A Divorce Attorney and a Psychologist Talk About Marriage-James Sexton and Orion Taraban

[@mr.anonymousmr.anonymous9856]

This whole interview was just pure magic. Two great minds coming together to tell it like it is 👍

[@debraberg4513]

oh yes two unattractive middle aged men justifying having sex with very young women. They're not even wealthy lol

[@margaretcampbell2681]

@@mr.anonymousmr.anonymous9856 No it was 2 men talking, one in particular not fond of women

[@vegito179]

​@@debraberg4513stop being bitter,they r doing well than 90.percnt of the population in this day n age,they have a audience nd are not broke

[@prittyugly86]

​@margaretcampbell2681 which one did you think didn't like women?

[@damedagreat3174]

The truth is real lol

[@kdeloris2225]

If you marry the wrong person you just may end up needing both of these guys.

[@briannarose1996]

I can confirm this 😂😂

[@SIMPicide]

pretty sure the whole point of this talk is that the odds are YOU WILL

[@jackiedecleene]

😂😂😅

[@bustabeans7917]

If you're married long enough... you'll need both of these guys for sure

[@asiadp]

😂🤣

[@ScottElblein]

Mark just turned the camera on and went out to lunch.

[@DD-hf4qs]

😂 .. I was saying out loud . I wanna hear Mark speak ... Oh & not that it matters to anyone here reading all these comments. I actually was doing my little artsy stuff for.a Client listening in .. 😂😁 .. Good Guys .. Gone Fishing 😂

[@CC-hz1qm]

He’s so good… he doesn’t even need to be there anymore 😅

[@lauramcneil1504]

Legit forgot what channel I was on for a goood while 😂❤

[@Jabo__Jabo]

Lol. Mark tells us all the time he doesn’t like to talk. 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭

[@Laphroaig16]

😂

[@CupcakeFace-nz8px]

Most of this interview is the attorney talking and the psychologist listening which is very accurate to their jobs. Lol

[@wesleyAlan9179]

😂 haha, yes!

[@CupcakeFace-nz8px]

@lvr8429 yes!! Lol

[@NitaChristl-ye7wj]

You have to listen closely to hear what a big talker says😂😂😂

[@whooptydoo6256]

Annoying AF

[@LauraMichellez]

Yes!!!

[@lindaa2107]

The attorney has a lot to say. He talks with his hands and his facial expressions. The psychologist, when interrupted, smiles and waits. They both offer words to reflect on!

[@bizesarah1]

I would love to see a woman divorce attorney and woman psychologist talk and respond to the male view point.

[@minounah]

100%. Never heard the psychologist before but past vids from JS betrays an underlying old school contempt for women

[@samb9403]

Would be interesting for sure, probably would not learn anything though.

[@digitalusmaximus6044]

@@minounahperhaps you did not understand that he’s a divorce attorney. Is it conceivable that he has some amount of insight that you may lack? Consider also that he would necessarily have had both male & female clients.

[@farrukhalavi5460]

Well seeing men and women as adversaries instead of allies is the problem. Nobody gets divorced because they didn't want the marriage to work. They get divorced because they didn't know how to make it work.

[@simone9707]

@@farrukhalavi5460 Well said! how true.

[@Queen_Lilibet]

Orión is very confident. He doesn’t need to do all the talking. Listening is an art.

[@letsparchmentitupyo7566]

drewth

[@jessicastevens2481]

I completely agree. This attorney obviously has experience but he’s dark and he’s on the narcissist spectrum.

[@hugevagiine]

He’s brilliant at it 👌🏼

[@dizzzzzzler]

@@jessicastevens2481I don’t believe he’s anywhere near being a narcissist and is simply an expert enthusiastically speaking on a topic he’s passionate about, while displaying a high verbal IQ. That narcissist label requires a clinical diagnosis in order to hold any validity and is currently a buzzword being misused without understanding the implications. All people have narcissistic traits to varying degree throughout their life and mental development, but less than 1% of the population is actually suffering on the narcissistic personality disorder spectrum. Edit: minute 37 addresses my sentiment. Haha 🤣

[@Kobe-jz2zz]

​@@jessicastevens2481wtf He just seems very passionate about he's talking about. Not everyone is the same

[@Ayaymeer]

The bromance in this pod was off the charts

[@jhay_vine5083]

real🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Spaceghost87x]

🎯 😅

[@Cats-lm8jn]

They would make a good couple

[@waterbug1135]

Huge audience of potential customers for both. They both get that and so very positive about the other. A business alliance. Smart.

[@dorothylocke3946]

That was my first thought too. Still I enjoy 😉

[@brendamedrano4730]

Orions Talent includes, mirroring (making ppl feel comfortable) listening (or making ppl feel heard) and striking the point with real creative analogies. His body language is calm, open and attentive but firm.

[@user-xs5dp4gw8e]

I'm 2 hours in and still waiting for Mark to ask a question 😂

[@RedRumble14]

haha like a description of a vieo game character!

[@moctagonecologyst2441]

Orion is spot on - I’ve always said that a wedding is something you should have after you’ve been with someone for 30 years and had a successful union. The party celebrates what has been achieved. Throwing a party for something that has yet to happen and no one knows will work out has always seemed backwards to me.

[@chantellicopter]

That’s what anniversary celebrations are for

[@YoungSantasGroupie]

For more traditional cultures, the celebration is about the coming together of two families. The celebration is meant to encourage this unity, "greasing the wheels" of cooperation, so to speak. But yeah, it's not about celebrating a successful union as that hasn't been achieved yet. I think that parties for both occasions make sense (the beginning of the union and the success of a union). However, modern weddings aren't so much about celebrating a union as they are a celebration of the bride. Women in western culture have long been led to believe that their wedding should be the most beautiful/special day of their lives. The expectation placed on that day is rather counter-productive. Not to mention that this "special day" is viewed by the parents of the bride and groom as a chance to impress their family and friends Between the expectations of the Bride on her "special day", and the desire of the bride's/groom's parents to impress, the price tag often becomes enormous. The price of a wedding can be a big stress for a newly married, even if it's fully covered by the parents.

[@DipsSauce7388]

Many times people date for 5, 10, 15 years or more then finally they get marry. However, soon after marriage they get divorced and the relationship ends. It seems that once people get married the stakes get higher, not jist financially but, emotional as well. Something deep changes in the heart and mind that somehow is never triggered during the dating or engagemnet period. There is more to than just tradition or a piece of paper. Just saying.

[@eyekandy3000]

@@DipsSauce7388 I don’t think it’s that deep. The first five years at a job you might still be happy but 10 -15 years down the road your priorities may have shifted and they’ll just be more negatives than positives about staying that you have to move on. Of course we don’t look at people like we do at jobs. everyone will tell you, “you have to make it work, you have to compromise, do it for the kids.” But if people could just accept that we had a good run and the amount of work to keep making this good for a mediocre outcome is not worth it. at least that’s where I’m at in my life! Lol

[@InTecknicolour]

i've always felt that a lot of people get married for a wedding instead of getting married for the 20,30,40+ years that come after the wedding day.

[@marisaortiz5819]

Orion spent this whole time diagnosing James 😂😂

[@hobojungle1]

Absolutely lol.

[@carriemckamey9495]

😂😂😂

[@VeronicaNicole4778]

Totally 😂😂😂

[@aren1998]

James seems easy to read doesn't he?😂😅

[@SCcowgirl]

Lots to unpack there 😆 not enough time in this session.

[@ivaloowilson3524]

My late husband were together 25 years til we got married. We were together for 35 years til he passed away in myarms of cancer. Unconditional love ❤️

[@Funluvinblonde]

I’m so sorry for your loss 😢

[@casey5535]

Sorry for your loss. 😢

[@Dragonfly-gx3jw]

❤

[@a.marvellehoneyman4560]

❤do you have faith, in God? I’m sorry for your loss, asking because it can take a supernatural outlook to stay married through tough sickness….

[@waterbug1135]

Always conditional.

[@denastamp7623]

I absolutely love the comments on these videos. So many intelligent, articulate, insightful people. It’s refreshing to see positivity!

[@janetmcbee]

I'm just a spectator trying to understand this changed world. Too complex to really find a soft place to fall. So I've decided to not persue anything but Friendship. I belive that's one of the important missing links and happiness within❤️

[@rickluoni9763]

Perhaps many or most marriages fail because most people have no clue what marriage actually is or entails. I tell every couple who comes to me contemplating marriage: The WRONG reason to get married is because you are "in love." Marriage is NOT about being "in love." Marriage is the commitment to "love." Now, let's define what "love" is: an action, sacrifice, decision, and choice, and then see if you are "crazy enough" (committed) to be willing to make that type of sacrifice. The next thing I tell them is: "The single greatest thing you can do to love your spouse is to deal with (heal) your crap. In other words, spend all the time and money necessary with Orion prior to marriage or spend 10X that amount with James afterward.

[@sonnystormg]

I think these are some wise words. I never really thought about marriage, but I do want to be a better boyfriend and can see myself growing old with my lady😅 I’ll take heed to your words. You’re definitely on to something!

[@theangelwearsprana1869]

❤

[@KwekuTed]

Succinctly put!

[@ironchariot6711]

People are fooled into Hollywood romance which is completely unrealistic

[@zaq1337]

Great comment. 👍

[@jackietheman]

Man, getting these two in a room is incredible now I gotta listen to this

[@pghPATRICK]

10:02 “The # of prenups has gone through the roof”.. “”ah good”. There is seriously something wrong with this collection of ego strokers.

[@goofywill90]

I thought they had a crossover before. Maybe that was Orion on white underbelly after James.

[@MiguelRPD]

​@@pghPATRICKprenups are insurance and there's nothing wrong with them you damn Christian

[@pghPATRICK]

@@MiguelRPD What makes you assume I’m Christian?

[@purpleduck4209]

@@MiguelRPD there's nothing wrong with being a Christian, there is something wrong with being bitter about someone having an imaginary friend when you're alone. 🤣

[@andrewwabik5125]

My wife and I have been together for a decade. To be honest, it shouldn’t have worked. My mother and father had a horrible marriage and separated when I was 8. My aunt cheated on my uncle…they got divorced. My grandfather cheated on my grandmother many times…they got divorced. The list goes on with extended family. I grew up seeing nothing but horrible decisions and people not getting along. How the hell is my marriage working? I don’t know. I think people make it too complicated. My wife’s beauty goes well beyond her physical appearance. I kind of see us as allies in a cruel world. We help each other. We’re here for each other. That’s it. It’s not about positivity 24/7. It’s about joining forces and fuck everyone else.

[@desertboot9755]

Well done to you guys. I'm so relieved there are men in the world who admit it's not just about looks and a commercial value.

[@scarlett198]

Bless the both of you! This is love ❤️

[@lifenotbills]

Yeah, sounds like you are both emotionally mature and genuinely partners in life, as well as friends who are compatible. Also, you clearly aren’t shallow to have said that your wife’s beauty goes well beyond her looks. Emotional maturity, intelligence, depth, compatibility, and genuine care. Sounds like a recipe for success.

[@lepham71441]

My family and extended one are the same. Both of my grandfathers didn't cheat but were verbally, physically and financially abusive to my grandmothers, one was overworked and the other was a housewife. Yet they stayed till the end and took care of their husbands when they were bedridden. My parents got divorced when I was 8 and my father never paid child support. My aunt husband cheated on her and kicked her out of the house along with my little cousin in one rainy evening. My other aunt generously funded her husband and his children from previous wife only to be resented in later years as a 'evil stepmother'. The list goes on. There was rarely a good role model in terms of relationship and marriage in my life. But I guess at least there were bad examples to learn from. I came across Buddhist teaching by Thich Nhat Hanh on love later in life and have been trying my best to instill that in my relationship. I have also learned a lot from my fiancé on communication and letting my mask down. I hope we could maintain the level of contentment and appreciation as you and your wife do. The idea of "allies in a cruel world" is very beautiful.

[@andrewwabik5125]

@@lepham71441 that sounds wonderful. I don’t know if a fort mentality is right for everyone though. My wife and I have been very hurt by people in the past. I don’t want to make it sound like everyone else is bad or “against us” in some way. But I think there are advantages to committing to the idea of having each other’s backs. When things are good, things are good, and when things aren’t good, we become closer and lean on each other. I was severely verbally abused as a kid, and it took years of compassion and hard work on both of our parts to get me in a better place. I don’t want to make it look like I’m all good. I’m certainly no better than anyone else…at best. But we tend to choose the harder roads in life. She’s striking out in her own with her own business and I, who’s been on unemployment for 4 months, decided not to move forward with employers who look to be pretty toxic. The risks are big. We don’t play it safe. No matter how hard we fall, we’re devoted to picking up the other…no matter what.

[@Greg-b6g]

props to Orion for managing to tolerate James' talkovers...Orion is a class act.

[@chrischris9157]

Listening to James was exhausting here

[@ComradeLarue]

I think he is a great listen, more than likely just excited to have this type of discussion. He is an attorney too by the way, so he is used to talking.

[@abetterhandle]

​@ComradeLarue you can tell he's having a hard time trying to contain his excitement

[@JamieOCharlotte]

Orion is a misogynist. I don't understand why people can't see that in his interviews. His advice to women ---- go be a slut and catch a guy that way! He's demeaning. James simply has one of those exhausting, over zealous personalities that can get old real quick. These are my opinions of course. Yours may differ and I respect that.

[@margaretcampbell2681]

As a male you would say that

[@IAMBADOMEN]

This is why I absolutely love this channel and why I think Mark’s work is incredibly important. No where else could you find this kind of conversation.

[@yvonnedeboer7535]

Not as a woman!

[@PneumaNoose]

You should listen to this lawyer’s interview on the Diary of a CEO podcast. That was incredible.

[@migueltonnies6856]

I like hearing our 50/60's white het position be discussed....

[@miroz5824]

Almost 3 hours? :D What is this? SWU is becoming a full-blown documentary and learning channel! Mark, your dedication is incredible! I salute you sir 🙇

[@jonailloyd7269]

And the crazy part is most of us listen to all 2:55 minutes of it!

[@lesliecano4963]

I have no attention span and this somehow grabbed mine! Bravo.

[@miroz5824]

@@jonailloyd7269 I certainly did and have to admit that this was better than expected!

[@EmileaLiebe]

Annnnd there's an additional 45 minutes even after this 3 hour video, posted to Mark's website! Hahahaha can't believe how long they can go on conversing but how captivating it was, I couldn't stop listening!

[@brianmeen2158]

Yeah I honestly can’t imagine being on a podcast for 3 hours. I’d run out of things to say after 45 minutes 😃

[@courtneyhalligan7397]

I would have liked to see a female attorney and/or female psychologist inserted into this discussion as well - there is a lot of male perspective here without counter points to make it a true well rounded discussion

[@nathanmartin9560]

Go do your interview boo boo

[@zambecky8812]

I have a feeling that Mark is behind the camera doing naked yoga this whole time.

[@kdeloris2225]

I love Mark❤️

[@FluffyMoonRabbit]

😂😂😂

[@SundayMorning1234-l2r]

Mark is the man I love him😆

[@aren1998]

I have done Yoga for years this is the first time i heard of naked yoga😅😅😂😂 how?

[@carobinsonrobinson3109]

Hilarious 😂

[@Brant_Stanford]

Sexton is a true trial lawyer. He's performing the entire time and just can't help it. Only the few closest people to him knows who he is

[@LoShanelle]

which is?

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

I met him at Gracie's when I trained there. Didn't even see him online yet then I saw some interviews and was like oh shit it's that guy. Very friendly dude IRL just a toned down version of how he is here.

[@lifenotbills]

Im unfamiliar with the dude. Maybe he’s a great trial attorney. But acting on the trial stage, just as the theatrical stage, attracts plenty of self absorbed complete Narcissists who no one really knows because they don’t have a genuine relationship in their entire life. Also, his tattoos seem like gross compensation for a sense of inadequacy cause dude is not, legitimately, enough of a tough guy to have skull tattoos. I know some tough fucking bikers. He ain’t tough.

[@Cats-lm8jn]

@@lifenotbillsanyone can like any form of art, if you like you have to be a biker to have a skull tattoo you have a very twisted view of art/tattoos/life.

[@krystal7958]

​@@Cats-lm8jn Tattoos are for morons

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

"people lie to each other, but first and foremost lie to themselves." Very true statement by Orion. One of my favorite quotes, by Anonymous: "The deception of others is nearly always rooted in the deception of ourselves."

[@izzydeadyet7336]

I turned 40 recently and I felt those illusions drop off.. I e been trying to figure out what's different, my thought process has changed so much leaving me in such confusion.. but I think that's what it's been, those old illusions dropped off and now I see everyone and life differently

[@SailorJerritheDogTrainer]

The Big Book always spits the truth. (The blue one)

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

@@SailorJerritheDogTrainer HAHA, yes. It's a program for life, not only sobriety.

[@CBEEBLE]

That’s nothing new. It was one of the major themes of Dostoevsky’s novels: A man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point where he does not discern any truth either in himself or anywhere around him, and thus falls into disrespect towards himself and others. Brothers Karamazov

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

@@CBEEBLE as much as we remind ourselves-or rather as you point out it’s nothing new--few people reflect on this in any meaningful way.

[@dhd-00]

Being with my ex narc for the past 8 yrs. made me observe this very pattern. I think they wanted to feel very important in a way that is disturbing. Instead of building trust with their intimate partners, they destroy the trust that they built with you (in that case lying when they tried to put you in their pedestal). Once they have a committed partner, they can’t stand being loved authentically by one person. Instead they go on and prey on other women that is susceptible to their love bombing. My ex narc was a compulsive pursuer in a relationship. He would go back and forth to the women he were involved before or try to meet women in complicated situation so that going public isn’t an option while having you as their main supply. In the end they destroy the very person that loved them. They are like toddlers testing your love for them. Showing and telling them you love them isn’t enough, they will cheat on your face to make you feel inadequate even if you are more than they deserve. They want to test your love for them so they keep hurting you and when you have enough of their abuse, you leave. Then they tell you, ‘you never loved me because you abandon me’. Well in fact it’s their actions and narcissistic behavior that made you leave or in other cases they discard you and will give silly reasons of the discard. Mine would use, ‘she’s crazy’, ‘she’s a nega-star’, ‘she insults me’, ‘she cheated on me’ et al. So with this pattern of infidelities and emotional abuse (who knows what else) it’s better to walk away. I did walk away and is now rebuilding my life with our daughter. We are struggling financially because I’m not earning enough to provide for my daughter but now we get to laugh and bring with us sunshine every day. No lies, no abuse and no fake love. We only live once, forgive yourself and move forward but never forget the lesson that narc abuse taught you. That is to respect yourself to walk away from what’s hurting and destroying you. That you deserve a life of solitude, happiness and love. Hugs*** :) Additionally, If you suspect cheating or other forms of manipulation and need to gather evidence for your own peace of mind, you may consider reaching out for assistance. For more information, you can contact: MetaspyHub@gmail. com.

[@Magnificent86]

I never clicked on a video so fast!!! This is in an EPIC collab!!!! Yaaaaaaaaaaay!!!

[@Sabrina-LosAngeles]

💯💯💯

[@VaselaBella]

ABSOLUTELY!!! #gluedin

[@scottwhitfield1456]

💯💯💯

[@colleenhavers3883]

It seems like a lot of people have left the most important factor out of the relationship. RESPECT!

[@wildhorses6817]

Absolutely. That was missing in my marriage, it's painful.

[@tcoom76]

@@wildhorses6817honestly in any relationship. It’s a death spiral once disrespect creeps in. Petty drama becomes war. Not everybody deserves respect though so I keep to myself.

[@ryandariushwood225]

There is one single takeaway from this video: James has an intense crush on Orion.

[@andreavanda5402]

I think they're going on the day afterwards. 😂

[@ninofromcanada4296]

😳Ahhhh Noooo

[@aren1998]

I get what you mean😂

[@laamiroly]

Ohhh, thou hast hit thy nail on its head! 😈 I laughed my ass off when he mentioned his "heterosexual male brain." Having grown up in NYC and having had predominantly gay male friends, my "gaydar" goes off like a tornado siren with James. Mentioning that he lives in Chelsea made me laugh harder. He is, at the very least, bisexual, but I doubt it.

[@Irarelycommentbut]

HAHAHAAHHAHAAH YESSSS

[@mariaespinosa9143]

I think part of the main problem in any relationship nowadays is the thinking of, what is it in for me. We’ve become a very self-centered and selfish society. We need to stop and think about what the other person is feeling and/or needing more often and be empathetic to that. And become more emotional intelligent to be able to pick a partner that fits more with our morals and values, which is the base of our personality.

[@ManPursueExcellence]

A divorce attorney and a psychologist walk into a bar 😂

[@IfSemper]

Ha, ha...

[@casey5535]

cute 😂😅

[@lorenanders702]

The 3rd guy ducked right? 😅

[@ManPursueExcellence]

@@lorenanders702 😂

[@JamesENjeruN]

And the bartender goes on vacation. 😂

[@christopherchoyce5116]

As someone currently contemplating divorce, the hardest lesson i learned is LOVE isn’t strong enough to keep me in an unhappy relationship. Support emotionally and financially play a major role in this downfall

[@patriot350]

So sorry. I’ve been through 2 divorces. I’ve been single for 20 years. Relationships are painful af.

[@thecommonsensecapricorn]

I needed to see this. I’ve been giving my relationship with my ex from 5 years ago another try, the love is strong with him, but he can’t be there for me emotionally. I wrote a long letter to him communicating my feelings on this and if he thinks he can work on being more supportive emotionally and if he can’t we should part ways. We’ll see what comes of that. I’m not going to stay in a relationship where I don’t have that emotional support. I’m not even worried about staying, because that’s not me, my emotions are too intense, if I gotta leave, I’ll leave, but I will give things a fair chance to change.

[@christopherchoyce5116]

@@thecommonsensecapricorn i appreciate the honesty. Ive been married for almost 9 years. I care for my wife but after asking for financial assistance for over 5 years it finally sets in that maybe that’s just not in her plans and rather live mediocre than a fruitful life. Its been so exhausting and at this point Ive got to take into consideration my sanity

[@Learnplayandgrow]

@@christopherchoyce5116 you can love someone but come to the realization that they are No longer your forever partner emotionally and financially. That happened to me when I hit the 22 yr of my marriage. The last 4 years I spent with my ex husband we nit happy for me. He became complacent with me being the provider financially and emotionally we completely grew apart no intimacy or sexual relationship for many years. I felt very alone, and lost so much respect for the person whom I thought would be my partner forever. I left because i wanted more for the remainder of my life. It was the right choice for me, I know that now five years later.

[@SumTingWong1482]

@@christopherchoyce5116​​⁠​⁠ I hear you brother. I was once in the exact same spot as you are right now. I remember those times of anger and depression. Resenting my loud and crazy wife almost every minute of every day, for years and years. Beyond exhausting. I literally had to give up on my dreams to stay married. The good news is, my dreams were actually quite meaningless. My dreams were all about money, material possessions, and trying to be rich and successful so I could enjoy the intense pleasure of impressing people with what I had and making my friends and family sick with jealousy. I eventually realized that my wife always had my back, took good care of me, not financially (at all), but emotionally and through acts of service. I appreciated that part of her tremendously and I really needed that in order to feel like a whole person. Being broke but having a good woman was better than being rich and giving up half my shlt and paying alimony and child support. F all that mess. I have friends that went through divorces and it damaged them permanently. 20 years later, my wife has been working full time making a decent salary, I’m doing well making a good salary at a place where I’m actually appreciated. My daughter is a few months from graduating college (our only child) and all the resentment and frustration I had with my wife the first 10-15 years we were married eventually faded away. We’re happier now than we’ve ever been. In contrast, my best friend of 40 years is a multimillionaire, but his wife and kids are a total mess, he’s going on trips all over the world hooking up with prostitutes, has 3 multi million dollar homes, a $250k boat, cars, toys, $1000 bottles of wine and booze, just loaded to the gills. But it’s exhausting being around him because he’s now absolutely miserable and an annoying alcoholic. That could have been me. I wanted to be him for 35 years of our 40 year friendship. But I’d much rather have my life than his right now. Give it time and go down your own path. Go with your gut, and be thoughtful about it. What will come will come, and you just get through it.

[@tiffanybazemore3058]

Mark, no one on earth can legitimately say that you have no contributed positively to man kind. The value of your work is immeasurable. A talk with these two gentlemen in my book, is a golden ticket! Thank you! Well done!

[@yvonnedeboer7535]

I love it but I miss Mark😢

[@purpleduck4209]

Both of these men have influence to me and my life profoundly. We appreciate you

[@elvirammusic]

Telling women that their beauty is as valuable as money and compairing the two is sooo damaging. So many woman realize to late that nothing gives you the amount of power over your own life and happiness like money does. Money isn't subjective and the value can't be argued. Money doesn't expire. To even compare the two is insanity. Other than that I learned and appreaciated this video alot. Gained alot of insight and understanding.

[@elvirammusic]

Also the two of you showing so much appreciation for a woman's work at home, when I first hear it, it sounds very genuine, and I truly believe it's genuine but for insidious reasons. I can be wrong ofc but it feels like you're so appreciative of it because you know that's the shit end of the stick. You're really thankful that you don't have to do it. I don't really see men dreaming of being home husbands. And being a home wife isn't heard, it's just not forfilling for alot of people no matter the gender. And to waste your life on something so mundane and nonfullfilling is the ultimate sacrifice. That's why I think alot of home wife's builds a resentment and bitterness. She's wasting the only life she has on something that she feels indifferent towards. When you have a regular job you can change direction and change your mind multiple times without your whole safety net crumbling along with it. If your full time job is intertwined with family and your employer is your husband there is no room for changes unless you're ready to lose it all and take away the safety of the family.

[@elvirammusic]

In conclusion, you can't rush into the rest of your life before getting to know yourself. For the sake of you and for the sake of your future partner.

[@tandelaf]

The comparison lies on each of the "asset's" inherent value. Problem is that men's status/money/wisdom tend to go up, and women's beauty definitely goes down in time.

[@joashedwards7206]

​@@elvirammusicso much complaining ....oh wait.....nevemind you're a wahmen

[@elvirammusic]

@@tandelaf Yes I understand the comparison but I don't even think you can use the word "inherent"(as you put it) value when discussing beauty. Beauty isn't only fleeting, it's subjective, meaning the value is determend by others and changes depending on who you ask. Money has an inherent value since we all agree on the value and it's consistent. Relying on your looks is giving up your power/control and putting it in the hands of others while having money is quite the opposite. Money gives you the freedom to disregard others opinions since you can rely on yourself.

[@amygalvin1799]

The therapist seems to be very grounded and real. The lawyer is living in the 1% bubble. Both very interesting.

[@Mich-jk2ze]

He gets to see when it goes bad. Definitely shapes his perspective

[@SaraMolnick]

Very true. It’s interesting insight into the 1%. Marriage does seem much more transactional. Middle class marriage is so much more complex hahah.

[@malachistice8111]

​@@SaraMolnick Poor people may have less wealth but that doesn't make marriage any less contractual. Tommy has a quad junkyard and Shiela has DD's - match made in heaven.

[@peep14]

@@SaraMolnick i’m so glad someone else said it lol i was watching thinking these are rich af problems when a marriage is simply reduced to sex and desire 😂

[@JustMeeZZ]

If the lawyer only has top 1% clients - and it seems like he does - then, of course, he's in a bubble.

[@theslitherysylvie4010]

In my experience, judge your boyfriend/girlfriend by how they treat others, not just how they treat you. Feelings change and you change as you grow, so choose a compassionate and kind person. ❤

[@yvonnedeboer7535]

Well said!!!

[@avengemybreath3084]

Unless they treat everyone else incredibly well, but not you.

[@pagie2467]

I love the conversation, and I do think it gives you an insight into what men want, need and expect in a marriage. The issue for me is that they really don’t spend enough time talking about why 70% of women leave the marriage. I’m not an expert so I can’t really say. All I know is that most women are not gorgeous young women that marry older rich, successful men. The average women I know marry average men.If they leave it’s usually not for money because they really don’t have any. It’s genuine unhappiness in the division of household duties, time with their children, the lack of intimacy, respect and being taken for granted. I think more women work outside the home and tend to want a partner rather than a traditional dynamic.

[@missfromsunshinestate]

Finally. 👏Thank you.

[@primeascendant797]

You say you're not an expert so you can't say, but then you proceed to speculate in a way that favors women. Color me surprised. But why stop the speculation at that level? Maybe men stop having sex with their wives because they use pregnancy and childbirth as an excuse to get horrendously fat and unattractive. Maybe their wives never listen to them anyway, and they aren't getting sex, so the man doesn't feel loved and appreciated. Maybe the man is the primary breadwinner and has a more stressful job, so having the woman do more chores is more fair. Anecdotally, the nuance I listed has been facts of life for me. My mom stopped having sex with my dad and surprise of surprises, he cheated. I charged less rent for my ex and she agreed to do more chores, and that wasn't good enough. In the end, you accomplish nothing by speculating. The cold hard facts are that women end marriages 70% of the time and children are born to single mothers 40% of the time. In both marriage and sex, women are the gatekeepers, and guess what? They are doing a terrible job.

[@mudblood9699]

Women don't want to go 50/50 in relationships. Wives outearning their husbands predicts divorce.

[@whitneyleveling6142]

They are not very realistic at all -they’re only dealing with fall out and think they know the answer to success. It’s not wildly accurate but rather a uniquely narrow view.

[@Lex_Lugar]

This is a good insight. The psychacks guy has much more nuanced takes on his channel. Unfortunately this NY lawyer just hijacked the conversation. Very stereotypical.

[@ArtOfMoney1]

I’m 33 years old and only been dating my girlfriend for a year. All my life I’ve seen everyone around me cheat on each other and divorce in my family and also my friends. I’m afraid I’ll end up like them if I ever get married. I want to break the cycle and have a happy marriage. I want to grow old with the love of my life. Wish me luck 😅

[@rollingloud1549]

Get a woman from outside of your country brother.

[@pootz8082]

I’m 33 and married have been with my girlfriend who is my wife now since we were 14 years old started off as friends then became boyfriend and girlfriend . Now we are married and have been for 6 years

[@ArtOfMoney1]

@ I love hearing stories like this. You did it right and showing everyone it can absolutely be done.

[@PossiblyAzrael]

I’ve watched all 3 of these channels forever now. Ive always taken notes from these two powerhouses. For the last 3 years. The amount of times I’ve matched and gained insights in real time. This is one of the greatest collaborations ever to happen to KZbin. Thank you.

[@j-r-hill]

I would never have imagined these three coming together. What a time to be alive

[@scottwhitfield1456]

@@j-r-hill💯

[@weberlin5821]

Mr. Sexton’s enthusiasm for Dr. Taraban in the beginning of the video is…perhaps the ultimate bromance 😂😂

[@Earl_TheSquirrel]

Hell yea, that’s what real men do

[@patriot350]

Seriously a beautiful thing

[@Handle8844]

Not jut at the beginning. He his kissing ass at several points in the video.

[@kwh6769]

He’s a genuine fan, appreciation and gratitude are pillars in life

[@jack-so7uf]

Sexton appreciates no one but himself. No bromance. Wake up people.

[@itsnemosoul8398]

I don't want my generation to tell me what an amazing person I am for being a mother. I want my husband to tell me what an amazing mother I am for not doing the bare minimum. For making food from scratch, from including the kids in what I do, for teaching them about life, for having the patience every single day over and over again and THEN still being loving/caring to my husband after a long day.

[@dubaiedge]

But those are details. They don't notice these distinctions. They're just looking at whether you're meeting their own needs.

[@JanzZone]

But when they get home and the home is lived In and after one long day you don’t make dinner out of the entire week There’s no food ever when they complain 😂

[@elsa_nyc]

You deserve that, but American Culture doesn't value it, sadly.

[@ninofromcanada4296]

👏🏼💌Women Like 🫵🏼

[@elsa_nyc]

​@@ninofromcanada4296what is that ?

[@truno7]

I’m so glad I’m fortunate enough to know about this channel. Thanks for this channel, and thank you to the guests.

[@janetmcbee]

Agree totally. My nieve me, am trying to learn what's up out there here and now.

[@texnewmexneen]

Marriage can work well if the two parties continually work to meet the other person’s needs, selflessly…. that’s the hardest thing for most people, because we are naturally so selfish. We have to know that the other person has our best interest at heart. Most people, when they get hurt, default to, “to hell with you, I’m gonna look out for myself” and it goes down the tubes. It takes so much personal growth to keep choosing what’s best for the marriage and to choose a partner who will do the same.

[@appeljuicesurf]

Great comment.

[@ThatGuy-sc5rx]

Yeah most people lack the emotional maturity and self awareness and sense of duty and commitment to be married.

[@evenbiggeral5089]

In our marriage, we have a habit of always giving to the other person first. It goes for eating good food, going out for activities, taking the last cookie, choosing a movie to watch, spending money..but it has to be reciprocal. Doesn’t work if one person is the taker and the other is the giver.

[@patchesblack7490]

This is the best comment I have seen on this. Absolutely agree!

[@JamieC31882]

I felt like we just watched this lawyer in a 2 hour therapy session. 😂 ....and I'm not complaining!

[@jriguez5150]

This was one of the best men's, relationship, legal and overall healthy discussion podcasts I've ever seen. Thank you Mark, Orion and James!!! 🙏🏼

[@lantana2333]

Loved the video, they seem like good pals. They both balance eachother out, Jame's being an honest and animated guest pouring his heart and soul out to Orion and Orion listens to Jame's every word, taking his ideas and opinions seriously. I wish the best for these two.

[@lalazooms23]

Mark just in the corner going “do y’all even need me for this conversation?”

[@276KittyGirl]

Lmao

[@M7U18G]

😂😂😂

[@SunnyOfficialYT]

I’ve never been married but listening to this trio is a great way to spend my morning. I love how they walk in and naturally waste no time getting into it 😊

[@jonm57]

And could two women discuss this in this way? Absolutely not. And women understand this.

[@SunnyOfficialYT]

@@baublesanddolls Yeah, my comment was made while only several minutes into watching the video 😅 Tis unfortunate. Part 2 will be Orion’s turn to talk 😆

[@jcat1115]

Love is not just an emotion. It’s also a conscious action.

[@maurie7068]

Been using KZbin for years and this is the first time I watch a 3 hour long video. Fantastic video. Thank you, gentlemen

[@demeke773]

I love seeing both of them talk. One person is overtalking a lot but still love the talk

[@carolalove1]

Perhaps I am a weird woman, but I love a direct approach and clear requests from a man. I like the assertive approach. I believe that sets the perfect stage for authentic relationships. The key is in the timing. Great episode, love the open conversation between two of my favorite men on KZbin.

[@cryptoqueen4520]

Same here. And yes, it's all about timing.

[@casey5535]

Me too.

[@sprasle]

I particularly admire how well both of them articulate their thoughts. Talking so eloquently about a complex topic from many different points of view and bouncing off of each other without any hesitation for almost three hours is so impressive to me.

[@purpleduck4209]

@@sprasle it's most certainly the evidence of an individual who's thought things through and is sure of what he says. I admire it as well brother

[@buttermuffin1196]

Would love to hear Orion talk more in this. I think both are jaded in a way but there is a depth of insight. And James seems to be assuming that only men get screwed. I know several women including myself who were left with the kids and barely any child support because the men knew how to use the legal system and we were dependent on them while raising the kids.

[@joashedwards7206]

While I feel sorry for you're situation the simple fact is divorce / family courtz heavily favor yall obviously there are exceptions where the women is screwed over like yours for instance but a majority of men who thru shitty divorces experience your pain I mean if divorce lawyers are backing men you really know the system is screwed with Tender years doctrine 90% of alimony going to women If the kid is not his some places the man's has to stop pay child support (even with DNA proof) False cases of men being put in prison for decades only to find out it was false Now of course situations like yours do exist and there should be justice for that I mean there's a clip where James was on the DOAC podcast and cried when he told his worst case where he was defending a pimp and the victim had no money and had to hire an inexperienced lawyers who he demolished, but he cried saying "just because he has money he can win with me, but she's poor and can't afford afford and she's going to lose because of that, that's not fair to her" so yes both situations exist but they have to talk to the majority to appeal to us because no one has ever done it before

[@dillasoul2228]

This was a team up I was quietly hoping for, you have no idea how invested I am in this one, seeing the personal issues I've dealt with be mapped out in a broader scope than what I've seen it from is exactly what I need right now

[@pfb74]

I can't escape James Sexton. I see him EVERYWHERE right now. Ive watched the psychologist once or twice

[@campaigner8549]

He should be as famous as anyone. He sees the world through an incredibly wise lense

[@professionalpookie]

What was the point of this comment???

[@nitemareman1]

Psychologist seems like a bright guy. Would have loved have heard him speak.

[@jbb-cj1md]

Apparently lawyers can be paid either by the hour or by the word.

[@NaomiSouth]

Literally! He spoke for a minute in the introduction before he could get a word in! Being talked at is so frustrating

[@kellygreenii]

He has his own YT channel: Psychacks

[@shaunaboo961]

@@jbb-cj1md😂

[@lisaariottiart]

Damn my back hurts watching- they need better chairs - recliners even

[@CJBlake-ym6ky]

38 y/o, Married 13 years, 5 children. Very happy, loyal, and committed to my wife. Be sure to marry someone you would also be friends with. Don't lie to yourself. Be selfless.

[@waterbug1135]

Oh, one more requirement...make sure the person will never change. I get a kick out of all the married people saying "make sure you pick..." as if people never change. I'm guessing about 98.6% of divorced people were best friends and each considered themselves selfless and 100% didn't think they were lying to themselves. Most men don't DNA test their kids to confirm they're actually his because he totally trusts the mother.

[@edwinbaabua8413]

​@@waterbug1135 All facts. He speaks as if all divorced people didn't marry their best friends... 😂 Women are hypergamous in nature, you're only good enough until something better comes along.

[@CJBlake-ym6ky]

@waterbug1135 change is inevitable. Trust and communicating honestly is also important.

[@CJBlake-ym6ky]

@edwinbaabua8413 greed, lust, and jealousy are inevitable in life. Perspective, thinking long-term, and maturity are key. Comes down to how itchy someone's mind is as well.

[@andronfugett6416]

Why watch a divorce related vid then???..

[@labyrinthoflies4438]

I'm a woman and I agree with "WHY" would you get married? Male or female. WHY?

[@gol788]

Bro got the Riddler and Harvy Dent glaze session in Gotham 😂😂

[@Lisabug2659]

EXACTLY what I thought from thumbnail.

[@jorgerocha6912]

😂 they even look like

[@adamm2091]

Can someone translate this comment to English?

[@joehernandez6260]

😂 🤣 🤪

[@Lisabug2659]

@@adamm2091 The Riddler visits two face on KZbin

[@lightofthewayshower9350]

I spend 20 years being a stay at home mother to 4 wonderful adults now. It was the most difficult job I have ever done....It was 24 7.....a sacrifice of self . I now own my own business and work 12 hours a day 6 days a week....a picnic comparatively speaking.

[@danielosmon]

You're an inspiration. Hopefully your golden years are just that!

[@maryhumphreys2931]

Thank you agree!

[@bapbap22]

Child rearing feels more difficult because of the emotional investment

[@lightofthewayshower9350]

@@DelFlo what are you even talking about?

[@srinavin]

You did God's work.. god bless

[@georgiesweeney9048]

I watched this in segments. Putting these two together was brilliant. 🙌

[@benvin10365]

I would like to see similar individual and paired interviews with female counterparts of these same professions. It would be interesting to see how women as a divorce attorney and a psychologist cover the same or similar topics as these men do.

[@Anonbyezk]

Oohh agree

[@nicolebarnes1019]

I love James but this turned a bit sexist toward the end.

[@benvin10365]

@@nicolebarnes1019 I am pretty sure that many men may not be aware that some of the things they say are sexist. I'm not sure if it's due to a lack of understanding or a lack of awareness.

[@ashleybostelle7913]

I was really excited about this video but the amount of times James interrupts, it makes it hard to watch. Still gonna watch until the end though!

[@scotconnolly1188]

James is very hard work

[@NewGameSyndrome]

Mark. This one is a 1000% home run. Keep these good ones coming!

[@AmericanMoodSwings]

Two refreshingly honest men- great interview.

[@charlenegehrig8284]

Lust is short term, but love must be earned by years and not months!! Love is long term!!

[@charlenegehrig8284]

Mark, this is gold Thank you for this video!! Keep up the great work!!

[@samb9403]

Good case for arranged marriages.. 😂

[@danielj3010]

Spoiler alert, James Sexton does not know the color of his living room couch.

[@mattdenney8437]

22 years in...Best choice I ever made. She takes care of me and I take care of her. Neither one of us would trust another. Things are different for everyone. I guess I got 22 years lucky. Might be different next year, but I don't think so. Everyone is different. Some work, some dont.

[@susandavis903]

You have the secret sauce…communication, trust, respect. 26 yrs here, not easy but worth the investment. Lust phase is long past, but the depth of love is strong.

[@emilyearl1858]

🎉 you nailed it!! Congrats to the both of you ❤️❤️ it’s admirable

[@kwh6769]

You’re from a different generation. You can’t sympathize with someone dating millennials and gen z. Although to be fair gray divorce is also at an all time high

[@cessiahc]

Love this from start to end. James Sexton is one my fav. speakers. And these two together was perfect

[@binzypoo]

Oh heck. I'm supposed to be going to sleep for work tomorrow and this comes up! I have to watch. 😶‍🌫

[@Silvermoonscorpion]

How'd you sleep?

[@binzypoo]

@@Silvermoonscorpion I watched half that night. Was pretty tired the next day but Arh well lol

[@katherinetreiman9480]

This lawyer lives in a world so different from most of us

[@findinglela]

Yes

[@kensmith2796]

Yeah, it's called New York City. LOL

[@joashedwards7206]

Yes he lives in reality

[@Bumblebeedance15]

This feels like content that is meant for millionaires. Middle class and poor people have more to lose. I can't just divorce my husband. I'd end up living in my car with no insurance. My kids would be so mad at me. So i work on myself so i can stay married. Along the way, i find i feel love towards him again while doing loving things. Its all mental work. And he's human too. How can i expect him to be perfect when i'm not either? I'm committed to making this relationship work. I also own my mistakes and try to do better.

[@casey5535]

Aww I wish you the best in your relationship. Positive thoughts to you. ❤

[@JasonOu-gp2mn]

Yeah fr, it’s just social media warping people’s expectations of what a relationship should look like

[@regenagvocate]

they are clearly only in privileged bubbles

[@MoMWifeLifex2]

Your husband can also divorce you hunny! And then you have no choice! Always have your own, even in a marriage .

[@Bumblebeedance15]

​@MoMWifeLifex2 I'm aware of that. He certainly can divorce me. Having my own means of making a living wouldn't make that any easier. I would certainly survive. I would be starting over. He would too. Denying divorce is tramatic is fooling yourself. It should be avoided period

[@stylemimi]

I have never once had a man say I will take care of you. They always say I dont want a dependent and can't take care of you. I just want to love them with my whole heart rich or poor. They never give me a chance.

[@matsten]

😢

[@prettywhitney17]

Sooo true 🥲👏🏼

[@stephanies9689]

Well, if they're always saying "I can't take care of you," maybe making a more obviously equal effort will get you closer to the mark? Not clinging, but maybe washing the dishes when you go over or something? You could look in the Apostolic Pentecostal community given you're cool with no haircuts, no makeup, a lot of church, and some fairly restrictive modesty requirements. It's more common to see them with a wife staying home than, say, Baptists

[@fluke196c]

This is the only thing I want.

[@notyourbusiness_8]

Take care of yourself and love yourself first

[@ap23z]

Orion is so patient with this guy. Would barely let Orion talk

[@blaqken7726]

He’s a psych. That’s what they do. Listen to

[@angelad.1874]

One's paid to talk. One's paid to listen. Behaviors don't just turn off , I guess 🤷‍♀️

[@adamm2091]

​@@angelad.1874well put

[@cashusclay69able]

Also because he's a lawyer 😂

[@torrithurgood5215]

Oh my gosh, yes!! I was thinking the same thing. Don’t get me wrong I love both these guys, they’re absolutely brilliant….BUT, the divorce lawyer definitely likes to hear himself talk and you can tell he’s not listening to understand and or absorb…he’s listening to respond and Orion can barely finish and you can tell he’s about to explode with his 2 cents! Sheesh!!.

[@mattw3296]

I can't believe nobody else put these two together. Thanks!

[@traceytuggle5004]

They may have some things right but understanding a woman is not one of them. Especially on the topic of housewives...if you think it's such a great gig you stay at home with 3 toddlers, cleaning , cooking, teaching, entertaining, shopping and running the houseand wait for your wife who is out there providing and then let her know how thankful you are and how she is your hero when she gets home.

[@stellaallbright4750]

DONT FORGET...You OWE him sex 4x per week or he's going to go out and bang randos or get a side chick!! 🙄

[@lisamar6386]

I agree. Sexton is entertaining but lacks a lot in maturity.

[@infinitesimotel]

That makes no sense.

[@kingkong8974]

I did all of that between age 6-8. Try harder woman 😊

[@Thunderfirelighting]

Marriage is a agreement to care for eachother for life. It’s not about love but care.

[@moba7984]

Finally, I finished the interview and wanna add a thanks to Orion for being vulnerable and honest about that he's started his channel also cause of being lonely. Thank you for sharing that. Hope the attorney will keep learning about relationships and to maybe listen more than just talking and be open-minded to more optimistic outlook to rel. :).

[@tandelaf]

I totally agree. The layer went on and on on random rants while Orion was very well paced.

[@joashedwards7206]

I mean he is a lawyer it's his job to talk he's trained to debate and call out bs While the Dr orion did his job since he was trains to listen And james aa divorce lawyer is used to the worst of the worst cases I think it's good because u know the world is not rainbows and unicorns

[@jecccc]

WOOOOOW THE DUO I NEVER THOUGHT ID SEE !!!!

[@zaq1337]

SAMEEEE

[@omalleysmith9100]

I've been waiting for the return of Jim Sexton; didn't expect you to pair him up with Orion. This is amazing!!!

[@DanitaSnulligan-q3v]

I admire the manner in which Orion listened and then tolerated the constant interruption by James.

[@chiyuan2293]

The 2 men saved my marriage, thank you. I bought both of your books and thanks to Mark for the platform, best platform ever. Thank you all.

[@waitaminute2015]

"tenth degree blackbelt in emotional warfare" 😂

[@yasintorkman4813]

Patrice ONeal

[@billgnansounou]

Time frame?

[@RicasHomeySpace]

​@@billgnansounou18:20

[@meswimming247]

@@yasintorkman4813p

[@crystalstarrz]

@@billgnansounou 18:33

[@scarlett198]

Most women would prefer to occasionally share a Porsche than have full ownership of a Honda? Stomach turning comment. As a married woman, I want peace, understanding, compassion and the attention of my husband. Give me the Honda and loyalty all day long.

[@kayem9909]

❤

[@nygeek6471]

You’re an anecdote of an anonymous person on the internet. These two are a divorce lawyer and clinical psychologist. I think I know who I trust more in this

[@wintergirl8]

That was a nauseating comment

[@wintergirl8]

​@@nygeek6471neither of whom is an actual woman, you donut

[@purpleduck4209]

You may just be the exempt because you're the exception but it's very real.

[@adeleswecera4787]

I’m the woman who would 💯 rather have the Honda and I do agree with a prenup. Only someone who has never had to experience what it is like to be a stay at home mom would say something so ignorant and minimize it. I have worked full time and while on maternity leave stayed home. It is way harder. Perhaps this is exactly why less women are having kids and being stay at home moms. It is Hard work with a grossly lacking respect for it. Society today priorities money and careers for women over something that has meaning, value and is hard. Implying stay at home moms are lazy is ignorant. The men who get this and appreciate their wives and hopefully get the respect and appreciation they too deserve reciprocated are the winners in my book.

[@rachelborne2471]

Fascinating interview but I'd like to see both of them talk more about connection and how important it is to maintaining a relationship. If you can't connect with someone, or they with you, all the hot the sex or beautiful houses in the world will never be enough. I don't believe healthy relationships are purely transactional. Sex is the fire that keeps things cookin' but connection is the spark of that fire and what keeps relationships from being purely transactional. Our souls are not seeking houses, they're looking for a home.

[@FoB39]

lol all this "soul" talk and romance / Disney bs is why marriage and relationships don't last. People dont look at the practical side of "love" or real long lasting reasons of being together. We are just biochemical machines looking to propagate with the best mate with the best genetics. Love has nothing to do with most peoples reasoning for being with someone.

[@rachelborne2471]

@@FoB39 Hey if transactional works for you, great. I want everything.

[@FoB39]

@@rachelborne2471 every relationship romantic or not is transactional in nature

[@rachelborne2471]

@@FoB39 If you've swallowed Orion's channel hook, line and sinker, sure. Critical thinking, my friend. Cheers.

[@FoB39]

@@rachelborne2471 I don’t even watch Orion , if you think you can beat a females hypergamy good luck and cheers you are very naive about female nature

[@catherinepraus8635]

As a woman and the mother of 5 grown men now I have say I totally agree with these men

[@acd1168]

So you would have had 5 kids without marriage? 🤨

[@SCcowgirl]

@@acd1168 good ? 👍🏼

[@PolishBehemoth]

​@@acd1168 woooosh! You totally missed the point. Shes saying she sees thr bullshit that women do to her sons.

[@acd1168]

@@PolishBehemoth You came up with that how? She didn’t even write what she agrees with. It’s a 3 hour long video

[@jonm57]

@@PolishBehemoth I witnessed women who watch other women and see all the bullshit. Men make excuses and not see the bullshit of women. The question is, why are women evil like this?

[@xavytex]

I’ve been a stay home father for 3 years. It sucks. It’s not difficult. But it’s repetitive and boring. And it never ends. Deposing the stay home wife to prove she does 2 hours a day of effective work is unfair. It’s very hard to stay motivated when there is no real goal and reward. It really, really sucks compared to going to work 8 hour a day doing tangible things. That’s where the difficulty of being a stay home parent lays. Hours of choir per day is the wrong metric.

[@vegito179]

Genuine question- does your wife put u down or give u a hard time bcz of it?

[@MarkMackenzievortism]

Guess who gets the strapon.

[@proudmummy]

It’s a shame that is sucks because there’s so much you’re creating by caring for your children. Its the most difficult things, you have to manage much more like emotions, effective communicating, teaching etc. your children would so thank full to you for it.

[@Bat-Georgi]

>> compared to going to work 8 hour a day doing tangible things That very well may be... but how many people are doing "tangible" work? Most office jobs are just as boring and repetitive. It's mostly just shuffling around data or....god help me...customer service. Now if you're the type of guy who used to work on the oil rigs or is in one of the trades where you work with your hands, then that's a different story.

[@kellybarker9764]

I love watching these conversations. It is very reassuring to me that I have cottoned on to most of the tips and tricks mentioned here and as a result have a very happy and successful marriage/family life. They really do hit the nail on the head with things, even though at times, I want to yell at them and put the missing female point in so they can fine tune their points a little more haha. I really hope the two of you do more of these interviews, it's so so needed right now! Thank you both, so much, for transmuting the misfortune of others and turning it into positive messages for others.

[@betedoma2009]

Recently obsessed with both of them!!! Such an iconic collaboration. Thank you❤

[@maryhumphreys2931]

My god please let Orion talk!

[@ninofromcanada4296]

He’s Talking are YOU LISTENING 🤣

[@marybethfalla4209]

Sexton is a sexist.

[@DonnaJ-s1y]

Preferred their individual interviews more. Orion had multiple appearances on SWU which are all fantastic. It was frustrating at times when James would interrupt and Orion was unable to complete his thoughts on a topic. James is admittedly a talker and Orion is great at listening.

[@adriannaaaa95]

I love these two so much! I could literally listened to them all day… The lawyer is hilarious!!! 😂

[@sobercoachdubai]

The two guys who see the car crash unfold day in day out, slowly in front of them. 😮

[@peterroy6801]

Yup stare at car crashes all day every day. And you will believe that the whole world and everyone in it is a car crash. These two are so warped and fugged up in their own personal lives.

[@davidparker9676]

And profit from it greatly.

[@Kobe-jz2zz]

​@@davidparker9676they're needed though

[@jorel6745]

@@davidparker9676 Beat me to it.

[@charthers8903]

As said - don’t let that fool you, the money is great and that’s why they get up in the morning and go for it every day

[@christinedeferrari7630]

I freakin LOVED this!!!! I just wish James didn’t cut Orion off overtime he spoke! But great interview !

[@jenniferthompson5060]

Everytime he interrupted him and went off on a diatribe gave me anxiety.

[@emmett3067]

I have made only a few bad decisions in my life. Getting married was the single worst decision I've ever made.

[@binzypoo]

bummer

[@Etrielle]

Was it marriage itself that isn't for you, or was the person you chose to marry the wrong choice?

[@emmett3067]

​@@Etrielle More just that the person I married decided being a mother was more important than being a wife. Bait and switch in terms of sex. I make a lot of money, and would have a far more enjoyable life being single than being in a sexless and loveless marriage. Divorce would be financial suicide at this point so i'm stuck in a golden cage where heads i lose, tails I lose - she knows it, I know it. She pretends to love me, I pretend to love her. It's like a comedy without the laugh track.

[@aaronross6086]

Sorry man , kinda in same boat and it is what it is​@emmett3067

[@GruntHumor]

Lol a tale old as time. Once the kids pop out, you're at the bottom of the totem poll. As for sex....that's even further down the line. Except the yoga instructor or any random guy, they get moved ahead 😂. Stay single folls

[@olgabusby]

You sound like you have been hurt..you needed this man to listen to you today

[@specter116]

I’ve been saying this for a long time Divorce laws need to be changed.

[@hugevagiine]

They will when we stop playing the game

[@hughguys1183]

never gonna happen - the "perpetual victims" wont allow it

[@subekennedy9554]

Yes it needs to be harder to get married and a little easier to get divorced

[@KimWallis-l9w]

To what?

[@Droidman1231]

Changed in what way?

[@janetlambe5521]

This one's going to go viral. Great idea and great conversation!! Although when James interrupts and talks over Orion it's a little annoying

[@joyce9523]

Agree

[@hyperbolic-time-chamber-strand]

Lawyers in a nutshell.

[@joyce9523]

@@baublesanddolls dam I know right

[@joyce9523]

@@hyperbolic-time-chamber-strand 🥴

[@ninofromcanada4296]

2 Very Intelligent Strong Funny Kind Men Here SHARING THEIR LIFES WORK THATS ALLLL I SEE HERE 📣👏🏼

[@samanthaspeaks4206]

That lawyer was needing to speak to a therapist. This was very interesting

[@ninofromcanada4296]

They Are Sharing Their Experiences

[@AM-wq2cz]

It was definitely a therapy session, especially the 2nd half

[@MatthewFinchest]

In this episode: two guys fail to understand why women don't want to be housewives after spending 2 hours discussing the "default pre-nup."