Sea Men Demon | F3H-2

[@_Joob]

I really missed the opportunity to call this video “The Seamen Demon”

[@TheWind5urfer]

Please play the F104J...I have no idea how to stay alive in that thing.

[@DasVryst]

Jooby seaman.

[@zhanglihussey8222]

@@TheWind5urferstay fast?

[@TheWind5urfer]

@@zhanglihussey8222 I mostly mean avoiding rockets since you don't have flares and can't pull a lot

[@OllieRy321]

@@TheWind5urfer ​​⁠ @Dart-One would like to disagree with you. Bro dodged R-60s with the F-104

[@DEFYN]

Nah you should've Now I won't have to anymore :)

[@cageknight6634]

DEFYN WHEN DEMOOOON VIDO

[@kiki7170]

F3H video when?

[@limer.6355]

hows TEC´s mob going?

[@_Joob]

Ur welcome

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

Suffering is best with a friend :)

[@MandaCoster]

"I'm a fan of weird looking things"

[@OumuamuaOumuamua]

When he said it was “joobelin time” was honestly the peak moment of this film

[@ForceOfChaos1776]

“Its joobelin now” 😂

[@DasVryst]

Joob used joob missles and joobed all over his jooblets and jooblings

[@nine-0991]

Truly a joob of all time

[@bypasslunaticsblade9226]

For anyone trying to use the sparrows: you will want to get someone that isn’t paying attention or someone that isn’t aware of the sparrows the demon gets. Best launch distance tends to be between 5 miles and 2 miles in head ons, you can be a little closer when launching from the rear

[@hughjazz7672]

I'm worried that Joob is going to go insane because of the snail

[@batlax18]

13:11 my opinion on the R73, perfectly put into words

[@cutthroat795]

I love this plane and it finally got room to breathe with the br changes.

[@Vogelchen]

This is my most flown US plane and I often run 4 Aim-7. Dont get a lot of kills with them but its funny when I do.

[@Onionrings09]

"you bleed speed so fast" welcome to the us tech tree. we have the p47, f2, f4f, sbd3, and other absolute bricks of aviation.

[@rquintal13]

That last death is just so emblematic of this game as a whole

[@PzIV-E]

This is actually my favorite plane in the game and my most consistent for getting aces. With the slats down it can swing the nose around very quick to throw a 9b at somebody. The four 9bs are almost guaranteed kills if you play it right, and you might be able to get a few gun kills too. The only bad thing is that the acceleration and energy retention are non existent.

[@jaek_898]

This is such a cool plane, reminds me of a squid for some reason

[@_Joob]

Squidward

[@shadowninjaultimatum4000]

"uptiers are rough" yes thats the case for literally every vehicle in the game, you get uptiered you are at a distinct disadvantage

[@_Joob]

Well, yeah. Just especially so because this plane is quite bad even at it’s own BR. If I were in say, a p39n for example, uptiers aren’t bad, because the plane is still very very good in an uptier.

[@no-legjohnny3691]

The F3H in an up tier faces missiles it can't dodge or flare that can target it from any direction, so if someone launches one you can kiss your ass goodbye. The already useless aim-9bs become worthless thanks to how fast and how many countermeasures every plane gets. And the speed is BAD thanks to it being a large airframe with only one engine. It's like a Lim-5P was given 4 crappy missiles and was forced to face 10.3s every match

[@loicalex]

that may seem weird but this plane kinda work if youre being extremely aggressive. It bleeds speed but turns well enough to get tons of lead shots. love those guns

[@Chastity_Belt]

AIM-7C/D have burn time of 2 seconds, it means you need to launch it no further than 2-2.5km, depending on your speed, enemy speed and direction. For comparison, AIM-9L have burn time 5.5s, AIM-9B and R-3S - 2.2s. Basically, AIM-7C is just an all-aspect AIM-9B.

[@malcolmmorris3947]

Actually it's worse than a 9b, this has 0g pull while burning and then slowly increases after that. It gets to 10g a little after 3 seconds from launch. It technically gets 15g at ~4.5 seconds but at that distance you need them to be afk to hit anyway.

[@XplodePlayz4]

This is one of my favorite planes in the game. i like "bad" aircraft, and this one is so bad it becomes good again. I would much rather have the F3H than the F100 by far

[@_Joob]

Well to be fair the f100 kinda sucks too lol

[@Bvrntfaceman08]

I grinded through this thing recently catching up after years of not playing. No exp in jets past the cl13 vs mig 17 vs f86 f2 era. This was NOT the jet to learn how to use sarh missles for sure.

[@Brzzzyexe]

the f3h is one of my favorite planes, but it fighting r-60's and 9-ls without countermeasures is vile, it used to be so good and now it's stuck in purgatory

[@Akhaaelikian]

The F3H actually has some pretty good performance if you dont weight yourself down with missles, i usually take just two 9Bs and it can clap just about anything in a secluded 1v1. The frustration comes from trying to engage in a matchmaker where half the enemy team can click a 30g missle at you, make you lose all your speed trying to dodge, and then click their second 30g missle that you cant dodge anymore. Premium missle jets have ruined the entire br bracket

[@icebox829]

It’s not even good in a 1V1. You have to be a much better player than the other guy to win. You can out turn stuff but you’ll bleed almost all your energy. Slow af😊

[@Akhaaelikian]

@@icebox829 only subsonics beat you in energy retention but they suck compared to you at energy generation. You climb 1 minute and can dive on any sub from a vantage point, from there you outturn with combat flaps almost anything. If you miss your angle you can float behind them until the opportunity to leave arises, If they run from you you'll just catch them

[@YouvBeenThumped]

I like how its like your pilot will just voluntarily sit in a falling plane and not punch out do to the fear of dying... Great mechanic Gaijin.....

[@mavislenya1110]

It's great at 9.3 squadron battles and sim battles. the flaps make it very good at turning for like 1 turn. Btw using primary weapons you can fire 2 cannons only and save ammo.

[@j100j]

As a sweden player, I feel like the demon is just the plane for me. I like the struggle of getting all the swedish jets until the J32B with the SK60 and the saab105G by primarily playing them as fighters. I love having to go against Su-25s and A-10s in the J32B: living in constant fear of getting all aspect missiled. The demon just seems like a plane for me.

[@charisardmegax]

"When to fire the aim-7C" - That's the neat part, you don't. 4 9B's are better. But honestly this thing is more or less exclusively a gunfighter.

[@OumuamuaOumuamua]

The aim9c takes too long to start pulling, and often cant pull enough, so its likes a missile thats completely useless. Just find that a little interesting

[@onlyhereformoney175]

it seems that rockets or atleast FFARs don't work as well as flares now, had the same issue with the F-4C

[@ForceOfChaos1776]

5:59 flew my first 2 or three flights and clicked this video. just got this bad boy today after a week or two. It sure does bleed a lot of speed it seems but the missles are gonna be fun :)))

[@sirius_solaris]

flat-spin missile shots are the bane of my existence above 10.0. BR. Just today had a game in my F-15, severe damaged a 15J, flat spin, on fire, tail ripped off and he's literally a second from hitting the ground... Fires off an AAM3 SOMEHOW and managed to curve it over the hill i went past and smack me in the back the SECOND i took my eyes off him. Knew it was coming and simply cause i didn't look at him for that last FUCKING second, i get punished.

[@thatoneguy1741]

Never take your eyes off the enemy till you know they’re dead

[@iimasheriiol222]

Mhm if that was any jet with an hmd you probably would’ve been screwed a lot sooner

[@JustSebi_]

Guys we are joobeling

[@ping-bi3dm]

You weren't punished for winning the fight, you were punished for letting your guard down, skill issue.

[@ogboyy7493]

@_Joob you can use the combat flaps (slats) to stop yourself from bleeding speed at high speeds but it tanks your turn rate (only at high speeds beyond around 700-800km/h)

[@matthewsherwood7278]

Back before this thing faced 30G missiles, it was one of my most liked planes tbh. Since they added the A-10 and Su-25, I won't touch it at all, really.

[@drumbum353]

This is currently my highest plane. All I ever see is premium A-10s and F-5s getting down tiered to me and getting down tiered to me and killing me with missiles or they die to my guns. It’s pretty annoying.

[@wrenchinator9715]

During the Vietnam War, the USA conducted Operation Feather Duster to test tactics supersonic planes could use against the subsonic Mig-17 that kept causing pilots issues. They ran the test with the F-86 standing in for the Mig against the F-100 and F-105. One pilot said during the tests "In any envelope except nose down and full throttle, either the F-100 or F-105 was inferior to the F-86H in a dogfight." I think that speaks a lot to why the F3H struggles. Against the higher tier and faster opponents it can't keep up at full throttle. Against the lower tier and more maneuverable opponents it can't keep up in a turn. It's stuck in an ugly middle position where it really can't do either thing.

[@no-legjohnny3691]

The F3H is actually INCREDIBLY agile for an aircraft of its size. I once found myself in a dogfight in one playing the MiG-17 and the dude actually managed to outturn me despite my using flaps and such. The two main problems with the Demon is that it has relatively low acceleration and faces jets that have all-aspect 30g missiles. Basically, it's only "bad" because of Gaijin's r€t@rded BR compression.

[@wrenchinator9715]

@@no-legjohnny3691 I'll chalk this up to not being spaded in it yet then. I've been struggling in dogfights and getting my nose on target with it.

[@SkelliSnek]

5:32 that's me in the enemy Lightning up in space :D

[@SnotRocket6515]

No shot

[@blackhoodedkid]

I wish Gaijin would fix the centering of the cockpit of this plane having the cockpit not centered properly is annoying but Gaijin probably has no clue about it and wont even bother to fix it

[@popupthetf2maniac]

tbh i kinda liked the demon i only used 9b i also flew the f4c and the demon is just so much more managable than f4c

[@thatcarguydom266]

F-4C is actually capable of being fun if you aren’t constantly uptiered to 11.0 games, while this thing is bad no matter what you get. At least the F-4C is fun in a full downtier

[@Akhaaelikian]

​@@thatcarguydom266are you kidding me? The F3H completely clowns on anything in a downtier except for other 9.3s. Its way faster, climbs way better and actually even outturns almost every pre-missle jet you will find. The real issue for this plane is trying to engage anything when you dont have flares and half of the enemy team is shitmobiles with 30g missles

[@thatcarguydom266]

@@Akhaaelikian the cope is real

[@Akhaaelikian]

@@thatcarguydom266 defyn said it himself in his 3 year old video on it (flight performance didnt change). Its fast, turns really well, rolls well, doesnt compress and the guns are lethal and easy to use. The big issue is being third partied, 1v1 it claps just about any subsonic short of a sagittario

[@popupthetf2maniac]

@@Akhaaelikian i did get a downtier and i was the only one downtiered + it was an ace match and i was running 3 9b's with 1 7c i actually got a head on kill with that 7c

[@randomrandomnesss2188]

I remember this thing was really good when it first came out and the deadliest missile on the game was an AIM-9E

[@Mohammed-s9g1f]

The F3H-2 actually is a decent jet in sim .( Don't use the aim 7c)

[@medul8039]

it was peak cinima when Joob joobed all over the screen

[@Maktumekal_Ilzrei]

AHh the Demon. Baby's First Phantom

[@evangalinsky2499]

I miss when this thing was introduced. Was really good. General Lee actually killed me in it once.

[@KjllShot]

This is the single most frustrating jet i own, im a usa main but just recently grinded the russian tree to get the su and mig 29, i used the premium mig21s to grind most the tree and i feel like the mig21s is exactly what i always wanted the f3 to be, so it only made it worse going back to the us tree after playing a couple weeks of ussr, and i can absolutely confirm, Russian bias is proper real, I've never had such an easy time grinding then grinding the ussr it's really ruined me for going back to US jets again 😂

[@DevynDaBeast]

I know what's coming and I still stan the demon. Hard.

[@gabrielm.6987]

It helps to turn your engine off with no flares when they are spinning like that and coast away

[@Burgner68]

I kinda needed to know how this thing performs so thanks

[@MrBlueBurd0451]

I used this thing near-exclusively by hauling FFARs to a base, killing that base, and then going dogfighting, using 9Bs as you use 9Bs. It was actually very... Tolerable in that way.

[@Minigun_-nj1tf]

Domain Expansion, Joobing.

[@reaper.f54u]

God, every time I see somebody play this thing I get flashbacks. I made the mistake of deciding to play it for over 30 missions straight because I wanted to use it to grind a Sabre for some reason.

[@scaniadan2968]

My pc has been broken for a year and I haven't been able to play this game and I miss it

[@quan-uo5ws]

At this point just buy a new pc, this game can run othe cheapest pcs

[@scaniadan2968]

@@quan-uo5ws I'm too poor for that even

[@BufferThunder]

@@scaniadan2968 get a ps5, thats what i use. The newer version with no disk drive is like 450 dollars. Game runs like a dream on it.

[@quan-uo5ws]

@@scaniadan2968 Bruh just sell scrap metal and bottles you find on the ground for a month or two and buy some cheap ass third hand pc

[@_Joob]

U can fix it, u got this

[@Kozacc]

skill issue the f2h2 is unironically a great multirole with plenty of ammo for its easy to use cannons and aim9bs that if you know how to use are really useful for some positions when an enemy is escaping gun range. id never take out rockets though because it has phantom levels of flailing around- missiles just fly past you if you time it right. 7Cs are unironically crap though, thats 100% true like seriously a terrible missile. i never usually find a youtuber calling a plane ive had great experience with bad, so i lept at the chance to say uhm acthually. carrying rockets is a good idea but not necessary- only against r60s and the stray a5 magic 1. i usually carried 4x9bs and i treated it like a fighter- that first engagement being the most important because youd wanna force them into the fight since youve not got the best turnrate of the br- though its not terrible and easy to capitalise on others mistakes- i still wouldnt rely on it. i dont watch joob often so i dont know if his thing is using every part of an aircraft and defining whether its good or not on how well it plays all the roles it should in theory be able to play- but if he doesnt do that, please do this again without attempting to use the 7cs pls i luv the demon 3x

[@roulejj1342]

I was able to get this plane in a ground arcade match when I called air support, I thought it wasn't that bad for the minute I used it

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

>Arcade > A minute of use Yeah, you definitely can't pass judgement on it with those factors.lol

[@darbray7948]

The Javelin has had a flight model update this patch. It now holds energy much better than before, you should try it. The missiles are still bad though, still overcorrecting themselves and being unstable within about 1km.

[@EclipseGaming121]

when it comes to the AIM-7C when I use the penguin I use the missiles on someone thats stalling out or clueless. you've already noticed that the radar isnt really that good and the AIM-7C's..... well they are a thing alright so the best way to use them is like how I mentioned earlier.

[@kkang2828]

Do you think you could make videos on the VG.33, P-43, J 22, D.500/501/510, Re.2000/2002, and/or Fokker D.XXI? They're real hidden low tier gems (imo) that none of the CCs seem to cover.

[@0GTXR]

Try the Br.693

[@Grekos26]

Hello Original Gaijooble

[@DylanHaynes-y9n]

Yo Joob / anyone, I'm about to grind rank V in the US air tech tree, what should be my first jet between the f-80, f-84, or f2h?

[@exoticbreadstick8661]

idk i personally loved the demon. Its one of my top favorite planes in the naval line so far, but i havnt reached the f-14s yet.

[@LarySeeAircraft]

The aim7C does not start pulling till after the motor runs out, personally I have never gotten a kill with it ever

[@razvy6949]

I genuinely thought the thumbnail was meme, an edited phantom 😂😂😂

[@SorcererAC0]

5:54 That gun roll was zest

[@roketsnail34]

I feel like you should use the sparrows like a cheap all aspect missile ( in head ons )

[@bt_the_yank6234]

The sparrows arent even worth taking lol.

[@AidanHaynes-bd3tc]

I don't know if you take video suggestions, but I think you should play the vatour IIn late l, it's a French radar missile slinging brick of fun :D

[@SearchNProsperOriginal]

And on this day! I became a JOOBLET!!!! I feel weird saying that lnao

[@Zucn123]

I grinded this plane mainly through sim cause its actually somewhat avg there

[@Bf109F-4lover]

Hey Joob what is better?1 year premium account or Germany top tier premium jet? (I have now 1 rank 6 plane at Germany)

[@miksim494]

I personally like this plane ita not the best but you can both dogfight for some time and you can use it as a bomber with its rockets

[@郭明煌-z4b]

這是我目前正在駕駛的戰鬥機 另外F100也是很常駕駛 A4攻擊機也是

[@major_kukri2430]

Mig 19: nah, i'd spin

[@ImNotReal800]

First video I caught that just got posted 2 minutes ago

[@crad5476]

Actually a good plane. Like to play it.

[@sapiensiski]

Its not good lmfao

[@reinni2968]

​@@sapiensiskiits not bad though

[@sparkling925]

its okay to like bad stuff but dont call it good

[@sapiensiski]

@@reinni2968 pretty damn bad compared to other US 9.3 planes. Accelerates slower than a bomber lmfao

[@reinni2968]

@@sapiensiski Low speed acceleration is pretty bad but its get better at mid and high speeds

[@akthethotboi9711]

That plane has super op guns the radar is so bad and the missiles are usless

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

Good lord why would you take the AIM-7s…

[@EvilEndz]

I've had more success with the AIM 7C at higher altitudes launching at over 10km (if you can get the crappy radar to lock), it takes awhile after leaving the rail before it starts to track properly so short range launches are a waste of time. Zero point trying to lock if you're down low.

[@cristianperin5874]

I really like the demon is a good dogfighter and has great low speed control but the energy retention and the missiles are so trash

[@csii6478]

I never got a kill with the sparrow either

[@Certified_Dude]

You play it NOW after I already grinded my way past it????????

[@no1ce84]

play the ariete

[@obeseufo3707]

airplane spookston

[@northythefosk7501]

Not sure if you have but you def need to play the mirage 2k5f or the 4k both are spooky good

[@_Joob]

I tried getting some footage for a video with the m4k because of the magic 2 buffs but I was straight up having an awful time. Need some top tier reps because I SUCK at it at the moment.

[@northythefosk7501]

@@_Joob the secret is bleed your speed and lurk low. It can be shockingly stealthy they both need to played like ambush fighters because as soon as you can get behind someone is basically a guaranteed kill. Also never bring the drop the tanks 30-32 minutes of fuel is plenty

[@jeremybrewer6905]

So it's not just me this jet does stuck

[@aybaer3668]

I made a couple of tutorials for this plane. My conclusion was that you shouldnt play it

[@kingghidorah8106]

hello Joobus how do you screenshot the game in a way it looks like a panning shot?

[@_Joob]

The thumbnail? I photoshop it. Separate plane as a layer, brighten it up, motion blur background.

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@_Joob oh that makes sense, i thought it was some sort of third party screenshot app (not ansel) thank you! (also having white or colorful skins for the planes really helps with selections), your video and photo editing skillz are good

[@unlink1649]

Bad missiles are worse than no missiles

[@AdexPro...not_so_much]

Bro that magic 1 :,(

[@wafflefrfr]

keep playing the pain deltas, play the Mirage IIIE

[@DogMan077]

I love this plane

[@JayPex100]

Is it the yt with fps drops or the actual game?

[@_Joob]

It was my recording software, I’ve since fixed it but I recorded this like a week and half ago

[@JayPex100]

@_Joob im like looking at your fps, looking at my yt app, hmm whats going on 😅😅

[@m.a.6020]

I’m watching this mute and skipping around a bit, so I don’t know if you figured it out, but the reason you can’t fire rockets as a flare is because you’re using the weapon selector, you need to either deactivate the weapon selector, or change the selector to your rockets

[@richardcreasey9319]

The ONLY use-case I could find for the aim-7C was using it on strike drones in GRB, but they got their BR increased, so the 7C is straight up one of the worst missiles in the game. I legitimately don't know why this thing is 9.3. It's not particularly fast, and loses all of it's speed in a turn. It has no flares. It's missiles are objectively terrible. It's payload options don't really stand out to me, even compared to planes in comparable roles to it that are at or around its BR. I don't think it would become OP if it's BR was lowered since there's a metric ton of 8.3 and 8.7 missile carriers that 8.0s already face anyway.

[@chriscestero]

Y no outro joob

[@_Joob]

I keep saying I’m gonna make a new one in 1440p but I’m silly and haven’t done it D:

[@chriscestero]

@@_Joob nah none of that, outro is already sick, plus the style art makes the resolution sort of irrelevant imo

[@Jaeger_89]

AIM-7C is the worst missile in the game, probably. This thing fares a bit better with the 4 9Bs...

[@LastGoatKnight]

Someone tell me how this is: I play with 5.0 props and suffer for one kill in every 5th match, even in Arcade. Then I use the F-104 for one minute in assault Ground arcade and I instatnly get 3 air kills and two BMP kills. Yes, I talk about bot kills here primarily because I can't use the Starfighter because I didn't went there in any tech tree yet (and the Japan tree is my highest in BR, which is 5.3) I have a lot of experience with Japanese fighters yet my first spin in an F-104 is easily way better? Is this a Gaijin/game problem or I am it? Dogfighting in a Starfighter was/is impossible as far as I know (in real life) so How come?😅 Please, someone let me know

[@djendjendjendjendjen9442]

You were fighting bots that’s why it was easier

[@charisardmegax]

Because the AI aircraft in ground assault don't fight back. In actual pvp most people consider a significant number of the f-104 variants free kills. Learning to be competitive in air just takes time, one of the ways I recommend to learn is to watch videos of people who are already comfortable with the aircraft, (Joob is generally a good option for this as is Defyn) and just watch them and how they play, then take some of their strategies and maneuvers and adapt them so that they fit into your own way of flying.

[@mr.abrams9885]

If you're doing requests how about you go fly in the F7F tigercat just for lols

[@ForceOfChaos1776]

I’ll trade for those pin ups and decals bro freaking niceee duddeee

[@timharnans]

Hi Joob, how’s your day going?

[@locaog4mesyoutube612]

The sad thing about is that it isn't 9.0, which it should be. It is not a 9.3 airframe, and almost every match i've ever been on it, full uptier to 10.3, facing F-5Cs and such. If it was 9.0, it would be a perfectly balanced plane

[@thatcarguydom266]

I think the F-100 is in a similar situation as well

[@imaginewinning5679]

Mini Phantom :>

[@vauxcorsa]

it’s great in sim