6.5 Years WITH A CHEAP, CHINESE GRIZZLY MILL / DRILL !!! DID IT LAST, and WHAT WENT WRONG?!? REVIEW!

[@officialweldingfarmingarch2041]

JOIN OUR EXCLUSIVE PROJECT SUPPORT GROUP With WEEKLY GROUP CALLS For Coaching On Farm Equipment Repair, Welding & Metal Fabrication! Its An Affordable, And Easy Skill-Building Program With Only A 1 Month Minimum! Learn About The Program Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpPbqY1qoZ5_pLc Join The Project Support Group Here: www.patreon.com/OWFA/membership

[@1D10CRACY]

I bought one of these from Harbor Freight, about the same time. Harbor Freight doesn't carry it anymore, but I really like mine! I bought it for the same reason, I wanted a heavy duty drill press, and an occasional mill.

[@1pcfred]

I bought mine off Harbor Freight in the early 90s. It was a scratch and dent model so I got it for $800. They said it had a little rust but the real problem was the starter contacts in the motor were jacked up. So it wouldn't start. I fixed that. Just had to align them a bit with a pair of pliers.

[@miguelcastaneda7257]

Have an older version previous owner scrapped slides and added thrust bearings...got from guy cleans estate sales 100 bucks...pretended to bitch about price

[@Mitch3343]

I just bought the Central Machinery/Harbor freight version for $600 bucks yesterday. I'm excited to try it out.

[@ralphwatten2426]

My dad had one and it was great. He made a gear cutting indexer for it. My brother got it when dad died and it disappeared.

[@OwensGarage]

I try to stick to old American made machines when possible but I’ve had a number of Chinese ones that worked very well, except for the “black bull” drill press that the table broke off and I had to weld it back together... As far as Shars tooling, I have some and love it. Really good stuff. Thanks for putting videos up again, I actually did miss you when you left KZbin.

[@Rusty_ok]

I like the voice over on these older videos.

[@smarternu]

SPOT ON!

[@bruceang82]

You helped make my mind re:column it has the power, but can't hold set. That's all I really needed to know about a round column vertical mill, what a design flaw. 😮

[@luis-dv1et]

which milling collet chuck did you buy for it?

[@Dima-qg2rl]

Hi! What model is your grizzly?

[@georgedennison3338]

I bought the original, Taiwanese Jet-16 version of this mill this summer for $1500. Got an X-Y DRO & a small LCD Z DRO & a vise w/ it. The 1st thing I did was get an ER32 - R8 collet chuck because I have an ER32 on my small lathe & my work horse drill press, (1.5 hp industrial, gear drive motor runs at ~115 RPM & torque 'to infinity AND beyond). Battling the prob w/ it being a move the head, not the knee mill, I anchored the vertical gear to the post & if I screw up on height setup, I can move the head on non critical precision milling w/o a problem. Motorizing the Z w/ an old Milwaukie Hole Shooter drill motor helped, too. Got an effed up neck & upper back; hand cranking the mill head is no bueno. There IS a lot of machine tool snobbery, esp on the Internet. I would loved to have bought a Bridgeport or several of the other mills available at the time I bought this, but I just don't have the room. I don't need to make 'big chips', I'm not trying to maximize $/hr; I just need to mill things more quickly than my previous method(s) of some combination of router table/table saw/beam saw/drill press/files/torch/die grinder. The 2 belt drive is just screaming for it to be upgraded w/ a scavenged treadmill motor, not for more torque, but for the var speed of the DC motor. Treadmill motors are great, 2.0-3.5 hp & typically free. Find the right brand & the motor & power supply/controller are mounted on a steel rack; unbolt, mount it & plug it in. BUT, DC motors have no low RPM torque, that's why the 2 belt drive is perfect for them. Run the motor as fast as you can, then belt drive it down to the RPM range needed. I have 1 on my lathe, using a car alternator as the 'jack shaft', intermediate pulley & it's superb. Use the treadmill dash board & OEM power supply; it has auto-load compensation, (only big $ lathes have it), a magnetic kill switch, (have an emer? Swipe your hand at the dashboard & knock the mag off) & a circuit breaker On-Off switch, overload the motor & it trips it off. Overload the typical motor controller & it blows a fuse if you're lucky, kills the controller most of the time. Overall, I think a round column can be a fine solution if you don't need to max $/hr of income. It'll do everything you need a mill to do. Besides, the real cost is accessories & tooling; everyhting a guy builds or buys for an inexpensive round column, (starter) mill WILL work on a Bridgeport. Hell, I have been buying tooling & accessories for 5 yrs, when I ran across killer deals, as prep for buying a mill. Would have bought the mill 4 yrs ago, if not for cancer getting in the way; the effing nerve of it! LOL GeoD

[@David-hm9ic]

This is what I wanted to mention as well. My Jet-16 is an older one made in Japan. It locks down well. The only times it has swung on me is when I forgot to tighten the head after moving it. That isn't the machine's fault. With all of its shortcomings it has been a very good, reliable piece of equipment and beats the snot out of not having a mill. I knew it wasn't a "real mill" when I bought it because I had already owned a Taiwanese clone of a Bridgeport but it filled the gap for a while. I later bought an American Wells-Index full sized mill because I needed the vertical adjustment without losing the reference point.

[@rodbutler9864]

Outstanding

[@Dima-qg2rl]

hi! what is the model of your grizzly mill/drill?

[@joshy.4241]

Lance, do you think you're going to add something like a Bridgeport to the shop? I know you're a little bit limited on expansion at the current property.

[@braddavis4377]

Quick question; this does not have a angle adjustment? Thanks.

[@David-hm9ic]

No angle adjustment. The base to column joint can be shimmed for tramming if necessary but there is no tilting mechanism.

[@roybaker8111]

I have a Rong Fu RF30LH that i picked out of a scrap bin, found the head is cracked. Does anyone know if there would be a different brand that would be replacement, King, Grizzly etc

[@SteveC38]

Very Cool!

[@awfab3517]

It's a great drill press, that's how most drill presses should be made. As far as a mill it's just a gimmick for newbies thinking they bought a milling machine and will be making precision parts.

[@RustyInventions-wz6ir]

Just found your channel and subscribed. Very nice mill. I’m jealous

[@officialweldingfarmingarch2041]

MORE: For those who like the things which KZbin doesnt, join us on a free mobile app called Telegram, under "Tractor Hoarders Group Chat", in case we get cancelled on here! Also, check out our Patreon page to help support the channel: www.patreon.com/OWFA?fan_land... SOME OF MY FAVORITE TOOLS: KNIPEX German Made Pliers-Wrench: amzn.to/35fchvN OTC Slide-Hammer Kit: amzn.to/3p7mq4Q Carbide Burrs - An Affordable Set That’ll Last: amzn.to/2VsxTgH SUNGLASSES I WEAR - Quality at twice the price: amzn.to/2VegmbE Regular Safety Glasses that I Use: amzn.to/2ATXtEf Yes, these are affiliate links. Thanks for watching!!

[@miguelcastaneda7257]

On your side of country you can find these used fairly cheap and aa far as Chinese check images of all benchtop milling machine their all the same just the color of paint also you need to tram the head sounds like you haven't column the tube you referred too is solid steel

[@letscheckitout1985]

Did this dude lose his channel?

[@argentorangeok6224]

I've been eyeballing these. I honestly don't see why they couldn't do a decent job on light aluminum and brass and very light mild steel work.

[@luis-dv1et]

I bought her an MTB3 and it didn't fit

[@inventivemachinist8747]

Yeah everyone dogs the vice but then they won't shell out 700 for a Kurt mill vice

[@miguelcastaneda7257]

Yup 300 and ya get one a trainee who's chrased into it over and over

[@Greg_Gatsby]

No Regerts! 😏

[@kieranh2005]

Put a dro on it, its like cheating.

[@BattleTestedTools]

Holy shit is this chucky2000????

[@isaiahrojas7782]

Cheap…. Sure, I was thinking under a grand not 3grand 😂

[@David-hm9ic]

A new real mill made in the US is $20,000 base price.

[@33333yt]

I’m glad you more/less stopped posting videos

[@smoothbore4377]

When you've never experienced US made, tool-room quality machine tools, those import machines are "good enough" for repair and fabrication work.

[@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote]

They are all made in China. Atheist this model is made In an ISO factory. Don't know why everyone is talking shit. Bridgeport isn't a company anymore, southbend are now made in China, so is , precision Matthew's, jet, etc. Its just where they are made now. If you want to take a gamble on a beat up Bridgeport that was in a factory for 50 or 60yrs getting reached out for parts when someone needed a part for theirs at home. Good luck with that. I have a friend with this machine and it's actually a solid quality built mill especially for the price. People online like to run their mouths constantly but they only seem to do that in privacy behind their phones in fear of having their glass jaws shattered

[@1pcfred]

I never liked the depth stop on mine. So I made a stop for it that's a lot faster to adjust. Now I actually use it. But it isn't perfect. It's just faster to use. It looks like this i.imgur.com/sC7yQ9h.jpg It's not hard to make. Anyone with one of these mills should be able to make it. You have to file the corners of the threads away to get it to work right. If you make it you'll see what I mean. Drill and tap two blocks don't try to saw it in half.