$600 Super Clone SCARY Close to Rolex GMT Master II

[@HarrisonElmore]

Please ignore all the comments proclaiming how great any dealer of this stuff is. The comments here discussing a place to purchase is a bot. I’ve tried to remove comments, but KZbin only lets you do them one at a time, so I’ve spent several hours doing this, but I can’t police these indefinitely. I’ll spend a couple hours doing it and then the next day 50 will be posted in the span of 5 minutes. Thanks! I don’t suggest anyone buy any fake watches, especially based on a bot comment.

[@creedstump0662]

it’s sad how you spend your time making these videos and instead of getting feedback and regular comments, you just get spammed by these bots. i hope youtube does something about it

[@isaacs4050]

Is there any way to filter comments? If so just ban people from saying "swissarex"

[@isaacs4050]

@cionide if you're gonna be dumb you gotta be tough

[@HarrisonElmore]

@@isaacs4050 unfortunately no. There are no options other than remove or report each comment at a time

[@HarrisonElmore]

@@creedstump0662 Appreciate it and I ageee! fingers crossed!

[@TimothyDulhunty]

There are rumors that igrotum has the Rolex database of serial numbers and sells replicas with the same serial numbers as the originals

[@DorisSabati]

The attention to detail on Igrotum's replicas is incredible

[@NovaGurrola]

Good because a watch shouldn’t cost more than your car

[@PatriciaBroom]

igrotum replicas incredibly authentic

[@TerriBrown-ty8hw]

they are legit

[@IreenaGlover]

Same watch at a great price

[@RamonaEvans-jx3pt]

just like the real thing

[@stop5-ye4xm]

When you say super clone, it better be Swiss-made. Only Ziarex delivers that level of perfection.

[@hazwaz7166]

Ziarex is a scam site. Just incase you didn't realise these are spambot accounts.

[@macky181]

Lol this bot chat is hilarious

[@ImWagon]

fake site, upvoted by bots, careful fellas

[@MH-wm6df]

@PatriciaWilson-zy3prhaha nope

[@DavidGilesColorado]

Clearly whoever made this comment most likely is affiliated with Ziarex I smell a rat

[@Shakuntala-Shrikirti47803]

primerolexio has best rreeps

[@abnerrecalderuffinelli1405]

What page?

[@AshleyCooper-rv3vr]

I'll check that out, Heard wristova also is a no lesser game, They have some really cool super clones.

[@mbb1849]

You’re a breathe of fresh air in the watch community. You know your stuff but you’re not gatekeeping or acting over the top “upper echelon”. You admire the watches and talk about them simply. The right type of watch nerd 👌🏿

[@joelriva5424]

It also shows that maybe rolex watches and other brands don't need to be this expensive

[@Arvokm]

Yup. 60% air in prices just for rich dumb*sses who will pay anyways.

[@Mikael-jt1hk]

Ofcourse they dont. A rolex is 500 bucks. The rest of the 25 grand you pay is just because you like to get fucked from behind.

[@DanielE-oq1dt]

It’s a status symbol ultimately

[@nickmet123]

Chasing status is a sign of impoverished thinking

[@tyn6211]

They weren't until Japan mastered the quartz movement and started mass production of wristwatches, so the European brands moved up the status ladder. Same thing with German cars.

[@cesarlavarello8060]

so you're telling me unless I put me eye right on the finishing of the bezel you can hardly tell....LMAO that's pretty hilarious

[@Ciderdrinka]

I am a watchmaker here in the UK and I've been paid good sums of money to put genuine balance bridges on fake watches to make them look no different to reps, as well as rehaut polishing, repolishing movements, replacing plates etc on movements to make them look more real, it's fascinating.

[@skhanx]

Where is the best place in UK to get hold of a super clone and best replicas???

[@MarcoElkes]

yeah sure you can make it more believable but you cant make the rest of the finish on the movement or the rest of the watch be perfect. If you're spending so much to make a fake look real like even using some genuine parts then you really need to start questioning what you're doing because at the end of the day, it's still a fake.

[@artemiocortes8556]

I hope you're not denying service for those people. I have a VSF 116610ln replica . It's so spot on that genuine parts are interchangeable. I'm slowly buying used genuine parts and putting them in like tge dial, hands, crown, bezel. Eventually make my way to the bracelet and movment. Just takes time . Its a project for me

[@giovanni0261]

Contact?

[@ryanjofre]

So you work for frauds, scammers & criminals it what your saying? Bravo🇬🇧👏

[@charleskoerkel4312]

I'm going to be honest, I would rather have the super clone for $600 bucks and keep the $10,900 in my pocket from Rolex,

[@davidkaplan5517]

Do you realize that your $600 replica will break and become worthless while you’re $11,000 would turn into 17 overnight?

[@brotherandrew3393]

This clone is so dirty inside that it will need a service very soon. What do you think the watchmaker who has to do the service is going to tell you? For 600 bucks you can find some really fine watches and very good hommage watches worth the money.

[@charleskoerkel4312]

@@davidkaplan5517 So what you are saying is that every rolex you buy today you can sell it for a $6,000 dollar profit 24 hours later? Come on Dave if that was true nobody would have a job we would all be dealing in rolex watches, LOL, Its your lie i will sit back and let you tell it as i polish my $600 replica watch and keep my $11 grand in the bank, especially in this market.

[@davidkaplan5517]

@@charleskoerkel4312 I paid the full price and it was worth 23 to sell now it’s 17 so I get to enjoy it for free and unload it whenever I want.

[@charleskoerkel4312]

@@davidkaplan5517 Im just going by what you said, And if what you say is true, why dont you buy 10 watches a month and 24 hours later sell it for a 6 or $7000 dollar profit, Thats a possible profit of $70,000 a month correct? im just going by what you said?

[@ruken_52]

Although I was apprehensive, I decided to give swissarex a try after reading customer evaluations. Glad I did, too!

[@n3wt]

worst scam bot comments ever

[@Bulba_lagd]

The difference between a real and a fake watch is the person wearing it, yes if you see did caprio using a fake rolex, it automatically becomes real for the majority of people.

[@clumsydentist5576]

Chad "ochocinco" Johnson, is that you?

[@rw3078]

I have been wearing fakes for a number of years on a daily basis now. I bought two genuine rolex here in the UK and unfortunately it just isn’t safe to wear them in public, people have been stabbed for their watches. Mine sit in a safety deposit box at a bank, and I wear the fakes. If I get stopped for my watch I will simply hand over the fake and hopefully not become a victim or statistic!

[@cjack202003]

@@rw3078 So, let me get this correct...you will wear a fake Rolex with the possibility of getting stabbed over a fake Rolex? Here's a solution, don't even wear a fake Rolex either. Go out wrist free. People be funny saying they won't wear their real Rolex out, but will wear a fake Rolex out. What, you want people to think you have money? What's the point of wearing a fake Rolex? The fact that you have what is perceived to be a real Rolex on your wrist is going to bring attention anyway. You can avoid all that by not wearing a "Rolex" at all.

[@Oyun2024-g5x]

The timepieces of swissarex are of excellent quality. You wouldn't know they weren't the real deal.

[@Banita-Malashree280]

Mega-clone sellers like ziarex must be in jail because they sell watches with identical serial numbers as original watches, which is illegal.

[@LorraineNeal-cg7gy]

I hate mega-clone replica sellers.

[@RonnaBush]

criminals dont buy fake watches

[@AmeliaRouco]

I can't buy not even in dream☺

[@PaulinaMarti-cp2nn]

Top, manda o pix! 🇧🇷💸

[@ZarinaGonzalez-mp1rh]

I tried many, but those guys are no joke, they sell something that you cannot buy anywhere else.

[@mike1506tube]

"If I'm gonna have to look at a watch with a microscope to tell the difference between a $15000 watch and a $500 one; I am always going to buy the $500." 😎

[@jks1311]

exactly

[@FPJDK]

And be a criminal and risk getting a criminal record?

[@TimTellsTime]

I service and repair these replicas all the time. Cleaning the movement and using quality oil/grease makes a huge difference in the feel of winding and setting. Plus, they keep accurate time. The one you have is of good quality but there are better ones that are in the $1200 range which would be considered a super clone. You should get one of those and do the comparison.

[@robseibertgulfcoastrealest3243]

Would love to send mine over for your treatment.

[@Superdada]

How accurate are they? That’s what I always wonder. Aesthetically seems they get it right but can they keep +2-2 / day? If so, that’s mighty impressive

[@TimTellsTime]

@@Superdada Swiss clone movement with a service, absolutely.

[@sociaaljessie5431]

Correct, I trade watches and have handled a number of super clone pepsi and gmt2s. Without a trained watchmakers eye and tools u won't be able to tell the difference. Especially between the replicas from Clean factory with 3135 movement. That only begs a question whether the cost of a 10k watch is justified.

[@Superdada]

@@sociaaljessie5431 and think of those who paid 2x retail price for one. I suppose it begs the question of are rolex pieces artwork/jewelry or tools. There are many who can copy famous paintings of Rembrandt, Picasso, Monet... etc. But you still will end up with a copy. However, if we want to classify rolex as objects of function (tools), than ya, doesn't make any sense to pay 10k when 1k can do it.

[@LEORedSun]

Today's high end replicas are almost impossible to tell from the outside. In fact, in Asia, no one would believe you are wearing the real thing because there are so many clones out there.

[@patricj951]

So that means it's pretty safe to walk around with a true Rolex there? 😀

[@clark3830]

even the Chinese movements can run at 0-1 spd as the real deal. So why spend so much for the real deal if all you want is a great watch? Some today do not have the funds we have as well. Let them enjoy the design and move on, I say.

[@LEORedSun]

@@clark3830 I couldn't agree more. There is a difference between fakes and replicas. Fakes are cheaply made with a logo. Replicas are 1 to 1 copy of a genuine. It's like a same product being made by different manufacturer. Don't get me wrong. I love genuine watches' quality and craftmanship but they are just way overpriced.

[@Galaxy-jy5jh]

@@LEORedSun they ain’t over priced for long or short term investors. Look at retail prices to secondhand… I’ve been on the waiting list 3 years for a couple of watches lol I don’t know why I bothered. Anyway if it’s bought to wear as fashion/designer buy super clone, if it’s for an investment buy genuine. They won’t feel different from one or other if you buy a correct super clone even professionals have struggled telling the fakes to the real ones

[@SFVYachtClub]

@@patricj951 If you're in Hong Kong or Thailand someplace wearing your sub with New Balances with a Hawaiian shirt with a professional female of dubious age on your arm, yeah people will think it's fake. Everybody already know American boomer man hide all him money in RV and stock market, lah.

[@fitsara]

That basically shows that the costs of materials, production, shipping, etc is 500$ or less. The rest is "prestige", "heritage" and the other fancy words people invent for marketing.

[@adambernard1404]

Correct. The biggest cost of luxury goods are the marketing expenses.

[@JustMe99999]

It costs $900 to make a real Rolex Submariner. More than the fake, but still -- the MSRP is $9500.

[@redbarchetta8782]

The Oyster and the easy tell is @ 1:12. Rolex will always line it's letters to the minute marks on the inner ring. You can see the Jubilee version Rolex does not line up such.

[@mehmetklc9331]

How quickly my watch from swissarex came astounded me. It was safely wrapped and had a genuine appearance.

[@ShittyMcPoopyBalls]

Your mom had a genuine appearance when I was done with her

[@n3wt]

doesn't the scam look obvious when u have hundred bot comments like this 😂😂😂

[@112doc]

I have owned a Rolex Oyster Submariner for thirty years. Wife bought it from a very reputable jeweler. You are correct it was a celebration of a career milestone.Serviced and appraised several times, no purchase regret. It has appreciated 400% and is the only jewelry I wear (not even a wedding ring for me because I work with power tools).

[@robertposteschild2353]

4:25 loosening and tightening the screws does not change the weight. After all, the weight is still the same. What it changes is the moment of inertia, which alters the rate at which the balance spins.

[@bd604]

i'm glad someone else caught that

[@mitchellnock4152]

Although you explained it better, I think that’s what he was trying to say bud - more weight at one end changes the moment of inertia

[@spamham1976]

But I didn’t see a curb regulator in the video that he was describing as fake.

[@watchalot919]

If the fake is so close it makes you wonder why the original costs 20 times more

[@Slayer92IT]

Rolex force people buy fake with his retarded lists...

[@MrThe1234guy]

Is craftsmanship and prestige

[@lv3575]

They both took craftsmanship and prestige. The mistakes on the fake can be fixed for 100$. That still leave a 10k difference. Your paying specifically for the name Rolex because fakes are 95% spot on. And that last 5% isn’t work 10k

[@SoftlyDoesIt]

the movement....

[@borjastick]

For $600 odd the clones are absolutely amazing. I know, I have the Starbucks Sub and am totally knocked out by how good it is. Of course the fakers cannot copy the engraving because they have no idea what Rolex exactly do and what machines they have but that's just splitting hairs. I bought mine because I was fed up wasting years asking ADs if I could beg them to let me buy a real one. The irony is that recently I went through the whole process again with some emails to ADs asking if I could perform a sex act on them to get a real Rolex expecting to be rebuffed or ignored and then my phone rang. It was an AD who very nicely told me that she can get me what I want if I could visit their store. I have arranged a visit for two weeks time so will be excited to see what she says. I have no previous relationship with them so maybe stock is coming in faster and they know they need new customers.

[@kiwibean8881]

Where did you order this from? I want to know which website to avoid..

[@Rj_da_Don]

“For research purposes “ 😂😂😂

[@zlatantopg]

nobody knows apperently

[@OngoGablogian185]

I wonder if anyone has ever got a job in a watch retailer, purchased a few superclones for the really high-end ones, then swapped them and left a few months later. On the event that someone eventually found out, finding the CCTV evidence would be impossible.

[@Big_Sierra]

They would be caught pretty quick. High end watch boutiques don’t mess around.

[@billsmith8339]

HAHA At around 7:09. he says "being crazy enough to buy ..." which is the biggest "tell"! I personally do not see a problem owning a clone, mainly because as soon as you own either a real or fake, you'll admire it and simply go on to another thing to buy ...

[@MerlintheMaineCoon]

Bought dozens of high-end watches online from private sellers. Never had any issues with authenticity or fraud. People in Switzerland are just extremely honest. 😅

[@bartobruintjes7056]

I feel lucky and blessed with a fake one for a fraction of the price.

[@navegandolejanooriente6268]

I bought a Rolex 126610 clone, in Thailand, just to see how it compares. Despite the details you are mentioning, it is scary close to the real thing, even Water proof 300 but it runs 20 seconds fast a day but could be regulated. I use to be able to pick out a fake from across the room but with this one on someone's wrist, there is no way to tell for sure without holding it and using a loop. They even gave me a card of authentic with it that is also looks scare close to legit. I terrified to see how good they are going to get in five years. Moral of the story is don't buy a Rolex without a third party verification because it's getting easier to get duked on a fake Rolex when you are thinking of buying the real one on the grey market.

[@Parrottptg]

if its that close then it makes sense to just buy a fake. Take the extra money and invest it elsewhere. Rolex's are way overpriced anyways

[@AndreasNortham3906]

Just buy the reps. You get the real rep while you can get duped trying to get the real one plus rolex ad is an asshole. They just wanna sell to scalpers trying to hoard to get that middlemen money

[@Megatraum504]

i wouldnt trust a clones water proof rating. Not more to wash your hands with. They will tell you themselves not to submerge them. 20 seconds a day sounds like a bad clone to be honest. My datejust rep is +/- 7 seconds. And my daytona rep runs +/- 12 s.

[@sebastianzalamea2284]

Does the place where you bought it have a website

[@navegandolejanooriente6268]

@@sebastianzalamea2284 sorry, no

[@samuellafleur7027]

This is why I love my super clone Daytona. I'm young and don't have the money for a watch like that, but I love to look of their watches. for 750 I got something that is almost indistinguishable from the real thing. so much more worth it for me.

[@JakeAkstins]

Pretty good comparison. I'd be interested in other rolex model fake vs real videos.

[@seaninlondon4424]

You have just shown where the super clone makers need to up their game and they will.

[@psidhu1979]

Lol..they will never!!

[@kronickingpin]

​@@psidhu1979 why wouldn't they every one is about clout these days why would you spend 20k on a watch when you can spend 600 to a 1k on the same watch and 99 percent of people will never know the difference

[@jameslester6785]

@@kronickingpin Not the point. As he said in the video, it's how YOU feel about wearing a clone.

[@TheCameltotem]

Oh they could make an 1:1 clone but they rather dripfeed you with small upgrades, thats how they make their money. If they make it "perfect" from the start they cant upsell you more reps.

[@derrickabellard1077]

That Jubilee isn’t a super clone. If it is, it’s an old one. Every single thing you mentioned about the fake is fixed in three latest batch from C factory.

[@arasgaming805]

I only buy from swissarex

[@MrStrictlyHonest]

I like how you describe the feeling of wearing a fake watch, spot on!!!

[@4DR14NCR41G]

Guessed it was the Jubilee but it was just the feeling something was off, it’s scary how much close up attention it takes. Always compare wearing a fake Rolex to wearing a wig

[@vir042]

I think it's the glare that make you feel that way.. I also thought one of them looked cheaper and after some thinking i realised it was the anti-reflective coating being better on one of them..

[@davemitchell3998]

except when you get mugged you wont be crying about the cost too much

[@jaimegutierrez9106]

@@davemitchell3998 with any luck the mugger will be shot and his survivors will be the one's crying.

[@andyqu888]

BRO the rehaut is off on my real GMT too now its making me question everything!!! Is that possible?

[@thexchox1554]

Funny enough… during the first close up pictures… I liked the fake one in every photo. 😬

[@BetaProductionz]

That's incredible. When I was looking I thought for sure the "oyster" was the fake!

[@TimdogQ]

I like your take on not having the same feeling when you wear the fake. I’ve contemplated these “super clones” and now after hearing you say that, I know I’m all set.

[@hansr370]

all set to buy one?? haha, I mean personally I would buy some super clones and keep the real at home because crime rate is getting crazy that I am scared to wear my watch out about

[@crherniman]

You nailed it with the "amplification" statement. I have an authentic 16710 and was considering selling and getting a 136660. I worked really hard to buy that gmt so I wanted to make sure I was making the right choice before selling. So I got a "super clone" deepsea to live with it for a while. It is a nice watch but it's not the same. In the end I kept the GMT. I really like the deepsea and it looks fine on my larger wrist but I don't want to give up my GMT yet and I can't justify 2 watches with cost.

[@riccochet704]

​ @WristSwap There are "frankenclones" that use genuine parts. Like the dial, hands, bezel insert or entire bezel, crystal, balance wheel. The movements are taken apart and finished down much better. You'll pay a couple thousand for one, obviously due to the genuine parts. But without something like a microscope you are not going to tell the difference. That's the scary part about buying second hand. There are no "tells" left. My genuine 116610LN isn't perfect either. The rehaut engraving is not perfectly centered and the bezel does not stop perfectly at 12 o'clock. Rolex has their own set of tolerance deviations that they consider acceptable. That being said I have an $800 CF/VSF mash up replica of a 126610LN that I wear when traveling. The guy that services all of my watches gave it a good servicing when I received it. Even he was impressed with the quality, fit and finish while knowing it was fake. Funny enough the cloned movement keeps time better than my genuine.

[@TheSAMTHOO]

considering the current advancements in rep tech, if you had a chance to go back would you have still gotten your gen 116610LN?

[@riccochet704]

@@TheSAMTHOO Yes.

[@GRN764]

Did you mixup the real and fake watches at 6:40? Isn't there supposed to be a crown between the words "SWISS" and "MADE" at 6 o'clock?

[@biker2k3]

I thought the same thing, on the Rolex website seeing that model has the crown in the middle of the Swiss made, could it be possible that both are fake?

[@GokuBall494]

swissarex is est dealer for replica watches

[@pomp4401]

Scam

[@thefrexanengineer]

What gave the fake away for me was the misalignment of the ROLEX letters with the minute indices at 1:15. Notice how they are perfectly aligned and finished at 1:13

[@vangmx]

Same for me. I noticed the misalignment too, therefore I knew the jubilee was the fake.

[@dustingreenhill9711]

Currently in Turkey and out of pure interest hunted around for the not so illusive “Super Clone” watches. Lucky enough to have a couple of real mid range watches (£5-£8k) and so asked to see the model I own and was blown away how accurate they are. As most say it was only the mechanicals / winding of the movement that gave it away. But stood up to the eye inspection. They were “asking” €1,400 and didn’t negotiate as not interested but felt that was going to be the price. For something that could stop working anytime you’d be better saving another €600-€800 and buying a Tudor or similar. The shop and range of watches they had was on par with Geneva airport or high end Jewelers which I suppose is intended to give you the feeling of purchasing a quality item. Bottom line is as in the review final comments. You will fool others, no doubt, but you want fool yourself into that feeling you’ve “earned” it and the reward that comes with it.

[@boydsterling3193]

No doubt the same watch they were asking €1400 for would be half the cost or less when purchased from China (NOT from “swissarex” or whatever scam site the bots are promoting at the moment)

[@rlkinnard]

i would feel better about wearing a clone which could be stolen than an actual rolex.

[@MichaelJwolf1984]

Funny guys says you earned it. Just like Debeers convincing only diamond shows how much somebody loves you. The smartest guy would by a high end super clone use the difference to something more honorable with the difference. CHARITY,perhaps someone in need. The fact Rolex has done this on purpose.limiting supply to AD who sell to flippers who inflate prices upward 500%

[@Big_Sierra]

Tudor all the way. A masterpiece of a watch without paying for all the hype.

[@MichaelJwolf1984]

@@Big_Sierra too bad great watch with a permanent Walmart Rolex appeal.

[@Red-Red-Red-Red]

There is no harm in owning a superclone or aaa watch alongside some of your genuine watches. I have just one replica and the rest are genuine watches. Think of watches as daily accessories (i.e clothing, sunglasses, shoes, ties, bag). Having watches of different color to go with clothing. Being safe to wear a replica in an area where you may likely get mugged. What i certainly wouldn't be doing is buying a replica based on a watch more than £100k and flash it around. People that you cross paths with, will end up embarrassing you. Just buy a superclone that looks sutble and beautiful, not bling bling!

[@fishbait007]

I own three authentic Rolies bought from an AD in my area! They verbally promised me a Panda six and a half year ago ago and here I am without one still. I am thinking about getting a fake one from CF and wear it until can get a real one from an AD!

[@jamied931]

Six years ago you coulda bought it grey market for near retail 😂

[@appleman29]

stop exposing the factory names. if they go down, its cause of yall

[@minisimpalex4342]

…what does CF stand for

[@johnnyg419]

Cool, story…. But where can I buy that super clone?! Thanks.

[@appleman29]

@@johnnyg419 not telling u. to risky

[@jonaspeters5213]

Feel like I’m at an eye exam for the first part lol

[@chadechevalric686]

I could not spot the fake. Thanks for showing us!

[@_Bnr_]

A lot of bots here shilling 'swissarex' and pretending to be genuine reviews 🤬It's most likely a scam, beware! Taken from the description: "Don't buy fake watches - when buying such a watch, you are supporting criminal enterprises. You're also lying to not only everyone around you, but also yourself."

[@HollyWaters-h2m]

woahh! saw this at wristova as well, looked decent to me!!

[@tallnskinygaming]

My favorite thing to do with clones that you cannot do with genuine, is make them one of a kind custom pieces of art. The awesome part about clones is you can take dials that don't go with stainless steel and bezels that are only on precious metal models or bracelet swaps, painting hands, all kinds of mods where as doing so to your genuine will devalue it.

[@remifassol4198]

Very informative, thanks for that and the Discord (which I've just joined!)!

[@lunchrevisited]

Great video - clear and succinct, without the hype. Best explanation I've seen so far about why fakes are not worth buying. Thanks!

[@JohnBowl14690]

But there are good reasons to buy a fake as well. If I ever got a fake, I would tell others it's a fake. I'm not rich, so I would never pretend I am rich. The only way I would get a real Rolex is if I had top 2% net worth or more. If you don't have at least $2 million of DISPOSABLE income, why would you want to buy a watch that cost $20K? Even a bad employee of an Authrorized dealer can swap out the movement and give you a fake. So in my humble opinion, in order to be able to AFFORD a real Rolex, you have to have enough money to where even if someone robbed you or swapped out your movement....that you wouldn't care. I know many will disagree, but that's what I think. In the meantime, a $300 Seiko is probably more than I will ever need.

[@BabyJesus66]

It seems like this shows the real one isn't worth buying for 20x as much money. It's not 20x better.

[@hoffpauirconcrete.semperfidCC]

Not really a watch guy but these videos are incredibly interesting ....might be a watch guy if i keep watching these

[@rlkinnard]

All this pluggng of Swissarex makes me think that this is a marketing ploy; good job Swissarex.

[@auburnsenn2040]

Super video n many thanks for educating us all. Have you got videos on Omega fake/real comparisons as well???

[@piperpilot3667]

I didn't think I would spot it however a thing that made me spot it was the offset of the ROLEX laser markings inside of the dial as well as the weird finish on the actual steel.

[@1986xuan]

same, i noticed that as well

[@otrkid70]

I'm going to buy a Super clone watch because of your video. If the differences between a $20k and $1K watch are that minute why would i pay $20k?

[@impexRQ]

If you have the Pepsi, the easiest way to find out if it’s genuine is to light the bezel with a UV lamp … if the bezel turns completely red… you got the genuine 👌🏻 that’s what amazes me for the Pepsi bezel

[@snyperghost2262]

Thanks for letting the replica makers their next goal to make them better.

[@impexRQ]

@@snyperghost2262 they can’t afford and they can’t replicated it - no worries

[@HarrisonElmore]

That's a great note. Never heard that!

[@certainly2509]

@@impexRQ Well the Chinese are persistent and wouldn't be surprised if they eventually make a perfect clone in the future, given the evolution of fakes over the last 20 to 30 years.

[@RoganBryan]

I recently bought a $600 fake Datejust 41. I’ve had a genuine DJ in 36mm for nearly 40 years. I bought a genuine dial, crystal , bezel and calender disc. I had the watch cleaned , lubed and the genuine parts fitted by a helpful watchmaker. Not only can I detect no difference whatever between my genuine DJ and the fake (aside from the size and age difference) but the fake has been running at minus one second a day for months now. Better than my genuine one and well within Rolex’s own Superlative Chronometer parameters. As requested I have not mentioned the name of the factory or the dealer who supplied the fake. You say scary, I say Astonishing.

[@watchguy7986]

As a fellow watch nut, I am glad I found your channel. Nicely done, not too much fluff and right to the point. Looking forward to more videos.

[@-_-._.-.]

I 100% gonna buy the fake one if i had the money but I don’t.

[@jimmyz5831]

Thanks for the tips. I'm gonna get a clone now.

[@scumbagthe5500]

The question is how good the clone is for the money. I think that with regularly services and good treatment this could easily last for 20-30 years. And that feeling you mentioned is just a ego boost.

[@Arseization]

Apart from the problem that no reputable watchmaker would ever service a fake watch, the problem is simply that they took a movement apart to rebuild it to replicate an other movement. The parts, even if assembled in an equal matter, are not built for the design / purpose of the movement. You would also need to refinish a lot of the parts because the whole concept of a watch is friction based and the finishing you saw here would just hinder that. You could make it run for years but for the amount of hassle, why not just buy a seiko or citizen and have that for 20 years? Why buy the replica of something that is redundant in the first place other than to be a luxury good.

[@mikesvirtualhikeandtours1721]

@@Arseization I knew a dude that got a watch from his Dad. Turned out to be a fake. He brought it in to get serviced and that is how he found out. He is still getting it serviced because it was his fathers and his Dad wore it all the time. I dont think they care as long as you are paying my good person.

[@TheCameltotem]

@@Arseization To be fair, you could buy a whole new rep for the service costs of a gen.

[@scumbagthe5500]

truth right there 🙏@@TheCameltotem

[@t0nje]

@@Arseization You ask the real question. Why people dont buy cheaper watches or micro brands that have insane value for money, and if they really want the rolex looks there are tons of real watch brands that makes homages. But no, and its simple, people try to lie for themselves and justify buying a replica "its good value for money, real product is overpriced!!"but they just want it because it is rolex with all its demand, status, recognition that comes with it.

[@AyakaTakayama]

Bought a few watches from Igrotum, and every one of them looks perfect

[@V_for_VENDETTA27]

I bought my fake 5 years ago it is insane, still working Im going to pools, saunas, gym watch is still working perfectly. The best part is I never got busted even tho my friends were original watches they never find out that mine is fake to this day.

[@iceman01gun]

damn that is sad tbh, not sad because its a fake but sad that you didnt tell your friends it was fake

[@chriscallihan3014]

Where’d you buy from 👀

[@DonLee1980]

Lol, and you're so proud that you bought that fake watch. Imagine if I bought a $600 Tissot, and say, "omg it's insane, the watch is still working!!" Do you also put 4 fake exhaust pipes at the back of your car and stuff your underpants with a sock?

[@mcmathayus]

Where do you buy it!!!!!

[@lloydwellington5271]

The biggest scam of them all, now, is selling $30 fakes for $600 super clones.

[@jonsantos1703]

Which specific website did you get this one from?

[@damianchang6439]

I knew personally the fake was the Jubilee bracelet watch because the moment you showed the rehaut with the ROLEX lettering off centre from the markers I put my house on it being the moody one. They don’t seem at the moment to be able to perfect that from what I’ve seen of replicas.

[@HarrisonElmore]

I've seen some are more accurate than this, but the engraving quality is still not the same

[@sfqm1083]

There are cheaper fakes where the rehaut on the inner bezel is almost indistinguishable, but lacking in some other areas. The different factories have their different priorities, the best super clones come from the middle men who combine the different parts

[@juniortoledo8088]

This could be just because the person who assembled the watch was careless to allign the rehaut to the dial marking or the dial is not properly aligned to the movement. I'm no expert but I believe if the movement screws get loose and the the movement gets slightly rotated, both may align.

[@slashdotism]

@@juniortoledo8088 Yeah the whole dial printing is shifted actually. If you look at the "Swiss Made" it's too low. The guy who bought this example didn't QC well enough, would have been an RL for me at least.

[@jamesreardon9422]

Yep. The first three things I always check is the rehaut alignment, the date wheel alignment, the bezel insert paint.

[@darraghking]

The engraving on the rehaut is a massive giveaway

[@speakersteve9586]

So I'm guessing this isn't a VS or Clean factory clone? B/c the VS and esp. the Clean should be closer than that on the inside, almost indistinguishable. But those should run closer to $1500 USD. Anyway, just give them some more time. They're making the fakes better and better every day. Hard to part with over ten Gs when you can get 99.9999% the same thing for a tenth of that.

[@speakersteve9586]

@xwristswap Okay. Cool

[@patrickcho791]

Clean GMT master ii is like 500-600, no ides where you’re seeing $1500

[@scottyee707]

As someone who owns Rolex I feel kind of ripped off considering factories can put this kind of quality out for so much less... Very torn right now

[@patrickcho791]

@@scottyee707 enjoy your rollie bro, reps are really accurate nowadays but at the end of they are still reps. You can enjoy both

[@speakersteve9586]

@@scottyee707 I would too. As stated above in my comment, these fakes are 99.9% exact copies, and some of them I've seen under the microscope appear to have better polishing and fit and finish than the real ones!

[@QuietCooking]

This is why Grand Seiko watches are far superior. No one will come close to replicating the finishing of their watches, let alone their movements

[@Adb07d]

No one wants to because their isn't a market for it. They have a hard enough time selling the authentic ones.

[@ghhyh5018]

Living in South Africa, which has one of the highest crime rates in the world, wearing my Rolex watch out in public makes me feel very at risk and potentially targetted by anyone walking past me, makes me paranoid, we have a gang here that's called the Rolex gang which have been responsible for killing, following, hijacking and shooting multiple people just to take the watch of their wrist, and in most cases it happens in the middle of the day in public areas and they usually escape being caught by the police as they are often slow to respond and dont really look into it once they arive on scene, so buying a high end replica Rolex that I can wear just as I would my real Rolex is a great option, they look and feel so real I can enjoy looking at them as I would my genuine ones and if I do get mugged or heald at gun point I can without hesitation hand over my replica knowing I can always get another one and that my genuines are safe and far from the action in a lovely vault. People hate on replicas but in alot of places nowadays it's the smart thing to wear if you like wearing your watches

[@ace9xx]

The Rolex gang must use some pretty advanced tech to spot a high-end replica on your wrist from a distance and leave you alone. Be sure to keep those slightly thicker indices clearly visible, so they do not shoot such a remarkably intelligent individual as you clearly are. Edit: Oh, I see now (I did not read you comment to the end at first), the gang only shoots people who refuse to hand over the watch. And according to your logic, members of a Rolex gang always ask people to hand over their watches and of course you assume that a Rolex owner values his watch more than his life, so he will not give the watch to the robbers and all victims are therefore just stubborn and reckless people. You do not have to explain. Just tell me, do you actually believe that you will fool someone, besides children, that you, with your intellect, have a real Rolex? :) If you are really that wealthy, then it must be parents money or a lottery or I do not know...

[@QuickQuips]

If my hobby threatened my everyday life I'd compromise too. I'd be wearing a Casio.

[@2FindOut]

So for 10,000$ i can take a magnifying glass and a real one to compare it against and hope no one ever opens it at a dinner party?

[@outlawebikebuildshow492]

The only replica watches in comparison videos are the low to mid ones, the chances that there has not been a steady and controlled supply of perfect replicas entering the gray market for quite some time, seems likely to be wishful thinking. I think Rolex has begun trying to weed them out with the new certified pre-owned program.

[@HarrisonElmore]

I didn’t know how high end they go. I’d have to research that more it seems

[@Omega08082]

@@HarrisonElmore Which factory made the one in the video? Clean Factory has the best ones and, within the next few weeks, VSF will come out with their even more improved version.

[@scottyee707]

@@Omega08082 I've also heard of a BT factory? There's also people taking these super clone cases and putting authentic Rolex parts in them making it even harder to tell.

[@gudelauneee]

I've Also purchased a superclone since the original one isn't available. Waiting for almost 4 years to get the original one. Hope they can deliver soon.

[@coldworld5]

I love it when people start talking about “the feel” the “emotion” the “enhancing of the moment” when they’re talking about not having a replica. In 10 years time the Chinese will be making like for like replicas, look how far they’ve come in the last 10 years. I saved for a very long time to buy a BMW M3, it was my dream car, I felt achieved when I bought it and I feel proud driving it, HOWEVER, if I could get the exact same car for 10k rather than 60. I’d buy it in a heartbeat.

[@dstfno]

Yeah well, authenticity means something to some people.

[@coldworld5]

@@dstfno when something becomes a like for like replica when is it authentic? When someone has paid more? Perceived authenticity and authenticity are two different things. If two items have the same level of craftsmanship and one cost £500 and one cost £30000 you’re only buying the “authentic version” because you are using it as a show of wealth.

[@dstfno]

@@coldworld5 No, I'm buying it because I value the history of the brand and the vision it had to create a watch that became timeless. That history is the reason why the watch is being copied. And the fact the original company employs workers who earn good wages in a good working environment. I'm not denying it is overpriced, but is luxury not a basic need.

[@mrtimjitsu]

The offline rehaut on the jubilee was a more obvious tell. But an offline rehaut can happen on a gen too.

[@capmidnite]

To everyone saying they bought watches from Swissarex, isn't what they're doing illegal?

[@syrialyze7654]

Swissarex is a scam. They are botting comments and likes to drive in customers. Probably pulling in tens of thousands from their comments on this video.

[@Mew_747]

those are bots. its probably a scam site and they flood watche's video comment section with bots praising themselves.just marketing. horribly annoying marketing but enough to get 1 or 2 guys

[@whollymindless]

"Amplification" is a great word for that feeling.

[@filosofastone1442]

the fake one has better finishings than the real one. wow

[@skd]

If you check the date font, you will see the difference without opening the watch :)

[@HarrisonElmore]

Right you are!

[@doperdr]

who would care and go through the pain of getting an original and pay 10k£ for something so mediocre that can be cloned in 500£. and remember selling price 500. manufacturing cost must be below 100£ 🤣

[@jamied931]

Because youre lying to yourself. Theres plenty of great non fakes you can get and not be a liat.

[@doperdr]

@@jamied931 you need immediate help

[@jamied931]

@@doperdr no not really. I dont see the point in buying a fake.

[@doperdr]

@@jamied931 damn son 😆 i never supported buying a fake. idiot. i am saying the real is so mediocre that it can be cloned in 100pounds.

[@certainly2509]

@Dope RDO Why wear a fake? You will always know it's not the real deal. If you can't afford it then buy a Hamilton or Longines watch. Watches that have heritage and history behind them are the way to go.

[@vladyhernandez1582]

Wheres the link to buy it??

[@LouieFlips]

Where did you buy the clones

[@Marjii_11]

jtimegg has best replicas on whole world

[@SamuelIngry]

The build quality of Igrotum fake watches is master

[@chillingfox2155]

What's a reliable site to buy those super clones???

[@emrekarakus-bj4me]

The timepieces offered at jtimegg have an incredibly high level of attention to detail. You won't be let down by the caliber.

[@ashvikcaldarone]

Although I had doubts about buying a replica watch, gussl dispelled my doubts. The watch has an authentic look and feel.

[@jaycruise5084]

You know what’s scarier??? Paying above retail . There , I said it !!!!!

[@TaylahCockburn]

The craftsmanship of Igrotum fake watches cant be beaten

[@picassoboy52]

I worked in a jewelry store years ago. One day this kid came in with a hideous counterfeit Rolex, thinking he was going to fool the experts. He boldly stated to us that he would be willing to take $5000 for it. Needless to say he was laughed out of the store. Its amazing how brazen these guys are.

[@zenderady]

The "X" on the inside bezel is not in the middle of the indeces on the right side and the "R" is not on the left side.

[@diznutz5110]

All i have to do is look at the crystal and rehaut engraving. Takes 20 secs for me. If its a franken watch i might have to go a bit deeper. But its pretty easy once you know.

[@RayshellBoyer]

Igrotum replicas are so good, they feel just like the original

[@RobertClolery-h5r]

?? What is the time keeping difference?