8 PASSENGERS EXPOSED BY THEIR DAUGHTER...

[@caitrin6914]

I’m predicting that in the coming years we will see so much more of these children of family channels coming out about how traumatic it was

[@TimeQuxxn]

I hope there are lawsuit to protect future children from such an exploitative practice

[@Vampress09]

@@TimeQuxxn True! Just like there are rules for film industry there should be rules for youtube too cuz it's not some homegrown hobby anymore.

[@decadeofmcfly]

Yup. Its the child actor generation all over again.

[@bluebeesmarple]

i always think about this

[@Samnatural]

Fr bc these kids are becoming 18 so their going to start exposing

[@poison4303]

Ruby not allowing her kids to use the “nice” bathroom is so weird… Parents are allowed to have private spaces but telling your kids they need to behave for a week in order to “earn the privilege” of shitting in that bathroom once…. She treats normal things like privileges and it’s honestly sad to see

[@Mels0103]

It's SO weird

[@Killer_KT]

That's a thing with them?! Bruh, we (my siblings and I) weren't allowed to use the 'nice' bathroom when we were kids, it was reserved for guests and our parents were the exception. I didnt get it then, I don't get it now 🤷‍♀️

[@genevievekelly4998]

Her own kids were used on social media to make money on KZbin to buy the house and bathroom

[@be.A.b]

It’s going to take years, and lots of work, for the kids to deprogram all that anxiety caused by ruby’s fear-based child programming.

[@SarahSova]

Control for the sake of control… it’s sad

[@Mels0103]

Parents who think things like BEDS are a privilege make me so mad.

[@annakoerbitz]

same. my dad threatened to take away me and my siblings beds just because my friend did something bad and he blamed it on us, not her.

[@jadesgay444]

in my family it was a privilege to even have a room. and even then my room didnt even have a door

[@id3389]

@@jadesgay444 I completely get that, but if you have a free bedroom or bathroom in your house, why not give your kids the comfort of using them? holding that above their heads is abusive behaviour.

[@wiljatransjo1629]

Right? It's like a thing in the children's convention. Kids have rights in society and kind of a lot of them

[@salemantoinette8701]

My parents took away my bed frame (not mattress) and replaced my bedroom door with a thick curtain because I wouldn't stop sneaking out but they laid the punishment out very clear, it was 7 days after I stop sneaking out I'll get them back. They were clear, and didn't string me along. Sure it was a little cruel but I had my blankets, pillows and comfy mattress! I leaned my lesson and stopped sneaking out but like sleeping without a bed in general

[@TheYellowDart.]

None of that “discipline” is parenting; it’s straight up abuse.

[@Bebe-vd3up]

And it have it broadcasted on a popular KZbin channel :( I feel awful for these kids ❤

[@TheAtomicSpoon]

I have southern military christian parents with discipline and strict rules, this shit is just insane. Thankfully they've relaxed a bit over the years.

[@honestlynotsponsored]

A really important part of this is that they aren't just Christian fundamentalists, they're LDS Mormon. I grew up Mormon, and there are two major things to note: 1) LDS Mormon communities are very close knit, which means that everyone is very much in each other's business. And 2) family is literally one of the major staples of the belief system. I'm not just talking "family values", but that family is core to a healthy relationship with God. To have a child who has separated publically from the church AND public problems within the marriage? That would undoubtedly be a huge topic of gossip within the church and incredibly embarrassing to the parents. ESPECIALLY if the father is faculty at BYU, which is a prestigious university that follows Mormon rules. It's literally named after the second "prophet" of the Mormon church. Basically, its one of the absolute worst communities to have an extremely public family fallout in.

[@VamiGwen500]

Oh wow

[@Killer_KT]

Massive oof, there's a good reason to give family some slack, being so overbearing and rigid can usually set up cracks in the foundation showing up in the longterm..

[@honestlynotsponsored]

@@Killer_KT I personally disagree. There are many people who are Mormon and non-abusive. We should give them the same energy that we would give anyone else.

[@Killer_KT]

@@honestlynotsponsored eh? I didn’t say anything about mormons :o

[@charmander466]

Mormons are still a sect of Christianity, and a big part of the Christian fundamentalism. You don't start a cult like warren Jeff, and say God and Jesus told you to get all these brides, then claim you're not connected to fundamentalism.

[@fourever2ne1]

I absolutely HATE when adults call children (especially very young children) manipulative.They’re not manipulative,they’re learning boundaries and how to properly ask for things they want.A four year old saying that they really like something is not them manipulating you,it’s them sharing something they like with you and maybe hoping they’ll get it. I’ve literally had to put two family members in their place for calling my niece (who is on the spectrum,so she does like sharing things she enjoys) manipulative

[@zebraloverbridget]

Can you go back in time and be my mom? My dad did the same crap to me even when he was causing me to have panic attacks. He tried the same shit when I visited last year (at 23) and I finally realized just how abusive he has and always will be. At the time I just sat there and acted like I was listening to what all he was saying given that I was stuck there and he has made it extremely clear that what I have to say doesn't matter at all. A conversation to him is him just talking at and yelling at me even though I'm now an adult. Try to explain anything? thats just an excuse. Want to have a say in anything? that is talking back. Try and tell him that what he is doing is actively causing you pain or making you uncomfortable? doesn't matter just get over it. There is more but I'll stop before I get mad about it lol. Props to you for not only being a good parent but also for putting your family in their place. The worst thing you can do is to dismiss a kid who is just trying to talk about what they enjoy since it just teaches them not to ever talk about stuff they like in the future (which is hard to fix later on once you're an adult)

[@scarlett8782]

right, young kids don't really have that capacity - adults that think that way are self centered beyond belief. a child is not acting a certain way to change *your feelings* - it isnt about you. theyre just being honest.

[@fourever2ne1]

@@zebraloverbridget (sorry I’m so late) if I could I would,I’m not much older than you tbh (I was 27 last year).I went through the same thing when I was a child by both my “aunt”(I can’t hardly call her that) and my dad and my grandma.It was always either “being manipulative”,bargaining (along the lines of “if you do this,then you can have that.”),or I was “being a mooch”.I’m sorry if you feel like you’re being manipulated by a small child or that they’re “mooching” off of you,then should reevaluate yourself. I’m ver very protective of the people I love,so it’s very easy for me to jump to their defense if someone is being ugly or talking ugly about them

[@fourever2ne1]

@@scarlett8782 exactly!or if you feel like they are then explain to them why they can’t have or do whatever it is that they want or want to do.Kids need explanations to learn(because they do learn in time what behaviors and actions can get them fun things or things that they want.)

[@sarahhamman7070]

As someone who's parent 100% used fear over respect, I can easily say it leaves some very deep emotional scars and actually stunts your ability to grow up emotionally and mentally. When I left the home at 20, I still had the mind of a 14 year old. When you're forced to grow up in survival mode, it's it's not possible to develop and grow normally, especially when punishments are constantly disproportional to your actions . Plus I resent my father so much that I don't think I'll ever speak to him again. It's a terrible parenting tactic all round.

[@whitchu-3907]

Thank you for sharing this, it really helped me put some things into my perspective

[@scheherazade2291]

I just want to remind people that even if the dad is seeming reasonable now because he didn’t join the cult, he still agreed with and made parenting decisions with Ruby. Some people are putting all of those decisions on Ruby, such as taking away the bed and sending their son to the camp, but that was something that they did together.

[@NormaJean951]

Men always catch a huge break when it comes to these things.

[@kaiaswrld]

Also if you’ve ever watched any videos of the dad (Kevin I think his name is?) you will know he’s JUST as crazy and abusive as Ruby is.

[@andrewharmony]

I just imagine Supernanny watching one of their videos, shutting her laptop, and saying, "you guys are in a crisis. I'm on my way"

[@damianm2896]

My mom did the same thing about treating basic needs as privileges. I remember when I was around 9 or so and told her I didn't like her cooking. She didn't feed me for two days until I "liked it"?!?! Insanity. Yeah we don't talk anymore. Feel so bad for these kids

[@NormaJean951]

I’m sure that was awesome for your mom to hear. You both sound awful.

[@lovegabija3005]

God I’m so sorry :(

[@sofiamaya346]

@@NormaJean951 he was nine? and was starved for 2 days? at age nine? how is he awful?

[@morganspourskoller63]

@@NormaJean951 9 year old saying something they know nothing deep about vs an adult deliberately starving their own small child.. mmmmmm..

[@hoepatrol3361]

@@NormaJean951wats wrong with u? he's allowed to not like her cooking. For all we know her cooking could be atrocious or just simple not to his taste yet he's supposed to put up with it simply because it's his mother's cooking. Not to mention he was 9 yrs old

[@pinkthepanther1294]

Even people in prison get beds and food. That's a human right.

[@madhouse9705]

My stepmother was the wicked stereotype- woke you up at 5:30 in the morning to scrub down the whole house cause the dishwasher wasn't loaded correctly (happened), isolated and humiliated and shamed for your opinions (happened), grounded you for struggling in school because of mental health (happened)- BUT- I was grounded for a week and my birthday fell in the middle and she ungrounded me for it. You shouldn't take once a year celebrations from kids because you feel entitled to.

[@zebraloverbridget]

Making sure to occasionally do "good" things for your kid is a way to avoid abuse accusations, and gives the person a reason to deny bad treatment. "How can you call me mean when I just gave you x thing you wanted" It also creates doubt in the kid's mind since if their parent was that bad and didn't love them then why would they bother to give them a gift. It is really messed up overall. I bet your step mom held a large public birthday party for you too so she could look good to everyone else

[@VCannDreams]

As a Christian who reads ever bible weekly, goes to church, youth groups, and is very involved in growing i her faith, these people are disgusting. what does “living in the truth” even mean. God and Jesus is all about love. Jesus loved everyone, and hung out with imperfect people, this “living in the truth” thing is something that i feel like Jesus would be very sad to see people who say they love him disrespect and hate the people who he made. Don’t get me wrong prayer is wonderful, but sometimes we need outside help for things like depression, anxiety, and adhd (which i have), to say u only need to pray about it and not get any help if it’s bad enough is naïve. as a Christian definitely pray AND get the help you need.

[@mochabearry]

I love your mindset.

[@Blahblahblah2022]

Agreed

[@sunnydaygina]

I'm a Christian as well. I disagree with the parents almost 100%. They are doing everything for money at the childrens expense. If they were true Christians ( Mom and Dad) they wouldn't be exposing their children and their privacy on the internet for all to see. They would be talking to their children and praying...but not for the world to watch and cringe. This behavior makes Christians look bad and that saddens me. Shame on you PARENTS.... of 8. Earn your money without exposing your children!!!!

[@fool4343]

its nice to know that not every christian uses their religion to be a terrible person

[@someidiot420]

God gave us the smarts to develop modern medicine and things like therapy and medication

[@justingraves8649]

They claim, "depression is a choice" 🤦🏼‍♂

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

Me omh iam so stupid .. i just have to say its just in my Imagination and iam well again..Idiots

[@summersmells]

there's no way the parents don't enjoy punishing their kids this severely. How could you be so cruel and exclusionary to your own children? either they get a kick out of it or they truly don't see their kids as people. Truly horrific.

[@summersmells]

i'd bet money on the mom being a bully in school and she never got over the power she could have over other people.

[@summersmells]

sorry about the triple comment but genuinely the little girl with adhd being told she's manipulative and being made the scape goat is going to have such a hard time unlearning that and rebuilding her self esteem :(

[@natalieerose4115]

Right?! they have to be insane or just cruel. It would break my heart to see these things happen to my kids, let alone being the perpetrator. What vile human beings.

[@zebraloverbridget]

@@summersmells I was that same kid years ago. To this day I still cannot properly show emotion on my face except in rare cases and I also ended up with basically stunted emotions. In highschool it was to the point where I was so apathetic it was almost bad enough to be a personality disorder. Self esteem is easy to fix in comparison to being told that your emotions are manipulative. It is to the point where I don't know if I'll ever be able to have and express emotion like everyone else. At the very least, I have no issues straight up telling people my emotions where needed but the fact that I have to verbally tell people can cause issues. Mostly just when people assume I'm pissed and react poorly and refuse to listen to me. (I'm almost never actually mad)

[@madisonm2167]

I’m 3 minutes in and those parents belong in prison wtf,, letting your growing child who is FIVE go without food, taking beds away as punishment wtf??? Jail jail jail

[@shamblingabby]

It legit makes me want to cry thinking of what these kids are dealing with. Coming from an abusive household, it stays with you for the rest of your life, even while you try to heal.

[@bugsells7588]

the fact that they’re mormon unfortunately explains most of this. emotional/mental abuse is extremely normalized in the mormon church and even physically abuse is brushed aside at times :/

[@kimberlyg1597]

This type of behavior is NOT normal behavior within the Mormon Church. I am a member and would never treat me kids this way. This is abusive parenting.

[@Literally_Kyle]

@@kimberlyg1597 mhm

[@Justkuzzi]

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[@sierrafarnum9689]

I grew up evangelical and this is exactly how the families in our community were.

[@kristinwiebold2433]

Where does it say that this family is Mormon?? Just because the dad might work at means crap. And the way their parenting and the things their doing is so far from what lds family's do. LDS families love their children they make sure their kids get the physical and mental care they mean. They dont send their kids to these strange camps or withhold the basic needs from their children. I have health problems and parents, siblings relatives have never never discarded me or treated me like these horrible parents are treating theirs. I dont get why Kevin if he is a good person or any of the relatives are trying to rescue those poor children from. Their abusive parents. The mom and that permanently ban therapist are probably enabling each other. Dout thins has anything to do with the lds church

[@jamiedee2409]

"You shouldn't accept your kids for who they are" - Uff. Some people just shouldn't have kids. Their "parenting" is outrageous. I am so happy that this family gets finally exposed by one of their own. The way the parents treat their so called children... This has nothing to do with family for me. Those poor kids. I hope when they grow up they cut their ties and are able to heal from this. Also, you look gorgeous, girlie. That autumn glow is coming through 🍂💕

[@Kaastengels]

God i hope no other children would hear something like that from their parents

[@poutinedream5066]

I made a legitimate comment. Then a couple minutes later, I really started noticing how beautiful she is. I know it's off-subject, and even to a certain degree, offensive to veer off from a very real subject in order to criticize or congratulate a woman on how she looks, and I generally don't do it. As a woman, I am all too aware of how difficult it is to be valued beyond how I look... BUT my girl is KILLIN' IT! 🤣 So yeah, I was glad to see you broach the subject, so I can agree with you 😏

[@charlottebunt280]

The older brother actually got sent to that teen camp as a result of him getting in trouble at school (suspension or expulsion or something like that). Nevertheless, it is still a pretty harsh punishment. He lost his bed for six months as a result of pranking his little brother, which we can all agree is pretty insane. Weird family.

[@DiMagnolia]

My ex was sent to a similar school for a minor legal infraction and it did so much damage, those camps are pure abuse. I’ve seen people who send kids to these schools for the smallest offenses, even just for talking back to their parents, it’s insane. I’m an ex Mormon from Utah and it’s a huge industry there.

[@robynnatasha]

I am a teacher and I teach young children in the UK, if one of my children came in with no lunch and then the parents gave me that response that would be, firstly ignored and food provided and then an immediate call to the head who would most likely Children's Services or some other agency who could step in to deal with neglect. Forgetting lunch is one thing but saying your child is not allowed lunch as a punishment is the worst parenting method I have ever heard and I hear some interesting ones at my job!

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

Kindergardenteacher from Germany .. its an alarming signal

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

Especially if its not a first time

[@katiebugg311]

Unfortunately theyre so overwhelmed here that sometimes DCFS or CPS (it differs by state what they're called) doesn't even come when teachers call 30+ times. It's absolutely only

[@Natnat994]

I'm current watching Sins of the Mother about Lori Vallow (Mormon extremist nutjob who allowed her children to be killed by her Mormon extremist nutjob husband) and it's really scaring me how Ruby seems to be getting more involved in extremist beliefs. Hoping for the best for Ruby's younger kids.

[@madelinelajoie9127]

She gives me those same vibes!!!

[@TheNerdsRok]

Her brother forsure killed the kids not chad but true

[@Kenzi24]

The part about Eve being "manipulative" instead of needing more love and attention and possibly having a mental health issue really gets me because it reminds me of me. I was never diagnosed as adhd, but it was SO obvious and I was always made to feel like a failure and a burden instead of getting help and tools I needed. My mom was a lot like ruby. She kicked my brother out when he was 15 or 16 for being "disrespectful". He was a struggling teenager. He was the Sherri of the family and hasn't talked to my mom for over 10 years now. For the first few years(I was 13) I hated him for not talking to her and thought he was a jerk, until I got into my 20s and realized people are supposed to be kind to you, especially your mom. And I don't talk to her much now either

[@charlottebunt280]

It SHOCKS me that Ruby and Kevin might be separated. I feel like a few years ago Ruby would've said that was never a possibility. She seems to be going down a road that's unhealthy.

[@crescentartdesigns]

They split

[@Killer_KT]

This is what happens when don't embrace communication and transparency between each other, I'm being assumptive* but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case considering their rigid and overbearing relationship with their children not to mention how common that is within that sort of community

[@crescentartdesigns]

@@Killer_KT cause she had Jodi living with her inside the house after Chad and Kevin moved out of the house living away, marriage and family fell apart cause of the woman's behaviour of gaslighting, berating, and meanness has caused her to be ostracized from the families.

[@Killer_KT]

@@crescentartdesigns you’re absolutely right, I forgot about her for a bit but she’s been a terrible counselor and not just with this family… I’m amazed she’s still in practice 🤦‍♀️

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[@InvadrFae]

Isnt Sherri the one that Ruby was upset was going to college because then Ruby wouldn't have control over her anymore? Like I know those words left Ruby's mouth, I just don't know which kid they were directed to.

[@Indigo565]

Yes

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[@Chronicroc]

I'm currently trying to get out of a toxic religious environment with my family and it is so extremely difficult. Once I'm able to get things worked out, I'm going to be shunned by most of my family and friends, and I won't be able to speak to my younger sister any more. That said, it's so impressive and encouraging to see Shari get out of that sort of situation and make it out the other side with support and a good attitude. It's also really nice that she's gone against her upbringing to be a more supportive and loving person. Overcoming the hatred and fear of people not in "the truth" (which is also the term the religion I was raised in uses) is so difficult mentally, and I think it's fantastic that she was willing to put that work in. I'm sure her example will help her younger siblings as well.

[@Killer_KT]

My heart goes out to you, a lot of people underestimate or just don't how much it takes to move out from such an environment. For what it's worth, I wish you and your loved ones (and any you find in the future as well) the best

[@pinkgorilla99]

@Magdaline Mackenzie I think I know what you are talking about. You don’t have to verify but sounds like JW. You have a hard road ahead of you BUT there are great KZbinrs that have channels on how to leave and have a great community for support. You are going to need this. Because they encourage (demand) even your closest friends and family shun you. Check out JT & Lady Cee, Mark Martin and Lloyd Evans. Best wishes to you on your journey. There’s a lot of info on this but depending on your situation it may be better to fade away slowly and avoid the actual DFing. You will be in my prayers 🙏🏻💕☺️

[@Chronicroc]

@@Killer_KT Thank you so much. This genuinely made me tear up a little bit 😭

[@Chronicroc]

@@pinkgorilla99 Thank you so much. And yes you are right on the nose lol. I've already told my family that I would like to leave, but it's a matter of convincing them i'm not insane at this point. I'm trying to build my little community, and I was fortunate to have made and kept some good friends when I was in school. Again, thank you for taking the time to reach out and offer your encouragement. It really means so much to me, and hopefully I'll be out one way or another soon :)

[@pinkgorilla99]

@@Chronicroc my heart goes out to you. There are some good EX JW channels that help with ways to talk to your family and things to point out the corruption in the Society. Child SA is a major problem in JW that they are disgustingly covering up. But also there are ways to “fade” so you just quietly leave and avoid being DF. Depending on your age and situation. Another great channel is JW Thoughts. His name is Wally and he is lovable and so smart. (Not at all how the GB portrays Apostates) Please take care of yourself while going through this. As freeing as it is, you may still have depression and guilt because that’s what cults do best. Hope to see you on the other channels I mentioned. Best wishes and love ❤️

[@SjofnBM1989]

We've all been saying for YEARS that once these kids from family channels become adults they're gunna start spilling the tea and here we are.

[@hound1059]

Good god this family is so sad. I’ve watched this unfold and the parents are just so awful to their kids. Starving them, sending them to camps, not to mention the indoctrination.. it’s really telling when your own family separates from you. There was also a Reddit post a while ago from the perspective of a kid in one of these families.. I wonder if it was Shari. I’m glad she’s out of there.

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[@TripletStudio]

What’s also so insane with Ruby is there is no room for mistakes! Like who hasn’t as an adult forgotten lunch, we have money to purchase one, a 5 year doesnt

[@lilnikki3233]

There is such a thing as psychological torture and although I believe physical punishment is taking place in the house, psychological abuse is in some ways much worse. Even if the children are provided a new house, food and clothes does not mean unfit parenting is taking place. I hope someone is able to intervene for the children soon.

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[@trashxraccoon03]

bed, food, a roof over your head, education (and love) are not privileges, they are basic necessities ... the child has not chosen to be born, you created them, you put them into this world, suck it up and don't be a piece of shit. It's not that hard.

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[@coquigirl0789]

So one year, I did something right before Christmas, and my mom had to punish me (don’t really remember what happened). I was able to open my presents but I wasn’t able to play with them until the next day. I think that’s the perfect way to handle punishment during holidays.

[@_laurenolo_]

Angelika consistently serving looks but are we even surprised at this point 💕

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[@nancyflynn4755]

Angelika really be hitting all of that new new tea

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[@kellyspeyer5292]

In regards to using Christmas and birthdays as a punishment - I think that parents considering taking gifts or holiday related events away should ask themselves how they would be punishing their kid if it wasn't the same time of year as that holiday/occasion. And then go that route

[@Luke-fu5co]

Idgaf about allegedly, denying your children autonomy, a bed and FOOD?? Nah that is 100% abuse and those kids should be removed from that household and taken to a safe place

[@healingandhappy9262]

CPS should have been called for the lunch thing! That's abuse

[@TempestBound]

the fact that this family is mormon makes SO much sense, actually. for some reason i never knew this even when they got attention a while ago, but it makes everything make more sense to me - i’m not exmormon myself, but i’m exjw (ex jehovah’s witness), and the two communities like to joke we’re each other’s cult ‘cousins’ since our cults have so much in common. and one of the things jws believe, and mormons believe, is that children are essentially possessions at the bottom of the ladder, ‘even’ under women, and that their parents should have total and utter control over their lives. devil’s advocate but not every single jw family i knew growing up was this extreme, but most of them were. i wasn’t allowed to close my bedroom door EVER. i wasn’t allowed to spend my own money without permission. i wasn’t allowed to leave the house without permission (even as an adult). i wasn’t allowed to see my friends without permission. i was hit as a child. i’ve seen kids beaten with belts. i’m a survivor of parental csa, which is rampant in these groups. i’m currently being stalked by my own parents since i moved out of their house and out of their power. these people are not the extreme exceptions of families in these groups - they are how they are supposed to work.

[@claraprado5401]

It's insane to me that she expected her 5/6 yo daughter to pack her own lunch to school. I have 5 yo little sisters and they are NOT near the age where they have the mental capacity to consistently remember to do that or even how. I'm not saying don't teach your kids independence but idk maybe do it WITH her a couple of times before she expects this kid to actually remember?

[@gwillypdawg]

She is running her house like a prison camp

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[@crescentartdesigns]

It's confirmed Ruby is now shunned by Shari, Chad, Kevin and other family relatives for gaslighting, disgracing her children online, and being rude to people and KZbin creators by threatening them according to Sloan Brooks and others. The family and her marriage broke down cause she hangs with the false person Jodi

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[@patscald4]

I feel like in many non-white cultures its pretty normal for children to continue to live with their parents after turning 18. I dont think its entirely accurate to say that that stunts your growth.

[@bipbopcherryontop6256]

Exactly. And it works very well for many

[@iamfreddieful]

Hi Angelika, I always love your videos ♥️ just wanted to mention - ADD is a matter of being neurodivergent, not mental health

[@issecret1]

🙄

[@beautyaffirmations1147]

I used to watch 8 passengers every morning when I was in high school. I used to envy how perfect their family seemed when my family was far from that. It's sad to see this all coming about and reminds me of the Lori Vallow case. I hope those kids are safe.

[@cuteladeeful]

I found them in my 20s. when this first started coming out about the family, it was just a trickle. I actually defended them. Now I realise how wrong I was to do that.

[@natalieerose4115]

I went to one of those “teen recovery programs” for “bad kids” when i was young. One of my close friends there also passed away at that facility bc of neglect. They are horrible, exploitative places that are rampant with abuse and ethics violations.

[@sierrafarnum9689]

Any person running those places should be thrown in prison.

[@VCannDreams]

i think there are many ways to raise ur kids and how ever u wanna raise ur kids, go ahead do it, that being said, bullying ur kids is never something anyone should do. and why would u want to

[@Mels0103]

Can't wait for the other exploited children of these KZbin family channels to do this.

[@Dana-kj9qo]

Your blush + lip color combo 😍

[@Justkuzzi]

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[@soulcstudios]

My parents canceled mine and mine twin's birthday when we were turning 11 or so. It was right when you are switching from 'invite everyone in the class' to 'invite a few people'. We were both uninvited an upcoming party and many other people didn't invite us to their birthday parties. So we never had another traditional childhood birthday party again.

[@kimchiiiki]

Ah yes :) I was "evil" and "maniupative" at 8 too. My mom said she had to basically "tough love" it out of me. Yeah now we probably will never be as close as we would of if she didn't do that. That kids gonna grow up being hyper independent, confused, and not know the warning signs of abusive people because they think it's normal :/

[@skyefirenails]

Listen, I'm sure there are great conservative parents, but where I live in Texas, I've never met a conservative parent who didn't abuse their children to some degree. It's disgusting.

[@Bo-iu7dc]

Yeah, I agree. Conservatism ideology just sets people up to abuse and to be abused because of how they view hierarchies and personhood. They tend to be very authoritarian and now in US they want to push those views on to everyone.

[@lifewcatie]

completely unrelated but i'm obsessed with this lip/ blush combo 😍😍😍 makes me miss your makeup content ...

[@Chelseabee55]

Slight correction - BYU is not just Christian but specifically Mormon. All students and staff have to live a Mormon church approved lifestyle or they can get kicked out/fired.

[@kaylahaas]

ah yes, living in “the truth” there is nothing more truthful than your gay kid hiding being gay 💕✨

[@herhotgrandpaa]

Having 2 siblings and growing up in a house where my parents are also very religious and conservative and seeing them try to explain vs punishing for no reason really makes me see how none of this has anything to do with being religious or conservative. This is just abuse for the sake of it.

[@liarodriguez9119]

I've never felt so much hate for people I don't personally know, its just disgusting when children are being hurt

[@thatsnotverycashmoneyofyou]

“I’ll see you…now” 😂 man I thought I was high

[@LunaWitcherArt]

God it boils my blood to see people treating their progeny like this. These people have kids just so they can abuse someone without anybody batting an eye (in their mind, cuz we are here batting several eyes) and they villainize literal kids. It's absurd.

[@Samantha-wr3cr]

Angelika slaying that makeup look

[@hannahsevers328]

I always love your take on things this is why it’s my fav drama channel

[@poutinedream5066]

I just cannot relate. When my daughter was 5, I learned that someone was stealing stuff out of her lunchbox. Every day, by the time she went to have her lunch, items were missing. For the rest of the year, I packed 2 of everything. Apparently, the kid got the message, because they didn't like, take all the cookies, or both drinks-they took one, left one, of everything. I never knew who the secret lunch kid was. I like to think that one period of kindness will stay with them- that someone cared. Kids have enough struggles. They don't need to be taught that. They do need to learn how someone showing some empathy feels, and maybe they will display some themselves. Otherwise, they can end up stunted and abusive, like this sorry excuse for a mother.

[@caseymarie625]

This is devastating because there are so many fucking family vloggers and now there’s gonna be a new generation of child stars/ influencers who were never given a choice

[@haleydarko2989]

This kind of parenting never works for the child or the parent. You cannot control your kids to this extent and expect them to adjust to the "real world" smoothly. And your kids are going to resent you when they get older. Why would you want to ruin your relationship with your kids like this?

[@vy__huynh]

Seems like punishing her kids is more important than their actual health + growth (sleep, food, etc.)

[@missstargazer9174]

I wonder if ruby’s actually going through a severe mental health problem and someone’s taking advantage of this and is making her believe the things she says are true rather than face her own problems

[@frankbailey7460]

That Christmas will be brought up at every one of their Thanksgiving dinners forever

[@Justkuzzi]

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[@ratk0zm0z]

I really like how thorough your videos are :)

[@claraprado5401]

Food, shelter, a comfortable bed and clothes are all basic necessities, not giving them to children is literal neglect. People like this shouldn't have kids, it makes me so fucking mad.

[@ajraven5145]

The fact KZbin allows such kid-centric "family" channels to be monetised makes no sense to me.

[@AJ-mc6ro]

Pretty sure that the daughter moving out wasn’t her choice. Ruby has talked about how her kids can’t live with her after they turn 18.

[@Maddieslist]

I'm a full-fledged adult. I still vividly remember one Christmas where I didn't receive any gifts while my ex-stepmother allowed me to pull out gifts for every single one of my other siblings and handing it to them while I tried to show that it didn't affect me and show happiness for my other siblings while telling myself that it's not about the gifts, it's about family. It still hurts. I don't want to go there, but unless you have an external reason (i.e. financial hardship, your beliefs don't align with gift giving at that time, etc.) all things that you can talk to your child(ren) about beforehand, it's an emotional abuse tactic used to exercise control. All of these "parenting tactics" are borderline if not outright abuse used to exercise control. I've experienced almost all of these things prior to moving in with my mom and I'm still working through the aftermath of it all, years later. I can tell you from firsthand experience, this is emotional abuse. God forbid family courts actually care about the children, though. 🙄 My heart goes out for these children and I hope they all know that there are better days ahead. Also, if Sherri is in the headspace to do so, help her younger siblings, if they want it when they come of age, help them to have a safe space and to eventually help each other to be better than what they were taught and find their own "truth."

[@Bluessoulphoenix]

"I'll see you...now." could be a good funny intro 😆

[@caesuracrossing5473]

I agree if you have the economic means to move out definitely do so. It really does stunt your mental growth because parents have a hard time understanding that you need to flourish as an adult.

[@lauryntonio]

ANGELIKA!!!! your make up is so beautiful!!!!!!! i opened the video and was STUNNED

[@cailinanne]

The whole thing with the brother prank- the little brother is possibly going to feel like HE punished his brother. That’s a whole other thing. 😢 Als it sounds like this Jody lady is a baby cult leader. She’s isolating Ruby and using her for money FOR SURE. It’s scary. She seems dangerous.

[@itsestefi]

I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE… TURN IT UP!!!!

[@clairestcyr8475]

I was raised in the religion that 8 Passengers is currently in, and it's genuinely terrible. This is how the church encourages parents to raise their children, I had a similar experience growing up :(

[@jewel4_467]

i hope that the kids are able to heal and grow their own healthy sense of identity apart from their parents because it truly feels like their parents did everything they could to force them to feel like they could not be their own person

[@grimtheghastly8878]

8 passengers is what happens when people who hate kids are allowed to have kids 🤢

[@Febstah613]

I dont want kids but take away their bed?????? I'm not that cruel...... if I had a kid the bed would always be there.....

[@Lisa5hamer]

One thing though I’m pretty sure that it wasn’t like Shari had a choice in moving out cause I’m pretty sure ruby had said that as soon as her children turn 18 they are no longer allowed to live in the house. So I’m happy that she was able to leave cause it’s not like she would get any help from them.

[@BlueZephor]

Angelika is always pretty. But man she's gorgeous in this one. Great video.

[@royandescartes]

trash got arrested for child abuse today.

[@jessiejames1641]

I had a student that had learning difficulties (after assessment for both behavioural and cognitive difficulties he was transferred to a specialist school and he has thrived since). Despite knowing that her son had issues, and he often was unable to organise his day-to-day needs - she demanded that if he forgot to make and pack his lunch, that we were not to feed them. Unfortunately the school went with it. The end result was other students sharing their lunch with him. It made me so angry. We have pre-made sandwiches for students that needed it. The specialist school wouldn’t have let that fly though.

[@Ater_Draco]

Really? Was that in the UK, because that should have led to the school making a Child Safeguarding referral

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

Wtf is wrong with that school.. report them for it please.. gosh

[@jessiejames1641]

@@Ater_Draco it was in Australia, it was disgraceful. I often kept some snacks in my office that I would give him. It should have been something that was followed up by some specialist as this is something that would have to be mandatory reporting. The principal didn’t give a shit and our jobs were threatened if we were caught giving us food

[@jessiejames1641]

@@Sonnenanbeterin1991 I did as much as I could. At the time, with mandatory reporting we would inform someone in a leadership position. It was a small school, the principal did nothing. I followed up with the union because I wasn’t sure where to go from there. There were some change for a month or so, then it went back to what it was life before. There is a system now for reporting incidents at school in a fashion that forces changes to be made.

[@Ater_Draco]

@@jessiejames1641 that poor child, and how dreadful for you too.

[@PrinceDuCiel7]

My brother was treated as the Trouble Maker as a kid because of his adhd. It just gave him the Biggest antisocial I hate humanity chip in his shoulder. He’s actually a very sensitive and smart guy, so it’s even more tragic that even in his 40’s he’s unhappy and in a lot of ways, hates himself. Terrible parenting!

[@silent_amy]

In my opinion, when these family channels get more popular and hence make more money, that's when the problems start. I'm thinking Shaytards, 8 passengers, tannerites, etc

[@samanthascarcella526]

KZbinr Psychology in Seattle has stated that as a relationship and family therapist, it is NEVER his job to tell a couple if they should break up or stay together. That decision should always be the couple’s to make alone.

[@jennifervasquez]

What really upsets me is that presumably nothing was done in regards to calling out the clear abuse after the lunch situation idk maybe the teachers did actually report it as theyre legally required to do n it just led nowhere but even if that was the case its sad that all those kids have had to endure so much abuse bc the systems in place that are supposed to stop these situations in their tracks are incompetent imo after that situation ideally there shouldve been a formal visit from a social worker who wouldve seen all the other forms of abuse happening n either worked w them to stop it or if it was already really bad by that point to then relocate the kids to live with other family until they can be safely reunited w their parents if its possible at all

[@ashergarcia3076]

she’s using being an adult/parent as an excuse to dismiss abusive behavior. It’s very sad her kids will always think that’s what parental love looks like.

[@calilott275]

Ive lived 3 blocks east of BYU my whole life and let me tell ya Utah Mormons are a whole different kind of Mormon. They only just recently started to allow caffinated drinks to be sold on campus.

[@luciabaran8346]

When angelika mentioned taking away Halloween I was like wait…😀 bc my mom literally did that to me 😭

[@jordanhanly540]

People like this always baffle me, like were they not children and teens themselves. Have they no empathy, they can't view their children as people and only see them as possessions.

[@disneyprincessintraining2725]

I am a member of this church. I fully condemn what this family has done and their misuse of the religion to instill fear. I’m just glad one kid is out of there. I would hope that if their leaders see the videos they can talk to the parents and set them straight, maybe even call CPS. I believe in redemption, but there’s needs to be a lot of apologies and they need to fix what they did to their children. All I can do is be better, and raise our kids with love, respect, and unconditional love.

[@kristinwiebold2433]

If a family was doing this, I truly think CPS should come in at take the kids away and parents be on you cant have more kids born or adopted or fostered.

[@NotKeli]

You look so pretty literally love your eyeshadow 💞

[@Justkuzzi]

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[@ssprit9464]

love your makeup recently 😍

[@AngelikaOles]

thank you 💗

[@anamazar8622]

WHY ARE THEY FAMOUS FOR THIS?

[@frankbailey7460]

Because internet

[@hajar7421]

ur hairrr is so pretty here

[@Samnatural]

Also the son and one of the older daughters have said they don’t have any friends bc the mom takes their phone so they can’t talk to them and they said it embarrassing to have their life on internet and the other kids would make fun of them it honestly so sad on how these parents are ruining their child’s life

[@bluelittle7299]

The mom joined a cult and has been charged with child abuse and neglect. Soo much crazy things have gone down with that family, please do an update!

[@comeonyall7549]

I really do love your channel but I haven't been watching cause I cant keep up even with CC: ) I am not slow or low with IQ, i think it's just difference in parts of the world, my brain, after 50+ yrs, is on same track and I can't change gears that fast. I hate it cause I want to follow and listen to every word cause I think you are awesome. Even with CC I have to pause for a sec and get caught up. Still love you Angelika.