7 Top Takeaways From Force On Force Training From Over 200 Students

Curious about force on force training? Myles, the Founer of Tactical Hyve, shares the top 7 takeaways we've gathered from over 200 force on force students.
Force-on-force training is arguably the best training one can get. It's an eye-opening experience that we recommend everyone try at least once.
If you have the opportunity to place yourself in realistic force-on-force scenarios, even better!
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[@mikej3584]

One of the F.O.F classes I've taken with simunition guns, was a home invasion scenario. In short I shot the intruder who pointed a gun at me, he dropped, but what I didn't do was go and check to make sure he wasn't still a threat. As I went to call 911 he pulled a second gun out of his waistband and shot me while I was dialing. DEFINITELY a lesson learned! Great video and channel by the way! Thank you!

[@flyboy8752]

I’ve become a huge fan of having a single airpod in my ear most of the time because I can have Siri dial 911 without even having to pull my cell phone out for this reason and for things like first responder scenarios when needing contact 911 while still having both hands free.

[@jamesforteze1282]

Good video. I grew up in Chicago, had a gun drawn on me several times before I was even an adult. I can tell you, most of the "self defense" taught out there is garbage, even the stuff by "special forces" guys. Combat as a team is nothing like the streets for a civilian. But this video touches on a lot of accurate things and I do like what they're saying. I would say even casual force on force training with your buddies is way more useful than 10 thousand rounds at the indoor range. Shooting and gun manipulation is probably the least worthwhile skill in the streets. All the other stuff they talk about here is much more important. Your mindset, the ability to calm yourself, the ability to see things developing, the ability to look at someone and size them up or see if they may be carrying. This is all way more important than shooting drills, at least in the street. Also, in the streets, if a guy pulls a gun on you and you haven't been shot yet, it probably means he doesn't want to shoot you. This is a very delicate situation where you must weigh the options millisecond by millisecond. Comply at first but always be ready for a shift that forces you take action. But don't force that action until a shift has happened that makes you believe he is about to pull the trigger. Pretend to be fully complying but also planning or angling for the move you may have to make.

[@bryananderson3772]

The most important thing (as you suggested) is to keep the attacker happy as long as they have the drop on you. You're going to get blown away if you try to draw a gun when one is already pointing at you. The best you can do is comply and wait until he's distracted by somthing else. They will get complacent if they think right from the start that you are not a threat.

[@bp6877]

Your commentary was right on the mark. It's the "Rule of Three": Most violent encounters occur within three feet, three rounds, and three seconds. Defender is virtually always going to be at an initiative deficit. This informs me that a tactical combat system is likely going to be the initial reaction, followed by either a less lethal (mace) or lethal (firearm) tool.

[@BirdDogey1]

I've found that in real life, things develop without a clear defense shooting scenario presenting itself. You see it coming but, for legal reasons, have to wait for the threat to fully develop before the use of deadly force can be applied. So yes, as Myles pointed out, you have to be reading pre threat indicators. Situational awareness is key.

[@3nertia]

Reading books, watching videos, or taking a course on body language is also invaluable as part of that situational awareness skill set! I found the book The Definitive Book of Body Language: The Hidden Meaning Behind People's Gestures and Expressions by Barbara & Allan Pease to be highly informative and enlightening :)

[@flyboy8752]

Lots of those interviewed in After Action Reports from shootings admit they never saw their sights during most close range engagements, so definitely something to think about adding to training (natural point of aim / index training). Haven’t heard much regarding optics now that they’re becoming more popular, but I’d be willing to bet that within a certain range, most still will use natural point of aim / body index / point shooting for close in shootings too. I’d love to see some research on it though.

[@victormaxwell1919]

Gentleman like always excellent content I was with the Sheriff's Department in Washington State I've seen officers get tunnel vision

[@maxheadroom4659]

All good points.

[@mikereese15]

Great takeaways Myles. Appreciate these force on force videos and scenarios.

[@Fer-De-Lance]

Thank you.

[@saldana787]

Great points, if you’re not doing force on force, you gotta step it up. Spend the money of that new gun, new sight, into some force on force training and put your skills to the test.

[@AUTOxMATIK]

Good info off the jump

[@onpsxmember]

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[@walterlewis7988]

Thanks! Very nice job.

[@dynamicsolutions5712]

Great video and information.

[@NOFACEZ]

5:41 my man did a mag drop 💧💧💧

[@YouveBeenMiddled]

Al Gore's Rhythm is off the beat today. Be sure to like, comment and subscribe. In the OODA loop, we're discussing Observe, Orient and Decide here today. The Action is relatively easy, but being _ready_ for that part is what keeps you and your loved ones alive, free and happy.

[@andyuseman7980]

Normalcy bias is hard to overcome

[@jessiewasson584]

You don’t even need to go to a force to n force class literally play paintball or airsoft best training been playing my whole life and this is coming for army infantryman

[@Goldenwithaleash]

I have done simunition training but is been a while. Need to fix that.

[@ezznaser2010]

. How do i sign up for force-on-force class? Please provide a link or advise

[@josupermom2042]

#1. Never stop learning, one class in not enough. #2. get stop the bleed training and carry at least tourniquet and chest seal if you are carrying a gun. And Practice using them under stress! #3. be the one to call 911. In todays society with people glued to there phones, you want to be the one talking to dispatch if at all possible. #4. if the instructors from your class don't debrief you on what you could have done better and what you did right. A. find a better class :) and B. wright down what happened and how you could improve. #5. If you carry a gun get, gun/ self defense insurance. This is one of those things that it is better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. #6. Practice, Practice, Practice. Drawing your gun, reloading your gun, Malfunction clearing. You can do these things dryfiring at home, It is good to practice at the range also, but some ranges won't let you draw from a holster especially if it is concealed. Don't let the first time you draw your gun from your shiny new holster be when you need to save your life. #7. You will probably have dreams about your class good and bad. Talk to someone about it! Weather it is your spouse, friend or your instructor ( if available) Talk through it, that way you don't end up with training scars from it. #8. Be aware of your surroundings! A lot of scenarios that are in the classes and in real life could be avoided if you just pay attention. That is my takeaway. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Have a great day!

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[@StrollaLawDefense]

Forget about the black letter laws in your State. You better be very realistic, and knowledgeable, about the county you live in and how liberal of an elected prosecutor you have for that area! Liberal and anti 2A prosecutors don’t care about the law nor your freedoms. Unethical and over zealous prosecutors are ten times worse than any political activist judge. Your freedom and life could literally be determined by what city you had to defend your life in.

[@pyeitme508]

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[@steveleung855]

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