A Talk On Romantic Relationships-Orion Taraban

Soft White Underbelly interview and portrait of Orion Taraban, a psychologist in the Bay Area.
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[@anniefitzgerald499]

Hi there , I m almost 70 and FULLY agree with Orian's theories. I think they are factual and honest and are coming from a deeply loving source rooted in experience and truth. I agree with you Mark when you say he is The Darwin of the future re relationships, You are a LOVING VISIONARY SURGEON of minds and will be recognised for your WISDOM and INSIGHT in the near future. I WISH YOU THE VERY BEST for the courageous work you are bringing to humanity. You are truly GIFTED and i sincerely THANK YOU and Mark for the amazing work you both do. BLESSINGS and JOY in ABUNDANCE. 🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@TeamAwesomeDad]

Bullshit

[@NathanSmutz]

This reminds me of Peterson's (lobster) stuff about your hormones and neurotransmitters tracking your place in the hierarchy.

[@msmendes214]

Not Mark pinning this one. 😬😬😬

[@AnaFernandez-jp5uh]

Darwin! Not even close.

[@pastabatman]

Annie has some screws loose in her head.

[@PostMortemor]

I'm 37 and one thing I understood in life is that people just want magic, in relationships, in products, in spirituality, politics, marketing and so on. If you tell them the truth you lose them. You have to be a magician 🎩

[@batchimegdamdindorj8557]

Well I must be in the minority because I couldn’t care less about magic no more approaching 34 soon been out of the dating game for a while now I just want peace and contentment in everything in life. I’m so over the excitement the elusive attraction and the fucking game.

[@donnahickman9350]

Me too.

[@reneelibby4885]

so many people, yes. especially young people.

[@SuperReznative]

Jesus and back to committment to God and each other

[@Pabloandresariza]

No.

[@tiathomas1098]

I just wanna say cheating is traumatic, and cheating in marriage is traumatic and soul crushing. So many people dont want to admit how bad it really messes with you, instead they dont take the time to heal, self reflect, and heal that damage. Instead, they run to the next person available

[@carmenkamberos1156]

That’s right, cheating, betrayal of trust is very traumatic, painful, hurtful. Going into another relationship before healing is called rebound. It does damage to the other person who is being used as a therapist; very selfish indeed.

[@elamanecera]

so cheat on them first. destroy the other person first. 💯

[@hiabdeef6414]

Only women do this. Never met a man who got cheated on and rushed into another relationship lol

[@IndigoWisdom1]

I'm a woman and I absolutely support and love his work. I'm pro-relationships and find Orion's work and advice quite sobering and empowering. 👍🏽

[@EsteBahia]

You might want to look into Dr. Shawn T. Smith's work.

[@IndigoWisdom1]

@@cyberovaries You can't pimp me psychologically. I can appreciate someone's perspective without taking it on. Why? Because I form my Own ideas and conclusions and don't need to watch Any video telling me Anything to be able to THINK ON MY OWN.

[@cyberovaries]

@@IndigoWisdom1 Agree to disagree, sister. Every human on this planet can and has been brainwashed in one way or another. I just did my part and informed you. You exercise your free will however you want to. Have a good day!

[@bitterroots7317]

​@@cyberovariesjust curious, what is your evidence or source for free will existing? Scientific research is providing a lot of data showing otherwise.

[@Stanthemilkman]

​@IndigoWisdom1 u just said u like this guys ideas.

[@lisaproustresearch]

This man is so full of knowledge !! Sadly, it's not very "romantic" but quite realistic --- what would you rather hear? The truth or a fairy tale?

[@reneelibby4885]

truth will set you free

[@SuperReznative]

​@@reneelibby4885Jesus Truth will set you Free. Read the gospel of John

[@Gecmajster123456]

Americans want fairytales, just look at Wrestling, transitioning kids these days, some of those are living in some kind of fantasy world..

[@taurusthebull76]

Most people are very simple & don't ask why or attempt to understand things beyond the surface.

[@SteveJones379]

@lisaproustresearch My mother told my father..."just lie to me." Apparently she prefers delusion and fairytale. Bizarre. Her and I don't speak.

[@godstomper]

The problem with relationships now is that there are too many distractions and too many unrealistic expectations

[@mauiskater]

Amen to that and we live too long. Haha. We died at age 50 before so you didn’t have to live together as long. 😊

[@diletante6800]

Yes, and I've met lots of married folks in their 80'', and 90's

[@arizona71189]

1 fight and 1 time seeing an ugly side someone is gone..easy to give up

[@godstomper]

@@diletante6800 I'm talking about this current generation under 50

[@diletante6800]

@@godstomper absolutely

[@roland1912]

For any guys who take umbrage with what Orion is saying... He's not wrong! Young men ARE essentially useless until they decide to put forth effort to get themselves educated, learn some skills, and build a financial foundation to support themselves. You need to have this in place regardless if you want to have a successful relationship or not. These are the first steps required for not only supporting yourself, but for building character and self respect.

[@shameronstar7220]

Sounds simple enough but is it though?

[@Elizabeth_Parsons_327]

THIS!!!!

[@timmellis5038]

I know lots and lots and lots of good looking young guys who have nothing and all women go crazy for them. I'm surprised you haven't noticed that. Go to a nightclub with a young good looking guy, your logic will change- fast.

[@KD400_]

​@@Elizabeth_Parsons_327weird comment u wrote about regretting having kids. How can u say that. I don't understand

[@firehorse9996]

@@timmellis5038 Too bad life isn't a nightclub LOL... You will see these guys lose their value much faster than a woman ever will when they're 35 and still struggling to make sense out of life, set a career path, put down their dumb phones long enough to have a real conversation... We women enjoy having sex with these guys but it's impossible to build a stable life with them. Not even worth trying.

[@12thjewel]

43 year old woman here, been following Orion a year. I've never been married and through listening to Orion I now have a good idea why. I have grown into a better woman / partner by observing and trying his strategies / suggestions. I love how he breaks down facts!

[@southphillylilly]

Everybody saying, "I'm so over the games. I'm fine the way I am. "If you were truly happy and content with your own life and what it is that makes you who you are, you wouldn't be bitter about shouting, ""I'm over the games." It's quite obvious, that you can't hold animosity for an entire gender or the past and still be content and happy. I was married once and I've been engaged twice, all three times those men cheated on me. I cooked, I kept a nice house, I gave them what they wanted and took what I wanted in the bedroom, I embraced their families, I had my own money and I'm smart and come from a good family. Still, these men cheated I just had to come to understand that what's happening in the world of relationships today isn't for me. I don't blame men, and I don't think it's OK to blame women. There is a lack of loyalty that permeates our culture and we're so amped up over constant stimulation with our phones and technology , that peace doesn't really feel like peace but instead, it feels like boredom to many of us. Everybody wants more, and when I figured out, that the majority of men aren't looking for what I am looking for and can't give me what I can give them, that was freedom So, I filled my life with beautiful things. I garden and I love my dog and two cats. I live on the beach and I swim every day. I bake, and I have a handful of really good friends and the truth is, I wouldn't dare to ask for more or risk, all that I love and hold dear for a relationship that if I'm going by past experiences, has 100% chance of failing due to deception. Even with all that being said, I'm not completely closed off. If it happens again, you can bet that I'll go into it with caution until I'm shown that one is different from all of the others. But I refuse to go on an app, and I don't sit in bars. I simply love my little life and that's worth its weight in gold.

[@DaisyRenee713]

Tooooo long

[@Danid2023]

Wow, this is beautiful. Thank you for sharing your experience/take. I haven’t even begun dating. I am extremely lonely, about to be 25 and a virgin still. I feel very embarrassed and inexperienced. But I would take this over feelings of being used, being disrespected, or being lied to/abandoned. Pretty much in a word, used sums it up. I don’t want anyone to use me, like how we use our phones or use our cars. That’s all people do. We use things. We use people to get what we want. That’s what society is.

[@louis-borrego]

Yes but the problem is you chose these men. It was your choice to stay, be with and grow a relationship with these men. You tolerated certain behavior again and again. It’s not about not being closed off it’s about understanding how things work and taking responsibility for it

[@sheepnomore8063]

You deserve a lot of respect for holding true to your values. Don't be embarrassed for being "inexperienced" in that department!@@Danid2023

[@Neresdipity]

​​@@louis-borregoShe didn't choose to be cheated on. Cheating is a choice. Maybe reserve your judgement for the person who not only lies to someone and betrays them but also is potentially putting them at physical risk if they catch somethingwhen theyre cheating, as opposed to the person who isn't a psychic - it's not like she looked into a crystal ball and knew these guys would cheat. Finally, maybe start thinking for yourself- the 'choose better' nonsense has been deconstructed for what it really is: a simplistic phrase thrown out by simple minded people who seem to think that 'choosing' a partner is like buying a gallon of milk. You know that there are tons of people- men and women alike - who get unalived by partners they 'chose', right? Would you blame those people for their 'choices'? Life is unfair and full of crummy people who won't hesitate to turn their back on someone, even someone who has been great to them. Stop listening to the red pill content and grow up already.

[@Ruby_nba]

Orion is very deeply versed in his field of psychology...I wish we can have him talk in this channel once every week. I could never get enough of his teachings❤

[@marguskiis7711]

Yeah, he is cultivating misogyny, you like?

[@pinkaholic09]

I couldn't agree more. He's not someone getting paid to tell them what they want to hear. LOL. That's NOT helping the person. An example would be an obese man goes into the doctor for help, and the doctor says "you're not that fat."

[@MrBrown2.7]

Finally people having respect for the work this clinician has produced. Thank you all for being respectful.

[@jackycheng2079]

I'm 42 male, never married, not depressed or anything, just wanted to say that I really appreciate the way he was able to articulate complex issues in very simple, concise and understandable language; I tend to agree with most of what he said. Will definitely subscribe his channel.

[@Neresdipity]

Confirmation bias

[@markjharvey]

It’s called “learning”

[@sweeper240]

There is no functional reason and no potential value anyone can bring to the table, that you can't supply better and more efficiently on your own. The one thing you'll want to consider deeply is raising a child of your own. It's an irreplaceable experience.

[@Minnesota_Central]

​@@sweeper240absolutely

[@YouGotTheL]

​@@sweeper240It's only a pain

[@bugsquashed5509]

This might sound bad but I’ll be truthful. I was a damaged/traumatized young lady but attractive and had many “house” skills (cooking, cleaning, homemaking, child care, etc) and when my husband met me as a young man, I found out many years later, that he told himself that he could save me. It was a white knight type of thing, for him, to come in and save this woman…. And he did. He helped me through my family trauma, my rape trauma, all of it. Now I’m his wife, mother of his children, and we’ve been together 18 years and will be together until one of us passes. The strategy of saving the bird with a broken wing worked out for him and I 🙏

[@matthewnorris203]

“The lack of courage can come from a lack of hope.”. Thank you for saying that. I’ve been dealing with Hope issues. Most of my life. The times when I’m able to take a lot of courage and risk is when I find something clear to live for or a goal actually want.

[@tacob2382]

I just want to say that as a women I do love listening to you, it's gives me a look from a different perspective, and I hear you say a lot of things my husband does, and although it's been 20 years in our relationship, I am still learning every day how to make it better.

[@11JFK]

Quite possibly the best 65 minutes I’ve ever committed to KZbin. The last 10 minutes provided so many truths, so many memorable quotes, the ability to let go in love is to stop clinging and to do what so many of us struggle to do, “relax”, is the first step. “Run the tape, learn some lessons, iterate!” Thank you both.

[@jamesthomas6681]

Dr. Taraban has a gift of making intellectually deep topics palatable for the general public. This is a very rare combination of qualities; intellectualism, empathy, and communication skills. I personally don't think Dr. Taraban is sharing or discovering anything new; as he shared, the topics he discusses have been discussed by philosophers, psychologists, and sociologists since the 18th century... for example, his discussion about people not knowing what contributes to their conscious interpretation of a thing is discussed at length by Carl Jung's views on the subconscious.... Dr. Taraban's contribution is combining them in a way that benefits the modern man and woman. bravo. Fantastic work from you all

[@liabw05]

Really?! I found him impossible to follow. But this may be because I’m reading comments as I’m listening 😂. He just feels sooo heady

[@sheri023]

@@liabw05 yeah, really, in his head. I don't need to hear this stuff, i've lived it already.

[@jamesthomas6681]

@@liabw05 yeah this is the difference between the scholar and the explorer. We need both though. To discover where no one has gone before but to also understand where we’ve gone. He’s more on explaining why we feel what we feel which not many people are aware of or even think about

[@carissabooyse8908]

woman here. loved both the previous videos. People need to start differentiating between games and "toxic" games. thanks for doing another video with Mark!

[@Observatuer033]

he's got a realistic view for a sociopathic world in which we live

[@Echo-o-o]

Bingo.

[@thomasalden3524]

You cannot reasonably talk someone out of something that they have not reasonably talked themselves into.

[@debraharmon1244]

Well l

[@gol788]

Or hes a sociopath feeding into the sociopathic world

[@Observatuer033]

@@gol788yep, a flourishing one

[@RedLeg217]

Calling him the "Darwin of our time" is way too much of a compliment. These insights and theories he presents have been around for a VERY long time. His direct conversation style brings an immediate inviting and approachable sense to complex notions of the common sense we constantly overlook because we nearly never introspect our motivations. I do not like how he assumes that we never rely on deep introspection, but I think he will bring more of use to think deeper about our drives so that we have more informed behavior.

[@FdHer2TheSharks]

These are absolutely amazing talks. He’s amazing. I’m getting married this September and everytime I listen I find myself jotting down some notes I want to say for my vows. LEGEND. Keep him coming back Mark!!!!

[@56Spookdog]

I’m in my late 60s I’m glad I didn’t over complicate life with all this stuff. I’ve had my heart breaks but going through any type of grief you notice people are living life and at that point what ever you’re going through you realize life goes on and so will you.

[@tizodd6]

Ignorance is bliss.

[@marguskiis7711]

​@@tizodd6 whine on

[@tizodd6]

@@marguskiis7711 Lol?

[@CircumlunarFeasibility]

@@marguskiis7711yes i suppose its better in countries like yours where poverty makes women desperate and willing to marry you no matter what?

[@marguskiis7711]

​@@CircumlunarFeasibility in Estonia the tradition of working women is old and women are not desperate to marry due their povertry. That not the case. Women are pretty independent in Estonia bc we have experienced wars, Soviet repressions when men were taken away and women had to work themselves a lot.

[@mariaboux9084]

As a women I feel so inspired and intrigued from what his talks. It gets better every time. It's like I always knew this deep but didn't have the words to say it.please continue your spreading, can't wait to read your book

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

What he talks about predates religion. Hence the triggering and pushback.

[@Bluesmoke4200]

I am a woman and I think he is a little too critical of women and lenient towards men but he is clearly very intelligent and thoughtful and has said things that really make me think. Regardless of how I feel about what he says I always find his videos interesting and thought provoking.

[@softlifesarah]

hes king of the incels. gross

[@pinkaholic09]

I'm a woman and have always preferred male friendships to friendships with women. What I've most observed about women is they like having things 'sugar coated' and have a difficult time with the cold, hard truth. Men are more 'what you see is what you get, strait forward.They don't beat around the bush.

[@twenty4seven_]

Orion says things people don't want, but need to hear. It's a reality we live in, if we like it or not.

[@aylaxypt]

I'm going to start following him. I'm a 32yr old woman, and everything he's saying is just intelligent and true. I feel like if this offends you, that's a you problem.

[@sirkyoj1]

I agree. Wish I had these insights a long time ago.

[@matten_zero]

I'm curious, many people last video were super negative. Why do you think it changed so much this time around. A comment like yours was so rare in the last vid. Curious to hear your thoughts on this

[@booshank2327]

Go be pretend to be happy in your cold and cynical relationships. Yay.

[@fatimasg1]

I really enjoy this guy, he is a realest. I don’t need my information to be sugarcoated, especially when dealing with men in relationships. I’m a woman, I have no idea what a man is thinking or how they feel about certain things, BUT I WANT TO KNOW LOL, in the simplest, most cut and dry manner possible.

[@Alexxx492]

You should check out the videos on this channel titled “getting man you want” It explains men completely

[@reneelibby4885]

I would also like a man NOT to assume that he knows what all women think.

[@fatimasg1]

@@Alexxx492 Thank you, I am definitely going to check that out.

[@Alexxx492]

@@reneelibby4885 in all of his videos, he says there are variants of the rule

[@MrBrown2.7]

@@reneelibby4885 lol. He doesn't assume what all women think. This is a defense strategy many women have away from the truth about their behavioral patterns.

[@zu0756]

This guy truely changed my life! He touches upon so many aspects of life.. how to succeed, deal with people, life and emotions and live a good life! Please try to remove your prejudices and just listen critically to what he is SAYING, not how you interpret it nor how it makes you feel Wish you all the best

[@CowgirlKim]

59 yo woman, 3 failed marriages, last one extremely abusive from addiction which ended fatally and leaving me alone with cptsd. I’ve been out of the dating scene for well over 30 years and from what I have seen, he speaks unfortunate truths. I believe our society has moved away from traditional marital norms. Games or not, with what he describes, convinces me to withdraw and embrace the Celtic view of hagitude! ✌️out!

[@southphillylilly]

It's probably not fair to put your CPTSD on one marriage. I'm sure, you felt to get something as a child, that led to three failed marriages. I guess you have CPTSD from a lifetime.

[@reneelibby4885]

I'm very curious- what isn the Celtic view of hagitude?

[@CowgirlKim]

@@southphillylilly oh no, not hanging it all on one marriage, however it was for 25 years. How the hell do you think I walked that journey? From childhood and a short military service. I am a product of addiction, placed in parental roles at 6yo, on & on & on. Never an addict myself but caught in a subconscious role of rescue and saving, enabling. I could tell a good tale on this channel but poor Mark would be monetized! 🤣

[@CowgirlKim]

@@reneelibby4885 👋 Embracing and learning to be at peace with being alone. I am blessed with 40+ acres in Colorado and a small herd of dairy goats. My state of hagitude is loving my land, my animals, my gardens, my views, rocks, trees, ect. Being. There are KZbin videos on the subject, believe it or not 🤣 enjoy!

[@catherinepraus8635]

@@southphillylillyI know I did

[@waakdfms2576]

I applaud Orion's obvious hard work thinking through the insane confusion around relationships. Kudos to him for taking on the difficult stuff, trying to digest it, and attempting to regurgitate it for all of us to ponder. It's so incredibly hard to be a human being….we are all so complex and deserve compassion wherever we are at. Be gentle with yourselves everyone…thank you, Mark, for all you do.

[@emgee691]

I think you've nailed all of this pretty darn well! What we call our EMOTIONS are very very PRIMAL. which is why they are so important. Feeling was our very first basic recognition of SELF. It begins while we're still in the womb. Before we could think or speak or imagine or do or be anything, we began to FEEL. Where do we actually feel? In our gut, around our abdomen. In the exact place was our umbilical cord in the womb. Primal. Survival. Our emotions are like a mixture of radar and sonar, protector, guide and advisor. All in one. Survive and thrive. So powerful. Now think about what might happen to us within ourselves, in our lives, when our abilities, our capacities to FEEL, get degraded and numbed...

[@fredflintstone8048]

I enjoy Orion's channel. I like what Orion said about friends finding it easier to console you when you're down than to be happy for you, supportive of you when you are a success. My father was that way. His children and other relatives who did well, who made a success of themselves were subject to his wrath due to his jealousy. The ones that were struggling, the hopeless ones that always needed help he was most comfortable with and he surrounded himself with them. The truest friend will be happy for you for your successes and not be jealous or resentful secretly hoping you will fail and have it taken away from you but that also requires that person to have a quality that rises above the average human. I also see this in people who laugh when someone does something stupid and gets hurt or has something else bad happen to them due to an event. The average person doesn't seem to like it when they perceive someone else as doing better than they are.

[@justmyopinion9883]

Well said. Thank you. I’ve had friends who liked me when I was down, but were jealous when I was doing well. It’s painful when that happens.

[@wesryan930]

Hey that's my dad hates seeing his kids make any sort of progress in life

[@Johnwick-07]

Orion is speaking honestly and factually because he genuinely wants to help people. People that are hateful towards the information that he’s sharing are still dealing with pain in their life. It’s very difficult to come out of the lies that we’re told to us and some people just need time to help. Thank for offering help to the people that are suffering!

[@brendaleevillarreal9851]

i started following Orion Taraban after the last interview SWU did with him. I watch him daily now. I totally agree with Dr. O,

[@AnaFernandez-jp5uh]

I'm glad Orion is helpful to you. I have a problem with him interrupting Mark in the middle of his questions. Mark held his own and asked him to wait until he was finished asking his questions. I neve interupt a client. It's important to let them know you are listening to them.

[@Nando_lifts2021]

Inturrupting can also mean you are exicted to add to the conversation. Notice he didn't freak out when told , he appologized@@AnaFernandez-jp5uh

[@carolinazepeda6753]

Mark, thank you for having Orion speak on your channel again. The moment I heard you speak “struggling to let go”, I could feel the ball in my throat tense and my eyes water. Orions explanation was the most heart breaking and soothing response I needed to help me let go.

[@cvuadvisorsinc.3548]

Hi Mark! I love Orion's method and insight. As a woman who has spent many years on the planet and most of my adult years have been spent in observation rather than engaging in intimate relationships. My worth and my confidence has allowed me freedom to grow into an understanding of who I truly am and how I want to love and be loved. Orion has an incredible honesty that many people may not comprehend. I believe too many men and women would rather live in denial and rapid gratification. Suffering comes from insecurity and moving too quickly and finding flaws later for fear that there is something to be lost. I love having time and discernment to observe whether a man is worthy of me and me of him. Once women allow more of this, there will be less emphasis on what has driven the most recent decade of superficial distractions. Seduction is in the mind and beauty is in the self awareness of femininity and sensuality. simple facts. anyone that does not agree with Orion is not deeply aware of themselves

[@alexkamchugov2880]

As a pharmaceutical drug rep who has been working in major depressive disorder field for over 6 years, & being able to speak to many psychiatrists on a personal level about depression.... - I have nothing but outmost gratitude & appreciation for the work that Orion is doing. In my subjective opinion - his advice is SO spot-on & his delivery cadence & tonality - absolutely wonderful. Definitely feel the empathy he has for his patients. There's a saying "Be the kind of adult - you needed as a friend when You were a teenager"... - to me, - he fits this definition perfectly. With Gratitude....

[@TeamAwesomeDad]

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[@alexkamchugov2880]

​@@TeamAwesomeDadAbsolutely not

[@TeamAwesomeDad]

​@@alexkamchugov2880 Paid comment

[@shiningstar5919]

Well, I'm a 56 year old woman, and I totally resonate with this man. I am about half way in, and this one is much more gentle, as I see it, because it feels like he needs to help those angered by this greater innerstanding of the dance between men and women. The last one was bang on as I see it. He is giving the simple truth on where consciousness stands in today's dating life. There's no question he knows what he's talking about, with the experience he has of his clients, which I'm sure, is many. It's just not easy to see that this is where things are at in our world, between men and women. Our world is in a sad and sorry state. It's time to be the love we wish to be in the world, because we are love, each and everyone of us. Cheers

[@dyingdoesnthurt1967]

Agree

[@marshallmazzarelli8797]

THAT WAS WELL SAID LIL MAMMA!!!!!

[@donnahickman9350]

💯

[@SuperReznative]

Know Jesus Christ everyone

[@magzlomeli6110]

🥂

[@VaselaBella]

He is so incredibly well spoken and brilliant. I absolutely love his interviews!!!

[@marinalauren4734]

I really appreciated the comment about understanding and valuing everyones thoughts and justifying both sides. It's refreshing that although i don't agree with all of his opinions, he doesn't state everything as a fact without question and doesn't shove ideas down your throat. He makes you think and want to understand where his ideas on both side of the argument is coming from. He isn't abrasive and doesn't tell you you're stupid for thinking something. He comes across in an inquisitive way that I can appreciate. If more people could have political conversations this way where it doesn't put the other person on defense, the world would be better off.

[@jessicagrace2817]

I'll be honest in my twenties and thirties I wouldn't want to listen to Orion, but as I age and gain wisdom, I see the valuable truths. Thank you.

[@Infamouzc5]

This man is brilliant, he truly understands the meaning of red pill and how to have a healthy relationship.

[@eva-nr2bs]

I love and support Orion Taraban help, information and education!!!

[@mauiskater]

They are not a therapist…they are a drug dealer. Mind blown 🤯 I feel just like this man. Great insight. I think that those that find this man upsetting aren’t ready to let go of old belief systems. It’s not easy to do these things. Great interview

[@CMT705]

That comment changed everything for me on how I now view him. This video was much different than the other two.

[@Bitsurf24]

Orion intellectualises and surgically breaks down relationships in a way that no other has. Beautiful work!

[@bobbrian1641]

Genius man. I could listen to him talk all day.

[@davidrosenfeld5525]

So true!😅

[@dantwomey]

That's the interesting compromise. How to carefully tell people the truth without upsetting them.

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

At least not too much. I've been studying this stuff over three decades and have similar conclusions but he is very concise and effective in communicating. I'm just a Cro Magnon😂

[@jordanbaker79]

I really enjoy Orion’s views and how he frames things. Very interesting and relatable. Refreshingly honest. I hope you keep doing these interviews with him. 💫

[@melissafernandez582]

I am a single 29 year old woman and I really really enjoy and recommend Dr. Orion’s channel ! It’s helped me a lot in my own dating life and continues to be a resource I go to

[@Thomas-qi9ix]

Hey I'm happy to hear this perspective from a woman who is familiar with Dr Taraban's work. I'm very curious about your feedback on his 3 part series on how any woman can get the man she desires based on 3 things. From a man's perspective, I could NOT have expressed it better. I wonder if women could digest or absorb it. Thoughts?

[@Alexxx492]

@@Thomas-qi9ix I carefully watched the videos on his channel and examined them closely. I followed his advice as part of a social experiment and to attract the man I desired. I've found that his advice works remarkably well with most men. However, those who are highly intelligent and skilled in profiling don't respond to it as strongly. Regrettably, I'm drawn to the latter type 😅

[@the_eerie_faerie_tales]

​@@Thomas-qi9ixmade sense to me!

[@franziskani]

To quote this guy (from memory): I am so good in assessing people that I can chose a woman that does not even speak English. I have my friends to talk to, I do not need her for that. (He also says in that context that he selects for kindness, level temperament etc.. Intelligence and education was not among the traints - obviously. Which is a glorified version of: She has to by much younger than me, look good and I only want to fuck her (and maybe she can do things for me for free). Which is his advice for women if they are interested in a guy (in another video) To prove him how they make his life easier. And of course to f**k him real good (prefereably giving him the impression that she has not done those things with any other men).

[@sunnybadgr5073]

​@@Alexxx492I'm curious, which part didn't work? What turned off the intelligent guys?

[@ttclac]

His voice is so soothing and the message is so insightful! What an awesome man!

[@Madeline-zz6xj]

So glad you did another interview with him. He's very insightful.

[@ItsBrier]

I was surprised to hear of the backlash received on Orion Tarabans previous interviews. I found him highly insightful and agreed with the not-so-pretty dynamics between a man and womans relationship. I've been in a relationship with my husband for over 13 years and found Orions theories to be accurate, especially since my partner and I got together when I was 21, him 27. Although the sexual marketplace value theory seems unemotional and black-and-white, it does hold some significance in how we move about our romantic relationships. The topic of love is always interconnected in relationships (it goes without saying) but that wasn't what Orion was trying touching on, at least to my understanding. I appreciated this point of view and I am now a fellow subscriber of Psych Hacks because of it. Thanks for touching on this Mark and Orion, well done.

[@adamgonzalez9013]

He knows what he’s talking about, people just don’t like the truth

[@thematriarchy2075]

Mmm, could you elaborate, please?

[@SinaLaJuanaLewis]

💯

[@dirtyace1668]

I think you're very much on point. More and more people do not like honesty and truth, despite what they may say. And they will like it even less the more it hits them personally. Also, the other part is people living too much of their life in social media which is simply one big fantasy world that reinforces itself over and over again. It molds people's perception of reality into something that it really isn't and allows delusion to thrive.

[@kengaroo5170]

Men and women are different. Living together starts out with a lot of sex. Then you see the act drop and the person who you are really with. Sex and knowing someone are very different. It's a drug.

[@UnveilingTheEssenceOfWisdom]

​@cherrygirl64 as a psychology student. He is speaking truths based on large-scale observations and data sets. No, not everyone will fall within the largest margin of a bell curve. Science speaks to the greatest number of people, the majority or plurality of any group.

[@dawncopley5671]

Thank Gd for Orion as he answers the questions I’ve asked so many men, but have never gotten an answer! Hallelujah! Seems to be honest as possible and even if uncomfortable, as opening any Pandora’s box can be, it is to me, at least, “ Oh thank you for communicating the male brain’s inner workings! I finally, after so many years, am receiving answers to a plethora of questions that men either didn’t want to explain or possibly could not explain? Kudos to you! Very grateful! 🌅

[@patriciasiarra1032]

‘You just have to be real careful with your thoughts’ 💯🙌 can’t wait for your next talk ! Brilliant mind 👏

[@taurusthebull76]

Taraban articulates his views so eloquently. His "opening the hood" perspective on relationships is quite interesting & provides knowledge as to better understand why we do the things we do on a subconscious level.

[@ciaputter7462]

“Miserable discharging of our obligation.” There it is. Finally my divorce makes sense. I thought we’d dig deep and rise together. I begged him to work when deployed. I left the US knowing I was never going to come back the same. I became so hard emotionally and killed the me that he knew. I’m not the same person. I can never be that woman again.

[@kathrynharmerfox1865]

love the practical, observational, scientific bent of this man's viewpoint.

[@cw3504]

Part of the problem is we are all programmed to expect some kind of perfect love story from all the movies and books about it. Girls in my experience are not taught to be independent and self reliant people first. I think the road to happiness is to be able to take care of yourself and once you are happy and capable doing so if you include someone else in that life you will still have an escape route. So many stay because they feel a NEED and that is not LOVE. You have to want to be with each other and work on enjoying time spent together everyday. It is not easy.

[@reneelibby4885]

absolutely.

[@Yes-Yes1]

I’m not surprised people are upset with his content, what he says reflects reality and many people’s reality is not ideal.

[@marchanson711]

Orion is so humble, and his demeanor, voice tone and pitch, and sincere eyes put a soothing balm on the content that he produces. The content that you discussed today and on the previous Orion episodes are grounded in truth, and the truth will always initially induce cognitive dissonance and emotional responses deemed negative. It takes time to process the emotions when we become aware of truth, and those viewers who reacted with extreme vehemence will come around days or weeks later as they realize the wisdom that was given is gospel truth. What makes Orion's content work for the greater good is his delivery method, comportment, demeanor, authenticity, and aademic competency. On another note, Orion's current haircut and clean shaven face somehow adds to his professionalism. Take note of this; nota bene. Peace.

[@franziskani]

That man is certainly NOT humble. Put's his NLP training to good use. Likely good in manipulating people. He noticed the backlash to the last interview on THIS channel, so he came back to tone it down. Those books are not going to sell themselves !

[@dumfriesspearhead7398]

​@@franziskaniSpot on.

[@josie3974]

Yes, I noticed his professional appearance. I respect his respect for the audience.

[@jcsrst]

People generally don't want to hear the truth. They like how they see things. They think they're right and don't like their beliefs challenged.

[@richjames7948]

Nice story, thanks for that 👍

[@andreavanda5402]

100% correct and that's the main issue in my opinion.

[@frakismaximus3052]

Ego. No one likes to be confused... but when the new info is no longer novel, it's time to change. Most people can't deal with their conflicting feelings

[@marialuizadeoliveira4784]

Oh well, I have to say that this was a much better talk than the first one. I am very thankful for what Orion said towards the very end of the show. I loved the explanation of letting someone go with love. Which is so hard to do but so necessary to move on.

[@shawmanlove]

Agreed 100%! Love his Real Talk! Cuts to the chase and helps us all understand the reality of things. He rips back the curtain so we can see. Thank you both, Mark! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@worldcesar]

While I appreciate these topics and have learned a lot from them, I believe there's a trend in psychology on KZbin encouraging men to adopt behaviors that might not be genuine to themselves. People should embrace who they are; if they're not content in their relationships, they should seek divorce rather than trying to conform to societal expectations.

[@frakismaximus3052]

In the extreme sense, I agree. However, one of the few things each of us as individuals has control over is our own behaviour. The reality is, if there is an appropriate reward (or immediate punishment) for it, most of us can change our behaviour, at least enough to get by.

[@gol788]

what if what they are is from an upbringing in front of a tv instead of their parents. Do you tell that person to be who they are still?

[@Echo-o-o]

Strongly agree.

[@fahqslut]

In that embracing who you are then you should also be honest with your partner, yes. That should come BEFORE marriage so that divorce wont even come into the picture. If you were genuinely being yourself then you wouldn't marry the person in the first place. The truth is that if you are married to someone you love then you will certainly have to compromise in some sort of way. How much is up to you and that doesn't make you less than yourself. I don't consider that to be conforming to any societal expectation.

[@reneelibby4885]

there's a lid for every pot.

[@hopemarie3054]

I’m a women and agree with his last interview became a fan and excited he is back again

[@KD400_]

Ur gonna be ready for marriage. Great

[@Thomas-qi9ix]

Please expose other women in your life to Orions work.

[@hopemarie3054]

@@KD400_ I got married at 21.. 24 years later still married

[@hopemarie3054]

@@Thomas-qi9ix They don’t listen “modern women”

[@KD400_]

@@hopemarie3054 oh nice even better

[@beastinshow2362]

Very happy to have found Orion through Soft White Underbelly, loved his previous talk here and I've subbed to his psyhacks yt chan since. His daily uploads are usually great. I love how he refuses to sugar coat anything, and his input should be valued by both genders 'playing the game', as we (almost) all are, practically. Hope to see him back here many times in the future. Thank you for sharing your enlightened view of things, Orion :)

[@franziskani]

To quote this guy (from memory and from his short vids on his channel - psychacks): I am so good in assessing people that I can chose a woman that does not even speak English. I have my friends to talk to, I do not need her for that. (He also says in that context that he selects for kindness, level temperament etc.. Intelligence and education was not among the traints - obviously. Which is a glorified version of: She has to by much younger than me, look good and I only want to fuck her (and maybe she can do things for me for free). Which is his advice for women if they are interested in a guy (in another video) To prove him how they make his life easier. And of course to f**k him real good (prefereably giving him the impression that she has not done those things with any other men).

[@mishee145]

Mark you always say you’re not an interviewer, but this video is an excellent example, you are. This is a fantastic interview. You are leading an intelligent, engaging conversation.

[@danielosmon]

I couldn't agree more with his angle on heartbreak and the attachment theory. Genuinely wishing someone the best on their journey as hard as it is, really is the answer based on my experiences

[@amparovillalta6465]

Once again, PURE GOLD. Sadly, nobody likes Ugly Truth. Thank You Mark.

[@noemiburns6470]

I’ve watched his last two SWU vids a few times, so glad Mark decided to interview Orion again♥️

[@adammitchell3462]

I am a 36 year old single man, no kids. I don't have a desire for it really but I absolutely love this dude

[@Saint_Darius]

That’s sad

[@drakev.]

@@Saint_Darius It may be sad to you, but he likely doesn’t care. Let people live the life they choose.

[@S_J_banana]

good for you, man

[@dmayo3434]

eww

[@BenziitOfemme]

You are his target audience congrats

[@shinyhappybreathers]

His words on depression are in line with Jim Carey when he said depression is your avatar telling your it’s tired of playing the role it’s currently playing. It has a purpose and its purpose is to move you towards a more favourable outcome goal or situation or if it’s bad enough take ‘DEEP-rest’ (de-pression) from your current situation

[@Esther-gv5cn]

Orion's honesty and insight is amazing. Everything he is saying is absolutely true.

[@drippyeyesarelegendary5356]

Mid 20s feminine gay guy here. Will say his previous videos on this channel really dove deep into the hard truth of gender/role realities. Opened my eyes on a lot. Definitely a dude w a solid message that could help most who are willing to listen.

[@HarpreetKaur-yn1wm]

Informative stuff We, the people of the world, need more of him on your channel. Thank you.

[@emeraldlotusbylori4988]

Orion, You remind me of a cross between Carl Jung and Alan Watts. Relationships work when we confront our shadow self and integrate the spiritual/metaphysics aspects of self. I respect your truth in counsel.

[@andreavanda5402]

Yes, that would be great, but most people haven't even heard of Jung and are not willing to see their shadow.

[@TeamAwesomeDad]

Cross between a dumbass and a.....dumbass

[@franziskani]

Nope - he is a talented grifter, that saw that one can make money of the manosphere. And most likely he likes to manipulated and must be on top in a relationship. Sugarcoating that a bit. (and btw: what he presents as universal truths, is not even applicable to the U.S. - let alone the rest of the developed countries.)

[@MrBrown2.7]

@franziskani do you have an example of what is "not true" about what he speaks?

[@emeraldlotusbylori4988]

@@MrBrown2.7 I don’t because I agree with what he said. Perhaps you misread my last sentence, I respect your truth in counsel.

[@Mdubstew]

Orion, you have a full army of women who love and support your work. I appreciate your vulnerability and humility in this interview. My definition of humility is having nothing to defend, and you embodied that completely here. It was a nice juxtaposition to see you in this humble, yet confident light. A lot of people can take your words and spin them, but you speak so much truth and wisdom, and it takes a discerning heart to fully comprehend your message. I love how you see the world, and translate it to us so meticulously yet so simply. You are so refreshing, and it made me so happy to hear you acknowledge the women who stand behind you and in solidarity with your mission. Also, it was beautiful to hear you speak on love. Loved your look in this interview. Unique, and so handsome. Keep it up Orion.

[@IfSemper]

Amen! : )

[@onepartyroule]

I’m in my 40’s and have never bought into the idea of relationships as a “market place”. Maybe part of the reason is that I’m fine on my own, so have never been in a relationship for the sake of it. When I am it’s always a friendship that becomes romantic.

[@andreavanda5402]

Good for you. Neither did I until, after a long and emotionally unsatisfying marriage, I divorced and realized that it is a marketplace indeed. I was surprised and dismayed and so now I refuse to partake.

[@CM-rg9zg]

Friendships with women are for the birds.

[@onepartyroule]

@@andreavanda5402 It depends on how you're trying to meet people. It's better to meet people through activities you have in common with no expectation of anything. Casually get to know people and see where it leads.

[@MrBrown2.7]

@@andreavanda5402 right. "Wishing" there was no marketplace is not gonna help. I'm glad you respect the truth.

[@soothingsleepecstasy3160]

Soft white, it’s not because a lot of us are women that there was comments disagreeing…. It’s because he was wrong in some things he has said

[@Stjerneklang528]

What things?

[@Red9GearHeads]

The world is subjective. Your reality is not the same as other peoples. His hard truths are just that. And any truth in phycology is based on generality’s. That’s the only way to understand things. It’s important for people to recognize their way of seeing things isn’t the only way the world works. Happy people understand and respect that.

[@poopingwhilestanding5801]

"But I'M NOT LIKE THAT!"...says every woman. Yet stats prove otherwise.

[@soothingsleepecstasy3160]

@@poopingwhilestanding5801 yes stats made from incels with 500 grammatical errors😂 YALL are foolish

[@demivydE]

Things like saying that women start losing sexual value at 18. No, dude. No. I am 47, and the only value I assign to myself is my health and overall quality of life. Sexuality is both inherent and acquired. I didn't become this version of myself at 18, it took time, and no time will take it away.

[@theresafoster2353]

Glad I waited to get married at 26. We have been married almost 46 years & I was so lucky to find who I did . Orion is so right on most things!

[@susandavis903]

Waited until 29… would love to hear his thoughts for us who are over 50 &/or married 20+yrs.

[@liabw05]

You had me in the first half 😂

[@YouGotTheL]

Waited until 26? Lol how long were you originally gonna wait because that's early as Hell

[@theresafoster2353]

@@YouGotTheL it wasn’t early in the 70 s half my classmates are on the 3 rd marriage by now! Funny huh

[@YouGotTheL]

@@theresafoster2353 That is really something

[@kayja2949]

Thank you, Mark and Orian, for a very thought-provoking interview.

[@ReelikaKull]

I just googled how to leave a comment on KZbin because I've never commented on anything before on this platform 😂 I'm a 40 year old woman and I discovered Orion 2 days ago and I 've been listening to his talks in a way that I barely notice the environment around me. I truly feel like he's on to something very important. Ready to create a cozy female fan club for him (and again - never been a fan of anyone before) 😃 thanks for existing Orion!

[@SuperDranger]

The goat is back!!!

[@frakismaximus3052]

🐐

[@MJ-ge6jz]

Need to calm his sheep so they will buy is book.

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

​@@MJ-ge6jzHe has little appeal to sheep. That is what religion is for.

[@pwilliams4073]

Loving these videos with Dr T Thank You Mark , I just started dating and these videos have been of unmeasurable assistance to me .. Very Grateful to you both .

[@Anonymous-9og]

Nothing is more attractive than a beautiful mind in a man...a man that can broaden your mind's horizons...one who changes your perception of the world...produces another wrinkle within a woman's mind... I love his complexity and depth... Magnificence.

[@IfSemper]

Amen about his beautiful mind, nothing better except his beautiful heart. : )

[@NikkiRichNYC]

The Man Spoke Like An Adult Who Is Self Awaring Caring, Factual & Has Common Sense

[@MariaEOD]

He was speaking like a very raging hormonal teenage boy in the first part of his last interview.

[@e-8715]

@@MariaEODnah. You just can’t handle a disagreement.

[@SpencerB760]

I have used this guys information as discussion points during conversation, people are super interested in this

[@karinsmith4134]

My dear x husband was bipolar and severely depressed and was a complete junk food junkie and he ended up with i thought to be "failure to thrive" in business, love, cleanliness, sex, family etc and our marriage failed after 17 years... come to find out he met a woman off the internet months before i had to leave out of fear. He passed 3 years after our divorce. So i agree about serotonin and taking care of your health by eating correctly and exercising.

[@colorchangingdeals]

Nobody wants to take accountability. That’s why they’re roasting you for telling the truth. I really like this interview

[@isisantelo4440]

He is spot on. Love him or hate him, he's telling the truth.

[@michaelpristash4513]

This interview is so much less inflammatory than his others. He sounds like a different man here: more compassionate, more respectful, more in-tune to human emotion. I am not sure what has transpired, but I greatly enjoyed this sit-down. This is a different man - and I am here for it!

[@Nando_lifts2021]

same guy putting it in a manner that you can digest more easily. Which is the goal

[@MG-zu4st]

He realized his nonsense bulls**t could easily be detected by those with a brain. That's what transpired.

[@dwwolf4636]

Interview vs. Focussed elaboration of a discussion point.

[@TeamAwesomeDad]

​@@minadelaluna9277 Fact

[@MJ-ge6jz]

The psychopath analyzed the peanut gallory, made adjustments to become more palatable for his future book buyers.

[@sunshine3914]

Now I have to hear the first one to see what people found so objectionable.

[@billusher2265]

Literally it was just that he brought up men having physical standards. Any woman can say guys should be 6 ft make 6 figures and be masculine etc. but the second you mention a guy wanting something it’s “you are so shallow and immature, what matters is on the inside, the past is the past” etc.

[@dirtyace1668]

You know, I have listened to the first part and it's really nothing surprising or shocking as to what he conveyed. However, at the same time, it doesn't surprise me at all that a segment of people found it off-putting, but then there's always going to be a percentage that approaches many aspects of life by burying their heads in the sand, pretending that things are not this way or that way.

[@lizwaa100]

Yes you must. He is brilliant and his first interview broken up into parts 1 & 2 is very insightful, raw and painfully true

[@firehorse9996]

@@dirtyace1668 Agree with you 💯 but just want to point out that SWU viewers are the LAST people to bury their heads in the sand. This channel has been a real awakening, even though I have had many experiences firsthand (as a newspaper police reporter) with drug culture, crime, murder, gangs, etc., and never fails to shock. Yesterday's very disturbing update featuring the dead rat being foremost in my mind.

[@franziskani]

To quote this guy (from memory - from his vids, which are short): I am so good in assessing people that I can chose a woman that does not even speak English. I have my friends to talk to, I do not need her for that. (He also says in that context that he selects for kindness, level temperament etc.. Intelligence and education was not among the traints - obviously. Which is a glorified version of: She has to by much younger than me, look good and I only want to fuck her (and maybe she can do things for me for free). Which is his advice for women if they are interested in a guy (in another video) To prove him how they make his life easier. And of course to f**k him real good (prefereably giving him the impression that she has not done those things with any other men).

[@jowitabydlowska4605]

Mark, you should have Orian on regularly, he's highly enjoyable and we still have more questions! As an aside, I'm personally interested as I'm currently researching for a book on toxic love and hope to interview him one day. As far as this interview goes, I loved that he touched on the topic of depression today, and although he tends to oversimplify some of those concepts (but I understand the limitations of an interview and having to have digesteable soundbites) I do agree with him -- I am curious as to what is his position on how women experience depression and possible reasons why. My other questions and observations are as follows: I would like to know what he thinks about how art transcends love, specifically things like limerence and heartbreak (and/ or breakup), since I've found it, in my own life, to be an antidote to many heart-related matters. I'm a writer by profession of both fiction and non-fiction and I've often used my art to make sense out of events in my life, many of them to do with love (and as an experiment and a challenge I've written from a POV of a male as well as female, in my last two novels). I often feel extremely lucky that I have art in my life or the ability to throw my negative experiences into something that not only helps me cope but also results in tangible creations, such as books. What I am also curious about is what he thinks would be an antidote to suffering from love (the good and bad kind of suffering) if someone is not an artist. Personally, I think having any sort of pursuit -- whether that's work or building a garden shed or running a marathon -- is an excellent way out of destructive emotional pain. Same with charity. Helping others has proven to be beneficial in so many other instances, for example, the AA program is based on service because being able to get outside of yourself (and helping others) can really derail all those crushing, devastating thoughts and feelings that keep us in a loop of sel-harm or self-pity as well. Can Orian comment on art and love and what is beyond love or what can "cure" someone of heartbreak? What I also wonder about is Orian's take on people older than him, more specifically women. From what I can gather he bases a lot of his knowledge on not just what he knows as an academic but also from his own experience so this one might be more challenging to answer but what does Orian think about women who are past their childbearing years in the context of romantic relationships? I'm not asking for a friend -- I'm asking because I'm personally curious, as a 46-year-old woman who is still very much interested in finding love again and pursuing romantic relationships that include sex, companionship, common goals, etc. But, obviously, I no longer have a lot of that currency he often talks about (youth) and I've already accomplished certain milestones (marriage, children, home-ownership, career, success) so my interest in a romantic relationship is not pressured by anything biological or otherwise and I don't particularly feel lonely and that I need a partner. I just want one. And I know that I'm not an exception; there are a lot of women (and men) out there who have been married, who had and did things and who are re-entering the dating world with the same aim, which, I think is to find someone fun to share fun things with. I guess I don't have a question and I don't need a dating advice, but what is Orian's take on older women dating -- what in his experience as a therapist and maybe based on what he's learned about as an academic is life like for modern-day women in their late 30s and beyond?

[@emilypashak9834]

I just started following DR. Taraban and SWUB picked him! syncing up!

[@BulletToothboo]

Yes. This dude just spits facts IMO. Its greatly appreciated that he is out here providing this actual information that can actually help someone struggling to understand these various relationship dynamics. There's a sea of grifters on this subject and damn near no one doing this.

[@SinaLaJuanaLewis]

As a woman I agree 💯 because I have seen and experienced what he's talking about

[@MichelleMacDonald-g2u]

I could listen to him speak all day. Love this content!

[@BeingBetter]

Thanks for having Orion back on, Mark!

[@awakenedsoul1368]

Having sex with someone has never made a man fall in love with me. It made him think I was cool with a casual relationship and he strung me along for years so ya don’t agree with that statement at all

[@duraace2053]

I think you missed his other talks. Sex is just part one of three parts of getting a guy to committ.

[@hugevagiine]

Its made me fall in love with women many times