From the 60 Minutes Archive: Former Team USA gymnasts describe doctor's alleged sexual abuse

[@mermaidgirl9232]

They should have let that girls dad go after him instead of holding him back.

[@theduchessofkitty4107]

Too bad I could only give you one “Like.”

[@DeRussellMasina]

As a Girl Dad in endorse this message

[@lunabelletheinsane]

They probably would have if like 20 people wouldn't have lost their jobs for looking the other way since it was documented in court.

[@johnleclerc8806]

Any program or activity involving children must provide supervision so no child is ever alone with any adult. The added layer of supervision will be inconvenient at times and possibly expensive but we cannot allow any more abuses.

[@dare98]

My point exactly. and no amount of inconvenience is too much if we can prevent future children from being sexually abused!

[@lunabelletheinsane]

I watched both documentaries that came out about this. Nassar freaking violated some of these women WITH THIER PARENTS IN THE ROOM. He just blocked their view so effectively that they just had no idea and the girls though, there's no way they don't know. But they didn't. So even with the parent in the room - it still happened. Supervison isn't what's needed. It's believng the victims when they speak out and changing the environment in general so that they fell they CAN speak out without fear of retribution.

[@Emper0rH0rde]

@@lunabelletheinsane Also properly vetting anyone and everyone before allowing them to work with minors.

[@folaback46]

​@@dare98 that's true

[@shahwilloughby4603]

​@@lunabelletheinsaneI'm telling you right now .. as a Mother of 4 children IF I had a child that needed ANY treatment by a Doctor that involved my child having no underwear on especially .. I would be right bedside that child. No way would ANY Doctor position himself between me and my child. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it shows you Nassar's level of manipulation. Not only did he manipulate those girls .. he also manipulated their parents. Disgusting excuse for a human being. I hope he gets what he deserves in prison.

[@Valkyr713]

It's disgusting that the adults In charge re-victimized these young women, and then scolded and silenced them when they asked for help. Disgusting. These women are warriors

[@Harpoon2theRescue]

Such phony outrage.

[@Valkyr713]

Me?

[@DanceDaily]

exactly. they told people in charge and those people belittled their stories, delayed investigations (never did them) and covered up. THIS IS DISGUSTING and it makes me want to boycott the Olympics. let's focus on local gymanistics and take our eyes off the olympics which made money for DECADES OFF ABUSE OF INNOCENT CHILDREN.

[@teresakoslosky3053]

They were too young to know it was wrong…. It’s not like he was a visable monster, it was done in private and if u don’t understand the shame involved and the pressure on the girls and boys thenYou have not been sexually abused…or groomed like I was!!!!!!!

[@denboer908denboer8]

They should have a female gymnastics doctors.

[@DeRussellMasina]

I understand you sentiment but you are implying lesbians don't exist or same sex assault doesn't occur.

[@stardustring]

Exactly

[@altidareach5068]

She could be a lesbian and still abuse the girls and young ladies lol 😅

[@altidareach5068]

💯 agreed

[@Arizona_lilly]

If woman wants she will abuse too

[@akschmidt2085]

Women he did that to? It's GIRLS. They were children!!

[@brendakauffman2222]

It's not alleged abuse 60 min. It is actual abuse. The man was found guilty of the charges of sexual abuse and is in prison. 150 testified, 150 more gave a testimony by paper. The judge believes he probably abused 1000-3000 victims if you go by the reporting of sexual abuse. Usually 2/3rds of abuse is never reported. There are still athletes and women coming out of denial and realizing they were abused.

[@BonnieDragonKat]

At the time this was filmed, it had not gone to trial. Alleged is the correct term legally.

[@theduchessofkitty4107]

When this was broadcast, he had not yet plead guilty to all those State counts of abuse, nor there was yet seven days’ worth of very public sentencing hearings or all the victim’s impact statements. They thought they were going to have four days’ worth of statements. But then more victims came forward, and more days were added. Nor were there guilty pleas yet in another county, nor victim impact statements and sentencing in that other county. After all of that happened, you can be sure he will never leave prison - not even as a corpse.

[@creating1_c1999]

I want to throw up.

[@nenengjames-lefebvre7474]

Karoylis Needs To Be In Jail As Well!!! Along With Penny... And Every Single Enabler Of Nassar!!!

[@paulsiegel9746]

Spahn , Neverland, Karolyi. Probably a good idea to stay from any place that's called a ranch

[@alhana8293]

Sad but true

[@bestgirl3380]

Foxcatcher farm is another one

[@mo1wosoz848]

Also that one Dr. Phil sends all the kids to. So many stories of abuse

[@baba2024-y2c]

This has nothing to do with sports but there's also another place that I can mention where in the independent fundamentalist circles , Phil gothard and his institute and basic life principles. I'm not sure Bill gothard ever actually molested a girl but the way he acted he came right up to the edge by playing footsie and being with underage girls after hours. Just Google the term gothers girls and you'll see a picture of him sitting on a wicker chair with these girls surrounding him like they're his harem. I bring this point up because I think the USA gymnastics for years was just nothing but a religious cult of sorts win at all costs

[@dare98]

Crazy how they insult our intelligence every time they say that no one knew about this. I understand the girls were young and didn’t know what was going on but if the people in charge for over years (Karolyis) were attentive enough and actually cared about these girls to maybe ask them how they were emotionally or make sure no adult is alone with any young girl. They would have definitely known or could have prevented this. Seriously ridiculous

[@kwatkins4222]

“You don’t complain about treatment” wtf 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@giorgosvournas7521]

Many people parents and kids reported him, but no action was taken.

[@DanceDaily]

so so many people knew and they didn't listen or change when the parents and the girls told them. let's boycott the olympics until they hold people accountable

[@natknight4639]

Glove or not these girls would've still been traumatized. Kids cannot consent to medical treatment like that. Besides, it sounds like they could still lose their virginity and get hurt? Wtf.

[@mygirldarby]

What so you mean? Lose their virginity?

[@giorgosvournas7521]

He was grooming the daughter of one of his friends too. She was no athlete. She told her parents, but they believed him. Her father later committed suicide out of guilt

[@christinafidance340]

First of all, I do not believe for one second that any type of “treatment” requires him to stick his fingers inside these girls’ private areas. He’s not a gynecologist and even if he was, it would require 1. Another person to be in the room and 2. A glove. This is so absurd on so many levels. Just utterly disgusting.

[@mo1wosoz848]

That's exactly what I was thinking. He was a "Holistic" doctor. And the procedure he's talking about is done by a pelvic floor therapist. To be ungloved, and to do it to a minor?? Oh God, I seriously hope he doesn't get away with this because of the argument 'it was a medical procedure"

[@surgeon1016]

@@mo1wosoz848he certainly didn’t get away with it he was sentenced to 175 years in state prison along with 60 years in federal prison let’s just say he’ll be long dead before he ever gets out of jail

[@mygirldarby]

​@@mo1wosoz848 get away with it?? He was sentenced to 145 years several years ago.

[@kellywilliamson2187]

Do you know why people go to grocery stores? Because that is where the food is! Anyone that has access to young and vulnerable children is suspect! Anyone!

[@damagedone56]

The HBO doc on this was fantastic

[@chatbud]

What is it called? Tks.

[@nenengjames-lefebvre7474]

@@chatbud At The Heart Of Gold, Inside The USA Gymnastic

[@CSgtDad]

Also watch Athlete A. Was very good documentaries

[@BonnieDragonKat]

Also there is a series on KZbin called Defying Gravity.

[@CSgtDad]

Another book I read was little girls in pretty boxes. It tells about the abuse of the Karolis and Larry Nassier

[@edmccaffrey1]

How much did Bella and Martha Karoyli know and for how long?

[@Redmoto057]

That’s honestly a good question! If they knew with this! I hope they get punished as well!

[@Marketoromagnolo]

they knew nothing, I believe them, they are strict coaches but that's all

[@barbaravendro913]

@@Marketoromagnolo The wife was also physically abusive by hitting a gymnast with a large ring on that hand. They are either lying or plain stupid.. My money is on lying.

[@Marketoromagnolo]

@@barbaravendro913 yes sure..... 2 monsters, 2 serial killers........ ahahahhahahhahah

[@kristenroberts4502]

We will never know if they knew. But they were problems all by themselves. The girls slept in cabins with bugs and showered in unwashed showers and were forced to remove medical casts and compete on broken bones.

[@sunshinedewes4277]

Anyone who was in a position to speakout or who sat on any of these organizations involved with women's gymnastics and didn't should be canned.

[@ShandaAbsar]

Thanks for the upload. First time hearing

[@DanceDaily]

I will not put my daughters into GYMNASTICS, spread the word, protect your children.

[@davymike761]

A male doctor around young women? Which genius thought of that!

[@mygirldarby]

They were girls, most were not women. Grown women would have known what he was doing was wrong. In fact, one of the few who reported it at the time was 24 year old womenathlete at MSUwho knew he was sexually assaulting her and pushed him off of her when he penerated her with his ungloved fingers.

[@squidmom390]

These girl where in a sport where their mind was conditioned to suck it up and dont complain. Their coach that was a women and Nassar close pal should also be in jail.

[@mcfcguvnors]

Totally

[@ingridlinbohm7682]

What is fascinating is this is what happens to electorates who don't protest when they are abused by the same psychological pressures. The elector pays the price for following a fantasy. The gymnast seeks medals and fame, the elector better state services or lower taxes.

[@Yuhon100]

These are great gymnasts, that they were not aware of what Nassar was doing to them. Larry Nassar manipulated them thinking that it is a normal treatment, but they didn't know that he was sexual abuse them.

[@shahwilloughby4603]

And that is why it makes this all the more horrific. Little girls who were with a trusted Team Doctor .. uncomfortable with the "procedure" but unaware it was sexual abuse. Many times a parent was in the room with them. I honestly believe they need to dig deeper. This monster had access to so many young girls. Like the lawyer said "he is a serial predator who has done this for many, many years" and he believed the victims could be in the hundreds as Larry Nassar was around these kids since 1996.

[@francesgrumblatt3420]

Why weren’t theses girls confiding in their parents? I told my children to tell me immediately if anyone was touching them inappropriately or touching them period! If they didn’t like it to tell me!

[@keris81]

So my mother always told us that too. As a teenager I told her about an incident with my grandfather. He put me on his lap in the bath. I was 3 I think. Very young. My mother says she doesn't understand why I never told her.. I don't either to be honest.. grandfather was long dead when I told her..

[@rosethefirechieftess1683]

It took years to tell my mom that someone had touched me inappropriately.

[@politereminder6284]

They were isolated from their parents so they could go for gold. It was a boarding facility. They were placed in a generally abusive environment where you were starved and emotionally broken so.that they never felt they could turn to any adult. The adults were already abusing their bodies in non sexual ways. And the girls could not complain or report about anything. These adults stood in the place of parents, and trained the girls that adults could not be turned to. These girls.were groomed into silence.

[@joaoportesantava1412]

I’m Latino, born in Brazil and my father is 100% Italian. If I had a daughter in gymnastics or any sport with the coach being men I would know everything!!! There would be no way my daughter would ever be checked out by a male doctor without me there or my wife. If they traveled and I could not be there I would make sure a women was by my daughter and I would have her call me and tell me everything! I would not allow it EVER! It would not happen! This man is horrific and I can’t say what I would do on KZbin or I would be banned and this taken down

[@surgeon1016]

Parents were in some cases in the room when the sexual abuse took place he had towels over them preventing parents from being aware of what he was actually doing

[@bigguccidylan5445]

His punishment should’ve been done by the fathers of the victims

[@teresakoslosky3053]

They were shamed for speaking their truth…..Shame on him and all adults involved! I know I was groomed by a youth pastor who told me that God had sent me to him🥲 keep it a secret because it was such a special love and care…I was shamed into silence…so No one knew for many years. I was told a pastor would never do that…I wasn’t believed….I was alone with this many times…. Believe it people…it is so hard to talk about , it is so SHAMEFUL!

[@henchyheld3925]

This whole story upsets me. I cannot understand how teenagers did not speak up then. They were 13 to 18 years old. Did not ONE girl know it was wrong and report it to their Parents. Did Families turn a Blind Eye for fame and fortune.

[@aliciaa4859]

they didn’t feel like they could! you cannot blame these children for not saying something, when they were in such a high stakes environment , they felt if they say something about this “doctor” who’s highly regarded, he’s nice to them, grooming them. it’s not on the children for saying something. it’s on the adults in power who let nassar alone with these children, and bred an environment where they felt as though their dreams would be destroyed if they spoke up. maggie nickols spoke up, and she was all but blacklisted and her olympic dreams were over before they got a fair shot

[@henchyheld3925]

@@aliciaa4859 . You are right in what you said, but you also agreed with me by saying that Maggie spoke up, and her career was over.

[@aliciaa4859]

@@henchyheld3925 her elite career yes, but idk what you’re saying i agree with you with? you og comment was just kinda blaming the children and their families and i definitely don’t agree with that so pls don’t confuse words

[@henchyheld3925]

@@aliciaa4859 . Her elite career or whatever. I know that maybe some younger girls did not know they were being sexually abused, but the older teens surely new. No one should go through what they did, but I feel 'some' of them could of come forward.

[@Annamaria-ft9nd]

@@henchyheld3925 they did speak up to coaches and adults back then but were not believed

[@detroittonio9565]

Oh somebody was watching just cared more about a medal

[@altidareach5068]

A prominent doctor now he’s a disgrace doctor 👨‍⚕️. Human being is so complex. I just don’t understand how someone destroy his own legacy. I feel sorry 😢 for all the girls, the young ladies and his family as well.

[@mcfcguvnors]

he just got stabbed 10 times in jail - even lifers murderers & serial killers hate the guy

[@jonnyrobcr]

Well dr fingers will be getting what he did for the rest of his miserable life

[@stephr9859]

Alleged abuse? He’s In prison, do better 60 Minutes.

[@sobrietywig2970]

At the time this was filmed, he hadnt been convicted yet, duhhh. Do better steph r

[@313Tekno]

Waaaaaaaaaaa!

[@DanceDaily]

good catch, yes, not 'alleged'!!!!!!!!!!

[@indiadewitt3570]

So u don’t know if they touch you like that to tell someone

[@DanceDaily]

THE CAROLI's NEED TO FACE JUSTICE

[@thesoccertrotter1]

They need to keep men away from youth female sports, plenty of women who can do these jobs and make the athletes feel more comfortable.

[@mcfcguvnors]

a male dr with young girls NEVER rang alarm bells ????

[@samsngdevice5103]

How come NBC Dateline didn't catch him?

[@DaveSCameron]

Busy tackling Chris Hansen ego outbreak?

[@pattytracey3131]

Cause Nassar had all the young girls he ever needed.

[@tarannumalikhan3075]

These kid’s parents failed them too

[@robertsterling951]

That’s dumb

[@313Tekno]

Pizz off and sit and twist

[@wildwest1832]

Its amazing he did it that many times, and not one girl was like why the F is he touching my junk? lol. What does touching someones privates have to do with medicine? sheesh

[@sheedee2]

My point exactly... like wtf!...

[@mygirldarby]

He told them it was a specific medical procedure that was done to release tightness in the muscles. There actually is a procedure in which this is done, but it is rare and it isn't done on girls, only women. They were little girls and didn't know any different. It os not "amazing" that innocent girls didn't know.

[@mygirldarby]

​@@sheedee2 nice way to blame little girls. Wtf

[@computerize]

why is there more dislikes than views? lol

[@basedgodstrugglin]

I think it might be bots that think 60 minutes is fake news

[@CSgtDad]

Of course someone is going to bring politics into something that isn’t. Good Lord

[@CSgtDad]

@@jaybrookfield6823 no I’m not sure who it was but they said something about being a Democrats or republican and that’s why. Not sure who even said it. No believe me. I was being sarcastic bc it’s not about politics. It’s about a monster that assaulted over 200 girls and that’s all it should be about.

[@CSgtDad]

@@jaybrookfield6823 thank you. That was nice of you to say

[@steveedward7572]

Put money first. _800,000,000 Dollars.

[@basedgodstrugglin]

If USA gymnastics isn’t pro gymnastics then who is the governing body for pro gymnasts?

[@morganlingham7134]

USAG

[@djdavis6837]

They oversee all of American gymnastics

[@ЛюдмилаБарановская-м8й]

Класны спорт палезна❤❤

[@DDurk9]

It's hard to believe that not one of these girls spoke about the specifics of this "treatment".

[@bestgirl3380]

That's an issue I got to agree. If a movie like cuties can be made, allegedly to encourage conversation on these topics, then the gymnasts should be encouraged to tell their story. It would make many uncomfortable... but it's the truth!

[@mygirldarby]

The one who did were told it was leginit,ate, medical procedure.

[@BUDDYSHADOW]

2:28 "NOOOOOO!!!! Don't take me to Larry!!! He has his hand out!!! NOOOO!!"

[@papabilby8855]

This sounds a lot like what Biden’s accuser said he did to her.

[@mytoesarecold5555]

& exactly what Trump said that he _DID_ do, when he was bragging on that Access Hollywood bus.

[@papabilby8855]

@@mytoesarecold5555 You ain’t black if you didn’t vote for Biden.

[@mygirldarby]

Wrf? You are confused. That was Trump. He is a known rapist. His wife Ivana said he raped her too.

[@BUDDYSHADOW]

Would these athletes have made it without Nassar?

[@nikhilananth4383]

wtf are you smoking, he is a criminal.

[@kyraweech9117]

Yes. He didn’t train them he didn’t coach them and he didn’t give them their abilities.

[@Drj-69]

Oh great, Senator Feinstein, the most senile member of Congress. I am sure she was a big help....

[@sneezabonk]

This comment didn't age well.

[@Drj-69]

@sneezabonk That was the whole point of the comment. She was way too old to be in the senate. She was worthless her last several years in the senate because she did not even understand what time of day it was, let alone any complex issues facing our country... I believed it aged perfectly...

[@mygirldarby]

Ronald Reagan got lost in the west wing and barely knew his own name during his presidency.