A Deluded Cyclist | Confronts A Driving Instructor

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[@Rosieeeeeee]

utterly embarrassing behaviour from the cyclist, I can't believe he even sent this in. he created a problem out of nothing.

[@marklittler784]

Probably had a bump on the head.

[@jarthurs]

As a cyclist and a motorist, some people seem determined to get good use out of their cameras. Entitlement + Camera ≠ Right. It does however please me that these people will happily incriminate themselves in order to show how 'right' they were.

[@pifko87]

If this was the worst altercation that the cammer has encountered recently then he should be very thankful. I run a camera on my bike (and car) and could probably submit a video to the police every other ride.

[@ianl1052]

@@jarthurs That's why I'm even more cautious. Depending on the situation, my dashcam can be my best friend or my worst enemy.

[@Itsa-sh]

@@pifko87 you're better off reporting to DVLA directly than the police. After all, the police only forward it to them anyway and the DVLA are more likely to take action. It's very hard to get dangerous or careless driving a criminal conviction against a driver, it almost always ends up penalty points which the DVLA issue. In some cases the DVLA will revoke a drivers license which is something courts are more lenient on anyway

[@KydzPlays]

“pulled out in front of me” already started the manoeuvre 200+ yards ahead. The pettiness of this cyclist is absolutely shocking.

[@Poodz_]

I guess the cyclist expected him to just sit there parked across the middle of the road while he rode past.

[@markyelwell995]

@@astarothme Just like most british socialist that want no 1 driving cars and no 1 owning houses =P im probably reaching lol

[@brentywenty]

​@@markyelwell995that seems like a huge generalisation, but idk

[@Frenchwine15]

Your analysis is absolutely spot on Ashley and I ride a bike as well as drive.

[@christopher9727]

... Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@Taphosthewarlock]

The "I'm going to the police" absolutely reeks of "i'm telling my mum".

[@jasonevans1679]

Tbh I love the fact he's smugly sent it in. And now he's being torn to shreds. Jog on reverend nigel, I'm sure he was looking for targets and a driving instructor was perfect for his ego. nigel we're all laughing at you. I wonder if he'd have done that to a car full of lads...

[@JohnCasserly]

Reverend Nigel wasn't being very reverential was he?🤭

[@oldbloke5277]

Certainly no Reverend... can't even spell it. 🙂

[@christopher9727]

.... Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@davidthompson3434]

Cyclist looking for confrontation is my take on that. It was fairly obvious the car driver was doing a 3 point turn in a quiet leafy street and the cyclist was at least 100 yards away when he started that manoeuvre. Little bit of patience is all that was required.

[@margaretnicol3423]

Ooooh! You said the 'p' word!!! 😨

[@mattlawton4715]

Absolutely and if you look the cyclist starts to accelerate towards the car. The cyclist is a very bad road user.

[@johnrichardson544]

You'd think "the reverand" would have had more patience? Isn't that their job?

[@Demun1649]

@@johnrichardson544 YOU ought to use a dictionary, if you have one? There is NO such word as "reverand". There are so many ENGLISH people who can't even use their first language correctly......

[@ianl1052]

@@Demun1649 You ought to pay more attention to what you're reading. The cyclist who sent in the video clip signed off as *The reverand* Autocorrect would have automatically tried to "correct" it to reverend. John would have deliberately ignored the suggestion. John 1: you 0

[@markfaulkner9626]

As a cyclist myself, the cyclist who recorded this video is part of the problem which creates a divide between motorists and cyclists. I’m embarrassed for him. Anticipation is key when on the road.

[@JdeBP]

I hope that the counter to the problem is that almost everybody realizes that this person is not representative of cyclists, any more than that M. Neal's favourite German Car Drivers are representative of motorists, and that this person is the very thing that xe calls someone else. Something that is as obviously utterly wrongheaded as this should not be divisive. Indeed, it should be unifying. (-:

[@Buzzard1968]

No he isn't..... the driver should have allowed him to cycle past before completing his manouvre... would the instructor have made the manouvre if it had been a person driving a car, or would he have waited? The cyclist didn't need to confront the driver in the way he did but the cyclist is not part of any problem. The vast majority of problems on our roads are caused by motor vehicle drivers killing, maiming, breaking the laws, and damaging people, cars and property.

[@edwardhuggins84]

@@Buzzard1968 the cyclist should of waited intill the car had finished the manoeuvre that he started with plenty of time and space but instead the cyclist increased his speed and is 100% in the wrong. The vast majority of the problems on the roads are idiots like the cyclist who believe they have more rights to the road then other road users yes this does include motor vehicles as well as cyclists. However you are one of those people that believe that cyclists cannot do any wrong and it all the evil motor vehicles where as its only a small minority that's the problem.

[@Buzzard1968]

@@edwardhuggins84 ​The vast majority of the problems on the roads are people driving cars badly and dangeously, not cyclists. They cause thousands of deaths, tens of thousands of life altering injuries, billions of pounds of damage to vehicles and property and roads, pollution, travel chaos and delays. There are bad cyclists, absolutely, but not nearly on the scale of bad motor vehicle drivers and with nowhere near the same level of devastating consequences. Cyclists don't believe they have "more rights", they believe they have the same rights as other road users - which they do - but need greater consideration and care from motor vehicle drivers, as borne out in the Highway Code. And I personally am not one of those people who believe that cyclists can do no wrong. You're quite wrong to make that assumption. The cyclist here should not have confronted the driver in the way he did, as I have already said, but it's quite wrong to exaggerate the situation by claiming how bad cyclists are. It's fine to analyse and criticise individual examples of poor cycling and poor driving, as has been done here, but not to exaggerate the problem to the detriment of all cyclists.

[@edwardhuggins84]

@@Buzzard1968 you are 100% wrong the vast majority of the problems are caused by a minority of road users including cyclists who are just as bad in some respects worst as they think that they have more rights. What you are saying is 100% false

[@darrenquirk2269]

I'm a cyclist and completely agree with your evaluation of this. This cyclist has gone looking for a confrontation for You Tube content. The driving instructor did absolutely nothing wrong.

[@blacktemplar2377]

Cyclists should pay tax and insurance to use the road, and display a reg plate.

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

Road tax is an emissions tax, so no there. Insurance possibly, but how are you going to enforce that and plates?

[@christopher9727]

. Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@kenking1228]

The only twat here is the cyclist!.A large one!.🥱

[@richardrichard9631]

​@user-sf7kl9uh7k road tax was never an emissions tax. It was to maintain roads. Recent goverments have used emissions to increase tax income.

[@TheWendable]

OMG How many time have we waited patiently for a car or taxi to turn exactly like this? They give a wee nod or wave of appreciation and we wave back, always looking out to help other road users. The cyclist obviously just bought his first camera 😂

[@kasimahmed3841]

Literally happens all the time when I cycle, nothing wrong, you just lift of, tap the brake slightly and carry on, not even a slight inconvenience, I feel like people are trying to look for arguments nowadays

[@jamesbutler1029]

Agreed. That's a really bizarre thing to get annoyed about given the usual crap we deal with.

[@david103857]

from the intro I expected the guy to emerge from a driveway right in front of the cyclist not so far back.

[@shm5547]

Agree. The oncoming vehicles failing to give way at the parked cars were far worse.

[@roastedfanta9474]

Such a fuss over his 'enjoyment of the downhill'.

[@ravensthorne4631]

Yep. No-brainer to slow down if the alternative is to hit a solid object like a car. If I was driving, I'd slow down too. No big deal.

[@mackemforever]

So we have a driver who started a 3 point turn when there were no other vehicles around and the cyclist was at least 100 metres away. He didn't reverse fully off the road, so he didn't pull out in front of the cyclist as he was never out of the way of the cyclist, and his manoeuvre posed absolutely zero danger to anybody else. Did the cyclist have to slow down? Yes. Does this mean the car driver did anything wrong? No. As for "it'll be going to the police". For what? Causing you to have to very gently brake? 100% the cyclist looking for a confrontation. Part of using the roads means accommodating other road users. If we were only ever allowed to perform manoeuvres that had zero impact on any other road user then nobody would be able to use the roads! Grow up Reverand.

[@goldilocks913]

@Advanced Driving your optician?

[@goldilocks913]

@@squicker He must have been psychic as he knew what you were thinking and answered his own question lol

[@frankhooper7871]

Although I agree 100% that the cyclist had no reason to escalate the situation and could easily have passed behind the car, you can't say there were no other vehicles around when there was a vehicle (the cyclist) approaching.

[@albertbatfinder5240]

As a cyclist, I doubt the “incident” would have registered with me at all. Perfect vision, perfect predictability, everything slow and measured. I would have slid behind that car with no fuss and even a dash of finesse. Nigel has something missing in his life.

[@michaelchallen]

can we guess what Nigel might be missing.......?

[@mattkinsella9856]

"Why did I have to brake!" This sums up a lot of road users entitled mentality these days. It is frustrating sometimes when it's our right of way and someone is not as considerate as they should be, or the road is narrow with parked cars. In this instance it was actually nothing and he was just looking for a problem. We share the road with other people, it's not our private highway, things happen and we might have to brake or wait 5 seconds, big deal.

[@DaveDoc1984]

The Driving Instructor did absolutely nothing wrong. The cyclist needs to open his eyes and look further up the road, he would have seen the Driving Instructors intentions from a distance away and should have backed off. I agree with the analysis of "doing this to create content" that is exactly what I took from this. I would also suggest possibly there has been an incident between these 2 previously which we aren't aware of and this is the cyclists way of trying to get 1 over on the Driving instructor. Poor behaviour.

[@ScottyDog345]

What is the cyclists problem

[@adzmoo8899]

Driving instructor DID do something wrong. He should wait until its clear before making such a move. However, the cyclist can see what is going on and yeah its annoying that this instructor thinks he owns the road and can just decide he isn't going to wait for space to make the move but even though he is an instructor, he is probably much like you Dave and thinks there is nothing wrong with that. It is legally the cyclists right of way and the instructor should know that. But this is a pointless and petty argument to get into, cyclist should have just let it go.

[@DaveDoc1984]

@@adzmoo8899 I don’t agree. The cyclist can see what is going on and SPEEDS UP! Explain to me how that is the Driving Instructors fault? You see a manoeuvre happening in front of you so you decide to SPEED UP when approaching it? I don’t do that in my car if another vehicle is performing a turn in the road because it’s a daft thing to do.

[@stefenney3126]

@@adzmoo8899 That sounds like the drivers who see a vehicle pull out of a junction in front of them and then speed up and 'tailgate' them to make the manoeuvre look worse than it was.

[@mcdon2401]

@@adzmoo8899 funnily enough, the road was clear, and the manoeuvre would have been completed in time, but for the cyclist intentionally speeding up...

[@sanchoodell6789]

"A case of a road user with a camera trying to create content" Summed that up nicely Ashley. The instructor didn't do anything wrong at all. It was very obvious he was about to perform a 'U' turn and did it in good time. If I was that cyclist I would have instinctively slowed down and allowed him to finish the maneuver. No problem.

[@brianwhittington5086]

Watch his video carefully from the start. He appears to have done a U turn himself, to go back down the road. He's already passed a "Slow" road marking, took a blind bend, and admitted he'd normally go faster down that hill. He appears to know the road and is already going faster than the vehicles approaching him on a narrow residential road. He's an accident waiting to happen !

[@carlhartwell7978]

I mean...I'd have been angry at 'reality' lol. But not at the driver! What I mean to say is. I'm a cyclist, I know what it's like to have a nice downhill stretch and have the misfortune (that's the key word) of having to slow down for this kind of thing. Motorists might not 'get it' that they don't have to put physical effort into powering their vehicles like cyclists do 🤣. And don't get me wrong...I'm NOT AT ALL saying the driver was in any way in the wrong...I'm just saying I can understand the frustration...there cannot not be frustration, unless it's perhaps the Dali Lama on the bicycle! But would I stop and redirect my frustration at the cruelty of fate and the Universe in the direction of the perfectly reasonable driver? No!

[@ericchild3363]

@@carlhartwell7978 Well said.

[@terrygooglewassgoogle1767]

@@carlhartwell7978 Sounds like you're not a bellend. :)

[@seanrodgers1839]

Why do some people persist in calling this a U turn? It's just reversing to change direction. A U turn is just driving forward in half circle, making the path of a "U" If someone gives directions that you make a U turn some place, it means you're not backing up.

[@George-nv1ri]

Going to the police 🤣🤣 "hello police, a man did a 3 point turn a mile in front of me and I had to slow down"

[@peperami254]

Always confuses me why many cyclists have an issue with breaking. I'm in my car, I see someone ahead starting a 3-point-turn, I'll slow down or stop for them to do it. If there's someone wanting to turn right across my lane and there's a decent amount of space, I'll slow a bit and let them go. I will often know I have right of way, but will yield to someone else. Too many people know their rights with no consideration to their responsibilities.

[@andrewbaxter9395]

If that’s what he is like on a bike imagine his attitude driving a car? I’m a cyclist and the driver did nothing wrong, as you say the cyclist more or less engineered the confrontation.

[@Northstander]

Exactly, as a cyclist I employ exactly the same skills that I have used in over 30 years of having a driving licence...read the road ahead, assess risk and take advance avoiding action (such as slowing down, or even stopping if necessary) if necessary to avoid a collision...simple isn't it. This cyclist needs an element of Ogmios in their life, or at least when out on the road in some form of vehicle or another. Keep chill and carry on!

[@marklittler784]

Probably been banned from driving. 🤪

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@Northstander Yay, another Ogmios fan. During a 'well-being' lesson at school, I showed the BBC series (hasn't he done well!) to a small group of dysregulated kids. After the first episode they were begging for more.

[@whitesapphire5865]

If that's his attitude on a bike, what's he like in any situation? Probably brought up on video games, where everything is a confrontation, and everything is achieved by conquest. Preconditioned from pushchair to pushbike, to be aggressive and self-centred.

[@goodyeoman4534]

@@whitesapphire5865 But in a real confrontation, where something was actually at stake, he'd bottle it.

[@jonphilipson2129]

This is the cycling equivalent of those motorists who send in clips of themselves speeding up into a roundabout, to create a close call.

[@SirRounded]

Came to make this comment! If he'd have had a horn, he'd have used it

[@maxbacon4828]

So very true Jon.

[@Timmzy27]

I like the irony that the cyclist was more of an obstruction to the car that passed him and the driving instructor car, than the driving instructor car was to him when he just had to slow down a little and keep the flow going.

[@avonacolyte]

A cyclist once banged on my car and swore at me for doing the exact opposite to what this car does: I was backing out of a space in a car park, then saw the cyclist zooming towards me and decided to stop still until he had either stopped or zipped past. Instead he bashed my car with his hand as he passed, apparently thinking I was in his way. That was one of the few times when I have felt overcome by road rage to a dangerous extent. Luckily for me he refused my challenge to "come back here and say that again" and cycled through a barrier where the car couldn't follow. A middle-aged bloke all in the daft lycra get-up, naturally. I don't feel proud of myself at all, but I still maintain cyclists have a high propensity to be bellends - what is it about them?

[@zakneutron]

As a regular solo and group cyclist. This cyclist is an embarrassment. He makes it harder for legitimate road complaints. This is purely and simply looking for an argument, probably by someone who had recently bought a cycle cam!

[@antman5474]

Either that or he broke his curfew.

[@chris1275cc]

@Advanced Driving To be fair its probably an "insurance camera" they don't put out high quality images but they pick up number plates (just LOL) and record for hours. And they usually use old formats like AVI or Mpeg to keep the size down which KZbin does a real number on if you just let it do a standard conversion job. Stabilized "action cam" footage is great but I'd need a saddle bag full of batteries for a 4 hour ride.

[@HumansAreShitFactories]

Why does he make it harder for legitimate road complaints? Surely an intelligent person looks at each situation on its own merits, or not.

[@chris1275cc]

@@HumansAreShitFactories The "powers that be" would rather not have to deal with, what they view as minor road traffic violations unless someone is injured or there is clear evidence of intent. It took a long time and quite a bit of pressure from road safety campaigners, cyclists, equestrians, pedestrians, motorcyclists and some of the better 4 wheeled motorists to get the authorities to even look at cam footage of things likes close passes. To this day the police forces that even have an up and running system (some still don't) will put it on the back burner and let the clock run out at the first sign of a busy week, and if you have ever had to deal with getting a complaint followed up on you would know that, to be blunt, they don't give a shit and they ain't so subtle about letting you know it. The police will freely admit that they don't have the time or man power to investigate every crime. So what do you think will happen if a lot of those submissions are of non issues like this?

[@chris1275cc]

@Advanced DrivingOne of the issues with any small camera that requires a wide (ish) field of view, is it distorts the image making distances hard to judge , I've even had a few the other way around where I felt I was close passed then looking at the footage it wasn't bad, although I think the speed of the pass has something to do with that. Their is actually a light like the flag thing called the L-Bow 🙄it was a kickstarter. Terrible idea that would likely have the opposite effect today, but the company actually makes some quite innovative lights at reasonable prices, ironically just not the one the company was founded on.

[@dorothyriley5274]

I am a driving instructor and a cyclist and I agree with you Ash that the cyclist deliberately caused a situation ….. ridiculous!

[@ethelmini]

How? They'd have had to make the car do a 3 point turn in front of then for that. The driving instructor was clearly at fault. The cyclist may have reacted badly, but that wouldn't have been possible if he had nothing to react to.

[@Nickle314]

Check out Gandalf's revenge on my channel. I had the idea that you could test who was the worst, cyclist or drivers. Go to a junction, film it, and then tot up the fines and points to see who is the worst.

[@paulmurray32]

@@ethelmini Because all road users need to react safely to what is happening in front of them. The cyclist could clearly see the car was is the middle of the road as was turning around. The cyclist did not slow down and did not stay to the left of the road, therefore creating an issue that would have been avoided if he had just eased his speed and stayed to the left. This is deliberately causing a situation by failing to react to the road conditions. This is the responsibility of all, not just drivers of motor vehicles. The cyclist also failed to slow for oncoming traffic which was already passing parked cars, again failing to react to the road conditions ahead. I say it again, it is everybody’s responsibility to judge the road ahead and give yourself time to react, this was clearly not the case. If the cyclist was in a car, would he have just carried on at that speed or slowed down? He would of slowed down, so he should apply the same rules when riding a bike.

[@mcdon2401]

@@ethelmini cyclist reacted badly to a manoeuvre already underway long before they got to it. If the car had waited, then there'd have been a moan about them blocking the road and "forcing" them over to the other side. Being considerate works both ways, and the cyclist was in a better and safer position to let the car complete its turn, rather than force the issue and go in front.

[@shm5547]

@@ethelmini I actually think they did create this situation. Why did they turn around at that strange point on the hill? It's not even the top and is on a bend. Is this a road that driving instructors use for three point turns regularly? Could well be. Maybe on the way up they noticed the driving school car and turned around anticipating the three point turn. Could also be the reason they didn't stop when confronted with oncoming traffic that failed to give way at the parked cars.

[@1066gaz]

Perfectly said ashley. The cyclist can't even set up a camera right. Instructor totally calm & professional in his manner. i would learn to drive with him if i was learning to drive. Well done that man.

[@SiCrewe]

Based on the way he said "Why did you PULL OUT in front of me", I don't think he even noticed the instructor stop, reverse and turn. He just saw a vehicle in front of a driveway and assumed the vehicle had exited it. When he got home he probably looked at the video, realised his mistake, and modified his justification to suit. Beyond that, his entire mindset appears to be "I like cycling along and don't tolerate anybody impeding my progress" regardless of prevailing circumstances on the road. It's a residential area and, with the best will in the world, there ARE likely to vehicles parking, moving in and out of driveways, stopping to drop off passengers or otherwise impeding traffic flow. It's simply not a suitable area for any kind of "spirited" riding.

[@JonCookeBridge]

Ronnie Pickering on a bike.

[@beeurd]

Who? ;)

[@margaretnicol3423]

Yes! 🤣 Do you know who I am?

[@arjuns4699]

@@beeurd RONNIE PICKERING

[@St1ckM0nk3y]

@@beeurd Ronnie fucking Pickering!

[@Nickle314]

@@St1ckM0nk3y A hero of modern times.

[@stumps8672]

Deluded is an understatement, the car driver didn’t pull out on him he was in the road already doing a turn, the cyclist didn’t even have to stop, he only did to have an argument. 🔔end.

[@AJGeeTV]

Thanks for highlighting this, Ashley. There are too many deluded people today fitted with cameras, feel entitled, and looking for KZbin content. I have to admit that I've been on a bicycle in Stoke on Trent ever since my first day at primary school in 1969, and to college in 1980, and my first job in 1982. I've never seeked confrontation and treated all road-users as equal, meaning that I've never had an accident in over 50 years. The problems arose about 10 years ago when cameras, helmets, and lycra became the uniform of the 'modern' cyclist. I've only had 'Shit' of these people and I hate it. I hate it because it has caused a 'Them and Us' division (motorists and cyclists) that never seemed to exist before. Modern cyclists are their own worst enemy in my eyes.

[@Cous1nJack]

Roads are busier than 1967 though mate. Not just Lycra.

[@jtk1ify]

i have been a cyclist for over 30 years and have noticed the increase of aggressive cyclists who seem to be hell bent on creating issues with vehicle users. they are part of the reason some drivers hate cyclists, i have also noticed an increase in car driver aggression toward cyclists its all comes down to types of people not bikes and cars

[@andrewallison70]

Yes Mr Cyclist we have seen it, and the guy didn't exactly pull out on you, he reversed and turned the other way.. pay attention man. Thank you My Cyclist for just giving yourselves a bad name with zero road awareness and blaming everyone for your stupid actions.

[@Nickle314]

Check out Gandalf's revenge on my channel. I had the idea that you could test who was the worst, cyclist or drivers. Go to a junction, film it, and then tot up the fines and points to see who is the worst.

[@marklittler784]

Sometimes people are dropped on their head when they're a baby.

[@Fercough]

I saw that. All I saw was numpty road users.

[@Nickle314]

@@Fercough Correct. Organ donors practising. However the interesting part is the ratio. 101 offences [there are more, I missed lots] of which 2 were by cars. The ones I missed were stopping in a box, and not indicating.

[@Fercough]

@@Nickle314 I didn't count but more than happy to accept your numbers. I don't like the habit of blaming one group of road users or another, every group has stupid people in it (exception being horse riders, never seen anything but responsible riding). I don't have the answers but creating division ain't it. Hey ho. Take care on the roads.

[@alfresco8442]

Difficult to make out with such a jittery cam, but the first sign of the car reversing seems to be around 1:55. The cyclist reaches the point at which the car had been reversing to at 2:10...a full 15 seconds later; and by which time the car was already out of his way. He seems to be an entitled jerk with zero hazard perception and the reflexes of a slug.

[@dafyddthomas7299]

Possibly true here but one of these days %%$%$ over reaction cyclist will pick a fight with a wrong motorist one of these days.

[@davidriley1188]

@@dafyddthomas7299 Can't wait for that content to be uploaded......lol !

[@brianwhittington5086]

I bet he's your typical "Plank in Spandex with a Go Pro", and looking to criminalise any innocent motorist. He was just missing the screech of last minute braking and falling off his bike to get the full staged injury effect !

[@TheAdwills]

Good grief. New subscriber to the channel @Ashley thanks to some of the comments from cyclists on other videos that I thought were grossly unfair to you. As you can probably tell from my profile picture I am indeed a keen cyclist - I ride at least 12,000 kilometres annually (nearly 17,000 in 2020), am an ex Category 2 racer, have cycled extensively abroad as well and even raced the National Masters Championships, though 12th was my best result, I'm no Cavendish or Wiggins! Now I'm 60 I don't compete anymore, but still like to ride at a decent pace where it's safe to do so. I'd just like to add that the actions of this guy are deplorable, totally unjustified and an embarrassment to those of us who ride on the road regularly. Most impressed by the actions of the driving instructor who'd executed a perfect maneuver, commencing when the guy on the bike was miles away, and remained totally unflustered when confronted with a ranting idiot, kudos to him!

[@richarddavies233]

Cyclists are the main reason I purchased a dashcam.

[@KevinWMoor]

I don't think you could class what the driving instructor did as "pulling out". The car was never off the road even partially. If the cyclist had read the road correctly he would have seen that the car was turning around, using the driveway. The car didn't suddenly appear from the driveway. It was always there, in full view

[@thesilverydragon]

And this is how you turn the slightest of inconveniences into a massive issue. I've had gusts of wind inconvenience me more than this ""Incident"" realistically should have.

[@johndd9140]

😂

[@PedroConejo1939]

Classic. I love the double double quote marks.

[@applejuice5272]

Yep! I too have had gusts of wind inconvenience me. I just need to eat fewer beans.

[@Explore2Adore]

Driver did nothing wrong here. Cyclist can't complain, having had plenty of space to slowdown in safe manner and come to a stop were it needed. That is a driving instructor's car as well, so the cyclist should have considered that and acted accordingly.

[@cbrboy76]

If that is how wound up he gets over nothing a heart attack will get him long before a car does. What an utter nugget. I bet this tool is the type to shout at pedestrians as they cross a road whilst he tries to go through on a red light.

[@neilharrison7555]

A horrid, argumentative, self-entitled person is still a horrid, argumentative, self-entitled person, irrespective of what vehicle he's riding/driving. Sounds like he's been taking lessons from Ronnie Pickering! He also needs to improve his perception skills - Stevie Wonder could have seen that situation developing!

[@highdownmartin]

Ronnie Pickering. Hooray!

[@GavHTFC]

@@highdownmartin who?

[@highdownmartin]

@@GavHTFC RONNIE PICKERING!!!

[@GavHTFC]

@@highdownmartin who's that then?

[@jazzx251]

Unfortunately - the sort of cyclist that buys a headcam is, by definition, a "horrid, argumentative, self-entitled person" ... ... looking to catch motorists out. They want to get some value from their expense, and will look for the slightest "mistake" to justify it. And - I've noticed - they cycle extremely poorly ... because these cameras are attached to their helmet, which makes them immune from injury (they think) They think that they are Robocop on a bike - vigilantes recording every 'misdemeanour' (when really, they're recording their dreadful cycling, with no regard for the Highway Code whatsoever)

[@mcdon2401]

Hang on. So he didn't have an issue with all the cars coming up the hill and passing parked traffic (although I'd probably have given way to traffic coming uphill rather than risk the edge of the road), but gets pissy because someone carries out a perfectly safe move that wouldn't have been an issue if he'd stuck to his side of the road???? 🤔🤔🤔 Why didn't he wait? Probably wanted to get out of his bloody way. And what are the police going to do 🤷‍♂️. Tell him to see a doctor to help remove the stick from his backside?

[@jonphilipson2129]

That's exactly what I thought when I first watched it... Thought the current woke agenda was passing distance for cyclists :)

[@shm5547]

Yep. I can easily control the situation if a car is doing a three point turn ahead of me, no problem at all. But oncoming vehicles that fail to give way at parked cars put a cyclist in a very dangerous position and there's little you can do about it other than slow as much as you can and swerve out of the way. This situation wasn't terrible, there was some space and the speed wasn't high, but it was still too close for comfort, especially with the oncoming vehicle being a van. Even a car doing 20mph and a cyclist slowing to 15mph is a 35mph head-on collision; no bicycle helmet is going to save you from that.

[@marklittler784]

@@shm5547 Cycle helmets are curved so a direct force is highly unlikely at 90°

[@shm5547]

@@marklittler784 not sure I follow? Cycle helmets are only designed to offer protection against abrasions and bone fractures for speeds below 12mph. The only cycle 'helmet' that might be of use at speeds higher than that is the Hovding Airbag.

[@marklittler784]

@@shm5547 The force on something round can't really be a direct one it's virtually always going to hit at an angle deflecting the severity of the force.

[@sammydemon666]

Why does the message read like someone who failed to attend school?

[@derekheeps1244]

In addition to what Ashley said , the cyclist was facing the opposite way and seemed to about turn and chase down the car in order to create a confrontation . Said cyclist would not stop ranting on in his high pitched voice and shouting over the driver to listen to his explanation .

[@barnabywild2215]

High pitched voices are one of the side effects cyclists face when they don the silly lycra shorts and razor thin saddles.

[@PP-cm4re]

As a cyclist (also a motorist) I do get angry with other motorists pulling in front of me. Especially when I’m on my bike as it can be really dangerous for me. The disregard for my safety is what gets me angry. However, a car manoeuvring in the road that has started its manoeuvre when you are 100+ metres away isn’t dangerous to a cyclist in the slightest. It’s up to the cyclist, or any road user, to slow down and let the car finish the manoeuvre. So you couldn’t enjoy the descent on the hill? So fkn what? It’s a public road, every now and then you will have to stop/slow down for hazards. It’s cyclists like you that give the rest of us a bad name. Please get over yourself.

[@OB1KXB]

as he does say in his email, he were being cautious and he had slowed. so had he done that a bit sooner, like immediately when he noticed the car were reversing onto the driveway, he would have been able to enjoy his downhill ride with zero issues

[@HumansAreShitFactories]

No it’s not bad cyclists who give others a bad name. It’s ignorant people who look at the actions of one bad person and apply them to everybody else, based on one characteristic. Do you do that?

[@Thurgosh_OG]

@@OB1KXB It also sounds like he was on one of those electric motor assisted pushbikes, so he could have coasted a bit instead of trying to build up speed on the downhill.

[@PP-cm4re]

@@HumansAreShitFactories absolutely not. I don’t look at any particular road user driving/riding like a bellend and assume everyone in that category is a bellend. But there are plenty of people who are like that. Hence why I said he gives cyclists a bad name. Cyclists are a minority on the roads. As a minority, you represent everyone in it to ignorant people. Just look in the comment section of any cycling video on KZbin.

[@chameleonedm]

@@HumansAreShitFactories You've gotta bury your head pretty deep in sand to not realise that there are a large number of very entitled cyclists. I presume this comes from the fact there is zero requirement to take any form of highways test in order to ride a bike on public roads. Yes, most cyclists are typically fine but there is a non-negligable number that act horrendously

[@g4lna]

Nigel, just a word of advice, consider yourself lucky you picked on a driving instructor to try and pick and argument with. I know a few and they are generally quite calm folks, they've got to be, it's the nature of the job. Picking and argument with another complete stranger you never know how they are going to react, it's highly likely these days you could be picking your teeth up off the road.

[@user-mv5zt8qd9l]

Becoming an ADI is an expensive and lengthy process (we're talking 6 months and 2-3k in training / admin fees). He probably doesn't want to risk losing his licence for misconduct because he barked back at some nobody kicking off from his bicycle.

[@sandwormgod4771]

@Kens UK Adventures Id have his Go-Pro too.

[@PeterBee911]

@Advanced Driving Must be a big deal for you, since you can't help but mention it.

[@OB1KXB]

to be fair, i dont understand why the instructor stopped in the first place. he did nothing wrong, he knew he didnt hit anything. he could have just kept going and left old Nigel cursing at him for another minute until he found the next totally innocent driver to have an issue with

[@dafyddthomas7299]

@Kens UK Adventures Not if he was a violent criminal, pick a wrong fight with someone - these day's they don't hesitate in using fists or even worse a knife.

[@micklemass]

Think the Cyclist needs to get a brain check because he had a bit of a wobble there .He is a danger to other road users

[@paulwilliamson4332]

The cyclist is completely in the wrong. With all the driveways the cyclist should be riding with much more caution.

[@electricbikerider]

That’s so uncomfortable to even watch, well done that driving instructor. 👍🏼

[@hymatwat9412]

I'm a cyclist and this cyclist embarrasses me. I bet he drives a BMW McDonald's half a mile away daily

[@DarenC]

The cyclist was entirely in the wrong here and caused a dispute where none should have existed. Could see for ages what was happening. The driver didn't "pull out on" them. Cyclist just needed to slow down a little and let the driver complete their manoeuvre. It's cyclists like this who give us all a bad name. No need for it.

[@PasteteDoeniel]

He didn't even need to slow down. All he needed to do was not accelerate.

[@tkralva.6668]

From the beginning of the video, where he turned round in the road, it was like he knew what was going to happen and deliberately created the situation. In fact, maybe the "driving instructor" was his co-creator. Bottom line, if this is real, then the driving instructor shouldn't have even engaged in conversation, and just drive off, as he made his manoeuvre a safe distance from the cyclist based on cyclists speed at beginning or manoeuvre, and cyclist deliberately sped up to try and create a confrontation. The number of times I, as a driver, as a cyclist, and as a pedestrian, have had to wait for other road users to complete a move before continuing on my way. No matter what mode of transport I use, I do not have priority over others. I do not care what the Highway Code says we share the road, and no one has priority over the others. Just be safe.

[@garywallace8521]

Someone needs to tell this poor excuse of a cyclist that he is also a road user and should be aware of his environment at all times.

[@1daddyDA]

I think the cyclist is looking for a conflict. I ride and Ebike as I have said before. On the video as he pedals harder you can hear the whine of the motor increase in volume. At no point do you hear the brake blocks on the rims. So yes he’s seen this and he doesn’t even reduce speed as you say he moves more towards the centre of the road. I have no idea why anybody would do this, especially on a fast down hill….perhaps he was just out to film a conflict and get it on KZbin

[@MsOpportunity68]

I think that it is safe to say that he moved to the center of the road as he assumed the car was reversing into the drive rather than doing a 3-point turn. If he had been right and the car had continued reversing no problem, but it is that assumption that can be the difference between sailing past and having a road traffic accident. I was on my way to work one morning and while on an island saw a HGV where the driver wasn't looking in my direction as he approached. If I had assumed that he was going to stop and carried on I would have ended up under the lorry. The driver only looked and acknowledged an apology after he was already on the island. My other understanding is that if someone has started a 3-point turn, that you should allow them to complete the manoeuvre.

[@kenbrown2808]

to be honest, all I heard was what sounded like plastic wheels on rough road. it reminded me of when I was a child and I'd ride my little red wagon down hills. and his very rapid reversal to accost the driver makes me think it was much less of a downhill than he makes it out to be.

[@andrewallan6802]

It’s hard to hear the whine of the motor over the whine of the cyclist.

[@Jack-ht2gr]

I find it funny u think an ebike would have rim brakes lmao but yea cyclist is a clown

[@1daddyDA]

@@Jack-ht2gr my E bike has rim brakes

[@PF2007AD]

To anyone watching this who isn't a Driving Instructor... Welcome to our world where every man and his dog see's us a target and a soft touch. I'm assuming because there's a phone number on our cars, they know we have to sit and take their abuse. It's no wonder that there's a national shortage of Driving Instructors, I know of 5 Instructors who have given the job up since Christmas. This cyclist is lucky he picked on such a gentleman to abuse.

[@scottivlow9962]

I think it has to do more with back log on the driving test waiting period that is the biggest reason why these drivers quit. If the UK followed the US on how to do driving permits the UK would be better off. It's UK point of view they want less new drivers on the road. The UK is f....ed up when it comes to new learner drivers.

[@Stettafire]

Mind you if I had a cyclist screaming at me like that I wouldn't have stopped, I'd have driven off. Police ask, I'm a single women and I need to look after my own safety. I'd feel very threatened by that screaming and yelling

[@BenjaminEmm]

Out of curiosity why have they left the profession? Is it due to the abuse of other road users or something else? I'm really curious about this. I'd have thought with the huge backlog driving instructors would be fully booked and printing money right now. If they've left though, perhaps not?

[@scottivlow9962]

@@BenjaminEmm There is a back log with Driver's License Test. There is a video on this but you have to search the topic. Drivers Instructors will not take students once they book the drivers test appointment because like Ashley stated in another video there is not enough time. What Instructors once they do the first part they want you to call them and once driving instruction is done then make the driving test appointment. It totally stupid how the UK does the Drivers License.

[@Explore2Adore]

Pretty sure my old driving instructor would have got out the car for this guy. He was always a nice guy, but liked to get out of the car when a member of the public misbehaves.

[@markdoolan7282]

Cyclist are some of the most entitled people around. Don’t ride single file when they could and let other road users through and think that travelling at 30 km / hr holding up a tail back of cars and trucks is just fine as long as they’re out there enjoying the ride just getting some exercise while other people are trying to make a living or trying to get home after a long day. They think they are special. Pick at ridiculous narrow windy roads with no safe places for other vehicles to pass and just hold everyone up at their convenience .

[@stephenbranley91]

"Explain why you didn't wait!" - proceeds to talk constantly so the instructor can't get a word in anyway. People like that aren't interested in an explanation, they just want to hear themselves mouth off.

[@kevinslegg1576]

Blimey, one of the worst cases of ‘entitlement’ ever. The cyclist had plenty of time to slow down and then there wouldn’t of been an issue. Instead he appears to speed up and then moans about ‘why should HE have to slow down’ and that the driving instructor should wait for him. Clearly wanting to have an opportunity to get a video - but being to arrogant and ignorant to realise that it makes him look a total jerk.

[@Rockhopper1]

The cyclist should concentrate on his written English, then maybe do a cycling proficiency course. Rather than go out and bait for content. The cyclist is like any other road user, sometimes you have to slow down or god forbid wait. There seems to be a growing base of cyclists that think they are free to not be stopped or inconvenienced. This is another example of where a registration panel on the bike would have proved helpful as is compulsory insurance. Then his actions of a public order offense, and road rage could be reported and drivers and other road users including cyclists can have some peace from this nonsense.

[@marklittler784]

Probably signed up for a cycling confrontation course.

[@ianross225]

I have seen a growing sense of entitlement among some cyclists which manifests in actually looking for trouble. Sadly the Highway Code is geared to cyclists’ and pedestrians’ safety and where all common sense is cast aside in the expectation that motorised traffic will magically avoid them.

[@antman5474]

Yeah definitely don't rite proper like wot we do

[@Arsesix1462]

People issue not mode of transport.

[@ivorjones6618]

totally agree with you

[@LondonEmergency999]

Why did he want the driver to wait before turning right? He was already across the road, him 'waiting' would've stopped the cyclist completely.

[@markplenty2631]

I didn’t see anything wrong with the driving instructor turning, the cyclist is agreed deluded and abusive for no reason.

[@frankhaney8535]

I'm a cyclist. I wouldn't have given that situation a second thought. The driver carried out a reasonable manoeuvre, the cyclist could easily have passed behind the car with hardly any need to change speed. Drama queen on a bike.

[@jonp6798]

Watched it twice just to check. When the road is blocked ahead, slow down and wait for the manoeuvre to complete. It doesn’t matter whether you’re driving a car or riding an elephant that’s what I would expect anyone to do. Dude man on the bike needs to calm down in life :-)

[@richardjohnson2470]

Cyclist at fault in this video, cannot see why he got so angry.

[@Error_404_Not_Found_timed_out_]

Highway code: Wait until the vehicle has finished it's manoeuvre before passing safely. This includes slowing down or stopping for the other vehicle to reverse/park or adjust thier position. Common curtiousy.

[@Goodstegosaurus]

Looked to me more like the car was doing a 3 point turn instead of reversing completely off of the road and onto the road as the email said? Cyclist also had around 10-15 seconds to react to the VW starting to pull back across the road but didn't take any of it to react and then waited until the last moment to do anything. It almost felt like he took that time to think of an insult to shout at the driver instead of reacting accordingly.

[@ethelmini]

It wouldn't have been clear if the car was pulling a 3 pointer or reversing off the road. The instructor was definitely at fault "drive so as not to cause other road users to change speed or direction" is the mantra. Yes the cyclist could have made it less confrontational, but only because the car had created the situation for him to react to.

[@pawtrolling]

@@ethelmini it was obvious the car wasn't reversing all the way in if you pay attention to it. Also sounds liek the cyclist has an ebike so there's the fact that they're so easy to get going again, complaining about having to slow down is pretty much null and void as an argument. Just another twat on 2 wheels

[@pelicanofpunishment6]

@@ethelmini The cyclist only had to change speed because on the run up to the confrontation, as the instructor was maneuvering, the cyclist was speeding up, rather than holding his speed or easing off just a little to see what happened. And holding speed or easing off would have taken less time out of the journey than the confrontation itself did. Hell, just about every comment on this video I've seen from other cyclists is in agreement with that.

[@thunderbug8640]

@@ethelminiOh c’mon man, give it a rest. A blind man could see what the car was doing.

[@chrislaing7153]

​@@ethelmini Take off the Lycra tinted spectacles and watch again. Having passed the approaching cars, the cyclist got on to the pedals at 1:57. The reversing lights of the VW went on at 1:52. Thr VW was selecting opposite lock at 2:03 - evidence of a turn in the road taking place. Please reply with the point when the cyclist actually observed the hazard ahead and started taking action - I'll give you a clue. The point where the cyclist got off the pedals was at 2:05, thirteen seconds after the situation started to build. Want to have another look at the actual situation, with a more objective real-world view?

[@jillp1840]

Dear Nigel. There's a contributor on here called Will who once was a 'deluded' driver with road rage in the same vein as you on your bike. But he took a long, hard look at himself and has become a much calmer, better driver and is rightly applauded on here when he sends in clips of his "nice driving". Try it yourself and see. Can you see that you're wrong here? Even if you were right, isn't it a kinder thing to slow down and let that driver (no matter his profession) complete his manoeuvre? You will do your blood pressure a world of good by taking the moral high ground and telling yourself "Ah, they made a mistake" "Maybe they're having a bad day" "We all get it wrong sometimes" "They're an idiot (insert noun of choice), but I choose to make the situation better by helping out / keeping out of their way / let them get on with it." I look forward to seeing your "nice cycling" clips.

[@ibs5080]

Great post!

[@spopple88]

Well written will

[@dafyddthomas7299]

agree but many observed Nigel was at 100% fault here and lucky he didn't pick on wrong sort of motorist for a confrontation.

[@Paul1962]

Cyclists insist other road users obey the law when it suits them. They also ignore the law when it suits them! I watched a cyclist ride down the left-hand side of a police car, through a red light, and then up onto the pavement. I was so frustrated that I asked the police why they did nothing. The chances of catching a cyclist in a car, or on foot for that matter, are virtually zero, and frankly, they have more important things to do! While these situations exist, the problems will never be solved.

[@anthonygodfrey6916]

Cyclists are a danger to motorists

[@paulgriffiths531]

First of all the "Rev" makes it sounds as if the car was reversing fully into and then out of a drive, when in fact we can all see the driver was simply doing a 3 point turn (and lots of people do 3 point turns by drives as its easier and generally safer to do so). Secondly the cyclist was nowhere near the "incident position" when the car started its 3 point turn, so the cyclist had ample time to gradually slow down because contrary to popular belief, cyclists do not have a "God" given right to keep going and "heaven" forbid actually stop. I suggest the "Rev" says 10 Our Fathers and 5 Hail Marys as penance. Here endeth the sermon. Puns intended.

[@colinjames5643]

I'd wager this is a common location for driving school cars to take pupils and practise manoeuvres and this was known to the cyclist. He's engineered the whole situation. Would love to see how many takes it took him to finally get his 'gotcha' moment.

[@uavr1286]

This could explain the waiting at the start...

[@ForkCandle123]

As a non driver, the driver was far ahead of him and couldn't have seen the cyclist's slow approach. The cyclist was rude and intolerant.

[@scottyboy1809]

The cyclists main complaint was that the instructor pulled out on him, had he reversed into a driveway and then emerged turning right I would see his point. But this is clearly a textbook three point turn and started with plenty of time. As Ashley said the cyclist sped up once the manoeuvre had already started. My bet would be he has a new toy and was eager to capture some drama

[@jayross1781]

"It'll be going to the police" Yeah I'm sure the police will rush to his house on blue lights for this catastrophic injustice, and instantly lock him up until the end of his days.

[@marklittler784]

Yeah and confiscate his bike

[@sahhull]

Oooo the police response. That depends on the narrative that they are following on the day.

[@MsOpportunity68]

These days you can hardly get the police to respond to real crime. No sure what Nigel expects.

[@dafyddthomas7299]

Be funny if the instructor phoned up the rozzers and they turned up for this - probably waste %^%^%^ Nigel for wasting police time

[@stuartdean7470]

@@dafyddthomas7299 nicked the cyclist for exceeding 30mph down the hill, that would be funny.

[@garyt123]

Either he looked for the altercation or the cyclist hadn't seen the car. Either way, entitled cyclists are two a penny, they think everybody else is responsible for _their_ safety, leaving them free to do as they please, close passing pedestrians and other vehicles, riding way to fast, red lights are meaningless to them, etc. So this guy is just another bad example.

[@bennidamole3703]

Imagine debating a driver about “impeding” you and “slowing you down” whilst blocking traffic travelling the same direction. Absolutely deluded.

[@goodyeoman4534]

"I'm going to the police." Why does everyone feel so powerless these days that they have to go crying to the police for every little dispute? Aren't they mature enough to deal with a situation themselves? And what makes them think the police will even give a stuff, considering the direction they have took in recent years?

[@eccehomer8182]

Who knows? Burglary, stabbings, child grooming gangs, doesn't seem to bat plod's eyelid. Misgender someone on Twitter though and the blues and twos will be instant!

[@andrewbaxter9395]

And it adds to administration as they have to record it etc etc. Imagine going into a station saying that you had called someone in a learner vehicle a “Tw🤬🤬” because you didn’t brake despite having loads of space and time and you filmed it so what are the police going to do about it. What a plonker, needs anger management therapy.

[@MrPomdownunder]

Police would likely say "move along sir.."

[@TheErsatzMode]

It's the "I'm telling on you to the teacher/daddy" mentality these slaves have been programmed with since their earliest years.

[@ashwayn]

We did the car driver was vert upset

[@Max-lf3tx]

Militant Cyclists are out of control at the minute.

[@tony_w839]

no they are not.

[@1ns4ne1d10t]

Dear cyclist: There is nothing worse then posting something onto the internet where you believe you were wronged with a strong intention of the public to agree with you. Then the public turn and totally disagree with you and the people who also share your sport, activity, or leisure call you an embarrassment. That is a huge kick to every piece of self esteem you might have had left and I wouldn't wish what happened to you upon anyone. The only thing you can do in this situation is to remove the post and hope the public won't remember it, remember you, and others in the future won't see it either. Propaganda and bad publicity can swing both ways. I hope you learned from this.

[@tommoger]

Cyclist had a clear view, saw the car and had plenty of time to slow or stop. Then potentially committed a public order offence by swearing at the driver. Not sure why the cyclist expected any support here. Very poor.

[@ibs5080]

I'm all for looking out for cyclists but that was unreal, especially more so when you consider the big fuss over absolutely nothing here..plus sending this footage in to Ash expecting him to side with the cyclist! Extremely deluded viewer indeed! Notice also how right away the cyclist says he's going to put this out on KZbin. He obviously is looking for footage to make something out of. A couple of things I might have done differently to the driving instructor...and it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with his actual driving: Firstly, if I wanted to talk to the cyclist at all, I would have wound my window down rather than open my door, which leaves me far more vulnerable. Secondly, I likely would not have wanted to engage in any confrontation at all and would have simply driven away, ignoring the cyclist. There is no legal obligation to stick around for a confrontation, especially when the other person is being totally unreasonable. Either way, the driving instructor's driving was totally fine. What else is this deluded cyclist going to complain about? That he had to move out a few feet to get around a parked car? If he can't cope with sharing the road with others, maybe he should just stay at home.

[@PedroConejo1939]

100% mate, especially the door/window thing. I thought it was hilarious that the cyclist evidently had to touch his brakes momentarily - entirely because he set himself up to - and that sent him into conniptions but he didn't mind inconveniencing the cars driving down the road while he vented his spleen.

[@CommodoreVic20]

Agree with him making himself more vulnerable. Never open the door during a confrontation, never mind engaging - you'll never change somebody's mind anyway! It's probably because of the driving instructor trying to educate but that's just not going to happen. 'Ah yes, I see the error of my way since you've explained it all so eloquently! Good-day sir! I'll be more thoughtful next time!' SAID NOBODY EVER!

[@robinthebobin6537]

Agreed on all of that, I'd definitely press the button to lock my car doors first if I hadn't already, then roll the window down after that (I personally don't always remember to lock my doors when getting in the car which is actually something I need to work on). Nigel is evidently nothing worse than a slightly deluded cyclist looking for confrontation, however it could've been a more genuinely dangerous person which would leave the instructor vulnerable. Just to reiterate, the driving instructor basically did everything perfectly and Nigel's behaviour and mindset is baffling.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@PedroConejo1939 I would have covered the brakes until I knew the driving instructor had finished his reverse, and then, since I was so comfortable crowding past a van as he went around a parked car, I would have been equally comfortable coasting behind the driving instructor's car. I also probably wouldn't have had my camera set up to make the run look more downhill than the ease with which the cyclist reversed showed it actually was.

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@kenbrown2808 Yep, there's a few double standards from Nigel's point of view.

[@ravensthorne4631]

Judging by the poor level of English in the cyclist's email, I assumed he was a non-native speaker. Then when the clip played, showing his arrogant ignorance of road etiquette, I realised he was just thick.

[@pauldrumwell4922]

Cyclist is highly strung and completely overreacted.

[@neillambton4065]

The cyclist was definitely out to cause an incident. He started out at the top of the road facing the other way. He looked at the car and listening to the noises the cycle was making, he was going as fast as possible to catch up with the driver,. He`s lucky it was a sensible mature person, someone else may have got out and hit him.

[@ajcgolf69]

Not at any point would I be considering going round the front of the car once it finished reversing, which I guess the cyclist must have been planning based on him asking “why did you pull out”… he may claim to be an experienced rider but he doesn’t act like one

[@patrickfarrell4751]

100% correct...in this situation there would not be a chance in hell I would go onto the oncoming side to clear this vehicle unless eye contact had been made and it was clear to both parties that this maneuver was happening by virtue of a gesture or wave of some sort In this instance there was more than enough time for the car to clear the cyclist side of the road and continue Instigated deliberately by the cylist

[@mikebrown6805]

I cycle/drive, but in my opinion the Driving Instructor did absolutely nothing wrong. The Cyclist was trying to make an issue out of nothing.

[@Zipser2600]

As a car driver I sometimes encounter a vehicle turning like that. What do I do? Give them space, let them complete and carry on.

[@acheface]

My take is... The cyclist is a big wet noodle. You stopped because you wanted confrontation. One day you'll get your clock cleaned with antics like that.

[@Joshyg02]

These cyclists give the whole cycling community a bad name, absolutely deluded. Can tell he’s a typical trouble maker by him flouting his title in his message as well as embarrassing himself by sending this in. Hopefully he sees your analysis and these comments

[@KM-cb8ff]

This is what I hate most about grouping people by vehicle. I'm sorry to say but it's also one of my pet hates on this channel... How many times we hear Ashley talking about Private Hires, BMW drivers etc.. it's nonsense you get twats and good people on all forms of transport.

[@Thurgosh_OG]

@@KM-cb8ff You do but at the same time, it is noticeable how some show up a lot more than others and German car drivers seem to have a bigger share of twats driving them, than most other car types.

[@wessexdruid7598]

If it was his real title, surely he'd know how to spell it?

[@Simon-bg3st]

@@Thurgosh_OG as a Mercedes-Benz driver, I can certainly agree BMW drivers get the press they deserve.... : )

[@qwertycycling7851]

So I assume you agree (the far more common) drivers complaining about similar stuff give the whole driving community a bad name. That would include every single driver complaing about cyclists in front of them, LTN's, traffic jams, speed cameras, war on the motorist, etc etc.

[@ArchAngelManga]

I'd love to see Nigel here in the comments trying to explain himself! Bet he won't though

[@shady8479]

He is probably hiding now, he's not getting the reaction he expected from everybody, but I to agree with you

[@jimmymaxwell6578]

Thoroughly agree Ashley. Me a cyclist and motorist. there can only be a problem like this when people are inconsiderate for whatever reason. In addition, in the the footage before the confrontation, I would have been more dominant and would not have allowed such close pass with the earlier oncoming cars where there were parked cars. I would have adopted position 1 in this case and hopefully been able to share a friendly wave with considerate car drivers coming the other way.

[@paulusarnhelm704]

Some cyclists believe that they can do no wrong.

[@jmsld_]

"Going to the police" - for what?! The driver did nothing wrong at all. Cyclist just wants to create some kind of content in the hope that everyone backs him up. Well I'm afraid I've got some bad news "Reverand Nigel", you'll just be embarrassed.

[@johnb8956]

Hi Ashley, I’d be interested to know if you think this cyclist was actively trying to look for a scenario when he took this, as in, he went out that day purely to look for one. Given the fact he was stopped, facing the other direction, I think he may have seen the driving school car come past, and tried to follow him and look for a situation to get upset over. Added to the fact he very quickly said “see it on KZbin”. To me it all suggests he was trying to create a situation the whole time. Maybe I’m just being over suspicious though..?

[@b0dyb4gz1]

@Advanced Driving well you can only assume that he had only just started he ride and had not already seen the driving instructor before hand.

[@eurosonly]

I'm not sure if this is premeditated but there is a case of ego running rampant here.

[@b0dyb4gz1]

@@eurosonly I've seen cyclist's on the road as a predestination do this is absolutely nuts, watched one deliberately hit a car and say the driver hit him, he didn't and I told the police that, don't know what happened after that though, the police just wanted to move it along and not really deal with it at all, tbh no one was hurt

[@keith6400]

The driving instructor's car was turning in the road. When the cyclist initially encounters the car it is already blocking the road, not pulling out from a drive. A small amount of space is left in front of the car on the offside of the road. Logically the cyclist would be forced to slow down and stop if necessary. The cyclist does not have a realistic idea of the situation.

[@hudders11]

It's ironic how he accused the instructor of not seeing him, yet he's the one who acted like he didn't see by speeding up into "danger".

Wow I love this! "Why didn't you wait?" Well, if he would have waited he'd have been in the cyclists way, and then that would be the "problem". Wow, just wow...

[@redtela]

1:57, despite the horrific camera quality, you can see reverse lights on the car that is blocking the road (later revealed to be the driving instructor vehicle). The audio is quite clear, that the cyclist is still actively pedalling. 2:03, the driving instructor car has clearly stopped moving, wheels are aimed to their right, and he is blocking the whole road. Cyclist is still pedalling, and starts to move to their right, as if to pass in front of the driving instructor vehicle. 2:07, obstruction cleared and expletive uttered by the cyclist. Confrontation starts "why did you pull out on me there?" - when in fact that isn't what happened. The driving instructor never cleared out of the road (rather impolite to use someone else's driveway to complete a turn in the road...). In order to have that debate, about why the instructor "didn't wait" - the cyclist causes an obstruction to the vehicle behind. Best thing the instructor could do in that situation... "put it on youtube, bye bye." Now I'll listen to Ash's breakdown...

[@jimbaker4942]

The driving instructor made one mistake. Engaging with the cyclist. Could have had violent intentions. Don’t engage.

[@plbingham]

driving instructor cannot get a word in,... seems an un-necessary barrage from the cyclist. Someone who just looks for a confrontation. Agree 100% with all comments Ashley.

[@MrG-ESP]

Absolutely perfectly reviewed. There are cyclists out there that do this and just give a bad name to other cyclists, most cyclists are really nice and understand the highway code. This idiot is one of those that just need attention and look for the argument. Well done on putting this up. Love it.

[@eadweard.]

He didn't _need_ to brake: he forced himself to brake by accelerating towards the problem.

[@fromthegamethrone]

Scrolled too far to find this. He didn't need to break at all!

[@JonCookeBridge]

He did accelerate, but because he was going downhill he would have had to feather his brake not to. Not that that changes the fact he is a self-entitled road rager.

[@Aaron-sl9ov]

but if the other person didn't exist he could have accelerated and never had to brake /s

[@eadweard.]

@@JonCookeBridge He's on an ebike isn't he? I think he starts a powered acceleration, by the sound of it, at 1:57.

[@McLintox]

I like his use of the word "were" instead of "was" in his letter.

[@korneliachmielewska1394]

Im a cyclist and the amount of bad cyclist I see its unbelievable. They dont even turn they had back to see when changing lanes or turning. As a cyclist you have to be extra careful coz if the car hits you, your going down in pieces. Car will be ok- it doesn't than matter who was right.

[@Gopher31]

I hear an electric motor. One of the best things about electric bikes is that it takes a lot less effort to get back up to speed. Less reason NOT to slow down!

[@konradc12]

Correct. At traffic lights, they take off and I have work that much harder to catch them. No chance the illegal e-bikes or electric motorbikes though.

[@Gopher31]

@@konradc12 so many of those bikes bombing around at 25mph