(91)The Detroyat Class

In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Detroyat Class, as first seen in the FASA Manuals! I hope you enjoy!
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[@shininginshadows]

Please keep covering the FASA material. That's the biggest gap in my Trekkie experience and I enjoy the stories you craft around them

[@antwan1357]

first thing i thought of was the later Saber class . At least now I know what a TOS version of the Saber class looks like .

[@matthewmackrelle1091]

During my bit playing F.A.S.A's R.P.G. I used this class as a battle cruiser. I gave it a more full secondary hull, moved the nacelle's back a bit, added more phaser emitter's and torpedo tubes. Then renamed it the Athena class after the Greek goddess of combat. It was a fun ship.

[@kyleking284]

I like this ship the overall design can be made to serve a lot of purposes like a medical rescue ship that can transport huge numbers of injured people and it would be stocked with 20 to 30 special medical shuttles in case transporter interference but great job on this video very interesting as always👍🤓

[@jaspr1999]

I can see this ship existing in rescue recovery and rebuilding all too well as, today, there are many countries that have been attempting to have seagoing ships built to do the same thing. Although these attempts have been going on for decades I can see it eventually happening. Were it to actually happen it sure would give this backstory some serious historical clout. Man, thank you! It always puts a smile on my face to see these as you have a talent for weaving together a wonderful narrative. I hope you have a wonderful one!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

You're welcome Jaspr, and you liking the content I put out always puts a smile on MY face :) Take care!

[@harmab2]

I enjoyed it

[@billphillips5821]

I believe the first captain of a vessel of this class was Captain Dan Akroyd, a decendant of Dan Akroyd the actor who once played "Doctor Detroit" in a not-so-great comedy film in the 1980s.😁🖖🏼

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

LOL Ba doom tssss :P

[@Sketchschmidt]

that would be awesome and funny

[@Master0Chef]

I love your beta cannon! The refit for this class sounds like a ship I'd like to be on.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you so much :)

[@superginrai8036]

It’s great that you’re delving into the starships of FASA, and this is a terrific starting point. I’d love to see a video about the _Loknar_ class starship.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

As more starship models from FASA become available, Ill be able to dive in a LOT more :) Right now, no Loknar Class :(

[@superginrai8036]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Oh, very well. :P ;)

[@ericmadsen7470]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios The Detroyat class has got to be in Strange New Worlds along with ships that never made it in the OS.

[@franksmedley8619]

Hello TAS I find it interesting that you and I have had the same idea, but many decades apart. I used to play Star Fleet Battles back in the 80's and 90's. A friend supplied me with a chart for making changes to ships and their associated equipment and hulls. As well as Engines, Drives, Shields, etc. I took the Detroyat Class and expanded it's Secondary Hull by about 40%. I had a dozen such ships converted from their original specs and to my own specifications. Some of the changes... Twin fore and single aft torpedo launchers, doubling the number of fighter craft and pilots (as well as replacements), and the addition of small Industrial Fabricators. The Fabricators were there for making needed parts and spares, as well as providing (over time) enough parts and pre-fabbed structures to build replacement Fighters as needed. All of this did come at a cost though, and even with an upgraded Warp Core, no improved speed was possible. But, if one of my Detroyat ships got near an asteroid field, I could 'top off' anything needed in short order. Once I had the first dozen in service, I created a version that was like your 2nd build ships... mobile factories for colonies and such. I built well over 2 dozen over time, and especially thought I was clever in sending them to systems without habitable worlds to 'dredge' their asteroid fields to provide my Fleet with a source of supplies and parts that, to my enemies, seemed to come from nowhere. I suppose I could have used the standard Detroyat class ships for all this, but you know how it is... gotta 'tinker' with the designs!

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly wonderfully well done and very nicely informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided by you on the Detroyat Class, A job very fabulously well done indeed Sir!👌.

[@DR_X69]

Loved it. Let's get more FASA ships into Beta Canon. How about one on the Churchill class.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

One day, if I can, I will... Im limited by available access to 3D models... And currently Space Engine does not have that Particular one! But they are constantly adding more, so stay tuned :)

[@georgesulea]

I really like what you did here. I read that the Detroyat was a problematic and very disliked ship due to its structure and technical problems. But this really makes it into a valiant and cool class of ship. Thank you!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you so much George :)

[@theicmn]

Beautiful ship and nice rendering.

[@mrtotoro123]

Always nice to have a Monday morning video to watch. Thanks!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

My pleasure :)

[@chaseimler5258]

Fantastic bits of universe-buildong with these Beta-canon videos. Hope to see videos on the Typhon-class carrier and Abbe-class torpedo destroyer someday!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you, and probably one day you will :)

[@EugenioAngueira]

Another excellent video! Love the history you've created for this class ship!

[@Kiskaloo]

As a future possible follow-up to this video, you might consider the Menahga class Heavy Destroyer from Mastercom Data Center, which was a Movie-era design heavily influenced by the Detroyat Class (I believe it was an all-new class in-universe and not a refit of the Detroyat frames).

[@kaidenshepard8446]

Okay, from first glance in my head I saw a 23rd Century version of the Saber class starship with how the secondary hull looks and the boxy section at the back of the saucer - but that is what I immediately saw from first glance, another sort of inspiration for Starfleet engineers to take design aspects from for a quick and easy ship to build especially for war against the Borg and the Dominion in the 24th century. Another plus for me what I love in the 23rd Century ship designs are the spikes on the bussard collectors, I don't know why but I htink they look awesome on them. A ships class diesnt have to look as graceful as their top of their line starships, if it is able to carry out the job that the designers want it to do then the look isn't really that much of importance (except in some designs that can be seen as questionable). The decision of having the class going from a caarier starship to an outpost/starbase rebuild/repair vessel and constructor of new facilities in the expanding territory of the Federation that can defend itself as well, thats a great feat in itself. This is the first I am actually hearing or even seeing this class of vessel and it looks like a fun ship to serve on

[@LMG1792]

Love these different ships and love a lot of the fasa designs.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Glad you like them! :)

[@jase4929]

This class would go down great to rebuild the fleet or even utopia planetia after the sinth attack.. great video as always.

[@jamesmagill5433]

While I don’t like this starship design, I do love the history you created for this ugly duckling. Keep up the great work.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I will do my best :P

[@jeffhallam2004]

Unusual design.

[@mattsiede443]

I'd very much like to see a video on the fighters that the Federation fielded in that class. Or any other fighter class vessel in the Federation.

[@CRYOKnox]

I really love how you went creative on the background of this ship. I remember it seeing the FASA version once on a con in my hometown, as a teen. Sadly the con didn't survived the times but what i remember where a lot of Trek loving, model redesigning and kitbashing people discuss this ship. So this was a neat little allmost 20+ years throwback for me. :)

[@edwardpierre8114]

Thx David.. 🙏

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

You're welcome Edward...

[@kelvinh8327]

Good work! Good graphics and a well thought out back story🖖

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Glad you enjoyed it Kelvin! Thank you :)

[@digipeeper]

Another Ship that needed to be in the TOS series!!!

[@argusvondoom5676]

I love that your digging into the Fasa Ships, I loved a lot of those

[@grimreaper6557]

Awesome Video Love this carrier class ship, I have always wondered why StarFleet never seemed to developed the carrier it would have made sense. I do like how they reused this ship but I still think a carrier should have been obviouse specially when you look back at the dominion war they had to KitBash Carriers out of spare excellcior class ships . Thanks again for an awesome video. =)

[@COMMANDERHAWK22]

When everyone uses a primary weapon that can instapop any fighter do you really want to send fighters at them ? Starfleet only ever uses fighters when they are desperate.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

You're very welcome Mr Reaper ;)

[@sirjanin]

i think the uss shenzhou from star trek discovery could have been a detroyat class ship if the series had been in the TOS style both designs are quite similar though different the description that the shenzhou is an old ship but still works the it takes where they need it because it fits well with the detroyat class, due to its design of the bussard collector of warp engines it can be assumed that it began to be built more or less at the time when pike was in command of the enterprise, and considering that the series discovery is only 10 years before the original series, it could make sense what I say.

[@ryankirkpatrick959]

Oh wow, FASA!! I had so much fun with those games. I really dig your world building with these videos, especially the TOS based material. Thank you!

[@JessHull]

This is great. I love your well balanced and succinct world building you do for these beta cannon videos. If you're going to do Fasa ships have you considered the Andor class? Thats always been one of my favorite fasa ships.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Sadly, Im limited to the 3D models I have access too... Though I have an "in" with the Space Engine Model Creator, I still have to wait for classes to be added... Thus right now, No Andor Class! And thank you so much :)

[@DanBen07]

The boxy shaped secondary hull just reminds me of a cargo ship 1st seen in the animated series.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Indeed it does, you can see a clear Starship Lineage :)

[@DanBen07]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios 👍

[@randybentley2633]

Given the explosive growth of the Federation, one would think that new-build ships like this class would be built to take these 4 ships' place in the fleet...

[@timjerrom7173]

Adds more "Tri" canon to Trek, love it. Do like to hear more about the lower NCC's :) but if it's in the FASA manual would it not also be canon or do they have to appear on the show/movie's?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Canon, Also known as Alpha Canon is only that which is seen on screen in episode or movie form, branded as Trek by the owners of Trek. It's also the only thing that actually matters. Everything else, including Beta Canon, which is licensed material, have no weight in actual Star Trek lore :)

[@braderickson9996]

As soon as I saw this design, it made me recall the angular secondary hull, I first saw in the one-off magazine issue of Starship Design magazine, where the feature article was about Starfleet's attempt at a "battlecruiser" design that had several design issues, in the ST TMP design style. It was also referred in some tech books of the day, that no one seems to produce anymore. This is going back at least 20+, possibly 30 years ago. I'm not at home as I write this so, I can not refer to my archive. But, I'm sure there are some ST starship tech nerds out there that know what I'm talking about.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

Luv FASA, weird compared to modern stuff but takes me back to the SFC games a bit

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I love it too :)

[@Christophsys]

This ship reminds me of a bigger Centaur class. Or a modified Yorktown class from Star Trek Legacy.

[@miles2378]

Resembles the Saber class.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Yes I can see the lineage ;)

[@subgum3403]

Yes awesome love the stories about building block support ships. Daebalus ship itself

[@BirthquakeRecords]

Never even heard of this ship! Great video as always.

[@dominik8005]

Thank you very (Episode 199) Truth OR Myth BETA- The Detroyat Class

[@neves5083]

it would be great to have a playlist only with videos related to ships and others with TOS design

[@jexrabbit]

Great video, as always! Though I‘m not sure I really like either the Fasa or Franz Joseph designs. But I guess that has a lot to do with coming on.board more with TNG than with TOS…

[@CardboardSliver]

Can we someday get a video on Starfleet Fighters/Escort ships?

[@ussvoyager8650]

The Detroyat class is a really cool looking Starship a really amazing design

[@riccardogemme]

Well... this I had never heard of.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

SURPRISE!!!!

[@adwol48]

I look at this ship and just think this is the sabre classes great grandfather

[@TroySeward]

This would make a cool ship in STO.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Indeed it would, though I doubt they'd purchase the rights to use it!

[@Carrierbuilder406]

I never see the ships of Star Fleet and the ships of Discovery ever being in the same universe. They are just so different in design to me. I do like how you fill in their histories with these vids. That is the good about these, but the disco ships are the bad in these.

[@TerryDanley]

Had some paper “blueprints” of the Detroyat I ordered in the early-mid 80s. Still have em!

[@procyon6370]

Wow, this is really like a TOS Shenzhou.

[@DamienDrake2940]

Quick question for Mr Tri. When you list the stats for these classic ships do you use the warp standard of the time or the new TNG standard?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Yes, Warp Scale of the time!

[@JaredLS10]

Im a big fan of the invisible impulse engines.

[@The1ReviewBoard]

You should cover the Soyuz class too. Nice vid

[@jbaker389]

I remember a.similar class based on the Excelsior Class called the Ingram Class I think

[@rueceless7580]

"Has been rendered incorrect" - That's a really nice way of saying modern trek botched the four years war adaptation badly. ; D Loved the video, glad to see FASA ships continue to get the attention and love they deserve, but am I crazy or is the Detroyat class lacking an impulse drive? I dont have any of the old books anymore sadly to cross check. : (

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

LOL no Rue, it's not :P I respect both Beta and Alpha Canon, but Alpha Canon gets priority... There was no botching occurring, merely the actual owners of the IP made a different history canon! :P And of course it has an Impulse Drive :P Just the creator of the model seems to have forgotten to include it ;)

[@rueceless7580]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I grew up playing fasa trek along side dnd as a young 'in so I admit I have a bias toward the four years war so was not a giant fan of the one year war story arc (mostly because we barely got to see much of it and it kind came off as an after thought in Disco season 1).

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I most definitely understand the feeling in regards to Head Canon :)

[@GoodOldGamer]

I feel like it wouldn't be that hard for Starfleet engineers to slap on a curvy outer hull to appeal to Command and sell more ships, lol. I know you gotta keep to the original design, but I always wonder where these ideas come from in universe. You wouldn't deviate so much from the fleet aesthetic like that. It always makes ships like the Oberth and Steamrunner really look like the odd ones out compared to everything else.

[@arko09]

Time index 1:28 - thank you for explaining the name. It always seemed weird to me and googling didn't yield the history of the Frenchman.

[@celiashaw9767]

ty David...nice..

[@daviddyster4145]

I think some one in starfleet was a Star Wars fan.

[@davidmckendry4491]

Thanks David for your contribution and support of this channel.

[@johnmogavero8156]

I never knew about that extra heavy phaser

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

personally in my headcannon i like to think that both the 4 years war and the war in DISCO happened. after all picard states that there was decades of war with the klingons. and the two wars a depicted very differently. no one can accuse of the klingons doing the same thing twice.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Of course head canon is great, I also have my own... But of course, Canon itself shows us the 4 Years War didnt happen... So as long as we know our Head Canon is Meaningless its ALL good :)

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios aye its great to see you give these old gems the recognition they deserve.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I really love starship designs, as Im sure you know, So I absolutely LOVE making these particular videos :)

[@Mastert3318]

Hello! I have to say that I love your Truth or Myth series and I was wondering if I could make a ship suggestion? I would like to suggest an alternate design of the Constitution class from the 2009 movie. The design is known as the "Kelvinprise". It's basically a version of the Constitution class that has the design aesthetic of the Kelvin and the rest of the fleet. I have found a few images of it online and I also have a resin model kit of it if you need pictures of it. I think the lore for it could be similar to what you did for the TOS Constitution class. Where the original USS Constitution was completed before the Enterprise but it didn't have the advancements in technology that the Enterprise had.

[@NivekH420]

Reminds me of the saber class

[@ashotinthedark3182]

BSG has one the best space aircraft carriers,next would be the B5 space station.

[@gaxiola1701]

FASA had some really great ship designs. They also had some bonkers looking originals and kit bashes that made no sense but you could cherry pick good looking fleets across all the factions.

[@mihaelsubert9081]

I'd like to see something about the Mitannic/M'nahga Class

[@jayburgh]

I like this, I like this a lot.

[@HalferLandPerformance]

I like it.. never heard of it, bui I like it LOL

[@pdbouie]

800 crew?? Wth!!! That's a buttload of Klingons!!😂🤣😂🤣 Wait they sent 50 Ktinga's to fight Vger, then sent just 3 more? If 50 didnt stop Vger, what was three more going to do? Stupid Klingons Kahless would be so sad to see your brains turned to gahg!!

[@stevenwells157]

👍👍🖖

[@traviswebb7585]

Do the Norway class

[@timbenjaminsr8946]

So this ship could also be called Detroit class lol

[@robertwhatley9861]

Very intresting. I like the concept, but it just looks unfinished to me. Guess its the boxyness.

[@mattwilson8298]

I didn't see any impulse engines.

[@THCMusicBlog]

can you make a playlist of all the star trek starship episodes??

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

There already is... Under my Playlists Section... kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2a3hXVjZqt5pNU&ab_channel=TriAngulumAudioStudios

[@THCMusicBlog]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios oh thank you! i didn't see that when i checked for some reason

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

All good! Though Id skip the first chunk of my earlier videos, as I was just learning back then, and they arent the best ;) :P

[@Wyrmshadow]

I always misread the name as Destroyat.

[@BirthquakeRecords]

* chants * DAVID! DAVID! DAVID! DAVID! DAVID! DAVID! DAVID! DAVID! 🎉🎉🎉

[@SquirrelT3ch]

this class looks like the uss ariess from axanar!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

LOL not really, but I wouldnt be surprised if they "took" visual cues from this class :)

[@SquirrelT3ch]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios same shape but this ship has more of an under belly. Take this ship and lose a lot of its bulk and you have the ship I'm referring too. But its a good video!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you... And the same could be said about a LOT of classes seen in both Alpha and Beta Canon... So you'd have to talk to them about where They "got" their inspiration for the Ares Fan Fiction design... It could be this class, as it's been around for about 4 decades... But only they would actually know!

[@bennyfisher9157]

Did you get the chance to read my question in the last video?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I did, but I dont usually reply to any comments on my Beauty Shots videos as I tend to use those release dates to work my real job, and take some time away... Besides, I didnt see how your question had anything to do with the video that was released...

[@dsc4178]

Seems to be quite flat saucered and undefined a bit. But not all can be winners.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I kind of like it tbh!

[@Cauin450]

How big are those actual windows compared to a person, TriAngulum?

[@jasongalley604]

um...how does this thing move sub-light? There are NO impulse engines or anything else to move it...

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Sorry, you are incorrect, there ARE Impulse Engines!

[@johngreenjr8556]

200ish by 100 something meters?? That's not very big for a star ship. Maybe a runabout...

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Huh, that's pretty big actually, the TOS Enterprise was only 288 meters long... The Runabout is only 23 meters long...

[@incogni-bro8276]

Actually it would around the size of the Raven as it was seen in Voyager.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

@Incogni-Bro The Raven was only (depending on the source) 90-105 Meters long... So it would be twice or more it's length...

[@e.hellbrand9707]

Man Cant Have SHIT in Detroyat