A Brief History - A Complete Guide To Time Lord Victorious : Part 1 - The Eighth & Ninth Doctors

The TimeLord Victorious is an ambitious multi-platform story, however with so many different pieces it’s hard to know where to start, and once you have what order things go in…so hopefully this helps!
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[@CaptainJimiPie]

*_IMPORTANT INFORMATION : Please read before commenting_* *NOTICE :* Please don't post "Pepe Silva" references, they will be deleted. Don't get me wrong I'm all for a joke, but I made that joke myself on Twitter before even starting this chart. It's a meme, we get it, but I put a lot of work into this chart and so having people make that joke again in the comments, like they're the first person to do it is not only mildly annoying but also feels a like a bit of a slap in face to me that people would rather make meme references than appreciate my work. Check out the other parts here : *PART 2 :* kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4Gwf62FhtCeZtU *PART 3 :* COMING SOON Additional narrative links can be found here : *What The TARDIS Thought Of The TimeLord Victorious :* www.doctorwho.tv/news/?article=tardis-time-lord-victorious-short-story-waters-of-mars *Canaries :* www.doctorwho.tv/news/?article=exclusive-time-lord-victorious-canaries *_SPOILER WARNING : The below contains details about the Time Fracture event_* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . During the events of Time Fracture a "multi-Doctor event" occurs, which is the only instances of The Eighth & Ninth Doctor's being involved in the story. As such this does not change their timeline in the video, but for the purposes of completion this event likely occurs some time AFTER they have travelled into Dark Times via the fracture.

[@jorgnocke991]

The Fairies' Path (Fate: the Winx Saga, please can you read this book can you make a video about this book please thank you for your time please keep up your amazing world stay safe and live long and prosper

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Sorry but that's not something I'd do, simply because it's not something that's of interest to me.

[@keelanbarron928]

"Pepe Silva"? What?

[@CaptainJimiPie]

@@keelanbarron928 It's a reference to a meme from Always Sunny where one of the characters creates a bit wall chart linking things. So of course the moment I try to do something serious using a similar method people decided to constant make that reference like they're the first ones to do it.

[@LLT8]

The Time Lord Victorious series was my fist adventure into Big Finish and audio in general. The Eighth Doctor’s first TLV story is a really good jumping on point for new listeners.

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Whilst it is a good story which doesn’t need any PRIOR knowledge, personally I wouldn’t recommend it as a starting point for new listeners as it does rather rely on needing to follow subsequent stories and therefore other expanded media to really make sense of the plot, as it’s not really a stand alone story in its own right but the first of a trilogy, with other parts in between. I’ve always recommended Blood Of The Daleks as a starting point for Big Finish, simply because it doesn’t require prior knowledge but also has an actual ending of it own, without needing to listen to subsequent stories

[@TheEndlessBlade00]

This is 100% needed. Doing gods work.

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Thanks! It was ALOT to work through, and I've still got more to go but I'm happy with how it's coming together!

[@SonicTimewarp]

I’m curious how the Four Doctors fits into this. The only thing I can think of at the moment is the alternate reality shown to 10 about becoming Time Lord Victorious through different means.

[@CaptainJimiPie]

That's pretty much it, it's not actually part of the main TLV series but again I'm trying to fit in everything I can in terms of placement

[@shotgunn3535]

I feel like there wasn't enough of an official exploration for how TLV would work, so thank you for making this series.

[@CaptainJimiPie]

No worries, and I agree, it was good that they released the guide to each timeline, and I appreciate they didn't want to give away too many story details, but I think when you've got THAT much content, it's necessary to at least give SOME details to the audience

[@thephoenixsystem6765]

My god. Two thirds of the way through the video and... Hats off. I'm absolutely bowled over at your ability to explain all this in so very few shots. Are you a teacher or something?

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Thanks and no but it helps to script everything out first, and as I say I don't want to give away too many spoilers for those who may want to experience the material themselves :)

[@An_Awful_Jack]

This is going to end up like Charlie in Always Sunny by part 3 right?

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Pretty much haha I made that joke on Twitter myself before I started

[@NM-fw5zr]

This has to be one of the biggest ARG I have ever seen

[@CaptainJimiPie]

I’ve seen a few that went bigger in terms of amount of content but this is probably the biggest in terms of difference of content

[@CrossoverKid92]

I think I'm going to need to watch these with a note pad and paper. I need to makebsome lists....I've been curious about this....series for a while so I am grateful that you've done this :D

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Thanks, it's actually fairly simple once you have everything together, but I think the amount of media makes it more complex than it is

[@cybersonic8472]

So I have been trying to find a comprehensive list of everything and a timeline and yours is about the best. Is there any chance you might release a chart or pictures of your billboard to go along with this video

[@CaptainJimiPie]

I might put an image of it up on my Twitter when it's finished but to be honest it won't really show anything more than is already shown in these videos

[@mandroid-rb4uy]

Hello Captain JimPie you are a genius level Tactician Dalek🤩 taking into account all the timelines yet comprehensive and complete Davros would be envious 🤣 thanks

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Thanks!

[@Menagerie_OS]

I wish they'd just make an official chronological set for all this and explain how each fits in, but at this point its just gotten so twisted and folded that there's almost no point in even trying to understand it, which is a shame because Timelord Victorious is the greatest storyline doctor who has ever had. The greatest concept, the greatest characters, all down the drain because they couldn't organize it properly and instead relied on us to. (Edit: im not angry at you, I'm angry at the studios for making this story arc such an unorganized mess.)

[@CaptainJimiPie]

I am inclined to agree to an extent, they have produced their own timeline guides but the problem is that none of them are COMPLETELY comprehensive, and even those that are is a rather disorganised.

[@williamwebster9437]

I really love your hair style.

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Thanks, although I'm not really styling it to be honest haha I haven't seen my partner since before xmas, so for a laugh I said I'd let my hair grow out until I see her nex

[@charlierenwick3682]

I just wanted to know what the 10th doctor did in between Waters of Mars and End of Time Pt1. Didn’t know i had stumbled onto a fucking minefield of complex, multimedia stories

[@CaptainJimiPie]

I hope it's proved useful for you!

[@Paul_M_Bradley]

TLV should come with a health warning for increased risk of brain aneurysm.

[@CaptainJimiPie]

It's actually fairly simple to understand once you get the right order, it's just looks more complex than it is due to the amount of media there is

[@millievariants]

This Video Is Amazing!

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Thanks!

[@tn889]

Great video. Love your content! Although, one thing that I think would improve your videos would be the use of more music other than playing the same track throughout the entire 25 minutes. It gets a little bit jarring.

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Thanks and unfortunately due to the way music copyright works on KZbin I tend to have to use loops to avoid videos getting flagged. And the music is necessary itself to help disguise background noise that I can otherwise remove such as traffic noise as I Iive on a main road

[@bananess_]

how much do you need to do it in order? i kinda want to read the two novels on their own but idk if i can or not

[@CaptainJimiPie]

To be honest there isn't really any FULL version of the story in it's entirety without going all over the place. You CAN read the two novels and get the general story itself, but there will be minor references and things that you will miss

[@iain9757]

I haven’t taken part in the Time Lord Victorious because the Radio Times basically admitted it was a marketing ploy but I can’t think of anyone who really LOVED it. It felt too expansive & therefore off putting for people who weren’t into the expanded media & it felt too basic for fans already into the EU

[@CaptainJimiPie]

With all due respect it's a bit unfair to form an opinion of it when by your own admission you haven't looked into it. I'm not sure why the Radio Times would "admit" that given they don't have any influence over it, that sounds more like a review opinion than fact. As for those loving it, I might have my criticisms of it like any fan but narrative wise I'm enjoying it a lot so far,. I will concede that it is a bit TOO expansive in it's own way, and if you don't know the expanded media it can be very daunting, but so far in my experience of it that's only if you want to collect EVERYTHING to do with it, otherwise it's pretty much fairly simply and easy to get hold of things, and caters to those who do tackle the expanded media, and even for those who don't there is something to suit everyone.

[@raycejones9290]

Didn't one of Captain Jack's stories involve the vampire queen?

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Probably a different vampire queen, as there have been several and not even of the same species as Vampires exist in the Doctor Who universe, as both specific species of old beings, as well as general term for the mythical creature which exists in several different forms.

[@raycejones2397]

@@CaptainJimiPie I just remember Jack mentioning that they went to war with the Time Lords lol

[@CaptainJimiPie]

Ah ok, then probably the same species as The Great Vampires but not the exactly the same ones