A Better Steam Deck Experience - XREAL Air 2

[@FanTheDeck]

XREAL Air 2 are a great companion to the Steam Deck. Here's why. 1.) Order links for the XREAL Air 2: - US: amzn.to/48hg7Qo - UK: amzn.to/3Nq8ZJx 2.) Order links for the XREAL Air 2 Pro: - US: amzn.to/48eDES2 - UK: amzn.to/41nMfiP

[@Nobe_Oddy]

I wisgh you would have mentioned the price in the video..... Now I gotta go to amazon and look, which is a pain... BUT at least this way they will know that you're viewers are interested in the Air 2 (which I am :D )

[@FanTheDeck]

​@@Nobe_Oddy Ah I'm really sorry about that!

[@hasnainsoofi8088]

Great video

[@jonnydent825]

Excellent job with the disclosures. Much appreciated.

[@FanTheDeck]

Thanks johnny!

[@gazz5998]

The only reason i haven't got them already is the price. This is an accessory that costs more than the 256GB LCD steam deck. If it was 40% less, I'd probably pick them up.

[@FanTheDeck]

That's fair, of course.

[@flamingscar5263]

Tbf, it's early days for AR, all new tech has that period between 1 and 5 years where it's expensive then it rapidly drops in price The steam deck itself is a perfect example, handheld gaming PCs are nothing new, companies like GPD have been around for years, but the steam deck is the first affordable one

[@finraziel]

Agreed, it's just a tad too expensive for something I'm not entirely sure I would use an awful lot yet. Let it mature a few years and maybe get a bit cheaper, I might try it. When playing at home though I think I would prefer playing on a PC or console with this hooked up to it because they will be better able to drive the resolution and holding a regular controller will be better than the steam deck which is still pretty heavy. Of course, if you're not home then pairing it with a deck would be awesome.

[@zZiL341yRj736]

How are you gonna compare a crappy 800p LCD screen from the Steamdeck to this. Yes it's expensive because the screen technology.

[@evshrug]

To be fair, I also haven’t bought them because I can’t afford them yet. I’m trying to find a second job or a new job 😅 But that said, my OLED TV was $1200. It’s a great TV, love it, but it’s not quite big enough to competitively play videogames, so I have to sit on the edge of my ottoman (and get a sore back) when I’m gaming, and there’s also the issue of my wife starting to watch something first. This wouldn’t be a 4k screen, but it is OLED. High refresh. It’s a high performance screen, even before paying for the miniaturization. I think the view-filling “size” and portability are major plus points for it. So, yeah, maybe the Steam Deck costs less, but for a wearable OLED TV I think the price is fair here. I just wish I had enough money after bills to save up for it 😅

[@Silverjerk]

I sincerely appreciate the transparency and the honest informational video. I wish more creators made videos like these and that they were also candid and open with the relationship between the product and their content. As I’m currently looking into purchasing the Xreal Pros, I was able to take good information away from the video and use that to make an informed decision, without having to worry about surreptitious bias and underhanded sales tactics. One of the reasons this is one of my favorite Deck-based channels on the platform.

[@FanTheDeck]

Wow I really appreciate those words Silver! I'm glad I was able to help.

[@shuflie]

We have an 85" TV in the living room that we sit around 4m or 13 feet away from. When I looked through the X-Real Air 2 at the TV with the screens on, but in low brightness mode, the apparent screen size dwarfed the TV taking up a much larger area of the wall than the real TV. Not exactly sure if it would be 130", but I could well believe that it is.

[@simsoThe2nd]

While I've watched over 15 reviews of these glasses, you are the only one that stayed respectful while mentioning your spouse. I appreciate that 👏

[@Saviorsrdenver]

As a user of the Air 1, I will point out that there are a few Y-splitters out there that'll let you pass through power to the SD and video to the glasses. No reason they wouldn't work with the upgrade, and while it's an extra bit on the setup, if you're gonna be sitting long enough for full discharge to be an issue you've probably got enough time at some point to add in the cable to hooking up a battery/power supply.

[@Voidward]

I was almost certain I'd pick up a pair of these eventually, but the steam deck OLED display has been so satisfactory that I don't see it happening anymore. Valve did too good of a job.

[@systoxity]

I have both, never use the glasses any more. They’re too much hassle.

[@rik4071]

There is an adapter that lets you charge the steam deck and use the xtreal air glasses at the same time. I have it. It looks like a USB-C splitter. 1 USB-C plug, into a very small box and 2 USB-C ports on the other side. It works great. The only problem is the Nreal Beam while very slowly charges it will still only last its battery life. The other problem I have with my Nreal Air is when the Steam Deck gets to 30% battery the Air glasses goes blank. So if your using a battery hungry game you only have until the Steam Deck reached 30% then its black from there on. So this power adapter is a game changer. I have a battery pack that charges the Steam Deck even while playing so I plug that into the power side of the adapter then I can play for hours. Well, until my eyes get sore and when the glasses start to heat up. Its not really hot but its enough heat in your eye area to make you stop playing and take a long break. And the Xreal Air do have 3D in some very limited situations. I can get a 3D game on the Steam Deck to play but its a really buggy situation to be in. You cant see 3D in normal comfortable mode, you have to move the glasses into a different position and the 3D screen is really small. If the normal screen is 130' then the 3D screen is about 60' but its smaller and at the same position so its really hard to see. Yea its 3D but just not worth it. And Xreal have been updating the glasses and now its even harder to get into 3D mode. Before you could hold a button but they removed that option. That button press now only works on the Steam Deck, it wont work on Switch or my Samsung Note 9 phone (which is not actually supported. The supported phones are about 5) I can write my own review which I pretty much have here. But this is only a little bit of my opinion of the Xreal Air. I know you are reviewing the Xreal Air 2 but I dont have them, I only have the Air 1. If I had the Air 2 I could do a full comparison review. Anything I missed? My review I think will also work for the Air 2. The adapter should work, the Beam does work, the SD 30% battery blackout is a Air thing or is that a SD thing? I use a dock and my SD can be below 30% and the dock will output video so I'm guessing its a Xreal Air thing.

[@geraldbarkate7257]

Hello could you tell me what is the adaptater usbc you have for charge steamdeck and use glasses at the same time. I need the reference. Thanks a lot

[@Zx7o.]

The USB-C dock from the Virture XR is the way to go, it also has 2 USBC ports to connect 2 pairs of glasses

[@aTron0018]

You're definitely blazing the trail and setting the standard for transparency practices all KZbinrs should follow! Awesome video, and I i feel respected as a viewer when you disclose your biases and business relationships up front. That said, I'm definitely intrigued enough to wait about a year or so when I can afford a second-hand on OfferUp 😂

[@wusaint]

Copped some for Xmas and they are hands down the best thing I've ever used my Steamdeck with

[@MobileDecay]

As someone who isn’t paid by Xreal this is accurate. Xreal would probably rather have diarrhea all week then pay me for anything. Lol. The only thing I would add that could be a deal breaker is that the beam is locked to 60hz. Also the glasses without the Beam support 3D.

[@Nerothos91]

Would it be able to charge if you connect the deck and glasses through a dock?

[@markpotter8280]

Just thought I would update my comments below Thanks XReal for updating the XReal Beam it now works flawlessly with the Steam Deck Oled no need for any other adapters and just in time for me going on holiday so I am super happy

[@emiliosanchez4610]

Yet again being the jealous Scandinavian that can't get these for a reasonable price. I still have to say they look as cool as ever. I loved the effect you used in the video to simulate a holographic screen, that was a cool way to get the point across!

[@FanTheDeck]

Yeah I've definitely heard of this being a problem. Ugh hope XREAL and others can address in the future.

[@AaronMorrisTheSteamFox]

I'm surprised you didn't touch on the Xreal Decky plugin.

[@stevereid636]

Thanks for the shout out. I haven’t heard about this. I’m gonna give it a try and report back

[@moodyskies4588]

Yeah the decky plugin is great and it gets updates often

[@regigoogas2887]

I'd love to give these a try but the price is too high right now, ill keep an eye out for a discount but I can't manage the price with purchasing a home right now lol

[@Dracossaint]

Congrats on the home!

[@regigoogas2887]

thanks I'm still in the lender process but it should be delivered in march on my land.@@Dracossaint

[@FanTheDeck]

Heey! That's great - congrats!

[@MrJackHammor]

I have some questions I wear glasses, can I adjust these to my eyes? How far away is the virtual screen projected? Do you sometimes feel like it's inside a wall? How does it feel when something happens near the edge of the projected image? Do you tend to turn your head to better focus?

[@Daremachina]

The Xreal have a prescription insert that you can have adjusted. There’s no diopter adjustment like the Viture glasses have. The projection distance is a trick of the eye, it’s always on top of whatever you’re looking at. The projected image is static so if you turn your head you will still be looking at the center of the screen. These types of devices use birdbath lenses which do blur at the edge of the lenses but isn’t noticed unless you’re using the beam or a computer to create a spatial display (allowing you to anchor a screen in the real world so you can turn away from it)

[@FanTheDeck]

You can absolutely do prescription lenses with the Air 2 The projection question is a bit tough to answer because it's very much a perspective thing. I think it'll feel like either like 130" TV if you're sitting at a TV distance away or it'll feel like a 40" monitor if you're used to sitting 2-3 feet away. I do naturally tend to turn my head but it doesn't do anything to anything if you have the glasses plugged directly into the Deck. With the Beam, you can actually "dock" the screen so that's where you can actually turn your head to look at the corner of the screen. If that makes sense.

[@reallifetherapy1342]

I thought of doing this just now and had to see if somebody else already did. Appreciate you🙏🙏🙏

[@HelicopterRidesForCommunists]

My problem with the NReal Air was the lie that it was a "200 inch screen 4 ft away" when its actually a 2 inch screen 4 inches away. NOT WORTH IT. Plus it was hard to even see and was blurry and just a shit experience compared to something like the Quest 2 over virtual desktop and Bigscreen.

[@FanTheDeck]

I can't speak for the marketing materials, but I think how big the screen feels to you depends on what you're used to. I'm used to looking at a monitor during the day. That's the screen I look at the most. So to me, the XReal Air feels like a 35-40" monitor from 2-3 feet away.

[@kumarsalib722]

This is a huge step in the right direction, just not quite there yet. The next few years is very exciting for wearable displays.

[@kushreaper4208]

Fricken dope af

[@FanTheDeck]

Right?

[@digglerdiggler]

You can charge the Deck with the XReal glasses. Use the right adapter; Viture adapter works, but there are others too.

[@Meddl1ngK1d]

You absolutely can charge while using the glasses. Use a usb-c adapter with 65w or more power passthrough and display port support. I did this on a 14 hour flight back from asia.

[@geraldbarkate7257]

Hello. Could you please give me the reference of your usb c adaptater. I search one for me. Thanks a lot.

[@Meddl1ngK1d]

@geraldbarkate7257 something similar to redmagic gaming adapter. It must have PD (power delivery) and display port through usb-c. The red magic is simply a 2 port attachment with a connection for a phone, a port for power in, and a port for an attachment (the glasses).

[@Meddl1ngK1d]

Be sure that any PD adapter you purchase has atleast 45 watt power passthrough rating so that you are able to power both the steamdeck and glasses and even charge the steamdeck while using it.

[@charlesmarkwardt5344]

This video is helpful. I have been debating on the quest 3 or these. This made me lean more to the quest due to the snap windows feature missing for windows pc

[@evshrug]

What is the Snap Windows feature? I think that the little pod accessory would be necessary for gaming and PC utility. I forget what they call the pod officially, but in their marketing they say the pod enables the virtual “screen” to stay locked in place, and the glasses wearer can turn their head to bring a corner of the “screen” to the center of view. This is important when you need to look at different parts of a game’s HUD, or while computing in order to read text at the corner of the “screen.” The Quest 3 includes head tracking and an Android PC, so I think it has more standalone capabilities and its own ecosystem of apps (and 3D immersive content!). However, it would also be heavier (and more dizzying) preventing longer periods of use, plus it’s not as easy to take on the go (like… using one on an airplane, or in bed). So, different use cases 🤷‍♂️

[@charlesmarkwardt5344]

@evshrug Very true on the travel use. The pc feature i am looking for is what he described using a Mac. I know that the quest has those features. If these come down, another 100 or even 50 bucks. I could see picking them up as a travel screen for my steamdeck. When i am at home, my deck is docked 95% to a 55-inch tv.

[@MistahJ100]

The number comes from how you sit with it, If you sit right infront of a wall the screen appears smaller, but if you sit in a large room the screen will be Giant sized, Bigger the room bigger the screen

[@warpathh]

Huge thumbs UP for not taking money from Raid Shadow Legends.

[@FanTheDeck]

Yeah man. There's no way. They've contacted me a few times and that's a big no. I happened to say no to that weird Titles company that got exposed last year. I didn't know they were shady but it just didn't seem like anything that I cared about or that my viewers would care about so it was an immediate no before I even did my investigation.

[@warpathh]

@@FanTheDeck We appreciate it… Especially after we learned about how much money they are throwing at content creators to shill for them. It’s a toxic relationship for all.

[@hasnainsoofi8088]

Great video

[@J.Wick.]

I've been thinking of upgrading from an LCD Steam Deck to an OLED, but I just can't make sense out of it. The OLED is nice, if I didn't already have one, it'd be a no brainer. However, I'm now considering getting a set of these glasses and keeping my current deck. Seems like it would be nice to have for the SD, and elimnate some neck craning.

[@Wuppindalsa]

Have you looked at the Viture glasses at all? They are basically the same thing as the Air 2, but you can get an adapter to charge the deck while using them. I have the Viture and the adapter and they work fantastically. The only issue I have is the nose piece gets uncomfortable fairly quickly without constant adjustment. Interested to know of that is the tradeoff with the Air 2.

[@FanTheDeck]

Yeah, XREAL should definitely have done an adapter as well because I like these glasses better. Hopefully they have one in the works.

[@Daremachina]

The Viture adapter works great with the Xreal glasses, I use it all the time@@FanTheDeck

[@theophiled]

I've seen people say that you can use the Nubia Redmagic usb-c hub to charge the deck while using xreal's glasses, so there is that

[@Morcoman]

@@DaremachinaCame here to say the same thing lol use mine everytime i travel with the viture adapter.

[@FanTheDeck]

@@DaremachinaOh man that's good to know! Viture didn't send me that adapter so I'm gonna go ahead and buy it now. Thank you!

[@systoxity]

My set is pretty bad. This video reminded me to return. I have a pretty average face and no vision issues. The blur and difficulty maintaining the ‘sweet spot’ for clear visibility make this pretty bad and not worth the price. Good step in the right direction though.

[@markpotter8280]

I think it should be mentioned that the glasses work great with the Oled Steam Deck but the Xreal Beam does not work on a lot of Oled Steam Deck's so basically you can't use body anchor with the Oled Steam Deck which is a big problem that hopefully Xreal will sort shortly as the glasses are awesome

[@FanTheDeck]

So my understanding is that for those having this problem, they can fix this by going into Desktop mode and toggling on the Beam. I can do a little more digging to find out if that's the case.

[@markpotter8280]

@@FanTheDeck If you could do some digging that would be so appreciated. I tried doing that as suggested but when I do it comes up with a prompt on the steam deck about kde wallet system

[@markpotter8280]

Actually just wondering in order to get the usb to recognise my flash drives I had to change it from drd to xhci would that effect how the beam is seen (clutching at straws)

[@stevereid636]

The only way I could get the beam to work with an OLED Steam Deck is with a Star Tech dongle (not cheap) which has a usb-c display port alt mode. I could only find 3 dongle that support this, and 2 of those were Star Tech 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@markpotter8280]

@@stevereid636 Hi thanks for the reply Steve. I have actually just ordered the VITURE USB-C to Glasses and Charging Adapter. I hope it works. If not I will look into your suggestion

[@redactedvr8888]

I bought the og’s on sale for $270. After installing the new FW to get the 120hz on the og’s it is an amazing to play rage 2, metro exodus, f1 21, hi fi rush, DE, ghostrunner 1/2 and even remote play from my ps5 then AirPods Pro’s. Oooooh it is amazing

[@AttractionSpot]

Can't you just get a USB C dongle that has a splitter on it so that you can charge your steam deck while using these glasses?

[@RossBarboss]

I don't know about inches, but you can clearly see screen size, when you are in open space with some reference points! For me (I have Air 1) this is about 3m diagonal at about 3m from you.

[@andreamenaldo3824]

What is the difference with Lenovo glasses ?

[@FanTheDeck]

Oh I haven't tried them but just by looking at it, there are a few key differences: - Legion Glasses are limited to 60hz - Legion Glasses are like 33% heavier (prob not a big deal at the end of the day) - Legion Glasses are cheaper

[@Metroidam11]

I probably would’ve bought this by now but I just upgraded to OLED steam deck and the display is soooo good! Maybe if I get bored of the new OLED I’ll cop these 🤔

[@divagaciones1628]

I could see myself using something like this, not just for handheld but to play my PC while lying down on my hammock

[@matt2181]

I’m definitely interested in these but there’s two concerns for me. 1. Price and 2. What’s long term effects on having a screen that close to our eyes. Of course I’m writing this before I finish the video.

[@M64bros]

It's like the canceled Google glasses but it's official

[@backyardboating2109]

Great video. One question I haven’t seen anyone answer is can you hook the beam up to a power source to charge while you play or is there an adapter that you can use to charge your steam deck from the wall while you wear these?

[@jeffmonson_666_Angel_slayer]

Can’t you use a dock to place your steam deck on then use the other usb-c ports on the dock to plug your steam deck into a wall outlet then use a controller to connect to the dock as well that way you can play the steam deck, use these glasses and a controller while everything is plugged into wall power and you don’t have to worry about battery life?

[@lostsemplex]

Can you use these if you require prescription glasses? Every reviewer I've seen hasn't mentioned this and they don't wear glasses all day everyday.

[@Daremachina]

The Xreal Airs 1 came with a prescription insert that attaches to sit between your eyes and the lenses. I don’t know if it comes with the the new ones but you can definitely buy it separately if needed.

[@Dracossaint]

A use case that just came to mind, I wonder how will these would work with the RTX 20 series. Specifically plugging it in to the usb c port they have, that has me curious

[@FanTheDeck]

Ooooh that would be neat

[@Jude_Zilla]

have you tried using a USB-C to HDMI adapter to connect the steam deck to the Glasses? that could solve the charging problem when using the Glasses so you can dock it next to you while still charging

[@B_Machine]

Glasses usually fit me pretty poorly. Are these available in any stores to be tested?

[@sp0re8900]

I have the 1st gen air. I hate there's no way to adjust the display without a app or external device like the beam. I also hate the glossy lens that reflect light back into the glasses even if you have the black out cover on. The that said the are convenient for gaming in the bed next to wife or watching a movie on. Do i have regrets buying them yes i could of put that money towards a oled deck😂.

[@verbalhustle]

Viture FTW!

[@jorismak]

Right... my experience now that I have it: The screen size... it's kind of overrated. When I sit at my desk, with my 27" screen at about a good arms length away, the XReal screen takes up about the same size. When looking through the glasses at my desk, it's just as big as a 27" gaming monitor right in front of you. Second, it now has 120hz, yes. And with a Steamdeck this allows 40fps frame paced. That's nice. BUT: The display is fixed right in front of you. What happens is that _EVERY LITTLE MICRO SHAKE_ makes the whole screen wobble, and this happens a lot. It's actually quite fatiguing. This can be fixed! by using the XReal Beam in between, but that's another device with another battery to die down, and another purchase. But also, this limits the output to 60hz. They say 72hz, but I'm unable to set it to that. But it does allow the 'smooth follow' mode, that keeps the screen fixed but follows it smoothly, which takes out all the judders. Or the anchor mode, which is kind of like VR glasses where it stays fixed in virtual screen, and you can actually look away from it. And kind of customization for screen size / position also requires the Beam. On the good side: The beam now has (some kind of) app support. So you get free access to a file manager, and plugging it into your computer makes it show up as a drive to copy .APK files to, which you can then install from the file manager. Without tricks or rooting. Used it to install Moonlight and connect to my desktop for streaming games from. Didn't try with a controller yet though. And as always, the corners of the glasses look smudgy and glow, so it isn't really usable as a 'work screen'. Since it's OLED, the pixels response is awesome, and running testufo.com at 120hz the motion clarity is awesome (better than the 120hz screen on my Asus laptop). Audio isn't world breaking records awesome of course, but out of the box it's also quite better than I imagined built-in speakers would be.

[@BLACKSYNTH]

It's all very expensive. The ROG ALLY for me, Accessories for that, The Xreal air 2's, The beam, More accessories for that. and once you have all that it's hard to recommend using any of this without everything. For example, using the Xreal air 2's without the beam is not much fun, and pretty much mandatory I'd say. I cant imagine using my rog ally all the time as it is without the glasses. It's amazing. but puts it well out the reach of most people. I went into buying the RoG ally because it was £530 and I thought that's a good price for what it is. not knowing I'll be spending that AGAIN and then some a few weeks later 🤑😁 You cant go back, the Glasses take some of the shine away from the ROG Allys screen/size. I always want to put the glasses on.

[@zora_tech]

What I am curious about is how performance is affected on the steam deck. I would imagine since you are running a higher resolution if the game you were playing before can barely run at native resolution and 30fps you would most likely have to drop your graphics settings to run at 1080p 30fps.

[@user-xk6si9gx9p]

I need one

[@FanTheDeck]

They're really dope. Which Steam Deck do you have?

[@E2JKiNG]

A like for the disclaimer alone

[@Tonious]

Only thing holding me back is the price. Looks cool.

[@fotoamgamgfoto3695]

you cannot use usbc hub to charge and use the glasses?

[@fatbrittalking5578]

do they have the ability to turn the display off per eye?

[@FanTheDeck]

Not that I'm aware of. Out of curiosity, what's the use case for you?

[@X862go]

Wow very nice 👌

[@beowulfschmidt6031]

Is there no dongle that operates similarly to a dock that both delivers power _and_ outputs the video to the glasses?

[@TheDumplingMan]

For the problem with consoles, is it possible to stream the PS5 to the Deck via Chiaki and then use the glasses?

[@DaQatz]

I would only ever want to use something like this docked... So yeah the beam bit kinda ruins these.

[@justinseans]

So I bought mine then found this video. Do you have a good accessory that can let the deck charge while having the beam be connected at the same time also while being able to have USB plug open ....like a dock that would do it. I have seen the 2 way splitter from virtue. But a lot of the docks don't do video through c. Only HDMI which would fail to charge the beam. I'd like to have a full feature dock that can keep both devices charged.

[@paulgallant8115]

I have the Xreal air original. I didn't see much of a difference in the version 2 to upgrade. I use mine with Samsung Dex on my S21 ultra all the time.

[@rideordie295]

Would it work if you use it with a small portable dock? This way one could charge and use the glasses at the same time?

[@houstongaragepro8343]

The resolution needs to be bumped up for PC software.

[@hirschcola1]

Yeah i have some games were i struggle with the smal screen on my steam deck. For example the good old Burn Out Paradise with runs today perfect on the deck, but the small screen and this huge city makes it sometimes hard not to crash. God of War....nice game also with the deck but an hard job for my eyes sometimes. To run the unit on the dock with my 27" Display is an option, but i was looking for this kind of AR Glasses ( maybe also the Legion Go Glasses ). I think after christmas i will have a closer look at the market for an special offer and buy one of these.

[@animationmann6612]

You should have mentioned Repairbility because the Steam Deck is repairable fairly is it the same case for the Glasses?

[@doomedthunder6638]

I can’t wait to see games at 30fps in 800p up close.

[@guillermolmr]

The only reason I can’t buy them is because the ultra are not selling in Spain. (They ship to France, why not Spain?)

[@swizards01]

Did you try NewQ or Hagibis steam deck dock it will work while charging? I have goovis g3 max headset it work maybe it will work with your AR glasses too. You just need HDMI converter with your type c cable.

[@amoore05359]

Can you stream with it ?

[@FanTheDeck]

You can with a number of options. You can either connect it to your phone or if you get the Beam you can use any streaming apps that are available on the Beam App Store like Netflix, Hulu, and Prime Video.

[@jeremyperez4792]

Does the multi display only work with mac? Id be surprised it wouldnt work with windows

[@badsamaritan8223]

Do these work with a USB dongle on the Deck??

[@houstongaragepro8343]

When is the windows update coming for nebula?

[@gokuljosh1186]

Does it support hdr, I think it might not due to reduced brightness. After recent steam os update, I noticed her toggle in quick settings when connecting external displays, but wanted to know if xreal had this toggle greyed out.

[@bloepje]

My biggest intereset in xreal air 2 or alike is as a monitor replacement for work. It would take me roughly 10 years to replace my monitor pure energy usage wise, using 190 hours a month as the amount of time I am looking at it. Or about 4 years to replace my tv. Assuming 400 euro for the set, and 0.3 euro per kWh in price, and the power used by the xreal air is negligeble compared to the monitor or tv.

[@FanTheDeck]

Depending on your setup, I guess you could have a multi-monitor setup using Air 2s. That might change the math a bit?

[@shadaxgaming]

I wonder how the experience would be on a plane. I love my steam deck for long flights, but it's not comfortable to aim the screen towards my eyes for more than a couple hours, especially with the arm rests in the way. This seems like it could resolve that issue.

[@finraziel]

I think the not being able to charge might put a damper on that... I do wonder if you could get around that with a powered USB hub though.

[@MADSLAYER47]

I heard they made the lenses smaller? Welp...

[@leehawleyphotography9326]

Do they have adjustable frequency like the SD screen?

[@Heldermaior]

I will pick them up next year or something. I just got the OLED so that is my tech budget for the year gone

[@wiggedmite6275]

Is the screen locked to the direction you're looking at, or is it anchored to a location in 3d space. If it's the former i imagine it might be disorienting if you have to turn your head quick for something in your environment.

[@dnast97]

You have to get the Beam if you want the screen to be anchored in 3D space. Doesn't bother me without the Beam but some people find it a little disorienting after a while.

[@irlshrek]

for our big boys out there, this product isnt designed for us. I tried it a while back and my head is just too wide so the lenses didnt sit where they should in relation to my eyes

[@mironicus]

These glasses only provide 60 Hz if you connect it to a Steam Deck, there is no 120 Hz available, even with a Rog Ally and using Windows 11.

[@FanTheDeck]

Not the case for me with the Air 2 and Steam Deck. Which Steam Deck and glasses do you have? I may be able to help troubleshoot.

[@Dracossaint]

Not true, my deck does 120hz via USB c to my monitor via display alt mode. If this is your experience, it might be your display or the dock your using

[@Dracossaint]

To add to "it could be your display", it could be your using a HDMI cable for a device that isn't true 2.1. (HDMI org roped together HDMI 2.0 and 2.1 together now..... Yay....). Could be that your cable doesn't support HDMI 2.1, could be your using something with an older display port version on your monitor. Etc Etc

[@Yourowner]

im a little worried with all the peeps watching movies and tv from the drivers seat of there car while driving.... This could be a big problem

[@Dracossaint]

Ehhhh I mean one can argue this is distracted driving from the get go. Headphones are another thing that can be distracting and over ears are not legal to wear while driving. I feel this niche is very small as it is and add on top of that someone would have to be willing to try such a thing. A niche in a niche of a niche. Not saying your concerns isn't valid mind you, just saying I don't think it's likely

[@FanTheDeck]

Well put Dracossaint. Yeah this would be terrible and it would absolutely be a crime.

[@arnold4radiators]

I've been looking between the Xreal and the Viture glasses. I have the 64gb model and have upgraded to a 1 tb drive and dual boot windows on an external drive. Is there a workaround to use this and charge the deck at the same time? If not that might be a deal breaker.

[@nickjacobsss]

They make a little adapter that has an extra usb c port for charging as well

[@marcusbunce3406]

Is there any chance these can be used to watch 3D movies... I have an Acer 120hz active monitor NVidia 3D which is not supported on newer graphics cards... I spent a lot of time ripping my Blueray movies ( which is a huge collection ) to watch on my oculus I’d love to put them onto a micro SD and be able to watch them again on my new Steam Deck any chance a community dev could sort this,, I would get a pair tomorrow if this was possible

[@dnast97]

Yep, the glasses have a SBS (side-by-side) 3D mode. I've only tried it with KZbin videos and PC games but it works well.

[@junior.af9]

When in bed using the steam deck next to my wife she always complains of how bright it is (even when it’s really low) Really thinking of getting this but the price is not something I can pay right now

[@SunnyDeLite]

How do these work for glasses users? I am legally blind without glasses and am interested in buying this

[@yingbxua6240]

Prescription Insert can be used to compensate for this. However it can be quite expensive(depend on where you live).... Alos there is a chance that you will not be able ot achieve pervect fit and/or view of the screens. this happen to some number of people, perhaps a small number, but this issue still there, despite manufacturer incorporated one-size-fits-all kinda features in this device....

[@SunnyDeLite]

Ah so definitely something that would be an issue, thank you for the detailed reply. I saw the legion one getting lenses are about as expensive or more expensive than the glasses themself so probably gonna be a hard pass for me until the technology is cheaper.@@yingbxua6240

[@AlexandruKK92]

[@Sigue24]

As a question I've always thought for these. If I wear eyeglasses, will using these have any issues distance wise (I'm near sighted) but in theory it should be just fine, but would love to know from a real world perspective.

[@michaelschumer4065]

I actually just picked up a pair myself and can confirm you will need to utilize the prescription insert if you normally wear glasses.

[@Sigue24]

@@michaelschumer4065 Definitely good advice, thank you. Now to look into the insert so I decide if I really want to go through all of that haha.

[@michaelschumer4065]

@@Sigue24 they do give you a blank prescription insert with the purchase of the device! As long as your prescription is up-to-date I believe you can just take him to an optometrist to get the specific prescription manufactured

[@TheDrEagleG]

Hey dude. You CAN use these with eyeglasses. I literally just put them over the top of my glasses and they work fine. They don't sit completely flush on my face so I guess using the prescription inserts would technically be a more comfortable solution, but it definitely works with eyeglasses and saved me about £100 for the prescription.

[@Sigue24]

@@TheDrEagleG Ok that’s definitely an option then, I’m waiting for my insurance to change over then I could just use that for the lens but it seemed like a lot of an add on for an already price heavy item. I may definitely use that method then. Thank you a ton for the info!

[@signe_stilett]

I love this tech. But I hold out untill it gets 6dof tracking and better field of view. That is when it will be able to replace multi-monitor setup, and when I can justify to myself a price that trades blows with multi-monitors The tech is awesome. But both hardware and software have big UX leaps on the horizon

[@VaporCode]

Why did you not mention that the xreal air 2 gets so hot that it feels like there is a microwave in your left side of the head directly in your temple? A radioactive beam heat wave? That thing can give you a head tumor for sure. I own one and thats the only reason i stopped using them i wish i could use them but it causes me huge migraine after due to my left temple getting all that radiation heat

[@FanTheDeck]

Whoa I didn't have this problem at all. Have you tried a support request with xreal? Out of curiosity, how long are your play sessions and did this differ at all depending on your use case (e.g. Steam Deck directly, vs Beam, etc)

[@VaporCode]

​@FanTheDeck at around the 40min mark, you start feeling uncomfortable due to the increase in heat, at the 1h:45m the migrane starts due to the unbearable beam of heat thats where i either take it of or get a massive migraine. It heats up only in the left side where it has the cable, the fat area that has a label of letters infront of the left temple, then the fat area around your eyebrows, where the screens are get increasingly warm due to the 2 small screens being there. I used it on my phone and on steam deck. Did not tried support yet, i saw a forum of people with the same situation and even video reviews just like yours that literally say the heat is unbearable, let me know if you want the video link

[@yingbxua6240]

pls share the vid link for sure. the more people aware, the better. In the area of the type-c this can be caused by bad contact on usb connnection as an option.....

[@zombiejesus7445]

Still way too expensive. Cool concept, and I am very interested.. but not at that price at all Still doesnt beat the dock for $80 and a $30 controller + tv (which can be used by more than 1person)

[@Areinu]

It's all good and all until Valve announces Steam Eyes.

[@biiondo89]

Cost a lot mate 😢

[@OneBullet360]

Thats a bummer you cant use them while charging the steam deck

[@FanTheDeck]

Someone pointed out you can buy an adapter from Viture (ironically) to do this but I wish there was a built in way to do this

[@MarceldeJong]

These X reals are so dang expensive.

[@desiretuiel]

Nope. Fine using my quest 3

[@FanTheDeck]

Ooc - do you use the Quest 3 with the Steam Deck or you just mean in general?

[@yingbxua6240]

these are two completely different pieces of equipment, which may have very distant relatives but definitely not looking simillar at any point

[@AndreVandal]

Ouf at over 1,000$ Canadian, this is way too expensive for my wallet. Maybe in the future the prices will come down to something more reasonable.

[@FanTheDeck]

Ouch that really hurts!

[@neoxbomb]

The first ones are not anywhere near as good as all the influencers claimed.