9 Differently Firing V-4 Engines

[@gerardmontgomery280]

That RSV4 makes the most fantastic sound on the planet.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

The original Vmax (1200cc) has the same layout and about the same sound. With dual exhaust straight pipes it sounds like a muscle car.

[@shadowv6794]

What about the *MT-10* and *YZF-R1?*

[@mushrume]

desmosedici is insane as well . the street one of 2008

[@mik3ymomo]

Have to agree

[@MegaTechpc]

I dunno, I bet Emma Watson does...

[@cromo7743]

I missed the V4 engine with, by far, the most amazing sound of all V4 engines: Honda VFR800, with 90-90-90-450 ignition times. Yamaha could use these ignition times in their crossplane engine (R1), it would be awesome.

[@cromo7743]

@@Lorin-GabrielLeaua-fm1lw YES. People who have decision-making power in companies (in motorcycles and cars too) have survived internal disputes and reached management through a series of personal talents, but they are probably not like us, who like motorcycles and cars. (google translator)

[@Damien.D]

Let's face it, of them all, the Vmax sounds incredibly good. (that Essex V4 sounds like a good old US V8 also)

[@exothermal.sprocket]

2nd gen sounds even better. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJ7Mf6F4gMZra9k

[@rajatraghuram7587]

I've ridden a 2005 Yamaha Vmax here in my town and I've got to say, its got the best linear torque curve in bikes that I've ridden. No Traction Control for that extra lower end with acceleration that doesn't throw you out of the bike. Nor is there ABS, cause real men use fingers.

[@allhailzoidberg8182]

@@rajatraghuram7587 I own a 2006 vmax. It's an absolute blast to ride and the sound is amazing too. Even the harley people around here know what a V-Max is it won't dare race it. I also own a 96 Magna v4 and a 2002 which is going to receive a Vfr750 motor swap and a turbo for drag race use.

[@rajatraghuram7587]

@@allhailzoidberg8182 Damn nice, mate! Would love to see the drag spec Magna.

[@allhailzoidberg8182]

@@rajatraghuram7587 it's going to be a couple years before I get it going. I bought the bike for $100 usd, and every bit of the bike screams scrap metal. It was in a house fire over 10 years ago and sat in someone's storage shed since. But it has a straight frame and good motor to start from. I've got 3rd magna in addition to my other two that is strictly to rob parts off of. Here is a video of a drag spec Vfr750. My Magna will have the vfr750 motor internals swapped into it since they share the same block. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJWtq62clKuGrK8

[@foxlogistics3543]

That Aprilia rsv4 is my dream bike. I love the sound!!

[@therealredlightman]

Unfortunately the sound in this particular video is mostly because of the SC Project aftermarket exhaust system, which is not road legal in most countries. :/

[@TheCybusterGundam]

Really.... most people ride with straight pipes here (some are tuned) in my home country. Like who cares?

[@therealredlightman]

Oh really? In germany you get busted for that really quickly since its quite obvious and its pretty expensive.

[@arthurmchugh5184]

Fox Logistics they let me ride one at the dealership. Holy shit!

[@iTxip]

lol that bike sounds awesome even with the stock can

[@NyadeeliftheHedgehogDead]

4:16 Sounds like the 2000's NASCAR Stock Cars 👍 and is just a v4

[@rod928s4]

Yes! You are quite right! Especially when the RPM's are up there...

[@blackheavyblans]

those aprilia's sounds😍

[@crezychameau]

Honda, you build great machines and I love you, but please, pleaaaaase try to make your engines sound a bit better... the vfr 1200 sound like an overgrown lawn mower...

[@tioaj7272]

Crézy Chameau 😂😂 oh shit, it really does 💯

[@leviscottt11]

listen to the vfr800 with a delkevic exhaust. sounds beautiful. v4 aswell.

[@ilham7345]

They're still struggling with F1 engine failure

[@aarr2603]

Crézy Chameau I agree the last great Honda v4 was the 1998-2000 vfr800 with its gear driven cams the sound that bike makes is beautiful

[@loganbarrell9283]

Stock exhaust makes anything sound like a lawnmower... take that honda vfr and cut that damn muffler off. Look up straight piped vfr and you will hear that motor come alive.

[@InvictvsNox]

Oh my god, I love the sound of that NSR500... The two stroke element of it makes it an absolute chorus of low end roar combined with the high end scream.

[@johnnytopgun6414]

Aprilia is the closest to a motogp bike, but I can't part with my VFR tho

[@camgearmoto2260]

What vfr model sounds like moto gp?

[@9LB.hammer]

@@camgearmoto2260 rc30/35

[@camgearmoto2260]

What 400? Nc21 and nc24 or nc30 and nc35

[@HomebrewSubaru]

Keep it up Visio, always quality.

[@DandizzleUK]

Damn, Honda used to make awesome bikes, now everything they make is so ordinary... wheres your imagination gone guys?! Used to own a VFR400 nc30, absolutely loved it! Wasn't the fastest bike, but the sound and the power delivery always put a smile on my face. Another great video Visio, keep them coming :)

[@apancher]

They definitely used to be on the cutting edge of technology and innovation. Now, they are very much the safe choice. I say this as someone who used to sell bikes for a living (Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki, BMW, KTM, and MV Agusta)

[@frostyab7579]

you should have included 86/87 VFR750F right after the RC30 to show how the same engine can have completely different sound due to firing order

[@omfgwtfbbq90]

What about VFR800 RC46? It has a different engine from RC30... How could you leave that one out? Or the V45 Magna?

[@taxus750]

Or the VFR750 RC36

[@oscarpark1523]

Great Video.. That's the first time I've ever heard a ducati's engine over the sound of the dry clutch rattle..

[@ndc5544p]

The V4 is a rare beast. Sounds amazing! Kind-of want one of those fords now...

[@ThatCrazyMechanic]

love how there is more saabs in his videos now.

[@OddBallPerformance]

I own a VFR1200. Everybody that thinks they sound like "shit" has almost certainly not heard one in person with a good aftermarket exhaust on it. No recording captures the true sound of the exhaust note. Yes, at low revs they do have a definite chainsaw sound to them, but wind them out past 4500rpm and they sound amazing, very Formula engine-esque. Then again, it seems to be popular to hate on the 1200. I have noticed that almost every person that talks down on them has never even sat on one, let alone actually ridden one. We can gloss over the fact that the engine itself is actually dimensionally smaller AND lighter than the 800cc engine, while also producing over 60% more power and torque. But, I digress.

[@DoozYdaBEATWALKER]

I had a 2010 and regret selling it. It's not just the exhaust note but the engine intake sounds make it howl. The vfr 1200 literally is the rc 211 v it's a rocket ship and easily the most underrated bike of the last 20 years

[@SONO4B11T]

I don't know when I last watched this video. After being a motogp fan for 2 years, it's nice to watch it again & actually understand the concept and purpose of having all these different firing orders.

[@Pertamax7-HD]

not easy to understanding

[@jasonessen-rees9753]

Great vid but where was the vfr750 f rc24,rc36 they had different crank to the rc 30 and a 1324 firing order .Then you have the 800 range with vtec.

[@G58]

And Is the VF750F Interceptor the same firing order as the VFR750?

[@martinx1525]

And you have the best VFR 800 with gear driven cams. Much better than the pseudo VFR ( VTEC).

[@peterpimmelmann3330]

400 hp per liter is pretty nice

[@VisioRacer]

That's what a two-stroke is capable of!

[@MrSnakedHD]

VisioRacer but it doesn't mean anything since the 2 stroke has one explosion per revolution instead of one in two revolutions. So a 500cc 2T is the equivalent of a 1000cc 4T and the fuel consumption is in the same ballpark while being much less efficient. What's the point of comparing the two ? It's a common mistake, the Workshop has a good video on it

[@ToMMi808]

Jordan E 2t is twice as powerful unless 4t is turboed.

[@kekman3923]

Jordan E smaller and lighter

[@mcfast52]

A 4 stroke power stroke last the complete stroke, a 2 stroke power stroke last until the EX port starts to open a lot of times is about 1/2 of the stroke.

[@drifteradol86z]

Greetings from Venezuela, very good video but you miss mentioning the V4 turbo hybrid engine of the Porsche 919 WEC, you may not have gotten information about that incredible engine but I think you should mention it

[@jody024]

He didn't say he was listing all of them....

[@medveavatar]

Maybe it's an ordinary firing one, but i don't know for sure

[@norwayitalo]

that is pure racing motor Adolfo nobody others then pro racers know it

[@norwayitalo]

Adolfo and yes it is a masterpiece of engeneering

[@drifteradol86z]

it´s possible, but as this engine configuration is very unusual, and they placed V4 engines of motorcycles and cars, of production or of races, I do mention that his missed that so extraordinary engine

[@mnowaczek8480]

First to dislike Not Such creative

[@VisioRacer]

133:0 is a nice ratio!

[@mnowaczek8480]

VisioRacer honestly dude, your videos are so interesting to watch, just keep doing them forever Pls :D

[@marsdeimos4301]

RSV4 sounds like a beast, unlike the VFR1200, which sounds like... it doesn't sound like anything, really. The sound of VFR1200F or VFR1200X is so bland and underwhelming. Basically it's a droner as well as the RC30 - the crank throws are spaced at 360°, but there is that offset between the pair of pistons on each throw, so they move more like a 90° V, to reduce vibration, which makes sense, since the engine is for a touring motorcycle.

[@phillyphil1513]

re: "the VFR1200, which sounds like... it doesn't sound like anything, really. The sound of VFR1200F or VFR1200X is so bland and underwhelming. Basically it's a droner as well as the RC30" correct, finally someone to at least acknowledge the buzzing sound was intended to mimic the 360 cranked RVF's (RC30/RC45) which are more known in Europe than the rumbling VFR's (180 crank VFR750/800) that are more known in America.

[@BestRex]

And VFR1200X Crosstourer is a great motorcycle, thanks to that engine. It pulls so strong through the entire rev range! Sooo much torque everywhere! Very rapid acceleration in perfect comfort without any vibrations. Best bike in the shaft adventure category.

[@andrewg4412]

Fun fact, despite the VFR1200 sounding so very tame, the VFR800 Interceptor actually sounds veyr much more like the RSV4 and is super cheap to own. I also promise that 90% of you (including me) couldn't out ride the bike despite it being a simple sports tourer ;)

[@ricepony33]

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[@shadowv6794]

Which V-4 configuration for the motorcycles is better? The *V-4 65°,* the *V-4 90°* or other *V-4* and why?

[@camrongoodall]

Anybody wanna see a w9 on a motorcycle

[@yutsumon]

Camron Goodall too much engineering involved to make it small enough. And by small I'm mean less then 399cc because of much cooling it would take.

[@Hulluboju]

Thats just way too much complications for practically no forseeable benefit so no

[@Kkessler654]

1. Aprilia 2. Yamaha Vmax 3. Ducati

[@tommikurronen4384]

That power-spike tho 2:18

[@FoxPerformance326]

Hey Visio ! Would you recommend your previous five-banger, the Bravo, for a beginner driver ?

[@VisioRacer]

Absolutely, it was a fun machine for a beginner with a beautiful sound and not too much power, but still enough to have fun.

[@FoxPerformance326]

Ok thanks ! But unfortunately the HGT version becomes quite rare in France, so besides travelling hundreds of kilometers across the country it would be impossible to find. And is the Coupe 5cyl N/A as good as the Bravo for my case ?

[@VisioRacer]

I think it is

[@FoxPerformance326]

Ok :)

[@sigma7568]

2-strokes 💜

[@Hulluboju]

Rutz Tutz 2-strokes are shite

[@sigma7568]

The Adversary you are shit! lol

[@Rius9106]

I think that 2-strokes have only one flaw and it is their reliability. With bikes however it doesn't matter because they are way easier to maintain and its not even expensive. If someone says 2-strokes don't have as much torque, it is because they usually have smaller displacement than 4-strokes, because 2-strokes just make more power out of small displacement. And there aren't big 2-stroke bikes because they would just be too damn powerful.

[@Hulluboju]

Rick Delair hey, i own a 2-stroke. I daily-drive one. Yet i still think they are shite for the road, due to very high maintenance intervals and extreme fuel consumption combined with pretty high pollution. For the track they are very good due to their far superior power density, but i wouldn't buy one for road use.

[@Hulluboju]

Kalle Lahti and its not just said that they have less torque than 4-strokes because they are usually smaller, but also between a 50cc 4-stroke and 50cc 2-stroke, there is still a torque cap that can be felt, mostly due to the 2-stroke engines need to rev higher to achieve the same power level as the 4-stroke and revving higher will on the side lower your torque

[@dedelabinouze5110]

A Desmosedici RR with carbon wheels must be simply insane.

[@MrSandwichk]

It'd be better with animations..

[@samuelfitzsimmons8907]

I have an rvf400 makes 91hp. And is also a big bang firing order... unlike the the nsr500 its a 4stroke.... sounds nasty.

[@waelcartech]

No hondavfr800 awesome sound ?! Check out its sound the smoking tire swaped honda car with this engine .

[@BRM101]

Aprilia sounds amazing 😍

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Honda VFR1200 sounds like a pile of garbage. Sorry Honda. You over-engineered what could have been a monster and created a buzzy goofy expensive low-seller. Should have featured the updated 2nd gen Vmax. Engine is different again.

[@carlosandleon]

how is it designed?

[@Tuukkis]

It's true that the 1200 sucks massive hairy balls, but the old VFR750 is the best sounding Honda motorcycle. Ever.

[@prasanthalba3199]

Someone please gift me a Panigale v4, I will keep it inside my house.

[@elendshuraglump3620]

Very interesting !!! TOP

[@killergnomestar]

This is why i own a 50cc 1 cylinder...

[@fidelcatsro6948]

Fit a turbo in it...;)

[@Klootviooltje]

I got myself a RSV4, its funny how much nice reactions I get on the road from random people

[@spasstamatov5513]

Hi mate, can you explain something about the NSR 500. You sad that crank is on 180 degrees, and because we speak about two stroke engine, that meaning that two of the cilinders make the power stroke in the same time! I think that this is not possible. Did you get the point? Correct me if I'm wrong...

[@muhammadawisabdshahadan1117]

2stroke 125/135&150cc 1cylinder jika diusik pun sudah laju lagikan pula 500cc 4cylinder kan?..hahaha:-) mesti jadi pelesit kota wooo...weng weng weng...

[@razzberryscary]

make a video on triple engines =)

[@vettonator]

It wasn't really touched on much here but the benefit of those uneven power pulses Is it makes the bike more forgiving when you're riding on the edge at the very limit of traction. The gaps in power pulses aĺlow the tire to regain traction between pulses so that it doesn't break loose as abruptly as a bike with an even firing engine. Btw you didn't mention the 65 degree, 1700cc 2nd gen Vmax, it sounds similar to the rsv4 but kind of unique in its own way. The 1st gen Vmax 1200 had a 70 degree bank angle.

[@littlemsaj62]

4:59 tf are those mirrors tho...

[@schaltgetriebe6726]

Rc30 is my dream

[@dallatorretdu]

That VFR1200 doesn't sound that good honestly

[@whisperdancer]

dallatorretdu The sound is horrible. Sounds like a BMW boxer engine. Nothing to do with the old VFRs.

[@VisioRacer]

I think so as well, its sound is awful.

[@2bitmarketanarchist337]

My friend's father has two VFR 1,000s. What a beastly noise they make at idle, revving they sound like angry hell beasts

[@artby2wenty]

Wheres the VFR750?

[@TumzDK]

there was a VFR750R ;-)

[@alanbrown397]

And here I was thinking "screamer"=2 stroke and "thumper"=4 stroke

[@elcookiemonsteru]

I love the sound of the in-line fours, nothing sound like one, but the last 3 bikes are for sure dream bikes! :D

[@rocknexus5749]

Definitely missed the vfr800 in this. 2002 onward is quite unique, not to mention the VTEC

[@joestrother2583]

Motus MSTR, The American V4

[@TTime685]

I want a Vmax so bad..

[@fakenews7266]

I have a souped up 1988 and a stock 1998

[@Birky_41]

I do love the sound of the Aprilia

[@philiptownsend4026]

Is a shame all this ingenuity and beauty is about to be lost to whirring electric motors. Sigh of despair.

[@OmegaxPrime]

I know Honda did some really clever engineering on that vfr 1200 to save weight and eliminate the need for a counter balance shaft but my god did they ever kill every ounce of soul in that bike. The sound has always been 70% of the vfr experience and they took it from raucous and thunderous to 2 stroke garden tool.

[@pl1068]

You should hear it with a full Akrapovic and the baffle removed.

[@walangchahangyelingden8252]

Car guys: Know plenty about engine layouts and how they work. Bike guys: Sound is enough!

[@femmeincoco]

you are doing good job

[@JTV84]

it's really hard to visualise the differing unevenness just from the description, it would be great if we could compare them in graphical form to see the gaps between the pulses.

[@soleluna2319]

DESMOSEDICI🔥

[@allanhughes7859]

HONDA HAS IT WITHOUT DOUBT SO SMOOTH AND REVS BEYOUND ALL LIMITS I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE ONE !!

[@valensinclair6750]

Jesus, the VFR1200 sounds like a fucking chainsaw. LOL

[@martinivanov1319]

honda vfr is the first and best v4 bike. aprilia are unreliable trashes and ducati panigale is like a ferrari

[@wyatthart2434]

Ducati rules the v4 for now ktm and aprilla will try

[@GIGABACHI]

LOL, that Honda 1200 still sounds like GARBAGE. IMO the only Honda(on this vid) that sounded decent was the supposedly "flawed" screamer. Aprilia 65* 1000cc V4 still king followed close by Yamaha V-MAX V4.

[@weofnjieofing]

JIGA BACHI that screamer v4 sounded amazing. Honda should follow ktms lead and build a modern day v4 two stroke screamer!

[@GIGABACHI]

You'll have a better chance of seeing God himself at the local strip joint tipping a dancer while sharing a drink with you.

[@bbracing3925]

I miss that (sha-boom) outro music. Please bring it back. 🥲

[@hooviedoovie5220]

rsv4 sounds fuckin nasty. i love it.

[@SpionHefeGamingHD]

That NSR500 is suicide on two wheels

[@opalyezzz9117]

what about aprilia sxv 450/550 ?

[@thesmoker4027]

The lancia fulvia’s v4 has a wondeful sound too

[@blackheavyblans]

4:20 sounds like old v8 formula 1

[@mr_sowong9464]

More like nascar and american muscle

[@decordejohnson7910]

Dat Desmosedici doe....🔊🔊🔊😍😍😍😍😍

[@spykerlaviolette2495]

4:22 sounds like Porsche RS Spyder race car

[@dejandobric5482]

LANCIA fulvia has an V4 as well :-)

[@HT-yz7yi]

Honda vfr 800 vtec by far the best sond

[@mydyslexicperspective4362]

How did you leave the MOTUS ???

[@TotoGeenen]

early crew

[@HoosierDaddy_]

That Ducati sounds like pure evil

[@BRM101]

Brad Last Name it so does 😄

[@s71402san]

What about the good old Zaporoshets???

[@wesleydantes5968]

I wish the ecoboost mustang was v4

[@Mothy2014]

I ride a gen 5 vfr800 with the gear driven cams. When i pull up to a cafe where there are heaps of other bikes, people always look to see my bike purely because of the sound. Not only because of the v4 but the gear drives gives it a very unique sound

[@monsieurcommissaire1628]

•The Aprilia = Franco Corelli •The Ducati = Mario Del Monaco Both possess Greatness, but in different ways.

[@derzugugger8703]

I'am more confused as before after watching this video. I tried to get an overview about angles between each firings on the 720° 4-stroke or 360° 2-stroke cycles to compare between even or more big bang configurations. This I couldn't out of this video. I also belive Ducati meens with Tween Pulse of the Desmosedici RR a confiuration with 0° crankshaft resuling in a 90° - 630° firing order similar the L2 but 2 cylinders simultaneous.

[@OwnerOP]

I would choose Yamaha R1M every single time because it produces almost 90% of that Aprilia/Ducati V4 Sound, meanwhile being 100% more reliable thn any Aprilia or Ducati .

[@cromo7743]

if a V2 engine has a angle between cilinders V, and a angle between split crank pins S, if 90-V=(S/2), then the engine is perfect balanced in terms of primary order. Note a tradicional V2-90 degrees, with shared crank pins, obey this fórmula, and the Honda 1200 obey too.

[@wridersupermototerritory3020]

Hey I may have asked this earlier, but could you make something like "extraordinary sub-300cc bikes"?

[@jurrien75]

vfr800 rc46 here. Not the same as the vfr750 rc30. Is it the same as the Vmax?

[@jamest.5001]

That Ducati sounds awesome, I wish my lawnmower sounded like that!! 😆 Heck I wish my car sounded like it!!

[@Errol.C-nz]

You missed Hondas vf1000R & vf1700 vmax two very unique engines .. particularly the 1700 a decade ahead of everyone else.. when Honda, like Ducati now, were creative in finding solutions & advantage ahead of their competition vs lame excuses

[@joaoribas8886]

Faltou a honda Magna 750

[@hansjoubert]

Could you maybe also look at honda vfr 800? Has a different firing order as well... very unique

[@Mickey_Bauer]

Honda VFR1200 sounds like a chainsaw. Very nice, smooth engine, i like the bike too but i hate the sound for some reason. Looks like the aftermarket muffler doesn't help much at all

[@mrflamewars]

The Taunus V4 makes a sound that Clarkson would call "A symphony of evil!" It sounds like it runs on the pure, distilled essence of absolute hatred.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

Last video on the nsr499çç with 200hp was incredible....I wish they make 2 strokes again...

[@blendpinexus1416]

i want an spx v4 now

[@akio2589]

Forgot the Suzuki Madura with its 72* bank angle and 360* crank.

[@stephenmwyatt2]

the VFR1200 was basically the Honda MotoGP engine, with way less compression

[@metalsecrecy]

Where is the magna with its 90° v4 360°crank. The sound is the best in my opinion