Batman Arkham's Long Halloween

What's up people! Today I break down how the Arkham Long Halloween occurred in this universe and compare it to the original comic. Enjoy!
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0:00 Intro
1:36 When did the Long Halloween occur in the Arkham Universe?
3:50 First Long Halloween Killing
4:42 Gilda Dent
6:00 Harvey Dent's Role
7:40 Catwoman
11:03 Albert Falcone
13:22 Differences between the comic and the Arkham Universe
15:31 Holiday killings in the Arkham Universe
17:25 Everything Put Together
22:31 Conclusion
Thumbnail inspired by ‪@Knerdd‬!
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[@HallowPool193]

The long Halloween is one of if not the best Batman story line ever

[@deadpilled2942]

Because writers, and artists didn't do the whole, "I'll show my take on the character, and my own spin on the story" the writers and artists just wanted to make a good Batman story without any gimmicks.

[@thesurp72520]

The way that the number of faces that Harvey has increases as the video goes on is so funny to me.

[@MrFedoraFilm]

Honestly, a Batman Arkham game centered on The Long Halloween storyline, with elements of its sequel story, Dark Victory, would have been awesome. Call it, Batman: Arkham Halloween, sequel to Arkham Origins. Would have been awesome.

[@themadtitan7603]

Agreed. That exactly has been my dream game for years now. And since Arkham Origins occupied the Year 2 slot in Batman's career, they could adapt both The Long Halloween/Dark Victory, yeah. Featuring a storyline like the former's while being a Year 3 story introducing Dick Grayson's Robin like the latter.

[@jasonx1174]

I would have taken that or a court of owls story after Arkham Origins.

[@themadtitan7603]

​@@jasonx1174 I think the Court of Owls would work better for Arkham Origins 3 as the big, behind the scenes antagonists for the trilogy capper. I'd like for Origins 2 to be a (relatively) lesser in scale detective story focusing on Batman mentoring a Robin, Harvey Dent's downfall, and the freaks taking over the criminal underworld.

[@jasonx1174]

@themadtitan7603 That's a better idea than me thinking we only needed a 2nd game after Origins. Would have been cool and just freaking crazy to see those parts in Batman's career before we even got to Asylum. And I'm sure that after we played Origins 3, we would have seen a teaser in the credits that would've lead to Arkham Asylum. Reminding is of where it all still leads to where it started in the series.

[@dawudabdulali3827]

Dang we couldve gotten this as a arkham origins 2 but NO we get SSKITJL a game NOBODY asked for.

[@nathanadams7595]

This would’ve been sick

[@HallowPool193]

This would be better then suicide squad

[@eznf98]

I actually like SSKTJL and we can still get this. If they make a sequel to Origins

[@Bugplanet8840]

⁠ @eznf98 But if you could only choose one would you rather have kill the Arkhamverse or Arkham Origins 2?

[@dawudabdulali3827]

​@@eznf98 but bro we waited nearly a decade for this

[@b1ackspid3r43]

My best guess for those changes with Moroni, Grundy & Falcone are... 1. Batman is able to push Moroni out of the way of Holiday's bullet saving him, 2. Grundy was probably replaced by Killer Croc since he tends to hide out in the sewers 3. Since Batman had a disruptor at this point, I'm assuming that Batman disrupted Two-Face's gun stopping him from killing Falcone

[@blistow3519]

For Moroni I can also see a situation where he isn’t targeted in the Arkham universe. Since holiday is attack mob family’s and as by this point there’s more mob family’s in play like penguin maybe some else dies in this universe like a penguin high up (Or even the presence of robin changes things as unlike the comic he’s active during all this. Just based on Arkham timeline)

[@themadtitan7603]

@@blistow3519 Also Black Mask's organization. If he shows up in an Arkham Origins sequel adapting TLH, it'd be a cool way to bring him back in a more pivotal role that lets him shine.

[@georgekawert4105]

It's mind-blowing the amount of ways the Arkham Universe could have continued without Suicide Squat: Kill the Arkhamvers. Your idea literally could've been the original idea for WB Montreal Origins sequel. Batman: Arkham Halloween. Personally, and this is just my opinion but I prefer the Arkham Beyond Damian Wayne game that was going to be the sequel to Arkham Knight. But hey at least in the end of the day we can have headcanons for what it could have been in the Arkham Universe.

[@Rhyciz]

The Arkhamverse will continue according to James Gunn. DLC will probably reset the game’s events or otherwise retcon them so we can get back to ground zero.

[@georgekawert4105]

​@@Rhyciz If that really happens, it's good and probably will be something those who still care will look forward to. But for me it's over, and nothing, is going to make me to care if this universe continues or not.

[@Rhyciz]

@@georgekawert4105 I respect and understand your opinion. At least we have four of the best superhero games ever made plus a bunch of tie-in comics from the golden era, which even I’ll admit is well over.

[@themadtitan7603]

​@@georgekawert4105 I'd love if we got both. An Arkham prequel trilogy with Arkham Origins 2 and 3 and a sequel trilogy with Batman Beyond. It'd be like Star Wars with three overall trilogies set across different periods time but this time all in the same setting.

[@sethhawkins4152]

​@@Rhycizit is continuing, with a VR game.....

[@AD12428]

I love the Long Halloween and I would love to see a Long Halloween game. It could really lean into the detective angle as well as having a huge roster of villains like all of the Arkham games. Arkham City helped repopularise Calendar Man as well. We should get another Arkham trilogy of prequels. A Long Halloween game and maybe a game where we see Robin. Hopefully a Dark Victory adaptation which is my favourite Batman comic.

[@The_Phantasm]

0:47 That's actually incorrect. In the comic, it was Harvey that initially started the killings and after he stopped, it was Gilda that took up the role of Holiday, which Harvey didn't realise until the very end and kept it a secret. Alberto Falcone was never actually the Holiday killer and only mistakenly thought he was because of his mental disorder.

[@kugenarukira8950]

Alberto WAS a copycat killer though.

[@GothamPaladin]

Generally it’s seen that Gilda started the killings, then Albert, then Two-Face when he went after Carmine Falcone

[@The_Phantasm]

@@GothamPaladin In the games perhaps but not in the comic. If you remember after Alberto's (I think you said Albert) supposed "death" on the boat, Gilda commented on Harvey's clothes being wet despite not raining, which hinted that he swam to the boat.

[@deadpilled2942]

​@@The_PhantasmGreat, I have to be a detective just to read a comic book. Lol

[@nameynamename3758]

it gets very confusing

[@AshtonRogers-se1zj]

The Long Halloween has been my favorite Batman story ever since I read it for the first time back in the late '90s. ...Christ,I'm old! Ugh!

[@evanwirth7881]

I honestly think croc makes more sense that Grundy since it was in the sewers and that’s where croc usually hangs out

[@themadtitan7603]

I agree and my thinking was that if it was up to me, I would've always put Killer Croc in the original story instead. He's already appeared in Origins as part of the criminal underworld and is a more established character in the series overall.

[@REaDComicsau]

What an awesome deep dive! Once again it’s proven how detailed and rich and amazing the Arkhamverse is!

[@Revali69420]

Bro this is what makes these games incredible they have actually comic related lore, but suicide squad has what some graffiti and a couple of references it has no intestine lore within in metropolis. Also I would really want a Batman white knight game made by Rocksteady just cause it has joker and feels like a story that could have a great adaption in game form.

[@blistow3519]

Also a change from the comics is Robin Arkham timeline wise Dick Grayson Robin is in his early days of being active (unless I’m mistaken) which means he’s probably involved in this. Which is also interesting as he’s got his own complicated relationship with one of the mob family’s as they killed his parents meaning he might be think holiday isn’t that bad

[@themadtitan7603]

Dick becomes Robin in Batman's 3rd year so if that was also the case in the Arkhamverse and The Long Halloween's events took place the following year after Origins, then it means that he was likely involved. It's following that line of thought that I get my idea for an Arkham Origins 2 being an adaptation of both TLH/Dark Victory. They'd be a cool layer of Dick being involved in a story centered on mob families and Tony Zucco's being part of that. It's Batman's 3rd year, he's more open to allies now in Gordon and Dent, the mob is the central force of crime in Gotham but are in decline, and the freaks are gaining more notoriety. Dick joins in the midway through the story, stumbles on the batcave and helps Batman with the case by providing an angle he doesn't see. Eventually becoming Robin before the climax. Maybe joining the aforementioned trio.

[@blistow3519]

@@themadtitan7603 yeah I’ve always felt that the origins multiplayer is meant to depict a bit of what is going on at that point in time with freaks VS mob and batman and robin right In the middle (yes I know the mode is joker vs bane but canon wise that doesn’t make sense for bane at that point so I’m assuming he’s none canon and more of a boss character as they need one and his faction is more organised crime) If you can expect that bane thing as the case that would mean online is showing Gotham right in the middle of a gang war (which is happening very early in Dick time as robin) but this war is the freaks verse the mob and I can completely see holiday in the background potential killing players on both sides Honestly to me this idea would make an amazing Arkham game that could really focus on both Dick and Bruce

[@arjunwali9885]

I think the movie did a great job adapting and even improving on the comic by giving Gilda a far more personal motivation to attack the Falcone’s (having her and Alberto be former lovers and carmine breaking them up and taking her kid from her and Alberto not standing up for her) it also makes the baby bottle nipple a lot more unique

[@effpe_]

I think that "The Long Halloween" is one of the best Batman stories ever and btw, I just love these type of videos, hope we'll see more of this in the future. Keep up bro

[@LoganBradbury-yt1lj]

If they ever did a Arkham Origins 2 they would’ve definitely done this story line

[@themadtitan7603]

An Arkham Origins 2 which adapts The Long Halloween and Dark Victory been my dream game for years now. That's how I'd continue the Arkham games plus a third entry and a Batman Beyond trilogy.

[@LoganBradbury-yt1lj]

@@themadtitan7603 just like starwars

[@Brazzo186]

Love this video, thanks for your work ❤

[@Arkhambatpro564]

i want an origins sequel that is based around the long halloween

[@unnoticed9988]

It’s things like this on why the Arkham series is legit amazing, great vid

[@kalymmatthews9178]

I love batman and superman the both of them was the st1 superheros that came in to my life and can't forget about the one and only spider man

[@someminecraftplayer8557]

Glad to see another Batman Year one fan! It's my personal favorite batman comic as well.

[@andresbekris]

Bro this is a banger! I've been wanting to know if the long halloween actually happened in the arkham saga, thanks for covering it !

[@WBCmate]

Good video bro

[@rayansdsd]

Funny that every time that two-face is said, on the subtitles, it's written three-face, four-face, etc..

[@cherries7734]

5:10 haha three face lmao

[@stephenchambers7972]

i would die for a triple A deathstroke game ngl.

[@caolanmcflynn2412]

A Arkham universe timeline video would be good

[@DRUBERPLAYS]

I’d love to see you cover the Arkham story of the League of Assassins!

[@MalusOfficial]

Very well done Paladin, Ras Al Ghul should start calling you the detective 😅

[@CausticSalsa]

Lmao love the ending, I was just about to say that this could be a great game. I think a long halloween game in the Origins style would be great. With the super dramatic tone and cutscenes, the crime reconstructions and internal dialogue Batman has as he's thinking through the crimes, all that would just be perfect for this storyline. I've never read or seen the long halloween, just saying this going off this video. I think the storyline you laid out makes a lot of sense.

[@TopG2004_]

Wish they would make a game on the long Halloween

[@DRUBERPLAYS]

Great video man! New sub here! Curious though, do you have any other videos on the channel that tell the Arkham version of major Batman events? Like maybe Bane breaking Batman's back? Thanks and keep up the good work!

[@kyseangalloway2022]

We could have a Arkham origins sequel based directly from the iconic long Halloween storyline just imagine the Arkham version of holiday

[@user-gk5ni2yh4u]

We see Grundy in Blackgate, so if you consider it canon, he met Batman beforehand.

[@MelchVagquest]

Damn! I thought we reached a point where “Falcone” would be pronounced properly after the Batman corrected the pronunciation from Batman Begins

[@Deez561]

We need this as an Arkham game

[@DJwhiskerzXD]

Honestly though, an Arkham Long Halloween game would go sooooo hard

[@ChrisNihilus]

As an Italian, the fact that everybody calls Carmine "Carmain" is incredibly silly. Good video though.

[@arjunwali9885]

Great vid! Just a small note, the skeevers family weren’t the assassins that Falcone hired to kill Dent, it was the Sullivan family. Jefferson Skeevers was the pimp that Batman forced to snitch in Year One.

[@GothamPaladin]

You’re right! I just got it mixed up haha

[@domnulalex1433]

never knew the arkham franchise had the long Halloween happen

[@grbhighlights9401]

A Batman Arkham Origins sequel with the Long Halloween storyline would literally be perfection. Arkham Origin’s is set in Christmas time, so just have a trilogy set on Holiday based Batman stories lmao

[@themadtitan7603]

Maybe, in line with the original story and sequels going bigger, it isn't just set on Halloween but spans a year of holidays - starting on Halloween and ending on it the following year. Also because Arkham Knight already did the Halloween night theme. It's a cool theme for a game story imo and it could give us the longer Arkham campaign that many have clamored for. Although, I like the idea of a different holiday theme for each entry of the trilogy and it would be consistent with each taking place on night/day.

[@jlpgamin]

I do agree with this except for Catwomans part I remember it being stated somewhere and even put on the wiki that she was adopted and forced to fend for herself by the Falcone's but not a straight up daughter

[@themadtitan7603]

On her (Post-Crisis) wiki page, it states under notes it's not entirely confirmed but there's lots of evidence to support it being the case that even Selina belives it.

[@jacklang4114]

Ah gotta love Arkham oranges😂😂😂

[@Vergil_cage]

They can make the arkham long halloween game because young batman is voiced by the different actor

[@eznf98]

How many faces are there? I already seen 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13

[@deandanielson8950]

you remember the mob right the guys who burnt half our face off because we couldn’t get to you !!!-two face Arkham knight

[@robertwhite97477]

we need a batman arkham origins long halloween game

[@bendyboy7179]

Why do the on screen subtitles say a higher number every time he says two face?

[@Not-spelt-like-at]

5:47 it says four face in the subtitles

[@rachelwilliams4386]

I want to play Origins so bad now lmao I hope they remake it like the trilogy 😭 Also I love the caption jokes

[@nathanadams7595]

It still amazes me how people are still making Arkham videos 8 years after the last games release Happy you guys are though

[@NamelessRoe]

What a handsome guy!

[@ochher2873]

I’m stuck in his basement. 😮😢

[@dp.301]

HE’S SOOOOOO HANDSOME😩😩😩

[@Crizzly122]

What exactly makes you think Grundy's appearance in City is the first time Batman sees him? I don't think there's any dialogue to suggest that

[@themadtitan7603]

It may be one of those things where technically Batman never says anything (literally, he just looks at him stoically in silence) but it's framed in a way where it comes off like his first time. I think if the indication was Batman met him before like a lot of his villains in RS' trilogy, the writers would've added a line to confirm it. Then there's also Batman Arkham Origins: Blackgate.

[@GothamPaladin]

I suppose there’s no real evidence for it, but the way Batman sees Grundy in Arkham City and how thugs prior talk about Grundy like he’s a myth, paints the picture as if this is the first time Batman meets him

[@themadtitan7603]

​@@GothamPaladin That was my response to the OP too. There isn't a line outright stating this is the first time he saw Grundy but it's framed and built up to that way. Also what about his appearance in Batman Arkham Origins: Blackgate or are you not counting it as canon?

[@GothamPaladin]

@@themadtitan7603Honestly, idk whether that games canon or not to me, my first thought is no but Arkham lore is all over the place

[@Joey-vs4fr]

WB Montreal were planning on a Suicide Squad game, hopefully that game can happen but the squad has to break into the ruins of Blackgate Imagine if you play the game as the squad or Batman, same story but from a different perspective, I think that would make for another AO game Not saying I prefer that over a LH game but I think about that more Good stuff 👍

[@Jokuthesaiyangod]

I have a ldea why not a make a full lore about how Arkham was formed all the way it is now I think that would be something new and fresh I love your video but I know this might get ignored anyway 😊

[@swordimproved]

Is this a reload? I could’ve sworn I saw this thumbnail before today

[@blistow3519]

Did he show it or parts of it in a short taking about this subject at one point?

[@hydragaming4562]

Replace gruundy with killer crok

[@ggt47]

This could have been a perfect game. 🙄😥😭

[@henrygambles3652]

I like the idea but I think it’s a missed opportunity not to have Harvey murder Falcone in cold blood, it signifies a turn to the dark side and leaving his old DA path behind

[@themadtitan7603]

It'd also be a cool thematic turning point to represent the turning tides of crime in Gotham from the old ways of the mob to the new, burgeoning and gimmicky class of criminal - the freaks. It'd be an epic arc for Harvey imo if we get to know him as an ally and friend, see his passion for justice and fight against the mob, as well as his struggles and darker side then it all culminates in a climax where he marches in with criminals to kill the biggest of the old guard.

[@henrygambles3652]

@@themadtitan7603 yeah that works too, showing that it is the age of the Super criminals and the end of regular mobsters

[@BauthorFowler]

I guess I have to read TLH again because I don't remember Gilda Dent at ALL, let alone that she was also a killer. Oh, and I'm pretty sure Calendar Man was the Holiday Killer in the Arkham Universe. Remember, he WAS one of Gotham City's "most heinous and prolific killers," after all.

[@themadtitan7603]

It'd tie in well Harvey/Two-Face locking him up in the basement of the Courthouse he took over.

[@ToxicCatMC]

This is why another Arkham game is inevitable, it’s been almost 9 years since the release of Arkham knight and there are still fans making videos about theories to expand on arkhams timeline that get thousands to millions of views, the demand is there. These dumbasses at WB will probably make a batwoman game next I stg

[@brianantonetti1775]

Please please please follow this up with Arkham Dark Victory

[@lamelev]

Falconeeeee, lmao i always hated that pronunciation.

[@altalia07]

Super handsome😻💪🏽

[@braydenmiller7548]

Here me out, Batman: Arkham Origins 2. Batman: Arkham Holiday or Batman: Arkham Halloween

[@altalia07]

My biggest wish is a remastered Origins and a sequel that release together🥲🥲

[@JasonWoods687]

You’re handsome

[@simonko3724]

u handsome

[@Caydog01]

You’re so handsome

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

(V) D

[@bobboberts4888]

What is up with these subtitles 💀💀💀

[@noahdelacruz3285]

It's my birthday today

[@trentdent4092]

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[@romeojennison9643]

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[@DEADGrey-fm8js]

Ur so handsome

[@VigorousWhale]

Please don’t make another video! Thanks 😊 ❤