A ChatGPT Conversation Has Major Environmental Costs

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[@onametaquest]

Something I hate about this story is that everyone even in tech has somehow failed to mention the obvious part in that this is a closed loop evaporitive cooling system. Yeah its a lot of water, but far from the only data center that does this and the water is not wasted LOL.

[@tylerswan491]

Agree 100%. Ez to find someone motive when you look at when they say/dont say. Wish youtubers would fix common sense things as info flows in from mainstream media. (Not hating on youtubers haha)

[@Lukeomatic719]

They actually just pour bottles of water on the ground to honor the AI gods.

[@andrewfarrar741]

@@Lukeomatic719 reclaimed water in my jurisdiction and there are lots of 🤖

[@nichagema]

Article is clearly exaggerated and should be considered misinformation

[@mickey121092]

To be fair... how much water does it cost for a person to produce a similar answer as ChatGPT? 🤔

[@andrewfarrar741]

Bro me to know me.

[@dogzer]

I may need a lot of water

[@dallasbuilt8010]

Deep

[@BOSS_1417]

A months worth of water, electricity, food, energy, brain cells

[@J4me5De1t0nniu5]

It’s called heat exchangers …. They move water into the hot spots and back to another heat exchanger . While could be a big heat sink in the ocean … so they don’t even need pump sea water anywhere just there closed loop system.

[@jesper164a]

I don't understand how the water disappears? Aren't they cooled in a closed loop?

[@andrewfarrar741]

The humans are in the closed 🔄 🧠 🔄

[@jesper164a]

@@andrewfarrar741 Huh?

[@xFactoryUSA]

Evaporation, extremely hot machines just burn it off.

[@andrewfarrar741]

@@jesper164a these guys keep reading Ai language stuff because they are terrified of it, but the info they are reading is not verified and it is not accurate....you were assuming the facts were correct...watch their video about teachers using that Ai language bot and you will get what I mean

[@hunterxcraft8328]

Yeah closed loop they don’t get it.

[@foxluck353]

A recirculating water machine that passes through ice every rotation

[@6lack5ushi]

as a poultry farmer every chicken you eat is 15 litres of water to process. Not including what the chicken drinks through tis life. just to let you know

[@andrewfarrar741]

Thank you for sharing ✌

[@fevo28]

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[@redbugbluebug]

1 bottle of 16oz water is 0.125 gallons Here is list of how much water is needed to grow some fruits, vegetables and grains Lettuce --15 gallons(about 150 chats=1 🥬) Tomatoes-22gallons(about 220chats=1🍅) Cabbage -- 24 gallons; Cucumber -- 28 gallons; Potatoes -- 30 gallons; Oranges -- 55 gallons; Apples -- 83 gallons; Bananas -- 102 gallons;

[@NightNurseMike]

25 questions is more than a weeks worth of use for me

[@o1ecypher]

They could use the heat generated by the computers to cool down or heat up homes all around the world

[@jayman94fly]

There apparently are projects in other countries trying to do this. Or thinking about it

[@o1ecypher]

@@jayman94fly Thats good news

[@jayman94fly]

@@o1ecypher Yeah! I just hope it doesn't take forever to come to fruition

[@ToniSkit]

Well there are also alternative like llamda which can run on a raspberrypi

[@michael-h95]

Kinda related but Bitcoin mining uses as much electricity as the country of Belgium does. Compute is expensive, at least training GTP 3 is useful. Mining bitcoin is just loads of computers solving an arbitrary problem to make someone money

[@killermed95]

Water-cooling is close looped, even for huge systems. Who comes up with this stuff?

[@hadryantar]

Just call it Skynet already ... 😂😂😂

[@angelogabriel6862]

That's a lot of heat!

[@rzvr4490]

It doesn’t disappear

[@michael-h95]

Would love to know how much it cost in $ open ai per user query to run

[@NinjaNick636]

Now the tree huggers/ climate activists are gonna protest Chat GPT

[@GrumpDog]

I'm usually environmentally conscious and favor sustainability.. But common! This article's claims are obvious BS. It is NOT the equivalent of poring water on the ground, the water in such cooling systems gets re-used repeatedly. Also, you poor a lot more water than that on the ground, any time you water your actual garden. Water doesn't just vanish, it goes into the groundwater, or it evaporates into the air and falls later as rain. AI is no worse for the environment, than anything else we run on servers, the biggest issue is just sheer energy costs.

[@AGAPAH]

Just connected to our body fluids

[@AGAPAH]

They going to use humans as incubators

[@cjeff99]

Why does it need to be fresh water?

[@MetalHendrix.]

It Drinks Water?🤯

[@15muhd.sazalibinmuhd.julka95]

Change heat into electricity.

[@ianlewin8888]

Imagine if AI finally got sentient and the first thing they do are defending themselves against climate activists.

[@dogzer]

Good thing it comes back as rain, right? I mean is the water ruined? (¬_¬)

[@talktorobi]

How much water does it take for you to be streaming this video over the internet.

[@luckieoleary6459]

No, it’s just a way to gatekeep AI usage

[@HotHeadCringe]

wasn't there some guy talking about this in the chat here just two months ago using wisdom as his consensus, no he was telling everyone it's obviously dangerous to everybody and how immature or incompetent would somebody have to be to doggedly march ai forward out of a project of passion or blind power

[@MishiTariq-t4f]

Carry on

[@iKingRPG]

ChatGPT ≠ GPT 3

[@Sobiya-z6w]

Very nice

[@PixelPhobiac]

It doesn't sound that bad to me?

[@andrewfarrar741]

Someone with KZbin super powers please go find a body language expert and a tone of voice expert to explain how deeply this is impacting this guy. 3:13

[@jesper164a]

It's pretty obvious dude... Ain't no need for a expert unless you're IQ is below 50.

[@Bacchibeatz]

Who cares! Everyone drink one less glass a day. It’s too fun to get rid of

[@Batman-vr6jp]

Ocean

[@floridajames04]

Rename this channel to The ChatGPT Hour. 😂

[@andrewfarrar741]

Kinda makes sense though that the prophet (in the spot for seeing is believing run by the do no evil gang) of all things technologically innovative would feel the 🌊🌊🌊 before most others. 🧠💭

[@ShadowSnowLeopard95]

Jfc everything is about the environment these days. If people are so concerned just go back to living in grass huts and trees. What's that? Oh you can't live without social media or drama. Understandable have a nice day

[@andrewfarrar741]

These words 👆 have any matter? 💁‍♂️

[@antonscraft]

My p.p has environmental costs. Who gives a fk. If people survive for a ither 100 years they'll be sure to figure it out then

[@bardz0sz]

Whatever

[@RobbieTao-fl5fo]

Says the person who probably eats 10x that amount of carbon in animal products. lew you hypocrite.

[@sherbazh]

Carbon shaming individuals has never worked and will never work. It is toxic and doesn’t help solve the actual problem.

[@HappyFPV]

You really believe this obviously fake article! Server centres have a closed loop cooling system, also the 4th largest super computer has been used to train the model, it is not used for conversations. Disappointed that you read this story believing it was real?!?!?