A Budget Built-In ND Filter For Canon Cameras

[@apertureproductions]

Be aware Yes this is a great alternative to the expensive Canon VND. But do be aware I did purchase this adapter along with a new EOS R6 and Tamron 24-70mm. This adapter does not work on lens with stabilization and the other stabilization lenes that I've tested. It shakes randomly at times or when you hit the shutter button and took me a while to figure out what was causing the issue. I almost returned the camera and then the lens but once I took my setup to a camera store, they used a normal RF to EF adapter and the shaking stopped. I figured this would be the case because the shaking stops when you turn the lens stabilization switch off. At first I panicked and thought it was the camera's IBIS, hence why I almost returned it. Just saving you guys some future frustration with similar setups. I do still use it with non stabilization lenses.

[@AndresArosemena]

Thanks for this message!!! I have that exact same issue with my R6, using that adapter and a Sigma 24-70 and I have been very worried that the lens broke internally at some point. And I was super disappointed with the stabilization. Sadly the price difference with the Canon adapters is HUGE. I bought 2 of the Meike. One for the R6 and one for the R7.

[@Photonees]

​@@AndresArosemena It's a sigma thing, I have a Sigma 15mm fisheye (used with crop mode) that shakes, this is with the official Canon adapter, its not Meike. Got sick of it and bought Canon fisheye. I have another Sigma ART lens, no issues with that one. This is on my R5 btw

[@Photonees]

Its probably Tamron thing that needs a firmware update, read my lower reply with same issue with old sigma lens.

[@AndresArosemena]

@@Photonees oh damn! I was excited to know that maybe if I bought the official canon adapter I would be able to use my sigma 24-70 without those shakes!

[@LiveMyJourneyTom]

It’s a lack of sync stabilisation issue. The ibis reacts to counteract the movement while the lens is already stabilising some of it, which in turn makes the ibis overshoot.

[@tonysantophotography]

I purchased this adapter about a month ago and I think it does a great job! I've even purchased a "softening" filter for effects that I need on current project for work. Love your videos!

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thank you so much!

[@-WhizzBang-]

I just ordered this for my R7, and I love it!

[@TravelWithLinAndBilly]

Am so glad I found your channel. I’ve learnt so much in the last few weeks. Thanks dude!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You are very welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@kernzilla]

Agree, this channel is such a great find. Josh goes hyper-geek on topics that other reviews don’t touch. 👏👏

[@redonebeatbox]

Used the Meike with a R5C and a Sigma 18-35 on a few shoots that went from full blasting sunlight to low-light night scenes, and the autofocus was completely OK in all situations, so I'd definitely say, the filter does not obstruct AF functions in any way. Also, didn't have any color issues in post in PrPro or Davinci, so it is a huge deal

[@Theaaronchris]

This is great to hear. I was worried about how AF would be with this.

[@jameslong1540]

@@Theaaronchris just surprised that no one make a rear filter adapter for the same mount.

[@RubenStuveling]

@@jameslong1540 What do you mean the same mount?

[@jameslong1540]

@@RubenStuveling Canon RF to RF

[@RubenStuveling]

@@jameslong1540 can’t be done because it would mess up the flange distance of the RF lens.

[@nativesugarshack9328]

Got the R5 about a year ago, been shooting a C100m2 for years. Have not bought any RF glass, using all EF so that I can have ND behind the glass as opposed to in front of it 👍

[@LDBecker]

Just ordered the R5 for mostly stills but some 4k video. I have also been shooting with the C100mk2 for several years and absolutely love that camera. I have several Canon EF L lenses and look forward to using them on the R5. My normal lens on the C100mk2 is the Canon EF-S 18-135 with the PZ-E1 power zoom adapter - great general use combo. So, how has the R5 and Meike adapter worked out with the R5?

[@spensersakurai]

I use the Meike with my Komodo and it actually works pretty well. Wouldn’t hesitate to recommend it for the cost.

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thanks for chiming in and letting us know about your experience with the Komodo.

[@cinelensgeeky3648]

This is the best ef to rf adapter with drop-in filters, much more affordable than the Canon original one

[@Davesavenue]

Awesome, just watched this filter adapter online yesterday and wondered if it was worthy, ANSWERED

[@Josh_Sattin]

Nice! Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching!

[@ruff1draft]

Excellent this is. I love the practically of camera's such as the Canon R7, Sony A74, Panasonic S5 Mark ii, Panasonic S5 Mark ii X, Nikon Z5, Sony A74 and Fuji SX-20 and Fuji XT4.

[@Jason_Hermann]

Excellent review Josh! Looks like a fantastic option for when mounting EF glass which is really important these days since Canon will be lacking RF lenses for another year or two... Keep it up Bro 👊

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thanks Jay! I agree, Canon needs more RF lenses, especially RF-S lenses!

[@benji4037]

@@Josh_Sattin can I use the adapter for rf lenses as well. I’m just looking for a way to use the nd filter with the lenses I already have. The 50mm and the 16mm

[@BrandonTalbot]

They now have promist drop in filters too!

[@Josh_Sattin]

Nice! And CPLs too!

[@paulomateus3083]

Hi Josh, thanks for another great review! One question, which is not so much related with the Meike adaptor, but your autofocus test looks quite disappointing with the EF 16_35 f2.8 III. I was expecting a better performance since that is the latest version for that EF lens. Do you have similar results with other EF lenses? And much better is it the autofocus with RF lenses?

[@agenericaccount3935]

Oh man. I'd love something like this to bring some EF glass to my FX. Built in NDs would be magnificent.

[@projectved]

Amazing video as always! This might sound a little strange, but is there anything like this for RF lenses (i.e. drop in ND filter without the adapter)? I love the idea of a drop-in ND without having to worry about thread sizes, step up rings, finger prints etc. New to shooting video, and would appreciate any suggestions.

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thanks! Unfortunately there isn't a drop-in filter adapter for RF lenses because the RF lenses need to mount directly onto the camera. The reason the EF-RF adapter works is because EF lenses have a longer flange distance.

[@mirobalic3613]

Greetings! nice presentation, congratulations. would you please give me your opinion on whether I should buy the original Canon or Mekie

[@benjamin.kelley]

I just bought another Moment VND, this time a 6-9 stop because I can't shoot wide open with CLog3 on my R6 because I just don't have enough stops of ND. Might have to return and get this.

[@Skrenja]

I actually prefer the color shift of the Meike!

[@davidminkin8861]

Thanks for the tip, I just got it and I love it!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Enjoy!

[@GTheoMedia]

Can you swap filters with 2inch astrophoto filters ? Amazing review.

[@onocoffee]

I recently bought the EFTE adapter to mate EF lenses to E-mount cameras for my FX30. The E-mount version has a switch on the adapter for either CDAF or PDAF modes. Unfortunately, it is completely unusable in PDAF mode but the camera will be able to communicate with the lenses in CDAF mode (disappointing). In order to figure this out, I took the setup to my local camera shop where we put a bunch of different EF lenses on the mount and had the same very disappointing results. None of the six lenses we tried (of different manufacturers and ages) worked in PDAF mode.

[@BlackLightNL]

Hmm, I have used the canon ef-rf mount without a drop in filter plugged inside. I just use a cap I place on top of the opening. I haven't had problems with this setup. I am getting a bit skeptical for buying the clear filter... ?

[@rayspencer5025]

One advantage of using EF lenses with R cameras is I have a few lenses (like 6.5mm, 15mm T/S, and 8-16mm) which I have never been able to use a filter with due to their bulbous front element, but now I can.

[@Josh_Sattin]

Great point!

[@fitzgeraldfilmsMN]

This is how I feel

[@victordelprado]

Excellent! I wonder if it would not affect the auto focus on the r7 for videos mode?

[@Udayan12345]

A quick question : What is the size of the filter (diameter) that sets in the drop in filter , will I be able to use 2 inch filters with the drop in filter module ?

[@joshvoigt7505]

Great video! I've been using this adapter for a few months now and absolutely love it. My only concern is that some of the lenses feel like they're shaking a little bit - almost like they're not fully connected. Very excited to try it on the r7 with the 18-35

[@Rahilu]

Any thoughts on this specific setup - R7, Sigma 18-35, and this adapter? Looking to use this with the exact same setup myself so would love to hear what your experience has been :)

[@joshvoigt7505]

@@Rahilu I cannot possibly recommend it enough. This setup has been my social media content and weddings setup for over a year now, and I genuinely prefer it to the C70 in many ways. Might even be picking up a few more at the end of this year.

[@Rahilu]

@@joshvoigt7505 Thank you for the reply - and that’s brilliant! Just picked one up, expecting to ship out to me late September :)

[@AndresArosemena]

I have the same issue with this adapter and the Sigma 24-70. It made me think the camera IBIS or the lens OS was broken

[@CaravanMovies]

Is it also available for sony APsc cameras ?

[@JosephMcBrayer]

Great review here. Thank you.

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@JosephMcBrayer]

@@Josh_Sattin picked one up and going to give it a try hybrid shooting on a trip in a few weeks. The 1.5ish to 9 stops is quite impressive with no X and no (apparent) image quality loss. It should be low strength enough at 1.5 for me to shoot photos and switch back to video easily instead of threading the pmvnd 2-5 from the front element. Thank you.

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Enjoy!

[@lucariccidj]

nice! Is there a magnetic solution for the NISI ND circular filters?

[@PavlentijIvani4]

Cool filter! Ehm, I mean adapter! Thanks for review

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. thanks for watching!

[@Jadesfishing]

Hey Josh Great video! I have a question. Will this filter be enough nd to shoot in clog 3 at iso 800 f2.0 on a sunny day? Just wondering if this will give me enough darkness to shoot in. Thanks man!

[@michaelranger9104]

you can get a clip in blanking cover if no filter is put in to the slot on Amazon for around $5 for 2

[@greenlightstudios3469]

I’ve always used vnd, but recently I purchased some Tiffen ultra contrast and glimmer glass. I think I get more DR now in the blacks, Any thoughts Josh

[@34Media]

the only issue and same with all on offer can only use EF lenses , and my only EF lens is the 16-35 L which i use for astro and low light so need a light pollution filter which i don't think they or canon make. Breakthrough filters have all the filters but the adaptor is still not for sale for over a year not sure what has happened to them. i have got the clip in filters from case which give same solution just unfortunately no variable and no polarizer. So I'm still hoping breakthrough come through but i may just have saved up enough for RF glass by then so wont be able to use lol

[@madedigital]

So can you use a mft to canon speed booster then add on

[@rnic74]

Great vdo , thank you!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@TiberiousGreene]

Now I just need this to complete my Sony FX3!!! And DAMN I CANT FIND IT.. meike needs one for Sony Emount too

[@tjena]

great information! Any opinions on the ef-e mount version for the fx3?

[@Josh_Sattin]

Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test out that adapter.

[@meditsproductions111]

Do you notice trouble while using an rf - ef adapter with autofocus and that kind of stuff?

[@MrThedancestar]

If you put the camera into the Smallrig Black Mamba cage designed for the R7, can you still change the filters? Because it seems like the left side of the cage is sticking out too much

[@matt.banton]

This is awesome! Does the ibis still work properly with this adaptor?

[@Josh_Sattin]

It did with this combination, but I have heard people say that it doesn't work with every lens so I can't say for sure.

[@matt.banton]

@@Josh_Sattin Thanks Josh, good to know!

[@nyomansabun1136]

Top vid bud......Thank you.

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@potbtech]

Thanks for the wonderful content! I got the 18-35 with the R7. Do you think I'll need a variable ND to use it at 1.8 in C-Log 3?

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Yes you will need an ND filter for a lot of situations when filming at F1.8.

[@potbtech]

@@Josh_Sattin Thanks! I plan to get the Canon adapter with variable ND. Do you think that's a good choice?

[@BleepingWorld]

Are all the drop in filters cross compatible? Like are they all using the Canon drop in size or do you need to get company specific drop ins?

[@Josh_Sattin]

A lot of them seem to work although some of the manufacturers say they don't work so your mileage may vary. I compared some of the VNDs in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKmuiZyqbq5je7c

[@jimmystewartuk]

The only problem I have with this ND adapter is that it would only work with EF lenses… For this reason getting a ND filter for cameras without a build-in ND, I would still opt in for getting front NDs.

[@JayFingers]

💯

[@ChasWG]

I wish I had seen this video before I spent a good amount of money on the basic Canon EF to RF adaptor plus the variable ND filters and step up/down rings. I could have saved some money and just bought the Meike adapter. Hindsight...

[@blayneofficial]

Fit the r50?

[@JebrilKessler]

Make a review on the viltrox rf to ef speedbooster

[@Josh_Sattin]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYS9aqaZrtBrr6s kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3WWZGlrjLN4erc

[@Photonees]

What I find stupid, is that they added glass in the clear filter, just give it with an open hole... On the other hand, it protects the sensor when you dont turn it off when changing lenses. Still... an extra layer of glass that can catch dust and finger prints if you change the filter, might mess up shots. Have the adapter recently btw

[@linkinjunior]

Since Aug of 2022, any update to mention regarding this adapter? I currently have the standard one, but thinking of this to help with my c-log3 footage. Thank you for your help!

[@Jadesfishing]

Does this work well in sunlight at iso 800 in clog 3 when you use it?

[@profenx2409]

Hi I love your videos I use canon m6 ii and they have the same adapter EF to EF M but is it good as this one ? or it's the same VND filter from meike ?

[@Josh_Sattin]

I have only tried the one I show in this video.

[@przybylskipawel]

Am I seeing things or did the filtered footage has reduced details in shadows? Also I can see LESS flares and loss of contrast with the filter. How is that even possible?

[@skepsys]

this makes r7 a more interesting offer. anyone has experience how the af in video and tracking in video would work with ef instead of rf lenses? like, how much would that draw the af prformance back

[@ruff1draft]

Turns the Canon R7 into a a 4k Canon c100

[@charliebingaman571]

The autofocus is excellent, the best autofocus an ef lens will have is on an rf camera

[@TreasureCoastMultimedia]

Finally got my R7 and Meike vnd, mostly because of your review, so thanks. Question - using CLOG3, f1.8 sigma lens (another recommendation from you). Using fastest exposure 1.8 and ISO800 indoors. Way too hot, so what do u recommend I adjust? I know u say to keep ISO at 800 for clog3, and I need 1.8 for shallow dof. Should I use the VND, even though indoors? It's a florescent lite room I can't really adjust or turn off/lower.

[@Josh_Sattin]

I almost always have the ISO at the base (800 in Clog3). Shutter speed at double the frame rate and then chose aperture based on preferred depth of field. Change the exposure using NDs or lighting. If your lens is wide open and it is super bright then you might need a heavier ND filter or stop the lens down a bit. Check out this video about exposing Clog3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHSnkq1netycqMk

[@TreasureCoastMultimedia]

@@Josh_Sattin Thanks, yeah, I'm gonna go the ND route. With that nice Meike adapter, not too much of a hassle. I just wasn't sure what lowering the ISO to 400 or so would do to the image quality in CLOG3.

[@Josh_Sattin]

Lowering the ISO to 400 to darken a brighter exposure will actually shift more information to the shadows. Which I know is actually counterintuitive. Better to stop down the lens. For more info on that, check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4jdon97a5mHsKs

[@rvairocker]

Hii.. really wanted to know an important question does Cannon drop in filters works on meike adapter .. ? Thank you in advance

[@Josh_Sattin]

I unfortunately haven't tried that.

[@CaravanMovies]

Does it work in full frame only or we can use this adapter in apsc like R7 ?

[@Josh_Sattin]

It works on full frame. I mention that in this video and the testing was done on the R5.

[@CaravanMovies]

@@Josh_Sattin Ok thank you sir

[@RubenStuveling]

Also works for APS-C.

[@planetguam8475]

@@Josh_Sattin yes you did mention that you were using a Canon R5, but that was not the question. He asked, "Does it work in full frame only or can use this adapter in apsc likeR7?" Your response, " It works on full frame." So does it work on full frame ONLY, or can it work on an APSC too?

[@JuannPaezz]

Is there a sony version of this?

[@Josh_Sattin]

meikeglobal.com/products/mk-efte-c

[@SeanMiller318]

Great review. Maybe this adapter is a sign of things to come for the R mount system, like affordable 3rd party lenses. 👍👍

[@semahj]

I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one

[@ossme]

This adapter + r7 + sigma 18-35 f1.8

[@Josh_Sattin]

Yup: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmXSZKGOp99mlbs

[@KarimElghotmy]

Is it weather resistant ?

[@Josh_Sattin]

Meike claims that it is "dust and weather resistant": meikeglobal.com/products/meike-mk-eftr-c-auto-focus-lens-adapter-ef-ef-s-lens-to-eos-r-camers

[@shridexdigi1982]

Hey Bro, nice work you do. Please can you test the Fujifilm xh2s F-log 2 in 4k against Canon R5C c-log 3 in 4k

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thank you. I do not have a Fuji XH2S or Canon R5C.

[@professionalpotato4764]

X-H2S has more DR than the R5C.

[@NowyKurs]

Can you dial to 0 stops? I often need to take the ND off for photography and if shooting in low light.

[@Josh_Sattin]

No you can't. I discuss this in the video. It goes down to approximately 1.5 stops but you can swap the ND filter out with the provided clear one.

[@jaimealmeida1271]

What about the autofocus with this ND adapter? Or just for manual used

[@Josh_Sattin]

Please watch the whole video.

[@jameslong1540]

as well as EF lens to EF camera bodies?

[@Josh_Sattin]

Please see the explanation to your other question.

[@VividlineImages]

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t this add more vulnerability to the sensor with dust and moisture 🧐

[@SonnyBCreative]

how?

[@VividlineImages]

@@SonnyBCreative doesn’t the slit expose the sensor in between changing nd filters? And idk if it was mentioned if the adapter also includes weather sealing

[@Josh_Sattin]

Meike claims that it is "dust and water resistant": meikeglobal.com/products/meike-mk-eftr-c-auto-focus-lens-adapter-ef-ef-s-lens-to-eos-r-camers

[@eerofi]

I will never use Meike adapters anymore since one of them broke and a 500€ lens fell on the ground and broke. Extremely unreliable quality. More spefically what broke is the inner part where the little screws are connected somehow cracked and came out with the lens. Save money with an adapter, but make sure that there is some kind of backup mechanism holding the kit together when the adapter breaks. Good luck!

[@jameslong1540]

What about a RF lens to RF camera adaptor?

[@Josh_Sattin]

This isn't physically possible. The reason there are adapters like this and speedboosters is because of the flange distance of mirrorless cameras. We need an adapter with distance in it to use EF lenses (made for DSLRs) because mirrorless cameras don't have the mirror box. This allows manufacturers to add other things in the adapter.

[@TertioFilmDesign]

Difficult to choose between this and a speedbooster for R7

[@Josh_Sattin]

If you can afford it, I would get both. Speedbooster for low light and VND Adapter for bright situations. So much flexibility.

[@1031ProductionsLLC]

Bought one... 👍🏼

[@slimhim]

Wish they made one that would work with RF lenses

[@Josh_Sattin]

Me too, but this isn't physically possible. The reason there are adapters like this and speedboosters is because of the flange distance of mirrorless cameras. We need an adapter with distance in it to use EF lenses (made for DSLRs) because mirrorless cameras don't have the mirror box. This allows manufacturers to add other things in the adapter.

[@slimhim]

@@Josh_Sattin Yea, I get the limitations, I still am wishing for it tho 😂 Also, not too long ago it wasn’t “physically possible” to have a mirrorless camera the way we do now. It may take a while but hopefully one day, while I’m still a photographer, it’ll happen 😊

[@ThorstenBergContentCreator]

Is there a RF to RF VRB ND?

[@Josh_Sattin]

There is not. This isn't physically possible. The reason there are adapters like this and speedboosters is because of the flange distance of mirrorless cameras. We need an adapter with distance in it to use EF lenses (made for DSLRs) because mirrorless cameras don't have the mirror box. This allows manufacturers to add other things in the adapter.

[@ThorstenBergContentCreator]

@@Josh_Sattin Ahh I see. so doing the same for s RF RF would change the focal length. fantastic explanation. Thanks. So for RF the front ND is the only solution.

[@Josh_Sattin]

@@ThorstenBergContentCreator You're welcome. It's not just changing the focal length, the camera/lens wouldn't work properly. And yes, NDs in front of RF lenses is the solution. Thanks for watching!

[@mauricioli3901]

Hi Josh, thanks for bringing this review, I think is a good option. My wife and I love your videos. 👍🏻📸🏝🌊☀️🌴🌋☕

[@Josh_Sattin]

You are very welcome. Thanks for watching the videos!

[@madbadger85]

I was under the impression that putting filters in front of you glass, degrades your sharpness.

[@Brett.Hatfield]

love this guy fuak

[@planetguam8475]

Couldn't they just make a slider with no glass? It will still keep out the dust.

[@sharathchandra1023]

variable nd sucks with those polarisation effects and vignette. breakthrough photography have solid nd drop in filters but they are too pricey.

[@madedigital]

Only for canon

[@AviRochester]

It's time for camera manufacturers to include a built-in nd filter. All these solutions do no good.

[@WHITEPERSUAS1ON]

At 10:30 I thought you said "It's extra, fucking $530" and it really made me laugh cus that is ridiculous. But I don't think that's what you said 😭

[@mysty0]

Why cant I buy a built in VND Filter that IS NOT an Adapter.. I want to just shoot my EOS-M Lenses with a built in but its simply not available.. there is an opening in the market for somebody!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You can't get that because of the flange distance. Mirrorless lenses need to be close to the sensor. The only reason we can get ND adapters is that we are using DSLR lenses that need that extra space so they can add a filter in there.

[@Ultrarmx]

I sent the Canon ND back. Poor built quality and after MID it just turns bluish tint. I’ll stay with my lens ND.

[@SonnyBCreative]

can you retype your sentence? i dont understand

[@LarsLeonhard]

I have a RF 24-105mm F/4-7,1 IS STM lens for my Canon EOS RP ... so this doesn't work you say? No RF? What ND filter do you recommend for my setup?

[@Josh_Sattin]

Yes, you can not use a RF lens with this adapter. You can only use EF lenses. Here is a video that I did comparing ND filters: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKK4lJR6g9Fgbck

[@d_FLDE]

To anybody that owns a Komodo or Komodo-x Massive unusable color cast with the original canon vnd when you shut it down. Almost non wide open. Hardly non with the mike. Build of the canon ist superior though. And does not sit as tight. So I have to disagree.

[@d.k.1394]

All they did was copy canons one!!!!!!!