8 Dark Side Orders That Rivaled the Sith

[@K.J.Richard]

I like this new background music, make me felt like a Jedi walking alone on Korriban in the valley of the dark lords just to discover that Darth Andeddu's tomb is in reality empty.

[@everramblingseandee]

i find the mix a bit too loud over the narration, otherwise a good choice.

[@wit4023]

@@everramblingseandee yeah it's a little bit loud but it is good music

[@oscarherrera3694]

You need to go out lmao

[@nicholasbrown4124]

I was reminded of kotor for some reason

[@Sandman27-88]

Jesus dude I’ll prey for you. (Yeah. The spellings intentional. Lol)

[@xTK421x]

Darth Millennial needs a hug and positive reinforcement after an argument with Conges.

[@maccurtis730]

"Enemies are not accidental or unfortunate we make them we earn them and we nurture them whether we realize it or not. If we can't find real enemies we'll invent them and make them as big as we can they become our justification for existing or excuses for our own failings many of us would suffer if we didn't have them who would need Jedi if there were no dark Force users?" Killian Lord Gajakur.

[@troyanderson7851]

We are also chosen by them

[@matthewwithum8372]

Great quote.

[@joshishere96]

Jedi would be still be used as construction workers, chefs, everything. Imagine buildings built quicker by the force.

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

Punctuation marks were Gajakur's real enemy.

[@1977rodi]

Besides the Sith, the nightsisters are so enigmatic. I would like to see them in a Star Wars movie. As always, excellent videos! Thanks!

[@youngmoneyclutch]

you saw ventress in the clone wars movie 😂 i know what you mean tho

[@williamleroy1530]

Yes Please!

[@lol34.]

God I wish they included the night sisters

[@maxxdahl6062]

Black Knights are even more enigmatic.

[@davidchase9424]

We have to wait for Empress KK to get fired...or thrown into a power core.

[@echosdatacore2056]

Sorcerers of Rhand were incredibly sadistic and just fucked up. If you wanna know about them, just read Luke Skywalker: The Shadows of Mindor.

[@brianlucas7762]

Ho dare you say such a thing like that! 😡👎

[@xdmztryvsvedine2773]

What’s an example of something they did?

[@echosdatacore2056]

@@xdmztryvsvedine2773, They drilled into people's brains and planted a control mechanism that tortured them over to Cronal's faction. They did it for children to if I recall.

[@Stumbo99]

That's funny, I just saw that book at a bookstore I was at today 😆

[@angelusumbrae]

I always feel like the neutral Force using orders have the "best way" of things. They often have their own unique issues, but they seem more balanced and less prone to the serious issues of the Jedi and Sith. People like Anakin who had that deep seated passion that would not be driven out could have found more understanding through something like a neutral place too I think. He was just deeply Force attuned in general, but if he hadn't had to hide who he was he may have went a different better way.

[@blackshogun272]

I made a fanfic timeline in SW Legends that had a group of Jedi break off from the Jedi Order a hundred or so years after the events in the Legacy Era. This sect would act as an elite Force-Sensitive police force that patrolled The Republic worlds (territories) and it's borders to maintain peace and bring justice to the suffering. I envisioned their usage of the Force as in a passionate sense of duty and honor to their organization, The Republic, and compassion/justice for the endangered and suffering in the galaxy. They're basically and evolution of The Knights of Zakuul; less fanatical but loyal to their duty as protectors.

[@chickenusgoddus464]

@@blackshogun272 isn't that basically the legions of lettow? Or am I stupid it's been years since I've read those books

[@blackshogun272]

@@chickenusgoddus464 well I did write their breakoff from the Jedi Order similarly to that of Xendor's followers. But instead of becoming Dark Jedi they basically became updated Imperial Knights/Knights of Zakuul but for The Republic. To answer your question though: kinda. But I did create a formal order of Dark Jedi that exist as a Monastic Paramilitary group.

[@chickenusgoddus464]

@@blackshogun272 ah that sounds cool could ya link it or like say it's title (and website)

[@blackshogun272]

@@chickenusgoddus464 oh, I haven't actually put it anywhere outside an old Word Doc. It's a skeleton for a SW story, not a complete literary work. That's how most of my story ideas end up. Nowadays I expand on my ideas by creating new locations, characters that aren't just fated archetypes or there just to be "there". Not gonna lie, I should stopped the timeline after like ~500 BBY cuz afterwards the power creep and fantasy elements kinda overwhelmed the sci-fi aspect of Star Wars.

[@andy2200]

Fans: Material on abundance, to work with you have. Disney: No, No. Instead. How about we throw shit in the fan and whatever flies back out should be gold.

[@expred]

Yoda: "These visions you have ..." Anakin: "They are of pain, suffering ... death." Yoda: "Someone close to you?" Anakin: "Something." Yoda: "It is the future you see. Death of a franchise. Disney it is. Sequels they are." Anakin: "What must I do, Master Yoda?" Yoda: "Rest... I must. Yes. Rest." *ignores Anakin*

[@vadersgodchild1043]

You are my new SPIRIT ANIMAL!! THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT!!!!👊👊👊👊💯💯💯💯

[@m0z4rt9000]

>knights of ren >fearsome opponents in battle Pick one.

[@jackagonis9302]

I’d join the shapers if I had a choice. The idea of battle shamans wielding the four elements just sounds super cool to me. Pulse they’re one of the only orders that doesn’t seem as crazed from drawing on the dark side. Perhaps the secret to safe dark side usage is related to spirit worship?

[@anthonyyoutubefan7567]

And...NONE OF THEM were featured in The Sequel Trilogy...a tragedy.

[@marshalllatta2073]

The dark side of the force is a path way of many abilities some considered to be unnatural

[@KaijuBiologist]

People keep saying this, but no one ever gives examples. I want examples, please, and thank you.

[@ender5023]

It seems that the issue with any of these dark-side organizations in regard to the question in the video above "which one would you join (if any)?" is that none of them appear to be friendly to outsiders... That being said, that seems to be the nature of fear which appears to be the root of most dark side emotions. However, I find the nontraditional dark side force wielders, those similar to the night sisters, to be the most intriguing.

[@tonyfranz1715]

It would be an interesting mini series to see Palpatine and Vader hunt down darksiders.

[@thenewworldofpeace7819]

I love the Dark Side force wielding beings. But “There is no dark side no light side only the force.” Is pretty cool.

[@benjaminmiller1322]

Ive been watcing "Stupendous Wave" videos hours a day for weeks now. Great stuff. Clicked "like" to. Thanks!

[@christopherhanton6611]

nice video glad you show some pics of other sith lords from star wars

[@barontakedownthisguy7794]

Honestly the Blackguard are the most interesting to me, they seem to be more interested in gaining knowledge then doing nasty things just because they could. (Looking at you Sorcerers of Rhand) Although they seem willing to be cruel to get what they want there is a point to what they do. That and I think they look really cool.

[@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233]

I can get behind that. They seem complex. They seek to bring balance, but will do whatever it takes to succeed. Very human in nature.

[@BJETNT]

This is one hell of a video that I enjoyed a lot. It amazes me how thought out and descriptive this legendarium is. Reminds me of the Middle Earth works of JRR Tolkien. Although I think Star wars is more thought out and detailed which is one hell of a feet in itself. But multiple people contributed to the legendarium of Star wars rather than just one as in JRR tolkien's works. Out of all imaginary legendariums these two are the best.

[@brianlucas7762]

What if there was a Force Organization that was infatuated with both the Dark Side and the Light Side of the Force?

[@tamaoyukimura4596]

There's been a few like that only 1 I can remember tho is the Jed'aii order the order that the Jedi came from (Sith too technically)

[@reaper39100]

They used to be jedi but were cast out for believing that in order to fully understand the force you'll need to balance both the light and the dark.

[@tamaoyukimura4596]

@@reaper39100 not quite the ancient Jed'aii came before the Jedi and sith

[@reaper39100]

@@tamaoyukimura4596 I have failed you

[@khaleed9110]

Ashoka and mace windu would be great leaders in that

[@jonathandaniels8751]

You guys are gaining considerable prestige.

[@mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426]

The sorcerers of Rhand seem like the worst out all of these bunch. Genocidal maniacs with the ability of foresight. Very powerful.

[@DTS_I]

They’re pretty weak compared to the Sith but are more dangerous for sure.

[@mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426]

@@DTS_I wouldn't say pretty weak at all. They can use darksight to see into the past and future, and bring about a future they will They can send entropy waves that can age people years Psychic blasts capable of destroying objects and ships. If not for luke skywalker, lord shadowspawn would of destroyed the new Republic. Read shadow of mindor for more details.

[@DTS_I]

@@mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426 yeah but the dark sight kind of needs things to fall directly into place for that vision to come true. It’s not a guarantee. I’ll have to check it out tho, the rhandites and yuzhan vong are the most interesting subjects of the unknown regions.

[@joshishere96]

That's why to me the Grey Jedi order whoops everyone. Imagine if the Grey Jedi are so successful they are as capable as arcann, thexann, or star killer. All have black robes to represent fearlessness but all have yellow lightsabers the represent both hope and the rage of fire at the same time. They would be seen as the council and police of the force bringing fourth justice where it's required. They'll just jump in to destroy the murderous massacres of the sith using dark side abilities to counter the sith with speed and flexibility, or even stopping the corruption of the Jedi by preventing them from interfering with politics and reminding the Jedi what they fight for. Both Sith and Jedi wouldn't like the Grey Jedi for sure.

[@marcusyoung4789]

Can we get just a sith based game where we can create them from the ground up and decide what era of Star Wars we can put them in

[@grey9524]

Um... Yes! More of all of them please!

[@FedupAmerican1982]

I would like a Knights of Ren video. These rare looks are awesome. Thank you

[@kevincalgta]

Since you went over every single dark side order that there is in Star Wars I believe that there was one that you should’ve gone over and see video they were loyal servants of the true Sith emperor vitiate These six dark lords of the fifth were so powerful that even the sit emperor himself nealed before then they were known as the Dred musters the deadliest group of Sith lords during the old republic era

[@ByzantineDarkwraith]

but... he was going over all the dark side orders that weren't sith... and I'm pretty sure that those Sith Lords you're talking about are, well, sith

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Did that shit is fucking terrifying. Even the inmates near them died.

[@Lavendeer201]

Pardon me but what was this group called? I had trouble reading lol

[@ByzantineDarkwraith]

@@Lavendeer201 I think he's talking about the Dread Masters ?

[@blackshogun272]

Everything you said sounds correct, but I doubt Vitiate would bow before anyone or anything in existence; at least not willingly.

[@AC_blessed]

Would have been cool to have seen the sorcerers of rand as the antagonists for the sequel trilogy

[@robertoliver7368]

The Ren are the Dark Side version of the Stimpy.

[@michaelhearson]

Thanks for sharing different groups other than the Jedi or the Sith. The Killian Rangers are very cool. Most of their force skill set include weapon deflection and force Imbuing but I am sure they possess other force abilities that are similar to the Jedi. Such as enhanced senses, agility, reflections. And perhaps similar powers like telepathy, Empathy, farsight, Force Absorb, Healing, mind trick and the like. That's just my thoughts on this subject.

[@Lekuster93]

I want an RTS-game based on these different Force-wielder factions, both light and dark 😁❤️

[@ravenshadowe1744]

The one I would want to be part of is the Black Guard. I find their aesthetic unimaginative, but their philosophy reminds me of what I like about Kyle Katarn.

[@JoshuaJacksonElevatedMugetsu]

Definitely would love to see a good Knights of Rin video 👍

[@OrdinaryInspiration]

the sorcerers of tund are extinct. they were betrayed by their last student. Lando had met him and defeated him.

[@realJoeMavro]

Another dark side cult that deserves some recognition is the Bando Gora. They were fairly short-lived and didn't have much of an impact in the grand scheme of things, but they had style. Their base was a moon in the Bogden system that's covered almost completely covered in cemeteries and crypts and their plan was basically to turn everyone in the galaxy into drugged-up zombies.

[@dashawnhines9612]

I need to ask why couldn't we have gotten any of these Force groups in the movies they would have opened so many doors and brought so many discussions that I feel like is actually a waste

[@logandeathrage6945]

It is do to Disney throwing the whole Expanded Universe into the trash bin after first buying the IP. Disney only brought it back a couple years ago.

[@silvernexoknight]

So Awesome! 🗡️🖤

[@domonator5000]

Some elaboration on the Knights of Ren would be cool

[@bradybugge5128]

I would Like to see videos on ALL OF THESE! Thank you

[@justinbarnes6833]

Loved this video! Truly awesome and thorough review! Would love to see the Knights of Ren breakdown!

[@makisonoda7925]

Wish we could see more Force based order in the Star Wars media franchise besides the Nightsisters, Jedi, and Sith. Like to see a video about the knights of Ren please.

[@Steve_P_B]

I would appreciate if you could have like a title card for each group with the spelling so we could look them up for further reading

[@sjarulz]

Please absolutely do a deep dive video on the Knights of Ren

[@DrRhino53]

I’m totally down with a knights of the Ren video!!!

[@ChurchNietzsche]

We absolutely need an in depth analysis of the Knights of Ren and the Night Sisters.

[@dfsakjldjkvsldfj5304]

It would be awesome to see a video of all the dark side groups in this video

[@herodaresfire4512]

There's more info on the Sorcerers of Tund in the Lando adventures trilogy. They were all killed, and maybe the surface of the planet themselves, when Rokur Gepta used a Force ability called the electromagnetic torpedo.

[@TexasMandoa]

I love your work!

[@JKH133]

Would love to see more about the Ren

[@gracefulannie-grcflannie-]

I would definitely like to see a dedicated video on the Knights of Ren.

[@deoge3278]

I can't remember which of your videos are my favorite...I literally can't remember any I didn't like. But this 1 is definitely top 5. I can't get enough of this kinda stuff. So plz MORE! The more detailed the better. I use to think I was Star Wars fan. I've learned I'm barely a novice. But hands down my favorite subject is lesser known force wielding groups and orders...sects. All of that! The Knights of Ren are so badass. And I know so little about them. So PLEASE make that video about them 🤘. Idk how u do it...even with a team. With all the content out there. Shit changes all the time. What's canon...what's not. Legends...its, never-ending. And y'all put out a ton of stuff!? Its impressive as hell. Plz don't stop. Tyty

[@georgewhaley8951]

They say that a antagonist is a shadow of a protagonist and that the protagonist is only measured by the scope of the antagonist.

[@logicplague]

I try to avoid committing to sides in religions and political groups, I like keeping my objectivity.

[@thebro6204]

That's how you end up a dark jedi

[@blackshogun272]

@@thebro6204 damn. Oh well, was kinda my end goal to begin with after I get kicked out or self-exile myself from the Jedi Order.

[@CausticSpace]

@@thebro6204 Then so be it

[@howardlanus8467]

Of all of these, I think the Sorcerers of Rhand would make a great villain for a Star Wars series or trilogy. Their entire existence is to destroy everything. Not rule or protect. Destroy. You can't really ally with such a group, unless you intend to betray them at the earliest opportunity, which ironically only serves to further their end goal. But my personal favorite are the Shapers of Kro Var. I would love to see them pitted against Jedi, Stormtroopers, or droids.

[@xlmao]

and you answer yourself there, theres no rythm or reason to it, guess why theres no big movies with forces of nature, theres no drama, no depth of character or plot...

[@vadersgodchild1043]

Yes please more on the Knights of Ren!!

[@robertmurphy229]

I would love to see a video on the Shadow gaurds! ;)

[@barsnacker]

They're very interesting. Thank you for the video,✊

[@donovandelaney3171]

I would like to see a new origin for them.

[@djseggrighfscu1616]

Same

[@darthstemcell]

I like the idea of study and using both sides of the force.

[@danielmcphee2546]

I always liked idea that another darkside order being established from a sith from banes line. Surprised werent more of the, always had few ideas of myself one one existing. Always find legends fascinating.

[@levimoore8347]

I'd like to hear more about the knights of Ren

[@jaxirraywhisper741]

Great video but background music was a little bit too loud and distracting.

[@zellfrainbow]

your link (for the merch) triggers security warnings

[@kingpotato3053]

I’d like to be a member of the night coven on dathomir, I know I’m not female but I just feel like the night sisters are so underrated in the SW community.

[@kbheath76]

Very interesting I need I’m interested to learn more

[@clintfrederici2482]

Please do a video JUST on the Knights of Ren, I feel we got robbed in the movies of any lore on them

[@ahhacophone5290]

Do a video solely on the knights of ren

[@donovandelaney3171]

What if Plagueis could manipulate the Anti-Force?

[@XBANGARANGX]

Not to go off topic but was there ever a lightsaber nunchuck

[@jovanleonardi1574]

what about the singing mountain clan, the clan of witches that the first nightsister came from.

[@ManOfLight24]

I would like a video of the Knights of Ren.

[@dildobaggins2759]

"Youuuu havvvvveee beccoooommmmee a RIIIVAL"!

[@JRM92B]

There is the force, in it's pure form. and then there's its 2 distinct side that we know well. and then there's the many system of beliefs and cultures surrounding it and the force sensitives.

[@Alltarious]

full knights of ren video please

[@09jofern]

Please do that video on the Knights of Ren!!!

[@johnturrentine7577]

Okay. Um…we have the Knights of Ren. Where do the Knights of Stimpy come in? I’d really like to see them.

[@duncanself5111]

14:28 artists rendition of dark-side Luke

[@Ollyatlas]

2:29 so jinsurai are the new bendu?

[@Sifu-Myers]

0:50 sec the guy with a red lightsaber that had 3 blades anyone got the guys name/ type of saber?

[@greg61377]

In the lore and IDK if its cannon or not, but the emperor did let certian groups alone for the most part if they didnt intterfere in the empire. Like the Black Guard the emperor had already infiltrated the group. He secertly didnt destory them because they would collect knowledge and artifact that the emperor was able to get a hold of via his spy network. Guess it pays to have someone else do the heavy lifting.

[@michaelhearson]

Maybe you could do a video on the Zeison Sha, Jel Shay, and the Malatuki next. These are other very awesome and interesting force groups. Especially the Zeison Sha, just a suggestion. Thanks for sharing 👍 😊

[@atibamaule]

It's interesting how many different groups, both light and dark, claims to speak for the force. What if the force could speak for itself for once? Maybe through a possessed medium? It would be funny if the force would school all those followers and told them the are all wrong 😆

[@Charles36.]

Yes wave thank you love the sith

[@johnniehouston1816]

Can you do a video on the knights of Rein?

[@mappingshaman5280]

I think only the nightsisters were somewhat if a danger among these, particularly if mother talzin succeeded in her plan to take the living force from the species that hated the jedi. Mother talzin even without her powers being amplified was a match for windu and palpatine. If she succeeded she would have been the strongest force user in the galaxy.

[@blackshogun272]

She's strong but I'm still certain the wicked Nightsister even Palpatine feared called Gethzerion would crush her.

[@kaptainkoala8476]

The name Darth Millennial did not age well😂

[@isaacunderhill9120]

History & philosophy of the knights of ren plz because it seems so much cooler then just Kylos henchmen

[@prut9261]

Fun fact, the image on the right is the Trinity College Library in Dublin, Ireland which George Lucas based the Jedi library on.

[@dankzooted420]

Knights of Ren video, most definitely yes...

[@adamnorr2265]

The knights of Ren video would be amazing please and thank you

[@justinclarke4763]

Knights of Ren video for sure

[@the3rdjoker]

Honestly I'd love a video on Knight of Ren

[@markeverett9604]

I think I work with Darth Millennial… so whinny… “When do I get my promotion? I’ve worked here two weeks.”

[@garretteckhart8079]

Thank you.

[@valkenx6758]

What is the music?

[@raycavazos8927]

I don't care what faction they are. I just want Togruta, Twi'lek, and Pantoran wives. They can dark side it all they want. IDGAF. Great video btw

[@blackshogun272]

This guy has his priorities straight 😂

[@realJoeMavro]

Hell yeah! I'll go as dark as you want, just gimme my togruta bitches!

[@BrotherRex7567]

What about the Chiss sky-walkers?

[@ericblue5436]

Definitely looking forward to you expounding on the Knights Of Ren, but I do believe that fragments of these orders survived somewhere. LOL @ Darth Millenial!

[@DarkRonnie]

My prefered nightsisters origin story is that they are the decendents of a crashed spaceship of jedi that adapted to the hostile world of dathemir

[@jasondaniel7380]

I'd like to know more about the knights of ren

[@MrJodrick]

Pls do one on the knights of ren

[@robertagu5533]

So since Knights of Ren are a thing apparently. An we saw them kinda in action. Wondering if when Kylo decided to leave them an return to the Jedi if he wiped them out OR are they way bigger then we saw and he merely took out his small splinter of them having been left basically no choice