A Brief History Lesson on Alcohol with Author Edward Slingerland

Taken from JRE #1663 w/Edward Slingerland:
open.spotify.com/episode/08Po...

[@snakething87]

Guest: *mentions gobekli tepe* Joe: “You know I’m something of a scientist myself.”

[@__________f9433]

😂😂😂

[@cjf5412]

But was surprised about the alcohol content of booze thousands of years ago.

[@drakeballas1092]

@@cjf5412 what?

[@DeuceGenius]

thats why i watch the damn show

[@dtwelve2086]

😂🤣 😹

[@midir7637]

“Have you heard of Gobekli Tepe?” Joe: 'Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch. I was there when they were written''

[@capealio]

Gandolf?

[@HarryJ10]

🤣🤣

[@BradyandJayde]

@@capealio Close... Narnia

[@insomnyuk]

@@BradyandJayde Really close, Tolkien and Lewis were pals.

[@jefflabbecomedy]

These comments are sizing up like a wizard duel...

[@HaleStorm49]

The craziest thing about being a non-drinker is that people make fun of you for about 15 years...then the same people congratulate each other for giving it up for the next 30 years.

[@cheesenoff8158]

That’s a you issue bro

[@mike7984]

@@cheesenoff8158 lol? I drink but he sounds about right.

[@MEZ92]

@@mike7984 Cheesnoff meant to say is that not everyone falls victims to vices. He just wrote it rude lol

[@egrogan6482]

@@MEZ92 Alcohlism is not so much a "vice" as a disease and an addiction. Huge difference.

[@fungi42021]

drunks will be drunks

[@Ac0ustics0ul]

Any terrible thing that's ever happened in my life, 90% of the time has been because alcohol was involved..gave that sh*t up 7 years ago

[@urmom69789]

good job. I can relate. It's crazy finding this video (well, not that crazy when you consider the algorithms that run the internet), but I was just thinking the other day that beer is too strong and humans probably aren't supposed to be able to handle it, but it does have some mind-opening properties. If humans were drinking beer that was only 2-3 percent, it was probably much more tolerable.

[@BMAN-qt3ro]

Good for you. I'm struggling now

[@gregoryjarvis1943]

@@BMAN-qt3ro you got this ! One day at a time

[@Jake.73]

Yep, 7yrs ago for me also.

[@kingcujo1152]

@@BMAN-qt3ro 1 day at a time champ.

[@canviis.design]

“Have you heard of Gobleki Tepe?” Famous last words.

[@rflanaganagan8489]

Here is everything I know about gobleki tepe..

[@josebarboza5652]

@Will Nate Give it

[@matthewrogers2521]

When he said it I immediately when to the comments to find this 😂😂

[@Humma_Kavula]

Fuck that was so annoying. He waqs just about to get on with his point and then joe wouldn't stfu for the rest of the clip. Like dog, he was literally in the middle of saying something.

[@1knowsnothing1]

Well done sir

[@tmass1]

when Joes wife wants to get him in the mood. softly whispers in his ear "gobekli tepe"

[@ScottJB]

And sometimes on Valentine's day or his bday she whispers "erosion on the sphinx is at least 10,000 years old"

[@User_32]

@@ScottJB "Joe, did you know there was a mass extinction event 12,000 years ago?"

[@GD-tn3ez]

And on his birthday she whispers three letters in his ear: D…M…T

[@1986Sane]

“DMT”

[@jordanevans3889]

Elk Steak

[@farberam]

I’m impressed at how much information he retains from his previous discussions

[@Artercay]

Joe is also more than likely reading more about those topics after the discussions end as well. Especially the ones he’s seriously interested in like Göbekli Tepe

[@Greksallad]

Yeah but that entire rant about Göbekli Tepe was 100% bullshit. Graham Hancock is a professional bullshitter and has no evidence for his ridiculous claims.

[@Artercay]

@@Greksallad Doesn’t Joe state multiple times it’s a theory. He’s not saying it’s fact😂.

[@Greksallad]

@@Artercay If there's absolutely no evidence to support this hypothesis, then why even mention it in the first place? You can't even call it speculation, it's legit just made up by some idiot. And don't pretend like he's stating it as if it weren't factual. Yeah, he says "this is just a theory" but that doesn't absolve him of anything. He's presenting it as if it's a legitimate albeit disputed theory with some merit. No, they're the insane ramblings of one buffoon and shouldn't be mentioned in a serious discussion about history.

[@Artercay]

@@Greksallad Joe says it’s a theory and is highly debated. That’s not stating something as fact… You say there is “absolutely” no evidence but shouldn’t there have to be some sort of information that doesn’t line up for someone to question it in the first place. Like the fact that Gobekli Tepe is 12,000 years old and its too complicated for it to exist in the time period that we designated 12,000 year old findings. That’s an actual fact that people question. Same goes for Atlantis which is the other part of Graham’s theory. Even the very definition of hypothesis is “…a proposed explanation on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.” The key part of that definition is “limited evidence”. You can disagree with him and not like his theory but to speak in absolutes is a bad idea. You’re actively criticizing and accusing them for stating the theory as fact when they aren’t and then proceed to make absolutes and state things as facts yourself when they aren’t. That’s hypocritical😂.

[@homelessman3483]

They used to freeze hard apple cider and scoop the alcohol off the top in cold places. It's called apple jack comes in at around 20%

[@Croalmiange]

They would be scraping the frozen water off the top, not alcohol. This leaves a more concentrated alcohol behind. Same way ice beer is made today

[@scottmiller9490]

It's called freeze concentrating. The alcohol content depends on how many times you freeze and seperate the product.

[@kinbolluck476]

How come it explodes

[@Grim0954]

@@kinbolluck476 Because alcohol is flammable?

[@ghidfg]

Guest: "So, there's this place called Gobleki Tepe.." Joe: "yeah, I'll take it from here."

[@MovingBlanketStudio]

hilarious haha

[@illskill6]

This

[@robertpruitt5704]

Joe: Jamie, hold my beer.

[@goodoljr1]

He must’ve been absolutely bursting to take over the conversation LMAO

[@brittanym2080]

Have you seen “Elon Musk meets Post Malone” It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂

[@jordannnaji5350]

“Have you heard of Gobleki Tepe?” Joe: “I AM GOBLEKI TEPE!”

[@JakeAllen3]

😂😂😂

[@capitatv]

Holy fk hahaha

[@macdorfingfyrslf]

"That's interesting..have u ever done D.M.T."?-J.R.

[@calebjaymes9710]

LIQUID MERCURY

[@MUFFINHEAD1985]

Pahahahaha

[@chrisgoosebrooks638]

I haven’t had a drink in almost two years. I initially stopped to take a break, but the more time I had to reflect, the more I realized it wasn’t for me. Nothing good came from drinking and I never realized how destructive it was in my life. Every instance was laughed off and hid behind the booze.

[@johnford9070]

I’m crushing a CL rn

[@doreencaputo2942]

My great grandfather used to make apple jack by getting barrels of cider, letting them ferment, and the allowing the whole barrel to freeze. Then he just drilled into the center and released the concentrated alcohol within

[@curtiskretzer8898]

Cousin stirred every day twice and skimmed on morning b4 1st stir. Eventually, nothing rises anymore and you have Jack

[@xCallOfDutyGitchesx]

“Have you heard of Gobekli Tepe?” *Joe Rogan starts convulsing.*

[@samreels137]

I understood this lol

[@Dildosoup]

GOBLEKI he kept saying.

[@howardhavardramberg7160]

lol

[@ZenithHeptone1109]

Haaaaaaaaaa

[@robertstone9988]

Joe it's called dmt ever heard of it?

[@TheLyricsGuy]

“Have you heard of Gobekli Tepe?” So you have chosen death.

[@little.wing.]

lmao xD best Gobekli Tepe comment yet

[@rflanaganagan8489]

You never should have come here!

[@petar932]

ok

[@cosmicman621]

😂😂😂

[@luckyb4541]

23 yrs sober. I was allergic to alcohol every time I drink it, I break out in handcuffs

[@winstonmakoare4969]

I'm a Maori Native from New Zealand I'm not too sure about the truth behind what I'm about to tell you but we had a type of berry need which Maori discovered when they observed birds and small mamals falling over disorientated after finding the source to be a large amount of berry's fermented in a naturally large bowl formed by the roots of the tree

[@thebibleisinfallible2336]

Amazing

[@aazo5]

Sounds like Good alcohol to me

[@melh9492]

there is a video on youtube of a bunch of animals in africa getting drunk off of fermenting fruit

[@jabiantakarua9347]

This is true bro, I'm from New Zealand. Blenheim. We learnt this from trial and error and death from exactly what you said. Chur

[@danielkopaee9241]

“That's the problem with drinking, I thought, as I poured myself a drink. If something bad happens you drink in an attempt to forget; if something good happens you drink in order to celebrate; and if nothing happens you drink to make something happen” Charles Bukowski

[@petar932]

"i only drink when there are celebrations, and when there aren't any" -a wise ass guy

[@timmylongstroke7812]

Damn right.

[@timturk1899]

Bukowski doing his thing. A timeless Legend with words!

[@AnnaLVajda]

Yeah everyone has their reasons but people have different tolerances and temperaments about it there are generally happy drunks and generally miserable ones but that has to do with their regular temperament too I think.

[@sambland3903]

Bukowski was ahead of his time.

[@piercingsbyjj]

"Joe, have you heard of this chemical called DMT? How about this fighting style called jiu-jitsu?"

[@sixhundred3score6]

Have you ever fought DMT on jiujitsu?

[@joshuatraffanstedt2695]

"Even a bjj practitioner after a weekend of dmt is no match for a chimp. They will FUCK you UP!"

[@gagansandhu2185]

@@joshuatraffanstedt2695 if you think they won’t. Well you my friend haven’t read the literature.

[@finished6267]

Ever studied chimp attacks joe?

[@finished6267]

@@joshuatraffanstedt2695 hahaah

[@yarpenzigrin1893]

The reason why beer was used is not because fermenting purifies the water. It's because the wort (unfermented beer) is boiled to extract sugars and that kills all the bacteria. Same thing with tea, it's became very popular partly because it was fashionable but also because it's made with boiled water so much safer.

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

Joe is a master at explaining things, he is able to translate every aspect of the topic of discussion in short order.

[@link6397]

Joe is a master Mason.

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

@@link6397 what’s a master mason? Please explain? I know my grandpa had a mason ring but no idea if this is what your talking about.

[@willwillisproductions159]

@@link6397think he is a 33rd degree yet?

[@dannyk7226]

he’s a boss

[@Yamaha.ha.ha.ha.]

​@@jacobhendrickson8935he's not a mason. 😂

[@quincee3376]

" Here's to alcohol!!! The cause of and solution to all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson

[@psychonaut1829]

Bart: Girls always ruin everything! Homer: Oh Bart..You say that now..But when your older you will just think it.

[@FamilyWinn]

No Homer credit to John Swartzwelder

[@day245]

Me and my dad have said this since it aired. Well done

[@chiefslinginbeef3641]

Lol I don't remember if it was Futurama or Simpson's but the futuristic Ireland before booze then after was great

[@HoomerbirdG2]

@@chiefslinginbeef3641 Futurama had an Octoberfest episode but the festival was refined and fry wasn’t having it got shitfaced than drank the beer tasting spit jug in a drunken stupor

[@damnatiomemoriae1894]

Our man made a big mistake bringing up gobekli tepe 😂😂😂 Rumor has it he's still trying to finish his story

[@galip8154]

Seriously!

[@bane8305]

Fuck man I hate tht shit I swear - Some ppl love hearing them selves talk i swear lmao

[@harrymothowl8923]

Right 😂😂😂

[@denverbritto5606]

I think it was a ploy cause he didnt wanna finish the story.

[@bane8305]

@@denverbritto5606 Definitley couldve been - I hate those type of people aswell who think they can just talk over you and make you forget your train of thought - then when you continue they try even harder to interupt

[@rodneyjarvis676]

Everyday an alcohol delivery truck pulls up at Congress . Every hospital has a liquor license so the alcoholic patient can be given alcohol to keep from going into DT's during extended hospital stay.

[@iblameshanemane9204]

Yep alcohol and Xanax are the only two drugs that the detox can kill you from or so I hear at least

[@eltondzon9332]

@@iblameshanemane9204 alcohol and benzodiazepines (xanax is one of them)

[@bobo-bx8yj]

@@eltondzon9332 there are others in which the withdrawal can kill you ie barbiturates and probably many more medications but of the commonly used/abused recreational drugs that's true. Barbiturates, benzos and alcohol all cause inhibition primarily by stimulation of GABA. Benzos, barbiturates and alcohol withdrawal are all quite similar in regards to seizures and delirium tremens although alcohol has additional negative physical effects

[@eltondzon9332]

@@bobo-bx8yj yea barbs too but they arent used these days

[@inspector5481]

Wth is “going into DT”? Why do all these internet people got to make up abbreviations for everything now 🤦‍♂️

[@nrg6245]

You gotta love the videos like this that teach you something actually very useful and is something you don’t hear often. I prefer the videos over the Spotify audios.

[@MahoneyBadger]

He shoulda just said, “so there was this really old place, I don’t remember the name.”

[@weeblewobble2933]

This is the only correct way to handle this "Roganesque" type situation. If you foolishly give too much identifying info on anything that took place longer than 1 month ago prepare to witness Rogan go balls deep spiritually in his asterally projected self at the alter of knowledge.

[@joseluiscampos7662]

Should have* ;)

[@TyroneOne]

@@joseluiscampos7662 shoulda*

[@joseluiscampos7662]

@@TyroneOne try it some time aye?

[@JCrownMusic]

@@joseluiscampos7662 "shoulda" is a shortened version of "should've" that comes across as less formal. "should of" is an actual misconception where someone doesn't know the correct words to communicate what they mean to say.

[@mraBJJ33]

Guy: mentions Göbeklitepe Joe: *mouth waters*

[@jehjeh37111]

You can almost see the gears spinning in Joe’s head, trying to figure out how to bring up DMT.

[@ricpotp4473]

Twelf thoushand yrrrrsagow

[@lordmaximus5]

Its so funny seeing him regurgitate what someone said on a previous podcast to try and sound smart. If the other guy asked a single question he wouldn't have a clue.

[@aarontaylor2599]

Then Graham hancock walks in like he was summoned

[@drfeelgordo]

Other guy: hmm. Ok. Ok. Oh.

[@Romie15]

This is one of my favourite episodes! I listened to it when it came out and I always go back to listen for a few bits here and there. The funny thing is that I'm not much of a drinker hahaha

[@ghostline6416]

Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life.” G.B. Shaw

[@emh8861]

You got that right!

[@daveware4117]

Great quote

[@kimberlykay130]

George Bernard Shaw was as much a genocidal monster as Adolf Hitler JD Rockefeller Lenin Stalin & Mao… Enter into your KZbin search George Bernard Shaw “there are quite a number of people that I really want to kill…” he made that speech several times not just for that video. If you watch the video you’ll hear him state that all people should have to go before a regulatory board every 5 years or so & PROVE THEY DESERVE TO CONTINUE TO LIVE are they producing the resources it requires to sustain their own lives or perhaps a little more? IF NOT then those people are a burden on society and should be killed as their lives are no good to society and not any good for themselves, either. He was saying all of that back before that zyclon B gas was developed that the Nazis used in those camps GBS wanted the scientists to develop a painless gas that could quickly kill people, painlessly then he wanted to line them up for to be killed …maybe play some orchestra music for them while they waited… That man was a MONSTER!

[@juansan6330]

Alcohol is a drug that is an addictive poison to many. There are better ways to deal with the stressors of life.

[@coolsoundsandmusic2032]

'I drink to make other people more interesting.' - Ernest Hemingway

[@JT-jb4mr]

What an arrogant comment

[@phredphlintstone6455]

@@JT-jb4mr what an uninteresting comment

[@thedudegrowsfood284]

I am stealing this comment. (Hemingway, that is.)

[@andthereisntone3454]

'And because I'm an alcoholic.' - Ernest Hemingway

[@conservativevoice1164]

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[@TheLyricsGuy]

*Joe Rogan goes on 5 minute Gobekli Tepe rant* “So yeah, anyways, beer...”

[@Kampbell300]

Yeah that dude had no interest in thinking about what joe said because it basically shat on his entire theory 😂

[@TedBackus]

the biggest mistakes, in alcohol, or in drugs, is outlawing the substances. prohibition is SUCH a huge mistake, because people will do what they want, regardless of the risk & all prohibition does is cause added dangers & factors which impact not only users but society in a negative way

[@Turner9090]

If you wanna know what drinking was like in 1776 America read the Journal of Nicholas Cresswell, there’s a really interesting period in the book where him and several others are getting drunk almost nightly, making terrible mistakes socially and then regretting in the morning. Then wash rinse and repeat…Really interesting stuff.

[@pahwraith]

Sounds like me on vacation. 😅

[@zell608]

@@pahwraith sounds like me as well lol

[@eliasrosales7647]

sounds like me everyday

[@FluffyBunnySlippers]

You’re so smart

[@joshuazoldschool4720]

I'm pushing 8 years since I've touched the bottle. Took my last drink the day the Seahawks won the Superbowl and it's the best choice I ever made. Was a shitty drink for years, and although life didn't instantly change, just waking up without the shakes is worth the price of admission for this guy. Stay Safe Brothers🤞😁👍

[@CK-lq5gm]

Im going on 8 years myself...congrats!

[@beautifulwithbrain8827]

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[@beautifulwithbrain8827]

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[@Kman31ca]

Congrats dude! 👍👍

[@saccaed]

Good to hear. Everyone needs to do what's best for them even if it may mean dropping some habit that may otherwise be common.

[@chippewaguy4193]

3:00 I’ve never in my life finished my beer and waited for my friends to finish theirs before I get another.

[@lancescott1453]

If you ain’t first your last😂guzzle that thang and get another

[@robbieg3766]

Ok

[@evilscotsman495]

You don't start another round before the rest of the lads!

[@SlapRoundTheChops]

@@evilscotsman495 what a load of pish. If the lads are fucking up the round then you buy your own

[@TheDrunkMunk]

Weird, that's pretty abnormal where I live. Are you American?

[@phillynch9514]

Very enjoyable to listen to. These type of episodes are great.

[@yamilandres]

Guy comes to talk about alcohol, and Joe educates him on Gobelki Tepe. Love it.

[@afout07]

"why do we put poisons in our body?" *to get riggity riggity wrecked son*

[@jugsy7305]

Lmfao 🤣

[@ivatrump6000]

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[@ivatrump6000]

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[@thomaslewis2336]

you're goddamn right

[@daveythesearcher]

🥴💀😂

[@Evanderj]

bringing up Gobleki Tepe to Joe is like when a guest name drops a celebrity, and Joe is like: Ah! Do you know him? No? Great guy, he gave me this flame thrower when we were elk hunting in Utah on psychoactives. I'll tell you what he looks like naked when we are off air.

[@majormoogles]

😂😂😂

[@bryantsmith7410]

Bro. You didn't have to go that hard 😂 damn

[@del343434]

My man is going hard 🤣🤣🤣

[@xyzlmno4631]

"Bro you went so hard omfg hard bro."

[@TheUcboi]

@@xyzlmno4631 dang I’m hard now

[@ixKiLLxZ0MBi3Z]

Talking about the history of the impacts on earth, makes me want to know so much about everything that’s ever happened to this place that we’re on

[@bryanstellfox8521]

Btw, to answer Joe's question, distilled wine is called Grappa. Very popular in Italy and the Mediterranean as a digestif, a drink to end your meal and settle your stomach.

[@bradchirdaris2190]

Brandy

[@ronnocmongoose9526]

If you make wine with a whole cluster fermentation approach, after you press the grapes there is still a decent amount of alcohol in the skins. Instead of using as compost, you can add water and distill the skins and get Grappa. Every part of the buffalo kind of idea.

[@FluffyBunnySlippers]

No, it’s called distilled wine

[@bryanstellfox8521]

@@bradchirdaris2190 In the English speaking world, I would definitely agree with that. I guess it's like a lot of things, words are different depending on the region you're from. But Brandy is definitely a distilled wine liquor, you are correct.

[@bryanstellfox8521]

@@ronnocmongoose9526 Yes, traditionally, Grappa is made from the skins, seeds, etc after pressing. But today, much of the Grappa is just pure distilled wine, as people enjoyed it so much it became profitable. Any time someone says every part of the buffalo, it reminds me of a visit to America, when I was in a museum and saw native artifacts...I remember a baby rattle made of buffalo scrotum haha

[@wander4235]

"“Have you heard of Gobekli Tepe?”" *Joe's pupils dilate*

[@musek5048]

how familiar are you with the gear wars?

[@carcol04]

@@musek5048 🦗😂hahahah your lucky ive started watching rick and morty

[@Oxxsteel]

😅😅😅😅

[@itsdweezy]

"Its really hard to distill technologically wise" West Virginia: Hold my moonshine

[@WHiT3_SHAD0W]

Right, they go do it in the woods with a fire lol

[@brianpeterson5516]

And the blue ridge mountains of north Carolina.

[@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk]

I think he vastly underestimates what man, even ancient man, can do when the motivation is to get some chicks drunk and have sex.

[@chronicsnail6675]

@@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk lol they didn't need to women were promiscuous

[@wh5027]

Here in the Moonshine Capitol of the world in SW Virginia people have been doing it for ages without vast technology and pretty damn good at it too.

[@jamesdelcol3701]

Are you guys aware of the history archive you are building? It really is worthy of a doctoral or an honorary doctoral. The JRE archive is going to be something history students study for years to come. Because this is what professional historians do. I watched footage from WWI, WWII, Social Movements and I read a lot of newspaper articles from 1885-1905. We analyze all the information and media with many resources corroborating and other scholarship arguments. This creates a solid base for a scholar. JRE is going to be that for a long time. That is an amazing legacy. You guys are going to inform people with this material for a long time. It is a treasure trove. Americans were drunk. The kids were drunk more often than now. The expression "Crazy kids" was a reference to drunk kids all the way until the 1960's. 🤣

[@pedrollex3308]

u are delusional

[@shahramahmad36]

Agreed. Could you expand on how JRE could be studied let's say 50 years into the future?

[@phuckmasterphresh]

Collaborating..

[@noahboucher125]

"Alright, class, was Joe staying on topic this episode? Do you think he even understood what the guest was talking about?"

[@tankeater]

Had a neighbors brother in law trying different wine recipes from his orchard. He had dozens of boxes that was "bad mixes." We put it in a copper distillery, let it sit at roughly 187... After the first drip dump, that 1st jar, had to be 180 proof!!!

[@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk]

“it’s really difficult” I think this guy underestimates what a man can accomplish when he’s motivated by the opportunity to party with drunk chicks.

[@shyglizzyjr7240]

😂😂

[@chicoktc]

Distillation is really easy, I don't know what he's talking about.

[@yonidellarocha9714]

Are you saying partying was invented by gardening and distillation nerds? It actually makes sense that someone who is not very apt at hunting would grow grains and try to come up with something new. It really goes with the stereotype of the hunter gatherer Chad vs the famished farmer weakling. Something or another about persians and scytians... Or mongols and chinese, or germanic and romans, or thracians vs greeks, or khemet vs everyone...

[@Zure467]

@@chicoktc crafting the stills back then.

[@clarkpalace]

Lol! But he said - i think they were motivated to get high rather then make bread

[@manuelbonilla1638]

12,000 years ago Joe Rogan full episodes were all on You Tube.

[@larsraum]

Then Spotify covered it on purpose

[@HaloDude557]

they're archived

[@richiecalif399]

@@HaloDude557 not all of em

[@greenderp]

funny thing is dude is doing his shows on spotify and uploads random clips like this so losers can make their little comments and hes banking off just comments on youtube lol. so its confirmed youtube are just a bunch of cucks who like being the side bitch.

[@manuelbonilla1638]

@@richiecalif399 thats a good description of yourself.

[@williambathwise9997]

Fascinating to watch two people continue to talk amicably despite both just stating diametrically opposed conclusions from the data that by definition cause the other proposition to be negated

[@elvincolon2896]

Very well put lol

[@dogman5791]

So in other words a debate

[@robertportz7502]

I love when Edward has Joe on his podcast

[@marvincool3744]

"In a pub you don't drink as much as you want" Me: *wut*

[@Syzygy77]

Usually, for me at the pub, it’s my wallet that determines my limit.

[@longy88]

He’s not been to England has he 😂😂

[@paulhennessey3454]

🤣

[@jacko4693]

"just going for the one"

[@acidfruitloops]

@@jacko4693 having the 1, and 1 for dessert

[@james4wd236]

"Heard of Gobleki Tepe" Joe: "I'm gonna end this man's whole career"

[@champ5662]

The guy was like ok so they were Hunter gatherers and totally disregarded Joe’s bullshit he tried to remember from Hancock 😂😂😂

[@rambomoore381]

I don't get it

[@Oxxsteel]

😅😅😅😅

[@Kampbell300]

@@champ5662 what was bullshit? 😂

[@jimmybeanchugger1832]

@@Oxxsteel u don’t get it because it’s a meme/joke reference used incorrectly and in the wrong context. It’s akin to someone making a reference to the space alien Avatar film while talking about a romance Novel. This is just someone trying to be funny or clever using all reference they do not understand fundamentally

[@DankSwegSkuxxXhayel]

It sort of makes sense how people were drinking so often historically if the percentages were so low, makes even more sense as to the prestige around wine given it naturally reaches higher levels

[@jamesbayer6042]

I drank a bottle of 100 proff vodka every single day from age 20 to age30 and when I finally ended up in hospital for awile almost died many time finally had to learn to walk again from being in bed my vision has gone by 50% lost toes organs messed up all kinds of health problem but I have been sober 10 years mainly due to weed

[@samwoodsywoods]

Imagine asking Joe Rogan if he knows what Göbeklitepe is😂

[@adityabali1939]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[@billballinger5622]

Lol might as well have asked him if he know what a chimpanzee or a coyote is

[@beautifulwithbrain8827]

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[@beautifulwithbrain8827]

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[@royalty_the1892]

”Heya Joe, do you know what elk meat seared with some jalapeno tastes like?”

[@siriusfun]

7:52 - Joe feeling the effects of distillation.

[@JohnStockton7459]

Stop it

[@tysondouglas4766]

Twelve Thoushi South

[@HaikesXO]

5:59 idk why but Joe’s face had me dying 😂

[@avarmauk]

Alcohol moderation never quite reached the uk. Saw a guy the other day down a yard of ale (2.5 pints or 1.2 litres) in around 15 secs, then proceeded to throw it all up onto a black bag on the floor, which his friends then pushed him into straight after.

[@brian6391]

The beer is really weak in the uk though that's why people are always chugging pints and puking it up because they're full before they're drunk.

[@pahwraith]

@@brian6391 they have whiskey tho. Whats wrong with them. 😮

[@ejlhejlh6689]

As a recovering alcoholic this is actually a quite fascinating topic. I love learning why and how we got to this point in our evolution when it comes to substances. Great conversation!

[@deweyplanck9850]

To me drinking was like making love to a skunk. I never got all I wanted just all I could stand.

[@usctrojanfreak]

@@deweyplanck9850 Bro?

[@deweyplanck9850]

@@usctrojanfreak just messing with people man.

[@Last_Chance.]

@@deweyplanck9850 😭

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

The conversation seemed to be heading in the direction of addressing alcoholism before Joe totally derailed it it 😮‍💨

[@winnipegmusiclessons5023]

I quit alcohol 3 years ago and haven't looked back! Best.decision.ever. Now, where's my bong??? ;)

[@humanperson5153]

same.

[@yakob-g]

Keep it going bro, passing you the virtual joint

[@CrazyLocoInsane1]

Smoke in your lungs is that much better than a few beers?

[@billballinger5622]

@@CrazyLocoInsane1 through a bong yes. Or better yet clean dabs no smoke

[@dxbrasky]

Swapping one destructive addiction for another. Congrats!

[@charlesterrizzi8311]

Winston Churchill said don’t drink whiskey straight like that, mix that stuff, I agree, it’s a little rough on the digestive system

[@FluffyBunnySlippers]

@ss

[@madlad1.]

Started brewing with bakers yeast at 15, turbo yeast that got up to 20% at 16 and distilling at 17. Got my shine up to 90% on a triple distill, just used a simple water distiller then stopped it once alcohol was no longer coming out.

[@RosinGoblin]

Isn't 3 Floyds Dark Lord like 21%

[@Ohsnapski]

The whole beer before agriculture makes a lot of sense to me. You can just look at the tribes living in the Amazon or anywhere remote. They aren’t really growing anything but every tribe has their own “special drink” that they ferment

[@coolcat1530]

Or drug or hallucinogen lmao. There are some animals that get high too. I know some species of lemur eat millipedes that shoot out cyanide. They do it to get high lmao.

[@TheCharlie1701]

@@coolcat1530 and some dolphins suck jellyfish to get high. Makes sense to me. I didn't start to get my shit together til I wanted my own place to get baked at.

[@ezion6032]

Exactly!

[@theonlyconstantischange123]

@diane Taylor but are u sure???

[@Packitagain.]

@@coolcat1530 Dolphins, Monkeys, Tigers, Dogs, and even Ants partake in recreational substance use and have been observed doing so on multiple occasions.

[@jopo7996]

These KZbin clips are great at distilling the information from the Spotify podcast.

[@Not_So_Super_Mario]

👌 very punny

[@Knxruss]

This will be known as the timeframe where Joe’s head pads on his headphones were perfectly aligned. Later versions will be known as the single pad era.

[@justgone123]

My uncle taught me how to make moonshine although I haven't done it since he died in 2017. I don't even drink enough to be motivated to make it however I remember liking dandelion/honeysuckle. It was very nice!

[@breakoutgaffe4027]

“Have you heard of Gobekli Tepe?” ***Imanari rolls under desk, into heel hook

[@grimaffiliations3671]

Best one yet

[@chrismarquez2695]

i imagined a cartoon rogan rolling and heel hooking this dude and it make crack up , best comment yet

[@petarvodenski5477]

Hahahahahahah

[@donk525]

“We socially regulate our drinking” Come to England and you’ll see how wrong that statement is 😂

[@tomben6180]

You can order pints to your table via an app now in my local, it just keeps coming with no break in between each one.

[@chrisgould101]

Come to NZ or aus you will be socially regulated to drink

[@bedadays1763]

@@chrisgould101 how much do they let you have?

[@chrisgould101]

@@bedadays1763 as it should be as much as you want. Unless your stumbling in the door or causing a big scene usually it's fine.

[@bedadays1763]

@@chrisgould101 ok Tx man

[@Trailerwalker]

If they can make alcohol in jail in the bottom of a trash can I’m convinced alcohol has been around for a very, very long time 😂

[@jamalelhamdigarcia190]

🤣

[@yuiopoli9601]

The day I stopped drinking was the exact day I stopped going to jail! If your life is problematic try going just one year without alcohol and see if your problems don't go away! YOU CAN DO IT!

[@johnhoneck2973]

Poor guy is just trying to talk about his book and Joe's like "Yeah but Graham Hancock says......"

[@wasabista1613]

Slingerland: "So these hunter-gatherers were making beer at Gobekli Tepe…" OH NO DEY WERENT

[@saucelord780]

@@wasabista1613 😂😂😂

[@OffGridInvestor]

That "poor guy" is TOTALLY WRONG on wine yet wrote a book on the history of alcohol.... he's full of crap on something he should be an expert on

[@thedondaithi1304]

Humans making beer before we had agriculture, proof that life is rough! 😂😂

[@Ravishrex1]

Thats why we have Agriculture

[@thedondaithi1304]

@@Ravishrex1 because we got drunk? 😂😂

[@tylerp5839]

@@thedondaithi1304 I can see how if a couple tribes really liked to drink, theyd focus effort on making lots of it, eventually organizing and civilizing

[@thedondaithi1304]

@@tylerp5839 ahhhhhh I see 🤔 yeah I can get down with that theory, nuts though isn’t it 😂😂

[@tylerp5839]

@@thedondaithi1304 might explain why we enjoy getting intoxicated so much, weve adapted to release endorphins when we drink. who knows though, im just a plumber :)

[@redskywalker3374]

Respect to all the good you do Joe , You really allow a variety of people to the table & they all bring their voice to the show ...Real American , truly .. 😊 That looks like a bottle of Buffalo Trace ..been a while

[@BabyKMoney]

I’m

[@aaronbeardsley3261]

I fucking hate when people comment as if Joe's on the other side in his briefs slowly nodding and smiling at their comment.

[@redskywalker3374]

@@aaronbeardsley3261 I don't expect JR to see my comment , but you did, so now you know what I was thinking ..something positive , uplifting , rather than being a critic trolling a threader

[@aaronbeardsley3261]

@Red Skywalker @Red Skywalker And it's annoying. Almost nowhere in the YT comment section will you find anyone discussing anything about the subject at hand. 99% are people like you with their pom poms spouting off the same I love you lines to Joe rogan. Back in the day you'd find hundreds of top comments on JRE vids discussing point of views and throwing in facts. Now it's filtered to where you're seeing only new comments that are cherry picked by the algorithm to be nothing but cheerleaders like you. This is one of the reasons why the dude went to Spotify.

[@redskywalker3374]

@@aaronbeardsley3261 You don't even know me joker ..I have discussed topics in threads before with people & learned or they learned ..If I need your opinion , I'll ask

[@mrbusterpants]

In my younger days, while hiking Haley's Farm and it's winding trails, we would come across vines that will have grown there since the 18th century. Later in the year, one could come across bunches of fermenting grapes. A fun little buzz can be had enjoying their boldly sweet flavors.

[@FirstPhilWhisky]

For those interested: Distilled wine becomes brandy and distilled beer becomes malt whisky (generally, lots of exceptions). Edit: I also run a channel about whisky basics for those interested.

[@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk]

Yep. When he gave the ‘distilled liquor’ answer, which is technically correct, I thought to myself that he probably shouldn’t be writing about alcohol.

[@FirstPhilWhisky]

@@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk Yeah, it made it a little confusing when he could of given specific examples of spirits we all know. But you're right - he is technically correct.

[@county582]

Mmm brandy

[@loganfrost7439]

I just do coke and jack and I'm not talking about my drink

[@VirginiaWolf88]

Brandy Yum

[@Howlinglider]

This "beer before bread" theory is in line with the book, "Animals and Psychedelics" by Giorgio Samorini. A fun and fairly quick read filled with chapters each detailing a different species and their captivation with some form of intoxication. Worker ants providing free daycare to beetle larvae in exchange for a hit off the inebriating substance secreting from the adult's abdomen (They save these beetles before their own queen by the way). Tigers that will eat rotten durian fruit, but leave the gatherer who harvested it...

[@ahmedelakrab]

Noted.

[@Jayblazey]

Cause getting high is fun

[@DGMUSICisGOOD]

crazy. ive seen vids about people in africa and latin america just everywhere getting high chewing shit. in africa it makes their eyes blood red and they are all fucked up. pretty insane how much we want to change our states as humans. the western world does it w coffee and happy hours and cocaine. then the worse off world adds cigarettes and meth. the third world homebrews shit and moonshine.

[@raybp7512]

Oh sounds cool book. Thank you

[@raybp7512]

Oh sounds cool book. Thank you

[@Shipx7]

He talks about how strong alcohol didnt exist back in the day but fortified wine has been around for millennia, Odysseus even used it to trick the Cyclops. Freeze distillation has been used for as long as alcohol has been around to increase alcohol to modern standard levels (maybe not quite but close).

[@DaveAppleton]

The Gin craze in London started about 1730 and the Gin was about 30% ABV. People started drinking Gin and beer because the water made people sick. The Gin drinking became a massive problem for London with many of the poor becoming alcoholics.

[@Inertia888]

I'm sure there were plenty of alcoholic royalty as well. But the royalty was able to more easily find another jug of gin, some other medicine, or take a few days to lay in a room and be pampered, while the poor probably made the gossip around the circle. When the Duke wants to disappear, only his closest know. When the Town Baker is drunk in the square, or talking to shadows with DTs, everyone talks about him, and today we end up hearing the stories of those who couldn't hide it from the history books 😉🍸🍻

[@PHELCAN]

"And around 1700 AD thats when girlfriends realized they could start using it as an excuse to do anything at a club"

[@taylororourke2525]

When in Rome!

[@Blaz1ngFury]

Hoes will be hoes

[@BlottaMcTablets]

@@Blaz1ngFury so share 'em with the bros

[@smoke4824]

😅🤣

[@milesorme9447]

Brilliant

[@johns5263]

4:22. That 3 knuckle deep technique

[@raullozano4492]

The amount of knowledge Joe retains is insane

[@TheKimchipower79]

There’s a balance between enjoying wine, beer, whiskey, etc. and then there is ‘abuse’. As one who drank and got drunk every weekend for about 15 years of my life, I can confidently say that alcohol is for most people an escape. We make comments like “had a long week” or “it’s fun”. That’s all denial and BS. Why does one need to take the buzz to the next level? Because it numbs the pain of whatever one doesn’t want to deal with. “Liquid courage” is a medium to build one’s confidence, but it’s fake and superficial. Nothing good comes out of drinking to get drunk.

[@engraciawines]

Wine that is distilled is called Brandy, and if made in the region of France called Cognac - this is a place specific brandy. A "generic term for clear spirit made from fruit (any fruit) is called Eau de Vie (water of life) The base of the distillate determines the type of spirit. Whiskey is basically distilled beer, Slivovitz = plums, grappa = grape pomace- skins, stems, and seeds, Rum = sugar cane / molasses, tequila = fermented agave. The first step to making a spirit is to ferment fruit, grain, plant, etc. The way this works is yeast consumes sugar, and the bi products are CO2 & Alcohol. The CO2 blows off into the atmosphere unless trapped in a bottle like in the case of Champagne. The analogy I like to use is: the yeast eat sugar, and they Poop CO2 and piss alcohol (the bi products of their food consumption). The more sugar you start with the more food for the yeast the more alcohol (and CO2) is produced. As your guest said there is a limit. Depending on the yeast strain and their alcohol tolerance level (which there are some strains that have up up to 21-22% ABV) determines how much sugar they can ferment (along with other factors I'm not going to get I now like nitrogen levels.) and therefore how much alcohol is produced. Once that base "wine" is made with let's say ,,16% ABV, that liquid (wine, mash,etc.) Is then distilled. Alcohol (and specifically ethanol in this case) has a lower vapor point than water, so when that liquid is put into a still, we heat up the mash, vaporize the ethanol, we always get some water too (which is why it is very hard to get 200 proof or 100% ABV alcohol. So the ethanol vaporizes along with some water, that vapor passes through a condenser (typically a copper coil that is chilled with cold water) and as the vapor passes through the condenser and cooling back down it goes back to liquid state from gas state. If you remember back in school when you learned that the sun heats the earth, producing water vapor, heat rises, and the vapor goes up into the atmosphere as the vapor drops combine with eachother they make clouds and when the clouds get over saturated they become to heavy to hold all that water and it falls back to the ground on the form of rain. This concept is basically the same as distillation. Heat turns liquid into vapor, vapor condenses and turns back into liquid.

[@Imtussel]

Awesome comment !

[@OffGridInvestor]

That sounds all right in my experience. When he said wine was 8%-10% I knew he was clueless because I knew that wild yeast was like 12.7% maybe 13% and lab yeast was FAR better. He then sat there saying "Australian shiraz" can be high... YEAH SURE. It's the LAB yeast that makes it high. I have worked in vineyards in Australia for a few years and my father spent like over 20 years in them. Our shiraz is the same plant as shiraz elsewhere.

[@finished6267]

To me the entire process was simple to visualize, from low wine through distillation, through, tempering, through aging. My friend who helped design and ran a winery just couldn't grasp the concept of fractional distillation. It's a hard science, I don't understand how people can't understand that different compounds vaporize at different temps. Making grappa with the guy was a nightmare. He was endlessly certain there were foreshots in the product.

[@finished6267]

@@OffGridInvestor that was his point.

[@jameslyon1372]

Shine on!

[@davidross8233]

I read extensively about alcohol three years ago. What a bummer. It’s absolute poison. I stopped and have never looked back.

[@thomasgill223]

Except. if you don't overdo it, it is actually great for you. Just like the sun!

[@Fishstixgogoodwithpepsi]

@Thomas Gill please cite a scientific study to prove that statement. It sounds like rubbish to me.

[@thomasgill223]

@@Fishstixgogoodwithpepsi Do your own homework. Just Duck Duck Go alcohol and all cause morality,. And if you really want to improve your life, do a deep dive into the literature about sun produced vitamin D, and its essential role in human health. You're welcome.

[@Fishstixgogoodwithpepsi]

@@thomasgill223 may be the dumbest reply I've ever received. Joe rogan definitely deserves your viewership

[@thomasgill223]

@@Fishstixgogoodwithpepsi I understand, doing your own research scares the bejezus out of you. Don't worry my friend, you are in the majority.

[@Drivehead103]

Years ago I watched a fantastic special on alcohol and prohibition. One thing that stunned me the most was to learn that the age of consent was 10 years old! What the hell were they thinking?!

[@akjohnny5997]

certainly didn't have todays culture

[@ashleygresham171]

Well water was contaminated at one point and alcohol was safer because of fermenting. Yeah 10 is wild

[@seancrowe3353]

Historically people married and had children in their early and mid teens, it was normal. A parent in their twenties was 'old'

[@nmnnmnm4637]

I think life expectancy was 30 back then

[@gothxm]

Did you look at the life expectancy back then? It's so different now as we all live longer and understand the damage we can do to a young person by forcing them to marry at that age. One of the best things about this age is our freedom to live and choose.

[@deplorablecovfefe9489]

It's almost certain that alcohol from wine, cider and honey was discovered first. Beer making is highly advanced type of food prep. Had to be some sophisticated kitchens and chefs to figure out beer.

[@TakashiAmanoOriginal]

“Have you heard of Gobekli Tepe?” Joe starts tripping on DMT

[@coreyburt3673]

Underrated-comment

[@Biluxi]

lol!

[@shelly.618]

That’s a far out one I like it

[@redline9579]

Lol

[@bigr3578]

"I think we're professionally obligated to drink" lmao. Best quote of the 21st century.

[@conservativevoice1164]

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[@truhhhhhhhokIII3]

*says all alcoholics*

[@Holmesson]

Dude, Edward has one of the coolest last names ever!

[@timothycormier3494]

I always thought that the reason why we fermented fruits and grains to create alcohol was to cleanse the water and make it drinkable and not poison with parasites and such.

[@17utk]

I like how Joe basically disputes this guy's entire premise with one rant-explosion... "we were fermenting beers way before agriculture... infact hunter gatherers at this one site... called gobekli tepe... have you heard of..." -"BRUH GOBEKLI TEPE WAS MADE BY ANCIENT ADVANCED CIVILIZATIONS THAT MADE ATLANTIS"

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

Stoned Joe is f***ing insufferable. Someone needs to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with Joe about him going off on tangents like that. Jamie needs to have some kind of device he can activate that signals to Joe to get back on topic.

[@aqualust5016]

It's important to recognize that "sculpture in the round" which Joe was referring to has been around since 40k BCE, the first known piece being a zoomorphic cat man carved into likely mammoth tusk or from some large creature's bone. Much of the art made for thousands of years after was based on their lifestyles and what they saw in the world. Art history taught me so much, chiefly that we have not been dumb humans up until before the industrial age. War has almost always existed, slavery has almost always existed, culture, art, and economies have almost always existed. What's really changed is technology and the speed in which information travels.

[@truthbomber7628]

Possibly.

[@fehmeh6292]

No. White people invented slavery in the 1700-1800's. Don't be a supremacist apologist insurrectionist.

[@theKashConnoisseur]

Art history was probably one of the most educational courses I had in university.

[@zzzarkka]

What people have to know is technology doesn’t mean computers, cars, etc. basic tools and the invention of the wheel are technology.

[@ryandrcannabis4082]

​@@zzzarkka computers are most definitely technology. Some of what they do isn't

[@jaredkrause2300]

Im reading Edwards book "Drunk" right now.... great writer, great host.

[@aptorres01]

Great video thank you

[@hagler7]

November 27th 2003 was the last time i took a drink and even to this day a get the urge to take a drink and a trip down memory lane. Its a fleeting thought that evaporates very quickly but in those 1st few years i would be clawing the walls. Each to there own but myself and alcohol just didn't get along, and if i would of continued i certainly wouldn't be sat here watching this podcast. Stay safe everyone and dont let alcohol creep up on you and rule your life. Paz

[@mrshaneobuenosnodgrass3328]

Congrats! It's been almost 3 years since I've had even a drop of alcohol. I know what you mean how it is a progressive disease that slowly starts to take over your entire life and becomes your master. I was a slave to alcohol for many years and did several jail and rehab stints until I finally had to stop and stay stopped. I plan on staying sober the rest of my life but sometimes when life stresses me out enough I still just take it one day at a time and thank God I haven't picked it back up. God bless and keep up the good work.

[@finished6267]

I was the same in my 20s. Stopped for 10 years. I enjoy my wine and beer, even good scotch, but don't have the urge to overdrink. That 10 years was long enough for me to mature out of that behavior. Regardless, you're not really missing anything

[@russellgarnett7694]

Inspiring

[@Dubstep4LIFE2901]

@@finished6267 At the age of 24 years, thinking I may never be able to drink again, your comment was a rather refreshing and optimistic take on what I have deducted to be a mix of personal struggle, self reflection and learned discipline. One day at a time bother, thanks for your share

[@MrDevonMize]

I will drink to that. Hell yeah!

[@michaelblanco2189]

Haven’t realized how little ive listened to this since Spotify. It use to be part of my daily life, the Spotify platform fkn sucks!!!

[@Ravishrex1]

Downloaded spotify once for the Dave Chappell podcast but that's it

[@john-joetwomey6531]

I think their video system isnt as good but mostly for me its the way they advertise episodes and the lack of comments.

[@ericcruz-quintero6778]

Spotify crashes for me a lot

[@nayefbinabdulah]

I can’t even listen to JRE on spotify, it says not available in your country

[@RealAmericanStar]

Spotify is amazing for music

[@tbone5040]

It was nice of Joe to allow this man to introduce Joes lecture topic.

[@robertanderson350]

Soda, Cereal, Mayonnaise Beer, Bleached Bread and Smokes Pork and Beans, Corned Beef Hash All in Pickled Pulp.

[@dennisgjoka10]

Edward: "And they distil it" Joe: "What do they call that?" Edward: "Distilled liquor thats what liquor is" Such a JRE moment XD

[@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk]

Joe was asking about distilled wine and that’s usually Grappa or Brandy but this guy is more of a technician so that probably didn’t register with him.

[@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy]

@@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk Yeah, Joe meant what variety of liquor. I thought that was pretty clear, but the guy didn't pick up on it.

[@fancyhitchpin8675]

@@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk* Beer is from malt.

[@BD-xn2dp]

When Joe drones on and on about Gobekli Tepe I can't help but think about that scene in Airplane where everyone wants to off themselves as Striker is telling his story.

[@mth666]

😂

[@918kickinwing]

Lmao

[@frizzleskillet]

Lmao. Jokes aside though he actually did a pretty good job of explaining it in such a short time. I love that stuff and he explained it way better than I could have.

[@chicoktc]

@@frizzleskillet yes, but, it had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion. It's an old civilization, that's all that matters to his story

[@shanemhallett]

@@chicoktc except the theory of beer before bread is only valid at that site if the people were hunter gatherers. Beer at that site could instead be evidence that supports the theory that they had agriculture. To be fair though joe had no idea it was going there and was just going off. But also, to be fair, this guy obviously doesn’t listen to JRE so he’s hearing this for the first time from Joe unlike us who have heard PLENTY about gobleki tepe.

[@jonvia]

Drinking a beer while hearing about the history of alcohol. Fascinating. Ok Im stoned too. Just dont tell my mom.

[@fernandoluis53]

Get a life

[@tavish4699]

Honnestly the beer before bread makes sense Native americans also cultivated wild Tabbaco to smoke even though they didnt really settle