8 New Combo Possibilities - Season 4 Ryu

[@foberdud7576]

Very well done jimmy, I really like the improvements you’ve made to the visual explanations of the concepts you’re elaborating on.

[@mdz_jimmy]

thanks man, always trying to improve so I'm happy you're noticing improvements :)

[@wildwest1832]

They wont, but bringing back real dps would help some characters like ryu out. Dps now are just not worth it. You need meter and guessing wrong you get wrecked its barely worth using anymore. You go back to sf 4 and people throw out dps all the time which makes constant meaty pressure something to think about. I think it was a bad decision to destroy all invincible reversals to the point they are at now. Not worth using

[@wildwest1832]

I like VT 2 for all matchups now. I dont even bother parrying with it but it inspires fear and lets you get aggressive. That is the main purpose of it, and if some guy spam meaty attacks nonstop its a free punish into super. A lot of people get defensive and passive when you pop it so you can go in and they are scared to hit buttons

[@mdz_jimmy]

how to use VT2 properly, I still don't think that gives you enough value over VT1.

[@aleksanderp.4373]

@MDZ_Jimmy, the simpler way to buffer lk into CA is doing 2xQCF and plinking/pianoing lk&hp (or any punch for that matter), as long as lk comes out first. It works because of the lenient input (delay) for the CA and the speed of lk. Though the punch must come very shortly after lk, so it gets "hidden" in the lk's recovery in case you whiff.

[@mdz_jimmy]

your method works as well but it is slower, which is why the way I showed it in the video is the preferred way to do.

[@cyberathlete]

They say it's half circle forward for the donkey kick (or as I like to call it Thrust Kick as it sounds much better) but doing Quarter Circle forward still does it flawlessly for all versions, LK, MK, HK or EX. I can still combo using quarter circle motion for the Thrust Kick. This is for Season 4 with the latest updates. I am referring to the PC version. Not sure if that matters.

[@mdz_jimmy]

donkey kick is definitely a half circle forward motion now and there are several reasons why you might think it's still quarter circle forward: 1. you somehow didn't update properly: the main menu should say "Ver.04.000" if you properly updated to season 4. 2. SF games have leniency on a lot of inputs so it's possible you're accidentally triggering a sequence of inputs that can be interpreted as a DK by the game, here are ALL patterns that the game looks for: a) ↙⬇↘➡ + K b) ⬅⬇↘➡ + K c) ⬅↙↘➡ + K If you input any of the 3 sequences I showed (even if there are other inputs in between) you will trigger DK. Keep in mind that the tech I showcased at 5:10 in the video ONLY works because the input is NOT quarter circle forward now. The information about the input that I provided is also taken DIRECTLY from the game, so there shouldn't be a mistake on my end.

[@cyberathlete]

@@mdz_jimmy you're right. I enabled input display and checked my inputs. It's a) is what is happening. I don't have to do a full half circle + k for it, as long as I (accidentally even) input diagonal down-back even though I am doing only QCF in my opinion, the diagonal down-back does work to trigger the thrust kick. I thought I was doing QCF only when inputs are being read as diagonal down-back + QCF

[@mdz_jimmy]

@@cyberathlete yeah a lot of motions work like that in SF, shoryuken is another example: SFV expects you to do "➡⬇➡ + P" but all 3 motions have leniency, so you can also trigger a shoryuken by doing "↘⬇↘ + P" which is a very common way to do shoryuken, especially when antiairing because this way you can antiair while being in a crouching position.

[@cyberathlete]

@@mdz_jimmy Man I have one question, I can do the LK Tatsu into Critical Arts from the 2nd player side but I struggle doing the same from the 1P side. I can do it 70% of the time from the 2P side and 10% (takes me 10 tries to pull it off once) of the time from the 1P side. Are there any tips or suggestions you can provide to improve pulling off that combo from the 1P side? It's costing me a lot of lost rounds and matches that I could otherwise convert. I can do CA standing still from 1P side but maybe it's timing, not sure what's happening. Thank you!

[@mdz_jimmy]

@@cyberathlete it's totally normal that you're struggling with certain combos from a certain player side (every player has this issue), so you should definitely practice your weak side frequently in training mode. turn on inputs to see what exactly it is that you're dropping and keep practicing until you get it down, that's really the only thing you can do.

[@BlueRuki]

Just watched your last video when you were rank 2200~. Now I see you're in the 1300's! Nice job getting Master Rank!

[@mdz_jimmy]

thanks man! I'm currently at around 32K points and I'll soon be showing stream highlights from Master rank. only 1 or 2 stream highlights video within season 3 and I'll push those out before the end of this week :)

[@XWinterKnightX]

As always you deliver 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿. Thanks again Jimmy 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@mesharyhd7646]

I do believe you are the next daigo

[@mdz_jimmy]

I'm extremely confused by the amount of upvotes this comment is getting lol

[@mesharyhd7646]

@@mdz_jimmy you should get sponsor as soon as possible

[@mesharyhd7646]

@@mdz_jimmy I have seen diago play and seen you. I confidently say you play much better than him specially when you pressure some players. Diago now is dropping combos hesitating about making a move and always play defensive.

[@mdz_jimmy]

@@mesharyhd7646 thanks for your kind words, but you're a bit too biased here :) you're mostly comparing highlights from ranked to actual tournament performance which is much much more difficult to consistently perform well. there was a time when I was a bit more cocky and thought that these "pro" players weren't actually that good until I've joined a couple of tournaments myself. the perception from tournament footage can be very deceiving ;) I know I play high level SFV but I'm in no way special when it comes to competitive play. My focus this year will be to push content on both twitch and youtube full-time, so you won't see me at a lot of tournaments but I might try to compete at some big tournaments this year like evo.

[@royalflush4789]

@@mdz_jimmy my man...now do those moves vs Smug with random select Problem X Justfog Deadaces and Kenpi

[@babataxi3946]

thanks a lot i reach platinium but now season 4 i m more comfortable with ryu its seem more old school thanks again for your job

[@MozartificeR]

Thank you very much.

[@TheDamienDX]

the new combo possibitles is nice i like it i know not much also to me VT1 and VT2 it depends what suits you me i more with VT1 then other but i am just not a 50-50 guy to that VT2 but it there useful on some grapplers to deal with.

[@theman5614]

nice video and thanks for the v-trigger two info about he standing HP can be cancelled to special moves. The bit about standing low kick cancelled into critical art, think it already existed. I can't remember which video but i rmember someone doing a compilation of justfog's highlight and he did that in an actual match quite a while back.I might be wrong as sometimes i remember things inaccurately but i'm almost certain about this one.

[@mdz_jimmy]

like I said in my video: the LK cancel into CA existed but was accidentally removed when they added the donkey kick initially and now it's back again in season 4.

[@theman5614]

@@mdz_jimmy sorry silly me i was watching the video on mute as my friends was sleeping in the room and i had no earphones. Thanks

[@corywilson5434]

When can we get an official ryu vs jago from killer instinct

[@sneezy7272]

I'm no Ryu main, but I can definitely see why people are debating about the st. hp cancel. I like the change personally and even tho it may not be optimal in combos, it's a good go-to for consistent vt combos when activating on hit

[@mdz_jimmy]

agreed, before season 4 I had a lot of trouble getting used to VT2 combo activations because I instinctively went for a st.hp cancel because of VT1, so it's nice to see that change.

[@sneezy7272]

@@mdz_jimmy Yea lol I know the feeling. I almost lost a game cuz I went for Chun's traditional v skill combo before they changed it. I got used to it tho. Less v-meter gain now, but more damage, so I'm not complaining.

[@votzbr]

About the st. Lk buffer into super, I think doing qcf, qcf, lk, lp is easier than qcf, lk, qcf, lp

[@rodneydrizzy865]

Thankx for that Jimmy!! You're the best!!!!!!!!!

[@SSplifffa]

He said "donkey kick" like a 1000 times....lol

[@mdz_jimmy]

you're 100% right, gotta find a better way to handle this next time 🙃

[@DomAnimeLover]

Like it u thought that Ryu used to say Tatatarabuken on the helicopter kick 🤣

[@whatscreenname]

Did they change this again or am I just doing it all wrong? I can’t combo into L Donkey Kick or Med

[@mdz_jimmy]

what combo in particular do you have trouble with? depending on your skill level it can be very difficult to do st.lk -> L DK.

[@blazin_sky]

Ryu is ridiculously strong in s4. ROFL almost every 2 combos you are stunned

[@mateusfavarin4104]

Jimmy the input change is killing me is there a easier way to do it?

[@mdz_jimmy]

what exactly gives you trouble? I mostly do DK like this: ↙⬇↘➡+K

[@mateusfavarin4104]

@@mdz_jimmy the down back input is hard for me for some reason lol

[@josephhuffman2757]

Ryu seems better all the time but when I play against Guiles and Rashids it still feels like I can't do anything due to their seemingly effortless pressure. I don't know what could really be done to help with that but it would be really nice if VT1 got rid of fireballs and srks depleting the timer so fast and maybe allow for faster charge times so you could more often get those sweet guard breaks. I never seem to get those but I'm not an awesome player so maybe it's just me.

[@singaporestrayan6384]

Joseph Huffman You could look through Jimmy's channel for guard break setups to help you set up situations where there's a high chance of guard break.

[@mdz_jimmy]

I feel like ryu's VT1 is fine overall, it gets depleted quickly and it's certainly not one of the strongest VT's in the game but it always gives you value and I like the fact that Ryu isn't a character with a robbery VT. guard breaks are mostly used in setups where you can guarantee them, I made a video on that topic in case you haven't seen it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWXakIKcjNJqnbc

[@jesusconcristo]

Great video. Please talk about Kage. Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭

[@mdz_jimmy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZXKgnVpZtyhaZo greetings from germany :)

[@MozartificeR]

I would like the Axe kick to be put back the way it was in SF2. You can block high with first contact, and need to block low with the second. If you block high with second, you get hit. If you block low, then it forces a block, so that the kick cannot be counted with low punch. Also, the low uppercut has been nerfed since SF2. I am not happy. Ryu is the transfer character from SF2, he is the closest to either ken or Ryu from that game. The low uppercut is the most important move in SF2, by a country mile. So to have it nerfed is such a violation, and must in my opinion be put back the way it was. I am not advocating changing the medium, or high. In SF2 if your pressed right on to the opponent, so that if you move he moves, then the uppercut would contact twice, once low, and another high. Also it would throw you back, and put you out of range of some moves, if not executed instantly. In short it would give you some space, and that space protects you from some moves. Making it the safest uppercut of the three. Another thing, the low uppercut would contact from a further distance, this also I am not happy about. I believe that SF2 might have been so popular, that they need to nerf it, so that players do use other characters other thank ken and Ryu in SF3, 4 and 5. And I understand that. But now the game has people using other characters more, so they need to change it back. I am not happy about it at all. I understand no one plays SF2 anymore, but I'm transferring from 2 to 5.

[@RSX789]

Jimmy ✌️

[@LockeLeon]

I loved playing SFIV Ryu, but this SFV version I just can´t. Don´t know exactly why.

[@mdz_jimmy]

I got started with SFIV and Ryu, but I really think SFV Ryu is way more fun to use.

[@LockeLeon]

@@mdz_jimmy Really? I might give it a chance then. Anyways I main Vega, so any change is climbing in the tier list :P

[@damiens1998]

sf4 roo is slow and gross, sf3 Ryu forever!!!!!

[@fightingforce8498]

that's true. I think ryu good in sf4 but never good in sf5....

[@kirbyc9042]

I hope cr mk gets buff to oblivion. I want it OP as fuck so people would rather jump than deal with it

[@JSHADEGAMES]

We already know

[@jessaparoch4130]

Ryu 2018= spartan

[@jetlimao5523]

Nice video. Regards from Brazil.

[@royalflush4789]

Your vids are amazing bruh keep them coming and please do some with Sakura

[@MozartificeR]

Jimmy Jazzz

[@thebrohters1318]

Kennst du Dervis

[@mdz_jimmy]

nö :)

[@thebrohters1318]

Ey Krass Ich dachte Du Kannst nur Englisch Können wir Miteinander Spielen Ich bin auch Gut Mit Ryu

[@mdz_jimmy]

@@thebrohters1318 nee ich bin eigentlich deutscher, halte den stream aber auf englisch :) komm hoch genug ins ranking, dann kanns passieren dass wir zufällig mal gegeneinander gematched werden vom system. sets gegen viewer mache ich nur gegen twitch subscriber & 10$ unterstützer bei patreon. ich werd nächste woche samstag auf diesen turnier in stuttgart sein: smash.gg/tournament/stuttgart-city-brawl-tekken-7-street-fighter-v wenn du zufällig in der nähe wohnst oder spontan noch anreisen kannst, dann können wir gerne auf dem turnier einfach so zocken :)

[@thebrohters1318]

@@mdz_jimmy Ich habe Nur PES4 Kannst du mich dann Mal in Einem Neuen Viedo Grüßen Und Ich Spiele mit Controller

[@mdz_jimmy]

@@thebrohters1318 warum zur hölle schaust du dir meine SFV videos an, wenn du das game nichtmal besitzt lol

[@uknowdmal807]

I made the post that got so heated. In vt1 when you do st hp to fb you waste v guage but in vt2 you dont. Same thing for st hp to ex fb into ex DP. Are you saying that is not a good tool for VT2 in place of VT1? True, you don't get the added damage but you get more potential combos which leads to more overall damage in vt2. Are you saying you dont use that at all and prefer other combos instead of that?

[@rickkilcher7577]

Yeh but in VT1 you can use nornal DP and it will combo (at least in the corner). St hp > fb > dp won't combo in VT 2

[@uknowdmal807]

@@rickkilcher7577 yes but ex fb will and without the added v guage drainage.

[@rickkilcher7577]

I understand, my point is more that VT1 you get the juggle point without using EX meter, so VT1 is quite useful (if you also include the other set ups as well). In terms of damage, if you get a clean jump in the corner fully loaded, with VT1 you cam2 get a 500ish damange combo. Not sure with vt2.

[@uknowdmal807]

@@rickkilcher7577 but after you do your combo in VT1, your gauge is out. So if you do it and fail to connect you just wasted it. That was the point I tried to make on his last video.

[@rickkilcher7577]

Yeh, it's a trade. You either use ex meter or v gage depending on what you want or how you play. Not saying that it was you, but when he mentions that someone said that the st hp cancelling for vt2 makes vt1 obsolete it's just a bit far fetched, whoever said that. But I see your point totally.

[@JordanICM]

I think It's just hard to be top tier without a robbery v-trigger or some oppressive aspect to your game. But maybe Ryu is upper mid now. I don't know.

[@rodpalmer5275]

Well don Jimmy

[@MattPark75]

Ryu is still not above mid tier I think. Way too many bad matchups and weak neutral game but at least now he's a bit more fun, he can zone a bit better, sometimes he reminds me of the old school ryu... Sometimes... Ok, rarely 😂 (buffer light donkey in c. Lp xx ca confirmable, it seems to hit consistently. The range is of course shorter than st. Lk but it turned out to be quite useful so far!)

[@Potts2700]

Wahhh y'all get to complain about shyt and get it fixed. Back in my day. You get to use known useless moves to work for you. Like in third strike. Useless moves are bait for attacks. Open up opponents to attack! Love Savage Godlike yea ya ya ha ha :D

[@siddharthyadav2627]

Ryu still lacks 50-50 set ups, normals r shorter and v triggers r either short or risk taking. Ken n especially akuma both have range n better vts. Any good ken or akuma player wud beat ryu 80% of the time.

[@ponchuffyxxx]

Not sure about the kens tho, akuma he def beats ryu, but you can fight him

[@Random-yq1wu]

Ryu great again or Ryu still bad... again?

[@mdz_jimmy]

debatable, I think he does better against a lot of characters but he still can't win against quite a few characters which is bad for tournaments.

[@danlorett2184]

He's a good character in a busted game. SFV is all about low risk pressure and mixups and Ryu doesn't do very well with either.

[@thebrohters1318]

Habe Net Verstanden

[@MrGhoulster]

LOL. VT1 obsolete? What the hell is that guy smoking?

[@CrowBag]

MrGhoulster 🤨

[@arautomestre]

Show! Foda! Valeu.

[@ghulamalikatto1577]

Ryu is still not that good

[@ikaruga24]

I disagree, Ryu is more than good now. I played against a smurf Ryu yesterday that simply had his parries on point and destroyed me with his insane punish potential that Ryu has. I know that parries are risky but that is a trait of Ryu that you have to get adequete at anyway. If you play Ryu and don't rely on your parries then you are playing the wrong character. He is not top tier material but he can hold his own now.

[@Ratchet25]

You got beat by a better player not just parries. Ryu is still very hard work. He can't just throw things out like the rest of the cast and win. He's slightly better, but he's not tournament viable yet. There is still no reason or advantage to pick Ryu over anyone else. Prove me wrong.

[@singaporestrayan6384]

The only thing I found useful for Ryu so far is that you can use LK donkey kick instead of EX hadoken after st.lk on crouching opponents.

[@ikaruga24]

@@Ratchet25 The fact that i got beat by a better player while using parries proves he is good enough. Also this is a new season and we will see how it plays out. Remember Infiltration with Juri when everyone said she was a lost cause? Yeah... And don't even tell me the excuse "but that is one person who has won with her" because i can tell you the same for all characters that have won tournanmets. It was done by one person per character so no i don't buy it.

[@Ratchet25]

Ok... That's a really bad argument on you're end. You didn't even reply to what I asked so I'll ask again. Why would you switch to Ryu over anyone else? What advantages does Ryu have over the rest of the cast without having to work twice as hard, and if you say parries or good control I'm symbolically slapping you in the face with a white glove.