7 COMPLETELY WASTED Characters in the Batman Arkham Saga

[@GothamPaladin]

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[@SilentAssassinn]

@@GothamPaladin no

[@БогданКрименюк]

No x2

[@hands_0n543]

If i hear “Zase” one more time i’ll flip

[@RanaldMcDanald]

🤣Especially when it’s pronounced multiple times in both Asylum and City.

[@JamesGonzalez-gz2yy]

Naw he definitely does it on purpose🤣 still bothers me tho

[@RanaldMcDanald]

@@JamesGonzalez-gz2yy yeah I watched an older video earlier and he pronounced it perfectly. He’s just likes to aggravate us. 😂

[@SadKris]

or the order of saint doomasses

[@SilentAssassinn]

@@hands_0n543 he's rage baiting

[@hammerdmx982]

(Again) The reason why in Asylum and City got Bane like that is beacouse the main writer, Paul Dini, dosent like Bane, and you can see in interviews with him talking about Bane, he just dosent like him. And since Knight wasnt writen by Dini, you can find a riddle where it reveals a story where he got over his adictions and went back into his homeland to fight a good fight, wich i feel like Dini wouldnt bother to give this type of story to Bane in Knight. Moral of the story, if you want a good Bane story, dont get Paul Dini for it, he dosent like him.

[@gfilmer7150]

He’s a 70s kid so he comes from the Era of Ra’s Al Ghul, Rupert Thorne, and Killer Croc.

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

That's the single dumbest reason I have ever heard. He is written like that because i dont like him and the cherry on top. The director and producers let him do it. No wonder the other games they made were so questionable

[@claytoncgamesXD27]

How can someone dislike Bane? Such a cool villain...

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

@@claytoncgamesXD27 I dunno ask dini

[@TheWaffleEdits]

@@UzairAli-iy5jhGarth Ennis ahh reasoning

[@celtic19]

I’d say bane is a waste of a slot here, Arkham origins not only made an amazing interpretation of him but even went out of its way to retcon why he’s so bad in the rocksteady games with him being extremely mentally fucked after the tn1 usage in the ending. Montreal redeemed him and he’s not wasted anymore

[@paulakroy2635]

I totally agree but my god the first two games are everything wrong about bane representation in a nutshell

[@celtic19]

@ ye asylum and city bane is basically just bane from Batman & robin

[@BrandonJames2016]

Surprised black mask wasn’t on this list considering his “role” if you wanna call it that in origins and small appearance in the dlc for knight.

[@syuriychuk3782]

Agree! Guy who supposed to main villian but instead we got Joker again(to be fair I enjoyed twist and Joker in game it was done very well). After twist he got disrespected and alwayes loses. In City he had minor role in red hood dlc he got killed and that all? He deserved way more.

[@RTBelk-tv7rc]

Fr he never had a good spotlight except city all the other times two face was just offscreen or used as a predator section in knight while in asylum he only appeared at the end but it was offscreen saying he was robbing a bank bruh

[@syuriychuk3782]

@@RTBelk-tv7rc Wtf? While I agree with you but we talked about Black Mask not Two Face.

[@RTBelk-tv7rc]

@syuriychuk3782 it automatically reply to a comment group by accident mb

[@P3rm4frost]

I got a bit exhausted about bring up the joker ever single game. They could have ended the game with being like the next thing going on, like in Batman begins and maybe you meet Jack Napier before in arkham origins or something and he gets betrayed by you. Would have been better to get a fleshed out black mask. Joker is like a lazy choice because developers know everything about the joker. I barely know anything about black mask.

[@MBGamesHD]

Nobody's gonna bring up Deadshot? The real Deadshot that appeared in City should've also appeared in Knight

[@FakeforFaith]

thank you for saying the real one.

[@RocketMan21-vp9ie]

He could've easily been a better fit in Deathstrokes place in Knight. A tank could fit him.

[@newcomerproductionscsom3560]

Woodrow Wilson caught me off guard

[@FakeforFaith]

Same

[@Lighthouse29501]

Rocksteady bane is literally Lego batman 1 bane 💀

[@youtubeistryingtocensorme]

😆 . I still laugh at Bane being left behind by The Penguin and then him throwing a car on himself in frustration

[@somedudewhodraws9377]

I did hear Rocksteady ran out of time with Slade in Arkham Knight so they had to make due with a reuse of the Arkham Knights Tank battle.

[@Jaques20]

Not only that, I've heard that Origins & Knight devs didn't have a lot of communication. That's why characters like Anarky showed up in mentions, but nothing more. They added it last second to try and keep some continuity, but apparently didn't know much.

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

They released seaon of infamy would've been better to add him there

[@gfilmer7150]

@@UzairAli-iy5jhImagine if that was the Bruce and Dick team up sidequest, it would’ve made so much sense given that Deathstroke is arguably Dick’s archnemesis.

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

@gfilmer7150 What could've been

[@dellmaxson2184]

Slade's tank battle wasn't the problem, the problem was after he jumped out there was no h2h combat situation. Deathstroke is known in all media as being top 5 best h2h combats in Batman's stories. Batman, Ras, Shiva, Deathstroke & Talia are normally similar in h2h combat. They go up & down but they are still normally relative.

[@DivNambiath]

Nah, Shiva is a level above those mentioned here. Talia is nowhere as good as these guys either. That being said I agree with your general point.

[@dellmaxson2184]

@@DivNambiath I'm talking about actual ability not plotted situations where she is "above" all the rest. Only then to lose to red hood & Dick Grayson multiple times while she can be seen sweating & straining to fight them. Hood & Grayson, neither of who are better than any of the others, I named in the original comment lol.(but Talia)

[@3ratss]

They didn't use riddler enough, I vote for 440 trophies in all games

[@MidnightShadowStriker]

Make it 1,000 nothing less

[@The_RaveSpring]

Right? They made him look more Middler than Riddler

[@y345vash9]

Finally! Someone had the guts to say it! Make them all batmobile trophies for the absolute best experience! 😁👍

[@TheCloudsOffical]

_No_ I had enough of collecting those Riddler Trophies man.

[@WestCoastCheeseHead]

Fuck them trophies😂

[@szabok1999]

They HAD to have known that everyone would be disappointed with Deathstroke in Knight. They knew and went with it anyway.

[@BruthaJames]

Apparently ran out of time but like how it was already delayed Wonder what was going on

[@AnxMa]

Could you consider a Kevin Conroy tribute? Nov 10th marks 2nd anniversary of his death. I got a voice acting background and his voice was an inspiration for me since the Animated Series. I made recently a tribute to him using the classic Batman toys with footage from Arkham and Injustice but I don't got ur reach, and he deserves much bigger tribute.

[@sirekumasutra7022]

Before watching the video I thought of Deathstroke, Hush, Two Face, Nightwing and most of all Black Mask. Hush had City and Slade had Origins. What was the biggest moment for Black mask? Pushed out of a building by Red Hood? His mask hanging in Dr Young's office? His identity used by Jonkler? Or being tased by Tyger guards in the beginning of City?

[@PeterGriffin698]

They fumbled the bag on jonkler smh…

[@FakeforFaith]

Nooo

[@ConnorWiederich-hr4zu]

I’m surprised Black Mask didn’t get a mention. After the reveal scene he quickly leaves the story and gets pushed into a side mission that was the same as Bane’s side mission from Arkham City without even a boss fight. It would have been great to see him depicted as the Black Mask from Under the Red Hood movie.

[@evanwirth7881]

One of my favorite and most powerful lines in the Arkham games is Harvey yelling “was I ever part of the plan” his whole monologue there was cold 🥶

[@comicfan1324]

Just for arguments sake, let’s assume the developers didn’t have the time or resources to create a completely unique Deathstroke boss fight so they have to reuse a Bossfight from the Arkham Knight. Why not reuse the stealth Bossfight you have after Jason is on masked for Deathstroke but make it harder? Deathstroke May prefer hand-to-hand, but he’s no stranger to sniper rifles, so I feel like this would still be somewhat satisfying. So the challenge would be you have to perform three take downs on Slade from beneath his vantage point, however Deathstroke’s ammunition can kill you in just a few hits, and on hard mode he can one-shot you. And on top of that there is a small handful of henchmen moving about the arena which Slade is barking orders at to lay traps for Batman. Again, a hand-to-hand Bossfight would be better, but I think this could work.

[@Fatboy50005]

Arkham shadows definitely get dent right 10/10

[@jamespopcornfrfr]

2:33 who’s gonna tell him he already has 100k?

[@Joey-vs4fr]

Probably already recorded it before that

[@FakeforFaith]

No one tell him

[@TheThehitman63124]

So from what I understand the original writer wanted the main villains of Arkham night to be scarecrow and hush with both Batman and Bruce Wayne being attacked but rocksteady decided to go in a different direction

[@slabobogabobo]

They sold bone harder then gp selling streams

[@FakeforFaith]

Egg

[@slabobogabobo]

@@FakeforFaith indeed yes

[@MSI-i17s]

I'm feeling gp was drunk while trying to remember their names

[@Toatekaha]

Sadly that's just how it is when you have a character with a Massive Gallery of characters like Batman. Unless you make like 12 games with 50 hour main plots, your going to waste/miss out on some characters in the mythos. This is also the case with Insomniac Spider man games to, Kingpin and Taskmaster are pretty much wasted characters unless they make room for them in the third game. And this will definitely be the case for Wolverine and Superman in the future.

[@FakeforFaith]

True

[@jonathanbarr9764]

I've always kind of questioned why they didn't go with the Militia commander that you always hear over the radio for the second cloudburst tank boss. Because as far as I know he never gets caught.

[@gfilmer7150]

Plot twist: He’s the main mastermind behind Suicide Squad: Kill The Arkhamverse.

[@jonathanbarr9764]

@@gfilmer7150 I'd buy that as an explanation or at least he's working for Waller.

[@gfilmer7150]

@@jonathanbarr9764Seriously though he’s the one that got away with

[@jonathanbarr9764]

@@gfilmer7150 Yep and so we never get the pleasure of shutting him up.

[@Joe_Kerr_9797]

I was disappointed with Two-Face, Hush, Deathtroke (Knight) the most, I hated that they all got taken down like punks, I was also disappointed with the bat family, they all should have gotten bigger roles in Arkham Knight.

[@HeyheyandAwesomedudeutbegaming]

Honestly, when they initially had that point in the game when it was revealed that deathstroke was the new leader of the militia, I had serious high hopes that we’d get another boss fight similar to the one in origins. Alas, I was severely disappointed

[@lukeroberts6747]

Jack Ryder was Wasted because I feel like he could have saved himself twice if he was the creeper ( They mentioned the creeper in 2 Arkham games and got nothing!!!)

[@aarontharakan7794]

All the characters in this vid in a nutshell- deathstroke- badass ninja guy but uses tank for some reason Bane- Dumb brute Two Face- just a thug with a cool story and really likes coins hush- Disappointment (just like me) azrael- cool in city but mid in knight Shiva- deathstroke but worse robin- not enough screen time nightwing-- got captured by fat penguin guy jason- cool char but 90% off screen lore and never talks with his family (also his disguise in knight was worse than KSI's new song)

[@FakeforFaith]

Bane should always be betrayed as a intelligent villian

[@aarontharakan7794]

@@FakeforFaith He should be but he isnt often but he was perfect in origins tho

[@FakeforFaith]

@aarontharakan7794 havnt seen origins yet but ill check it out for sure

[@itsnavassj5853]

Arkham Knight with Bane as main villain could have been something...

[@cliffbot638]

I know he was the co antagonist of Knight but I think Jason Todd was fumbled in the Arkham series.

[@natedavis8067]

Agreed, he definitely should have been brought up more in the series, especially during asylum because he had only recently lost Jason at that point

[@Pseudo_Notfound]

I don't think azrael was wasted at all. I prefer azreal in arkham knight than in city, he's background and gameplay is better. In arkham city he just say "dark day will come" and leave, I did arkham city after knight and I was hype to see him... and I didn't like him.

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

The problem was he is just a reskin of batman. There was nothing different about him he was just a nerfed batman it would've been better if he had some role in the main story

[@johny_beans]

if i had to guess the reason for bane being an idiot in the rocksteady games is do to the tn-1 messing with his memory

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

That's the reason arkham origins gave them before that he was just plain dumb

[@FakeforFaith]

Could be

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

@@FakeforFaith real reason Paul deni the writer hates him

[@johny_beans]

@@UzairAli-iy5jh that makes sense

[@Andrewshafer2005]

Congrats on the 100k man 👏

[@brandonpartain10]

Fcking THANK YOU! Two Face has been my favorite Batman villain for years and I always hated how little they used him in these games. Especially when the little we do get is so damn good

[@darragh4912]

So happy with the justice arkham shadow did for Harvey

[@pysz6748]

Imagine being the best assassin, mercenary, and one of best martial artists in the world and taking less punches than firefly.

[@RedcoatTrooper]

Great video, I see why they sidelined the bat family but a quick scene at the end where they all get together at the clocktower would have been amazing.

[@yaboillaoyd]

I agree with the two face, he was so well writen but he was wasted so much

[@Sooffbeat]

Imagine if arkham origins had a dlc where Harvey dent becomes two face and you gotta stop him after he goes mad from being burnt

[@nikolakolev6921]

12:09 you know what else is crazy is that the loooooow taper fade like meme is still massive

[@andymcfly6925]

What hasn't anyone modded better boss fights into Arkham Knight? There's many ways to improve them by modding standards

[@jonathanbarr9764]

In regards to Lady Shiva and Batman fights, I believe Batman once said that if it was just martial arts Shiva would win with the Public Enemies story arc from the comics having Batman mention that Shiva nearly killed him once. I think the Azrael story would have worked better if they had combined it with the Deacon Blackfire story, have Blackfire be the leader of this cult making attacks during the riots of Knight and then have Batman team up with Azrael to stop him. Then have the final choice for Azrael being whether or not to kill Blackfire, with the result of the choice being a boss fight against Azrael if he tries to kill Blackfire.

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

I actually really love it. It could've been similar to nightwing missions but with more disturbing environments

[@jonathanbarr9764]

@@UzairAli-iy5jh Maybe they could have brought back the hostage stealth mission from Origins or City where once you take down enough cultist one will grab a hostage and try to kill them unless you take them out.

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

@jonathanbarr9764 If they could've made azreal Feel and Play Different, then batman, it would've been nice, but as of now azreal, Is basically a nerfed batman

[@jonathanbarr9764]

@@UzairAli-iy5jh Yeah, I'm actually kind of curious about how long it took Azrael to duplicate the other gadgets of Batman. Batman loans him the REC gadget for his combat challenges but now I'm wondering about the other gadgets like the explosive gel.

[@jamesgraham4521]

An honorable mention should go to Killer Croc. He ends his Asylum boss fight basically screaming he’ll hunt us down, has one of the most obscure Easter eggs in City, and then gets relegated to a DLC side quest in Knight and the tutorial boss fight in Origins. While I’m glad we don’t go back to the sewers in Knight, I wish he factored somewhere into the story instead of being just kinda there.

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

He was actually done pretty well because in series as a whole but was wasted in the city, considering he goat a decent amount of story in his short screen time

[@cecil3602]

I was so pissed that we didn’t get to fight Jason Todd and Deathstroke in a hand to hand combat rather than a freaking tank battle and stealth 😭😭

[@goblin_corpse]

Promoting a website that's basically a plagiarism machine isn't a good look.

[@Mrlee911]

Batman should’ve had more screen time😔

[@Crizzly122]

I love hiw Hush's plan was to spend all that time crafting a perfect replica of Bruce's face just so he could walk past his secretary

[@jimnicholls5215]

I think people really dont realize how painfully wasted Harley is in the arkham games because she has such a disproportionately high amount of screentime compared to other neglected characters. Imo, the Arkham games have the single most boring interpretation of her just being a crazy clown lady in love with the joker. There’s no humanity or empathy that i feel is integral to her character.

[@sydch]

EXACTLY! She's just a puppet in arkhamverse. Look at comics, or her own animated series, BTAS continuation or hell even movies, she's definitely capable of more. She also the living proof of "no kill" rule, as keeping her alive made a huge difference in the end-game - she's even in batfamily now goddamn it!

[@paulakroy2635]

I do get that but also he’s the creator so give him a break

[@GS_Official120]

bane was a 10/10 in origins FR then became a bumbling idiot in asylum and city

[@lycaonpictus2008]

To be fair, Bane was experimented on by Dr. Young, so it might have messed with his mind.

[@chris30555]

And he literally was brain damaged after Origins.

[@bmo5852]

12:35 I always find it funny how Hush is talking mad shit like: "Pray we do not meet again, I will not be in such a generous mood" when he's literally locked us away from him and is running like a bitch. Hyped past me up cause I wanted to wipe that smugness off his face and voice, then we got the AK side mission

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

At least we did get to beat his ass

[@tyleroutland435]

I would pick deathstroke knight Azeral knight Hush knight Firefly knight Scarecrow knight Joker knight Jason knight Bane Arkham asylum and city Harley Quinn knight

[@tyleroutland435]

And two face knight

[@Alf-gm7tf]

Clayface

[@SoyboyPeter]

⁠​​⁠​⁠right because Arkham city totally didn’t waste him despite him being relegated Catwoman’s canon fodder. All Azreal did in Arkham city is warn you of a prophecy and that’s it. There’s nothing there suggesting that there’s something bigger for him. Firefly is a one dimensional serial arsonist. He wouldn’t fit in with the main story. Neither would hush. Deathstroke was just a mercenary, he’s not main villain material at all. Don’t pretend like he was a great character in origins. He’s only there for 5 minutes. He’s actually better written in Arkham knight. Joker in knight nearly drove Batman to madness and he has 3 hours of screen time, he wasn’t wasted in knight. Even Batman in Asylum and city acknowledges how stupid Harley Quinn is, she isn’t main villain material at all.

[@kendi5391]

@@SoyboyPeter Deathstroke is a main villain material but for Teen Titans and Nightwing not Batman, Joker wasn't wasted per say he didn't need to be there.

[@dukeslytalker1192]

Deadshot city, grundy city,

[@saeedchanc]

About Shiva, the story could be better. Also the voice actor is one who had karai in tmnt 2012 🌝

[@ultimedjsg8716]

Guy wants a super boss fight agaisnt Two Face, when realistically, he's just a guy with a coin. What would the mechanics be, without landing on comical

[@kosaba11]

I think he's more talking about presence and importance to the main plot. Two-Face is one of Batman's more tragic villains, being one of Batman's closest allies before being disfigured and made to go crazy. From a story perspective, there's a lot you can do with that instead of one off cameo in City's main plot, and really bad boss fight against Catwoman, and repetitive side missions in Knight.

[@PandaGumukz]

Origin boss fight is the best

[@Arkham13v]

Deathstroke and Bane got nerfed, Two-Face didn't get a moment to shine, Hush and Azrael were built up for nothing, Shiva is so obscur that i don't think anyone remembers her, and the Robins were overshadowed by the bat. And most of these issues happened in Arkham Knight. I wonder why? 🤔

[@bearpoop720]

Bane wasnt present in knight except for a mask, shiva is origins, the Robin issue happened in all the games, two face problem also happened first in city and he gets more disrespect in city than knight. Only 3/7 of the problems listed were exclusive/ present in knight, so it isn't "most".

[@Intialdragonr]

Any one else imagine deathstroke saying “you want me to drive what now? You I’m mercenary with army service years of experience right?”

[@Manan_Agrawal056]

Hoosh went out like a whoosh😂😂😂

[@ryang54712]

What if Batman figured out that there was a fake joker in Arkham city?

[@Savagebeast1]

i think TN-1 that bane took at the end of the game in origins made him like that cause he knew batman identity then all of sudden he don't but origins was created years later after asylum.

[@vincem2320]

Totally agree Deathstroke should’ve been just as dangerous if not more than Bane. The main villains in origins that should’ve made Batman realize he can actually lose and die are Bane, Deathstroke, Sheeva, and Joker

[@jackdobrowolsky]

My main critique of the series is Batman's relationship with the Bat Family. In the comics and different animated shows and movies, they are always together, and Batman isn't mad at them for roaming around Gotham trying to help people and stop crime from occurring, but it's the complete opposite in the series.

[@stephenchambers7972]

deathstroke's portrayal in the arkhamverse hurt me the most and lady shiva and both of them are my favourites in the whole dc universe.

[@aiidankhan]

I think Deathstroke was a tricky situation. It was probably hard to have a Deathstroke boss fight that felt new after just having one 2 years earlier

[@Makeouthill_17]

I feel like Prometheus would’ve been so cool to feature in the game. It’s too bad they never did implement him at all

[@kosaba11]

I feel, instead of doing Arkham Knight - though I love the character's concept in the comics - they should've just done Prometheus for Arkham Knight. Similar backstories, similar level of martial skill, and similar level of intelligence - he could've been a perfect foil to use.

[@UzairAli-iy5jh]

He was supposed to in the planned season of infamy 2, but that was canceled

[@Bobbilly-z7d]

congratulation on 100k

[@dychrisshandonsmith1242]

Keep it up on your work and this video and channel I love this video and channel Thanks you for your video and channel I love Batman Arkham all games franchise

[@DWolf2099]

6:19 I think for Bane is mostly the writer Paul Dini, he was on the writing team for BTAS and that Bane is also under utilized because the the whole team didn't like the Knighfall storyline and when they were asked to add Bane who just released in the comics the team Didn't want to retread in the same story currently going on.

[@thenot-so-smartfox4145]

Just a random idea I had, imagine if after the tank fight or whatever, you would have to fight Deathstroke through the rooftops of gotham, having to chase him or having him chase you and needing to move fast, while also having to fight like in Origins.

[@stinkypinky789]

deathstroke is one of my favorite ever dc characters and it makes me so mad that he barely ever shows up throughout the entire universe

[@123447058]

From the marketing, you would think Deathstroke would be an enemy who hunts you the entire game like Baldur in GOW4.

[@khaledalassad7379]

Hush was supposed to be the main villain of Arkham Knight along with Scarecrow when Paul Dini was in charge. Then Sefton Hill removed Hush as main villain

[@ezekielrayfield1512]

Black mask feels like the most wasted out of all of the villains

[@brookez3116]

I like to think Titan is what messed up Bane’s mind and that’s why he’s like that in the other two games

[@SK5KSK]

No way. GP got a sponsor.

[@droylajarhirthefelinethief81]

1. Quincy Sharp. He was the most important person in Asylum and he got reduced to a barely noticeable side character in City. He was a serial killer, was the Warden of the Asylum, came up with the whole concept of the Arkham City prison, and somehow he gets replaced by Hugo Strange, and poor Quincy is portrayed as a stupid politician and then commits self delete between games. He should have been the Arkham Knight, as far as I'm concerned. He was the perfect opportunity to capitalize on the Lovecraftian themes of the story and they completely wasted him. 2. Solomon Grundy. Just... Solomon Grundy. I don't think I need to elaborate.

[@deprezzedcrocodile9938]

18:05 Before reading Batman Cult, I thought this quest was just cool. The short battle with the modifications was quite a good one. But after reading it... I can't take this bum for the charismatic, mysterious Deacon Blackfire. I understand that this is their version of the character, and most likely they were in a hurry to develop additional missions, but personally I think Deacon deserves better. He can be an antagonist on the level of Bane or Hugo Strange, having an army, charisma and tools for manipulation. However, if we consider him as an enemy for a short additional quest, then I think it was worth adding a QTE on withstanding torture (a la Metal Gear Solid 1) or some kind of hallucinations, with "proofs" of the Deacon's divinity. However, most likely Rocksteady just didn't have enough time to work on this quest.

[@kendi5391]

I think Killer Moth is the most obvious. Not only does not appear in the games outside of one Easter Egg in Arhkam Asylum and in Arhkam Knight there's mention of him dying to Red Hood it's just baffling. Original Anti-Batman with cool gadgets like cocoun gun, badass costume. Imagine a boss fight where Batman fights his equal in terms of tech, he has his own uniqe gadgets. Sure one of his loveable parts as a character is being a joke but one time him being a badass supervillain wouldn't hurt.

[@Gerald3merald]

Also Scarecrow was supposed to be the main villain in Arkham Knight, but it was often distracted from that by Joker trying to take over Batman's mind which was absurd and unnecessary. Also Scarecrow developed his own form of martial arts mixed with dancing and kung-fu which has made him able to stand up to Batman. Lady Shiva has beaten Batman.

[@JAYDOG1337A]

Lady Shiva in the comics is the mother of Black Bat/Orphan, who is probably the best hand to hand fighter out of the entire bat clan, including Batman himself.

[@Jerryisntthecodgod]

Tf you mean man-bat's side mission was trash?! That was one of the best in the game and it's attached to one of the best jumpscares in video game history

[@Cornyboa]

13:20 since when does an RKO look like that

[@GothamPaladin]

Gonna be honest I don’t know what an RKO actually looks like so I just took a wild guess and failed

[@Joey-vs4fr]

An RKO is what Nightwing did to croc

[@Cornyboa]

@@GothamPaladin I fw it tho 🗣️🙏🏾

[@JGAMES_44]

I laughed hella hard I believe I died at the part where you said zsasz as zase 😂😂😂😂😂

[@GOF2013]

Timestamp?

[@JGAMES_44]

​​​@@GOF2013here it is bud 8:04

[@GOF2013]

@@JGAMES_44 ty!

[@JGAMES_44]

@@GOF2013 yourwelcome!

[@porridge4512]

Nightwing is my favourite character in the comics, and he was done dirty. Him and Barbara not dating, him getting captured by Penguin easily, his dlc in arkham knight was phoned in. He is the heir to the cowl for a reason!

[@ФёдорМетёлкинъ]

I dont know, personally, i hate all these teenagers laughing, joking left and right wearing bright suits. Batman Arkham is like warhammer 40k, a lot of badass characters, dark atmosphere. And when the clowns show up the atmosphere ruins. For me the games will be better if there were only batman, alfred, lucius. No superman etc. I hope someone feel the same way.

[@jackbuggins1889]

"BONE"

[@jaxxpool9630]

The only one I disagree on is Hush since he should’ve caught by Batman in Arkham City. Also for someone who’s supposed to be intelligent, he made a really sloppy mistake by accidentally leaving a scalpel at one of his victims which led Batman to him.

[@anarky3585]

Hush was originally planned to be one of the main antagonists in arkham knight, so it wouldve been scarecrow and hush instead of scarecrow and jason todd

[@simonawad9656]

It would have been sick if the death stroke bossfight it AK was a multiphase fight. Like a tank fight that leads to a hand to hand fight

[@AllisterBergfield]

Surprised Catwoman isn't on this list. In Knight she is sidelined the entire game in a Riddler side mission, and in both games never serves as the amazing villain she's meant to be. Instead it's just a love interest in Knight, and a bad character in both City and Knight. Don't get me started on her DLC story pack

[@Cycemout]

AK should have been the culmination of the first 3 games where we get a portion of the game for Dick, a portion for Babs, and a portion for Tim while Jason, Harley and Azrael should have filled the DLC sections with the villains being Scarecrow and Hush like how they were alluded to in City. In terms of boss fights Man-Bat and Deadshot, Shiva and Deathstroke could have definitely been better battles And btw I ... Want ... A ... Creeper ... Fight 😂 or at least a bigger addition to the Jack Ryder side quests 😅

[@jjsince9746]

I’m here once again to say Gotham Paladin is the 🐐

[@vanquished1805]

I honestly don’t think the bat family was wasted in any way. They were underutilized, yes, but not wasted. It’s not a nail in the coffin like with Deathstroke or Hush. None of the bat family members were done dirty which means they still have lots of potential.

[@Koel711]

The Gotham city story for Deathstroke even built him up just to waste him on tank crap. "Contingency" is the story and the last line foreshadows up a combat encounter and yet...........

[@masonhall3617]

Shiva has beaten Bruce in the comics, you were right. Shiva is actually one of the few hand to hand combatants that consistently beats Batman outright, as she's blatantly acknowledged to be a better fight than Bruce. I remember reading one fight between them that lasted basically a couple panels before Shiva completely folded Bruce. She was insanely misrepresented in the Arkham series. Also, completely agree with the Batf Family being wasted. The story should have featured them all in the main story.

[@Obi-Wan-Kenobi_]

You should now do the best excluding joker

[@thegamerlegoshi4320]

I agree that as good as arkham knight is, you can't excuse the fact that they did deathstroke so dirty. Well from what I remember correctly he's supposed to be coming to ss next and I'm hoping he's not done worse than he was in knight

[@Zaddy_kong]

I think black mask was done so bad as well. In origins it's all joker instead of black mask. Not to take away from joker in that game but black mask should have been done better.

[@Mannimarco_King_of_Worms]

The single most wasted character in Arkham games is officer Balls. He was present for like an hour or so in Arkham Aslume and then got killed off screen. How could Cocksteady treat the greatest Man's villain like that? Are they stupid?

[@The_Phantasm]

20:59 Regarding the Bat-Family, while they were absolutely wasted, I disagree about what you said about All of them being characterised well because that was absolutely not the case with Tim Drake. They made him Drake in this game a copy of Dick Grayson and felt nothing like the comic book Tim Drake. They aged him up too much, They for some reason had him in a relationship with Barbara which is Just extremely weird because Barbara is supposed to be with Dick Grayson, and just generally they didn't use his intelligence whatsoever because Tim is supposed to be the smartest member of the Bat-Family. They totally butchered his character honestly.

[@GothamPaladin]

I hear you, despite that, I still liked his character for what he was in this game. It’s also why I say their characters are done “for the most part”!

[@SoyboyPeter]

@@The_Phantasm You say their relationship is weird based off of other stories that are irrelevant to the Arkham games. That’s pretty weak reasoning. Tim Drake is obviously older in this world. Doing something different isn’t butchering. SSKTJL is a real example of character being butchered. Every character gets character assassinated.