9 Tools From a Hostage Negotiator That Will Get You a Raise | Chris Voss | EP 425

Dr. Jordan Peterson speaks with author, teacher, and prior hostage negotiator Chris Voss. They discuss the necessity of prioritizing needs and wants, how to navigate the job market to fit your best potential, how and why to go after a raise, the primacy of invitational collaboration over compelled, and how Voss succeeded in many real-world hostage negotiations.
Chris Voss has served as the lead international kidnapping negotiator for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the hostage negotiation representative for the National Security Council’s Hostage Working Group, and the lead Crisis Negotiator for the NYC division of the FBI. Chris was a member of the New York City Joint Terrorist Task Force for 14 years, a recipient of the Attorney General’s Award for Excellence in Law Enforcement, and the FBI Agents Association Award for Distinguished and Exemplary Service. Chris has taught business negotiation courses at the University of Southern California, Georgetown University, and Harvard University. He has also guest lectured at Northwestern University and at schools abroad. Currently, Chris works with Insite Security as their Managing Director of the Kidnapping Resolution Practice.
This episode was filmed on January 12th, 2024
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(0:41) Coming up
(1:15) Intro
(2:44) What it really means to negotiate
(5:58) How to set yourself up for success in negotiating a raise
(11:42) Don’t take yourself hostage, adopting a success-oriented mindset
(14:01) Both sides should leave excited for their continued relationship
(17:04) Chris Voss’ favorite “calibrated question” for job interviews
(21:00) Hope and opportunity require two things
(24:28) When you ask a question, really mean it: “You gotta want to be diamond”
(29:23) First impressions are lasting
(31:40) What it means to really listen rather than just “staying silent”
(35:18) Why people bully and micromanage - and why you shouldn’t
(38:57) The “Black Swan Technique”
(42:10) Navigating a hostage situation, applying this to the workplace
(47:24) Tools for productive work relationships and common ground
(53:02) Don’t deal with people who are “half”
(54:27) Work somewhere that aligns with your core values
(55:50) You can’t fix a bad employer or a bad employee
(58:22) When to sever a bad relationship
(1:00:31) You should be able to summarize what the other person has said
(1:02:33) Conflict deferred is conflict multiplied
(1:05:48) The power of “what” and “how” questions
(1:09:29) Acknowledging fear and obstacles
(1:12:09) Carl Rogers, the mirroring technique
(1:13:41) What drives adverse reactions and how to right the conversational ship
(1:16:29) De-escalating a hostage situation during a bank robbery
(1:24:02) Balancing truth and deception
(1:29:31) Never split the difference
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[@fortusvictus8297]

In this episode, Chris Voss gives a masterclass in listening.

[@justzaya]

haha I know exactly what you mean

[@mstephens8908]

I was thinking the exact same thing. JP gave more explanations than he did.

[@xblJoey]

JP always does 😂

[@jameserickson1330]

Yeah this was a bummer

[@FreedomFilmdotcom]

I thought I was supposed to listen to this to hear Chris Voss?

[@strantheman]

I ran into Mr. Voss on the street 2 weeks ago. I stammered a little bit but thanked him for his videos and how they helped me with my job search. He said you're welcome and was very nice and I made sure to let him get back to his day. Really nice guy.

[@LaMiGrAFrAnK]

Ya know I completely respect what you did there. At the same time may I respectfully propose you may very well never see him again and another day of life is not guaranteed.. so If you wanted to what do you have to lose by going "Hey Chris if you got a bit can I buy you a coffee and pick your brain a bit." All of this is a moot point if you had no interest in doing so of course.

[@strantheman]

@@LaMiGrAFrAnK nah both of us were on our way somewhere. But yep I know what you mean. Don't think I had anything smart to ask at that moment! Haha

[@victorsoaresdealmeida6688]

Two absolute monsters interacting right here! I simply can't believe how blessed I am to be able to watch this conversation FOR FREE!

[@jockspock4233]

Intelctual discourse should not be beholden to a paywall at that point its aldready failed

[@missmolly5129]

Truly... Wow! I LOVE THEM BOTH!

[@michaelvigil3436]

They talked before on Mikhaila’s podcast and Jordan was actually a bit rough with him and kept asking about his divorce and stuff 😂 I’m actually pleasantly surprised to see that Rich is back, looking forward to listening to it

[@victorsoaresdealmeida6688]

@@jockspock4233 yeah, because people should work for free, right? What a joke

[@chilledtea6614]

Did you listen to the one with him and his daughter with voss? Very funny and interesting too!

[@bellanegrin3915]

Dr. Peterson, one of the wisest things my father ever said to me when I was a young teenager was if you can only get what you want by telling a lie, then you are not smart enough to get it by telling the truth. Almost five decades later, it still resonates with me. I am able to identify many of those people who are not intelligent enough to know those who can see right through their nonsense, especially in a business or social situation. Generally, truth is very linear. Deception is fraught with holes and jumps around from conclusion to conclusion without a clear or proper proposition or premise.

[@Teyros]

Words of wisdom. Thanks for sharing.

[@aaaaanditsgone]

And many would argue that striving for that Authenticity will also make your life less complicated. And therefore you will be happier

[@bulletinthewind]

I discovered Chris Voss 4yrs ago. I have been waiting for this conversation for 4yrs.

[@eurosocjalizm]

There was another one some 2 years ago

[@carnivoregetaways]

This guy's masterful book has been in my top 10 for over 2 yrs.

[@piolin23iq]

What’s the name of the book??

[@carnivoregetaways]

@@piolin23iq Never Split the Difference

[@endorfitlab7579]

Totally agree! The very first book that I've read for 3 times and enjoyed each time.

[@amo9503]

Whats it about?

[@30guarino]

Sounds like his book has been in your top 10 for over 2 years

[@1KevinsFamousChili1]

I used Voss' book to win a five-figure negotiation with my former employer's lawyer. I was 22, anti-confrontational, and had zero experience with legal negotiations. I easily walked all over a professional lawyer and won 98% of the money I was owed without ever having to go to court and it only took two phone conversations. The government employee assigned to my case said she had never seen anyone get more than 15% in cases like mine. It was entirely thanks to Voss' book.

[@citytrees1752]

Things On the Internet That Never Happened, for $200, please Alex

[@brollik]

Which one of his books was this

[@mikaelbaruchel7059]

@@brollikmust be « Never split the difference »

[@Xeando]

How'd you do this?

[@themats89]

Can you give some specific examples of the tactics you used? It sounds pretty impressive! Thanks

[@SaltPepperEconomics]

His masterclass was probably the best one I’ve ever seen on the platform. His techniques helped me negotiate a wage at the very highest for my position working in a pizza shop over the summer. The masterclass subscription payed for itself!

[@orandanon]

Hey, Can you elaborate on what exactly did you do? I took his course but I found out that, for example, mirroring did not worked for me. As a meter of fact, I noticed Voss tried to do it with “perspicacity?” At 23:17 and it seems that it does not “worked” as expected.

[@jeremykrans]

@@orandanon Didn't work as expected?

[@citytrees1752]

Sounds like it helped you make your way to the top in a really tough and competitive arena. You were probably competing with 2 other high school students who would rather be at home gaming. This is the kind of case study that Voss should include in his marketing materials.

[@pimcornelder4694]

⁠​⁠@@citytrees1752 he’s just stating that something positive happened to him as a result of reading the book. No need to get all cynical and sarcastic about it.

[@SeaMob]

​@citytrees1752 you're an A hole really. Coming from a real big a-hole... that's saying alot

[@desertcountryliving2357]

Perspicacity Noun the quality of having a ready insight into things; shrewdness.

[@reneebulkley1333]

Thank you.😂

[@almmason7]

Thank you 😊

[@zinclonius]

My unmatched perspicacity matched sheer indefatigability, makes me a feared opponent in any realm of human endeavors.

[@hedonistic_ambition9060]

@@zinclonius this is what i was thinking as soon as he said that lol

[@dimitrispavlakis2590]

5:49 there's that famous Chris Voss compliment strategy to start a conversation and put the other person in a positive mood : )

[@destinyglitches9519]

Jordan’s response seemed defensive at first. That pause was tense lol

[@christophertitanium8424]

​@@destinyglitches9519Could be the delay of communicating over a video call

[@sebastianheselaars4315]

Is it me or did it feel not ingenue?

[@johns.1854]

JP knows the tricks

[@berlinerintokyo3321]

​@@johns.1854 yes think that's why he stopped and laughed😂

[@TheRealStructurer]

Nice to see two professionals calmly discuss important and complicated things. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼

[@jim-se5xc]

Magnificent nonsense.

[@Imitatechrist]

@@jim-se5xc Your photo tells it all, brother. A dog on a beach in front of a woman's back cheeks. ..If that isn't a troll!

[@jim-se5xc]

@@Imitatechrist it's deplorable. Pray for me.

[@Imitatechrist]

@@jim-se5xc I pray for you already. I would like to hear your story, believe it or not.

[@JahangirAlamPhD]

The best career advice, negotiation strategy and life advice anyone ever can get. Thanks Dr. Jordan Peterson and Chris Voss.

[@susanrichardson1176]

During the pandemic, I watched Chris Voss's masterclass and the advice of active listening, as well as noticing when someone is having a bad day, seemed like a miracle in helping me out of situations or getting help when help had previously seemed stagnant. I discovered Dr Peterson soon after and the life-changing events continued. Wow, such a treat to have them both in the same interview. Thanks so much!

[@joelphilson4483]

Two of my favorite people had a wonderful conversation here, with multiple actionable points to improve our lives. An absolute delight to witness 😊🔥

[@zb6rw]

Finally Chris is by Jordan… so much fun the conversation between you both. Nice energy!

[@npmetzy5737]

really enjoyed Jordan interviewing Jordan. Maybe next time he can interview Chris Voss

[@maryamrashidi2329]

Watching and listening to this interview, interestingly enough with a 'negotiator' whose key skill is 'listening', I couldn't help myself being distracted by how much Jordan Peterson loved hearing himself talking.... non-stop, with one take of breath... I would have loved to hear Chris Voss speak more - or more precisely, to be given the chance to speak more.

[@SplashJohn]

Agreed, I've seen this same thing with other guests as well, where I end up wishing I could have heard a lot more from the guest. I'm a big fan of JP, but many times he gives off the vibe of someone who believes he's the smartest one in the room, and thus deserves to speak the most and interrupt at will. Regardless of whether he's actually the smartest in the room, it's not a good look, and is not conducive to mutually beneficial discussion.

[@maryamrashidi2329]

Yes, in specially this one, he interrupted too many times. Even when Chris Voss was trying to answer JP's own questions. We never got to the end of the answer... JP kept interrupting, to the point that even Voss got frustrated and said "You should come and coach meeee" 😄

[@bodythetan]

Just before the 32 minute mark, Chris makes a joke about Jordan preparing him for his next job interview. I think Jordan realised in that moment he might be talking too much and then moved onto the next point/question about active listening. Could be a coincidence, but I suspect Chris was subtly communicating what we're expressing here.

[@maryamrashidi2329]

I don’t think it was so “subtle” either if we all clearly noticed it!! 😁 Chris seemed to be amused at whether Jordan had invited him to take him “hostage” 🤭 But more seriously, for me JP’s main problem was that he was pretending to be listening but he wasn’t much interested in what Chris really had to say… It annoyed me: every time JP asked Chris a question about Chris’s experiences in Chris’s domain of expertise, JP kept hijacking the answers halfway through and turning them around into JP agendas or what and how JP does those things (“You know, and I know better”). Was it just me who thought we never heard the full answers to any of the questions before JP cut in and deviated?

[@Haeyvl]

this isn't the chris voss show, I came here to see what jp has to say about what he has to say. Though, yeah the conversation gets a little complicated but what do you expect less? from someone who had been working in academics they spend a lot of life talking and educating those, so maybe its time to find a different channel

[@kit-ja]

The perfect collab the scientific approach meets the practical aproach. Well done gentlemen

[@AlexMcDaniels]

What a masterpiece of a conversation, is always a pleasure learning from the greatest minds of the world. Thank You Dr.Peterson and Mr.Voss.

[@Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics]

Chris Voss is amazing!

[@TeacherFrank16]

I have been reading Chris Voss's book and also following Dr Peterson for some time now and to hear both of their ideas come together and relate to one another is another type of feast in my mind ❤️

[@brrrzrrkrr3434]

thank you jordan . this episode really hit home and felt like something far more tangible for me to think about. i have been more willing to accept the catastrophe and act accordingly, it is a brutal world for the great majority man, and it feels good to see u take this conversation seriously. to have an interview be the meaning of whether u eat or not , is very frustrating as people abuse their authority . i have been far more predatory lately and refuse to feel sorry for it. im following my heart and thats that. thankful for 3 decades on this planet... and thankful that we have someone like you to go to before considering some watered down therapist/psychiatrist that leaves u feeling worse than when u came in. if i ever go to therapy and they say they dont know who you are , im walking right out. on my momma. thanks again.

[@Imitatechrist]

Brother, I suppose English is not your first language neither mine. You becoming „predatory“ I do hope, you don't. Maybe you mean: assertive? Direct. God bless you! You've written well, you do come across as genuine.

[@websurfer49]

Just saw Dr. Peterson in Fargo this week. Absolutely amazing. Did not expect to be so blown away!

[@hejsan5839290485]

Fargo?

[@30guarino]

Sounds like you didn’t expect to be so blown away

[@websurfer49]

@@30guarino I expected excellence but was still surprised at just how good it really was.

[@Bale4Bond]

Did the indian throw his ass out of bed?

[@BenX74]

"Never Split the Difference" by Chris Voss has had a profound impact on my life. A lot of what's in the book has become second nature to me and has helped me tremendously to get ahead. I wouldn't be where I'm at - negotiating big business deals for a living and being in the top 15% of salaries in my country at age 39 - if I headn't read that book. Being good at negotiating is a real-life superpower.

[@tomatosauce605]

This was amazing timing - I’m at a loss for my next step in my career, hopefully this helps. Thanks, Jordan. Update: I just got head hunted for my first management role - I was able to negotiate the company car from a basic one to a Tesla Model 3 dual motor (my dream car!) Thank you to everyone for the kind comments ❤

[@piquedcommenter6252]

Good luck *negotiating* your way around these next few steps, my man 👊

[@iam1smiley1]

Same here....thinks it's time to go back to self employment, it was a mistake to get a job but still useful info working for myself.

[@chrisc5574]

​@iam1smiley1 glad to see I'm not the only one that regrets leaving self-employment.

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

I think but will help me you and everyone else who has interviews this and next week

[@tomiokagiyuu1730]

Chris Voss is the legend by now. Thank you Chris Voss!

[@TeacherMom80]

I love this discussion! Thank you SO much! 💕...Funny note... Im having trouble sleeping, so I put this on Spotify, hoping it would relax me. Of course, its so interesting that I am being a very attentive listener! So much in fact that I kept hearing a very quiet clicking sound in the background. So I switched to KZbin so I could see the video. I thought there must be a fireplace crackling in the background but didnt see one. 🤷🏼‍♀️ So then I thought I must have water in my phone speaker thats distorting the sound (I dropped my phone in the dishwater yesterday😅), until I realized that it was Dr. Petersons pen making the sound! 😆 I love this observation because I was so worried that I was suffering from hearing loss! 💕 My goodness, Im always learning something new here, in ways I never even expected! God bless you guys! Thank you so much for everything, Dr. Peterson! You have profoundly changed my life & consequently, the lives of my children & every life I touch. 🥹 That is not a small thing. 💕🙏🏼

[@wolf-dietergrabner9762]

Excellent conversations of two great teachers. Thank you gentlemen.

[@meiamba05]

You just recognize greatness from a distant. Thank you for this talk teachers!🙏🏾

[@SoulsOfWisdom]

Chris Voss is amazing. Calibrated how questions were difficult to adapt to at first, but once I got used to them, they really stump people aggressive and annoying people.

[@30guarino]

Aggressive and annoying people?

[@Iwo26]

Chris Voss is the man!

[@claytonfosberg328]

Never Split the Difference is hands down the best, most practical book for self-development I've read. I've used the tactics in the book to negotiate higher level positions and increased my salary by 30% in 4 years.

[@ah64Dcoming4U]

Thank you gentlemen.I wasn't expecting this but really needed it.

[@laurafarrell799]

Best book I've ever read on negotiating and sales is "The Go Givers". Thank you for this conversation. Much appreciated.

[@johniv7406]

Thank you. I've been working at a sawmill/ logging company since 2013. I went back to school for automotive in 2019. I ended up staying at my job moving into maintenance. For the last year or so I went back to my old job I was trying to get away from due to lack of bodies. It went from just covering to permanent. I'm gearing up to visit all the dealerships in town to move out and up. This information is priceless to me. Thank you both so much.

[@WeRunGoogleAds]

Loved Chris Voss's Never Split the Difference. One point that has had a profound value in my life is getting the others to say 'THAT'S RIGHT'! subtle but powerful, game-changing wisdom

[@GPHealthandWellbeing]

This type of conversation is invaluable to my life and career. I've followed both speakers for years, and the tools they have espoused will set you up for success❤

[@martinbrousseau2560]

Crazy I suggested Mikhaila Peterson Dec,2020 she interview Chris Voss,,, one month later Mikhaila n Jordan where both interviewing Chris Voss… I’m glad he’s back…

[@Jordy_NL]

That was great suggestion :)

[@citytrees1752]

it's all due to you, bro, all due to you

[@martinbrousseau2560]

@@citytrees1752 sorry it’s not,,, though I consider myself lucky too have Mikhaila question her audience who she should interview,,, me see her questions,,, me aware of Chris Work,,, I did see Mikhailas response n took a screenshot, saying she would interview Chris Voss… plus many more things contributed… What’s important is Chris Voss work to improve n discover how to communicate by staying curious while he only hires innovators to work on his team in at least one ☝️ aspect he mentions in this video by telling potential new hires he needs people who will take n give a lot like they want diamonds 💎 on his team requiring them to work hard.

[@missmolly5129]

Wonderful interview! I've been admiring both of you for quite some time. I will watch this again and take notes.

[@jlwannebo]

I love both Chris Voss' book to see these two excellent communicators and listeners do this amazing 'back and forth' in this podcast. Great stuff!

[@agusrusso6087]

I feel this podcast woke me up. I have always been known for my ability and how I enjoy talking in public, and even tho that never ended because its a really big part of who I am, I have been very isolated lately and that kinda affected me strongly socially and mentally where I started feeling dumb. This made me extremely conscious every time I face a hard exercise or I had to talk in public (which is far from being "nervous" because I want, rather I eat myself with "I am losing them" or "I am not adding value" or "Im being unconscious on what matters here") so I ended up not feeling as confident but this podcast remind me of the basics of the values that I move on when I talk in public and helped me alligning the lessons with my personality

[@JoJo-du7fl]

Good on you. Happy you’re waking up to your own value again. Keep finding ways to experience that. It so important.

[@glassladder7973]

This was a great dialogue. Very helpful.

[@dianefreih4799]

Thank You for coming to Fargo ND! I was totally immersed in the depth and clarity of the Biblical stories of Cain and Abel and Noah ! I have been attending BSF ( Bible Study Fellowship) for over 15 years with one book or two for each year. And very helpful, but your depth of understanding how these stories still relate to each of us today . And thanking Tami too for sharing her journey !

[@MidwestFarmToys]

Anyone figure out how/why they all lived to like 600 years old yet? Why was god unhappy with Cain's offering? Just because?

[@billybayaraa]

@@MidwestFarmToys There's a theory that the world was covered in another layer made up of water, aside from the ozone layer. Onew that would've blocked off more radiation and UV light so that the cell or the DNA didn't degrade it as fast as it does today. It was noticed that after Noah's flood people stopped aging that long so that water layer might've been the water that fell on the earth for 40 days and 40 nights. For the Cain one only God knows really but there's some speculation

[@justsayno2458]

@@MidwestFarmToys Shortly after God created the world people lived longer lives because the world was more pristine and their bodies (genes, DNA, etc) were not so damaged by environmental factors. Our world has slowly become more and more poisoned and damaged the further we've come from the day of creation. Romans 8:22 says, "We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time." All of creation is awaiting God's redemption not only of His people but also His world. As to why God was unhappy with Cain's offering: Genesis 4:3 says, "So in the course of time, Cain brought some of the fruit of the soil as an offering to the LORD, 4 while Abel brought the best portions of the firstborn of his flock. And the LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, 5 but He had no regard for Cain and his offering. So Cain became very angry, and his countenance fell. 6“Why are you angry,” said the LORD to Cain, “and why has your countenance fallen? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you refuse to do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires you, but you must master it.” The clues are in the text. Abel brought the "best portions" while Cain brought "some of the fruit." When Cain felt the twinge of conviction instead of repenting and turning back towards God, he becomes angry, turns against God, gives himself over to sin (vs. 7) and shortly thereafter murders his brother in cold blood. Even after the murder, read the text carefully, he blame-shifts, denies and runs away rather than taking personal responsibility and repenting for his sin. The big question is: What do we do when we feel that twinge of conviction? What do we do when we KNOW we've done wrong? Do we run back to God and sincerely apologize and try from there on to do things according to His Word? Or do we run away, hide, blame-shift, deny we did anything wrong, etc? Choose carefully! Life is short but the afterlife is forever. You are immortal. You will live forever, somewhere. Choose life. Choose to run to Christ. He is the only way to God.

[@almmason7]

​@krvnjrcbs Sounds like you are interested in the Bible?

[@almmason7]

​@krvnjrcbs Also, regarding Cain & Abel...How would you feel if your child brought you his garbage, but another child brought you his 1st & best possessions to have? 😮

[@Calaxt01]

Crazy timing, I'm in the middle of reading this book.

[@tomasleivalerou178]

By far, the best episode I have listened to

[@hancehanson4000]

The texture & cadence of Voss's voice is----- ...'cool', . . .'smooth'; *i could listen for hours.

[@mariaguzman1552]

Dr Peterson, I just want to thank you for helping me in the last 5 years. I admire your daughter and wife. Makaila is a wonderful young woman. I pray for you and your family.

[@AndrewWHeff]

I've just started watching this episode. Very excited! Two of my favorites!!

[@Woodupthehill]

Dr. Peterson, you are a courageous and wise man!

[@myrar8708]

Going to have 2 job interviews the upcoming weeks. This is really useful information ✌️

[@Jordy_NL]

Good luck!

[@michellewebb9393]

Love to learn something New each day ,and I truly love, appreciate and respect Mr.Peterson's perspective.Thank You Very Much for Just Being Yourself and sharing this with All of Us .❤🙏🤗

[@dontwanadisplaynameonutube2951]

18.43 I’m sure he meant to say this question again, not the last thing you said. “How can I be guaranteed to be involved in projects that are critical to the strategic future of this organization?”

[@opgam3r482]

Amazing, accurate, and relatable episode.

[@Life_Of_Lilliana]

I have been waiting so long for this interview. I did Chris Voss’ masterclass and it was excellent! Two titans in conversation!

[@30guarino]

Sounds like you thought his master class was excellent

[@TravisOngley]

WOW. These conversations Jordan has are absolutely mind boggling. He never ceases to amaze me. The amount of knowledge and wisdom this man and his guests typically have is hard to fathom, but the more i listen, take notes, and try my best to understand, the more i realize how great of a man he is. Jordan is so genuine, and clearly wants nothing but the best for us all. Thank you so much for your work big j, the cross you bear is immense. The future is gonna be good folks. 👌👊💪✌️

[@TravisOngley]

@@Kai-Tzu Nothing is free brother...I see where you're coming from. Money CAN be the root of all evil, in the wrong hands. From what I've seen and heard from this man, this is not the case.

[@TravisOngley]

@@Kai-Tzu I see where you're coming from. He sides with Christianity, but it's for a good reason. And many of his audience I'm sure is fatherless. But the bigger picture is he's doing a great thing for these fatherless young men you speak of. He's as big as he is for a reason.

[@maryj7423]

I'm deep into Voss' book and I just realised something crazy. I think God has been negotiating my own salvation with me. It all adds up. I'm not kidding.

[@almmason7]

Yep, think about His conversation with Moses to save the Israelites in Egypt. David's repentance after he sinned with Bathesheba. Just Surrender its the best decision you'll ever make! 😊❤ Sounds like you have a good place to start...

[@michaelnelson8618]

For someone struggling with belief and faith, could you add a bit to this? Negotiating how?

[@janette499]

Negotiating with you personally ?My understanding of Christianity is that Jesus negotiates with God for us, but I’m curious on your epiphany 🙂

[@michaelnelson8618]

@@janette499 what about the still small voice though? Direct speaking would be nice, but according to the book God does communicate to us at times ... according to the book ...

[@bathl]

​@@michaelnelson8618To me, the world seems to negotiate with each of our potentials. Through the cause and effect of our actions and consequences you will feel a sense of fulfillment when you're pursuing what's meaningful, and pain when you're not. I think it's useful to conceptualize that process as a personified entity, and it could fit some definitions for God.

[@TheDouglasDale]

This is the most important and profound things I've seen in a long time. Thank you!

[@Krentize]

My attention is wide open and enjoyed watching and learned a lot.

[@MariahRuthven]

This was brilliant, thank you both.

[@Sophie-P]

for anyone wondering, perspicacity means : the quality of having a ready insight into things; a certain shrewdness. - e.g. "With remarkable perspicacity, she quickly deciphered the intricate patterns within the data, revealing insights that eluded others" or "The detective's keen perspicacity helped him solve even the most complex mysteries by noticing important clues others missed."

[@griffinsdad9820]

I like how Peterson genuinely listens and tries to make every last person he interviews or is interviewed by, stronger. Even when it's hostile, he's trying to build up whoever's opposite him. Such a rare talent, gift, tool, whatever.

[@TheRedneckRabbi]

Awesome. Thank you for this one Mr Peterson, I needed this one today. Shalom and GOD bless.

[@hugovoisine2910]

I listened to his book "Never split the difference" almost 3 times on audible. Getting his ideas expressed in different words and applied to various situations was even better.

[@stephenphillips3883]

Been waiting for this conversation since I seen Mr Voss on Lex's podcast, excited to listen.

[@LittleBox87]

Did Lex get more out of him than JBP here?

[@davidkearney511]

2 absolute juggernauts!!! this is as good as conversation gets!

[@dolce9876]

Thank you for making my life more effective and meaningful

[@lukasriethmuller7446]

Excellent conversational, listening skills and writing style. Was a pleasure listening to the whole work of Mr. Voss. Have a great day and greetings from Leipzig (Germany).

[@ShadowlazeMusic]

Loved this talk, the amount of knowledge and game and information I was able to restructure, relearn or,or reapply to make it understand for myself so thank you the both of you, Dr.Peterson and Voss

[@lisachanelle7229]

Thank you for this conversation. With having a job interview yesterday and likely plenty more job interviews in the future as I'm nearing graduating university, this discussion has been immensely helpful. I'm still confused and uncertain about the career I want to pursue as I haven't yet discovered what work I think I would love or want to devote myself to , but I guess I am now just trying to make use of the opportunities presented to me based on my education and skills. So I wanted to express my gratitude to you as a young 20yr old woman for inspiring me and for your invaluable guidance in helping me navigate the world with greater wisdom , thanks for speaking truth and spreading useful knowledge, it's truly enlightening. I've been listening to you for years, and I don't know why but you seem to be more interesting to me than most things in the world, including my uni studies sometimes. I don't know what to make of it, but maybe I hope to find work or build a life that I find as engaging and interesting as your mind.

[@KennyRTemowo]

Wishing you all the best, Lisa.

[@almmason7]

Make sure to do many different jobs and or internships as early as possible. Maybe working for the government 1st. Gather different skills and work through where you've seen yourself as a younger person. If you like and are good at computer programming or business. Explore different jobs within the field while you're young but fine tune what you're passionate about and are good at in these areas. 😊

[@lisachanelle7229]

Thanks so much for the advice!@@almmason7

[@lisachanelle7229]

Thankyou, you as well@@KennyRTemowo

[@lisachanelle7229]

Thanks so much for your advice!@@almmason7

[@unpossible4349]

1:31:10 As a person who works in Product Management, Chris' point about goals really resonated with me.

[@wonder7798]

I'd like to hear from the other guy too. A back-and-forth conversation. I love Petersons' perception yet I love to hear his views bounce off of another

[@MsElishaCostello]

This video taught me to listen more and use the word “I” less by watching how this interview went between the two of these great speakers.

[@wwilliams4743]

Chris' book is one of the best I've read. Planning to re-read it to internalize more of the info.

[@UnTiltedN10]

This episode changed my life thank you

[@martinmckenzie8620]

So glad I came across this episode Dr Peterson, often times we have good intentions but have difficulty in articulating. I crushed my interview due to knowledge provided 🙏🏾

[@genefulm]

This is exactly what I needed to know. Thank you.

[@TheRulerRoderickSutton]

THE BOSS, Chris Voss.

[@HendrieBeats]

Now these two guys coming together is just incredible

[@tinytim71301]

Can’t wait to see Dr Peterson on tour in New Orleans.

[@jasperboicos]

Chris with the nailed label off the bat, “You’re paying close attention.” 🔥

[@AlonElishkov]

Excellent episode, thanks both!

[@kadeurbas7078]

I found this extremely helpful. Thank you!

[@YesIKnowHesADogNotABaby]

What a meeting of the minds. These are my two living heros in one show. Chris and Jordan, I wanna be like you gentlemen! I am 42 and on April 2nd I will attend my first day of college to become a crisis counselor. I have an application in with my our local 911 dispatch to build my skills. My undergrad work will be in psychology and I would like to minor in Spanish. It's because of the information I have learned from the two of you that I am choosing to seek my highest ability and be who God intends me to be. Thank you both, I love you!

[@KhalilSaddiq]

This is certainly a dream conversation! Great job daily wire for getting these two great minds together!

[@VladimirMinkin]

Looks like a frying. Hot, teaching. And what a clear mind of Dr. Peterson, wondrous!

[@irenapvp5365]

What a great conversation! I am going to watch it one more time.

[@MeganLynnBlanchard]

“Good to meet you sir” 😂 Chris Voss has been on Jordan’s podcast before!

[@biggSHNDO]

Well, mikhaila’s. Then they deleted it for some reason

[@andyvaldez4334]

Jordan was rude to him in that interview

[@dranreb1118]

​@@andyvaldez4334yes and i think his illness was largely to blame. He was just getting back tocthe scene at that time and i always hoped theyd do it again as that was my introduction to Chris and bought his book after that

[@gwm629]

It was a horrible podcast and honestly Jordan wasn’t the best host. I’m glad they got over that and are doing it properly this time.

[@dfgfdfdfgdgdfg1431]

@@andyvaldez4334 really, how?

[@Ryan-is-me]

Dr. Peterson! You scheduled your event in Salt Lake City at the exact time as the GOP caucus! Now I have to decide if I should participate in the caucus or attend your speech

[@iam1smiley1]

That's important ❤

[@micahstewart1254]

You know, it’ll be a good conversation when both of these guys are basically maxed out in their conversation and listening skills.

[@1ararose]

The podcast I didn’t know I needed 🙌❤️

[@UnboundImagination]

For the people who are annoyed that Jordan talks longer than guests. I notice that too and sometimes I also preferred to hear more from the guest. However, I am certain that Jordan does this podcast primarily for himself. Meaning that he is interested in laying out his vision of things in front of an expert and have it validated or critiqued. I have noticed that when the subject is something that he has really spent long thinking about he dominates the conversation and lays out these ideas that he has been developing. And when the subject is something he has only a basic understanding of he really lets the guest do majority of the talking. Case in point was Nuclear Fusion. I am just happy I get to listen to that conversation.

[@Christopherurich33]

Thank you again for the inspirational knowledge

[@cubic-h6041]

I remember interviewing for a job and I brought a series of printed images showing the types of engineering analysis I could do. We talked for a bit and I pulled out the papers and said, this is what I can do and this is what you say you need. Got the job immediately. This interview helped me understand why that worked so well.

[@grizzlyfray7355]

Fantastic! Thanks Doc you're the man!

[@peterschulz6379]

So timely! I began reading his book a week or so ago

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

Lol I have many interviews this week and next week. 😅😅 I'm taking notes.

[@badischerkieler1182]

which book?

[@Photik]

Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss ​@@badischerkieler1182

[@carolspencer6915]

Good morning Jordan and Chris Again super helpful. Truly timely indeed. Coming to accept, I cannot (not for the WANT of trying) to correct my employers ridiculous, dangerous decisions and lack of action! In short... Time to venture to pastures new, same and hopefully different. And right, for sure.😃 So much sensemaking. Thankyou kindly. 💜

[@CrackAddictz]

This is most certainly a masterpiece🙏

[@hillyfrom690]

Amazing conversation with grate important information 👌 Thank you Dr Peterson

[@davidsimos]

Thanks so much for this discussion. It is going to be immediately helpful in some discussions I will have with clients to find out their views of what will make a good collaboration and lead to an outcome that is longer lasting or quickly find out if the time is not right to work together. Once again thank you for advice that is reliable and proven over a long time, much appreciated.

[@user-hv7hk8bv3o]

I am taking Mr. Voss Master Class