88Rising Abandoned Us

[@hlogs23]

Straight facts. Instead of sticking with their OG group they introducing all these kpop artists who all kind of sound the same. Miss the old mid summer madness phase foreal

[@auliamate]

kpop y has so many different groups and acts doing so many different things (from rap to pop to rock n roll), it's almost like it's an INDUSTRY within itself, and therefore already has massive companies that can promote kpop (regardless of if the artist's nationality and/or ethnicity is korean or not) acts globally ON THEIR OWN its almost like 88rising was not created for primarily kpop because kpop already can do what 88r does ON ITS OWN BECAUSE IT IS AN INDUSTRY 😭. as a kpop fan, can 88rising go back to its roots, not saying 88rising cant do kpop, but it really shouldnt be tryna focus on kpop listeners

[@r6guy]

There's a reason for it. Kpop like artists are more popular in Asia and sadly that's where the money is to be made for Asian artists, in Asia. Asian Americans do not support their own unless they get approval to do so by non Asians because they are too afraid to get clowned on by the non Asians.

[@riss5554]

😅​@@auliamate

[@jonathany10]

If you want to be real, all these Asian/Asian American artists sound the same as each other too lol, cookie cutter hiphop/rnb that push and appeal to socal/bay area/nyc Asian stereotypes. At least a jpop group like Atarashi Gakkou is trying to be different from anything else.

[@Lostmusicvideos]

they just following the money

[@bangsuha_]

you know how phenomenal was it when rich brian and niki got popular? indonesia went insane. it's very VERY rarely that indonesian gets a stage presence on the international platform. i am a really big fan of 88rising, they inspired me to start making music on my own. the idea of asians being together like brother and sisters doing music together is enough for me to be a fan of.

[@raviolibirb8009]

Fr. Rich brian and niki's songs are absolute banger. I never get tired of them no matter how much the radio station playing them over and over

[@greyfells2829]

That was the problem. "Asian" is a European concept, Asian people don't universally have that much in common. 88Rising should included more or focused on less, they chose the worst possible middle ground.

[@sensitiffly]

this was it. it actually felt like there was a real effort to unite asian americans on a cultural level, and not just "asian" in the american sense of east asia, but asians from all across the continent that the west lumped together. somewhere along the way, they lost sight of that

[@FRorONGODmoment]

Who the fuck is rich brian? Thats RichChigga

[@flvckoVLONE]

Even as a black dude I agree. 88rising was lit then they just felt like they fell off the map….. Atarashii Gakko go crazy tho

[@NinjaFresh]

I think the their new music is really good. Interesting beats and lyrics. Their older stuff is kinda mid but whatever.

[@_desibees1876]

their growth is pretty insane, hope 88 doesn't disappoint

[@hectordiazrodriguez7294]

​@@NinjaFreshthere is always a contrariam

[@checkoutlo407]

You being black adds nothing to this statement I hope you don’t move forward believing that you stance as a black person speaks for all black people. Thank you

[@flvckoVLONE]

@@NinjaFresh I guess by fell off the map I meant my radar. They’re probably still lit now considering they have new artist and interest. Their brand has taken a different direction. It happens to all successful companies. That was a bad explanation on my part. Either way it goes they have atarashii gakko and I like their music so i can give them some slack

[@tylerblair318]

I knew 88rising was cooked the minute they couldn't get Rina Sawayama to sign. Insane fumble.

[@Torrent-empress]

Rina would've been way happier at 88 too it would've been a huge got. She hates her current label

[@bleepbloop1963]

I don't even think they fumbled, from what I gather she's kinda trapped under a label that doesn't value her as they should. Peep what she said about Matt Healy last year. I feel she would've been doing more with 88 if she was allowed. Sad because she truly is a genius.

[@GreenGretel]

Rina Sawayama's pop feels so timeless. Still listen to _RINA_ and _SAWAYAMA_ all the time, plus her great standalone singles. Didn't love _Hold The Girl_ quite as much, but it still had some standout tracks.

[@dthomas4566]

.... what realm are you in that this was on your radar, no cap that's the most niche shit I have ever heard, 😮😢

[@luiscedeno7856]

wtf i didnt even know this could've been a possibility. i feel her being added to the label would've given it more legitimacy as well

[@grixonyt]

Idk why but 88 had this genuine feeling it disappeared.

[@GameManCZ2000]

It was a bridge to connect all asian artists with US artists. We got Ski Mask, X, Playboi carti working with artists like Keith Ape, Rich Brian etc. Now the bridge is gone and I dont even care what they do

[@ballsackboi505]

Bridge, *burned.*

[@morningstarrss]

Frfr

[@xedrick99016]

@@GameManCZ2000 and ski bots all his likes and plays hes ass now just look at that montreality review

[@WhizPill]

Damn what a shame

[@Scopatone]

Atarashii Gakko is one of those bands that I don't even care if they sound bad or not, their vibe and energy goes crazy

[@MonkeyHero]

Theyre also artists. Like for real artists. They create everything themselves. They've even done comedy videos and abstract performance pieces. They're way more real than the 90 millionth kid who thinks they're a rapper

[@undeadalph]

yeah they're incredible, definitely A or S tier for me

[@nazukah2861]

They are genuinely one of the wildest artists live they have so much energy during their live preformances its insane

[@golden_raisins]

Theyre absolute icons and have cultivated such a great fanbase

[@MidnightNostalgiaPod]

The fact that they ignored August 08 even when he released music under the label is disgusting to me.

[@boredguy5805]

They never ignored him, his music just never popped off. If anything they pushed him really hard with the second compliation album.

[@drrnvevo]

rip august man

[@MidnightNostalgiaPod]

@@drrnvevo oh damn I didn't know he died.

[@otisjoi]

​@@drrnvevoi cant believe i found out he died from this comment oh my god

[@gnomerome3765]

@@drrnvevowait who?

[@ArmandoRSX]

As I get older and older I just keep realizing just how golden that 2015-2019 time period was and makes me miss it even more.

[@midis_touch]

88 was def supposed to be what Lyrical Lemonade is today

[@seya_2]

Asian Lyrical Lemonade

[@nubius]

thank you! so I'm not the only one thinking that.

[@simadenwala6762]

Lyrical Yuzu

[@VQ_DROSE]

⁠@@seya_2they’re not even the same thing. One is a media company the other is a guy who directs music videos.

[@seya_2]

@@VQ_DROSE Okay? What do you want me to do about that?

[@DPara8]

For those who don’t know… Kohh, (the last Japanese rapper on “It G Ma”) goes by Yuki Chiba now. He was featured on Meg Thee Stallion’s mamushi song. Yes, that’s him!

[@rryncubus]

OMGGGG

[@theavotrack3025]

+ Team Tomodachi, the remakes are everywheres lmao

[@FRNCHZ]

Wow! 😮

[@kuiper3500]

he's also on frank ocean "Nikes" vinyl version

[@Nicotine183]

Kohh's era better 🥺

[@aarovision.]

They did the Shang-Chi movie soundtrack too and right after that I never heard from them again

[@1Shawol416]

Right? I was so happy for them and then- nothing.

[@Violet_Erin]

Yeah what happened after this?

[@lucapeyrefitte6899]

Like the whole thing? Now I have to listen it again since I’ve only heard it through movie

[@WhizPill]

Damn

[@DWangaroo]

@@aarovision. Check out 1999 write the future, it's literally 88rising, they dropped a whole album earlier this year. It's another collab album between a bunch of 88rising artists, but my guess is they listed it under a different group name as some sort of concept art thing.

[@Brooska]

If anyone deserves recognition in that label it’s DumbFoundDead. He’s been doing music for so long. And has released some genuinely great mixtapes over the years.

[@jamirvillarosa7924]

He's one hell of a battle mc

[@emdotrod]

Harambe still hits hard today

[@IAmLeMonke]

Real ones remember White Boy Wasted

[@xiaria]

honestly he's been in my top 5 artists of all time now for like a decade, that man could have so much if they just fucking marketed him like he deserves

[@ConcurrentSoap]

They abandoned him and did him dirty

[@latecore_]

Asians were UP when 88rising popped off

[@lami2279]

Maybe like 3 countries

[@callumblakeney7935]

​@@lami2279 me when I don't know geography

[@donutrangerr]

@@lami2279 fukumean, whole SEA was celebrating

[@chainsawteddybear]

Now they’re down, like getting kn0cked tf out to the ground in SF & NY Lmaooo

[@nhandahooker]

Still up baby 😂

[@psycl0n3]

not asian or american but honestly was disappointed by how 88rising stopped pushing cool new Artists. especially since their artists actually achieved insane levels of success but it never translated in pushing the next generation.

[@_xiosa]

A lot of the Asian American community wanted to attend HITC but I rarely hear anyone speak about it anymore. At the beginning 88 worked more like a collective group. That’s when 88 was the most interesting IMO. Now they’re an actual label and more focused on promoting their signed artist than doing collaborations with lesser known Asian and Asian American artists. They used to put on a bunch of people in the early years.

[@pascalnguyen6322]

They used Asian American likeness to push full Asian content. It eez what it eez man

[@shinodamasaru7945]

I miss August 08 and HITC OG gangs. Midsummer madness was the best Collab ever.

[@realdreamerschangetheworld7470]

Nobody will see this, but something people *aren’t* talking about were the cultural videos. The cooking videos, the tea preparations, and the accompanying bite-sized history lessons here and there were amazing. The production was always top tier and it was sad when they moved away from this.

[@An_Abstract_Anomaly]

Real ones know rich brian was once name richigga...

[@bboykman]

Cringe

[@faedrenn]

Real

[@Clayst]

What about the one week where he was just Brian

[@drwho9319]

Now he does reggaetton and goes by rich papi

[@burtbot3000]

REAL ones know him as heelyriddler

[@ohwhatsarcasm]

Forgot Atarashii Gakko was part of 88rising, honestly they're such their own thing it never even crosses my mind.

[@ohlove0]

The error was that they trough that if they collab with k-pop artist the k-pop western fans will eventually start to listening to their music, when in reality those fans are a completely different audience

[@EndTikTokandTwitter]

If it weren’t for the awful behavior of mentally ill western k-pop fans, k-pop would be a lot more popular and accepted in the US. But that’s what the blue haired people do they become toxic Twitter “stans” and gatekeep it so that it becomes a niche thing

[@drizzy6302]

Exactly thats why no one cares 88rising anymore i will die before listening to kpop adn anything related its mad cringe even tho im asian fk kpop

[@aerith119]

Yeah, they're more attracted to visual than the music

[@kaiser98berlin]

The direction all went astray when kpop came in. I knew they lost traction when it did cause totally different approach to cultural consumerism. 88's midsummer madness shone real well how they brought themselves premium and their ethos of carrying more than songs and more than a movement. It's not visual and romance emotions instead of a higher order similar to what JCole is to HipHop and rapping today. Higher brothers made real bars and gave Chinese a sense of pride in their work in 88 then they all went to chase a different fan base that has nothing to do with their ethos and vision.

[@sabrinasuccs]

i was a joji fan since day 1, so when he joined 88rising i was IN bro. i will forever miss HITC and the summer vibes it had. it was so classic i loved it, now 88 is just flooded with the same kpop artists that really dont need 88 anyways.

[@sharosudo]

Same ❤

[@Gaminggamer45]

Honestly I really fucked with Phum viphurit around 2018 when he was with 88. Saw him in concert a few times. Super chill guy.

[@jeundelcarmen3933]

He is a frequent collaborator and he’s great, but he isn’t part of the label

[@047Kenny]

I didn’t even know he was part of 88 dudes got some bops

[@daylite34]

I need more Phum music so goddamn bad

[@kpcook305]

​@@daylite34well aren't you lucky

[@stoneyyogi]

@@daylite34recent album is really good!

[@DWangaroo]

Damn y'all have got to check out 1999 Write the Future, it's literally an 88Rising collab album that came out this year (2024) that just didn't get listed as 88Rising drop (because I think they're going for a different concept with this album). That said it features Rick Ross, Ghostface Killa, Busta Rhymes, BADBADNOTGOOD, De La Soul, and Offset to name the more immediately recognizable artists (imo).

[@lan._.]

Sad that this got no love, this is one of the best things 88rising has put out IMO. Insanely relistenable album and the extra singles are pretty solid too.

[@sharosudo]

​@@lan._. I'll have to check it out. I had no idea it even existed.

[@manashieldmedia]

Rick Ross on it means its trash

[@jeundelcarmen3933]

Although it is an 88rising collab album, I wouldn't be quick to use it to defend the label since it rarely includes its own label members. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it only includes Rich Brian, Warren Hue, (not counting Dumbfoundead since he's only on the interlude), Milli, and I believe one more who wasn't part of the original label. Masiwei probably doesn't count anymore since he releases under his own label AFGK. While I do like the album, it is not an 88Rising album like HITC1 and HITC2.

[@DWangaroo]

@@jeundelcarmen3933 That's fair, I hadn't really dug into which 88Rising Artists were actually part of the project, but, you're right, I just looked it up and it's pretty much just the ones you mention. And you're totally right it's not like HITC, but I'm fine with that, I think it being different was a cool change of pace. The main reason I bring up this album isn't to compare it directly to HITC type projects, but more just to bring attention to the fact that 88Rising still releases interesting stuff that isn't just "hopping on the K-Pop bandwagon" like the sentiment in a lot of the comments section as well as being mentioned in the video. This album is a massive collab with multiple American artists making music that isn't driven by cheesy stereotypes. But yeah, it would've been sick to feature even more of the label's big artists like Joji, NIKI, or Higher Brothers.

[@durxg]

I love how he barely mentioned Joji throughout this whole video lmao

[@hectordiazrodriguez7294]

Because joji is now not part with that label, and maybe when he flew the label, was a signal of the decadence of 88rising

[@Moon_Child_Mari]

As someone who watched George when he was Filthy Frank, and then listened to him as Joji, I feel like he doesn’t really warrant an introduction. He has enough fame that speaks for itself. And like someone said before, he’s no longer with them.

[@jonathany10]

@@hectordiazrodriguez7294 Pretty sure he's still with them, they're still handling his performances and album merch. He's just not very active outside of the occasional performance and plummcorp releases.

[@arsenaltg1]

@@hectordiazrodriguez7294Joji is still part of 88Rising, the leaving 88Rising thing was only ever a rumor

[@1openborder]

Completely unfounded rumor

[@user-yh7ix2ow1p]

Even if 88 rising wants to ride that hallyu wave they should introduce artists like bibi, leellamarz, changmo, justhis, groovyroom, who are incredibly talented and would do so much more with the western exposure. Atarashi gakkou is very good too.

[@auliamate]

88rising trying to pander to kpop listeners is so stupid because the entire reason 88rising was successful was because it was focusing on more than just kpop. Kpop frankly does not need any help breaking into the west, as we can see with global kpop groups like VCHA and KATSEYE. the kpop ents can handle their own, 88rising can you please pay attention to ASIAN artists and not just kpop artists, especially ones who you do not even represent??? 😭 also what is with the BIBI SLANDER??? show some respect for the queen of krnb 😭 (song recs: the weekend (both the original AND the remix with Milli), literally every song on bibi vengeance). but also im not asian so maybe my opinion is irrelvant (im black 🤷) EDIT: oh also subscribed bro, W youtube algorithm video pull

[@xfreja]

bibi supremacy, she has better songs than the ones you listed fr

[@tksovers]

@@xfrejakazino, restless, motospeed 24, umm.. life, piri the dog all go so hard

[@SeraphicPhantasm]

Don't call singers queens

[@ciaolecrack4968]

@@SeraphicPhantasmCall them by monarchy then

[@deki5616]

Bibi songs are actually great i don't why this chinglingling acts like bibi is from another planet 😂

[@leaf973]

THANK YOUUU I WAS WAITING FOR A VIDEO LIKE THIS. YOU LITERALLY COVERED EVERYTHING I FELT IN THIS VIDEO ESSAY

[@eiighta5094]

I specifically remember an 88rising interview where Sean was like “We’re not exploiting rap, this is our craft”. Fast-forward to today, seeing how they basically pivoted to k-pop/ international collabs really just tells me that rap/ black culture was really just a stepping stone for them, which is hella suspect.

[@CurlyoFries]

Watch em pivot to exploiting another genre like Rock or somethin (whatever is most profitable fr). I do think 88 Rising had so much more soul, back when they were a collective of artists dropping music across all different kinds of genres, under the name of 88 Rising. These days they feel like a shell of their former selves.

[@sensitiffly]

noticed this as well, i believe there was a genuine spirit of appreciation in the beginning, at least with the artists not necessarily sean. they had some real talents with rap and rnb. but the pivot to kpop 100% was the least genuine and most money-grabbing move they could have made, considering the valid criticisms that already exist with kpop appropriating black culture

[@golden_raisins]

Especially after they posted the yellow square lol

[@JamesMISC]

@@golden_raisins the yellow square shit was when I knew for SURE they were a joke.

[@8a_a_ron]

BIBI in the Shadow realm is crazyyy

[@takecareyoself5379]

The moment RM mentioning Midsummer Madness, the moment 88rising changed their preferable audiences

[@Min-t5m8c]

When did he do that? RM from bts you mean?

[@takecareyoself5379]

@@Min-t5m8c yes, I guess it was years ago

[@maramachachki1966]

fr, like don't get me wrong, I love kpop. but when 88 started to add some kpop artist on their roaster I was like naaahh this is not what I'm looking for bro 💀

[@ShamrockShakee]

I miss higher brothers so bad. I was a huge 88 rising fan at their peak, and it felt like they were on a serious run. Also, this video is really well done great job.

[@TheMrMelodramatic]

88 and HITC is ass now lol... BIBI in shadowrealm and Atarashi Gakko in D tier is crazyyy

[@Radicalguy99]

been waiting to see someone talk about this for a minute now. from 2017-2019, a lot of the music i listened to was from artists under or affiliated with 88rising. first ever gig in doing concert photography for an artist was when the higher brothers did their journey to the west NA tour. it’s sad to see how they’ve distanced themselves from the roots in order to boost mainstream appeal.

[@KuyaQuatro]

wow, right when i also wondered where 88rising went, this pops up. great coverage and amazing editing/writing. subscribed!

[@_vmks_]

88 rising from 17' to '20 was golden, used to listen and watch almost everything they put out, and then they kinda banished? It was weird how everyone was so fond over head in the clouds and midsummer madness, just to from outta nowhere change to kpop lol

[@ispankgrannys69]

Exactly !!

[@joserijalkasyasyaf9723]

Yep, almost all 88 rising audience literally dislike or unaware of kpop flow. Its like throwing your original feeling for being a cheap knockoff of hallyu

[@RednasYo]

i used to follow 88 rising quite a bit but haven't heard a thing about them in so long until this, maybe it proves your point even more either way, banger video S+ tier

[@JCAssasin619]

I remember when I started listening to Asian Rappers almost 12 years ago, and getting hype about 88Rising after it first started, it's depressing to me how they were one of, if not the only beacon of appreciation for Asian Artists in the West, and they kinda pushed aside a big portion of the audience they originally targeted and ushered in at first.. Tragic honestly, here's to hoping they either have a comeback to their roots arc, or another label forms and takes up the mantel.. 🙏

[@trapadvisor]

“Only beacon of Asian artists in the west” nah man there’s k-pop and j-pop too. Also there are some people who go out of their way to experience and learn about the culture of others, we’ll always be here no matter how popular culture shifts.

[@reyabeja3321]

Because sadly, money outweighs everything in this world. No one cares about art if it flops, but let there be generic trash that makes revenue, now the art becomes the new "trash"

[@zhenyucai8688]

​@@trapadvisorKpop fell off too. And Jpop isn't as strong as Japan's rock era.

[@trapadvisor]

@@zhenyucai8688 bro k-pop is MASSIVE. I dont think that will change for a while

[@cruzgomes5660]

​@@zhenyucai8688 idk if I'd say K-Pop fell off, but it doesn't feel like it has the same hype as it did in the later 2010s/early 2020s Blackpink and BTS all deciding to pursue solo careers for the time being probably didn't help the momentum

[@KendegohLucavi]

88Rising was batting 1000 during the SoundCloud era. Joji going hard, Rich Brian going hard, Keith Ape collabing with every underground trap artist ever, Higher brothers somehow going hard with an English speaking audience, my friend actually recognized Niki in a Japanese restaurant in Atlanta. Better times. Also you're funny af and I'm subscribing

[@poelogan]

“ima play one second of it” *actually only plays a single second* subscribed

[@FredTheSpider]

It's the fact that it wasn't even related to what he is describing is hilarious

[@PROFY_]

crazy production quality on this video, criminally underrated

[@velkorez2822]

Absolute algorythmic god pull of a video here. damn really liked it, editing is cool, the jokes hit, overall an A tier video

[@flawlesseleven]

Niki is such a talented songwriter and she has grown so much from when she first started making music. Highly recommend her new album “buzz” and her last album “Nicole”

[@notjohnwayne2960]

i was also thinking about how 88rising just kinda disappeared after rich brian and joji, good bideo.

[@LovingCandyXOxo]

OMGGG thank u for making this vid. I literally was thinking of this recently after seeing NIKI live. I loved 88rising in 2018/2019. i miss them

[@boredguy5805]

I mean technically they're still doing fine, at the end of the day all their main artists just got older and did want to be in a forced collective anymore and started doing their own thing. Joji and Niki are both massive now, and their HITC festival has become very successful. Only thing I never understood was why Rich Brian never put out another album but I guess that's on him.

[@obarich]

Rich Brians whole discography is valid though 🎉

[@shanevlogs9674]

Joji left the label

[@CurlyoFries]

@@shanevlogs9674nah fr? I hope he continues to put out music

[@boredguy5805]

@shanevlogs9674 He didn't, his last release was under 88rising

[@BuzzingGoober]

Lol they aren't massive

[@hasan7275]

you hit me with some real nostalgia with that list of names in the beginning bro

[@karmajaystar13]

The Atarashi disrespect smh

[@youngrootv]

Yeah fr. I don’t even really like KPop or JPop or anything like that but Atarashii Gakko goes CRAZY.

[@xblowsmokex]

@@smolidrop some names for us homeboy 😘

[@edwardcreed4921]

​@@smoliPeak mentions. Kinda mainstream but I would add Eve

[@Scopatone]

@@smoli I mean that's the beauty of music. It's subjective. Being "the best" doesn't really mean anything. Not many bands match the vibe, energy, and aesthetic of Atarashii Gakko and that's a huge reason for their popularity. Personally, I'd rather listen to Wednesday Campanella than anyone on that list, except maybe Kana Boon who will never escape being "one of the Naruto bands" in my mind.

[@NuclearWintr]

@@smoli Kana Boon is mainstream af.

[@gcbeats]

Hit the nail on the head with this one. R&B All Night changed my life when I produced it for KnowKnow. It wasn’t long after that I was speaking to him and he just said they were back in China doing their own thing. That said it all to be honest. Double happiness days are long gone.

[@somemorewords9714]

Even as a mexican, its always a fun time when Asians get their time in the spot light

[@mystiquedealer916]

Love the new direction that Ryan's World is taking

[@TinePizza]

The Rich Brian lyrical lemonade Vid in 2017 woulda changed everything

[@catpokerlicense]

Dude literally

[@RemakePondation]

What's the lore? I Miss it. I can't find brian vid in lyrical lemonade's channel

[@regulus69]

@@RemakePondationit doesn’t exist, that’s what they were saying

[@NPCTheGame]

Peace from Taiwan via East Oakland Jimmy. I am going have to review this video on my channel. This brought back some good memories for this 46 year old Blaxican. The nostalgia is strong with this one Padawa...

[@MinecraftRick]

Still copehoping that Joji will pull a Frank Ocean on them

[@erboch7124]

A Filthy Frank Ocean

[@MissJenniJinx]

I been a huge joji fan but ngl his most recent album is just as bland as the rest of what 88 puts out now

[@timelessmoments]

@@MissJenniJinxi have faith in him

[@RinandStyx]

I’m Hispanic so 88rising never touched me personally, but it felt like a cultural shift. I had never heard of Chinese rap before higher brothers released nomadic.

[@RinandStyx]

Also i fw Atarashii Gakko, anyone know what his friend said she didn’t like about them?

[@Wolf-px9jx]

I like this style of content, keep doing you and what you feel is good

[@penguiin12]

ok man you are 100% right about all this really disappointed with how 88rising turned out... speaking of summer anthems tho peach jam was p good for a while

[@GEN]

You’ll blow up keep at it g, great vid

[@sumanthmoole]

such a well made video. i often couldn't put into words the way the label changed at the 'risk' of sounding like a lame ass gatekeeper or 'it was cooler when it was smaller' kinda dork, but this was super well written and edited!

[@nappa0582]

Atarashii goes hard, whatever man.

[@akirakurusu4309]

oh yeah, it's a group that can't even change clothes

[@soloscape3]

​@@akirakurusu4309maybe cause their whole concept is related to school years 😱

[@teddynihon]

The "Oh my chopstick I'm yellow" bar 😭😭😭😭😭

[@Ruben-yn8rf]

i’m glad you made this i was just watching their old stuff not too long ago

[@Slyfa13]

Need that maplestory tier list

[@CSPRfilms]

On God

[@bongoseakhoa5092]

Black South African here 88 rising was awesome loved the music especially since I was coming from my Joji phase. Niki had such a great sound ❤ Rich Brian was unique they were all up🔥 sad it fizzled out

[@MasterBepis]

Atarashii Gakko is pretty good ig

[@dairbarely6353]

Pretty good is an understatement

[@MasterBepis]

@@dairbarely6353 duh they're amazeballs lol. Bro smacked them as OK. Blasphemy.

[@MonkeyHero]

This dork literally doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@tired-musubi]

the super smash bros melee intro music while ur breakin down the 88rising starting lineup had me dying laughing

[@CatfishBradley]

If you think Rich Brian's "the sailor" has any skips on it, you're crazy. It's one of the most underrated albums of the past 5 years IMO

[@flipperful]

🤨

[@jalenr9096]

HARD AGREE. Like to this day it's one of my favorite albums OAT and I listen to mostly mainstream hip hop and rap if I'm being honest.

[@graveyardcharm]

YUHP. absolutely FANTASTIC album, not a single skipable moment on it.

[@timelessmoments]

for real

[@marcelhidalgo1076]

I watched this video yesterday. Your mention of OG Maco made me go down a rabbit hole. I learned about his flesh eating disease and how he was in the hospital for a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Sad to hear this morning that he's passed.

[@NOISECOREMafiaTV]

Higher Brothers please come back 😭

[@gadogneiss]

88 laid down a path for others to follow. Big respect

[@LellowYorry]

This video format is wicked, you’re onto something

[@userwhom]

Man I loved 88 rising so much, so glad someone is finally talking about this downfall );

[@cloverring]

Atarashi’s stage presence is mad wild unlike anything I’ve seen. They’re the only ones in that whole lineup that can get anyone to vibe when they go live.

[@crondor64]

I remember getting 88rising vids/songs on my YT browse page all the time back in the day. It really did seem like they just disappeared after the pandemic. Great vid man very informative and entertaining!

[@PLNKYELLOWBLACK]

I didn’t even know dumbfounded was in 88rising. He’ll forever be one of the top Battle Rappers of all time dude is an underground legend

[@erk8520]

His battle rap days were goated. Dude always had me laughing and saying "mmmmmm" at the same time 😂.

[@Sonto]

I felt like I had no one to talk about this with and then I came across this video. Thanks for validating my internalized thoughts on the whole rise and fall of 88rising

[@StoneyD]

I still bump It G Ma to this day

[@TheBowlNoodleSoup]

Bro instant sub. All the jokes hit for me 😂

[@nougatpersonal]

i'm sick of the artists that has no identity but to promote stereotypes because for whatever reasons asian people can't find belonging with other races without making fun of ourselves

[@rachelkohwoonsim7445]

the only kevin nguyen review i trust thank you

[@xero0015]

I did notice slowly over time they were leaving their original vision and going towards a more K-pop mainstream chasing direction, It's like they wanted to be death row for Asians early on and now they're just trying to be big hit

[@DefCatofficial]

Let's go man, been following you since your first music upload. I was there for every step of 88 rising it's sad

[@Stevegcomedy11]

I like the tier list. as someone who heard of 88^ but didn't even know what it was, this was helpful. The American Asian community & hiphop community is still culturally ways away. Even for Latinos, representation/making waves in hiphop is just passble, above mid at best. cool video tho.

[@kirkle_8]

I've been looking for trapanese for weeks, I couldn't remember the song but I had remembered the stupidity, thank you so much.

[@samuelcasucci2930]

not mentioning ISOKNOCK on current roster is crazy, they're absolutely killing it right now

[@keyregs5509]

was vibing with the video but that maplestory reference at the end got my sub

[@zedrickgarcia1573]

Putting Atarashii Gakko in D tier is insane 💀💀💀💀💀 that better be D as in "DA GOATS"

[@Spitty95]

This is a dope breakdown, comedy and knowledge

[@oneaboveall1751]

Higher Brothers had a beef with Sean, and when they left you could say the group was dying already.

[@bangsuha_]

what beef bro give me a quick summary.

[@jeundelcarmen3933]

@@bangsuha_ There was one instance where Psy.P (one of the higher brothers) comments (on Instagram) implied that his solo albums weren't released globally because of 88rising. Interestingly, Bohan Phoenix also states that the label owes him money. The other beef might refer to an instance where some of the higher brothers' posted Chinese nationalism/flag on their socials and the label may have not liked that - albeit others (Jackson Wang) expressed Chinese nationalism too. I'm not educated on the matter, but that action was definitely controversial and perhaps not favored by the Asian-American label. And while I am a fan of the HBs, I can understand why that move has made them less profitable in the Western market- specifically the rap genre.

[@golden_raisins]

​@@jeundelcarmen3933whats wrong with repping your country 😭 the bohan phoenix thing tho 👀👀👀

[@yomsicle]

I always looked at Atarasshi Gakko not within the realm of 88Rising but rather just J-Pop idol groups as a whole. I always kinda viewed them as the only group besides Babymetal that actually try to innovate and set themselves apart from other groups in an otherwise boring industry. Like it's no wonder Japanese girls try moving to Korea to be in a K-pop group instead, but AG has managed to stay true to their ideals despite their viral success wearing off in recent years.

[@YoungDou]

No way I completely forgot about 88rising

[@RBrooks10]

This is a fantastic video essay thank you for making this , on no bs been thinking about what happened to 88 rising for a few months now that shit was lowkey on the radar vibes early on too

[@vinsanity3510]

Random story, this guy and I were supposed to fight só to hype myself up I pulled up to the spot BLASTIN gospel. That song was so heavy I swear it made homie backtrack hard, apologize, and ask to be cool again. prolly lowkey saved my life cuz bro was on some gully pistol packin shit so that fight would not have been the last one. Shoutout Keith ape and XXX y’all made me appear way harder than I really am

[@LightersInc]

lol thats hilarious

[@scum4172]

was fw 88 back when it was made and a few years after and you killed this videoo, also you're funny asl

[@EddieNgatia]

88ising was THAT niche group. they peaked with Midsummer madness run...History by RB was my fav. i seriously miss them.

[@PabloAfroSamurai]

Ive been waiting for this video for 6 years mayne, I feel seen

[@tempurasupplyco]

oh dude 88 is how i found out about the whole thing, respect in the early years, which is where i was at, then around 2020, vapors, dust, ruins, what happened

[@galapagosisland]

Bro I love your IBGM music video and now you’re making fire video essays🔥🔥🔥KEEP IT UP

[@MFsyrup]

I want a higher brothers breakdown. I was pissed that they put Soldier Boy on a title track and let him literally phone in the whole performance

[@oreochocolate_lavacake9960]

As a black woman who loved listening to 88 rising artists, it's pretty sad tbh.

[@mycah925]

Atarashii Gakko in D tier is crazy

[@akirakurusu4309]

They're literally the black sheep of 88rising lmao

[@golden_raisins]

Literally made his music taste lose so much credibility lmao