7 Cutesy Games That Are Secretly Nightmare Dystopias: Commenter Edition

A while ago we looked at the cute games that were actually nightmare dystopias once you scratched the adorable surface. Turns out there are even more, so we're back with some of your suggestions!
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[@outsidextra]

Aww look at how sweet these worlds are! There's nothing dark that could be behind all of this oh no wait this is all nightmare fuel thanks everyone.

[@barrybend7189]

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. Until you fix the problems.

[@theodorepinnock1517]

...what if 10-year olds are actually sent out into the Pokémon world alone as some sort of desperate child soldier training program... by Arceus...

[@barrybend7189]

@@theodorepinnock1517 dude I mentioned the Mystery Dungeon series where human kids become Isekaied into a world filled with only Pokemon.

[@theodorepinnock1517]

@@barrybend7189 ...and?

[@TheFaeolin6579]

as a mention of pokemon, if you want to see what that world really would be like, the fanfic 'The Sun Soul' does it well. In fact, it does it so well, pokemon fanfic authors rate dark fics on a rating of 'game' to 'Sun Soul'. I recommend 'Traveller' for the best written though, also it doesn't give me nightmares like 'Sun Soul.

[@theodorepinnock1517]

Ellen whispering "They're all dead." is the most unexpectedly malovent thing I have ever heard.

[@626Pennywise]

Gave me chills lol

[@FawnGesicht]

Are they getting to her??

[@RedKytten]

Trust me, we little women are the most menacing and scary people. All shall fear our tiny evilness! :)

[@joeschmo3844]

Those three words will likely haunt my dreams

[@patrickmccurry1563]

I immediately wondered how many takes she needed. Unless someone just off camera had pictures of crying dogs, I don't see how she made it through that bit without giggling up a storm.

[@fullmetalarshole]

“Secretly nightmare dystopias.” Dont worry ain’t nothing secret about doki doki’s nightmare dystopia.

[@beltyro]

Or is there O.O yeah doki doki is a lot darker then just the murder and meta.

[@nerd7946]

Or Kirby in general, or Zelda, for the matter

[@ajhurtado5940]

I guess nothing is secret about pokemon either. We use them for cockfighting, we keep them on leashes, and we eat our "pets". In other words, humans, including you in this game, are trash-

[@fuzzyotterpaws4395]

Pretty sure it is since everyone just glances at it and thinks it's just a cute dating game

[@happysnek1232]

With the updates that have been added like more flowers, the music, etc., it's like you're watching your world recover from some apocalyptical event.

[@idioticpanther8068]

"...even Tingle is reasonably unthreatening" No. Never.

[@giarnovanzeijl399]

Not *reasonably unthreatening* but *MILDLY* unthreatening

[@jruler93]

Wind Waker is probably Tingle's most threatening appearance. You find him in jail where you have to break him out, later it's revealed that he has brothers and it's heavily implied that he forces them to do intensive manual labor under the threat of physical violence, and later still he charges a young boy who broke him out of jail exorbitant prices to decipher maps.

[@giarnovanzeijl399]

@@jruler93 OH GODS I DIDN'T KNOW! I was judging by appearance alone! *Shudders heavily, quaking in fear as tears stream from my eyes*

[@jruler93]

Giarno van Zeijl Of course Tingle doesn't look particularly threatening in Wind Waker, but that cutesy cartoony art style could make just about anything look pretty non-threatening. Hell, even Valoo (the gigantic dragon roosting on Dragonroost Island) looks pretty adorable. But WW Tingle is not the sort of person you want to mess with.

[@Stephen-Fox]

@@jruler93 Except ReDeads. I think Windwaker ReDeads are the most disturbing looking iteration of that enemy. Maybe because of the contrast with everything else, but that design generally has some starvation imagery going on to it.

[@I_Cast_Fireball]

"But, OH NO, some of you thought about it too hard!" And that's why 42% of the internet exists

[@MsWatismyname]

More liike 69%

[@DragoSonicMile]

@@MsWatismyname 86%

[@insaincaldo]

When you account for all the porn and cats these numbers are way to high. though allot of the porn is also a result of people thinking way to hard.

[@CorvusCorone68]

well every Hitch-hiker fan knows 42 is the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything!

[@gadygadygssg422]

420% 🌚🌝

[@DanielSmith-mp4le]

I can't believe nobody mentioned the fact that Kirby himself is a lovecraftian horror! The Final boss of star allies is just another incarnation of the same type of being that Kirby is. While Nintendo did not come out and say it they definitely heavily imply it.

[@MsAirnation]

@lelwut technically being cruel or bad isn't a requirement :D

[@distantignition]

Clearly there's an extra-dimensional void inhabiting the place where a soul would normally go.

[@DanielSmith-mp4le]

@lelwut never said he wasn't good it's just that he happens to be incredibly scary in backstory and Power.

[@DanielSmith-mp4le]

@lelwut you are really not making any sense please clarify your comment.

[@Stephen-Fox]

Yeah, of all the horrific lore in the Kirby universe, they go with... That?

[@Chloe_Zana]

At this point, I just go into every cute game with the expectation that it'll be secretly depressing and/or horrifying.

[@apollonvidalis6299]

Hyperdimension neptunia. The console wars and the piracy issues and all that in a cutesy cover until the world starts to darken

[@onespicysauce6599]

Except Mario as that’s safe

[@Madhattersinjeans]

@@apollonvidalis6299 yar har fiddle de de do what you want cos a pirate is free

[@Franky_Sthein]

@@onespicysauce6599 You should read the manual from Mario Bros 1. King Kooper aka Bowser turned all inhabitants of the Mushroom Kingdom into boxes an bricks. Boxes and bricks who you as Mario are destroying for a Mushroom or just for Points. Turns out there is a value to life and it's 100 points.

[@IotaSpencer]

Drawn to Life

[@franekrb]

kirby: every one of our final bosses bleed and/or scream! outside xtra: i sleep. kirby: ice planet outside xtra: *I WOKE*

[@mish2483]

We all gonna ignore minecraft? You’re just thrown in to a world being the only human there! There is zombies and skeletons who share the body as you, but no evidence of who they were before.

[@SupersuMC]

MatPat from The Game Theorists is doing a heck of a job revealing all the hidden Nightmare Fuel in his Minecraft Lore series. Some of the episodes are nightmare-worthy...

[@Madhattersinjeans]

That's valhalla really. You get to fight for eternity against fearsome enemies.

[@crocuslament9680]

@@Madhattersinjeans And after you die you just respawn back in your bed, get up, and fight some more monsters. Occasionally those monsters are fellow warriors that you disagree with.

[@sanjotsingh7427]

I never thought of mine craft as Valhalla before . It does make sense to be honest. You wake up , feast , head to battle , die and then repeat.

[@tomanychannelnames4154]

Plz stop

[@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet]

Next, horrifying nightmare games that are secretly adorable.

[@seanfager8063]

That's a good challenge... Pyre?

[@blacksarlacc91]

Not sure if it qualifies. But Bioshock 1? At least if you got the good ending in the end it was adorable. And the setting is by lore by far an nightmare (drug fueled dystopian system...)

[@Drace90]

Hollow Knight

[@seanfager8063]

Maybe Duskers, if you like protagonist Roombas.

[@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet]

I'm adding Silent Hill, cause the akita was in charge.

[@MmeCShadow]

You don't even need Shiverstar; Kirby's entire deal is literally about the dichotomy of Dream World's cute and happy veneer versus the encroaching horrors. Look at any true final boss in the Kirby series and you'll find demons, possession and soul consumption, genocidal madness, and that time Kirby fought a giant flying eyeball that was crying blood. No overthinking required. Kirby games involve *literal nightmares*.

[@dont_scrool_too_much_here]

Damn, even one of the final boss is literally called Nightmare!

[@beans1430]

Chaos Shadow including Kirby himself- he literally robs creatures of their free will in Star Allies. He EATS WADDLE DEES! Also there is a character NAMED Nightmare

[@matthewwilliams8267]

Hypernova. Nuff said.

[@exyzt9877]

Well... kirby's home is called DREAMLAND so it makes sense that the true enemies would be stuff straight out of your NIGHTMARES.

[@Enaronia]

Hey remember that time King Dedede was actually trying to help, but he knew Kirby wouldn't believe him so he and his friends tried to keep both the real villain *and* Kirby from collecting the pieces of the artifact and then Kirby killed and ate all of his friends? Oopsie!

[@mischief7781]

The most terrifying ones are the ones *_Jane_* enjoys

[@JanAside]

Especially the mental ones she plays with the oxbox crew.

[@dhotnessmcawesome9747]

Shhh…. Don't anger the dark lord. She hears all.

[@dhotnessmcawesome9747]

@@therewillbefire1833 GAMES!? The Dark Lord Jane doesn't play games! She destroys pitiful fools! All Hail Lord Jane!

[@-septimus]

No surprise there honestly.

[@KuueenKumi]

All hail the dark overlord Jane

[@thatlycantomboy]

Why are there at least fourteen of these? Why can’t we just have something nice for once, dammit?

[@ryanschmidt3319]

Because Game Devs don't want us to have dreams

[@Chris_Sizemore]

Because if everything was rainbows and cake then we would be the bad guy.

[@lightningstrike9876]

I would like to point out that according to lore, the whole Pokemon Trainer system was invented by the pokemon themselves. In ancient times they were worried about squishy, powerless humans hurting themselves, so some partnered up with humans to protect them. That relationship eventually evolved into the modern trainer system.

[@LiamLightwolf]

@@lightningstrike9876 :D

[@LiamLightwolf]

@@lightningstrike9876 do you have a source for that which you could link?

[@SwaySilva]

“Poetry often gets a bad rap, probably because is usually sounds like bad rap” - that is the best line I’ve ever heard...

[@kharnthebetrayer8251]

The intro in that Legend of Zelda implies 2 things: 1) Gannon physically can never win. Even if he beats Link, the gods will destroy the world to stop him winning 2) The people of Hyrule did nothing to stop Gannon, just patiently waited for Link, and they prayed to the gods.

[@KaishaLouise]

I actually heard a even better theory (well more interesting at least) about what happened to the literal missing Link that the people waited for. To cut a long story short, it wasn't necessarily that he didn't show, but that he wasn't believed to be the hero that he should have been (and probably died). The king of hyrule was waiting not for the reincarnation of the hero, but for the literal same human being to come back and save them all over again, and so when the reincarnated hero did show up the king even met him, but sent him away or something, but either way he didn't believe and accept that this hero was the hero he was waiting for and the hero was unable to complete his task, and the reason that the king is so focused on atoning and fixing the mistakes he made in the past and being at fault for what happened is because he could have actually stopped th flood before it happened had he helped the hero and let him achieve his destiny and defeat Ganon. I WISH i remembered who came up with this theory or the rest of the details but I founfd it so fascinating.

[@amirabudubai2279]

​@@KaishaLouise I am not a fan of the theory. No other Link needed the kings help and in OoT the king didn't take Zelda serious. And none of the guardians mention anything along those lines(you can understand what they say when you play though a second time). In fact, what they say suggest that they recognized Link on sight and that he finally showed up. Personally, I think it was Zelda's fault for removing Link from the timeline at the end of OoT, but it could be as simple as Link died very early.

[@annana6098]

@@amirabudubai2279 didn't the kokiri spirit sound a bit remorseful for something? Damn, it's been so long.

[@Drace90]

I mean... #2 worked.

[@thaneros]

@@KaishaLouise I've been out of the Zelda loop but I thought due to the events in Majora's Mask(leaving Hyrule) the Hero lost the Triforce. After MM the Hero returned but without the power of the Triforce he eventually became Shade in TP.

[@kieranbyrne9988]

In this game Tingle enslaved someone and forced them to dress like him, TINGLE IS NEVER UNTHREATENING!

[@screamingfalcon71]

Not to mention that he brainwashed that someone and then proceeded to do it 3 more times!!!

[@HylianFox3]

You should really check out the Tingle DS games, they're nothing but nightmare fuel. Too bad they were never released in the US

[@kimballbelliston5925]

Luke doesn't need to be generating power for the studio, Ellen's already doing so just by being on-screen. Gotta love that squeenewable energy

[@ndt_dynamite2247]

this is wholesome, and also very true!

[@frodobaggins7710]

The early Crash Bandicoot games could get a mention here. You're in a colourful world playing as a marsupial wearing jorts and trainers, yet the reason Crash became powerful in the first place was because Dr. Cortex was experiementing on animals for world domination

[@kadosho02]

Dr. Robotnik & Cortex relate on a spiritual level

[@screamingfalcon71]

@@kadosho02 How come those two have never tried to team up?

[@kadosho02]

@@screamingfalcon71 honestly no idea, but it would be awesome

[@jeremiahbristow7609]

@@kadosho02 They're owned by different companies?

[@kadosho02]

@@jeremiahbristow7609 yes, but weirder crossovers have happened

[@TheGhostOfAGamer]

If the movies taught me anything, Monster Inc I'm looking at you, then the Studio should be powered off of Ellen's laughter since we all know laughing is a powerful energy saurce.

[@OwlGypsy]

TheGhostOfAGamer you can’t convince me that’s not already happening. Ellen’s laugh can’t not power electricity, it powers joy and all things good, it has to power electricity too

[@Drace90]

@@OwlGypsy North Korea us currently trying to find ways to weaponize Ellen's adorable giggling. Her outburts of bubbly joy will be the end of us all!

[@Stephen-Fox]

"Windwaker is easily the most adorable Zelda game" - I'm sorry, have you not seen the Link's Awakening remake?

[@ForrestFox626]

Wind Wakes is still cuter

[@Stelios300X]

I suppose you haven't seen the horror clown yet

[@marhawkman303]

@@Stelios300X Also Windwaker doesn't hold a candle to the nightmares hiding in Link's Awakening.

[@pforgottonsoul]

@@marhawkman303 i personally think puppet ganon is worse.

[@ossiehalvorson7702]

I must be the tiny minority who thinks Majora's Mask is infinitely cuter, in that way that Tim Burton characters are horrifying yet adorable.

[@JanAside]

Any lego game. Imagine you spend hours maybe days building something maybe your house only for some madman to come destroy it for money or to rebuild it Into some random object leaving you homeless and money out of pocket. Where are you going to get some more bricks to rebuild without yourself reverting to destroying another's House. Also everyone's immortal. So criminals can walk around forever leaving no end to this cycle and Instead rushing the risk of overpopulation meaning its only a matter of time until all their resources are gone!!!!

[@moonlightmercury5235]

Yes, sure. But why are we panicking over LEGO games?

[@JanAside]

@@moonlightmercury5235 it is ALWAYS the time to panic over lego games!!

[@FriskyD.]

If a head is disconnected from the body in that universe, can both act independently?

[@stubz702]

Hey!

[@pacifistminigun3987]

lmao

[@respectableaf9061]

Predicting fanart of Luke in the hamster wheel ready and done for this weekend's episode.

[@gruggerduggerhoose]

The fans demand Hamster Luke!!

[@kadosho02]

Hamster Luke sounds adorable awww

[@screamingfalcon71]

Said art must include both the wheel AND a hamster cage water bottle

[@ZERO9098767]

Doki Doki Literature Club? I mean... Isn't it no longer a secret, when everybody knows the "secret"?

[@spicybeantofu]

I felt it was cheating lol

[@reddragon9064]

ya i mean dosent the game slap you in face with it there could have been a better pick then something everyone knows about already as well as pokemon that one was also very well known and memed about

[@spacejesus6581]

When everyones super...no one will be.

[@distantignition]

I'd have to imagine it was pretty horrifying for people that played it without knowing the whole premise.

[@reddragon9064]

@@distantignition most likely but video is suppose to be about secret nightmare games everyone knows about doki doki and pokemon which is why useing either of them let alone both feels like cheating

[@missenoch7269]

My time at Portia - you might be too busy building stuff and riding colorful llamas to realize that humanity is trying to rebuild after a machine uprising nearly wiped them out in the age of destruction followed by the day of calamity and the age of darkness...

[@lunades22]

Omg i was also thinking how much My Time At Portia fit here.

[@Brian.S]

@@BJGvideos - It's as "all out in the open" as Kingdom Hearts. No overthinking necessary, just get a look at the lore, which is easier when it's all exposed in one game instead of half a dozen.

[@samgonzalez8662]

Luke is the “fossil fuel”? Well, he does like dinosaurs an awful lot

[@kadosho02]

"Not the Mama!!"

[@CorvusCorone68]

running on a treadmill as a source of power seems like something they would do in the Flintstones

[@EverTheFractal]

This 'Forced pokemon servitude blah blah' is a disservice to how terrifying the actual pokemon /world/ is. There is so much crime its unreal that people leave their house, genetic experiments on living breathing creatures is not only accepted but normalised, natural disasters every month, world ending events happen practically annually and people who aren't good trainers are constantly under seige from wild pokemon who go rampant. I know its a joke in itself but pokemon /do/ enjoy the bloodsport you put them into. Wild pokemon are ones that actively are seeking you out because caught pokemon grow faster and evolve sooner than if they were just in the wild and come on, don't you think that a ten foot tall rock snake or a former genetic experiment with the power of the gods would stay with a twelve year old instead of just killing them easily and peacing out? Mewtwo cannonically has murdered people, do you think they'd just be like 'oh you got me in the ~capture ball~ ah well time to serve you.'? No they'd break the thing (cause they can be broken) and just mind melt this child. No, because this twelve year old is giving them sweets and ear scratches. Life is good for them.

[@nickdejager8873]

And don't forget that in addition to the random rampaging wild Pokemon who can easily wreck a house, there are the Legendary Pokemon that can easily destroy a continent. And some of them want to.

[@EverTheFractal]

@@BJGvideos from bulbapedia: 'According to the scientific logs found in the Pokémon Mansion of Cinnabar Island, Mewtwo was born from a pregnant Mew, found deep in the jungles of Guyana, whose embryo had been tampered with to alter its DNA. It was held and studied in the mansion where a scientist performed horrific gene-splicing experiments that made it vicious and extremely powerful. It eventually broke free of the Mansion, destroying it in the process, and fled.' This pretty much implies it

[@EverTheFractal]

@@BJGvideos I doubt a game intended for kids would go '6 dead'. And I'm sure there were more scientists than them there to do it but eh. Whatever. Just reading the Pokédex constantly saying Mewtwo is savage and reading that the mansion was destroyed after cruel experiments brings to mind a catastrophic event.

[@poijnve3912]

they dont only can evolve safetly (beacuse the only battles they figth aren't death battles like in the wild, beacuse nature), they have a "endless" supplies of food and they dont even need to worry about bed time..... and a lot of pokemons are like human lvl intelligents at least (someone are suppost to be more intelligents).... they wouldn't get capture if they didn't want it xD.... if i'm remember well, it have been stablished that pokemons and human has some symbiotic dependence, the pokemon protect (and that evolve into the battles) the trainer while the trainer keep the pokemon healty..... and i mean it's canon that pokemons and human had been in a relasionship (marred as a couple) in the past, so......

[@EverTheFractal]

@@BJGvideos soooo why is it so hard to believe that Mewtwo killed people in game? Either way my initial comment is fine cause you could just take it as saying anime canon. I read the initial journal where it was mentioned and the wording is vague and changed often in translation so you could take it either way.

[@DAUGHTERofIRIS]

"Just like Timothee Chamelet did to Tom Holland-" Im crying why is that true

[@giorgioguolo7196]

DAUGHTERofIRIS I don’t get it

[@-arlene-]

@@giorgioguolo7196 Dude. Watch the Little Women 2019 remake. Timothée Chalamet is great and pretty cute!

[@gwynbell]

Tom Holland's still cuter

[@-arlene-]

@@gwynbell Nah.

[@LordoftheNightWolves]

As much as I want to say Hollow Knight for this category, it doesn't ever at one point not remind you that everyone died and the enemies are walking corpses or just driving insane. But the player character sure is adorable.

[@FeebleSaturn3]

I legit turn off all the lights in my apartment by saying "Alexa, true darkness!" every single night so I so very love that you included that Malificent clip 🥰

[@thomaskohl7551]

Nice

[@LtBasil]

Oxtra: Kingdom Hearts is a nightmare dystopia Me: Wait, that was a secret?

[@princeblackelf4265]

If you aren't a lore nerd, yeah

[@GODOFAWSOMENESS1]

Prince Black Elf you just need to play one game to learn that. The heartless are everywhere.

[@TheDwarvenDefender]

It's like they haven't watched Back Cover.

[@kadosho02]

@@TheDwarvenDefender um yeah that is next level lore, on top of lore, with more lore than ever before

[@kadosho02]

@@princeblackelf4265 I believe OX fam did coverage on the entirety of KH's universe🤔 i may dig to see Note: yes I am familiar, and have played the series throughout. So many twists and turns... And loss of life 😭 Aha found some lore kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5i0qqt6mM-Up80 And more kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYXOcmuLZsibsLs

[@Unkn0wabl3]

I will now go to sleep with Ellen whispering "they're all deeeeeaaaaad" in my ear. Thanks for that

[@fluffigefledermaus218]

Did you sleep well that night?

[@DestronGaming]

About the Great Pokemon War, it was also referenced in "Lucario and the mystery of Mew", where you see 2 different sides fighting(with Aggrons, Lairons, Onixs, Steelixs, Houndooms, Rhydons, Rhyhorns, etc) and Lucario sending a message to his trainer through aura about it. The trainer sends him into his staff to protect him, which is where it ends. Also, in XY, AZ's Floette died during the war, and he created the ultimate weapon, which absorbed ALL of the surrounding life(which can explain the lack of pokemon variety in Kalos) in order to revive Floette. Then Floette left him(for obvious reasons), and by the end of the games, he learned the error of his ways.

[@flusendieb6833]

if you stop digging into the lore, that's a waste of a perfectly good shovel upgrade. Shame on you

[@mattkoning8017]

New Years resolution for you guys! There needs to be a running compilation of clips taken out of context for laughs. It can DEFINITELY start with "Congratulations!! You're complicit in pinata murder!

[@normative]

Behind scenes at OX: “So we need some footage from Doki Doki do illustrate how horrifying it becomes...” No. No. DEAR GOD no! “Uh. We could show the glitches I guess?”

[@Crisjola]

Gotta be glad they spared us the actual horrifying (and honestly demonetizing, probably) stuff that is in there. Particularly that erm… one… very long afternoon, and then night, and then day again.

[@jasonblalock4429]

3:02 Just as an aside, but the Hyrule Castle theme is way underappreciated. It's one of the best tracks in the SNES game, and it shows up in nearly all the sequels - up to and including BOTW - but no one ever talks about how awesome it is: majestic, yet ominous.

[@Cunnysmythe]

Totally agree, by far the best ALTTP track.

[@CaitlinRC]

*looks at dark luke and Andy from the mirror dimension*

[@silverdragon4018]

The only person who can stop them is Good Jane from the mirror dimension

[@maxvel0city906]

Don't look directly at them Caitlin or they'll steal your soul! 😱

[@PhoenixOfTheNight]

"Or we're overthinking, and that's what we're about!" MatPat: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of my power

[@themultiversalmagpie7827]

"Noooooooooo! Not wind waker! Don't you dare touch my favorite Zelda game!" (Watches video) "Why?" I ask through the tears

[@SevCaswell]

ummm did you actually play it? cuz they just talked about the main story...

[@codysaxe2002]

Luke: describes corrupt corporations that use Pokémon as sources of energy. Also Luke: Fun fact this entire studio is run off the use of Pokémon and the joy humans get from them. I see you OutsideXtra I see you.

[@mayorofasilenttown3837]

OutsideXtra isn't an evil corporation!!!!!!! Yet.

[@MagicXRoads534]

Are you sure he wasn’t talking about Nintendo?

[@zerplergon]

so happy to see solatorobo here,its one of my fave games of all time,and recently found out its creators are in development creating a new game for switch

[@loka7783]

The Pinata game: An easily accessible serial killer starter kit, now gamified for your convenience! Not so fun fact: Animal abuse is an early indicator that a person may become a serial killer at some point in their life.

[@pinkythepinkslime6170]

And only now do I realize my favourite childhood game was THAT...

[@Serrifin]

Hey, in my defense, I also beat up the people in the game.

[@Dovah_Slayer]

Or that kids are monsters

[@spunoffsee]

Huh...wonder if the events of Majora's Mask, where Link was trapped in a different dimension, caused the events of Wind Waker...and my favorite LoZ game JUST GOT BETTER...

[@TheSpencermacdougall]

Kinda?Windwaker is in the adult timeline,the one link abandoned to return to being a kid at the end of OoT,his absence caused the world to need to be flooded,so because manjoras mask link is also OoT link,you are partially right.

[@LtBasil]

No, it didn't. Majora's Mask takes place in the Child Timeline. Wind Waker is in the Adult Timeline.

[@Doncornuto]

Spencer MacDougall let's be honest here, that was before Nintendo solidified the timeline.

[@Stephen-Fox]

Windwaker is adult timeline, Majora's Mask is child timeline. Windwaker happened because Link time travelled to the past creating after defeating Ganon in the future, before defeating Ganon in the past, creating one timeline branch with no spirit of the hero.

[@wallofnyc]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h16VZpZuh9iimNk That is all

[@davidmartin5483]

Mike: Tingle is in this game resonably unthreatening Reminder: You find Tingle in jail and when he goes back to his tower he let's his brothers work like slaves. . . . . . . . Sorry Mike

[@DiggyDougSauce94]

The WInd Waker Gods sound like the Dark Souls 1 Gods. "Shit's going all to hell? FLOOD IT"

[@pacifistminigun3987]

"when in doubt, flood everything" -probably every god ever

[@shinymaddy]

“Squee-newable energy”...I wanna marry Luke for that statement alone 😂

[@TheDemosMirak]

'Back to fossil fuels' and Luke starts running in a treadmill. How old is he anyway?

[@bryonyperecat5954]

Is Dragon Quest Builders "secretly" a dystopia? I mean, they're pretty upfront that the world is a horrible mess and no one knows how to even make a torch. But it is cute.

[@SevCaswell]

Maybe if they made it into a PC game more people might play it...

[@ossiehalvorson7702]

@@SevCaswell They made a sequel, so I'm going to say plenty of people played it.

[@SevCaswell]

@@ossiehalvorson7702 They made the sequel crossplatform, so I guess they wanted more people to play it than the original.

[@theGhostWolfe]

“Dogs and robots don’t mix.” K-9 (Doctor Who) would like a word with you.

[@PrototypeSpaceMonkey]

Also the K-9 Cyberdogs from the Fallout universe. But they were originally a Doctor Who reference as well.

[@skrawberriez8628]

Goddard from Jimmy Neutron would also like to have a word

[@HelheimMudkip]

Sad Rex noises

[@doctorwars2]

well that became somewhat funny considering i love doctor who and K-9

[@jessicastrike5640]

I can’t believe you still haven’t done any 2019 charades!! Justice for charades

[@JannieJubilee]

15:11 and that's why I watched Digimon as a child. It was dark in its own right but you got one Digimon who chose to be with you and could communicate it's needs with you. And they were data that could regenerate, not flesh.

[@FawnGesicht]

"Because nothing can just be nice"

[@cyanimation1605]

7:48 Ellen said “Dig a little deeper” during the Kingdom Hearts segment, and *didn’t make a Princess and the Frog pun??*

[@outsidextra]

DavidTheWavid Animation (hehehe)

[@DeludedOne]

Nothing about the 7 dwarfs either.

[@ForrestFox626]

I hope so! I'd love to see The Princess and The Frog in Kingdom Hearts!

[@kadosho02]

@@ForrestFox626 missed opportunity in KH3 seriously

[@crocuslament9680]

@@kadosho02 If I had to guess it's because it takes place mainly in America. In films like Pirates and Peter Pan, the majority of the action and stakes are reliant on fantastical plot points and locations, but in the Princess and the Frog Tiana's whole motivation is to open a restaurant. In relatively modern New Orleans. The best way I could think to incorporate her would be to put her on Traverse Town working at the Bistro. Maybe in KHIV Scrooge's going to have started an interdimensional chain of restaurants and she's the location manager. Or they make a world based off of New Orleans, at which point they are missing out on an opportunity to create a world called London and stuff Mary Poppins and the Darling family in there.

[@robertnett9793]

After seeing the bit about Solatorobo I remember this really old title: "Inherit the Earth: Quest for the Orb" Which is set in a medieval world inhabited by antropomorphic animals. You play as a fox who is accused of have stolen a mighty weather-control-orb. Even if the game is from '94 spoilers ahead: Turns out the orb is part of an ancient human weather-control system you discover deep in the wild lands in basically an old starport/military base where old flickering screens still show in 'unintelligable runes' words like 'nuclear launch detected' and such...

[@ethankyle8433]

“Now if you’ll excuse me, I need a lie down!” *Cuts to an ad about a woman being forced onto a hospital bed and injected with morphine* That couldn’t have been planned better.

[@pacifistminigun3987]

lmao

[@fivestarguy100]

Wh-what fucking ad is that?!

[@StayNPlayGames]

7:30 Ellen has gotten darker after her episode with Simon. *Meat Grinder PTSD flashbacks*

[@pilsner_film614]

What about minecraft? The whole point of the game is to ravage the land and murder it's inhabitants only because of an endless thirst for pointless onstruction.

[@normalhuman9878]

That just depends on how you play

[@ossiehalvorson7702]

@@normalhuman9878 Yeah I don't think you can really say this about most sandbox games, because there are always multiple ways to play. Now replace Minecraft with Factorio and you have a winner, because that game is actually bleak as fuck (although not cutesy at any point). You crash on a planet and proceed to strip mine it out which causes massive clouds of pollution, the native inhabitants try to stop it, and you murder the shit out of them before they can evolve into something capable of saving their planet lol

[@zarnox3071]

I remember something about the pinatas actually enjoying being smashed at parties. Also, they survive, and are pieced back together afterwards.

[@ariginsburg6228]

"Like so much in life, is 100% more enjoyable when you dont think about it too hard... but oh no several of you thought about it too hard" is a great line

[@chrismanuel9768]

Probably mentioned by now, but the pinatas in Viva Pinata actually like being broken at parties and come back stronger after being broken. They're like little paper mache Gokus

[@Khrystja1]

Anytime people bring up Pokemon as dog fights or slaves, just look at platinum. They willingly chose to be partners to humans. So have some hope

[@deannal.newton9772]

Also in Pokemon Black/White you actually play as a 13 year old, Pokemon Black 2/White 2 (which takes place 2 years after the events of Pokemon Black/White) you play as a 14 year old, and in Pokemon Sun/Moon you play as an 11 year old. Not all the Pokemon games have you play as a 10 year old, you know.

[@recurvess9569]

Oxtra: Regularly talks about how creepy Pokemon is. Previous video about cute games and dystopias: Distinctly lacking in Pokemon.

[@Trakker1985]

Burnout Paradise - The world has been taken over by sentient self driving cars, and the only human left is the DJ on the radio =3 And if you need Squeenuable energy, just show a picture of an Eevee to Ellen XD

[@TheFirstAifos]

Ha, you think that’s the worst part in Kirby? Don’t forget that there was a two way genocide between the Halcandrans and Jambans, who each occupied an entire planet!

[@splatshort7812]

Video idea: 7 times you made a boss harder because of an achievement

[@1lluusio]

Just gonna add that the pokemon world also has a light vampire that wants to steal all the light and has already done that to an alternate world and a walking black hole that ate an alternate version of melemele island. Also based on the anime cry of Guzzlord its always in pain or stubs its toe with every step

[@Crisjola]

Considering I dropped off after half way through Alpha Sapphire (and barely got through the first gym of Sun), much to my chagrin, which version was the Light Vampire? (I also didn't play Black/White2 because I missed the hype and didn't know it was actually hugely plot different.)

[@1lluusio]

@@Crisjola that was Necrozma in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. And its canon in that story that it stole the light from an another dimension, Ultra Megalopolis. That pokemon is also known to be a nuzlocke killer in the game.

[@mitchellneu]

When even Maleficent, Disney's archetypal evil queen/lord of ultimate evil needs to be literally impaled with a giant key to experience "true darkness", as if she isn't already the literal personification of it, you know you're in trouble.

[@raylf3141]

I'm probably not supposed to laugh at wide eyed Ellen whispering "they're all dead". But I did.

[@leorawnblade8456]

Last time I was this early the real world wasn’t a secret dystopia

[@dekkuboboo8486]

what do you call a deer with no eyes? No eye deer

[@heartofthewild680]

Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life (and it’s counterpart Another Wonderful Life)? You spend a year trying to woo one of the three bachelorettes (or in Another Wonderful Life, one of the bachelors), then marry one of them and have a son, and as he grows up over the subsequent years, the people you talk to will influence his personality. All the while you take care of your farm, and get visibly older with each passing year. And then after six years of building the farm, raising your son, and interacting with the townsfolk, you die (presumably while awake, given the fact that woke up your spouse in your last moments) and you get to watch your funeral.

[@tomsyalad9556]

Adventure Time is one of the most extreme examples! (Sure, it's a TV show, but it has games and Cars was a movie series.) From the "great mushroom war" to Marceline the Vampire queen being reveled to have previously been a vampire HUNTER to the sad story of Simon Petrikov, Adventure Time gets surprisingly dark.

[@adammyers7383]

The Kirby franchise as a whole is actually horrifying underneath its cutesy exterior

[@faithjones7550]

Real talk. When the video first started I mistakingly thought Ellen's shirt had a picture of her own face on and was shocked by the sheer amount of clout she possessed.

[@mathieupr6391]

Welp, you forgot the most abominable secret dystopia of all: Oxventure World. It's all cute animals and fun villagers, until you walk down the street only to realize that your house has been destroyed and remade out of orphan juice while dead naked rogues are roaming the streets in their comfy rotten-cat slippers. Fun !

[@saiken811]

"Maybe because they were trying to defend themselves with their house keys" That really got me lol

[@PatrickLongblkwhtrbbt]

1:07 timmee did what now

[@anzh713]

me: oh yay another list feature :) *sees Doki Doki Literature Club ...... me: HOW DARE YOU!!!!

[@TheForeignGamer]

This is unrelated to the video, but I just wanted to take this time to thank the OxBoxtra crew for giving me the inspiration to start DMing. I just watched the latest Oxventure and I'm kicking myself for not seeing the earlier episodes. I love seeing you guys interact with each other so effortlessly, the way you're able to bounce off of each other's ideas without breaking the overall pace of the session. Johnny is also a fantastic DM, and I love his attitude towards the players and his approach to running the game. I'm definitely go back and watch the earlier stuff!

[@Tytan626]

SlyForeigner here’s the link to the playlist kzbin.info/aero/PLoid6oOAGqMcZ3YWFqABFXbx9l5edm6XK

[@pinkcloudsnightlightbell]

I loved the "minivacation to Venice" line from the last incarnation of this, am going against the odds (lol) and Crossing everything it pops up one more time XD

[@taylorbarker616]

Seeing the Doki Doki logo gave me flashbacks.

[@Nakker42]

Me: see's list of games. Huh maybe Nintendo really is trying to take over the world and impose it's own distopian rule and this is how it gets us used to it

[@STRAKAZulu]

Ellen: they're all deaaaaaddddd.... That's almost too cute, and totally on brand for Merylwin.

[@karenbonds264]

Mobius, AKA Sonic's World is a fantastical realm filled with anthropomorphic animals and adventures around every corner! Oh, but pay no mind to the fact that *Mobius* is actually *Earth* after getting nuked from orbit by aliens, and those anthropomorphic animals, Mobians, are actually mutant Human/Animal hybrids.

[@catjam9498]

I am *speed*

[@soupster857]

i am sped

[@Chokblaar]

you are spede

[@Ameriant-]

I'm surprised Bugsnax isn't on either of these lists. It appears as a game where you just run around collecting cute little bug friends that are based off of food, and then the plot canonically brings in the Illuminati.

[@magickitten123]

The weird dating game made me think of that one episode in gravity falls where soos buys a dating game, it finds out he started dating a real person, and tries to kill everyone with chuck-e-cheese robots.

[@brueckentroll]

The wife and I first audibly groaned at Lukes "bad rep" joke and then slow-clapped. Epic pun. Edit a couple minutes later: now we get "squeenewable energy"? Never mind.

[@thefunkdroid2777]

Once I read the title the first game that came to my mind is Pikuniku. The cutest game ever, but the story is about how expendable human life is in a wild and unregulated capitalist context. Little kids won't get that at all but as an adult I was just baffled at how deep is the game if you scratch the surface.

[@sagacious03]

This doesn't even get into how many cosmic horrors Kirby has, or how dangerous some Pokemon are! Love the revelations of these adorable nightmares, & wouldn't mind seeing more like this!

[@scruffymatt42]

Quick, everyone! We need some fanart of Luke in the hamster wheel! The joy generated from said fanart will provide enough squee-newable energy to allow Luke to STOP running in the hamster wheel! xD

[@thebrawlgirl]

Must I remind everyone of Boxboy? Cute, minimalist black and white puzzle game series. Follows Qbby, a cute little box person, and his friends on a mission to restore and heal planets from damage caused by a parasitic mist called the Black Smoke. Boxboy + Boxgirl is the surprise prequel that shows what happened prior to the events of the first Boxboy game, which shows the actual apocalypse taking place, the majority of Boxkind fading into Thanos snap-dust, tragedies galore, etc. And it's made by the same game company as the Kirby series.

[@ARKumalarkey]

Mike being brought in to talk about the Windwaker capture only he could have taken (as "the only one in the world who owns a Wii U") is the most subtle in-joke I've seen on this Channel.

[@dakotadoll6534]

I did not expect to see solatorobo in a gaming list. Thanks!

[@SirWeibrot]

That outro joke was brilliant! Love you guys!

[@devonwilson8306]

I for one welcome the future where all buildings are powered by squee-newable energy.

[@Fanks177]

Thank you for not showing DDLC's "that" Sayori scene. That stayed in my nightmare for weeks

[@CarcharodontosaurusSaharicus]

Not a word about iggy's egg adventure? bursting somones ribcage as a cutesy little dinosaur

[@TheJaguar1983]

I would like to thanks you guys for introducing me to Doki Doki Literature Club in one of your previous lists. Glad to see it appearing again.

[@swifyeet2687]

Well, there was A Hat In Time, where "A cutesy platformer game" quoted by one of the devs, but There's a mafia who invades a girls, home, the girl says "Nope, strangling is to kind" a ghoul that steals your soul and make you become your paper boy, a queen that will snap you neck with one hand when you enter the manor (one of snatchers quest) And knife in hat kid's toy chest.