7 Surprisingly Worthless College Majors

[@CollegeHacked]

A few commenters have expressed concerns with the value or accuracy of this video. And I'll admit the title and concept are provocative. And I can understand why someone would be "surprised" if they clicked on this video expecting me to just make fun of Interpretive Dance and Gender Studies for 13 minutes. But if viewers listen to what I'm saying, they'll see that I'm discussing these college majors being "surprisingly worthless" in specific use cases, but still ones that are commonly chosen or desired by those who enroll in these majors. And in many of those cases, these majors may indeed be surprisingly worthless. The point of this video wasn't to be a definitive list of majors no one should ever pick. A lot of listicles attempt that, and they're all garbage because they don't consider use cases and individual student goals. That's an impossible thing to do because everyone's different. So I satirized and attacked those supposedly helpful lists by explaining why some college majors we all assume are awesome are actually surprisingly worthless for many people in many situations (even if we generally assume that these majors are good fits for people in those situations). The goal here is to encourage critical thinking and a different approach to career planning. I'll stand by the underlying concepts of pro/con thinking, cost/benefit analysis, and outcome measurement vs input measurement that I mention throughout the video. I think I do a good job of clarifying in which use cases, market conditions, and individual goals each major may be worthless. Some majors that we put on a pedestal or that are very popular have surprising flaws or costs that for many people make them worthless. It's meant to be a fun video that gets people thinking about their career and college in an ROI-informed way and that encourages folks to question basic assumptions about college majors that many take for granted. Totally get it if it doesn't work for you though. Hopefully the principles explained are still useful to you. I will admit too that "worthless" is a bit of hyperbole as any college major is still a bachelors degree and still opens up about 85% of bachelors degree-requiring jobs. But that's something we all knew, and I figured would be assumed.

[@alanstahl1970]

Small correction: At 9:36 you say that getting a psychology PhD makes you a "psychiatrist", which is not true. The holder of a psych PhD is called a "psychologist", which enables the degree holder to engage in a variety of therapy-related jobs, but not prescribe medication. Psychiatrists hold a M.D. degree from a medical school and are able to prescribe therapeutic medications for patients.

[@Kraeuterkeule]

True, also here in Germany (;

[@CollegeHacked]

Thank you for the correction!

[@Davian775]

Engineering should not be on this list. It is definitely worth it if someone completes the degree. There are a lot of opportunities engineering can give. They can even get a job from different filed of study. The Worthlessness shouldn’t be determined based on people’s lack ability to complete it. But it good that people know that engineering is difficult to complete.

[@charlieibkiss4068]

I think he just wants those views to go up. He kind of sounds un genuine. He offers a consultation with the college hack team. Seems more like a money grab than anything.

[@sunnohh]

Yeah, I have a business degree and supervise engineers and I make this guys salary for my bonus

[@Leadership_matters]

@@Davian775 word

[@CollegeHacked]

I'll copy what I pinned for all to read in response to some concerns from commenters: A few commenters have expressed concerns with the value or accuracy of this video. And I'll admit the title and concept are provocative. And I can understand why someone would be "surprised" if they clicked on this video expecting me to just make fun of Interpretive Dance and Gender Studies for 13 minutes. But if viewers listen to what I'm saying, they'll see that I'm discussing these college majors being "surprisingly worthless" in specific use cases, but still ones that are commonly chosen or desired by those who enroll in these majors. And in many of those cases, these majors may indeed be surprisingly worthless. The point of this video wasn't to be a definitive list of majors no one should ever pick. A lot of listicles attempt that, and they're all garbage because they don't consider use cases and individual student goals. That's an impossible thing to do because everyone's different. So I satirized and attacked those supposedly helpful lists by explaining why some college majors we all assume are awesome are actually surprisingly worthless for many people in many situations (even if we generally assume that these majors are good fits for people in those situations). The goal here is to encourage critical thinking and a different approach to career planning. I'll stand by the underlying concepts of pro/con thinking, cost/benefit analysis, and outcome measurement vs input measurement that I mention throughout the video. I think I do a good job of clarifying in which use cases, market conditions, and individual goals each major may be worthless. Some majors that we put on a pedestal or that are very popular have surprising flaws or costs that for many people make them worthless. It's meant to be a fun video that gets people thinking about their career and college in an ROI-informed way and that encourages folks to question basic assumptions about college majors that many take for granted. Totally get it if it doesn't work for you though. Hopefully the principles explained are still useful to you. I will admit too that "worthless" is a bit of hyperbole as any college major is still a bachelors degree and still opens up about 85% of bachelors degree-requiring jobs. But that's something we all knew, I figured would be assumed.

[@charlottepeukert9095]

@@Davian775 I agree. Every degree, that's hard to accomblish with a fair amount of math in it, is a good choise. That's only the case, if someone has a good mathematical backround and can imagine doing the hard stuff throughout his or her career. I'd also like to point out, that business degrees aren't worthless. The point is, you have to be good at it, choose a demanding college and go on to do a master degree for specialisation. That's important. Otherwise, you're a Jack of all traits, which hardly ever works out well. But if you know, by the time you have a bachelor's degree, which way to go, there's definitivly a chance of a good job perspective. From my point of view, there are two problems: 1. Many young people confuse passion and ability and don't want to work a job, they can do well, but that doesn't bring fun or meaning. 2.Many people overestimate their earning potential in general, while underestimating the demands of a substantial degree.You can't go to high- school, get good grades and think you'll be successful in college. It doesn't work that way.

[@RabbiJesus]

All majors are worthless if you’re not working in that field.

[@REALLLCRIME]

I’d have to Disagree. A Business degree will mostly guarantee you to getting a job in mostly any field because it is so general. I’ve worked in Healthcare, Tech the Restaurant industry and logistics all with my B.S.B.A degree.

[@RabbiJesus]

@ I work in the tech industry and the only people with business degrees work in shipping.

[@kurtheidelbach]

Fake news

[@RabbiJesus]

@ I think the spirit of the comment combined with the philosophy of a lot of the subscribers missed you. A lot of us believe a Liberal Studies degree is the best because of versatility, which in the real world you need a lot of. So if EE was your major, but you work in finance, it does you no good, but a Liberal Arts degree may have exposed you to some of that curriculum.

[@Davian775]

@@RabbiJesusworking In finance isn’t bad if they are making there desired income. They were still able to get a decent job in a career that they didn’t even study. They didn’t have to back to college and spend more money either.

[@YoursTrulyChris]

Cliff, the problem is my dream careers involves me being very good at math of which I'm not very sufficient. Lol

[@geddon436]

Me too

[@RabbiJesus]

@@YoursTrulyChris my best advice is to speak with someone who is in that career and find out exactly what form of math is frequently used and apply yourself solely to that.

[@gregb_]

You spelled excuse wrong

[@neilrichardson7454]

You are on KZbin. There are thousands of content to teach you maths 😊

[@geddon436]

@@YoursTrulyChris and being sble to succeed in physics

[@waleedkhalid7486]

We need to remember that all degrees are subject to supply and demand. In the early 2000s STEM degrees were pushed by anyone and everyone as a vehicle to success. By the late 2010s when many millennials graduated many of those jobs started to become saturated and their value declined until now where companies are paying off STEM workers. The exception is healthcare, but healthcare is special - they self select for specific people so the field is always in need of fresh m- I mean new people. In the 2010s comp sci was the golden goose, but now companies are trying to lay off as many people as they can. My advice to anyone: choose a degree that will teach you how to research, communicate, present information, work rigorously, and work collaboratively. This really is most degrees. The skills you pick up can be translated to anything you want- the knowledge you can pick up on your own (except for STEM, you really need to have a curriculum for that).

[@webanon]

I generally agree. Some licensed occupations do require specialized education as one of the prerequisites for licensure (e.g., nursing and engineering).

[@shit_for_brains]

There are so many niche healthcare majors most people don’t think about. I have a friend in speech pathology who keeps getting calls from hospital recruiters.

[@reddbendd]

Yeah but not psychoanalysis. They expect me to get a masters. Might as well just study nursing and get paid for locums

[@webanon]

Yeah. They make good money. ~ Engineer

[@terryoneal7055]

Even an SLPA make more than most people

[@MidnightVentures]

Sad part about a Business degree was that 15 years ago it was a automatic promotion. Now the field is saturated with them more and also companies now prefer experience in said job over a business degree.

[@omegablade89]

7 of the most useful degrees next ???

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[@CollegeHacked]

Been there, done that 😉

[@vectorhacker-r2]

As a software engineer with 10 years of experience and a degree in computer science, I agree with number 7. A SWE degree is not enough for most jobs and leaves you unprepared for a set of skills that will already leave you out of date. Get a degree in CS and maybe a masters, because a CS degree will at least give you the tools to learn everything you need to learn in the field and a masters will show greater competency in the field. Other than that, yes go for certifications as many as you can afford that are relevant, especially early on in the career.

[@paladinsorcerer67]

I have an undergrad degree in ME, and a masters in CS. I work as a Senior Java Developer now. Job postings describe what skills are nice to have, so if you arent getting job offers like you want, check out sites like "udemy" which teach CS and other skills that you might want to specialize in. Based on when you pay for them, many courses are around $10 each. Other sites like "pluralsight" and "linkedin learning" also offer courses like this.

[@CollegeHacked]

Thanks for sharing!

[@kagame6524]

You don’t need masters in CS to get a job. I work for big tech for 7 years and we’re always hiring undergrads; getting an internship is also super helpful. Yh, I’d also chose CS over software engineering degree.

[@vectorhacker-r2]

@ You don’t need it, but it’s being more and more required to advance later on in the career. Which is why I am getting mine.

[@mrmartywaring]

I would say that general business can open some doors. The two keys to having a general business degree are to: A. Find a specialty as soon as you graduate (I have a business undergrad & landed in the accounting field. B. Try to get into an internship in a specialty to gain experience.

[@stephanwelke882]

In Germany we have a lot cheaper education. So engineering is just the loss of years of income. But in a film degrees like that are quite well described, freely translated: "look left and right, it is likely to not see them finish their degree." In my experience this is accurate.

[@bernardguzman1938]

I think your list is spot on. I would disagree a bit about engineering though. I understand your reasoning, but even if you change majors the quant classes you take in engineering should prepare you well for many other majors that use math (Econ, finance, accounting, research methods in a social science major, etc.). I 100% agree with you on entrepreneurship as a useless major. Universities offer it because they know 17-18 year olds are gullible, and they will major in many things that sound good but have no practical application, which generates revenue for the university. For the money you will spend on a bachelors degree in entrepreneurship, you’re better off using those resources to actually start a business if that’s what you actually want to do.

[@CallOSaulTitan]

I’m glad that he didn’t include Economics, because it’s full of Math and it’s basically Theoretical Finance with some Data Analysis, there useful in life. I’m now working in a Hospital’s Finance Department after graduating with my Economics & Health Science degree!

[@markmower1746]

Here comes the gender studies jokes...

[@RabbiJesus]

I’ve only studied one.

[@CollegeHacked]

Haha, if people could predict which ones were worthless, it wouldn't be surprising. ;)

[@victordgiron2522]

​@@CollegeHackedwhat do you think of gender studies?

[@charlottepeukert9095]

Why do you assume that someone who's well educated and feels passionate about the field will drop out? Some people like the hard stuff, the math, the physics, the engineering. Wether you'll later make a lot of money is a question, which can't be answered when entering college. If your're in your field of interest and work hard, you're in the right place.

[@Mell1B]

I think he was not referring to the passionated people but more to those that pick e. g. engeneering because they heard that being an engineer might be a good career choice.

[@CollegeHacked]

Thanks @mell1B for clarifying. That's what I was going for.

[@petespiak9627]

I like how a liberal studies degree allows you to tailor your coursework to align with specific career goals. For example, if you’re pursuing a career in early childhood education, you can present it on your resume as “Liberal Studies - with focused coursework in Early Childhood Education.”

[@RabbiJesus]

Absolutely agreed.

[@CollegeHacked]

Exactly!

[@billyoung8118]

First, I am literally putting together a Lego kit at the exact moment you said you might not be able to become an engineer no matter how good you were with Lego sets. I have to disagree with you when you said the engineering classes do not count to other majors. Many of the engineers who drop out, do so because they cannot handle the math. And the math is done before the other engineering classes even begin. So a lot of engineering majors quit before they've even had more than 1 or 2 of their true engineering classes. The math they've completed likely goes far beyond the math their new major needs, completing the needed math credits. I am an electrical engineering grad who has been tutoring engineers in math for decades.

[@webanon]

Licensed engineer here. This is spot on. I've always wished I understood math better. While the workload for the actual engineering courses was heavy, I think my last two years during my undergrad degree were easier than my first two. Sidebar: EEs are sharp. The two EEs I know are commercial pilots and their wages crush engineering wages...

[@joemacy2776]

I majored in math in college. I graduated two years ago, and I'm realizing that it's not as marketable as I thought it would be because it's too broad. I don't want to teach, but I don't know what other options I have with a degree as broad as math.

[@tonyg6334]

Specialize in a field of math or go into finance

[@weirdo911aw]

you learn how to code. you are now 1000x more employable. most companies like math majors who can code

[@CollegeHacked]

Industry values math majors. :) Find something math adjacent you enjoy doing and position your existing skills as being valuable to that industry. You’re a lot more marketable than you might think.

[@kharimarquette]

Pro Tip: Get degrees in areas that have high-paying jobs that benefit the ruling class (Doctors, Lawyers, Judges, etc.). Those degrees will allow you to make six figures a year and will make you a millionaire in 10 years time.

[@Kraeuterkeule]

the thing is that it makes a big difference in which country you do your master's degree, as the labor market (economy) in these countries differs and the demand for certain professional groups is also differently balanced.

[@TOM333-f1t]

I believe that any career can be successful if you have perseverance, know where you're headed, and possess creativity. In the field of programming, we could say that this will be a major pillar, but it's not just about programming simple things like advertisements and websites, as many have learned and now struggle to find work because the market is oversaturated. Instead, I’m referring to complex things that will come or be created, such as advanced artificial intelligence programming-which often requires at least a master's degree-or quantum computing, aerospace programming, cybersecurity, and more. I think the key is to explore new areas and tackle the hardest of the hard. But it all comes down to working hard, staying updated, and striving to be among the best. Remember, a knife doesn't cut by itself. It's not the same for an apprentice chef using that knife as it is for a professional chef who can cut very quickly in seconds because they have perfected their skill.

[@LDT2001]

Honestly I think you should just do what you want to. Its knowing and figuring out what that is, that's the hard part. Basing your future on whats making money right now will leave you in a shallow pond that you didnt start out wanting to be in.

[@Lokie-cd2hw]

Business major is good for those who just wants to party through college.

[@DarrenTandy]

Great content! I’ve noticed that many who regret their decision to major in Communications or Marketing have really poor interpersonal skills and lack the self-awareness to realize the root of their career “problem.” Both majors could “check the box” for sales careers (more CEO’s come from sales than finance).

[@CollegeHacked]

So well said.

[@Aye_Nyne]

Unless it involves AI or cybersecurity, almost every major will be worthless about a decade from now. Otherwise, you had better hope to get into law or medical school or inherit enough wealth to live off investments or start a business. There is almost no way you'll ever get rich working a 9-to-5 in any other industry as the average purchasing power continues to decline.

[@CollegeHacked]

True monetary wealth almost never comes from the 9-5 life, it comes from solving a problem for society and doing it as your own unique brand. Easier than most people think, though there are definitely hard things about it.

[@erikthereddest]

I work in marketing and no one I know in the field is here on purpose, so of course none of them have a marketing degree. Also, everyone in marketing is also using AI now.

[@rafaelb8608]

As a 44-year-old executive with global experience in finance and tech, hiring across five continents, I believe this video sends the wrong message to young people. In the corporate world, a university degree is valued-not necessarily for the specific skills you gain, but for the discipline, effort, and dedication it demonstrates. University skills can quickly become outdated, and people like me care more about adaptability and the ability to learn than your specific major. For example, I hire engineers for my finance teams because their training shows comfort with numbers-not to build bridges. A degree signals resilience and commitment . In today’s world, nobody cares if your degree is in marketing to work in marketing -many marketers never been to any marketing schools, and many CFOs are engineers. That said, where you went to school can matter a lot when starting your career. A degree from an institution without any competition to enter hold little or no value to me. I’d rather hire someone with no degree but strong aptitude than someone whose education was simply paid for without demonstrating real effort or commitment. These people will value the job a lot more and will be constantly working hard to acquire new skills.

[@CollegeHacked]

Great points, Rafael! That's one of the main points we preach here: college degrees are often valued because of the social signals they send. But we also believe that too many people believe that some of these degrees mentioned in this video are often viewed as golden tickets to an easy life and wealth, so while many people just need a degree, any degree, to earn that social signal, if one is wanting to optimize, hopefully this video encourages them to think in terms of ROI and backwards planning. But I totally get what you're saying. Very, very few people end up working in the field they majored in.

[@ONealHolcomb]

This post caught my attention. A four year college degree without computer skills, social skills, and AI trainingcan be a waste of time. I think it is wise to learn a trade like electronics, plumbing, mechanics ,welding, coding, and carpentry. Have a career that only need a certification to perform. I know hairstylist and nail technicians that live very comfortable lives without paying a ton of money for a four year college degree.

[@webanon]

The trades are underrated. Electricians can do quite well.

[@CollegeHacked]

The trades are an excellent way to go, but are also often physically demanding and come with a shelf life. If someone can earn an accredited four year degree for $6,000 in 1 year and it qualifies them for management work in their trade they wouldn’t otherwise qualify for, that’s a solid career strategy. It’s all in the ROI equation, each persons situation looks different!

[@Heero-xn8rj]

I disagree on business and no I don’t have that degree. But the kids with business degrees got jobs easy around 2008-2014. My English degree, not so much

[@sunnohh]

I got a BSBA focusing on economics and math around then and ngl, it has kicked ass - I drive porsches now

[@jeanpauldiaz2125]

Well that kind of sucks I wanted to get a software engineering degree, that puts a wrench in my plans

[@CollegeHacked]

This video is full of generalizations and food for thought. the Advice won’t apply to 100% of people, just like with anything else. :) If it gets you to your end goal and you’re confident, go for it!

[@camgere]

An MBA qualifies you to be an employee of a Fortune 500 company. An entrepreneur owns a startup company. It is common for entrepreneurs to be involved in several failed businesses before they learn the business of business. The importance of corporate entities. Being an employee of a similar small business allows you to learn all the mistakes without the downside. Don't blow all of you and your parent's savings on the first business. Businesses usually start out engineer led and end up marketing led. "The Lean Startup" by Eric Ries is the gold standard of entrepreneurial books.

[@webanon]

You have to be reasonably intelligent to become an engineer. You also have to be tenacious. I never met anyone who could coast through the curriculum and I've met some pretty bright people...

[@CollegeHacked]

100% agreed. People who are not tenacious or moderately intelligent in the particular types of intelligence required in Engineering will find it harder and thus are more likely to drop out.

[@bobdole6691]

Business is the best bang for your buck out of all of them. You didn’t study the more important skills when you were in college

[@encapsulatio]

No it isn't. There are book recommendations on youtube videos way better than 99% curriculums at universities when it comes to business,marketing or management degrees. The ONLY degree in business or entrepreneurship that is really worth it is if you find a university that is highly reputed and offers a in depth quantitative management/quantitative business degree program. The rest of business or entrepreneurship degrees that do not focus very heavily on quantitative methods are pretty useless. Only degrees that are worth going to a college/university are medical, law and engineering degrees like chemical engineering, material science engineering and mechanical engineering. Finance is a field I would do only if I'm doing the financial engineering degree, and focus only on those colleges that have super close relationships with private equity firms or hedge funds. You will make great money if you get in difficult to get positions in hedge funds or the banks and funds that focus especially on applied quant research type of activities. So only financial engineering is kind of the only degree where you are forced to go to a specialized university because of the special relationships with private equity firms and hedge funds. Other less demanding finance degrees or economics degrees you can self learn them with the help of a mentor then just get your CFA certification and you will know everything as if you went to a university. Electrical engineering you can probably self learn it yourself but unless you have a professor or a PHD graduate as a mentor you probably can't really do it 100% yourself. Even computer science you can do it yourself but you still need a mentor who can supervise your learning because it's tough to do it yourself at the same level of proficiency as at an university. The rest of the degrees I mentioned you absolutely need to go to a university to properly complete them, especially the engineering degrees where you have specialized equipment that is indispensable in your learning.

[@decoy562]

Hi Dr. Cliff, Enjoy your channel a lot. I enjoy learning and learning about the different ways you can learn that were not available when I was in college! I have a B.S. in Industrial Engineering, an MBA, and a M.S. in Supply Chain. I hope to finish up an M.S. in Industrial Engineering in 2025. Yes, I’m a nerd 😂 A few thoughts: I don’t think a business degree is worthless, but I think a degree in a specific field (engineering, accounting, finance) plus an MBA is a great combination. The MBA taught me all the high level business things I needed. Plus, seems like the Masters degree is the new Bachelors (at least were I work). I wanted to get defensive about engineering, but you made good points. You have to have a passion for math and the particular area of engineering. For industrial engineering, it is the easiest and most flexible of engineering degrees. They can work in supply chain, health care, etc. All about people and processes. While I’ve gone the conventional route of learning, I believe the options you give your viewers are great! It should not take 4-5 years to get a degree in the US. My “hack” I’d offer is this: once you get your bachelors degree, have your job pay for your schooling. I’ve been able to keep debt free education wise by my employers paying a good chunk of my masters degrees. Keep up the good work!

[@daveray5655]

What prompted you to get 2 ms degrees and an MBA?

[@decoy562]

@ I did my MBA maybe 5 years into my career. 15 years later, I decided it would be cool to get a masters in supply chain (the field I work in). I enjoyed it and decided to get one more in engineering. My employer is generous and pays for them.

[@daveray5655]

@@decoy562 " My employer is generous and pays for them." Ah yes, in that case I think you should get more degrees

[@CollegeHacked]

Great thoughts

[@hullo5]

I legit didn't know entrepreneurship was even a degree option 😅

[@Joshsmii]

i dont know what major to pursue because i stopped computer science because i didnt enjoy it. i currently edit videos for companies and people which does really well which makes me want to pursue that. But I feel like I should get a degree to fall back on.

[@CollegeHacked]

Your major doesn’t need to be related, necessarily :) Maybe think broader, like management or project management.

[@mättieuschwarzstern]

Hi! I'm a German major. I know that I will have to get a master's degree in order to gain employment a university. However, I am thinking about earning a doctorate in Higher Education after earning a master's degree in German. Do you think this is a good idea?

[@RabbiJesus]

I know a woman who got her degree in Welsh of all things. She’s unemployed.

[@CollegeHacked]

You should run the numbers and make sure that makes sense. Is it truly required for the position you want? Will it lead to higher pay and ultimately have a positive ROI? If not, then the reason for doing it must be intrinsic (personal pride, happiness, etc), or else it’s not a good idea :)

[@sayyara2921]

In Poland knowing German is a gold of mine, since Polish working force is one of the cheapest in europe, and therefore Germans like to move their positions to our land.

[@njpme]

Not very useful outside of a few European countries

[@Judith-w7d]

Ich habe das Video angeklickt, weil der Titel deutsch ist. Dann musste ich feststellen, dass es auf Englisch ist😔😔😔

[@CollegeHacked]

Nun, mein Nachname, Stumme, ist deutsch, also hat es dich vielleicht angesprochen. :)

[@TiyuLP]

Eeh. No study is useless in its form since it is just deeper knowledge about a topic in the first place.

[@charleswells5751]

Tell this joke to the economy. Supply and demand rules.

[@TiyuLP]

@charleswells5751 but a study isnt about economy my guy. it is in the first hand for learning things. we just dont do a good job about communicating what is possible with a degree and what not.

[@CollegeHacked]

True. But if some people are depending on a degree as a golden ticket to the life they want, hopefully this video helps them realize that not all paths are as perfect as they seem.

[@jryanp]

Have you done any videos on American College of Education's degrees? Not sure how hackable they are but they are certainly a low cost option with frequent recurring start dates it appears.

[@CollegeHacked]

Haven't looked into that one yet. Will have to!

[@johndoeee888]

sitting here with a bachelors in business management. -__-

[@CollegeHacked]

😂 Only “worthless” as in you don’t NEED that particular degree to be in management :) Any regionally accredited degree is still worthwhile!

[@The_Dapper_Millennial]

What are your thoughts on Indiana University online? I’m seriously considering going back to school at 31 and getting a BS and MBA there.

[@CollegeHacked]

No opinion as of yet, but I might look into it. :)

[@The_Dapper_Millennial]

@ I was hoping you would ;)

[@jayb2332]

What majors are worth it can you make a video about it

[@CollegeHacked]

We did

[@StarlahMutiny]

No Slytherin ey?

[@aa6dcc]

your whole point is what? things are changing so don't get a degree? a degree in CS will still hold value, same for engineering. On top of the hard skills you get it highlights your ability to adapt, work as a team and learn many different things simultaneously. That will still be in demand in the future. And even though some things change, a lot of what you learnt you'll still be able to use when it comes to quantitative degrees like maths, CS, engineering or physics. many jobs specifically require certain degrees. You need a quantitative background to work in trading for example, good luck working at Jane Street with a degree in psychology. Good luck working in medicine with an english degree. People use degrees as ways of "checking" your level, not just taking what you claim for granted when you were talking about SWE and engineering and started dropping keywords like AI, you just made it clear you had no understanding of SWE at all. Sure, some jobs in the past in SWE didn't require degrees, but as you said with how competitive it is, having a degree gives you the upper edge. that's why most SWE have degrees, even more so nowadays. It's just an extra smth to separate you from the rest

[@CollegeHacked]

Great questions and great points here. My point was that for many commonly held use cases and scenarios, some of these degrees are not nearly as valuable as people think. Many listicles put degrees like some of these at the top and make everyone think, "This is the best degree. I better get this one." But some of these degree have drawbacks or challenges or lower ROI that make them worthless for the use cases I outlined in the video. There's no one-size fits all uber-degree, but sometimes even the uber-degrees are worthless to many people.

[@SrAntonio301]

This is going to stir the pot.

[@CollegeHacked]

That’s basically our unspoken mission 😎

[@thugwafflebro8062]

Ty

[@Joseph-tm5vv]

All I need to know in order to understand you don’t know what you’re talking about is hear you say engineering is worthless for the reasons you gave, smh

[@CollegeHacked]

I'll copy what I pinned for all to read in response to some concerns from commenters: A few commenters have expressed concerns with the value or accuracy of this video. And I'll admit the title and concept are provocative. And I can understand why someone would be "surprised" if they clicked on this video expecting me to just make fun of Interpretive Dance and Gender Studies for 13 minutes. But if viewers listen to what I'm saying, they'll see that I'm discussing these college majors being "surprisingly worthless" in specific use cases, but still ones that are commonly chosen or desired by those who enroll in these majors. And in many of those cases, these majors may indeed be surprisingly worthless. The point of this video wasn't to be a definitive list of majors no one should ever pick. A lot of listicles attempt that, and they're all garbage because they don't consider use cases and individual student goals. That's an impossible thing to do because everyone's different. So I satirized and attacked those supposedly helpful lists by explaining why some college majors we all assume are awesome are actually surprisingly worthless for many people in many situations (even if we generally assume that these majors are good fits for people in those situations). The goal here is to encourage critical thinking and a different approach to career planning. I'll stand by the underlying concepts of pro/con thinking, cost/benefit analysis, and outcome measurement vs input measurement that I mention throughout the video. I think I do a good job of clarifying in which use cases, market conditions, and individual goals each major may be worthless. Some majors that we put on a pedestal or that are very popular have surprising flaws or costs that for many people make them worthless. It's meant to be a fun video that gets people thinking about their career and college in an ROI-informed way and that encourages folks to question basic assumptions about college majors that many take for granted. Totally get it if it doesn't work for you though. Hopefully the principles explained are still useful to you. I will admit too that "worthless" is a bit of hyperbole as any college major is still a bachelors degree and still opens up about 85% of bachelors degree-requiring jobs. But that's something we all knew, I figured would be assumed.

[@jayb2332]

If possible can you make a video about LSU ONLINE ? I’m torn between lsu online and liberty university online 😢

[@CollegeHacked]

LSU is a great school but not hackable. Liberty is hackable. The right choice for you all depends on your priorities!

[@ChampagneCAPO]

Is general business = business administration?

[@accountsequity5587]

Yes.

[@pascoett]

You become a teacher because 13 weeks of holidays are awesome. The usual teacher always has something going on besides teaching- because he or she‘s got the time. The „kids“ are also a great inspiration and keep you young and sharp!

[@Dr.Beetlejuice110]

False, I'm in the education field and I've never heard of any teacher getting into the field because "you get so much time off.". I have heard work life balance. But these days, that's destroyed. Try and check your career prejudice at the door before talking about a career you know nothing about. Don't understand why people are so prejudiced against teachers these days, it makes no sense. You upset with them getting so much time off, join a teamster union and advocate for your career to get that time off. Getting weekends off was fought for by unions. Getting benefits were fought for by unions. Stop hating on certain careers and start fighting for the things you want in your careers with unions. Nursing has gone one strike, pharmacists have gone on strike, boeng has gone one strike, transporting goods companies have gone on strike, amazon workers are just now getting back from striking. Stop hating on careers and fight to better your own.

[@pascoett]

@@Dr.Beetlejuice110 Unfortunately for You, I am a teacher since many years. Highest teaching diplomas and master degrees from the university. I love teaching, I am earning really well, I also love working with the kids. Without those 13 weeks of holidays though, that job isn't for me. Don't attack people you don't know and stay bitter and small in your career choice.

[@RabbiJesus]

@@Dr.Beetlejuice110that’s the most common positive thing I hear about the career. Did you get your Doctorate from DeVry?

[@anne1734]

Could you do a video on American Military University?

[@CollegeHacked]

Don’t go there

[@elpotro939]

What about Medicine?? Do you recommend that carreer?

[@CollegeHacked]

If it’s your passion, yes. If it’s for money, no.

[@JensN113]

What utter nonsense this video is. If those were worthless, everybody pursuing those majotrs would be unemployed

[@CollegeHacked]

I'll copy what I pinned for all to read in response to some concerns from commenters: A few commenters have expressed concerns with the value or accuracy of this video. And I'll admit the title and concept are provocative. And I can understand why someone would be "surprised" if they clicked on this video expecting me to just make fun of Interpretive Dance and Gender Studies for 13 minutes. But if viewers listen to what I'm saying, they'll see that I'm discussing these college majors being "surprisingly worthless" in specific use cases, but still ones that are commonly chosen or desired by those who enroll in these majors. And in many of those cases, these majors may indeed be surprisingly worthless. The point of this video wasn't to be a definitive list of majors no one should ever pick. A lot of listicles attempt that, and they're all garbage because they don't consider use cases and individual student goals. That's an impossible thing to do because everyone's different. So I satirized and attacked those supposedly helpful lists by explaining why some college majors we all assume are awesome are actually surprisingly worthless for many people in many situations (even if we generally assume that these majors are good fits for people in those situations). The goal here is to encourage critical thinking and a different approach to career planning. I'll stand by the underlying concepts of pro/con thinking, cost/benefit analysis, and outcome measurement vs input measurement that I mention throughout the video. I think I do a good job of clarifying in which use cases, market conditions, and individual goals each major may be worthless. Some majors that we put on a pedestal or that are very popular have surprising flaws or costs that for many people make them worthless. It's meant to be a fun video that gets people thinking about their career and college in an ROI-informed way and that encourages folks to question basic assumptions about college majors that many take for granted. Totally get it if it doesn't work for you though. Hopefully the principles explained are still useful to you. I will admit too that "worthless" is a bit of hyperbole as any college major is still a bachelors degree and still opens up about 85% of bachelors degree-requiring jobs. But that's something we all knew, I figured would be assumed.

[@Lankester_Merrin]

I have a B A in Criminal Justice... any opinions ?

[@CollegeHacked]

Tons!

[@joshuaobryant6064]

Is the UMPI project management and information systems bachelors worth it if you are someone who has significant IT experience that wants to check the ☑️ of having the bachelors degree?

[@CollegeHacked]

It’s one of the best options in that scenario, definitely

[@joshuaobryant6064]

@CollegeHacked is it feasible to complete the last 30 credits in 2 months for that degree?

[@taquliamccaleb]

Any info on Post University 🤔

[@CollegeHacked]

None as of yet. Will keep an eye out.

[@YuShawStang]

I had a finance AS degree and a BA of business admin degree. The later one was way easier to get. And then, I need to get a MS accounting to open more doors ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Messp]

Is A STEM in business good?

[@RabbiJesus]

Science Technology Engineering Mathematics. I believe you could get a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration.

[@Messp]

@ Theirs colleges that offer a STEM Business degree is this good?

[@RabbiJesus]

@@Messp so instead of electives they require science and math classes? If that’s the case, it sounds awesome.

[@richardmanoske8432]

This is cringe Clif. A title claiming some college majors are "worthless" oversimplifies the issue. So - let's not go throwing around the word "worthless" when it comes to college majors, huh? As you say, a degree is just a starting point. It's not some mystical crystal ball that predicts your entire future. The real magic happens when you take that piece of paper and make it work for you. Take business, you claim as a dime-a-dozen degree, but I beg to differ. In fact, I recall it being the #5 best online degree in one of your videos. And at UMPI, it's fast. Fast and inexpensive? Sign me up! Software engineering? Sure, the field is evolving, but those technical skills and problem-solving chops? Employers are drooling over 'em. So don't be so quick to write off these "worthless" majors, my friend.

[@CollegeHacked]

I don't know about cringe though I'll admit the concept is a bit provocative... I'll stand by the underlying concepts of pro/con thinking, cost/benefit analysis, and outcome measurement vs input measurement that I mention throughout the video. I think I do a good job of clarifying in which use cases, market conditions, and individual goals each major may be worthless. Some majors that we put on a pedestal or that are very popular have surprising flaws or costs that for many people make them worthless. It's meant to be a fun video that gets people thinking about their career and college in an ROI-informed way and that encourages folks to question basic assumptions about college majors that many take for granted. Totally get it if it doesn't work for you though. Hopefully the principles explained are still useful to you.

[@RabbiJesus]

@@richardmanoske8432 Of course this is painted with a broad stroked brush. An in depth analysis of your major and career path are highly personal and subjective. Im sure they’re available to take your call if that’s what you need.

[@richardmanoske8432]

@@CollegeHacked Thanks. I don't think we're far apart at all on this topic. In fact, I really appreciate the thoughtful approach you've taken in your videos on college majors and career planning, particularly your focus on pro/con analysis and outcomes. Some of the videos you've put out recently may have been your best yet. I agree that encouraging critical, ROI-informed thinking about career choices is incredibly valuable. However, I still find this title claiming that these college majors are "worthless" to be an oversimplification that feels awkward and potentially misleading. Your previous videos on "Best" online college degrees and majors do a much better job of addressing the inherent complexity here. Overall I'm still a fan of your efforts. Keep up the great work in empowering students to make informed, strategic choices about their education.

[@SrAntonio301]

They’re ultimately trying to sell their program 🤷 keep in mind I’ve paid for their program it’s very useful but yeah it’s a clickbait title meant to generate views and snag some sales. But hey more power to them that’s capitalism baby.

[@CollegeHacked]

@@richardmanoske8432 Totally hear what you're saying, and I will take this advice to heart for future video titles/topics. Thank you!

[@yoda_car]

i swear someone could have asked chatgpt of 2 years ago to write this script and it would have produced 10x more interesting and valuable insights than this slop video contains

[@RabbiJesus]

Your EQ is showing.

[@yoda_car]

@@RabbiJesus free palestine

[@RabbiJesus]

@@yoda_car exactly, it was free, so we took it.

[@CollegeHacked]

I'll copy what I pinned for all to read in response to some concerns from commenters: A few commenters have expressed concerns with the value or accuracy of this video. And I'll admit the title and concept are provocative. And I can understand why someone would be "surprised" if they clicked on this video expecting me to just make fun of Interpretive Dance and Gender Studies for 13 minutes. But if viewers listen to what I'm saying, they'll see that I'm discussing these college majors being "surprisingly worthless" in specific use cases, but still ones that are commonly chosen or desired by those who enroll in these majors. And in many of those cases, these majors may indeed be surprisingly worthless. The point of this video wasn't to be a definitive list of majors no one should ever pick. A lot of listicles attempt that, and they're all garbage because they don't consider use cases and individual student goals. That's an impossible thing to do because everyone's different. So I satirized and attacked those supposedly helpful lists by explaining why some college majors we all assume are awesome are actually surprisingly worthless for many people in many situations (even if we generally assume that these majors are good fits for people in those situations). The goal here is to encourage critical thinking and a different approach to career planning. I'll stand by the underlying concepts of pro/con thinking, cost/benefit analysis, and outcome measurement vs input measurement that I mention throughout the video. I think I do a good job of clarifying in which use cases, market conditions, and individual goals each major may be worthless. Some majors that we put on a pedestal or that are very popular have surprising flaws or costs that for many people make them worthless. It's meant to be a fun video that gets people thinking about their career and college in an ROI-informed way and that encourages folks to question basic assumptions about college majors that many take for granted. Totally get it if it doesn't work for you though. Hopefully the principles explained are still useful to you. I will admit too that "worthless" is a bit of hyperbole as any college major is still a bachelors degree and still opens up about 85% of bachelors degree-requiring jobs. But that's something we all knew, I figured would be assumed.

[@aliasdoe007]

I majored in Underwater Basket Weaving and quite honestly did not graduate. I decided to work hard at a mediocre job building skillsets and knowledge in a job most people at the time did not think twice about. Over time with my skillsets experience and knowledge made me very marketable with a decent salary most liberal college graduates can only dream about being college debt free 😊 I never cared for law, business, medical, or financial degrees or careers period. I know and have friends who work in these profession and they literally hate their job with college debts yet be paid.

[@RabbiJesus]

@@aliasdoe007 if you follow cliffs advice you’ll graduate for a fraction of the traditional cost. Liberal studies is great, it’s the Cliff Claven degree.

[@trekster9269]

Yes, that has always been an alternative. But you're here and that indicates you're wanting to continue your education. Go for it.

[@aliasdoe007]

@@trekster9269 Nope. Life is too short to waste on the pursuit of a worthless degree. Learned that long-long ago in a galaxy far-far away. I was just curious what the 7 worthless college degrees were. But for anyone who wishes to pursue a higher education or continue learning please do 👍