A Better Way To Record Electronic Drums

It's easy to record electronic drums, right? Sure...if you can get past cable/signal routing, MIDI mapping, software, latency, and a ton of other little "gotchas" that eat up the time you should be spending on playing.
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The key to getting the most out of your electronic drum kit is creating a versatile, efficient, and effective workflow. In this video, I share my "always on" workflow that allows me to have my Roland V-Drums ready to practice, write, or record at the push of a button. I no longer spend time moving stuff around, connecting wires, or remembering how something should be configured. In this video I walk you through how I configure my drums and home studio to get this level of flexibility.
It doesn't matter whether you're using something like the new Alesis Strike Pro, a mid-level Roland V-Drum kit, or even something like an old entry-level Simmons kit. This workflow will work for you.
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[@ChristopherJones-cjphoto]

I immediately refuse to watch videos that start with a loud noise, especially distorted guitar. goodbye.

[@BeneathVultures]

😆😆😆 Please don't go. My channel will crumble without your 1 view.

[@spacep0d]

This guy made a good vid. For me though, annoying (any) background music and super low signal level will very quickly have been closing the vid.

[@RODE2112]

You guys are too anl (intentionally misspelled, don't wanna get put on fb jail). As a rocker that's what gets my interest going. It was educational for me, as a beginner in this. Worry about video production details at the board meeting lol.

[@sweetdragon36067]

Thanks for taking the time to explain the process. I love playing my drums at 72. I had a SONOR acoustic set since 1980 but was so loud it annoyed everyone so I didn't play it. Purchased a Roland TD-17 a few years ago and was amazed at the sound. It will be a while before I buy the gear you are describing, but I know a little more about what is required. Thanks again.

[@flip7081]

Just, and I mean JUST finally dipping my toes into this. Working with a TD10, so this is very useful. Thanks.

[@BeneathVultures]

Sucks that I'm just now seeing your comment. Thanks KZbin. 🙄 Glad it helped!

[@eliazartrevino4911]

Video starts @2:47

[@BeneathVultures]

If you guys really don't want to take the time to watch, here are the steps: Long USB/MIDI out from your e-kit to your computer, get drum software like Superior Drummer and map your drums as a MIDI device to control it, long headphone out from computer to your drum kit aux-in/headphone amp/mixer, mouse/keyboard at your drum station, optional stereo out from e-kit to your interface for scratch audio recording. Hook it all up in a semi-permanent way so you never have to worry about fiddling with cables again. Now just enjoy a dedicated e-drum recording workflow that gives you tons of flexibility in post production and allows you to focus on performing.

[@GregDavidson-si8kt]

I have a tascam dp24 SD. It does not have midi, so how can I connect my electric kit to it? Can I run the right or left output directly into a track on my tascam?

[@str1897]

Well this video is awesome, very clear and useful and after two years you still take the time to help everyone in the comments, and there is people that disliked it ? Anyway, congrats man, very good work, and thanks from all the people you've helped

[@BeneathVultures]

Thank you! Sorry for the delayed response, the world is nuts right now and it's definitely slowed down my online presence, but I still love talking shop with everyone when I have a chance. Cheers Mr Str!

[@str1897]

@@BeneathVultures no problem ! Have a great day !

[@dbmdrums1105]

Hey there ... Thanks for this video. Is there way to use the Roland TD module sounds to record in the DAW? I have connected these with VST plugins and they are working just fine , but what if I want to use the sounds from the module itself? I think there is an option "midi" option in the module called as "Local Control" on or off ? I have put those on but the MIDI audio from the module is not being heard?

[@thatsmypurseidontknowyou4797]

Thank you for this man!!! thank you so much

[@richie7782]

Hey man why can’t my Cubasis 3 recognize my dtx 502 on my iPad? I have the camera connection kit connected but when I plug my headphones in I can’t hear my sounds coming from my kit, Also I can get the midi bars if I play my edrums thru the keyboard on Cubasis. Yes I’m a noob please help!!!

[@BeneathVultures]

Sorry for the delay. Wish I could help here, but I'm completely dumb when it comes to mobile device recording. Sorry!

[@nowayinhell91]

I have a td4 and it has no usb but it has the midi. What do you do then?

[@Eric-dd8bk]

You plug the midi out of the module into the midi in of your audio interface if it has one.

[@RichardMarletta]

hi i am having trouble with recording my device in a daw i cannot see easy drummer in the plugins section, is this where i should be looking?

[@BeneathVultures]

It's possible that you haven't mapped all VST folder locations. Are you on Windows or Mac?

[@fabien4507]

Hi Cahd ! I have a yamaha DTX500 drum kit as you show at the beginning of your video, I tried to record via midi out with MIDI to USB cable, the MIDI device appears in EZDRUMMER (stand alone) but no impulsion or sound on... Can you help me ? Thanks

[@guitarheroman91]

same problem with the DTX522, i'm using audacity and it's not even shown on the list of recording inputs

[@fabien4507]

@@guitarheroman91 I found the USB-MIDI cable on input, but zero signal, in any software... So, does anyone has a solution, Chad Edward how did you do with DTX500 ?

[@liamflairty8944]

Man I wish drum modules could just have a xlr line out

[@BeneathVultures]

Omg I know. I now have the Alesis Strike Pro, and even with the 1/4 outs, you still typically have to direct box it at venues. Pain. In. The. Ass.

[@mikemurphy8580]

Mine does

[@spacep0d]

Good video. Thanks for not having background music. I understand all of this, but what if I want to use the sounds from my Alesis Strike Pro SE, and not a totally different drumkit? The Strike Pro has outputs for every piece, kick, snare, toms, etc., so would it make sense to feed this into the DAW somehow and also record with MIDI? Or, could I just use the main stereo outs combined with MIDI to use the audio from the kit itself? Thanks much!

[@austinjamesweimer3388]

I've been having similar thoughts about workflow recently, this was an awesome video!

[@BeneathVultures]

🤘 thank you! I'm hoping to do a follow-up since I picked up the Alesis Strike Pro. Hopefully I'll have a few more tricks to share.

[@joelpierson2628]

Info at 8:58 was golden. I couldn't get a response in Reaper from the EZ drummer VST. When you said, "If you are not getting a response," it clicked. I didn't have the "Record Armed" button selected. Should have known, but I didn't until getting that one reminder. Thanks!

[@BeneathVultures]

Hell yeah man! I know this one was a bit longwinded, but thanks for sticking through it and I'm glad it helped a bit!

[@martmakesmusic]

I there a way to record the module sound through midi (usb cable directly into pc) I use cubase. Normally i just use a drum vst but i have a pretty nice kit on the module and would like to record that.

[@BeneathVultures]

Heh, would be nice. I have the Strike Pro now along with a Focusrite 18i20, so I can technically do that via individual drum line outs, but it's so much work. So yeah, there's always that option. 😒

[@zamkazam3308]

meaning to record with vst we need to use midi port interface. if no midi port likes focusrite 2i2 this one can't record with vst right?

[@richbuck100]

Very cool, thanks. Not an easy topic to lay out. Nice job

[@gauravroy7801]

Is there any DAW that you'd recommend that's available on the iPad?

[@judtt]

GarageBand

[@foobar8478]

Thanks for the info. I've been trying to get up and running with recording on my e-kit but it's been a pain in the ass. I used to record into logic pro on a 2010 macbook pro, but that died. I tried recording onto a windows machine using reaper and thats when I learned I also needed a vst like ez-drummer. As a typical person that just wants to hit the ground running, I thought the only easy (but expensive) way to do it was to just buy another mac and run logic since it didn't appear to need any other software like ez-drummer. But 3k is a tough pill to swallow when for that kind of coin I could probably mic up my acoustic kit.

[@fadmccracken7497]

Can you do a schematic drawing for this explanation? Im an idiot and still learning.. i.e. From drums>laptop>audio interface>so on n forth It would be much help. Thank you

[@BeneathVultures]

Hey no worries, everyone's gotta start somewhere. 🤘 Yep, I already made a diagram. Check it out here: chadedwardmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/edrums-diagram.png

[@GregsGarage]

Right on Chad. Some good info here.

[@leeknievel748]

Nice hobby you have going dude

[@eddieb4228]

Alright, so I'm having an issue with my Roland TD6V Module + FORE MIDI to USB interface cable. I'm using SSD5.5 free on Cakewalk and although the samples are great sounding, I get a lot of latency in my headphones and the response is inconsistent (soft and hard stick hits). I tried downloading the TD6V drivers to hopefully get my module recognized in Cakewalk but the Roland site says it's only a module update and when i click it, it says "page no longer available". I tried everything, from hardware I/O buffer from 256 - 128 - 64, to lowing and raising the sample rate and buffer size, and also turning off my Local Control on my module. I wanted to buy a Drum VST soon but i wanted to get this figured out before i do end up needing an actual midi 2x2 interface or something else. Please anyone who can help, chime in!

[@xh0rsex]

Would you be able to use a Tascam 16x08 - tascam.com/us/product/us-16x08/top - as an intrerface for multitrack recording with a TD-30 plugged into a PC?

[@tristanericson7930]

I have a question man! My kit is Alesis turbo mesh kit. the problem is whatever vst plugin I use, the hi-hats in midi seems not to be responding as it is in the drum module...like I'm hitting the hi-hats but the sound that plugin receives is always an open hat.

[@BeneathVultures]

In the VST, your pedal should be assigned to a note that clamps your hh. It can get a little tedious, but it's probably easiest to just test each note.

[@YOUARESOFT.]

does using stereo outs vs mono out make a difference when using an electric drum kit

[@BeneathVultures]

Not sure what context you mean, but it's a huge difference in sound quality. In a recording situation you never want to use mono line out from your drum kit if you are recording audio from it. Playing live may be a bit more forgiving because smaller venues might mix your kit to mono anyway.

[@YOUARESOFT.]

@@BeneathVultures thank you for the response ! So I’ll use both line outs of the drum brain and plug them both into my interface (line 1 and 2) , I just didn’t know if I needed both since I can’t tell the difference in sound

[@BeneathVultures]

@@YOUARESOFT. 🤘 happy to help. It might not sound different if you have both recorded tracks panned center and/or your interface is centering them. When you pan the tracks left and right, you should hear a massive difference in sound. If you already have everything panned and it still doesn't sound any different, I'd take a close look at the visual waveforms on the recorded tracks. They should look a little different. If they look exactly the same, then it could be that your drum module is sending a mono signal over both channels. That's more of an equipment-specific issue that I probably couldn't help with. Anyway, hope that helps & best of luck.

[@GaryJohnston89]

Hey! I love the video, and I will be experimenting with this stuff shortly. One question I have is this: I am also using Sonar Pro, and I was just using my headphones to my laptop headphone jack and getting my sound from the DAW. Is there a reason to not do this? Also, I was having an issue with my hi hat frequently triggering the wrong note, ex. I was hitting the top of the cymbal while closed in a 8th note pattern but occasionally it would cut out or register as an open hi hit hat. This doesn't happen at all when playing through the module itself, only the DAW.

[@BeneathVultures]

Thanks! 1st - if you haven't upgraded to Bandlab Cakewalk, do it! I was annoyed that it's now free because I paid for Sonar, but they have fixed so many Sonar bugs that it doesn't make sense to keep using old versions. As far as sound source, it depends. If your "sounds" from the DAW mean the drum sounds from a plugin, then I do recommend routing your drumset's line out signal to your headphones because almost all drum software suffers from pretty bad latency. Even if it's just a few milliseconds, it can throw off your performance. The module sounds are almost always near-zero latency. Hihat issue - are you sure your module is not seeing the same mis-trigger and just compensating for it? This is just an educated guess, your module is probably designed for your kit and can interpret and correct odd triggering. Drum software takes the raw MIDI signal from any MIDI device, so it's not as forgiving. Also, Hihat issues are common for lots of e-kits, so it's not a surprise. When I have a good take but I have a mis-trigger, I just open up the midi and move the note. Hope that helps.

[@GaryJohnston89]

@@BeneathVultures Thanks for the snappy reply! I was originally using whatever drum software came with my sonar (studio drummer or something) and then after I switched to a different one my hi hat issue was gone... thank christ for that. Time to learn all the craziness that is midi drum mixing and editing!

[@xh0rsex]

Ok, so I'm trying to follow what's being said in this vid, but I'm confused because I don't have the exact setup, so things are changing. . - I have a roland UM-ONE mk2 (usb/midi) that I use to connect my module to my PC where I am using a VST (addictive drums 2) and a DAW (Reaper) - I have a small tablet I use to keep music on for playing along to. - I do not have/use a dedicated interface . What would I need to do to be able to use the sounds from the VST and play along to the music coming from my tablet? Is there any way to set it up so I can control the volume/levels via the module or would it all have to be done on the PC?

[@BeneathVultures]

Technically you can pipe the output of the VST to your onboard soundcard, but it will be unusable in any realtime application. You really need a dedicated interface to produce the sounds coming out from the VST that you trigger. Even then, you'll be dealing with a little latency, which is why I suggest using the module sounds during the performance while you record the midi. If you're wanting to play a VST instrument on a time-sensitive instrument like drums, I really don't think you'll be able to accept the lag. It's just too distracting. I've seen people get the latency suuuuper low, but when you're playing you still feel it. Hope that helps.

[@xh0rsex]

@@BeneathVultures I figured out how to do it. - I run the USB/midi from the module to the PC - I run a cord from my sound card headphone input to a splitter connected to the module headphone jack - I plug headphones into the other end of the splitter so I can hear everything. I can record using/hearing the vst sounds in real-time with no latency. I use ASIO for the sound and I use a dedicated sound card (Asus xonar essence stx) not onboard. Maybe that plays into why I can play with no latency.

[@jarekcarnelian4284]

@@xh0rsex Do you use a super fast PC? Windows 10, Mac, Linux? If I plug headphones into my dedicated sound card (Asio Driver) and use USB/midi from module to PC then I already get latency from the VST (SD3) over the sound card headphones - but you have your headphones on the splitter. I will try anything that might work but I don't understand why the magic comes from connecting the module headphone jack to the Xonar sound card "headphone input" (as far as I can tell this card has "Full Size Audio Inputs/Outputs" but NO Phono Input) . Before I shell out for another sound card I need to understand what specs it needs. Are you using the Essence STX II 7.1 from 2014? If I get the same card you use, can you confirm how you are connecting to it - did you mean to the Xonar's "Audio Input"? Crazy how complicated something so simple can become! ;-)

[@tomtriggs7179]

I'm having an issue matching the MIDI output trigger numbers of my Millenium MPS-850 with that of my DAW, Reaper. For some reason the MIDI numbers of my kit are on different positions on the MIDI map when they're recorded into Reaper, which means that certain parts of the kit are missing/ on the wrong drums & cymbals when being played through my VST Instrument. Any idea why this is happening or how to fix it? Pretty sure I can't change it on the kit, which means I'd need to change it within Reaper? Pretty baffled! Thanks.

[@tomtriggs7179]

*For example, the MIDI output number for my ride on my E-Drumkit is 51, but when I play into Reaper, that then for some reason comes out at 22?

[@BeneathVultures]

Hey Tom, I'm not certain about Reaper specifically. The MIDI protocol is standardized, but how it's implemented isn't always, and sometimes an offset needs to be taken into account. You can probably account for that offset in the Preferences menu. It's probably octave-based. Take a look at that and let me know if you're still stuck.

[@tomtriggs7179]

@@BeneathVultures Okay sweet I'll have a look into that. I'll let you know if I'm successful! Thanks for the reply.

[@rethzin4135]

Can you record the drum audio without an audio interface??

[@aliciaserrano9698]

I don't believe so

[@Humanumikey]

Best intro music EVER!! great vid man.

[@rorymcintosh1592]

Can u change a Tom on the vst to be a extra cymbal ?

[@cbsmusic2745]

hey i want to learn how to record the sound of an electric drum as audio. Not midi. how can i do this?

[@ZaxDrumsandGolf]

If you use you R/L output hook up a 6,3mm to a 1/4 cable. Plag that into your computer you need a program like Audacity and you can record just the audio from your module. Or some people use and iRig to record directly to an iPhone/ iPad. There are quite a few videos on KZbin about how to record like that.

[@keithjones1004]

Thank you

[@Slevinlobell]

I recently got an Alesis DM6 set in a trade,and I am so disappointed in the fact the wires are all in a snake that clicks into the back of the module. And the snare has the notorious DM6 issue of being WAY too low volume, and will not activate sometimes when hit same time as the hi hat..REALLY annoying but it works for the most part. I was REALLY HOPING there was a way to download,or upload my VSTi drum tones (Ugritones Hardcore set) INTO the module so I dont HAVE TO be playing through my PC and just have the sounds in the module for practice and writing. Is there a way to do this actually? I cant figure it out. I'm still recording with it,so this vid has been helpful..ty..

[@BeneathVultures]

Ack! The snake harnesses are the worst! As far as using your Ugritone kit, you can't import them into the DM6 module. I will say this - it's somewhat of a blessing...for me at least. Because we're working with sampled drums, everything is always the exact same sound. No mic placement variation, the mix is usually similar, etc. Since there's no variation, you end up with a sort of tone fatigue where you get utterly sick of playing the exact sounds that you record. Again, just my opinion, but for a proper artistic palette, live/practice instruments shouldn't sound exactly like the recordings. Us musicians are picky about the weirdest things, right? Haha! Side note, I now have the Alesis Strike Pro and aside from some annoyances, it's pretty sweet. Here's a link if you want to see a little more about my thoughts on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apeuhZZ8npyrpKs

[@redd5005]

Hi, great vid, you really seem to know your stuff. I have an electronic kit, laptop running Reaper and a Focusrite Scarlet interface. At this stage I just want to do two things: 1) record drums to existing backing tracks which are in Reaper; 2) do basic drum cover vids. For now, I'm happy to use the sounds from the Alesis Surge kit. What would you suggest? Cheers, Redd.

[@madmaxmanthelord1937]

Hi, I have a Roland TD1 MK drumkit, I also have an Irig, anyway that I can record my drums?

[@doublebase1975]

audio out from drum module to irig. irig to your phone to capture video and sound.

[@itsokay5608]

You see, no video out there can help me. My computer doesn't have a microphone jack input on it. Just one for headphones. So I can't really record my drums there even with an interface.

[@Soundscapemind]

That's where the interface comes in. Every interface will have some sort of output you can plug headphones directly into. without one you're going to have a bad time

[@toolandmaynard]

IRig. It’s a product that is inexpensive to take care of that issue. I use it to go from m my drum module to my iPad headphone jack and go to camera and hit record. That’s all you need. That will do the same for your lab top. You may have already figured this out but just in case. The product is like 30 bucks.

[@holodek4446]

So if I ran my Roland through my interface with midi would it still pick up the Roland module sounds in protools/Ableton or do you have to have drum software when using midi? And without the drum software would the audio sound like crap? Cause personally I think Roland v-drums sound good by themselves. Thanks man! Great vids, learned a lot

[@BeneathVultures]

Glad the vids helped, Brian. There's 2 ways you could approach this if you want to use your drum module sounds but need to tweak the performance. You'll need a module that has both midi in and midi out. You record the midi on your computer, make any changes, then run the midi out back to your kit where you can then record the drum module audio outputs with your interface. This method works best when you have line outs for every drum pad and an interface that has enough inputs. Less expensive drums only have L and R out, so you're essentially stuck working with a mixed down drum track. Yuck. The second option is to record the midi like normal and then pump it through something like EZ Drummer or Superior Drummer. Much easier and the result will almost always be better. My advice - don't get hung up on your kit's sounds. They may sound good, but more often than not drum software sounds better and is more versatile. In the end, you just have to decide if it's worth the added headache. Hope that helps.

[@holodek4446]

Chad Edward - Songwriter/Audio Producer yup I got midi in and out. Cool big help! Thank you sir!

[@lucyferina]

You can record either the Roland sounds, or just the midi data from the Roland module and then use software to create the sounds, you can have both the midi data and the software sounds and blend in to taste as well. no the drums will sound just fine (whatever your module produces will be recorded).

[@holodek4446]

lucyferina thanks a ton!

[@wilcohen1505]

Ok, so if I’m using an old Roland td7 I can use the midi in/out to do this since it doesn’t have usb? Thanks!

[@jonathanblaylock5938]

I hope this hasn’t been brought up already and it may be an easy fix, but I can’t figure out how to get a closed hi hat sound. With my pedal pressed it still makes the sound of an open hi hat

[@BeneathVultures]

Not sure if you mean closed hihat sound on your module or in VST software. In your module, that should always be working and would indicate a bad connection, settings, or something going bad in the module itself. In software, your pedal is almost certainly passing a MIDI note with velocity relative to how hard you step on it. In the software, I'm pretty sure you just need to find what note is being sent and map that to the hihat choke command. It's a little hard to be specific without knowing what software and kit you're using. Hope that helps.

[@jonathanblaylock5938]

Chad Edward - Songwriter/Audio Producer thanks. I’m using cakewalk with mt power drum kit 2 and an Alesia turbo kit. I’m really super new to all this.

[@trewgodell]

Hey man! Awesome information! A few questions: what kind of mount do you use for that micro mixer and also for the phone to your rack? That’s such a great setup. Also, do you have any tips for being able to remotely record from behind the kit without needing my laptop directly next to me? Thanks man

[@BeneathVultures]

Thanks Tim! Ha, it's this amazing mount called Zip Ties. 😆 I've actually since switched over to a small Yamaha mixer that gives more options. In the description of this vid I recently added a link to a diagram that shows how that works. As far as remote recording, I have to deal with that to. You can get something like a USB macro keypad (search that on Amazon) to start/stop/record, but you still need to bounce around, so the most effective option I've found is to just use a wireless mouse. I'm convinced that there's a better way to handle this, but I haven't figured one out yet.

[@MikaelMaatta]

Great video buddy, some questions, i presume less lag with midi compared to usb? right now on my Alesis strike pro se using the outputs from each pad cymbals etc which works fine but wanna get the superior drummer 3, using tascam 16X8 and Logic pro x and in process to buy the 25ft midi cable to get started, have you heard any issues with compatibillity? thanks again

[@BeneathVultures]

Hey thanks Mikael! I haven't heard of any compatibility issues there. Talking raw transfer rates, USB is massively faster than MIDI, but MIDI can travel over longer cables safely. There are other factors that might sway you in one direction or the other, but for most uses, you're almost always better off with USB. MIDI has been optimized and it's reliable so it's not going anywhere, but it's still a super old technology that has limits. Hope that helps. 🤘

[@MikaelMaatta]

@@BeneathVultures Thanks again, so finally got my Midi cable out Alesis Strike Pro drum module into mdid on my tascam US16X8 cant see my Alesis drums in my Logic Pro X, do i need to down load any specific drivers or did i miss something??when doing a new track choosing software instrument and my understnding would be Alesis would be in the drop down menu, thanks for any kind of help

[@MikaelMaatta]

@@BeneathVultures Midi cable as u see previous reply wasnt working good couldnt see drums in Logic Pro, i did have a usb cable long enough and YASS it was working great downloaded the 10 days trial of EZdrummer 2, some amazing sounds there, thanks for all ur help

[@BeneathVultures]

@@MikaelMaatta ​ Mikael Maatta Sorry for the delay. Crazy times we're living in. Awesome, yeah MIDI seems like the better option but mapping is SO much easier over USB that manufacturers seem to be pushing that more and more. Glad it's all up and running!

[@SandauxBeats]

Good day, man! This is awesome! I have an Alesis Nitro Mesh and using Cakewalk by Bandlab. I'm planning to record simultaneously with 8 tracks. One for each pad. 1 track for each cymbals, 1 track snare, 1 track kick drum(bass), 1 track floor tom, and 1 track for hi hats. How can I record a drum track simultaneously in Cakewalk using the Alesis Nitro Mesh? Or do you think it's easier to record multitrack by using Ableton? Thanks!

[@BeneathVultures]

Thanks! There are so many variables that I don't know if this all applies, but I'll give it a shot. Easiest way I've found is to plug in via USB MIDI, load up some kind of drum plugin like EZ Drummer, Superior Drummer, etc. map the input of the plugin MIDI track to your Nitro kit, use the program's individual pad assignment to make any adustments (e.g. make sure the right drums are triggered), arm the MIDI track, and hit record!

[@BeneathVultures]

If you mean you want to record 8 audio tracks, that requires individual outputs for each track. You won't be able to do that unless you have something like the Strike Pro kit that has audio out for each main drum track. :\

[@chuckh5722]

The verbal explanation of your cable routing is kind of confusing, do you have a drawn out diagram to see? I'm using a Roland TD-17, a laptop, Presonus AudioBox 22vsl interface, and Addictive Drums 2.

[@BeneathVultures]

Good call. I've created a diagram here using the 2 most common configurations. chadedwardmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/edrums-diagram.png

[@chuckh5722]

@@BeneathVultures Wow! Thank you so much for the quick response with a nice diagram. Now here is something for you to ponder. I have a combination drum kit. I combined two Roland kits into one setup. The main kit is a TD-17KV the secondary part of the kit is a TD-11. I use the TD-11 for extra cymbals, roto toms, and a second bass pedal--no extra snare or hi-hat. Both modules are being used. Both modules have a USB out and only a MIDI OUT not IN. The question I have is ,...Is there a way for me to have both kits recognized as one in my DAW (FL Studio 20)with Addictive Drums 2? I have a picture but I could not figure out how to post it here.

[@BeneathVultures]

@@chuckh5722 , this is all theoretical and will take some trial and error, but I'm pretty sure it's possible. Map the midi devices to the same input channel that your software drum kit is on. You will probably have to remap one kit completely. That's the most info I can provide on this. It's logical...I just haven't tried it.

[@jonahpaz.]

EZdrummer 2 or Superior Drummer 2?

[@Wartezimmer]

What computer are you currently using? Specs appreciated.

[@BeneathVultures]

It's a custom PC. i7 8700k, 16GB DDR4 RAM, some midrange Sapphire video card, ASUS mobo. I actually touch on this briefly in my upcoming studio tour video that I'm releasing later today. Keep an eye out for it. Thanks for watching man!

[@HoboInASuit4Tune]

What is it with metal and Sonar Cakewalk? Haha, nearly all the metal musicians I know record with that. Or Reason. Anyhow; are you on the free Cakewalk by BandLab now? How are your experiences with it?

[@BeneathVultures]

Lol I dunno man, but I know what you're talking about. I'm sure there's a correlation there somehow. I've always loved the workflow with Sonar...and I totally still use reason too. Ha! Yeah, I moved to BandLab and it is F'N STELLAR! There are constant app updates that give new features and fix bugs...and speaking of.they have fixed so many old bugs that Sonar refused to acknowledge.

[@crgl2009]

This was great but what about the actual recording ? Midi sync issues etc ?

[@BeneathVultures]

Do you mean the actual audio recording of the drums from the drum software? If so, that shouldn't be necessary because the midi will play on the drum software during track playback and will just get mixed down on your final mix. If you experience midi note dropouts (missing drum hits) during playback, you may want to "freeze" the track (sort of like bouncing down the midi to an audio track) to cut down on processing power. As far as midi sync issues, I assume you mean latency. That's just the lag during the live performance only. Notes are still recorded exactly like they're played, but what you hear while you're playing is slightly behind. That's why it's important to mix your drum kit's built in sounds with the track playback during recording and mute the software so the latency doesn't throw you off. Not sure if that's what you meant with your questions, but hopefully that clears it up a bit.

[@pjdahmen]

great

[@jethroviloria18]

Linus you have another channel?

[@cleverestx]

Your HOW TO video series bit.ly/cg-ap101-se is down....any chance that's being re-created?

[@BeneathVultures]

Apologies for the late response. Your comment got caught by the KZbin spam filter and I just saw it. I changed domains. You can find the article here (keep in mind that this is a little old, but the information is still relevant): chadedwardmusic.com/audio-production-equipment-software-newbie-series/

[@Bromoteknada]

is this the Linus Music Tips channel?

[@BeneathVultures]

😆

[@haldasinger6440]

was at 666 likes so I just left it . . .

[@frankm5150]

Answer starts at 7:20

[@KitCatStudio]

great vid , very helpful! I'm using Tm6pro and triggers, do I also need to use a drum sampling software ? tnx alt!!

[@BeneathVultures]

Thanks. It kind of depends on what you're doing with it. You could treat it the same way I treated my module in this video where you record the MIDI to something like Superior Drummer. ...or if you really want to use the sounds on the Tm6-Pro, you can record the MIDI from this module onto your computer, tweak as needed, and then route it back to the module via USB MIDI. Pretty sure you can do that with this module. Then just record the audio out in your DAW. Hope that helps.

[@KitCatStudio]

Chad Edward - Songwriter/Audio Producer cool that really helps! I decided to go ahead and try working with EZdrummer. Can I break the midi into regular audio channels, or does it have to stay midi ( even if really good samples from EZ) I want to give my costumers full audio channels of the project. Tnx a lot your video inspired me to try out this kind of system 😎😊🥁

[@Slevinlobell]

Ha..I have that same Friday the 13th shirt..cool vid too

[@MrBeen992]

No word about latency ?

[@BeneathVultures]

I do mention this a couple times in the video. That's why you need a mixer - you combine your module's internal sounds with your interface output in your headphones so you don't have to deal with the drum software's latency when you're performing. Hope that helps.

[@MigzMigz35]

this video is to hard to understand

[@BeneathVultures]

Noted.

[@Flarbsb]

you look a lil bit like corey taylor

[@lucyferina]

You make this explanation unnecessarily complicated by adding repeaters and extra devices, with that particular module it can be done with a laptop and headphones, no need for the extra cables , extra mouse, etc.

[@BeneathVultures]

This is not about being compact or simple. This is about creating a workflow in a dedicated studio with high production rate.

[@lucyferina]

In which case you will really build a dedicated computer, have a drumset that remains stationary and all other peripherals will then be added as needed, that can still be done for relatively cheap, of course the idea is to upgrade as you go based on needs vs wants, that is the mistake that many people do , they spend all of their budget on a single thing then production stops....

[@kevinsundelin8639]

@@lucyferina lol