We should create a channel that plays his voice over and over for people like us to fall asleep.
@backcure36212 жыл бұрын
UwU
@thehightide2559 Жыл бұрын
@@atulkumartatayes yyes yes!
@karansoam2 жыл бұрын
Mark changed my whole workout mindset. He focuses on absolute necessary things only by eliminating the unnecessary acts from the lifting world. Simply one of the BEST teachers out there! Thankyou Mark!
@JesseGilbride5 жыл бұрын
After hearing Alan Thrall's situation from a ways back where he played around with grips and widths, I widened my grip a bit (but still thumbless) and the golfer's elbow started to subside. Regarding the tendonitis, I get the feeling that the downward force is transmitted to the elbow causes some shearing and connective tissue stress. I've also heard of "pulling the bar into the back" as some form of stabilizing cue, but that also caused tendonitis for me, too. So my philosophy now is: it is my back that is lifting the bar, not my hands, and my grip is both a sensor for bar position and an anchor for upper back tightness. Anthropometry and all, sometimes you gotta find what's best for you.
@StGeorgedragonhunter5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, just do high bar
@jd08792 жыл бұрын
I agree, I widen my grip and it felt much better. Everyone is different and there isn’t a one size fits all
@fukashima65862 жыл бұрын
@@jd0879 One size fits all is exactly the philosophy of Mark Rippletoe
@BDPNupe Жыл бұрын
Thank you all for your comments. For me, the comments have been just as valuable as the video and in some instances even more so. I am currently using the 20 pull-up routine suggested by Rip to resolve the. It seems to be helping
@jeancrespo4871 Жыл бұрын
Thank you from Ecuador. I have read the books, get the equipment, see the videos, using the app and doing the lifts. I'm 42, male, just an "exerciser" before. Now, SS has changed my life for good. Thanks Coach Rip. A few days ago I did a 195 lb squat and make this mistake, shoulder extension. It was really painful and make me stop to continue. This video helped me a lot to understand what NOT TO DO. God bless you Rip
@Raeksis7 жыл бұрын
I squatted low bar this way for years and had on and off elbow tendonitis unless my grip was wide which then just caused thoracic flexion as rip says. Finally I tried thumbs around the bar with wrist wraps (because wrists are now bent) and now my grip is narrow with no pain, feels great
@billybrothers24925 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same exact position.
@Claireissus5 жыл бұрын
I gotta try that out, my elbows fucked from straight wrist thumbless grip
@StGeorgedragonhunter5 жыл бұрын
Same, but i just switched back to high bar, for me its only about 10kg difference between the two and i feel more confortable with the bar that way
@mathieufredette31572 жыл бұрын
Nobody has the same body type. Just find what's more comfortable for you.
@johnbackos5192 Жыл бұрын
Correct. In another clip he says to not support the bar on the arms.
@primofxdls40655 жыл бұрын
Everytime I come back to this channel I find out how much I dont know. This coach has tons of great advice
@Wandererbane4 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me? Go to Athlean X to learn correct info bud
@garouthetiktokinfluencerhu97313 жыл бұрын
@@Wandererbane like how to breath in on the descent of the squat. Also, his 10x10 80% max with 60 seconds rest squat routine for novices is great. Totally safe!
@dannyboi4723 жыл бұрын
@@Wandererbane I’m not sure if you’re joking?
@cooldude70-133 жыл бұрын
@@Wandererbane hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@karansoam2 жыл бұрын
exactly
@arcticfoxsa4 жыл бұрын
As a total non-expert, my understanding is that elbows down, hands together also helps with activating the latissimus dorsi, which you would need to do to stabilize the thoracic spine, much as you would for a deadlift.
@user-cx5ni7me6l2 жыл бұрын
A narrow grip hurts my right shoulder a lot, I should fix that for sure. For now my grip is a bit wider than it should be due to the pain. Hopefully it will be more flexible in a few months :) Thanks for the video and clear explanation.
@n8tehgr8est Жыл бұрын
When I had this problem, doing dynamic stretches with a stretching bar to warm up helped
@leviconely1710 Жыл бұрын
I have tendinitis on my left elbow. It’s a result of having poor external rotation mobility in my left shoulder. I need to practice physical therapy exercises in order to keep my heavy squats from shocking my tendon. It’s shocking my tendon because there’s extra tension on the elbow since my shoulder doesn’t externally rotate far enough to hold the grip close. I think the only short term solution is to use a wider grip while squatting or to use a safety bar.
@Blaine138293 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video where Rip said elbows should be up? So which one is it
@MaroonGoone6 жыл бұрын
Funny Iv watch a few of his videos on squat and Iv been squatting like this since 2007 and people always say “ you squat funny” and “ how does that not hurt your back” and I just say I don’t know but it feels good. My grip is pretty narrow so that when I retract I created a shelf for the bar to sit on my back( low bar squat)
@patterbt Жыл бұрын
Is there a tip for finding the spot that is "immediately below the spine of the scapula" when you are first learning this method? I can find it when I just press my upper back into the bar w/o trying to put my arms into position by just moving up and down until I find the bones. But once I try to put my hands in position, it becomes much harder to find the "spine of the scapula".
@rohan51232 жыл бұрын
He's too good i wish I had a trainer like him 😅
@a-s7623 Жыл бұрын
Find this advice very usefull at 380 lbs going wild all my life, first time i use this grip feels like uncomfortable, but the weight its more manageable, i think its about training til feel comfortably, but totally true, you focus more on the squat and legs than the balance of all weight.
@dixonbourne7 жыл бұрын
I'm 49, and getting in that position has been the bane of my existence, any suggestions?
@Mateo-et3wl3 жыл бұрын
Leg press
@markwalters82967 жыл бұрын
I love his voice!
@anonymousanonymous78966 жыл бұрын
It's the sound of freedom.
@CursedWheelieBin2 жыл бұрын
Like an angry frog 🐸
@nikitaw1982 Жыл бұрын
So am I pulling on the bar? Pushing it or just holding my hands there?
@bencray2177 жыл бұрын
Hey coach (or whoever wants to chime in on this). In this video you speak out against active shoulder extension for holding the barbell. However in one of your older videos (The Squat - Bar Position with Mark Rippetoe @ 8:20 minutes) and you warn about putting any of the weight on your elbows as it can lead to problems (as mentioned on page 24 and 38 of your book) and advocate the "elbows-up" position. Can you elaborate what made you change your mind? Or am I misunderstanding and this clarification is meant for people who just pull up their elbows without lifting the chest at the same time?
@MP-mz7un6 жыл бұрын
Would be interested too.
@chinarep16 жыл бұрын
I think there's an article about this on the SS website. IIRC he used to really push the elbows up cue but people started exaggerating it like crazy and when your elbows are too far up, it tends to make you round your upper back especially at the bottom of the squat. Now he seems to not push the elbows up cue so much to avoid confusing people. Also, in the past when he talked about keeping your elbows up, it was in the context of not placing the bar in your hands with your wrists hyperextended and bearing the weight of the bar. By keeping your elbows up a little higher, it makes it harder for you to place the weight of the bar on your wrists.
@signs806 жыл бұрын
Yeah I used to do elbows up but I was getting a huge amount of thoracic flexion in my squat and once I did it like this with elbows down and very tight, it stopped
@yelnatsnart7 жыл бұрын
i always just preferred to grip really close, I put my index fingers on the line between where the knuling ends and the smooth put in the middle on the bar.
@LSPR932 ай бұрын
I am having a problem that after the first rep I flex my left wrist and it remains wrong for the rest of the set. And the bar starts to slides a bit leaving it unbalanced by the end of the set. The squat is the only exercise I still fear, I am getting the hang of the power clean and will certainly get it right before a halfway decent squat.
@kopilit3 жыл бұрын
I've been trying for three weeks and cannot get a neutral grip. the wrists turn back - getting them neutral pushes the bar back up my neck. it's unbearable even with just the bar. I think I may have frozen shoulders.
@jeffriggins91063 жыл бұрын
Widen grip.
@CursedWheelieBin2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffriggins9106 I’m in the same boat as this guy and I can’t widen my grip any further without crushing my hands on the J hooks when I rack the bar. I’ve tried stretching the pecs, front delts and biceps. I’ve tried working the lats prior to get them in a shortened position. I’ve tried external rotation of the shoulders, scapular mobility drills, shoulder dislocates using bands. Nothing works. The only way the bar will rest on my back is if I extend the wrists to maximum and extend my shoulders up behind my back, which will inevitably result in shoulder pain like it did way back in 2016
@jeffriggins91062 жыл бұрын
@@CursedWheelieBin thumbs around the bar and wrists in slight extension isn't absolutely horrible. If you're a decent sized guy already, you'll find it far more comfortable. Could be a bar placement issue as well
@jesseclark4577 Жыл бұрын
squatting puts a bruise on my neck bone. does that mean the bar is to high on my back
@BryonLape4 жыл бұрын
Seems like the bar is superior to the spine of the scapula here.
@dp15697 жыл бұрын
I prefer a thumbs in grip. Feels more locked in and I have better thoracic extension.
@mboss77334 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know a good fix for when your elbows keep wanting to shoot back and bend your wrists?
@limitisillusion72 жыл бұрын
High bar squat instead
@CursedWheelieBin2 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried and tried and tried but can’t prevent it. If I widen my grip anymore then I’m gonna crush my fingers on the J-hooks when I rack the bar or on the safeties
@foleydvm7 жыл бұрын
I literally just watched a 20 min video where rip said EXACTLY the opposite
@ClearSmoke1007 жыл бұрын
foleydvm lol his old advice is correct this way is fucked do this for 1 heavy squat day and watch your elbows get fucked
@foleydvm7 жыл бұрын
they already fucked but i did realize todasy that for whatewver reason i was not thumbless so adjusted tht lets see but i agree this makes zero sense and how could wrists stay straight vertical like this
@canererbay88427 жыл бұрын
Exactly the opposite of what, though? That you should grip as wide as you can manage?
@anselmoufc7 жыл бұрын
Caner ERBAY In the old longer video he says the elbows must be up, not down.
@joecropper33166 жыл бұрын
I was about to say exactly the same thing I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s confused
@Ravi-ut7kk Жыл бұрын
this clarification might seem minor but makes a huge difference especially if you have wrist pain when unracking
@EM88444 ай бұрын
man I want the full video
@JLeeAgency7 жыл бұрын
Could this result in some elbow/wrist tenderness in some cases? Attempting to teach a friend this exact position but they cite these aches, not during, after the 3 sets.
@chinarep16 жыл бұрын
Wrist pain is usually from having bent or hyperextended wrists which is usually from using too narrow of a grip. Wrists need to be straight/neutral. The elbow pain sometimes shows up if the elbows are kept too low. If increasing the height of the elbows is painful, try using a thumbs around the bar grip. Just make sure their back stays in extension and that they don't support the weight of the bar in their hands if they do this.
@AjaychinuShah3 жыл бұрын
Totally, I have usually perceived of the standard barbell as an Eastern Bo or an Koreanese katana: perhaps even an Excalibur era swinging weapon.
@blablablabla1111111 Жыл бұрын
Is this low bar? I thought it had to rest over the rear delts? Can someone confirm?
@00Noontide7 жыл бұрын
such a good seminar!!
@mattjoe1827 жыл бұрын
Needed this!
@kenkenluran7 жыл бұрын
How can I improve my shoulders mobility so I can get into this position?
@chinarep16 жыл бұрын
Could do shoulder breakers as a warmup. In general just practicing the squat fixes it enough to where you can comfortably squat, though.
@aabahdjfisosososos2 жыл бұрын
OHPs
@issacbreward7 жыл бұрын
So in essence, ensure my wrists and hands are 'flush' with one another? Just for clarification, good video.
@brookeh31307 жыл бұрын
Basically, your wrists shouldn't be bent (with thumbs are on top of the bar), so more hands flush with your forearms. Otherwise, the wrists and elbows will be loaded/stressed by the weight.
@denvergriffin55556 жыл бұрын
Lay the back of your hand and the attached forearm flat on a table. Look at your hand, wrist, and forearm. That's what he teaches they should look like. No bend in the wrist.
@n8tehgr8est Жыл бұрын
It's a bit confusing because I've been using moving my elbows up as a way to tighten the bar to my back. I'll have to try not doing that next time
@inderpreetsingh4471 Жыл бұрын
With a closer grip, I feel the weight in my elbows causing pain
@martinodriscoll86556 жыл бұрын
I cannot get my wrists straight while doing the low bar squat, please advise.
@CursedWheelieBin2 жыл бұрын
Squeeze your lats and depress your shoulder blades as much as humanly possible. It’ll be uncomfortable but, in theory, your shoulders should get used to it. Warm-up by stretching your pecs, biceps, front delts, and maybe even do one-armed Lat pulldowns, making sure to squeeeeeeeze the lat at the bottom. Don’t use heavy weight. Focus on getting your shoulder blade in your back pocket. If that doesn’t improve anything then fuc* it and do high bar
@nonyabinnis9111 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jimmy20555 жыл бұрын
My left elbow gets really irritated when I get into squat grip. I feel like it might not ever get better. I’ve improved thoracic mobility....idk what else to do. I’ll work on external rotation once my elbow calms down. The bar might be too low on my back
@joshold58403 жыл бұрын
Yeah I always had elbow tendonitis following this 'clarification' Found the earlier conflicting information where he says the opposite, to be pain free. I don't suffer the thoracic flexion he mentions here as well with 'elbows up' - but I guess some people over exaggerated the elbows up and had problems.
@Mateo-et3wl5 жыл бұрын
after studying the book for years, watching the videos, checking the forums, and attending a SS seminar where i got even more conflicting advice, i've determined that there is no universal (correct) grip. i've gotten severe tendinitis and now have shoulder injuries that i'm 5 months into rehabbing from following some of his shitty advice. i'm generally a huge fan of SS but this is one of its true weak spots
@JesseGilbride5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Differences in mobility, upper back and shoulder strength, and bone anthropometry mean there isn't a one-size-fits-all dictum/edict.
@Larrybird19804 жыл бұрын
Jesse Gilbride agreed
@BRUTUSz Жыл бұрын
Hi there. My PR is 300 KG and never managed to get a perfect neutral wrist. Spent awful amount off hours on mobility, stretching lats,shoulders,pecs to archive closer position and neutral wrist. Never worked. I had to widen the grip and my wrist will always be slightly bend. Wrapping my wrist with long and super tight makes it work. Look at all the big top lifters regardless you know hehe. But all off them dont have that " universal perfect position " They have wider grip and their wrist is not perfect straight either. Most videos we see people with " perfect form " have light weight on the bar. Videos when people have a lot off load, the form is not that perfect. Bottom line. I agree with you sir :)
@TOMMYSURIA7 жыл бұрын
All I know is my left shoulder is on fire if I try to raise it up while doing the squat.
@sophiafelker35127 жыл бұрын
After doing such a narrow grip I got strong pain in the left shoulder blade. Does anyone else has the same experience?
@linkbill897 жыл бұрын
sophia, at some point, you have to find a grip that will be most comfortable for you... everyone is different..and no, you should not feel strong pain in your shoulder blade.
@thetruth52327 жыл бұрын
Basically, you want to find a grip, that doesn't put strain on your shoulder or elbows or wrists. Grip as wide as you need to, but not so wide that you lose tightness in your traps and upper back. Then concentrate on resting the weight on your back, not your wrists. a good way to find a good grip with, is to start very wide with your lowest warmup weight and get more narrow each set, until you feel tight but not uncomfortable.
@sophiafelker35127 жыл бұрын
Thank you for quick response. My problem was that I felt pain after some time. I am not sure that it came from squats but just in case I changed the grip. Normally, I am quite flexible and didn't have any pain during the exercise.
@matcoddy60977 жыл бұрын
+sophia Felker I'd suggest an even more thorough warm up ( light curls, lateral raises, lat stretches and shoulder dislocates) also it's possible that the load is being overly supported by your arms, I'd suggest pulling the bar even harder around your back, as in get tighter , so the arms don't bear as much load. I get in position/tight, by pretending I'm doing a wide grip chin up. and hold that position during the entirety of the squat
@firebrickwplesu47897 жыл бұрын
It could be from the barbell rolling onto your shoulder blade while you unrack the bar. Please try to move your hand a little wider.
@narcssius3 жыл бұрын
whos name is scion
@gerarddelprete41046 жыл бұрын
I love Rip. But must he dress like my old High School janitor?
@BlGGESTBROTHER3 жыл бұрын
My HS janitor was also my football weightlifting coach; and he dressed exactly like Rip lol
@JackgarPrime3 жыл бұрын
Rip has big school janitor vibes in general
@top3anythingrandomstuff987 жыл бұрын
My right elbow still hurts like a motherfker even with the right grip and everything what the fuck rip?
@mattjoe1827 жыл бұрын
Top3 Anything & random stuff try thumbs around like Alan Thrall, Austin baraki etc
@dors.sc17 жыл бұрын
i see so many people with the bar resting on their necks and their faces pointing at the ceiling, i dont know why it so hard to make people get the bar position right
@matcoddy60977 жыл бұрын
because theirs different theories on a complex movement, with different goals etc, I myself do squat with my head neutral, with the bar on the rear delts (low bar) , but that's due to my anthropometry/ goals and preferences. When I use the high bar squat as a variation, sometimes I'll use excessive positions in order to load myself in weaker positions, purposely , something like a thoracic rounded high bar squat can help strengthen erectors so when you get out of position (rounding over) during your low bar squat , you have the strength and skill to get back into position. also some people just perform better using certain cues, although maybe not an optimal position technically, the overall benefit from using the cue (head up), may influence the rest of the movement/muscular system in such a way that is far more beneficial, than if they used the "correct" position.
@dors.sc17 жыл бұрын
Mat Coddy i refer more to people who just learn to do squats, as a trainer i see a lot of tendency to do that and most of the times it really hurts their squats
@dessertstorm74767 жыл бұрын
there's absolutely nothing wrong with high bar squatting. It's just not ideal for powerlifting.
@jerseyjim90923 жыл бұрын
"Youll get used to it cause you'll stretch out"
@jubilantyogurt3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this with an older guy with zero flexibility. It's a good video none the less!
@jerseyjim90923 жыл бұрын
Rip would have to dislocate my shoulders to get them in the correct position 😆😆😆
@dessertstorm74767 жыл бұрын
People have been redlighted in IPF and USAPL for thumbless grip during squats.
@poolkrooni5 жыл бұрын
What? Examples please. Pretty sure that has not been the reason of a red light.
@jamisona.5639 Жыл бұрын
Wider grip works for me
@matheusgarcia27663 жыл бұрын
3:04 I'm disturbed
@pigpen84437 жыл бұрын
Rip would greatly benefit from watching Coach Jason Blaha's videos. Blaha is very concise and specific in his training advice: there exists no ambiguity in any of his coaching videos. Rip borrowed heavily Coach Blaha's 5x5 routine, so maybe Rip could learn from Blaha's gift to elucidate complicated instructions and exercise mechanics.
@InquisitiveHombre7 жыл бұрын
Lol
@SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite6 жыл бұрын
Lol no bites
@hornandezsmith48456 жыл бұрын
Lol this was a good bait too, im surprised no one got involved
@hellotherekenobi21566 жыл бұрын
@@hornandezsmith4845 Must a genuinely smart comment section for once lmao
@nickmanning4prez6 жыл бұрын
Bar looked high, no?
@tylerb3254 жыл бұрын
what I thought
@CursedWheelieBin2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s impossible to tell with this guy. Aren’t there any diagrams
@TheShapingSickness7 жыл бұрын
That old lady is hot!
@GSteinbrink7 жыл бұрын
I know. I can't tell if she's 25, or 55
@matcoddy60977 жыл бұрын
+Al Simmons Hear you are al, wheres Mike?? surprised he didn't make it hear, figure he'd be in texas by now, after all it'd be REALLY weird and rude if hes still in sacramento or something ;)
@thesurgeon65807 жыл бұрын
She's closer to 70
@temofasa74777 жыл бұрын
That's more of a mid bar position, not low bar. Look how high it is
@benaguilar17877 жыл бұрын
Any lower and it is impossible to keep the bar stable without heavy loading on your arms and elbows. Lower might work when you're squatting 135, but it'll fuck you up at higher weights.
@TiberiusStorm7 жыл бұрын
How romantic! 2:38
@closegripbenchpress4895 жыл бұрын
wheres the fucking stretch
@stevitos4 жыл бұрын
Jesus i wish rip would just make up his mind
@Not2Be0utDone7 жыл бұрын
If a SS video doesn't mention HEHP DRAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHVE, is it even a SS video?
@gabrielg77937 жыл бұрын
Damn for a minute there I thought Mark was going to pull the guys shorts down and start Fucking him silly lol.
@mcslendypants24417 жыл бұрын
LOL XD
@jmac69733 жыл бұрын
Oh crap, someone tell Larry wheels he’s doing it wrong 😑
@davidkrumme13026 жыл бұрын
another rippletoe viedo says they opposite. need a trainer with consistency lol
@zydrunassavickas16 жыл бұрын
show us the blonde squating
@Wandererbane4 жыл бұрын
2:42. Literally no one in the history of squatting has ever done that. Is he seriously making an arguement based on a lie to make himself sound more intelligent? Lmao
@dummybugstudios64504 жыл бұрын
Lol I've literally wanted to do that
@kdh4414 жыл бұрын
complete bs lol
@JMacho-zk5dt Жыл бұрын
👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@GladImnotU692 жыл бұрын
Does the tension between the elbow and hand cause tennis elbow?
@CursedWheelieBin2 жыл бұрын
Golfers elbow (inside of elbow) The downward force of the bar causes shearing to the elbows for what appears to be a lot of people. Yes, the bar should rest on your back, not your hands. However, when you have to brutally contort your body to keep your wrists straight then it’s impossible for the weight to be distributed across your back because your hands are in the way