6mm ARC Terminal Test - The Little Cartridge that Could?

Can a cute little cartridge like the 6mm ARC be an effective deer killer? That’s what we’re going to find out. Mark Boardman and Ryan Muckenhirn test a factory load, handloads with multiple projectiles, and shoot gel out to 300 yards. The results may surprise you.
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[@chadbarth-hj4kb]

FINALLY! A long range gel test, Ryan is one of a very few KZbinr that emphasizes the down range effects of bullets. This could be a really genius idea for a whole series of videos. Something that I’m really interested in, MORE PLEASE!

[@stuartbrown2189]

i want to see the 6.5 grendel tested

[@jeffharper4572]

Me too!

[@brandiwynter]

Me three!

[@dr.froghopper6711]

Ditto!

[@RobTipper91]

22 arc, 224 valkyrie, 6 arc, and 6.5 grendel are the intermediate versions of the 308 family lol. Side by side, they're all hard to distinguish because they use the same parent case. I would love to see a head to head of all 4.

[@user-gl7pf5yv7m]

Me too

[@MrTacklebury]

My 6.5 Grendel with the 129 gr. Accubond LR is an awesome combo.

[@mostpopularpresidentever]

The 6 Arc and the 8.6 blackout are the only two cartidges to have come out in recent years that piqued my interest enough to build and i definitely have zero regrets for either

[@essaarif7941]

You seen 338 arc?

[@johnkaz614]

I would have liked to see the Hornady 90gr CX bullet.

[@LRRPFco52]

As I run the numbers on it, it does really well for being flat and minimal wind drift-affected. But 97gr Hammer in the Grendel beats it: 4400ft elevation 59˚F 2.7” optic height 6.5 Grendel 97gr Hammer 3050-3150fps 24” AR, 2910-3010fps 18” AR 2910fps 400yds 2035fps 892ft-lbs 1.7 mils drop / 1 mil wind 6mm ARC 90gr CX 2780-2880fps 24” AR, 2650-2750fps 18” AR 2750fps 400yds 1949fps 759ft-lbs 1.9 mils drop / 1 mil drift Shooter won’t see the difference behind the gun. Not sure how either bullet does at 400yds at this point. For terminal performance, the 105gr MKZ 6.5mm is the one to beat in that weight class though. Brutal little boat motor that peels open very wide and stays together most of the time, double caliber expansion down to 1500fps impact speed. Has a really high BC as well for a 105gr monolith.

[@bretteddy2537]

Nice work Gents, great to see the tipped Gameking being tested, I use it in a 6.5 cm, is extremely accurate.

[@josiahwise6160]

Got a Howa Carbon Stalker in 6ARC a few months ago, been a dream to shoot and I’m super impressed by the ballistics in this little package. Hoping to get to test it during deer season.

[@michaelcervantez3570]

Same here. If you don't like the polymer trigger guard and magazine well, Jefferson makes an aluminum replacement. With scope and rings my Stalker only weighs 6 pounds total.

[@lukeydukey15]

hows the howa treating you i wanted to pick one up but i heard of some issues they were having and decicided to hold off

[@michaelcervantez3570]

@@lukeydukey15 ...Mines good. What issues?

[@josiahwise6160]

@@lukeydukey15no issues on mine. I don’t love the cheap feel of the factory bottom metal/mag, and the bolt isn’t as smooth as I’d expect on a $1000 setup but everything has functioned great

[@charltonlwalker]

I have the Howa Mini 6mm ARC in a B&C M40 stock. It’s shooting 10 shot groups at 1 MOA with my handloads. 3-5 shot groups are sub MOA. I have the 22” sporter barrel. Accuracy is best when I’m running the can. Great cartridge and I am doing the 108 ELDM handloads at 2685 FPS.

[@calebwhiteknives]

I’ve been in love with this cartridge since my first trip to the looong range with my Mk12(1200yds+). And then again even more enamored once I started deer hunting with it. My 10 yr old even took his first deer with it out of a Recce style rifle. Beautifully capable cartridge; which more companies need to start serving with ammo.

[@lankyjeep8432]

We need a 6.5 Grendel vs 6ARC comparison!! Both are great especially in bolt gun platforms for deer hunting inside 300yds, 6ARC is definitely flatter shooting but 6.5 Grendel carries a better frontal area and more energy up close

[@mikekropidlowski1237]

X2

[@mgabriel2636]

What is distance to energy cross over?

[@lankyjeep8432]

@@mgabriel2636using my 6.5 Grendel handload (120TTSX at 2525) vs Ryan’s 6ARC handload (80TTSX at 3080) my 6.5 Grendel has more energy at all distances but drops below 2000fps at 275yds vs Ryan’s 6ARC dropping below 2000 at 375yds, muzzle energy is nearly identical at 1699ft-lb for 6.5 Grendel, and 1685ft-lb for 6ARC, 6ARC wins in the drop category at all distances, it also wins in the windage category but only by .5in at 500yds in a 10mph cross wind

[@brandiwynter]

X3 That's exactly what I was going to say. I wouldn't trade my Grendel's for a 6mm but I suspect they will have similar results.

[@eskimoreloader]

I have both of 6.5 Grendel and 6mm ARC. I haven't shot 6.5 Grendel again 😂

[@benbreakfast4314]

6mm creedmoor is a better comparison to 243, but if people want to know more about 6mm arc, Wade at TPH podcast has put out a ton of information

[@JohnHabbinga]

Thanks for doing a deep dive on the 6mm ARC, especially on hand loads for hunting. It is a cartridge that really shines in bolt action rifles.

[@Wildbill0341]

You guys made me a 6ARC believer! Got myself a howa barreled action after Ryan's "stick rifle" video and can't wait to take it in the woods this season!

[@johncarroll3089]

At the time Ryan bit this Carbon stocked Howa mini action, we talked and opted for the 6.5 Grendel. So glad to see his “results” as he has developed loads. Not being a hand loader I have to rely on factory Grendel loads. All good because this vid gives me confidence in the TGK and the LRX. Lovely… just lovely. 2:53

[@steffen707-]

You've arrived! Production team gets sweaty now! 😂🎉

[@christopheroleary2512]

Thank you for the great video! I have been eyeing the mini fix in 6 arc… this solidifies my opinion!!

[@doneime875]

My 6ARC gas gun is likely my favorite rifle to shoot. Incredibly accurate and just a joy. The pandemic really shut this cartridge down but man I sure hope it gains traction and takes off. It deserves it!

[@MrHf4l]

This was TREMENDOUS content, guys! The timing of this video couldn’t have been better. Thank you for shooting at 300yds as well. I’m a huge fan of Barnes, as Ryan is, however I would argue that the 90 LRX in the 6ARC at 300yds on game is not sufficient. Penetration was awesome but permanent and temp wouldn’t channels aren’t great. I like deer to drop as quickly as possible. I’m not confident a deer wouldn’t run a couple hundred yds on to my neighbors property with this combo. 90 TGK for me.

[@jerrysmith9935]

just another test on how good factory hornady ammo is straight out of the box put in gun and is spot on that eldx bullet is spot on at anything you put it in. great test guys

[@claymiller9192]

Just put my 6 ARC together. Howa 1500 mini on a MDT chassis. Really excited about it for the upcoming coyote season. I have shot a few rounds of the 3 Hornady offerings for cartridges. Really haven’t picked a favorite. But it shoots all 3 fairly well. Thanks for the video. Enjoyed it.

[@kbowen2251]

Ryan needs to go visit Texas predator hunting to talk about the 6 ARC with Wade for an hour or so 😂 then they need to go on a coyote hunt together with them!

[@chadperry4021]

Yes.

[@jaredandrews379]

Yes!

[@joeltucker5488]

AGREED!

[@shanejacobson2834]

Oh man - yes!!

[@B_mount]

YEP

[@danemadsen3908]

Mountains Mullets and Merica did a KZbin video on the 6Arc. Awesome job.

[@dallasweber7692]

Excellent Footage. Keep It Coming.

[@jaredandrews379]

6 arc is an awesome little cartridge!

[@jonathangagnon6261]

Great video like always! Can’t wait for the podcast for even more info! You guys always do great at provide detailed information with unbiased opinions!

[@jimanderson1154]

Awesome video guys!! After seeing the video some months ago, where Ryan bought his Howa, I picked up a Howa Mini (not the carbon) also in 6ARC. It HATES the 80 grain ELD VTs, but shot the 75 grain Vmax into sub 1/2 minute on the first try. I’ve been waiting on this video to help decide on a big game bullet. Was leaning towards the 95 grain LRX and I think y’all confirmed it for me. Great job!!

[@denverkwiatkowski3378]

Love both my howa arc and grendel.

[@neilstripling64]

Hello Vortex Nation, Mr. Muckenhirn just want to say u inspired me last year, I was in the mist of a custom build. An decided to build a 6 arc. Its a Zermatt origin with proof carbon 1:7.5 22" in a KRG bravo. I took a doe with an 95 gr VLD Berger last year. I have Recently have tested some 90CX with 31.1 gr of CFE223 velocity are avg 3042. I hope it preforms for me like the Barnes LRX y'all have tested. Still waiting on my Texas draw results but hoping to get a chance to get a mulie for the season. Wish you best of luck on yours.

[@flawedchemical]

I just built a 6ARC gas gun. Loving it so far. I’m gonna have to buy a reloading setup just to be able to run the lighter projectiles.

[@joeyzagari4155]

I love it for next step light recoil above 223 and high bc. I think all the ballistic glamorising is centred at the 100+ high bc grainers.

[@gpdykstra]

Great info! I do wish that you had compared the bolt loadings to the gas gun loadings since you had it available.

[@NicoRas-i2f]

Awesome video, would love to see more of these style videos. Big fan of this channel.

[@DStein-jn9ls]

Love this style of video! Thank you.

[@willmilby3902]

More of these type of videos for the cartridge talks even if it's a head to head to head to help out the team for less shoot days

[@jimbonds9654]

I’ve been waiting for this since Ryan first announced he was “flirting” with the cartridge years ago. I loved this episode.

[@rustyshackleford2723]

Will there be a holiday cartridge talk? Or some other holiday talks. The holidays are way better with your talks! 30 minute talks that go long😂😊

[@stephenadams8584]

Yep , I couldn’t agree more. I’ve got a couple gas guns and then I thought a bolt gun would be nice so I’m not loosing cases out in the field . I went with the Howa mini also but I chose the 20” bull barrel and put it in a Trybe “chassis” from Optics planet . I like the little Howa so mich I bought a 300 blackout and a 6.5 Grendel all with the bull barrel . I started with the 80 Grn TTSX then got a smoking deal on 500 Ct of Berger 87 Grn VLD hunting bullets , then got another deal on the Sierra 90 Grn tipped game king and I wanna say I bought 800 of those . So I’m set for hunting bullets for hogs , whitetail , Axis and whatever else tempts me . Thanks for the long range gel I particularly enjoyed that and would love to see more . 6.5 Grendel , 6.5 CM would be top on my list . I’ve also got a 6mm Remington and probably going with a 6mm GT next z thanks for the informative video look fwd to more

[@joewilson3519]

Very interesting. While playing with load development for the Howa Mini, I ended up shooting the TGK and the LRX as go to bullets. Loved seeing the gel tests. I ended at 2880 with the LRX and 2900 with the TGK… very similar to your loadings. TGK seems like the king of versatility. The LRX will be my go to when harvesting protein 👌

[@TimLeohner-bc3ty]

Thanks for the data. I got a white tail and a black bear last season with a 6 arc ar I built. Both 1 shot kills. Shot placement is key.

[@DRCcalls]

Very nice gentlemen! Great episode!

[@Duckhunterbow]

Tyler Freel just got a moose with a 22arc with the 88gr ELDm. 6ARC with the ELDM/X would be fine for deer.

[@jeffpracht3534]

Ive been so interestes in yhe 6 arc and am definitely going to get one. I just really wished that after a couple years if popularity that big name manufacturers would have more factory options already. But still in love with the idea if the ARC

[@balaton1]

I love my 6ARC Howa mini 1500 w/ hand loads in 108ELDM's! (Inspired purchase from Ryan's video of the same action.) Super fun. Kicks like club soda. Sitting on top is a Vortex Venom-nom-nom. :D

[@jmgates09]

After getting a 25wssm ive seen my 300wsm n 7wsm are not really needed for white tail atleast out to 300 yds the 115gr berger vld is devastating n 6 arc will be a good round for me since 25wssm ammo n brass is hard to find n the wife will love to shoot it just having a hard time on 6arc or 22arc

[@LRRPFco52]

I love 25 WSSM, but brass availability really makes it hard to feed. Once you go down in projectile weight with 6.5 Grendel, you get some pretty crazy speeds though for the same applications you might use the 25 WSSM. 80gr Hammer is one of them. 105gr MKZ is lightning-deadly as well.

[@mckimmym]

I’m telling Hornady that you didn’t hand load and test the ELDX at 300. You’re gonna be in so much trouble! @hornady get em Jayden!

[@steffen707-]

😂

[@dr.froghopper6711]

There goes your birthday!

[@natenotabot1234]

For those interested in a Gas Gun Loading with the 90Gr STGK (since nobody has it listed) Gas Gun Loading not published with any Reloading company. >400 rounds tested. 18” Barrel 82F° 2630 FPS 16” Barrel 92°F 2615 FPS 90gr Sierra Game Changer 26.5gr Hogdon Benchmark Federal GM205 SRP Starline Brass We tested a 26.8gr loading, and gained 40 FPS, but it showed ejector swiping and you could feel the difference. So we’re running 26.5 because it’s a safe bet. I will likely try to work it up by another 0.2 gr down the road. Other powders I tried: 27.8 varget came in at 2568 FPS

[@JamesWalker-ng1qh]

Finally got some of the 90gr TGKs to load in the ARC, haven't loaded then yet but I've been running 165gr TGKs in my 300WSM for years now and couldn't be happier.

[@Judahcruzer]

Yup I would definitely love to see a 6.5 grendel vs 6 arc comparison. 6 arc seems like a great little round, but if factory ammo is harder to find and more expensive, is it worth it?

[@Honkers716]

Local store has 105gr BTHP for $40/box in 6 arc. 103gr eld-x are $45/box

[@LRRPFco52]

100gr 6.5mm ELD-VT Grendel delivers 6mm ARC performance out of much shorter barrels in Grendel. The speeds you see in this video are normal for 16-18" Grendel AR-15s in those weights.

[@mckimmym]

I hand loaded the 103 eldx for a 20” Howa. Got it goin 2900 with leverevolution.

[@skippygus73]

I've got all of these loaded in a gas gun with an 18" Odin. GK and ttsx are primary loads. 2800ish with ttsx and 2890 on GK. Nose and lrx don't group as good for me.

[@smallbatchprecision2791]

In addition to the efficiency of the 6ARC, one thing you forgot to mention is the typical rate of twist in a .243WIN will generally limit projectile options. In saying that, the 80GR TTSX, 85GR TSX or a 100GR traditional soft point boat tail would be just about identical in performance to what you tested. The plus side for a .243 is you can pick em up off the shelf just about anywhere.

[@drdes9609]

I have a 6arc in an ar and regret it. Its very touchy with the adjustable gas block and I think it’s much better in a bolt action. Both 6arc and 6.5 Grendel are great cartridges though and in my mind the premier youth cartridge.

[@jaredconrad7075]

Beyond stoked to see Ryan's howa mini in action. The original video convinced me the mini in 6.5 grendel would be the perfect first deer rifle for my boy. Sometimes I wish I'd home 6 arc. I'm guessing the release of this video will only strengthen that wish.

[@RJBiteanerd]

I've never worked with Howa actions but it could be possible to just swap the barrel. It uses the same parent case as the 6.5 Grendel so the bolt is the same.

[@jaredconrad7075]

@@RJBiteanerd honestly they are budget friendly enough if I really saw justifiable benefit to 6 ARC over the grendel I'd just have one in both. In an reality it's for a youth. Hunter so the range limit imposed by that factor prolly keeps the grendel the leader. Just wish Sierra would drop some tipped game king's more in it's wheel house. I have 130s to load for creedmoor

[@LRRPFco52]

The 80gr, 85gr, 90gr, 95gr, 100gr, 105gr, 107gr, and 110gr go a lot faster from Grendel without chasing pressure, enough to match or exceed any BC advantages the 6mm has. Then you can load or buy 115gr, 120gr, 123gr, 125gr, 127gr, 129gr, 130gr, 135gr, 140gr, etc. in Grendel.

[@dougkahler7152]

I bought a gas gun as soon as I heard about this cartridge. I bought a match grade barrel. It’s so accurate that other than being way to heavy it’s a fantastic rifle. I’m waiting till Howa makes it in a 24 inch bolt gun before I buy a bolt gun.

[@kurtisbaker1809]

I'd like to see you guys load up some 90gr Hammer Hunter Tipped bullets and compare it to the 95gr LRT load that Ryan likes so well. Recommend hitting up the Hammer folks for load data.

[@jackdye4266]

I'm already invested in the 6.5 Grendel and will stick with it, if I didn't have it then I would look closer at the 6 ARC,

[@Longshothawk]

I hope you take the 6 arc or 22 arc and compare it to the creedmoor family in long and short barrels. Same bullets but using powders appropriate to the cartridge. Or just factory loads of same bullet. Will the small cartridge that generally uses faster powders hold it velocity better than the larger/slower powder creedmoors in a short barrel?

[@gregweever5895]

This was such a good test. It makes me think better things for my arc.

[@StacyandSheilaOgle]

Really need to try the Speer 100 SPBT they are incredible and very accurate out of my carbon stalker

[@jacobbrazell8684]

I really wish you guys would’ve tested the Hornady ELDM and some Berger options. In all the studies that I’ve seen, they give a bigger permanent wound channel than the bullets tested in this video.

[@josephlong7420]

Im a fan of the 6 arc. I think its about as close to a Goldilocks hunting cartridge as one can get. From varmint with a 58 grain up to mule deer with 100+grain bullets, at reasonable distances.

[@CCH-R]

Yeah just like 243. It’s why they are popular!

[@Treid323]

I would be really curious to see what the 90 grain CX bullet from hornady would do, the 90 grains seem to keep up the velocity but have the monolithic design

[@elitearchery]

Like this cartridge. Would like to see more

[@charltonlwalker]

I’m hunting with the 108 ELDM out of my Howa Mini 6 ARC. My handloads exceed the KE of a Hornady American Whitetail 243 load at 350 yards.

[@claytonsharp3571]

I just recently got into the 6 arc when I started building different caliber ar’s for coyote hunting and I’d love to see what you and Ryan could come up with for a loading on it!? I just recently purchased my dies and then picked up some 65 and 75 grain Hornady v-max projectiles and I’m going to see how they do! Also I’d love to see a cartridge talk on the 22 tcm and 21 sharp the new cartridge from Winchester! I’m a huge fan of the cartridge talks and love hearing what Ryan has to say about them! He’s the reason I picked up a 12-36 diamondback spotting scope and got into deer hunting!

[@wolchcir]

I have this in CMMG AR, and I REALLY, want to see some 65 to 75 grain loads for coyote hunting. 3200 -3400 fps muzzle speeds for long range. Would love a video!!

[@superdave103harley]

I agree sir The highwayman is the greatest song ever!!!! Mark rulz!!

[@Imago1Dei]

Great video! What was the barrel twist? Sorry if I didn't catch it.

[@SpudOutdoors]

Should have tested the cavity back bullets. Awesome bullets

[@kylewalton7005]

dude i got that new razor spotting scope a few weeks ago and absolutely love it. it is a little heavier than expected but the size is awesome. also i wish vortex had a replacement arca head for the pro gt tripod.

[@williamjarman7466]

The build quality of the rifle is not super high, but they shoot really well and extremely light. It's a dream mt. gun for deer.

[@kenbrown873]

I would have loved to see a hand load of the Hornady bullet.

[@jasonbullard9758]

Great video and great shooting. Are those the “factory” included Howa rings?

[@chadperry4021]

Can’t press like fast enough. Great topic.

[@GeirMeyer]

Love the video you guys make.. Please keep up with it..

[@Pompomgrenade]

😮 Very few expenses were spared in the making of your video! That child size Howa, 😅 Seems like a great little truck gun...

[@jfess1911]

Have you guys managed to get the Dreaded Belted Case with the AR yet? That is a learning curve the Grendel guys went through. Getting the pressure up and a little too much gas and odd things happen to that case. It looks like Hornady uses a thicker case wall near the base now, so maybe that will reduce the problem.

[@LRRPFco52]

I’ve been loading for and shooting Grendel since 2009 and only saw it once when I used too much Imperial sizing wax on one piece of brass in the sizing process. I have seen it with a friend’s 2000s-era 28” AA RLGS Grendel, due to it having too much plug dwell time. This will happen with any cartridge in the AR-15 though when you have too fast of a cyclic rate and the extraction process happens way too early when there’s still residual chamber pressure.

[@jfess1911]

@@LRRPFco52 I knew it was often a timing issue (early extraction) but didn't go into details. It seems that pushing the pressures is often a factor and sometimes just backing down on the load solves the problem. In the roughly 20 years I have been following the Grendel this seems to pop up every now and then. Bill Alexander and someone with a moniker similar to yours responded to this issue in a a thread a couple of years ago (Sniper's Hide maybe?). There was a very good detailed explanation..

[@dallasweber7692]

My Favorite. I Have 4 Of Them. However To Each Their Own.

[@ryancarter1152]

Can yall test the BTHP Game King I love this bullet thanks

[@Pompomgrenade]

Yeah, the heavies keep energy potential deeper into trajectory❤ That's what she said

[@stefanandermann7864]

What stock are you using here with the howa action? Thx. Great info.

[@Skyhawks1979]

Plenty of other cartridges I'd rather dear hunt with out of a bolt gun. However, I love this calibre in an AR-15 size weapon. Purchased one last year. If I had to downsize to a single rifle for my needs it would be the AR-15 in 6mm ARC.

[@jreed10291974]

Lever powder is your friend in 6 ARC. 90 ELD-X 3122 fps from a 22 inch barrel. 100 grain 3089 fps give or take depends on which bullet 103 ELD-X closer to 3100 to 3120 fps. never had a pig or deer get back up.

[@jerrymartin5100]

Try the Nosler Partition

[@dr.froghopper6711]

I like the Barnes TTSX because it’s basically a blender going through the animal

[@Mafiaal1]

The 103 ELDx at close range loaded to muzzle velocity of 2810 i can tell you it will work but not hold together that great as the interlock ring is more forward on the ELDx. I would look at the 90grain CX.

[@tjbarkley727]

I’m so excited about this one!

[@HB-kp6rl]

Yall need to get Jayden Q from Hornady on the show

[@mfallen2023]

If there's anything the world needs, it's more Hornady marketing nonsense

[@phild9813]

I don’t think they do. No offense to Hornady, but we hear nothing but Hornady talking points all the time. Gimme a WSM or a 6.5 Grendel please.

[@nicholasrice1071]

Now I'm interested but tell me are they going to go the max grain weight for 6mm in the Arc? Handloaders can get heavy for caliber and thus more power out of 6mmrem and .243 win but I've never seen 120grain dtac for .243 win even out the factory. Yet several reload manuals can go that heavy and you can find bullets to reload or hand rolling you own. The energy for larger game has me drooling if it could be done. I'm crazy enough to believe it can be done.

[@NoggsPhoto]

9:05 Mark "Impact" Ryan, "I know"...Cameraman Laughs 😂

[@trg3761]

Would have liked to have seen the 80 gr and 90 CX in the testing. I'll stick with the 243W cos i know i get 3250/3280 with 90 gr out of 24" barrel with H4831

[@LRRPFco52]

6.5 Grendel with 80gr Hammer HT will do 3150fps from a 22-24" AR-15, with 10-12k psi less than the .243 Win and only ~29-32gr of powder.

[@Eric-bh7jy]

6mm creedmor. The podcasts with Forum give some compelling information that a small caliber would make more sense that th big stuff. Even for larger game like Elk. Should shoot the gel at 600 yds and see.

[@CCH-R]

Honest question. If I have a 243 is it worth getting this? Or just run the 243?

[@Pompomgrenade]

I had a 243 now converted to 308.. My friends used to make fun of me for the 243 being a barrel burner... But really I only upped to 308, for the test of gunsmithing comprehension...😂

[@JohnSanders-p7o]

I ve been waiting for this!!

[@jacobnoe5899]

I just want you to show me the difference between the 6mm arc and a 243 Winchester in a bolt gun. The arc has a shorter action of course but when you are taking follow-up shots on game do you actually perceive how far back the bolt goes? The 243 is around 200 fps faster than the arc in factory loadings which is what most people shoot. The only advantage of the arc is less powder when you reload. Then you are getting close to a 243 Winchester with less powder I’m just not sure what the big deal is with the 6mm arc other than being in a AR-15 platform.

[@LRRPFco52]

Self-spotting/sight picture management, recoil energy, overall rifle weight/balance. .243 Win is wasting a lot of powder with a non-optimum case design. It's too long for what it does, mainly the propellant column is too long with too shallow of a shoulder angle. Notice that the Dasher will achieve similar performance.

[@hawaiianhunter]

I want to see the 6.5 Grendel in a bolt gun tested please 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@scottythebody0811]

I’m so glad they came out with the 6mm ARC, my 243 won’t kill anything.

[@rolliskarvellis6254]

Talking about 10x scopes, it would be nice if Vortex made a fixed 10 that falls between the SWFA 10X, and the U.S. Optics 10x. Thanks for the video!

[@donspears6557]

Excellent

[@Ringtail273]

Now that’s a sweet rifle!