7.3 Godzilla...sucks at towing....I wouldn't? ford f250, f350 superduty.

my thoughts on towing. all this build up and was it a let down or what? more, 3,towing videos coming soon. I know before

[@jacksonlangford8361]

I have a 2021 F250 7.3 with 4.30 gears just turned 50,000 miles I pull 8000 to 12000lbs weekly no problems love this engine!

[@gregorylyon1004]

Thank you for stating what gears you have for towing. Most people leave that out

[@macflyguy5166]

@@gregorylyon1004 same weekly heavy tower with the f250 godzilla. It's a monster. 60k no problems!

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Right on thanks for posting

[@mdubz101]

Just drove a 22’ brand new 7.3l “dogzilla” and it was a total sled. I’d avoid this toilet at all costs. Dealer was offering me 2k off from the rip, yet somehow the 6.7 diesel is still 10k mark up! 😂 screw ford.

[@JeepBigE]

​@@mdubz101 Definitely not a dog.

[@richvangorder3900]

No, egr, no dpf, no def, no expensive ass injectors, no turbos and none of the massive price tags associated with it when they go. And they will go. Only penalty is it likes gas like i like beer

[@PNWLiving1725]

I got the diesel. Wish I stayed with gas

[@Michael-ft3rc]

@@PNWLiving1725 said no one ever

[@CS-vw3db]

I mean, I agree. But you can't say no downsides, wait until these things hit 120-150k, gaurenteed to start popping.

[@arthurgersjes6539]

My brother's tremor 7.3 pulls 32' toyhauler with a buggy in trailer. Will lit up tires if he gets on it to quickly. 1$ less per gallon, no Def issues, no DPF crap. Mine on order. DONE WITH DIESEL PICKUPS

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Heck yeah!

[@heathjohnson673]

I have a f-250 tremor with the 7.3 430 gear ratio. I pull a 35ft 5th wheel camper that weights 15,500lbs with no problems. Never had a diesel, so the 7.3 pulls perfectly for me. I love this truck couldn't ask for better.

[@MNsparky]

I’ve never had a diesel either. Will be hard to justify one when today’s gas trucks are capable up to 20k.

[@BrianPCook]

Same here, I have zero complaints with that motor. I'm pulling 42' 5th wheel at 16,000 lbs (F350)

[@catztruck929]

@@MNsparkycorrect. If ones lifestyle or business doesn’t justify a diesel, stay away from them, IMO. (Unless ur a kick ass diesel tech that don’t mind working on it, then do what u wish I guess). Gasoline engines have come a long way. Diesels have also come a long way but in the opposite direction thanks to emissions.

[@ND-tu7ww]

If you had a diesel you’d be singing a different tune. I’ve had both and would never pull those high profile and heavy loads with a gasser other than from one side of parking lot to other.

[@DLVRYMN]

Thanks for an honest and accurate assessment. I own a 2022 F350 7.3 with a 4:30 gear and am well pleased after 9 months.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Absolutely I appreciate you posting.

[@hd114ul7]

I have a Power stroke and a Godzilla. My Godzilla is my daily driver and tow vehicle of choice. Another big plus is the motor is not hidden under all the EPA garbage that causes most of the diesel headaches.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Absolutely 💯...!

[@mrs.waight7326]

Delete . Problem solved. Weld on the original exhaust tip for OEM look, put a muffler and it's quiet, leave the egr for esthetics 😂, leave the def fluid cap for remembrance 😆. Put a stock tune for no black smoke 🤓. Enjoy 19-20 mpg. More horses, and a sh*t ton more satisfied ride.

[@pineforest7528]

@@mrs.waight7326 Too bad it won't pass inspection any more.

[@mrs.waight7326]

@@pineforest7528 Haven't had an issue since 2016! Where do you live.? Obama, Hillary, Biden, go green, the sky is falling country? Here in God's country we think for ourselves. We're happy too. 🤔. Conformist are being lied to the same as us realist, the difference is we know better.

[@mrs.waight7326]

As well you do know that Ambulances, firetrucks and emergency responders with diesels here in parts of Tx. , Take that garbage off and delete,legally,,, because they idle the vehicle a lot and can't risk a breakdown? So they can but we can't? 😂. Hold my beer🍺. 😂

[@MrEliasdl]

As a proud owner of a 2000 Excursion V10, I applaud you for trying to bring common sense back to being a truck owner. It has always been about the right tool for the job. Not killing ants with sledgehammers. The Diesel crowd is quickly becoming the guy back in the day who lifted his truck with a body lift for no other purpose than to overcompensate. They rack up repair bills that rival house payments to fix all their diesel maintenance issues for a ton a power they likely never need to get the job done. That's the definition of overcompensation.

[@miketrentham6632]

A friend that we camp with has a 2022 F-350 dually, 4 door with this engine. He loves it. It pulls great. He got it because of all the DEF crap on the diesels and all the other related expense from a modern EPA diesel.

[@terrysaenz3009]

I pulled my 28' enclosed trailer loaded to 16k lbs from California to Missouri with no issues whatsoever. Other than the fuel mileage, the 7.3 gas is great at towing. Also the difference in the price of a diesel vs gas truck off sets the mpg.

[@betterthanideserve76]

Whatever you need to justify. I like the idea of the gas but soo many Godzilla 's are delaminating the camshafts so they have issues like our 6.7's. I for one will always go diesel even if not towing. I get 18 city, 24 highway and 13 towing 15k. No sweat uphill and love the exhaust brake downhill. Gas will kill the brakes regularly towing especially downhill

[@kevinarnold2601]

I’ve had multiple 6.7s and never seen 24 mpg.

[@betterthanideserve76]

@@kevinarnold2601 on a weight loss plan and a good shop you will. 24 highway at 70mph all day. 3.31 gearing, if you have never heard of 24 mph on a 6.7 then you do not read enough forums. Many with 3.55 gears get 20-21mpg's highway. Not hard to do if you stop choking them out with dpf's and egr's

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Heck yeah, thanks for posting!

[@Back_door_bandit_98]

@@betterthanideserve76 Lol I seen you say 24 mpg out of a 6.7 and instantly thought it has to be deleted yeah all modern diesels will reach high teens mid 20s mpg when deleted but you also throw away the 60-100k mile warranty.

[@barrywood8358]

I have a 2022 F350 super crew 7.3 and I pull 15000lb fifth wheel and it pulls like a dream!

[@claudeallen175]

60k on mine and no issues at all. The 10speed is matched perfect with this engine in tow haul mode.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Absolutely 💯!

[@bobtwining8335]

Nice (and I would say fair) review. I have a 2022 F250 Lariat with the 7.3 and have towed my 9K lb travel trailer over 24,000 miles, from the Midwest to the East Coast, to the Gulf Coast, to Arizona. I have not been over the Colorado Rockies yet but that is coming. Great truck, great engine, and the transmission has done a great job of maintaining speeds both up hill and down hill with the cruise control activated. The 2% failure rate from the cam and lifter problems is certainly something to keep an eye on but its my understanding the majority of those failures have been in commercial vehicles that idle a lot. I have experienced about 9.5 to 10 MPG while towing and about 16 MPG at highway speeds while not towing. In town I see about 10 MPG. However, considering the diesel is $8K more to purchase, has higher maintenance costs and only gets about 3 MPG better millage while towing, I think its a no brainer to go with this engine when you are towing less than 14K lbs.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Absolutely 💯

[@Cadbou]

You may change your mind after you get over the Rockies

[@theamericanglamper1911]

2020 7.3 pull 11500 toy hauler with 3.55 gears part time. Get 7-9mpg towing depending on weight of toy hauler and hills. Get avg 11mpg at 20k Get 13mpg around town. Get 16mpg highway with Lear topper and deck system in bed full of stuff not towing. Got 17mpg highway slick before adding weight. Had 5.4 150 and 6.2 250 before and this thing gets about same mpg with way more capability in payload and towing. Compare capability of old 7.3 diesel... No issues. Luv it.

[@nolandenton1224]

My 2020 Godzilla with the 10sp has done a great job towing my boat and my trailer. I'll be upgrading to a 5th wheel running about 12K lbs and have no qualms about keeping this truck to do it. I was one of the unlucky ones who had a transmission failure and it was over 10 weeks before Ford got it fixed but since getting it back it has been flawless.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

That's a bummer, but glad it worked out and you are enjoying it.

[@derekdyer3929]

This is exactly what i am looking to get hopefully in a few years. Glad to hear the 7.3 is getting some love. I was a bit concerned about going with the 7.3 vice the power stroke. I just don't need a diesel but I will need a truck that can easily tow. Never been a Ford fan but love my super charged 14 GT and really liking what the 2023 and up 250s have to offer.

[@grantd1011]

I have a 2021 f350 dually fx4, 7.3 with 4.30 gearing. Absolutely love it so far. I haul all kinds of stuff with mine. Skid steer, round bales of hay, tractors, etc. The tow mode does excellent at downshifting and engine braking for a gas engine. I love not having all that stupid diesel epa crap.

[@janolimit22]

I wanted to use it to tow skid steer too but dont want the diesel emissions crap

[@kylelanier3299]

I have a 2021 Class C RV with the 7.3 with 4.10s. I flat tow my Jeep and have no problems whatsoever. Couldn’t be happier.

[@armedmariner]

My 2022 F350 crew cab 8’ long bed 7.3 with 3.73 rear is the best truck I have ever owned. The engine is smooth as glass. It can peel the rear tires. The Super Duty frame is made to tow. This truck is great. I have 28,000 miles on it. No issues. Lifetime average mpg is 14.9 per the lie-o-meter. Most of my tows are utility trailers that any 1/2 ton can pull. I bought this particular truck because of the engine and the long bed and that 48 gal tank. And it is America and I can buy what I want. And the price of my truck XLT was less than my buddy’s Lariat F-150 with a 2.7 turbo. His truck is awesome for a 1/2 ton and he gets good mileage. It’s a Cadillac ride compared to my truck. But I can haul his truck with my truck. My only complaint with my truck is you can’t drink coffee on a bumpy road. It’s a safer truck too because you can’t be writing texts while driving on bumpy roads either! 😊

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Heck yeah! Thanks for posting, I get the coffee thing too!

[@berniemiller2054]

My F350 7.3 gas was delivered March 2020. I love it. I get 12 to 13 mpg back and forth to town ( 10 mile each way) and about 5 mpg while towing 15K gooseneck trailer up curvy 16 percent grade from a stop. There always seems to be plenty of power left over. It pulls so well. The truck has a little over 25K miles on it right now. Oil has always been changed every 5k or sooner. I will be seriously be looking at the oil from now on.

[@niceatrya3477]

Do you have the 3.73, or 4.30 axle ratio?

[@berniemiller2054]

3.73

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Heck yeah! Thanks for posting!

[@4RXLA]

I have a 3.55 and it tows my 8000lb trailer like Its not even there.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

@4RXLA heck yeah! Thanks for posting

[@roadglide1142]

I got 4.30 gears ⚙️ in my 2021 F-350 . It has pulled anything I’ve thrown at it & laughs 😂

[@gregorylyon1004]

A lot of people are complaining about towing problems. They weren't smart enough to get the 4:30 gears. They probably got the 3:55 for gas mileage. Lol

[@rickeydriskill1096]

​@Gregory Lyon with 10 gears in the trans you should not need to go that deep in gears.

[@robertpulliam9973]

I just moved from central FL to south central TN using a 26’ UHaul 2023 F650 with the 7.3 engine loaded to the “gills”. I’ve heard all the bad news, I’m not a Ford fan but this engine performed flawlessly, averaging 8.5 mpg at 70 mph. In normal interstate road conditions in FL and south GA the transmission didn’t downshift on the slight hills and the engine pulled over them just fine. On the downhill side the transmission (in tow/haul) held its gear and the engine braking held the 70 mph. Later as I got into north GA and TN the transmission would downshift one gear and the engine never rev’d over 3300 RPM, normal RPM at 70 mph was 2700 RPM. It made a believer out of me. I was dreading this move if I had to use a V10 powered truck because that engine was a flop from the start. Overhead cam engines don’t make good power until the higher RPM’s and by the that time you can’t stand to be inside the vehicle for the noise. I had that engine in a 1999 motor home that only got 4.6 mpg at 62 mph, and it weighed 6000 lbs less than than the Uhaul truck.

[@karatekid6026]

The last v10 i drove in a uhaul rocked. I think they have them dialed in. It got 10-11 mpg i had it loaded to hilt as well. even had a thirty x forty quanset hut and all mystuff 28 ft.

[@leolaprariemusic]

I have the 2020 7.3 F250 Lariet. 3.55 axle. I pull a 8,000 lb. Conventional camper with no problem what so ever. Living in Colorado, we have pulled up and down the Colorado Rockies with no issues. The cruise control, engine and transmission works like a champ. We pulled long haul to Yellowstone, and the Black Hills with no issues. Averages 10 mph towing the 8,000 lb. Camper, with 750 lbs. of cab occupants, and another 500 lbs. truck bed cargo. The 7.3 is a beast. I’m loving this truck so far.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

That's awesome, thanks for posting!

[@heavenswarrior26]

I totally love my. 7.3 I tow roughly 11,200 lbs fully loaded 5th wheel I could only find the truck with 3.55 gears but to my surprise, it still tows with ease.

[@gbaileyo7]

Thank you for a real world review not just repeating rumors!

[@bradmcmanis3231]

Love my 2022 Godzilla 7.3 with 3:55 gears pulls my 2022 dune sport toyhauler 26ft cbb fully loaded just fine 13,500 ILL NEVER OWN ANOTHER POWERSTROKE DIESEL AGAIN And I traded in a 2013 6.7 f450 4wd witch broke on me a 100,000 miles LOVE THIS TRUCK

[@jeffro582]

Be interesting to see if your 7.3 breaks before 100k...

[@techs1smh13]

​@@jeffro582 it will 👍

[@2023TMc]

Haters will hate. Diesel does have more power but it comes at a mighty high cost these days!

[@jakeemerick7250]

I have a diesel and it’s the way. The engine brake in the winter when towing in the hills, and the power to get over them with no problem makes the difference. Dump trailer of gravel, lumber, mini excavators, the diesel does it all. It also holds up better under load overtime. It’s really an entirely different vehicle under the body. Heavier duty all around and holds up better to strain. I’ll buy more trucks as I continue to grow the company but this truck will be around for quite a bit and still running well. Not bad for 35,000 and 75,000 miles for a 2019. Perhaps some of the earlier diesels with the emissions systems had issues but these have been around for a few years and the engineering is good by now that with proper operation it’s more of a hyped up concern.

[@Hector-iw7rp]

I’m trying to decide here diesel or this engine in particular and for a moment you got me with a bad review of this engine 😢now I’m glad that you are happy with it because to me that I not tow everyday I don’t really need a diesel engine so thanks buddy for your honest review

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Absolutely.....I think the l8t chevy gas hd is the best teuck for 24. But the godzilla in good configuration can do tons of work and the ford seats are softer and the truck is easier to see out of.

[@DillonPrecisionFan]

Appreciate the video, people need to learn the difference between power and torque. The 7.3 Godzilla makes 430 HP and the 6.7 Powerstroke makes 475 HP. The higher torque of the diesel allows it to make max HP at a lower RPM....power is power...just depends what RPM it is at.

[@DillonPrecisionFan]

@@JD.307 yep, HP is calculated, torque is measured!

[@ND-tu7ww]

Hp is not what’s getting you over that mountain pulling 25k lbs. torque is.

[@neilkratzer3182]

Let me tell you what a master mechanic that sees all types of vehicles and works on every model. The design of the motor is simple a basic almost old school. He's already seen these trucks used hard in our area and no failures with 10,000's of thousands of miles already. No power compared to what. The old 7.3 diesels only had 225 hp stock and no more torque than this gas. All manufacturers have parts failures unfortunately. Heck you can put a new engine in this truck cheaper than replacing injection system on a 6.7

[@philipking8426]

I have a 2020 250 w/godzilla. I loaded 5 yards of wet sand in a 14,000 pound dump trailer. It broke the trailer spring and ground the tire into the trailer. I drove 80 miles and could not tell the trailer was behind me. I ordered the new 2023 F-250 w/godzilla and it should be delivered in a few weeks. I cant wait.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Awesome, congrats on the new rig..thanks for posting

[@christophermcmichael880]

I'm quite a few months late commenting but todays diesels, they're an engine that you get if it's going to pay for themselves. I just recently purchased an F350 with the 7.3 and 3:73 rear. It's a bit more truck than I wanted and I rarely tow anything. I originally wanted an F250 with the 6.8 for the redundancy that 1/2 tons now days don't seem to have anymore.

[@freedom_father]

I pulled my 32 ft camper from Colorado through the mountains to Texas. Passing people the whole way! No issues! Plenty of power.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Heck yeah! Thanks for posting

[@roundsm18]

We’ve had a few different trucks over time. 7.3 gasser has been impressive for us at least. We went from a 460 to a diesel to a minor misadventure with a GM that was worthless. We’re half ton towable. We’re back to Ford because I just like being able to get out of third gear at 8,000 lbs and I like not being below 30 on a 4% grade.

[@philipbielarski3762]

You scared me at first! LOL! I just bought a 7.3L F250 and haven't towed with it yet but have hauled a full bed and love it! Diesel is $1.05 more per gallon where I live. If a diesel averages 19mpg and my 7.3 Godzilla averages 13.5 mpg, I spend about ONE PENNY per mile more in fuel to drive the gasser. I can buy lots of gas for $10,000 at 1 cent per mile. Then factor in Oil changes, DEF, and other diesel maintenance and there is way more cost difference. Now if I was towing heavy regularly, I could justify a diesel, but my 7.3 Godzilla is my currently my daily driver.

[@jdhunt1284]

I’ve got that engine in my 2020 coach. Just turned 60k. Never had a single issue, been solid.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Excellent, thanks for posting.

[@RJPovio]

Just curious what interval are you changing the oil on your 2020?

[@JMcIntyre417]

Got one a month ago in an F450 with a Reading enclosed body and a lift gate. I'm in love so far. I haven't weighed it fully loaded with tools and materials, but it does not feel it at all. Mine has 4:88 gears and I'm at 10.5 mpg and she has some snot to get up and go.

[@markbergthold6181]

I have a 21 F350 Lariat crew 4x SB SRW 7.3L. We tow a 7k# 30’ bumper pull trailer. We’re pleased, 26k miles on engine, no issues.

[@johncleveland3263]

22 XLT F250 bought in December of 21. I pull 8k-10k nearly every week, often over 4500ft pass and I love it. I had a 7.3 King Ranch years ago and Gojira is every bit what that truck was and more.

[@mdubz101]

I do not know how you can say that. I had an 02’ f350 7.3 diesel and it would plant you in your seat 😮 test drive a single cab dogzilla today and it was a total sled. Getting on the highway it wouldn’t move! Felt like 5 minutes to get to 65! Brought it right back.

[@patmason7276]

Just like the 3.5 ecoboost. People were ready to right off this engine. I'll put my 3.5 against any v8 in towing!!! Good choice love the 7.3.

[@tzford1]

I have a 2022 I pull my gooseneck trailer with cat skid steer with a total weight of right close 17,000lbs in the mountains not hills 3 miles 9%grade with no problem

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

That's sweet! Thanks for posting!

[@OkieProductions]

dont listen to the nay sayers. I wish people would make their own decisions based on actual experience instead of watching videos and making decisions. I love my 7.3 and it tows as fast as you should be towing. People that need more power are doing things they shouldn't. Enjoy the truck and make some camping memories.

[@ernestjohnson1807]

People are just telling you, you are buying a lotto ticket when you buy a ford. Most the time you loose. Mostly money hand over fist. But the front deathwabble can be dangerous. With the potential to kill a family member.

[@ND-tu7ww]

Wish the same for people that say the gas motor is fine and don’t need a diesel yet have never owned a diesel. Own both then comment. No doubt the gas motor has its place. I’m on fence but when I pull a small cargo trailer with Durango hellcat (more HP and TQ then Godzilla) with it being much lighter then pull same trailer with f450 it’s like night and day. Had many big block gas motors in my day both forced induction and natural. I’d never own a gas motor pulling large profile heavy trailers. That’s diesel territory. Sometimes it’s not just the cost per mile but towing experience and safety (with downhill braking).

[@Jefforey]

Got a 86 f250 4x4 6.9idi ive freshly rebuilt my engine. Upgraded turbo and intercooler studded the head alot of other things r&d pump and injectors custom cam roller rockers new roller lifters port&polish new valve springs and alot of other goodies. C6 auto built transfercase rebuilt. I tow a 33ft fithwheel similar like yours. I go from mountains of Tennessee to donalsonville ga. Did it twice a year since 1990. It is a different animal now with all the upgrades.

[@Al-mu4ff]

Got a 2022 tow with it regularly and love it..

[@justindohrn858]

my 2021 f350 with 3.73 gears and the 7.3 is doing great, run it as a hotshot truck and now have 150 thousand miles on it, no problems but number two cylinder plug wire. im pulling 14 to 18 thousand pounds getting 9 to 11 mpg with it. in the rockys or a big head wind 7.5 to 9 mpg i also have different tires on it to help with mpg. been great truck

[@gregamoreno1]

I have a 2020 F350 SRW with pretty much the same set up. I’m in the RV transport industry and it has just turned 190k miles. It has no trouble idling at night at the truck stops, I don’t have to worry about fuel, additives anti-gel, or any other, the issues that come along with a diesel. I’ve had the same number two cylinder misfire and have had to changed out the plug wire. But that’s the only issue I’ve had. I do carry a couple of spare plug wires in my truck. I change the oil every 200 hours, the transmission, transfer case and diff every 40K miles. My next super duty will be with the 7.3 Godzilla.

[@justindohrn858]

@@gregamoreno1 they have finally upgraded the plug wires, now the superduty gets the same wires as the f450 and up. i put a house hold mini split in my truck with now 600 amp hours of lithium to run it, no more idling for me

[@brucedeleskey8540]

This Monday just got my new 250super duty 7.3 pulling a 6700 hundred poud camping trailer i traded my 2021 ford 250 stx 6.2 6speed and it pulled the camper much better and got all arund 15miles a gallon this new one XLT whith 268 miles on it is smother but thay are a gas ⛽ berner its made for work only it kick my self in the ass i traded it only had 54.000 on it so think twice before you get read of youer 6.2

[@HemiDad1963]

My local dealer has an F350 with that 7.3 engine. I’m very close to buying it. It’s a nice looking truck.

[@anthonysgarage]

I think there's a strong possibility that the cam & lifter failures might be due to low oil pressure at idle, and have a lotta idle time on them. They have a strange variable volume oil pump on them. Perhaps there's a simple way to bump the oil pressure up should that be the case. Hopefully we get a solid answer soon.

[@ryantrott9529]

Could be but….if you look at the history of this problem it’s only one of them mostly that goes bad and at random points on the motor that fail. This leads me to believe it’s just a bad part.

[@ryantrott9529]

Also, ford isn’t the only ones with this problem. Dodge 6.4’s are doing it as well.

[@ryantrott9529]

Who knows..maybe some of the lifters have COVID…😂

[@anthonysgarage]

@@ryantrott9529 Well, at any rate, it seems that it's always been less than 1% of the 7.3L Godzilla engines produced, and even less in the later stuff. I'm just going to assume that the problem, whatever it is or was, has been resolved.

[@bryanharger6565]

great video thank you. Do you suggest the short bed or long bed for 5th wheel towing? Hard to tell this looks like short bed without slider hitch?

[@thomasguthrie5938]

Very interesting. My brother has a Godzilla in his motorhome and I'm waiting on his review. Glad to have watched yours. I have a 02 7.3 PSD E-350 and a 00 V-10 F-350 4x4. I pull a 28' toy hauler. I love the V-10 F-350. Tows like a mad dog. Didn’t even blink when taking on Teton Pass from Jackson Hole. I've just gotten used to 6 to 7 mpg. As far as the high rev's go, I attribute it to that V-10 kicking ass and taking names! Best truck I've ever owned.

[@sonnycook-xz9wj]

I pull a 12,000 lb fifth with f250 3.37 gears. Love it Better than the 2017 6.7 with less than 60,000 that burnt to the ground while driving. 410,000.00 lesd no more def no more 100.00 fuel filter changes more 17 qt of oil. Yes i will a less fuel mileage for the rest.

[@brianhummel899]

Each to their own, as a commercial truck driver i have a bias towards diesel motors because in my opinion, it is better to have more power and torque than necessary because if an engine doesn't have to work as hard it will last longer. I am not dismissing your like of the 7.3, however to get the same results as a diesel it will have to work harder. I am not trying to predict if it is a good motor or not, from my experience gas motors get worse fuel economy to do the same job and the motor works noticeably harder, not that it can't do it, but, there is a reason big rigs are diesel and not gas powered. Respectfully my opinion

[@DragnBarZ]

how is it up steep hills or in the mountains at highway speed around 65-70mph? one thing i hate is when the gas engines downshift and scream going up hills on the highway

[@nickberg4379]

Nobody actually owning and towing this 7.3 gas says anything bad about it. I have 20k on my 22 and is nothing short of amazing. Pulls much better than my old 2002 7.3 powerstroke.

[@andytaylor2321]

I hope so lol

[@DillonPrecisionFan]

The 2002 Powerstroke is rated at 505 lbft or 525 lbft at 1600 RPM (depending on trans). The Godzilla is over 400 lbft around 1500-1600 RPM (Ford dyno chat) with a much better transmission...so no wonder it tows better.

[@NoWay-xu1ie]

I have a 01 7.3 with some modes and it pulls darn good . But I wish I had at least a 6 spd. Trans. I'd like a new 7.3 but not till my old 7.3 fails. With only 188k miles it will out last me . I'm getting 9-11 mpg depending on the wind grossing 23.5k lbs.

[@mrs.waight7326]

The reason "nobody complains" about the 7.3 gas, is either they don't know any better or it's not true and there are complaints! Keep in mind this video is a complainer, and mentions many complaints... I've got the 6.7 Power house. Deleted. Stock tune. I'd compare trips face to face. Same load, same distance and win-win every time. On every front.

[@Fatboylo1980]

I have a 250 7.3. Tow a 10k travel trailer. She doesn’t break a sweat. I don’t think I’d want to go crazy heavy but for what I do it’s more than enough. I’ve towers 1000’s of miles. From mass to Florida. Can’t be happier

[@CrazyEye75]

Whoever says the 7.3 can't tow has rocks in their heads. I've pulled upto 18,000 with my 2013 6.2 with 3.73 gears no issue. Was a lil grumpy starting from a dead stop but did it no prob.

[@ASAP1002]

i have a 2020, I love mine too. pull my 28ft trailer with a 5055JD on it all the time, has plenty of get up and go! no problems at all. i had a diesel, i traded it for this. diesel is to expensive :) loved it too. but this a grate alternative to High Diesel prices.

[@543whitey]

apparently the lifter failures have been almost all on the commercial trucks. Not sure why.

[@jameszeiger8533]

Cool to hear a great experience with a 7.3 as an alternative to diesel. Other than the roller-lifter issue, which more than likely is a bar-stock issue and QA/QC materials issue as you mentioned, the diesels are just not where they need to be with the unreliability of their DEF and DEP systems. They may get it right down the road as time progresses, but as of now all 3 brands are not great for reliability right now and so a good gasser that can handle what most people tow, ie, not a 30k load, is good to know.

[@thatguy8718]

the lifter and cam failure is FAR MORE prevalent and common in the 6.4 hemis. at the same interval almost across the board (within 20,000miles) The delamination of the cam and lifter in the 7.3 is effecting rpoughly 2% of vehicles and of that 2%, 90% is high idle hour vehicles like box trucks, campers, service vehicles

[@justsaynrush9689]

I had a 2001 dodge V10 and was the nicest truck I've ever owned and I have had a few. Also have driven ford and GM big V8s and there is a place for everything depending on your needs so don't get me wrong. But I have had some tell me they are comparable to a diesel and I assure you, when you need a diesel you need a diesel, Period. If you don't need a diesel they are very good at what they are designed to do. sooner or later the government will tell you that we can't have them anymore, so we'll have plenty of time to reminisce at the charging station.

[@bradmcmanis3231]

I Must let u know I just got back from a 1580 mile trip towing my son's 28ft gooseneck with 3 horses and a mini from phx Az-Denver THIS TRUCK IS AMAZING more like a rocketship towing [ that I don't understand] only on cruise control average mileage 8.5 got 20.2 headed home empty stopped in durango Co on the way back they had wolf creek pass shut down but they let me threw for all 4wd APSOLUTE AMAZING this truck 4wd Slippery mode manual 2nd gear AT THIS POINT ILL NEVER OWN A DIESEL AGAIN 1000% GODZILLA

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

That's awesome! Thanks posting that info! Glad you love your zilla too!

[@peterbenson3776]

I think that drivers expectations of trucks are sometimes ridiculous. Its not a race car. I see light delivery drivers run like idiots and wonder why they break.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Absolutely 💯. Too many want trucks to get 20 plus mgp, have 1k hp, tow 40k, stop 60k, go faster than a lambo, resell better than a house and expect them never to break. Then there are the rest of us that know what to expect, need, and how to take care of them to last. 🙂

[@luke7750]

Gas stations were always a problem for me. Most stations don’t accommodate as well for gasoline rigs pulling a large towable behind. Most have more room at the diesel pumps that have long rigs

[@campingwithvoyager1]

I BOUGHT MINE IN MARCH 2020. ONE OF THE FIRST ONES ON THE STREET. I also tow a 5thwheel. Handles great towing. No issues so far. 435 hp almost the same a diesel...less torque

[@dam4274]

An F250 gas owner who lives down my block also pulls a 5th wheel; but his has the 6.2! Takes the hit on mileage while towing and gets way better as a daily driver! Saved on the diesel engine, DEF, and oil changes that aren’t nearly as expensive. Also, a Ford mechanic here on YT said to switch to Baldwin Filters because not only are they better but they hold a quart more oil.

[@toddfry7861]

For pulling your camper, the 7.3 should do well. It's when you pull a trailer daily that you need a diesel. Or pulling more weight. I have had both big gas engines and diesel engines. If you are like me and keep a truck for a long time the diesel is the way to go. The diesel will still be running when the rest of the truck has fallen off.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Absolutely 💯

[@georgec2562]

You mean the OLD diesels...

[@WyoElkHntr77]

People just don’t know how to drive. They expect things out of these trucks that are impossible. Treat these trucks good and they will treat you good. Most of these drivers are soccer moms per say!

[@Idahoprepper71]

If you are happy with it, that’s all that matters. I personally hate towing with a gas engine.

[@atomicorang]

You should file a lawsuit against Ford for false advertising.

[@huntermartin5646]

Got a 2022 250 with the 7.3 and it drives and pulls ( 12000lbs ) with no issues, couldn’t be more pleased after 9 months

[@presley881]

My youngest brother has a F-250 with a Godzilla in it and pulls a 40 ft. Gooseneck flatbed with 19 ,1000 lb. round bales all the time without a problem. Runs 70-75 mph with no strain.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

That is some heavy work for any truck, and pretty awesome. Thanks for posting that!

[@rontopping2048]

Is what it is , 7.3 gas is fine towing occasionally. 6.7 diesel for towing on daily basis. I tow daily with 6.7 trade in before 100k miles. Stay in powertrain warranty. Diesel is expensive to repair

[@derekheuring2984]

The only way I'd get a diesel these days if my job was hauling half a dozen cars back and forth across the country for dealers or car rental agencies. For all other needs it's gas all the way.

[@stevenmitchell6347]

The 7.3 is being pushed by Ford because they have bet the Superduty truck line on it. The best towing and hauling engines are the diesels, hands-down. It's the EPA requirements that are driving it, too. Thus, the production of diesels being limited to F350 and heavier for the most part and then for only about 35% of total production. The 7.3 mpg is less than the diesels, power is lower, range between fill-up is less, and mountain towing and hauling will have mpg into single digits. For campers and those who don't really NEED max towing and hauling, F250 and 7.3 are fine. I will stay with my F350 dually diesel, Crew Cab, and enjoy my 21mpg hwy empty and 17-18mpg towing and hauling on any grade.

[@ryangreen9501]

I find this hard to believe… I’ve had 3 6.7s none of which got this mpg, especially my dually…(14 mpg average empty or towing for that one)

[@stevenmitchell6347]

@ryangreen9501 You just tried to equate apples and oranges. My '03 F350 Lariat, 6.0, 5R110, 4x2, Crew Cab, Dually, long bed isn't strangled like a 6.7 w/DPF and DEF systems. There are many reasons for the resurgence of the 6.0 over the 6.4 and 6.7, and mpg is one of the top 3 as is the absence of those expensive to maintain or replace systems. The energy density will always allow diesel engines of equal displacement to gasoline engines to be more efficient AND powerful. The mpg I get from my 6.0 is in line with that by other 6.0 owners who don't overboost and "hotrod" their rigs. The new 7.3 "Godzilla" gas engine is good for the purposes of most people buying trucks as they aren't generally working them every day. They are already breaking and showing flaws when they are. Ford has never produced a quality, durable diesel engine, but neither has Dodge. The GM Duramax is the product of ISUZU and was "stolen" from them when they were partially owned by GM. Prior to that, GM didn't produce decent diesel engines for medium and light duty either. I had great hopes for the 7.3, but, once again, Ford disappoints.

[@MonsterTruckingCo.]

I would never pay more than 20k for a truck with a Gas engine. Such a waste. Lower resale, greatly lower towing capacity, engine wear out far quicker than a diesel will. Overall inferior to its other variation. I’d gladly pay 100k for a diesel that I know can handle some weight, last over 300k miles and that will still have a resale value after time used in service.

[@gregorylyon1004]

Anyone towing with a 7.3 should really get the 4:30 gears.

[@ramtrucks721]

3.85 works great on our work trailer...11K only tho

[@D_gas_bob]

I wonder how many people with lifter failure got there service done at Jiffy lube. Years back, a big issue with the 6.0 diesel injectors was cheap oil and foaming. Good oil led to great service. Maybe this is the lifter issue to. Not all oil is equal....

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

That is 💯 true. I only used Motorcraft oil in my 6.0 and my 6.4 and over maintained both and not one issue and both those trucks now have over 150k, no issues. I do believe a lot of issues are because maxed out service intervals, and inadequate parts, fuels and lubricants.

[@michaelfishkin4332]

I want a 7.3 in the F150 or Ranger, Bronco, anything they can fit it in. Oh boy just think of the fun.

[@chuckchillson2877]

Not sure why people are surprised I had a 19 250 with 6.2 pulled a 35' 10,000 5th wheel without issues

[@ck3561]

Like I mentioned to you earlier when I purchased my truck over last weekend. I test drove the Godzilla in the F350 but it was just xl (work truck) but it got the bug out of my system. I think it is a good engine. It kind of reminds me of my old 460 but the main difference is it revs really high but other then that it is night and day over the ford 6.2 But I am still really pleased with my purchase (keep in mind only bought diesel because they gave me 15k off and no mark up, not because I didn’t like the Godzilla) 22 f350 xlt crew cab long bed 6.7 powerstroke and so far I love that 48 gallon tank. I am really enjoying your videos because I do really want to buy a couple 350 regular cab Godzilla for my construction company. Keep the videos coming 👍🏻

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Heck yeah, congrats on the new rig!

[@hoppy6663]

The 4.30 to 1 is really low gearing , your mileage must suck! My 2019 f350 6.7 diesel crew cab has 3.55 to 1 and I tow 16 ,000 pound toy hauler and I have no complaints!

[@blurryeclipse4464]

7.3 is a great engine. If you’re getting a truck for towing, obviously go for the desiel.

[@clkclkboom04]

What the hell else are you getting a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup for? Going to get your morning coffee and a trip to the office?

[@Notthistime2.0]

This will depend on what you are towing and how often. Most 250 and 2500 are garbage. Mine as well get 1ton for payload. But I enjoy my 7.3 due to maintenance cost. I would get a 450 next time.

[@walking_man]

Towed with both - 7.3 and 6.7. Don't let anyone kid you. Diesel PowerStroke wins all the way - especially in wind or mountains.

[@markm8807]

My 6.7 tows straight up at 80mph…… no problem

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Yep, my 6.7 cummins, 6.7 scorpion and 6.6 lml created enough powered to tow ar any speed. Although the 7.3 godzilla did just as well at towing at speed, but it does take a little more work, not overworked. But that will always be the case, diesels are tow kings, but the new gassers, can eat at the table now with em.

[@tominaklan9702]

I have the 7.3 less then 200 miles that’s one week of ownership I found the whole drive train rusting Ford said we can’t do anything for you. So something to watch out for don’t buy a ford if it’s rusted make them treat it and paint it at the bare minimum

[@mikealfieri641]

Fluid film is your new friend. Plus remember the chip shortage? Your truck sat in a lot waiting for chips.

[@tominaklan9702]

@@mikealfieri641 that is probably true but I worked for one of the largest semiconductor factories in the world and we never shut down the Fab. I can’t speak for China Japan Philippines I have purchased 10 cans and a gallon of de-rusting chemical just have to wait for a good day this spring

[@mikealfieri641]

@@tominaklan9702 Yeah I just remember the aerial photos of thousands of these trucks waiting to get final built. Mine took 9 months.

[@andytaylor2321]

I conventional tow 16k during my work season with my 22’ 6.7 ps. I can barely tell I’m pulling load and I’m getting 15mpg. Godzilla is ok at best. It gets the job done but won’t win any races, lol

[@rcdixon76]

15 towing 16k. Hmmm..

[@zymkriger]

I have 8 f350s from 2012-2017 with the 6.2 in them and they all pull 12,000-13,000 lbs multiple times a week and they all have between 150,000-290,000 miles and I have never had to replace work on an engine or trans in any of them to date. I have one 2022 f250 7.3 and at 12,000 miles it bent a push rod.

[@ronaldvoigt6761]

Got me a 97 f250 7.5 460 . Upgraded fuel intake and ripped the reducers out of the air intake. Stock exhaust but I’m now cranking out just over 400 horsepower. Gas mileage is my only complaint but this bitch can out run most and what it can’t, it can simply park on top of.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

Heck yeah

[@brianclemens2707]

You're towing really high, going to take the back axle out on the fifth wheel. The new beds are so high. My 2016 is the last of the lower boxes.

[@gmlover82]

It’s funny people say that but we used it have diesels with less power towing the weight 20yrs ago with no issues. Before that it was the old big blocks, granted it was slow but worked.

[@bigcountryplatinum5150]

I’ve got a ‘22 tremor (4.30 rear with 35” tires) f250 with the 7.3 and it pulls my 8,000 ish pound trailer great almost every weekend.

[@riccochet704]

The people that say it doesn't tow good, or it's no where near their diesel, don't understand how V8 gas engines work. Whether it's the 7.3, or Ram 6.4, or GM 6.2 they all tow just fine. It's just different in terms of where there power is made. Higher in the RPM range. I went from a 6.7 cummins to a 6.4 hemi and couldn't be happier. Tows my rig just fine, gets similar fuel economy while towing, and better when not, cheaper to maintain and repair. If you're not towing over 13-14k there's really no reason to get a diesel. Unless you like pissin money away and sayin "check out muh deez-uhl!"

[@jasonwalker999]

Plus they always compare power levels. The diesel has forced induction. Put a supercharger or turbo on the 7.3 and it would pull really well. Still wouldn’t have the torque the diesel does, but would be really powerful. I own a 6.7 PS and love it, but I may purchase a 7.3 if I purchase another new truck.

[@tumbleweedking5668]

You'd have to tow at max payload everyday at max speed to really justify the diesel. But work this truck everyday hard enough to keep up with the diesel for 250k and let's see who's left standing. I promise you smoked cam and lifters at the minimum.

[@n2091m]

And you’re assuming the diesel will do the 250k with no issues lol. YEAH RIGHT! The 6.7 will probably have a DPF filter, fuel system, DEF tank with heater and who knows what else. To the tune of $20k plus

[@jbrous3602]

I guess the next vids are...airbags? We pull a GD Imagine 24mpr toy hauler, has a 10' garage incorporating a bunk system that is closed off with a sliding glass door to the bath, kitchen and Murphy bed. DW 6500, hitch 800, carries 4000. The 22 f250 w3000 payload has no butt dragging going on...we do a 10k equalizer. It pulls great but will add a sway bar soon.

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

I've only put bags on the ford dually I had. I like the timbrens and if I needed even more I'd just do the timbren severe service, they are about 30 bucks more

[@makwaphy]

Guy's are ok with engine failure as long at it's under warranty 😂 Standards are low these days.

[@timdavison2417]

Had me ready to burn my 7.3's at the beginning lol! Anyway I really love mine it does everything i want it to do! Question though, would you put another set of Timbren bags on or go with air bags? I pull a 30' livestock trailer so i do get some pretty good loads on. Thank you!!

[@automotiveinquiries9673]

On that they do sell a heavy service timbren, I personally if you want zero maintenance I'd go with that. It's way cheaper. Unless you want to put auto air bags, it's a pain to air them.up and then out.

[@mrs.waight7326]

I've been around diesel my entire life. Never, and I mean never by a gas engine to compete with a diesel engine with comparable engine sizes. Period. I've never and I mean never. As well as I never will ever hear of a 12 to 15 liter 425 or 550 gas powered caterpillar Peterbilt.😂 Why? Gas cannot complete. It's a wash on the fuel argument. Gas is cheaper but you burn the hell out of it pulling a load. Diesel is more expensive but you save fuel with real power. Bottom line , your diesel WILL SURVIVE the punishment, your gas will not. Putting a gas 7.3 ltr. 9000 lbs. pickup in front of 12,000 lbs. trailer Total pull 21,000 lbs./----- Is equivalent to putting a 425 cat(13 ltr.) diesel truck (25,000) lbs., along with a 20,000 lbs.trailer and 40,000 lbs. of frieght. Now you know why semi trucks( the good ones use diesel.....And NOT Gas.. No competition or comparison in any category. Period. Diesels is THE smart choice for pulling. Including train engines to produce electricity for the electric motors. That's funny Mr. Elon😂. People will never learn,..

[@AnthonyTavelli-e7p]

You are correct if all you do is haul heavy loads on interstates. The reason Ford built the 7.3 is for occasional hauler that doesn't want to deal with the cost of the new chocked (def) diesels. I owned 2,6.7 since 2014 for hauling my hay. 16k gooseneck 15500 to 17k of round bales depending on moisture. The 14 F350 single rear (3:55) was plenty of pulling power. Not necessary for Ford to pump out more but the did. Round trip with that 14 was 11 mpg. Usually 25 to 30 trips a season 150 miles per. 2017 F250 10 to 12 mpg found trip trip after trip. My test hill in this trip from stop at bottom the 14 could easily top it (1 mile) doing 65 mph 4 th gear. 17 would shift into 5th in the dip in the middle of the hill,65 mph topping hill. You could get more bit that was me liking to listen to them pull and out run cars with a load. Now I pull with a 2022 F250 7.3 has 4:30 gears. 10 speed. Same load and trailer same trip over and over. 31 trip this year with the 22 gas. 10 mpg. This gas trucks fuel milage or my cost to deliver is basically the same as my diesels would have been at about $1in difference per gallon between diesel and gas. I stop the same fuel station every time same pump. How's the 7.3 pull? Great. It's not a diesel and nobody claims it can pull with them at extreme weights or hills. My 7.3 can pull my loads well. The test hill it can also top that hill at 65 mph. To do that you will see plenty of rpms and fuel going through it but you also don't get 11mpg with a diesel when you have your foot in it and down in the gears. The overall trip tells the story. The 22 does compete with the diesels I owned. It is saving me money and doing the work as I need it to do. I am amazed how well it does. I was concerned what it would do when I get on an interstate because that is part of that trip. 70 mph with 26k behind me and 4:30s for gears. Will it screaming with high rpms to maintain 70? Nope. 70 mph = 2k rpms in 10th gear. Right in its power. Cruises right along. It likes 70mph or more you like. 7 th gear is 1to 1. 8,9 and 10 are overdrive(s). The 7.3 coupled with the 10 speed is an excellent combination. With the 4:30s my rated towing capacity out of the bed is 18,500. This will pull and it fuel milage is equal in cost of the diesel. Longevity? The def system diesels are not the old low reving diesel. They are high performance engines that shortens their life. I went away from them for that reason. I was paying a premium for much more pulling power than I needed or is legal for a pickup. Yes,the 6.7 can tow a lot more than is legal or safe. Just too expensive on both ends. Price and maintenance for piece of equipment that will start seeing the dealer for def system issues around 70k. Buy what a person wants in this country. We all should support that and be honest about our experiences so others can learn and make good decisions. I personally think that you are hauling heavy for a living. Buy a diesel. The 7.3 is for part time. My initial attraction to it is its simplicity as an engine. Question was will it pull and what's my cost overall. Answer is I'm running less expensive and love pulling ith it.

[@prostreetcamaro]

It's a ford it's bad lol that made me laugh out loud literally. That was our experience with ford trucks and vans for years using them as work trucks and broncos and expeditions as personal vehicles. Can't honestly say we ever owned a "good" one. 2 300 I6 oil pressure gone right at 60k. One 302 gone at 60k. One truck constant brake problems that never did get fixed before we sold it at 90k. Electrical problems in the expedition. Good god I could go on and on and on. Have not had a single problem since switching to GM in 2000.

[@JGFowler121]

4:30 gears match up with the 7.3L. Also watch out with letting the motor idle for long periods. Ford put in a variable pressure oil pump that drops to 6psi at idle and doesn’t get oil up to the lifters very well if at all.

[@SOU6900]

I wonder if what you said about the oil pressure is why the cam and lifters are having problems now that you brought that up.

[@williamgodfrey9170]

You guys should try to use Lucas heavy duty oil stabilizer

[@Scrambler85]

I have a 2021 E350 with the 6 speed transmission and 4.56 gears. It's a converted rv that gets 11.4 mpg most of the time. I love the performance in the mountains.