6 Ways To Overcome Your E-Bike Speed Limiter!

[@jeffriley2502]

20 mph is still too slow in USA. Trails often would like a little more. Some of my unrestricted friends walk away in certain parts of our rides. Open areas that are safe. Common sense goes a long way.

[@space.youtube]

2:45 Almost EVERY car you can buy is capable of exceeding legal speed limits. In fact a car's (or motorbike) top speed has NO bearing on its road worthiness. So why should it be any different for an ebike? Unless you're arguing (by implication) that cars and motorbikes should be speed restricted to not exceed legal limits, your comparison actually works against you. It's a dumb rule that only adds confusion, inconsistency and unnecessary complexity to ebike regulation. Picture an ebike that's "assist restricted" travelling down a steep hill below the legal speed limit but above its assist restriction. In this case no rules are broken but the "assist restriction" law is made a mockery of. If an ebike (or any other bicycle) is not breaking the law going down hill, WHY should it be deemed to be breaking the law on a flat for travelling at the exact same speed?

[@Techandtoolsreviews]

Well said

[@spiritfox6066]

I agree 100% I've been looking up E-bikes as I'm really thinking about getting one, as I don't have a driver's license yet, and our only grocery closed in town. So I started looking into these as a way to get to the town over. I realized very quickly that the speed limitations, doesn't make any sense. If anything I've learned that a lot of people that get E-bikes, don't feel like their going fast enough for cars behind them.

[@Anglo-Brit]

Well said.

[@Cartsp70]

Exactly 👍🏾 How can prove it ? My ORBEA rise will do 15 mph at max assist but I’ve hit 35 mph on a downhill trail and it’s NOT de restricted AND I wasn’t pedalling so

[@johnf3326]

15.5 mph is ridiculously low. 20mph assist limit would be sensible. Even on my emtb on the flat I can get to 22-23 so why not have the assistance? Likewise if you have high assist like turbo you can move along the flat barely tickling the pedals, so why not have a throttle mode for emergencies (get you home with an injury) or even getting up those difficult areas where many pedal strikes could not be avoided. I can hit over 30 downhil and roadies can pedal at 30 on the road. Whats safer? Pedalling hell for leather side to side or having assist where you can progress more smoothly and pay attention to the traffic?

[@herrtomas6729]

Agree. I feel I’m battling beyond 15mph, where I ride my ordinary commute at about 18-20mph on the flat. Don’t need ridiculously higher limit, but 20 would be the sensible spot. Anyway where did 15.5 come from? Sounds like a kph conversion…

[@herrtomas6729]

Also look at gearing. My eBike is 4:1 max, yet road bikes are closer to 5:1 and can easily top 40mph. I can reach 35 on a gentle slope with my motor off - and I’m the wrong side of 60!

[@johnf3326]

@@herrtomas6729 Struth!

[@SoSimonSays]

You are choosing to ride on a surface designed for vehicles, you are in their domain, if you want to keep up with traffic put more effort in or pay the insurance for a higher wattage bike, i find most peoples attitudes to e bikes are just lazy cyclists, im a lycra wanka and an e bike rider, when i want exercise and speed i ride my road bike, if i want an effortless leisurely ride I grab my ebike. Now this is a different story for elderly and disabled as there is a legitimate reason for needing the assistance, but again if you want to go faster in a vehicles domain then you pay for insurance. So its not really about safety when it comes to speed, you are naked in the air with just a helmet vs a metal box, you choose to take the risk, just like anything in life, i mean id like it if the e bike went faster but that is just me being lazy

[@AleksandarGospic]

As I wrote several times, for me cool solution would be to have additional ROAD mode, in which limit would be like in the US (20mph/32kmh, although round 30kmh would still be fine with me), while rest of the modes can keep this 25kmh value. Of course, law should change to allow that, but from my experience I don't think it is necessary to have 32kmh limit in every mode and every situation cause saving battery and working more is also important. One can argue, well you can just turn off the assistance at 25kmh if that's you want, but that's not the same cause it's not practical and transition is way smoother when bike does it. Or maybe we could choose the limit for each mode in the settings menu, so if someone likes to go 30kmh in trail or eco, why not.

[@nucleardwarf1218]

As you guys are regularly smashing rides on e-bikes, why not show some realtime stats on wear and tear on your own bikes ie., how many miles you rode before the chain gave up, distances travelled, issues that presented themselves. This would give existing and potential users of e-mountain bikes a perspective of owning one.

[@resetbikes2265]

Being a UK/Euro user 32kph does seem like the perfect speed for most, it's a pity the EU/Gov doesn't follow suit. I'm guessing the chips and dongles probably don't sell outside of Europe because most people would be happy with the 32 km/h limit.

[@tsalesto]

In EU we can get 45 kph L1e-B class bikes. Perfect for commuting.

[@CarkeekW]

Brexit , so uk could change to 32 ?

[@MHH3180]

@@tsalesto isn't it amazing what people will risk just to avoid such a tiny expense and some paperwork?

[@tsalesto]

@@MHH3180 Yes, in deed it is.

[@jamesemery1]

@@MHH3180 @Timo Salesto It's not just paperwork, you need a cbt test and insurance and then it cannot be ridden any where but on the road as it's classed as a moped in the UK , which some people cannot afford to do or afford to buy another bike to ride on trails or cycle paths etc

[@theclanmeikle6135]

I have a single speed /fixie flip flop road bike. I use it to commute to work. I bought a front wheel kit and large 624 wh battery. Easy to install and superb for the hills. I find myself regularly doing 40 - 50 kmph at between 90 and 100 rpm. The assist cuts out at 27.5 kmph. I could easily do well over 100 miles on one charge. I look forward to hills now. I think using a fixed gear bike has been helpful to consistently beat the speed limiter. 46 tooth chain ring and 16 tooth cog with 700c wheels is a good selection for the hills in my area of Scotland 😊

[@jeffp5418]

Volspeed 4 on my Bosch. You plug it in, put the motor cover back on and you now can go up to 28mph. No error codes, no pressing buttons to set etc. Its amazing and how the bikes should come stock. Now when you're running up to a big grass table top in a park you don't have motor shut off right before the jump, same goes for any biggers jumps, it is downright dangerous to have a 53 pound bike of dead weight right before a jump, I couldn't even imagine it shutting off at 15mph. Remember this has NOTHING to do with the motor or battery, the only reason was the nanny state Karens who felt that was a good limit, well f.....k them. Do you need over 20mph in regular single track or if you don't do bigger jumps? maybe not, but would be nice to ride to the trail head a bit faster.

[@len9483]

Well said.

[@JohnSmith-qt7ul]

20 is way too slow

[@scottjackson9335]

What is a volspeed4 and where do I get one?

[@jeffp5418]

@scottjackson9335 chip that allows you to get rid of the bullshit limiter that is pre set to 19.5. That limiter is dangerous when riding on streets and doing big jumps as the motor shuts off and you have a 55 pound tank. You can get them from Two Wheels Empire

[@tomquimby8669]

Since your group of channels ignore the S-Pedelec options available. it is mainly German channels that review those. The EU has better integration into the transport system by realizing E bikes are not Mopeds and changing the laws to allow for Ebike helmets rated to the Dutch safety standard and not requiring a non breathable motorcycle helmet like the UK. So it is quite reasonable that the available ebikes are being derestricted so that comfortable full suspension rides can be had on the way to work over all the pot holes. Dutch statistics have realized that most people who ride unrestricted ebikes travel at about 35kph. Since roadies normally exceed these speeds with ease where are the calls for those speedsters to have tax and insurance?

[@MrJoelDavies]

Exactly. I find it easy to get near the top end on my derestricted ebike without the assist. It just takes longer to get there without the motor. Where is the line drawn I always wonder. I’m rarely overtaken by the average spandex warrior these days now, but they can still keep up. I’ve even had some ask to draft me while getting their best Strava “KOM” around my local town haha

[@MHH3180]

Read Joel's reply. Any reasonable person can see that he makes the point for restrictions. First we complain about The Lycra Lads and they are a danger, then we talk about them not being able to keep up! I agree, motorcycle helmets on a bike that can't even reach 72kph is rediculous, but riding in a bike lane or on a MUP or tearing up a mountain trail above 25kph is just plain wrong!

[@ryanbell7810]

Very very unhelpful!

[@carlmederozemtb]

I was on a ride last week and a Lycra wearing roadie flew past me as if I was a kid on a bmx bike, wow I am blown away by how fast they can go

[@johnmorrison27]

I’ve had two e bikes now, both de restricted by the supplying dealer transformed the bike on those long flat boring fire roads 👍

[@johnmorrison27]

@@Neil.C57510 No it’s absolutely fine

[@MR....T]

Estimated guess, I'd say at least 7 out of 10 are derestricted after purchase to unleash the full potential.

[@anttiharing]

As they should

[@jamesemery1]

more like 9/10 lol

[@jermainebailey6950]

Can I make my thok ap8 derestricted ?

[@andersonsridebikes]

The Kenevo SL with a 20mph/32kph limiter is perfect. The terrain that I ride, combined with the low friction generated by the motor, makes a derestictor fairly useless.

[@matthewlaw8268]

20mph would be fine, it’s 15.5mph in the UK.

[@likeher9]

Not again? 32km/h is the answer, come on guys, you know it, we know it, and even next doors cat knows it!

[@Kaibestmoments123]

Europe should have 32 too

[@davefreeman9347]

@@Kaibestmoments123agreed

[@gideonmuteti1524]

NO LIMIT is the answer

[@Sanesaint1]

My display goes to 45 km 500 watt but only goes 22 mph

[@marcopaganotto9125]

Jeezus, someone who speaks the truth 👌✌️

[@Bazza1968]

When I was 17 I bought a new Yamaha RD125LC, and the stupid restrictions that took learners from 250cc now had a 12bhp/125cc limit. It struggled at 60-65, gutless, dodgy on duals etc....I fitted a Micron (NOT Omicron) exhaust, K&N filter kit and suddenly whoosh.... closer to 20bhp and it was a fun, safer, rocket that could do 90mph..... E-bike restrictors need to be upped to 32kmph, or just done away with, they are awful things (especially with the Gen3 Bosch and the 2.5 gear box, hit the limit and you think it's packed in...)

[@bobhoward6985]

Speedi by NLS Components in NZ. Raises limiter to 30mph without voiding warranty 👍

[@nlscomponents]

Thanks Bob! Glad you're enjoying it 🤙🏻

[@SubmarinersDive]

Derestricted. Most places here in the US do not have the bicycle police to check if you are having too much fun.

[@MHH3180]

And now we know another that is getting us kicked off the trails, MUP's and out of bike lanes.

[@rvnmedic2709]

I want to thank the EMBN staff for the beautiful MUC-OFF package I won in the contest. I was overwhelmed at the full kit plus refills. Thanks again. Have a wonderful New Year.

[@embn]

Great to hear that Bruce! Do you have a squeaky clean bike now? - Hope you have a good new year!

[@cilldaracyclist2822]

I have the fiido m1 pro, it's full assist is 21kmh and it drags when ya go above that - switch it off and I can go a few kmh faster with leg power....leave the battery for hills or the cycle home when I'm more tired 👍

[@jamesemery1]

A road bike would be smashed to pieces on the roads near me. I fitted a BBSHD, no longer a problem in terms of beating the limiter

[@BelviGER]

My bikes are used 80% of the time on closed private property and I ride emtb instead of a roadbike just for longevity and not feeling like I'm constantly abusing the bike when I ride over rougher terrain. I also ride about 60km on a good day, and that's mainly in a straight line I dont mind fitting a dongle to the bike that derestricts it, for all i care make it glow red so the police sees it if infit it on road, but the idea that I need to contact bosch so they unlock my bike after three times of them noticing me riding quicker than they allow on streets is ridiculous enough that I decided to not to buy any bike with a restricted motor And it really sucks, I'd like to go to a local shop and buy some nice of the shelf bike, have normal order times, do stuff for the local economy. But now I order frames and motors from China and at most I buy some forks and stuff locally

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

Damn that's dystopian af, I didn't know that was a thing. Same thing is being instituted with cars too. No more hiding from the repo man, now they'll just shut it down remotely

[@mindy_cycling]

Happy New Year!😊😊

[@sgray2424]

I've two sets of wheels. Street I've the Hookworms by Maxxis and trails I've butcher & Eliminator. 36t chainring.

[@Moonez90]

You pay £5000 plus for a emtb only to be over took by a £300 electic scooter .. the limiter ruins the natural riding experience off what the bike should feel like ... a normal mtb in lowest high gear will be faster just because there not restricted . They need to move the limiter up this really stops the fun .. I actually regret getting mine for the price I payed . I should of got a stealth bomber b52 instead.

[@brianrosie1762]

check your settings for an unlocked wheel size setting, if you minimize it your bike will unwittingly go faster

[@johnpitre1295]

Hiboy P6 26" x 4" 750 watt 48v Fatty....28 mph stock....How fast unlocked ? 🔐

[@Breen7831]

so i have a Turbo Tero 3.0 Step-Through and i used it quite a lot and i am interested to buy a chip, ik were to buy it and everything but i have a 3 questions. 1.i heard a lot of roumers that it ruins the battery and the motor? is that right? 2.and how fast does it go if the max limit before was 25km/h? 3. how do the modes work? because i wont allways need to go really fast and sometimes 25km/h is fine for eg. mountain bikeing but if i need to go fast like 40km/h if im on the road what mode do i change it? is it like eco and trail is like normal but turbo is uncapped?

[@ddsgardening7437]

Nice usefull info Chris, and a happy new year to you and your family, looking forward to watching your show

[@todddegiovanni206]

Derestrict? Fines?…maybe. Imprisonment?….I don’t think so Chris

[@fadhilseptiawan2476]

When will this item be in stock I am trying to receive within the next couple weeks.

[@powertapping]

I’ve rarely been in position of wanting to go faster than the motor lets me. There’s no advantage going uphill faster as my transfers are usually steep technical and rocky. My friends usually wait for me on the DH as they are just better riders than I. I’m usually seconds behind so no big deal. So it’s a non issue here in the mountains of Lake Tahoe.

[@MHH3180]

So true, besides, e-bike motors anywhere near U.S. legal (including the illegal BBSHD 1K Watt) don't climb but a very tiny bit faster. My buddy's 750 watt BBSO2 is almost imperceptibly a stringer climber than a 250 watt Ananda.

[@resetbikes2265]

It depends how and where you ride, if you're on steep dh trails I agree but if the trails you ride don't have a steep gradient or are flat it's actually much harder work to keep the bike at the right speed to clear jumps etc on the ebike especially on trail centres. I'm considering going back to lower powered EP8 rs to get less drag in the system.

[@Z_question]

Am I missing something. My 1500w 48v rear hub with 52v battery cruses at 42mph all day long down hill up to 48mph. Only concern is on my bike speed wobbles but only at 44 mph below or above 44mph smooth ride. Not sure why that is.

[@Goggleberry123]

it's the bikes resonance sweet spot vibration travels through the frame not all bike or frames helicopters sometime fall to pieces two or three feet of the ground because of it😀 as you found a bit slower or faster cancels it out

[@SimonBauer7]

1:41 those days where never there because the ebike i own has a yamaha motor in it which even back in the ancor days as you call them went from assist to non assist smoothly. it was just more advanced and cheaper than boschs offering back then

[@boulderghost4457]

I consistently ride above 45kph on my analog bike on trails where e-bikes are prohibited. I look ahead and neither I or my friends have run over hikers on the trail ever. There is no rational reason to restrict ebike speeds other than bruised egos or motor vehicle tax interest. Rules and legislation have stifled freedom and destroyed the spirit of liberty.

[@juzmal1]

I ride a Mahle powered road bike. It’s restricted to 25km but there’s no drag over that, so I ride 90% of my road ride at around 33km/hr under pedal with no assist.. do these centre mounted motors work the same way or do you actually get resistance above 25km/hr…? If you do why? Can’t these motors free wheel or cut out with at least close to zero resistance over 25km….??

[@877cms]

Where was this filmed? Looks nice 👍

[@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v]

I use mine for both commuting and trails and shifting to keep her in the sweet spot is key. I have 45-10 12speed xt cassette on a 2020 stance E2. Find that I use the 10 mostly downs hill and on occasion smooth flats. I wondering if the new 2022 Reign with 15 more newton meters is going to pass that speed limiter wall easier or not as it will be more off rode oriented? I find my self peddling just as much on the road as a regular bike or even more just going faster. On the trail I have to remind my self just use the flow and peddle position at times.

[@miguelroberts8457]

i tricked my limiter on my Bosch 400 power pack bike and I think it killed my battery young...does anyone know if tricking the limiter does shorten the life of the battery??

[@brokenmarbles70]

So what is the program or code to overcome the limiter?

[@Sanesaint1]

To white or blue wires on controller i heard is the limit wires check to see if you have that kind of bike they said if you disconnect them your all set

[@paddymelon5549]

Funnily enough Australia also has a 25kmh limit. Right next door in New Zealand though I think it’s 32kmh

[@matthewjeanes4979]

I was thinking of getting a speed box, what’s people’s thoughts? Yes, I know they’re illegal on the roads btw, it’s experience I’m after?

[@calvintanner7897]

What about upgrading the controllers LCD screen ?

[@JohnSmith-qt7ul]

Thats what I was thinking

[@calvintanner7897]

@@JohnSmith-qt7ul The stock battery max speed is 50km at 32mph, but the extended range battery starts from 50km, and it's max is 90km which starts from 32mph, and possibly ends at 56 - 60 mph ( I'm not sure ), but I'm trying to figure out how many times do I need to ride to get it's maximum km per hour whether if I'm using the electric system or just by peddling the bike.

[@marcopaganotto9125]

What I meant by dangerous is that when you need to pull out quickly and the limiter suddenly slams on, it could easily end up with you getting smashed off your bike. Why the hell can't they just stop motor assistance rather than slamming the brakes on?

[@sweatyatoms7719]

I fixed this by putting a BBSHD on my Specialized Epic, much better.

[@JoLe1991]

that motor also puts out a bit more than twice the mechanical power of a typical emtb motor. full suspension bikes are always a hassle to mount a sufficiently large battery onto...

[@James-rf2ln]

The Chinese give you a nice 250w sticker to place over your 750w motor too so it's fully road legal

[@Todd66]

@@JoLe1991 you are not wrong. Setting up my battery has been the biggest obstacle. My triangle is not big enough to mount a battery due to my rear shock and finding a rack that works with full suspension has proven to be next to impossible. So I frankensteined two racks into one in order to meet my needs and work around my triangle issue. I’ve managed to make something work, but the rack cannot handle off roading. For off roading I put my battery into a backpack and I ditch my custom battery rack.

[@JoLe1991]

@@Todd66 the only way to make a large enough battery pack is to weld a box with a U trough in the middle that fits around the downtube, against which it can be clamped with some rubber between. think at a cross section like the arc de triomphe. then fill that case with about 1000Wh worth of cells for the BBSHD, as drawing much more than 1C from high capacity cells will prematurely ruin them The BBSHD can pull 30A continuous, that yields on average almost 1500W power draw with a 14S pack.

[@JoLe1991]

@@James-rf2ln i've got plenty of these stickers 😝

[@ThatBretGuy]

Has no-one noticed the bike? - it looks like a Turbo Levo SL, but the shock is low mount. Is this a preview of the 2022 model or is it something else?

[@Sanesaint1]

I seen a video he said set all levels on high on display does it i still haven't tried

[@Crypter]

What’s the model of the bike that he’s using?

[@richardevans9465]

Click bait title, nothing on how to overcome your E bike speed limiter. Prat

[@andrewbird9938]

Is it possible to get bosch gen 4 restriction raised to 32 kph here in the UK

[@embn]

Not as far as we're aware!

[@drewjonespdx]

oh so you re gonna lecture those who de restrict!

[@scottjackson9335]

I am illiterate to how to go about increasing my Bosch speed limiter. Can you educate me on that please

[@Chris-tc2ms]

Y

[@anttiharing]

No police will ever have a go on your bike to see if it’s restricted or not. Just chip and rip it, it’s really not that deep.

[@andrewpeat530]

For mountain biking 25 kph assisted is fast enough when you consider we are sharing the trails with a verity of other users and imagine after a few serious collisions with walkers etc emtbs being banned from public access areas, where would we ride, it’s a compromise well worth the access to thousands of miles of trails . Road on the other hand speeds of up to 25-30 mph would have positive safety benefits keeping up with traffic in urban areas being less of an obstruction on our roads, with the caveat of a short mandatory basic training course🤔

[@JacobBen94]

Anyone know how to do a carrea subway e 2.0 ? If possible ?

[@thim8009]

I don't get enough range as it is, don't think I would want to deristrict.

[@turbolevo8703]

Levociraptor is by far the best way.

[@lbktm]

Delimit every time. Waste of time video.

[@frankdromberg8297]

The 25 kmh is just a limit that is slightly to low 32 kmh is absolutely perfect it really pity that they made it just 25 kmh. We can do nothing about it just live with it unfortunately.

[@anttiharing]

No one will test your ebike if it is restricted or not. It’s not that deep.

[@tobyehillier]

I think a petition might be an idea. 32km is much more suited to MTB as that seems to be the speed we'd get up to on a regular bike. It's also a complete pain in the hole when a roadie casually cruises past you. As well as the fact you need to keep checking your cadence to keep within the limit. I don't see why there shouldn't be some kind of rider proficiency test, rather than pigeon holing everyone into the same restriction..... Technically, I've already got a full motorbike licence so I should be able derestrict my bike without any warranty issues. It's up to governments to legislate for tax and insurance....

[@resetbikes2265]

Totally agree.

[@curtrichardson8002]

Europe nanny state

[@seshelbow336]

You do realise the thing with rules is you can pick and choose which ones you want to stick to.....and which to ignore. I only

[@stuartmoseley]

Naturally we’d all like them to go quicker. I generally go quicker on my local trails with a normal MTB than the eBike. However in shared areas a 25kg ebike is really going to hurt someone in a collision. For the good of eMTB and MTB I’m happy for the limit, especially with limited land access and the progress in trying to increase/improve this for all.

[@MHH3180]

Yes!

[@Cartsp70]

So if you collided with someone at 55 Kph on a 25kg DH bike they wouldn’t get hurt because the DH bike is “ legal “ ? What a ridiculous comment .

[@vladbronnikov9813]

Also we need to ban fat people from downhill, just imagine how much more dangerous 95 kilos guy then 80 kilos 😂😂😂

[@techtitanuk5609]

Ok I'm good with laws but off road why must I have limits

[@corkystephan5073]

Well come get on with it

[@newsmonger77]

Trouble is, derestriction of the motor will only lead to tougher legislation and enforcement if too many people zoom around at 30 mph in town centres plus while riding like idiots.

[@wedavieglasgow1770]

I love shimano mostly but a lot Bosch motors can be derestricted from as little as a magnet behind the peddle arm an removal of its own magnet 😂

[@2musicSoundtrackfandom579]

First of all car is not a bike and an e-bike all it has is a tiny little battery with connecting cords and a few other few gears and stuff that allows it to go a little. If not more faster than other bikes but besides that it's not a vehicle. Especially In the same category as your place in it

[@corkystephan5073]

What the hell has the tires got to do with the speed limter

[@backyard3749]

False Title, common info. Tsk.

[@johnsedler3647]

Why is all these batteries blowing up and on fire let us know please

[@itscrazycocotime4518]

Old boy at 3:43 didn't look too pleased ! Bloody yobbos, back in my day you rode a bicycle with responsibility and respect for pedestrians, not careering down stairs uncontrollably and doing skids scaring the bloody life out of folk !😂

[@tobyehillier]

#1 Don't wear a huge skid lid.

[@jameswoods4656]

My class 3 hybrid goes plenty fast for me.

[@General_Crock]

Great ideas except for the work harder one. Sounds like my boss.

[@ronhammant7309]

I was expecting ways to overide the speed limitations of the eBike. The eBike is capable of much higher speeds than the default settings, most riders would need to pay significantly more loot to buy a faster bike when their current eBike is cable of the same speed that of the more expensive faster model. It's by law that the eMotor not be tampered with for higher speeds than regulations would allow. Look at the $millions being taken with these laws, but of course it's all about people's safety and not the money. Let's face it, no one is sensible enough to ride a bike at a higher speed than 25kph, we'd all fall over and die a horrible death. "Silly human race".

[@0_1_2]

3:05 America 🇺🇸 - fuck yeah

[@stockportfunny5130]

If your bike has walk assist mode you can hold that whilst peddling and it by passes the derestrict 😎 thank me later guys 👍🏻

[@jestrada123]

Is this for real, and does it actually work?

[@clintonsandusky8428]

Hey Chris & EMBN, Happy New Year!🎉 And in the new year, I hope you will retrain from content on "derestriction." I would suggest you focus in on "the right e-Bike for the job," depending on where a rider intends to ride. I say the above as more and more BLM officials, here in the U.S., are EVEN banning various classes (1, 2) of e-Bikes from Multi-Use Trails and Shared-Use Paths! All because of unsafe, illegal or irresponsible use! BAD FOR ALL OF US RESPONSIBLE RIDERS! Thanks & respectfully, CS The (USA) eBike Guy⚡(x2)

[@inferno7181]

"You have to comply with the law" Not if they don't catch you :^)

[@martythompson6509]

Just get on with it and move the sensor.

[@Tiggerinas]

What on earth are you suggesting by skinnier higher pressure tyres and other tips; the point is we're restricted to 15.5mph by the Bosch or whoever algorithm. As soon as you hit that speed you're pedalling against the motor, so no matter what you do won't make any difference. I added a Bafang motor and 1000whr battery to an old Dawes hybrid bike and it was a hoot, especially going past 'serious' group riders. That's now died so I've ordered a Cube Reaction hybrid 750 which will have plenty of torque but ludicrously slow top end...Volspeed, I think to the rescue.

[@nielgregory108]

You don't know physics. Skinnier tire = less resistance = faster speeds. The bikes computer will not show that (because it is being fooled) but your gps will.

[@neilelliston]

Chip it and set to 22mph. Ideal speed

[@MrJoelDavies]

22 is certainly quick enough. But I find it’s easy enough to pedal 20mph at full chat. So 25 is a nice bonus for me. Although mine will go to 30 at 100% effort/engine assist ratio. 30 is good for keeping the cars behind happy (if any). Whereas anything lower feels like crawling speed to them. I feel I would still feel the speed limiter kick in at 22 like I can feel it kicking in at 16mph on my dads limited bike, which is a horrible feeling and at times more exhausting than not having any assist at all. I think it also depends on where you ride it. Off road, yeh 22 is fine I suppose. Around town I would more like 25/30 to keep myself away from traffic.

[@bretrichdale1737]

What bike is that? - It looks like a Turbo Levo with the shock in the wrong place…. is this a prototype or what?

[@f87max30]

If you increase tire pressure a little bit you can do easily 35-40 kph on the flats with a little training. On the uphill sections 25 kph is fast enough. If that's not fast enough, Husqvarna and KTM have some very nice enduro motorbikes.

[@rahuldasmajumder5121]

Agreed. People forget what emtbs are for.

[@turbolevo8703]

I’ll pay you £500 if you can demonstrate to me you can pedal a heavy EMTB (restricted to 15.5mph) to 25mph on the flat. I don’t believe you. I’m an ex racer, have a threshold power of 350watts and I can’t do it. Are you a macho man with a loose association with the truth?

[@f87max30]

@@turbolevo8703 The Bosch CX 4 runs absolutely frictionfree above limiterspeed. The numbers I quoted were numbers I've seen on my display but I'm not sure if that was on completely flat terrain . As soon as the weather clears I go testing.

[@turbolevo8703]

@@f87max30 Peddling a heavy EMTB with high rolling resistance tyres to 25mph (which is a 100% human effort) I reckon takes north of 700 watts. If you are an exceptional athlete you might be able to manage it for a short while. The average weekend warrior has no chance. The average power output for the average rider is around 280-300watts and that will give you a speed of 17-18 mph.

[@islandaerial3414]

If you knew anything about Common Law, you'd know that licenses, 'laws' (anything written by an employee of a service corp ie: gov't) are meaningless to i man.

[@richardn6588]

i man a rasta

[@TedKidd]

Yep, matters sometimes for ride to and from the trailhead. Doesn't matter on the trails. Silly to limit these bikes.

[@General_Crock]

No it's not, there would be too many idiots tearing up trails and riding too fast in places where they shouldn't be. The laws punish the responsible unfairly but also protect folks from the idiots.

[@ponymoore6140]

I feel that 15.5 mph law in UK is dated and stupid. 20mph would be far more sensible.

[@djrimportsdanielrudd2794]

You obviously don’t ride many trails well enough. 16mph is a HUGe drag and pain off road Down any hill or down hill section

[@bergenson3681]

Buy an eride pro ss

[@nathanielbrice8725]

Nope, a road bike and Lycra won’t handle the jumps or black diamond runs

[@Zetler]

There’s a prison penalty for breaking your bike’s speed limiter? Where? 😆

[@jamesemery1]

in france big fine and or prison sentence

[@len9483]

@@jamesemery1 Elections have consequences ~ Dumbo Ears Oblammie. Only truthful thing he's ever said!

[@Sanesaint1]

They need to bring the price down same with cars it's a rip off i have to different kind of bikes

[@OktaFierce]

Risk imprisonment.. what a disgrace.

[@Jezdx667]

I'm looking at getting a whyte e-160 (with bosch e-motor i think) how easy is it to derestrict? I have private land I can use the bike on and would reallly love to have the derestricted option. I'm UK based. Due to injury I can no longer use a normal push bike but really don't want go down the road or light off road bike option.

[@jeffp5418]

Volspeed V4 plug and play, its amazing. You get 28mph out of the box.

[@gurdipaujla7939]

"HAVE" to comply with the law. Ok

[@evildeed90s]

i de restricted my bike lol

[@Karl-sq5ng]

Came for go faster info and got a lecture instead :/

[@marcopaganotto9125]

Please stop trying to convince us that limiters are OK. They're not and they are dangerous.

[@etienneboucher9510]

Are you kidding me ?! I ride more than 25km/h AVERAGE WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. These legal e-bikes are just pointless if they do not help above 25km/h ! I DO look for a way to UNLOCK this ecologic none sense: - same function - more heavy - hundreds of times more polluting

[@stephenseed5015]

You didn't help me out at all, smaller tires, bullshit

[@CarkeekW]

45 is ok on the road but not off road erm ok . I thought UK voted for brexit to get 32 , maybe it was other reasons ? One google away from sorting your limiter if you want 40 is the sweet spot where you don't notice it fading out and it still has some punch if you fall short of a bigger jump while not draining the battery stupid fast. Its people that need a limiter and judgment of where to use the full capability and its not on a shared single track. Before you go mental my country has no legal limits you only void wty which was not a problem for me p.s. the motor is still perfect after 1000s of km

[@jamesemery1]

no most of the votes to leave are from a racist stand point unfortunately

[@CarkeekW]

I'm not in Australia and yes I'm aware they went full restricted too , welcome to hop the ditch