Ferrari 599 GTB HGTE: Why The Market Can't Ignore This V12 Super GT Much Longer

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Today I'm driving the Ferrari 599 GTB HGTE - a fabulous car that was well received when new, but today is seen as one of the worst Ferraris you can buy. I challenge this assesment, and talk about why I think the market has been undervaluing this epic V12.
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[@alimuzhussain8394]

surprised no one talks about 575, its the true forgotten Ferrari

[@JayEmmOnCars]

@alimuzhussain8394 video coming soon

[@alimuzhussain8394]

Can’t wait I’m glued to your channel! ☺️

[@LAVAracing]

The CAT has stolen the show. Those years with cars were special. Still some old school vibe with the modern usability. Not too electronic not too isolated. Amazing.

[@maloo-tm2ub]

Agreed

[@jonathanohagan1349]

I was gonna say that

[@bg-jo7kj]

the cat's also on the same diet as Jayemm

[@WhiteMouse77]

@@bg-jo7kj ...indeed....spot on! They have such a wide living standard! How much is that? 335/30 ZR20?

[@jumboMW3]

That boiiii thickkk

[@kaposvaribando1277]

1:16 oh lawd he comin

[@kacperstick]

kot

[@F8Tributo]

I didnt even notice the cat, until you pointed it out! Looks like it's been eating processed commercial cat food. Makes for a fat kitty!

[@Alex-iu8xx]

Very nice chonker

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Crazy thing is we feed him the same stuff as Florence, who is tiny. I think Sam supplements his diet

[@acecarrera1]

Insert 2001: A Space Odyssey theme.

[@younf]

We want the next video to be about the white Purrari we saw at the beginning of this one !

[@peterknight7880]

It hasn't been featured because it's one of Jay's more perplexing purchases. On the plus side it's very well trimmed. However, the handling is unpredictable, it only sounds good immediately after a service, and the economy is terrible.

[@dadcars]

Boring football or 26 minutes of James driving an “affordable” V12 Ferrari… 🤷‍♂️ it was a no brainer 👏

[@peterknight7880]

What football?

[@effrumtheretardo]

Southgate out

[@the-boring-car-guy]

Normal football is boring tbh but this year has been another level

[@sveeny]

The 599 is such a huge step design wise from its predecessor. Not that the 550/575 isn‘t a very pretty car, it definitely is. But when the 599 came out it was such a spaceship, at the time it was unimaginable how there could ever be something that will replace it. It felt like the final Ferrari at the time. So modern and yet elegant. It still is.

[@RootBeerGMT]

The ass end is like a bus-a ghetto bus-just too big 🐽

[@g.w.customcreations3534]

I dunno, always thought the 599 looked a bit like it had been left too close to a radiator. 😂 And the pretend GTO was just daft. They've aged very well, granted, but at the time, a lot of folk I know would have rather had the 550.

[@JCDenton95]

@@g.w.customcreations3534your comment indicates a high probability of your own brain having been left too close to the radiator.

[@g.w.customcreations3534]

@@JCDenton95 awwww, is someone feeling hurty because we don't like the same car? 🙄🤣🤣

[@Scalarissa]

Recently bought a 599 GTB. Got in while I could. And loving it

[@jjll9244]

I’ve always seen these as the spiritual successor to the 612. Absolutely love the styling

[@jeffmaynard5642]

I owned a 2008 599 GTB for 4 years and put over 14,000 miles on it and it was bullet proof. I was a joy to own and enjoy. Purchased from a Ferrari Dealer with a 2 year warranty and never used it. In my opinion for the money it's one of the best GT cars one could ever hope to own... I also sold it for the same money I bought it for even after adding the milage...Great experience!

[@ApriliaCollector]

Yes it’s lovely with low mileage on the engine. Above 25.000km all stuff breaks down.

[@albertrobinson4539]

A prancing horse and a prowling cat on the driveway

[@JayEmmOnCars]

That is the mighty Sam

[@longtailgt]

I may be in the minority but I really like how the 599 looks! I never thought it looked ugly and in fact, as car designs all over the place get more and more weird, the simple, curvy and quite original design of the 599 looks even better. I'm also fond of it because one of the very first 1:24 scale models my parents bought me when I was a kid circa 2007/2008-ish was a Rosso Fiorano 599 GTB model kit from Maisto, which I still have and love. And as pointed out in the video, yes the 599 doesn't look that pretty in Rosso Corsa, but I think it looks sensational in Rosso Fiorano! This car was just made for dark shades!

[@uncleyoung1978]

Jayemm is totally correct, when these came out the journos adored them, they were a game changer with performance that still stands up today. Today they are not liked for whatever reason. Then you take the 964 911, absolutely hated for years and could be had for a pittance, journos despised them. Today they are absolutely silly money and everyone loves them. Fickle World. 599 is a super car bargain right now and so underrated

[@WhiteMouse77]

...not only cars have such development trajectory....even human characters and social archetypes are retrospectively appreciated for values overlooked before as something common....in the past the "home wife" women were understood as not too exciting regular kind, right? Ando today? Man are willing to pay with gold for getting traditional woman who doesn't want to "cut his male corners"...

[@welcomeghosts_uk]

This cat is CHONKY

[@JayEmmOnCars]

#Guilty

[@purple-porker-productions]

@@JayEmmOnCars Get him on a diet, fat cats don't live very long!

[@totalsubmition]

Well fed cat Jay. Just like you.

[@johnnyboy1586]

You beat me to it😊

[@JayEmmOnCars]

He was normal size and then we left him with my grandmother for two weeks and then he came back even bigger than that!

[@wallyr.7854]

@@JayEmmOnCarsI gotta know, what’s the cat’s name 😂?

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Samwise

[@wallyr.7854]

@@JayEmmOnCars Samwise, I LOVE IT 🤣now just add the “Gamgee” 😸

[@marram101]

"It's like they were halfway through the job, and then went home" Sounds very Italian.

[@WhiteMouse77]

...not only Italian.... inside Lotus and even McLaren you can find construction and assembly wonders making you presuming the same.... and French or American cars? .... Ask any mechanic...not worth just mentioning that...

[@nicolaprincipato]

How many Italians do you know? Why is Ferrari ITALIAN?

[@darrensurrey]

You talk about someone paying half a million quid for a car, and then a fat cat strolls by. :D

[@MidLoafCrisis]

It's the Cat that strokes Blofeld!

[@slaphead90]

That is one absolute unit of a feline.

[@robinchiang6252]

Thank you. This is a most informative review of the 599GTB HGTE I have encountered. This car looks great in black (I'm not a fan of black, but this one looks better to me than red and especially black over red). Unlike JayEmm, when the 599 was introduced I was amazed by the back end and thought it was brilliant--a fully glazed panopticon canopy partly shaded and compositionally mitigated by aerodynamic (functional!) buttresses. It made so much sense (as though this is what the Dino 206/246 GT attempted) but had never been accomplished before. I appreciate learning from JayEmm that this car is bigger than the 812 (that looks huge to me) because I'm a Colin Chapman fan, but this episode convinces me that it's worth consideration.

[@madhukarjonathanminj2772]

I like it's rear end as well, goes to show how subjective beauty is

[@F8Tributo]

The 599 was the first Ferrari that came into my perception about Ferrari, drew me into the brand. I think it's epically beautiful!

[@SicSemperBeats]

Same, I thought it was gorgeous

[@deepwebintel]

Fun fact, the later 599s use GMs (Now owned by Bejing West Industries) MagnaRide suspension system. GM sold it in the recession to save themselves before the bailout.

[@stu2418]

Interesting. Do they regularly fail prematurely on the 599 like they do on the R8?

[@xx-----------xx873]

@@stu2418 It's a Ferrari boss what do you think

[@stu2418]

@@xx-----------xx873 No idea. I guess they must be a different design as the Audi ones were originally made by Delphi and were later bought by BWI or vice versa. They have a tendency to fail around the 25-30k mile mark.

[@nagylevi3827]

Now here's a car that I would daily to the end of my life. It looks civilized, sensible, usable and I like it. Love the video as well, of course. Great work.

[@THECarCarCompany]

1:15 CHONKY BOI

[@joeracer302]

People who leave old tires on their sportscar really make me question why they own the car at all. It’s obvious they don’t give a shit how it drives as long as it’s running and can get them to the local hang out spot, so they can be seen, which is on brand for Ferrari owners.

[@CR71243]

The sound of the 599 is epic!

[@anthonyhowells4560]

Please can you a video on the manual conversion?

[@paulm6397]

I bought a 2007 599 about 12 or 13 years ago. Luckily from a Ferrari main dealer. £90k ish, phenomenal car but in 18 months it spent about 10 months in the garage being repaired under warranty. Every month something went wrong, normally electrical faults but one day the brakes failed. A total disaster of a car

[@WhiteMouse77]

....it really explains something about Ferrari brand itself.... I have never read something similar about Audi R8 or even Lamborghini...and it has very good reason...

[@Decenity]

@@WhiteMouse77 the r8 doesnt have a good history too...

[@billpower835]

sorry to hear that. converted mine to manual last year and have put about 8,000 trouble free miles on it.

[@simon5066]

@@billpower835may I ask how much the conversion costs and if you feel it’s worth it - I have seen mixed reviews

[@billpower835]

@@simon5066 about 40k parts and labor and absolutely worth it, i don't know any 599 EAG conversion owners who regret it.

[@elizabethcherry920]

I had to take a second look, and I noticed the kitty left his mark on the left rear tire. Great intro- Fat Cat meets Ferrari . The best video so far

[@ManfredEWhite]

Great presentation of affordable "Super Cars." Nice video.

[@titanbladeworks]

A manual 599 is the dream!

[@silhouette300]

actually not good to drive)

[@simon5066]

@@silhouette300have you driven one? What’s not so good?

[@silhouette300]

@@simon5066 my friend was on media presentation of 599 and drove one and was disappointed along with other journalists) doesn't fit well to that v12, that's why they sold sow low amount of manual cars, as I remember it's not refine and precocious like it should be because of the bad linkage and ratios, swaped manual cars are much better.

[@idealstandard3692]

@@silhouette300 having converted mine from F1 to manual, I confirm it's better as F1

[@nistock]

I was fortunate to race a 599 at Fiorano in 2007, over a couple of days. A simply magnificent machine. One of the best experiences in my long life.

[@deanchur]

Now when someone says you should buy a Jaguar you can tell them you've already got a cat in the driveway.

[@MM-xr6tz]

I remember a Ferrari test driver who took me out in an F12 saying that the 599 went from rapid under steer to over steer faster than anything else he'd ever driven. Forget anything with vigour in the wet, it will end up very badly. So I bought one 😂 P.s Get that bloody drive jet washed.

[@Spenny909]

Very enjoyable vid, James. The 599 is a pretty car, more so when not in red. Where were these roads? They look epic!

[@deaks25]

It baffles me that the 599 has become a 'forgotten' car when not so long ago it utter decimated every car that challenged it. The 599 was THE benchmark for the super GTs. I think it's a devastatingly beautiful car as well (I like the buttresses to be honest). In fact, I remember getting bored of the 599 because it was so infuriatingly good.

[@The-Sea-Dragon-1977]

I remember looking at these when they first came out and I adored the flying buttress design. (NB: The Jaguar XJ-S has a butteress, a flying butteress in architecture is one that has a hollowed out section). Great looking car and I would definately have one, Grigio Titanio with Burgandy leather please.

[@nikcertified8778]

i always loved the styling TBH. bought a grigio silverstone 599 this summer. what a machine and yes must be respected.

[@4pevans]

So glad it's getting the manual conversion!

[@kubek555]

trolling cat stole the scene lol

[@jamiespinks3657]

There is a manual conversion kit available for the 599, Tyler Hoover of Hoovies Garage KZbin channel had the conversion done on his 599.

[@Unimatrix69]

The company that did the conversion went bust, lots of legal action. Contact Dan from Normal Guy Supercar about conversions.

[@RS-ck6cs]

My favourite car youtuber talking about my favourite car : the 599. Thanks James !

[@18000rpm]

In manual mode it should only shift down to prevent stalling.

[@CR71243]

Going back to watch your 612 review now.

[@peteromara642]

Totally agree. If i win the lotto tonight....

[@kevincockburn7805]

Hoovie of hoovies garage has done the manaul swap onnhis 599. Seems to have worked out well.

[@brogenville]

He’s done a manual swap, but it’s far from correct.

[@Anouyz]

Personally I think the buttresses are the stand out feature on this car, immediately brought my mind to gothic architecture. Its like a nod to the past glory of europe through the current top of design and grandeur.

[@wiryantirta]

something about a black 599 that hits different than the V12 Ferraris that came before and after. You don't know how much time I've wasted staring at ISSIMI's listing for a black 599. Black over tan interior would be absolutely sublime.

[@rushyg1006]

great video man!!!!!!!!!!

[@Sportscarbible]

Thank You for the Videos as always James. Tell the owner to put some F12 sounding like exauste too plz. Cheers mate !

[@andresguerin7162]

A shop in US has been swapping manuals into these cars for a while now. It costs f355 money though!

[@TheMadmostin]

Great review. Very enjoyable

[@iainmoore7275]

Hey Jay. You need to see both 599's at DDE getting slayed regularly. Both manual swapped and e brake for drifting

[@JDM304]

Great video, thanks!

[@ecc206]

Road Suggestion: Nant Y Garth Pass, horse shoe pass to Llangollen

[@Mylough1]

Not to be silly. But the trees in the film at the 25th minute were real beauts.

[@joeunderwood3693]

I know someone who owned one of these when they were new and the top speed was actually utilised on a road

[@dwoolwichpoly9086]

May I know what speedometer speed it reached?

[@joeunderwood3693]

@@dwoolwichpoly9086 201 allegedly - Not in the UK but definitely doable

[@manuocio]

With manual is a dream car. I like this shape

[@johnshaw359]

The main thing is to keep a stiff upper lip as the person at the desk reads you the repair bill, after all you are loaded with cash aren't you. I don't see these cars as things you have to scrabble- around-behind-the-sofa in order to afford whatever variant and revision. The worst thing is they are generally riddled with build quality related issues.

[@xx-----------xx873]

I've heard about £3-5k a year for a standard Ferrari, about the average upper middle class holiday bill. I think you need to work a bit harder and stop being so bitter.

[@baheh1801]

I thought I saw a rugby ball with legs my word that's a chunky kitty.

[@mattlambourne]

I feel like I'm the only one who thinks the 599 looks better than the F12

[@spiller212]

Yes, you are 😂

[@rinhato8453]

You're not, the 599 GTO is one of my favourite Ferraris.

[@KaKa-f7n]

Yes

[@presidentNMK]

No, you're not. I like them both, but in the looks department the 599 is just perfect in my eyes.

[@Jayboy1983]

I believe there are 3 of you in the world

[@Mike-sg9tl]

Eric Clacton's 1 owner 2008 599 was up for £79k a few years back with only 8k on the clock. I really regret not buying that car. These have shot up in price since

[@jongmans38]

Oh, the music!

[@akadanielmaia]

Is the gas consumption really bad as Clarkson and Chris Harris said?

[@madhukarjonathanminj2772]

it' an almost 20 year old Ferrari V12, so it definitely might be really bad

[@dBsdecibels]

Cat: OH LAWD HE COMIN'!

[@barfmeister8509]

This car gives me serious wood ! I can see the enthusiasm for this car in the slight smirk on ya face 😂 The 599 a particular favourite of mine and heaven knows if the GTO can live upto it’s badge…..

[@tareknassar3045]

The 599 will skyrocket in price, in the future. It's inevitable... beautiful car

[@alimuzhussain8394]

No they won’t Too many made!

[@davidgouyaie8027]

will like a review of that white jaguar in the parkway 😮😊.

[@R-Tap]

If I could only ever have one Ferrari then this is on the very short list. Aging so well.

[@GM-fh5jp]

Fascinating. I hope he can make it work too. Wonder which gearbox he is going to use?

[@jonathanohagan1349]

Saw Cat, liked!!!

[@analogdriven]

I was thinking damn that looks so much bigger than the old model next to it. Then on cue, a chunky ass cat waltzes by it.

[@CR71243]

That 599 screams! 🚀💪🚀💪

[@JelloTypeR]

I prefer the 612 Scagliletti over the 599 but I wouldn’t say no to either in grigio metallic with a tan/black/ interior with those Recaros. Perfection!

[@huyaha]

Hey jay thanks for your awesome info as always! i was wondering what you would choose out of 599 gtb or aston vanquish 2014 model ?

[@richardpatton2502]

FYI: everything you own belongs to your cat. You’re just borrowing it 😂 That’s just how things are All the best to everyone

[@uptone12111]

I just love this carthat's one of my favorite ferraris

[@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek]

You Already Have The Perfect Pair!!!!

[@djeroctx]

@1:20 oh lawd he comin

[@eric-wb7gj]

TY 🙏🙏

[@ThexMJT]

God I do love a 599.

[@michaelisaacson9735]

I've always loved the looks of the 599. Properly aggressive. But, yes, red or anything but black!

[@Jayboy1983]

I never used to like these style of old ferraris ,but this has actually made me think theyre quite a nice lookong thing

[@AutoAndChill]

1:19 - enter the chonk

[@JAY61ish]

Time to jet wash the drive James 😂😂😂

[@WhiteMouse77]

The thing is...If you have a friend who rides regular Aston DB9 (or even Rapid) and you borrow this 599GTE for a test drive week.... have a trip from Wienna to Oslo and back changing cars each other on the half way....I really wonder how much it would take you finding out that the lil extra special flavor of sportiness from Ferrari somehow doesn't justify itself in perspective of fact that GT cruiser is all about comfort and smooth speed transporting you effortlessly over a continent with propriate volume of luggages spending 90% of travel on a highway.... I mean this sharpened V12 creation is more like "wanna be track version" for shorter joyride which somehow spoils core purpose of pure GT...which 550 was....Maybe that's why most people ended up buying Maserati Quattroporte instead....

[@alimuzhussain8394]

You make an interesting point

[@gnashsang]

Get ready for lots of trips to your Ferrari mechanic. This model is has plenty of issues as it ages. I have a friend that’s the second owner of one, and every time we have a FCA function he’s absent because it’s in the shop. The only function that he’s attended in the last year was at the local Ferrari dealership on “met the techs” breakfast event, to which he pulled the car literally into, in order for them to look at for another on going problem.

[@foz775]

The size of the cat 😂😂😂😂

[@minimead368]

1:15 Jesus Christ there’s a cat. That cleared my exhaust pipe 😂

[@MrGpsjim]

Got the standard gtb, brilliant car - quite practical, stupidly fast, and I love the looks. I don’t believe at road speeds any normal human could tell the difference with the HGTE kit!

[@stuffhappens5681]

The hope of buying and owning a depreciated “classic” supercar is being sunsetted by electrification. Doesn’t matter if hybrid or full EV. The added complexity and expense to source, install, or repair bespoke unobtainable batteries and circuits to keep them on the road will be so daunting it’ll be out of reach for owners with neither the money, time or patience to deal with it. Cars like the 599 that (apart from screens and ECU) are mostly mechanical and still heavy on the wallet to keep running properly are going to seem like a bargain to maintain. To own a used supercar in the future you’re going to have to go from mid to upper middle class to a 1%er. But how many 1%ers won’t just buy a new car instead?

[@amospizzey1]

I daily drove a 599 for about a year after a 458 and a 16M ( ea h one approx a year ) 599 beautifully built but for me big / heavy and not involving as a drivers car on the road ( I tracked the first 2 but not the 599 )

[@kebabaluba]

Do Ferrari 612 soon, it`s a bit forgotten 4 seated V12 Ferrari.

[@Mike-sg9tl]

Such a beautiful car. I love it.

[@carguy7627]

I always thought that these look like a Ferrari Supra (Mk4). I got excited when you said 70k pounds, I looked these up and they are double to triple that in the US.

[@bishopoftroy]

8:16 the dashboard looks just like a front of a Porsche 911 964.

[@keithjackson4985]

I like that! I think it looks fine.

[@4pevans]

Hi Florence!

[@elnoel1220]

Would love it if Ferrari could squeeze their NA V12 into a mid-engine car.

[@BPF80MCar-vi1pg]

Somebody put one in a 458

[@AndrewDobie]

You are singlehandedly responsible for the amount of time I spend browsing Pistonheads...! :D

[@DavidDatura]

I’m surprised to hear the 599 was bigger than the F12. It looks smaller to me 🤷‍♂️