Batman Arkham's Long Halloween

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@GothamPaladin 2 ай бұрын

After Batman Arkham Shadow, my thoughts on this have changed! Check this video out to see my thoughts on the Long Halloween now! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnOwqnuAepyqiMU

@Hallowpool193 9 ай бұрын

The long Halloween is one of if not the best Batman story line ever

@deadpilled2942 9 ай бұрын

Because writers, and artists didn't do the whole, "I'll show my take on the character, and my own spin on the story" the writers and artists just wanted to make a good Batman story without any gimmicks.

@Lionsfan69420 6 ай бұрын

@deadpilled2942 that's what is so great about jeph loeb's batman

@Cipher_Nine 6 ай бұрын

Its either The Long Halloween or The Dark Knight Returns for the number one best comic for me

@kyseangalloway2022 4 ай бұрын

The Batman film takes from this iconic storyline

@thesurp72520 9 ай бұрын

The way that the number of faces that Harvey has increases as the video goes on is so funny to me.

@MrFedoraFilm 9 ай бұрын

Honestly, a Batman Arkham game centered on The Long Halloween storyline, with elements of its sequel story, Dark Victory, would have been awesome. Call it, Batman: Arkham Halloween, sequel to Arkham Origins. Would have been awesome.

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

Agreed. That exactly has been my dream game for years now. And since Arkham Origins occupied the Year 2 slot in Batman's career, they could adapt both The Long Halloween/Dark Victory, yeah. Featuring a storyline like the former's while being a Year 3 story introducing Dick Grayson's Robin like the latter.

@jasonx1174 9 ай бұрын

I would have taken that or a court of owls story after Arkham Origins.

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

@@jasonx1174 I think the Court of Owls would work better for Arkham Origins 3 as the big, behind the scenes antagonists for the trilogy capper. I'd like for Origins 2 to be a (relatively) lesser in scale detective story focusing on Batman mentoring a Robin, Harvey Dent's downfall, and the freaks taking over the criminal underworld.

@jasonx1174 9 ай бұрын

@themadtitan7603 That's a better idea than me thinking we only needed a 2nd game after Origins. Would have been cool and just freaking crazy to see those parts in Batman's career before we even got to Asylum. And I'm sure that after we played Origins 3, we would have seen a teaser in the credits that would've lead to Arkham Asylum. Reminding is of where it all still leads to where it started in the series.

@officialstalked 3 ай бұрын

so turns out arkham shadow is the arkham version of the long halloween

@b1ackspid3r43 9 ай бұрын

My best guess for those changes with Moroni, Grundy & Falcone are... 1. Batman is able to push Moroni out of the way of Holiday's bullet saving him, 2. Grundy was probably replaced by Killer Croc since he tends to hide out in the sewers 3. Since Batman had a disruptor at this point, I'm assuming that Batman disrupted Two-Face's gun stopping him from killing Falcone

@blistow3519 9 ай бұрын

For Moroni I can also see a situation where he isn’t targeted in the Arkham universe. Since holiday is attack mob family’s and as by this point there’s more mob family’s in play like penguin maybe some else dies in this universe like a penguin high up (Or even the presence of robin changes things as unlike the comic he’s active during all this. Just based on Arkham timeline)

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

@@blistow3519 Also Black Mask's organization. If he shows up in an Arkham Origins sequel adapting TLH, it'd be a cool way to bring him back in a more pivotal role that lets him shine.

@bat-seal6293 5 ай бұрын

@@blistow3519 to add onto your point it could be Rupert Thorne that's killed in this version and maybe Emperor Penguin is introduced and killed

@blistow3519 5 ай бұрын

@@bat-seal6293 that’s definitely possible and an interesting idea

@dawudabdulali3827 9 ай бұрын

Dang we couldve gotten this as a arkham origins 2 but NO we get SSKITJL a game NOBODY asked for.

@nathanadams7595 9 ай бұрын

This would’ve been sick

@Hallowpool193 9 ай бұрын

This would be better then suicide squad

@eznf98 9 ай бұрын

I actually like SSKTJL and we can still get this. If they make a sequel to Origins

@Bugplanet8840 9 ай бұрын

⁠ @eznf98 But if you could only choose one would you rather have kill the Arkhamverse or Arkham Origins 2?

@dawudabdulali3827 9 ай бұрын

@@eznf98 but bro we waited nearly a decade for this

@georgekawert4105 9 ай бұрын

It's mind-blowing the amount of ways the Arkham Universe could have continued without Suicide Squat: Kill the Arkhamvers. Your idea literally could've been the original idea for WB Montreal Origins sequel. Batman: Arkham Halloween. Personally, and this is just my opinion but I prefer the Arkham Beyond Damian Wayne game that was going to be the sequel to Arkham Knight. But hey at least in the end of the day we can have headcanons for what it could have been in the Arkham Universe.

@Rhyciz 9 ай бұрын

The Arkhamverse will continue according to James Gunn. DLC will probably reset the game’s events or otherwise retcon them so we can get back to ground zero.

@georgekawert4105 9 ай бұрын

@@Rhyciz If that really happens, it's good and probably will be something those who still care will look forward to. But for me it's over, and nothing, is going to make me to care if this universe continues or not.

@Rhyciz 9 ай бұрын

@@georgekawert4105 I respect and understand your opinion. At least we have four of the best superhero games ever made plus a bunch of tie-in comics from the golden era, which even I’ll admit is well over.

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

@@georgekawert4105 I'd love if we got both. An Arkham prequel trilogy with Arkham Origins 2 and 3 and a sequel trilogy with Batman Beyond. It'd be like Star Wars with three overall trilogies set across different periods time but this time all in the same setting.

@sethhawkins4152 9 ай бұрын

@@Rhycizit is continuing, with a VR game.....

@The_Phantasm 9 ай бұрын

0:47 That's actually incorrect. In the comic, it was Harvey that initially started the killings and after he stopped, it was Gilda that took up the role of Holiday, which Harvey didn't realise until the very end and kept it a secret. Alberto Falcone was never actually the Holiday killer and only mistakenly thought he was because of his mental disorder.

@kugenarukira8950 9 ай бұрын

Alberto WAS a copycat killer though.

@GothamPaladin 9 ай бұрын

Generally it’s seen that Gilda started the killings, then Albert, then Two-Face when he went after Carmine Falcone

@The_Phantasm 9 ай бұрын

@@GothamPaladin In the games perhaps but not in the comic. If you remember after Alberto's (I think you said Albert) supposed "death" on the boat, Gilda commented on Harvey's clothes being wet despite not raining, which hinted that he swam to the boat.

@deadpilled2942 9 ай бұрын

@@The_PhantasmGreat, I have to be a detective just to read a comic book. Lol

@nameynamename3758 9 ай бұрын

it gets very confusing

@effpe_ 9 ай бұрын

I think that "The Long Halloween" is one of the best Batman stories ever and btw, I just love these type of videos, hope we'll see more of this in the future. Keep up bro

@Ggggg-m2y 9 ай бұрын

I love the Long Halloween and I would love to see a Long Halloween game. It could really lean into the detective angle as well as having a huge roster of villains like all of the Arkham games. Arkham City helped repopularise Calendar Man as well. We should get another Arkham trilogy of prequels. A Long Halloween game and maybe a game where we see Robin. Hopefully a Dark Victory adaptation which is my favourite Batman comic.

@doomdimensiondweller5627 Ай бұрын

Also Alfred at the beginning of the professor pyg side quest in knight says something like "these killings are like the murders at the beginning of your career, those were on Halloween to and it was a long one"

@thoughtful1878 3 ай бұрын

After shadow would love to see an updated video on this unless shadow is the long Halloween or if long Halloween happened maybe in like year 4, but in short would love to see an updated video on this.

@evanwirth7881 9 ай бұрын

I honestly think croc makes more sense that Grundy since it was in the sewers and that’s where croc usually hangs out

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

I agree and my thinking was that if it was up to me, I would've always put Killer Croc in the original story instead. He's already appeared in Origins as part of the criminal underworld and is a more established character in the series overall.

@AshtonRogers-se1zj 9 ай бұрын

The Long Halloween has been my favorite Batman story ever since I read it for the first time back in the late '90s. ...Christ,I'm old! Ugh!

@michaelbernaschina7811 6 ай бұрын

A little late to the party here, but I always kinda figured that Calendar Man was the Holiday Killer, or at least one of the Holiday Killers in the Arkhamverse, since Origins begins with him on death row for a year-long string of holiday-themed murders.

@blistow3519 9 ай бұрын

Also a change from the comics is Robin Arkham timeline wise Dick Grayson Robin is in his early days of being active (unless I’m mistaken) which means he’s probably involved in this. Which is also interesting as he’s got his own complicated relationship with one of the mob family’s as they killed his parents meaning he might be think holiday isn’t that bad

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

Dick becomes Robin in Batman's 3rd year so if that was also the case in the Arkhamverse and The Long Halloween's events took place the following year after Origins, then it means that he was likely involved. It's following that line of thought that I get my idea for an Arkham Origins 2 being an adaptation of both TLH/Dark Victory. They'd be a cool layer of Dick being involved in a story centered on mob families and Tony Zucco's being part of that. It's Batman's 3rd year, he's more open to allies now in Gordon and Dent, the mob is the central force of crime in Gotham but are in decline, and the freaks are gaining more notoriety. Dick joins in the midway through the story, stumbles on the batcave and helps Batman with the case by providing an angle he doesn't see. Eventually becoming Robin before the climax. Maybe joining the aforementioned trio.

@blistow3519 9 ай бұрын

@@themadtitan7603 yeah I’ve always felt that the origins multiplayer is meant to depict a bit of what is going on at that point in time with freaks VS mob and batman and robin right In the middle (yes I know the mode is joker vs bane but canon wise that doesn’t make sense for bane at that point so I’m assuming he’s none canon and more of a boss character as they need one and his faction is more organised crime) If you can expect that bane thing as the case that would mean online is showing Gotham right in the middle of a gang war (which is happening very early in Dick time as robin) but this war is the freaks verse the mob and I can completely see holiday in the background potential killing players on both sides Honestly to me this idea would make an amazing Arkham game that could really focus on both Dick and Bruce

@directorliam 9 ай бұрын

What an awesome deep dive! Once again it’s proven how detailed and rich and amazing the Arkhamverse is!

@rayansdsd 9 ай бұрын

Funny that every time that two-face is said, on the subtitles, it's written three-face, four-face, etc..

@zachsummers2872 4 ай бұрын

This just makes more sense with the story of Arkham Shadow, where we see Batman, Gordon, and Harvey teaming up and Scarecrow getting his start, also they have said that Blackgate is canon but not sure about Grundy. A sequel to Shadow about the Long Halloween would be insane.

@Revali69420 9 ай бұрын

Bro this is what makes these games incredible they have actually comic related lore, but suicide squad has what some graffiti and a couple of references it has no intestine lore within in metropolis. Also I would really want a Batman white knight game made by Rocksteady just cause it has joker and feels like a story that could have a great adaption in game form.

@arjunwali9885 9 ай бұрын

I think the movie did a great job adapting and even improving on the comic by giving Gilda a far more personal motivation to attack the Falcone’s (having her and Alberto be former lovers and carmine breaking them up and taking her kid from her and Alberto not standing up for her) it also makes the baby bottle nipple a lot more unique

@unnoticed9988 9 ай бұрын

It’s things like this on why the Arkham series is legit amazing, great vid

@Rockgem12 6 ай бұрын

20:06 if it wasn’t Grundy and he went into the sewers yeah no, he met croc, he would 100% sympathize with Harvey and yeah, I could see him helping two face

@arthand7672 Ай бұрын

We seriously need an origins 2 that focuses on the long haloween. The only problem is that the arkham games usually take place over one night where batman has to put all the bad guys away at once. Having to spread out the story over a year could make it more complicated but also lead to opportunities where the finale is changed based off of what characters you stopped and put away.

@mayonnaise3959 8 күн бұрын

Long Halloween wouldn’t work as a game. And Arkham shadow pretty much confirmed it didn’t happen

@Brazzo186 9 ай бұрын

Love this video, thanks for your work ❤

@someminecraftplayer8557 9 ай бұрын

Glad to see another Batman Year one fan! It's my personal favorite batman comic as well.

@andresbekris 9 ай бұрын

Bro this is a banger! I've been wanting to know if the long halloween actually happened in the arkham saga, thanks for covering it !

@Arkhambatpro564 9 ай бұрын

i want an origins sequel that is based around the long halloween

@CausticSalsa 8 ай бұрын

Lmao love the ending, I was just about to say that this could be a great game. I think a long halloween game in the Origins style would be great. With the super dramatic tone and cutscenes, the crime reconstructions and internal dialogue Batman has as he's thinking through the crimes, all that would just be perfect for this storyline. I've never read or seen the long halloween, just saying this going off this video. I think the storyline you laid out makes a lot of sense.

@ycarusgamer5187 3 ай бұрын

It would be interesting to see Adaptation of year 2 and 3 of Batman and also of dark victory and long Halloween being the main focus of the second game and the third game and bringing the origin of the 3 Robins and Batgirl beyond the news villains in Arkham Origins 2 and 3 in the future like: Mad Monk,Doctor Death,KgBeast,Victor Zas,Cornelius Stirk,Signalman,Ivy Poison,Clayface,Scarecrow,Ras al Ghul,the Court of Owls,Ratcatcher,Killer Moth,Ventriloquist/Scarface and the Spoot they should return since they are very wronged and it would be amazing to see them in the Batman Arkham universe since some of them already exist in this game universe and it would also be cool if they included the characters Faye Gunn/Ma Gunn,the Beggar Who Defeated Batman and Henri Ducard in the future game and I hope this second game is called Batman Arkham origns: the day of Halloween or just be called Batman Arkham Origins: the Long Halloween 🤔😌👍🙏🙏 like and bye!

@connordougherty9860 2 ай бұрын

As for the newest Arkham game the explanation is unique yet still fits the story. “Matches” is the one who scars Harvey on accident yet Matches is just Bruce Wayne who has gone undercover. Matches worked for Falcone and also explains why Batman feels he’s failed Harvey.

@kalymmatthews9178 9 ай бұрын

I love batman and superman the both of them was the st1 superheros that came in to my life and can't forget about the one and only spider man

@GeraltOfRiviaI 3 ай бұрын

@GothamPaladin how does this work with Arkham shadow now?

@Logan-yt1lj 9 ай бұрын

If they ever did a Arkham Origins 2 they would’ve definitely done this story line

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

An Arkham Origins 2 which adapts The Long Halloween and Dark Victory been my dream game for years now. That's how I'd continue the Arkham games plus a third entry and a Batman Beyond trilogy.

@Logan-yt1lj 9 ай бұрын

@@themadtitan7603 just like starwars

@malusofficial 9 ай бұрын

Very well done Paladin, Ras Al Ghul should start calling you the detective 😅

@caolanmcflynn2412 9 ай бұрын

A Arkham universe timeline video would be good

@heisenberg8764 27 күн бұрын

18:00 nice arkham origins background soundtrack

@lord_egg 2 ай бұрын

I really want them to release some Arkham graphic novels that adapt these big stories into the Arkhamverse. Like we know The Killing Joke happened but Barbara was by herself when Joker turned up. So what other things were different? Did Joker still kidnap Gordon and do that whole weird ass theme park thing or not? What were the events that lead up to Jason's death/kidnapping? Did he actually die and get resurrected or was it a fake out thing? What are the events that led to Nightwing's retirement as Robin? It's all these little things that we know happen in almost every universe but the specifics around them are different. I just want to read this iteration of them.

@grbhighlights9401 9 ай бұрын

A Batman Arkham Origins sequel with the Long Halloween storyline would literally be perfection. Arkham Origin’s is set in Christmas time, so just have a trilogy set on Holiday based Batman stories lmao

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

Maybe, in line with the original story and sequels going bigger, it isn't just set on Halloween but spans a year of holidays - starting on Halloween and ending on it the following year. Also because Arkham Knight already did the Halloween night theme. It's a cool theme for a game story imo and it could give us the longer Arkham campaign that many have clamored for. Although, I like the idea of a different holiday theme for each entry of the trilogy and it would be consistent with each taking place on night/day.

@d1poorpeoplehater 9 ай бұрын

5:10 haha three face lmao

@DRUBERPLAYS 8 ай бұрын

I’d love to see you cover the Arkham story of the League of Assassins!

@TopG2004_ 9 ай бұрын

Wish they would make a game on the long Halloween

@WBCmate 9 ай бұрын

Good video bro

@arjunwali9885 9 ай бұрын

Great vid! Just a small note, the skeevers family weren’t the assassins that Falcone hired to kill Dent, it was the Sullivan family. Jefferson Skeevers was the pimp that Batman forced to snitch in Year One.

@GothamPaladin 9 ай бұрын

You’re right! I just got it mixed up haha

@DRUBERPLAYS 8 ай бұрын

Great video man! New sub here! Curious though, do you have any other videos on the channel that tell the Arkham version of major Batman events? Like maybe Bane breaking Batman's back? Thanks and keep up the good work!

@man.actual 3 ай бұрын

Long Halloween is the BEST Batman limited run

@Alex-c9h6v 9 ай бұрын

We see Grundy in Blackgate, so if you consider it canon, he met Batman beforehand.

@stephenchambers7972 9 ай бұрын

i would die for a triple A deathstroke game ngl.

@kyseangalloway2022 7 ай бұрын

We could have a Arkham origins sequel based directly from the iconic long Halloween storyline just imagine the Arkham version of holiday

@DJwhiskerzXD 9 ай бұрын

Honestly though, an Arkham Long Halloween game would go sooooo hard

@TheDutchOgre90 5 ай бұрын

Lovely the subtitles says four Face and Six Face 😂

@deandanielson8950 9 ай бұрын

you remember the mob right the guys who burnt half our face off because we couldn’t get to you !!!-two face Arkham knight

@Vadim_Slastihin 6 ай бұрын

Idk if someone already told you but Batman meet Solomon in origins Blackgate. He's one of the bosses there. Also we don't know if Gilda was actually a hollyday killer, she coul'd be just crazy because of her loss for all we know. Even the creator of comic himself haven't confirmed it.

@Vergil_cage 9 ай бұрын

They can make the arkham long halloween game because young batman is voiced by the different actor

@jlpgamin 9 ай бұрын

I do agree with this except for Catwomans part I remember it being stated somewhere and even put on the wiki that she was adopted and forced to fend for herself by the Falcone's but not a straight up daughter

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

On her (Post-Crisis) wiki page, it states under notes it's not entirely confirmed but there's lots of evidence to support it being the case that even Selina belives it.

@MelchVagquest 9 ай бұрын

Damn! I thought we reached a point where “Falcone” would be pronounced properly after the Batman corrected the pronunciation from Batman Begins

@ontos8914 4 ай бұрын

Ask an Italian it’s Fal-kohn-ee

@danyalmirza1 2 ай бұрын

Give us a proper Arkham game with court of owls as the main antagonists

@Deez561 9 ай бұрын

We need this as an Arkham game

@Crizzly122 9 ай бұрын

What exactly makes you think Grundy's appearance in City is the first time Batman sees him? I don't think there's any dialogue to suggest that

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

It may be one of those things where technically Batman never says anything (literally, he just looks at him stoically in silence) but it's framed in a way where it comes off like his first time. I think if the indication was Batman met him before like a lot of his villains in RS' trilogy, the writers would've added a line to confirm it. Then there's also Batman Arkham Origins: Blackgate.

@GothamPaladin 9 ай бұрын

I suppose there’s no real evidence for it, but the way Batman sees Grundy in Arkham City and how thugs prior talk about Grundy like he’s a myth, paints the picture as if this is the first time Batman meets him

@themadtitan7603 8 ай бұрын

@@GothamPaladin That was my response to the OP too. There isn't a line outright stating this is the first time he saw Grundy but it's framed and built up to that way. Also what about his appearance in Batman Arkham Origins: Blackgate or are you not counting it as canon?

@GothamPaladin 7 ай бұрын

@@themadtitan7603Honestly, idk whether that games canon or not to me, my first thought is no but Arkham lore is all over the place

@jacklang4114 9 ай бұрын

Ah gotta love Arkham oranges😂😂😂

@droga5262 3 ай бұрын

17:35 How many months?!?!

@domnulalex1433 9 ай бұрын

never knew the arkham franchise had the long Halloween happen

@rachelwilliams4386 9 ай бұрын

I want to play Origins so bad now lmao I hope they remake it like the trilogy 😭 Also I love the caption jokes

@Fakie_GOAT69 Ай бұрын

Arkham oranges 😂 2:44

@Not-spelt-like-at 9 ай бұрын

5:47 it says four face in the subtitles

@dorememe8548 4 ай бұрын

5:12 Earlier, it says Three-Face. Lol. 😅

@Joey-vs4fr 9 ай бұрын

WB Montreal were planning on a Suicide Squad game, hopefully that game can happen but the squad has to break into the ruins of Blackgate Imagine if you play the game as the squad or Batman, same story but from a different perspective, I think that would make for another AO game Not saying I prefer that over a LH game but I think about that more Good stuff 👍

@TorturedMongoose2003 6 ай бұрын

Imagine this as a bullblown open world dlc for Arkham knight...

@robertwhite97477 9 ай бұрын

we need a batman arkham origins long halloween game

@henrygambles3652 9 ай бұрын

I like the idea but I think it’s a missed opportunity not to have Harvey murder Falcone in cold blood, it signifies a turn to the dark side and leaving his old DA path behind

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

It'd also be a cool thematic turning point to represent the turning tides of crime in Gotham from the old ways of the mob to the new, burgeoning and gimmicky class of criminal - the freaks. It'd be an epic arc for Harvey imo if we get to know him as an ally and friend, see his passion for justice and fight against the mob, as well as his struggles and darker side then it all culminates in a climax where he marches in with criminals to kill the biggest of the old guard.

@henrygambles3652 9 ай бұрын

@@themadtitan7603 yeah that works too, showing that it is the age of the Super criminals and the end of regular mobsters

@BauthorFowler 9 ай бұрын

I guess I have to read TLH again because I don't remember Gilda Dent at ALL, let alone that she was also a killer. Oh, and I'm pretty sure Calendar Man was the Holiday Killer in the Arkham Universe. Remember, he WAS one of Gotham City's "most heinous and prolific killers," after all.

@themadtitan7603 9 ай бұрын

It'd tie in well Harvey/Two-Face locking him up in the basement of the Courthouse he took over.

@bendyboy7179 9 ай бұрын

Why do the on screen subtitles say a higher number every time he says two face?

@ToxicCatMC 9 ай бұрын

This is why another Arkham game is inevitable, it’s been almost 9 years since the release of Arkham knight and there are still fans making videos about theories to expand on arkhams timeline that get thousands to millions of views, the demand is there. These dumbasses at WB will probably make a batwoman game next I stg

@swordimproved 9 ай бұрын

Is this a reload? I could’ve sworn I saw this thumbnail before today

@blistow3519 9 ай бұрын

Did he show it or parts of it in a short taking about this subject at one point?

@nathanadams7595 9 ай бұрын

It still amazes me how people are still making Arkham videos 8 years after the last games release Happy you guys are though

@ninjacleve 4 ай бұрын

I wonder if no man’s land happen in the arkhamverse

@dp.301 9 ай бұрын

HE’S SOOOOOO HANDSOME😩😩😩

@Childofgotham7624 2 ай бұрын

Wait I thought Gilda was holiday in the animated movie

@eznf98 9 ай бұрын

How many faces are there? I already seen 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13

@ochher2873 9 ай бұрын

I’m stuck in his basement. 😮😢

@Jokuthesaiyangod 9 ай бұрын

I have a ldea why not a make a full lore about how Arkham was formed all the way it is now I think that would be something new and fresh I love your video but I know this might get ignored anyway 😊