A Different Kind of Tech Review - 100 MI on the Mihogo LX 4.0

[@floranddweleghiso-mccarthy7330]

Your perspective is very good particularly on the weight gear ratio issue.

[@davidandrew2697]

I have watched a lot of ebike reviews. Yours is very honest, objective, and thorough. So, way above average for an ebike review.

[@motu1337]

More e-bike reviews, please! I'm in the market for one to be a short trip vehicle replacement and appreciate your thoroughness and insights!

[@mooglejedi]

I'm not sure where the weight of 130 came from. The bike with both batteries is 81lbs, without is around 64 as I carry mine without them inserted regularly

[@zachradabaugh4925]

You totally should have changed the intro graphic to Craft Commuting for this one!

[@CraftComputing]

I thought the Doug DeMuro intro was on point :-D

[@benjaminjohnson6936]

I'd love to see more tech e-bike reviews! Thinking about buying a Co-op Cycles (REI), Cannondale, or Rad Power myself (my wife has the Rad Wagon 4 and it's a pretty great cargo bike).

[@draggonhedd]

Those are all fantastic options, espceially the cannondale or co-op ones.

[@da1punisher]

I am 6'5" and definitely digging this content. Having someone tall evaluate electric bikes will help me with picking one for myself. This Mihogo wouldn't be a bad choice for how I would use it. The extra charger would be nice, but it's not a deal breaker. I am a little concerned about getting a flat tire. Can I just plug it, use a backpack bike pump to get enough pressure to ride it home? Or am I looking at needing more than what a little bike pump can handle?

[@RONxSIPPA]

Tailhappy tv is a 6'5 KZbinr that reviews dozens of ebikes

[@da1punisher]

@@RONxSIPPA You rock. Gratitude my dude.

[@DBTechYT]

I also live in a pretty hilly area, but in Colorado. I've wanted to check out an electric bike, but was concerned about how they would handle the hills with my tubby butt on the seat.

[@draggonhedd]

go to a reputable bike shop and check some mid drive bikes out there, they're gonna handle hills better than these junkers ever will.

[@CraftComputing]

First, this bike certainly isn't a junker. But yes, a mid-drive bike does have more low end torque, and would be better for environments like ours.

[@OMAOILRIAN]

I love the black and brown bag that you have. Where did you get it?

[@thorgher30]

@6'3" and a mere 30" inseam i find a cruiser like my Micargi Vancouver w/high-rise bars is a perfect fit for my frame(arms straight, seat low) and shes a head turner too. I added a qs205 hub motor, Sabvoton 72150 controller and built a 42ah 60v battery and that all gets me about 40 miles @ 40mph or 90ish @15mph . 2 years of daily commuting (i don't ever drive) and cruising our burb, now coworkers and neighbors are wanting to start there builds. the area in which I live from what i have seen has less than 1/4 mile of bike paths/lanes so essentially 0 bicycle infrastructure. thankfully the fuzz is understanding of the need to travel with traffic instead of next to it. as long as we follow traffic laws they don't mind so much the mildly excessive speed (35-40mph) when our e bike limit is 28 w/PA. I used to spend 10$a week on gasoline (would be 15 to 20 nowadays) bike payed its 3k build cost off in a little over a year.

[@cheese.n.crackers]

Stumbled onto this after looking at a Mihogo One at a local bike shop. Excellent review. Better than most “bike” reviewers. Going to sub to your channel to see what else you have to offer. Nice work.

[@Wordsnwood]

Um, it looks like the bike folds for transport? But you did not address that at all?

[@jpabello]

Has anyone tried to install a padded back seat and foot pegs on the LX 4.0? Any recommendations?

[@arthuralford]

That was a great Daddy Doug intro parody

[@CraftComputing]

TTTTHHHHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSS Is the Mihigo LX 4!

[@karendurant4981]

I was wondering if you weighed this bike. The Mihogo website lists it as weighing 82 lb.?

[@karendurant4981]

That's almost 50 lb less than the 130# that you mention.

[@RedLeaderYT]

Riverfront downtown Salem, Oregon. Salem is My hometown. Have you guys tried Bends 10 Barrel Brewing Co Block Busters Sinister Black Ale?

[@DanBYoungOldMiner]

I liked the content, but I think it should be its own channel called "Craft Commuting" :)

[@HiltonT69]

Thorough review

[@fordonmekochgalenskaper5665]

Nice video. In Sweden were I live you need driving license if a bike have more than 250w and you not allowed to have electric help over 15mp/h I also like when youtubers show little bit of their life outside studio and think it can be important to

[@supersonicspeed9]

Most of Europe has tight knitted and unnecessary restrictions, and it seems from an outside view less about safety on the road, and more about maintaining car dominance, perhaps because it makes more money to have everyone on a drivers license and buying/renting cars with hefty yearly fees. Less people also means the bureaucracy will use any accident on a personal electric vehicle as a grounds to create new laws and restrictions around them. The best protest is simply to use "illegal" vehicles under the radar, because enforcement is difficult if a lot of people use them. At least you guys in Sweden can use unlocked electric scooters for the time being, and fines are small compared to your neighboring countries.

[@benreed4957]

Do people not cycle to the pub in the states? Seemed like a obvious way to fit the craft in!

[@CraftComputing]

Not really. I'm trying to change that 😉

[@tiger78e]

Though not ideal one solution with the Bluetooth would be to turn it off when near the bike if needed

[@Romnipotent]

Work out the handle angle and engineer a phone mount clamp? I mean it's more work than should be needed but Mihogo could also have an STL on their support page for such needs.

[@kinnectar820]

Great review, honestly left me torn on buying it or not. I'm very tall, so the comfort you speak of in a folding bike is very enticing, that said, the flaws make me hesitate.

[@2needey1]

Bought this 3 days ago, and it’s pretty tight! I wasn’t sure about it being quality, but trust me it will surprise you. It has plenty of torque, speed, and a smooth quiet ride. I’m 225, and 6ft. The only thing is it’s not short, under 5”7’ not going to be easy to stand.

[@jmann1487]

They stopped including an extra battery in all their e-bikes. Just some now. Customer service says it was a site error… but that was a major selling point of these bikes for me.

[@darkain]

OKAY, but what did you have to drink!? 😲

[@CraftComputing]

My last trip on the bike to the taphouse, it was a flight! Chucknut Porter Schofferhofer Radler Pfriem Kolsch Boneyard Coffee Stout Great Divide Yeti Barrel-Aged Stout

[@vinroc]

130 lbs is outrageous for a modern ebike 😮

[@markdavis8461]

Interesting review

[@AndreiNeacsu]

I am against the use of an app. A key, like many other e-bikes, solves the problem in a proper way that does not lock you out of the product once the app is no longer supported for any reason.

[@CraftComputing]

The app really only logs your trips, and serves as the motor lock. There's no tie-in at all for settings, as everything can be configured directly on the bike using the three-button controller on the handlebars.

[@AndreiNeacsu]

@@CraftComputing Thank you for the clarification! After the VanMoof problem, I really don't want an app to unlock my bike.

[@CraftComputing]

LOL, no kidding 🤣

[@StevenDLeary]

Excellent review. Yes, I would love to see more of this kind of thing; good, objective e-bike reviews! Personally thinking of a RadPower bike (26" wheels), but less battery. San Francisco?! Double the grade of your normal street! ;-)

[@CraftComputing]

Hahaha, we have some around here that give SF a run. 30* is the average, with a couple hitting 55+.

[@AndyMelton]

The day is coming when I will see you around town somewhere. I promise not to go all fanboy on you! 🤣

[@chromerims]

Very watchable, very enjoyable video. Yes, moar plz 👍

[@EndlessPlane]

Regen is only good for giving you more stopping power, ebikes don't weigh enough to get anything significant back in the battery.

[@thundergod97]

Just fine with whatever reviews you want to throw up. I used to be a bike commuter in downtown Chicago, year round. So I definitely don't mind hearing about ebikes.

[@TommyPeel]

Oof, 130 pounds is really heavy; I thought my Aventon Aventure.2 was heavy at ~75 pounds but 130 is way worse. I got my ebike back at the beginning of June and have been loving it; before that it had probably been 20 years since I'd been on a bike. The Aventure.2 will do right at 28mph in top gear when you're "out of gears" and almost ghost pedaling.

[@mooglejedi]

It only weighs 81lbs with both batteries, I'm not sure where he got 130.

[@brandonmarick2799]

So what beer pairs with this bike the best :P Crux No Mo?

[@CraftComputing]

New Belgium Fat Tire Great Notion Bicycle Oat Lighthouse Switchback 🤣

[@awetisimgaming7473]

I not only like your conputer stuff, but funny enough, I've been in bike repair all my life basically, so to see you review one is pretty cool. It's an ok bike like you said, but i also live in a hilly area, and like shredding, so i will probably pass

[@draggonhedd]

OK since all the channels i sub to are reviewing these things, ill say it here too: I work in a bike shop. We get these fat tire 20" chinese e-bikes in all the time. They are a MASSIVE PAIN TO WORK ON. And they accrue a number of premium charges beacues of this. Tires are almost IMPOSSIBLE to find for these, and they are not rated for what these bikes subject them to. I have seen so many sidewall blowouts of the very same tanwall tires you have on that one there. They are a huge safety hazard. The bikes themselves are also made of poor quality parts that you cannot repair or find replacements for because they are generic aliexpress stuff. If ANYTHING goes wrong with the brakes (and they will, usually around the 6mo mark) on these, its a full replacement since no bike shop can find spares. None of the hardware on these is treated in any way to prevent corrosion or rust, and every single joint on this thing will wear out and become loose, making you feel like you're riding the slinky dog from Toy Story. Save your money, buy a normally proportioned ebike from a reputable bike manufacturer, and avoid these like the plague, or you'll have to be doing all the work yourself and you'll be replacing entire systems wholesale, and then youll be up to the cost of a real ebike with a warranty anyway. Trust me, I have scars from these bikes, Please.,

[@CraftComputing]

Can I be honest with you (this is going to sting a little). If your customers are buying these, and you're not equipped to work on them... that's a you problem as a service provider. Source parts from AliExpress. Find a dealer for the tires. Source replacement bolts, nuts, axles, controllers, and be happy to take your customer's money to fix their problems. You can be as uppity as you want about quality, all while letting potential customers walk out the door because you don't think their bikes are good enough to be in your shop, or you can do your job as a service provider, service their bikes, offer improvements where necessary, and build long-term relationships that will help YOUR business long-term.

[@draggonhedd]

@@CraftComputing Look, sorry if it came across the wrong way but these are a genuine safety hazard. We don't sell them, we only work on them when they come in and we do our best to make sure they're as safe as possible when they come in. But all our suppliers carry is the tubes for these. We can't sell aliexpress parts (corporate says no), I'm just trying to warn people that these things are a headache to own long term. If you like it, thats fine but in my personal hands-on experience they are unsafe, hard to service, and generally poor quality. if that's a risk you're willing to take on, thats awesome, have fun with it. I just want people to understand that there are (IMO) better, safer alternatives to these for around the same cost. I'm not even recommending anything specific, I just dont want people to get hurt on these.

[@CraftComputing]

I appreciate the reply. Yes, if you're in a corporate shop with fixed supply chains, I do understand the point you're making. But my point still stands, as if you can't help customers, there's no point to being a bike repair shop. I held off on the review until I put a good amount of miles on the bike (ODO is at 93 as of writing, and was over 100 by the end of filming). I spot checked for loose bolts after every couple rides, with my longest being 17mi. Nothing of note to report, as everything was properly loctited, and outside minor adjustments, everything ran perfectly the entire time (minus the kickstand arm). I am definitely curious to see how the tires hold up, but so far, everything else has been 100% solid.

[@floppywonka]

​@@CraftComputing absolutely no quality shop is going to order bike parts from aliexpress. there is no quality control guarantee, it takes a month minimum for parts to arrive, and no recourse if there is a problem with the part once it arrives (you have a 15 day window to make any claims at all and you're required to communicate with the seller before you can make a claim, every time i've had to do this the seller takes up to 2 or 3 days to respond to me per each communication, clearly trying to make it through the 15 day window before i can make a claim). i have ordered a lot of bike parts from aliexpress over the years for my own bikes and i understand the risk i'm taking doing so. a shop relying on aliexpress parts would be a lawsuit waiting to happen. even if the customer ordered the part and brought it in for my shop to install, i'd be uncomfortable doing it without explaining to them what they're setting themselves up for and having them sign some kinda waiver stating neither me nor my shop would be liable if the part fails. calling someone "uppity" for caring about the safety of their customers is kinda shitty, btw.

[@loganjones4309]

Dude. 93 miles isn’t enough miles for something like this to show it’s true colors, and if you ever wrench on this thing you’re gonna’ see how much of a pain in the ass it is, and why shops aren’t eager to take these in for service.

[@lyledal]

I would just say that anything with a battery in it could possibly be considered "tech."

[@kendokaaa]

Man I love ebikes. I've done 3400km in 3.5 years on mine so far (not from this brand)

[@fteoOpty64]

Yikes, you are 6.4 ?. Very tall indeed. This bike suits you.

[@erl-grey]

craft biking channel soon?

[@CraftComputing]

Probably will happen, but Craft Motorsports 😉

[@DanielWillen]

I was starting to worry you soldered up a bunch of chinese batteries in parallel and made your own ebike like Kreosan

[@CraftComputing]

*glances at 1500W mid-drive motor in my garage* What now?

[@adamsteelproducer]

Wheeeeeee!

[@leviathanpriim3951]

hmm neat

[@haxwithaxe]

Re theft, they could just pick it up and walk away with it.

[@mdd1963]

“Adult toys” realdoll review?!!!

[@MindZye]

Seems like overpriced, Chinesium e-waste, likely intended for the kind of person who impulse buys an eBike from Costco/Amazon/Walmart because it looks fancy in their mind. I'd be very surprised if this same bike wasn't sold under a number of different brand names.

[@Americancosworth]

First

[@80pinguoinikator]

I'm pretty happy about this review, even if it seems to be some kind of a failure in the number of views (maybe add some beer related things hahaha) ! I use to watch a local reviewer (north French with the heavy accent and somewhat crude talking of where i grew up) it might be somewhat of an inspiration i think @103mobstories. Anyway it's nice to see that kind of content.