A final idea for this update (indie devlog 4-6)

[@skelleflame3519]

“If a tree falls and nobody’s around to hear it, did it make a sound?” Sapling: … … Nah

[@TheSapling]

This quote summarizes quite a lot of optimization attempts actually ;)

[@scottthesmartape9151]

@@TheSaplingplease the ability to make maps very massive and, make your own geological features in real time like the game, JWE2.

[@oils_are_metal]

@ I can feel the lag

[@MichaJoffee]

Make instincts to stay in a pack like wolves so the animals can have a better chance of survival if they evolve it

[@BundalacacaDasilva]

Your game is what I imagined in my childhood as the perfect evolution simulator

[@TheSapling]

Haha cool me too!

[@Niklaboon]

this is the first good evolotution simularion game to bad my potato pc cant run it

[@marcelanthony9166]

@@NiklaboonDid you set the graphics mode?

[@HuyĐoàn-c6o]

​@marcelanthony9166ngl whatevers U do the game is still very laggy

[@Thisguydrew]

I was daydreaming about a map/generation/environment feature to this game earlier today on my commute from work.. I'm intrigued by this thumbnail already 😆

[@dragonfirestronk]

id love to be able to draw landmasses on a map

[@TherealNiqqa]

finally, guns! 🙏

[@theomystery3422]

After the sex update, the gun update

[@milesmcallister8542]

We are building a society in this one

[@blox4funbrosthecousins]

Finally, THE MURICA UPDATE BABY!!!!!🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸

[@masonhunter2748]

@@blox4funbrosthecousins it’s amarica not murica

[@Mr.Pangolin901]

@@masonhunter2748 ITS MURICA 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

[@gamingcat6034]

Finally, that new crazy idea… turning the sapling into an mmo rpg

[@Dizzyduzzy]

Your to crazy!

[@rufflesntruffles2]

when i first saw this game about a year ago, it was so hard to understand i came back to it a few months ago and everything clicked! your game is so awesome and i love the versatility of it!!

[@stultifiction]

Yessss Optimization is exactly what it needed, Thank you

[@TheSapling]

Thank you so much, may your offspring have beneficial adaptations :)

[@Ben-py8kk]

​@@TheSapling That might be the most unique way to accept money ever😂

[@Didomate]

The ideas in this update were already crazy

[@princeoftara7091]

I can't help but be amazed at the fact I am more hyped for the optimization update rather than the new additions. wow.

[@Aura_DastlerTv]

Same lolol

[@jacobrutzke691]

5:35 bibites mentioned wooo

[@death_bull_7_428]

That really suprised me too

[@простоигры-п6х]

:)

[@theburrowking8002]

God i hope this update also re-adds creature naming, I miss that a lot. while the auto generated names are fine, i want to be able to give custom names to them.

[@Emilio-v5g]

me too

[@death_bull_7_428]

That would be really cool

[@blox4funbrosthecousins]

If they ever add that back in, then I can’t wait to name my creatures some variation of “Dingus”

[@IdioticDragon]

"Evolutionary Masterpiece" I name the piece of poop. that would be the best thing ever.

[@GrushV2]

@@blox4funbrosthecousinsdingus, bungus, and joe

[@EdinBasic12]

This is the biggest and most crucial update for this game so far, I'd say the community is proud of you and your hard work Wessel. Keep it up!

[@Mormegil66]

I love the shot of Wessel jamming after implementing a huge optimization rework. Pure emotion.

[@hlibushok]

Wessel Stoop is truly the ideal post-scarcity man who can fully dedicate himself to the arts. No but, like, seriously, how does he play so many instruments so well while also being an indie game developer and a biology nerd?

[@edocasteel]

These are all digital (virtual) instruments. You only have to play keys. Anyhow, the composition, arrangement and production of this music is very nice and well thought!

[@ArkhBaegor]

@@edocasteel There was also an electric double bass and a Cajon. Honestly though you don't need to be a great player to compose great music, with the magic of DAWs you could do almost anything.

[@Leyva0scarVRL]

​@@edocasteel we have seen him play a LOT of real instruments

[@lohjutsulegend]

I'd recommend you to check out "Dead Sound"

[@edocasteel]

@@Leyva0scarVRL I didn't know that. My assumption was made by looking at the MIDI data showed in the video. Truly Wessel is a good musician and great composer. I like the way he explained his musical choices also in earlier videos. I like that.

[@icaroporpino]

Oh my, the The Sappling Spore like ingame tab community is coming. I can sense it.

[@samueltrusik3251]

This was really nice! I had never even thought about anything like this sort of daily challenge community event! AND any challenge can theoretically be replayed by simply changing your date! Perfect job as always, mr Breadstick! Also you KNOW the playerbase is going to get wet just at the thought of better frames. :)

[@sayanmullick7559]

Man is making the bedt evolution game possible I haven't seen many youtubers uploading about this game But with the new challenge mode i can already see a lot of competition And now we can save our fav creatures too Now we can make things like "What if i create this creature and see how it will change itself in a warmer and colder planet"

[@TealClaw2102]

Quick idea, if Venus flytraps are an option for the carnivorous flowers mentioned in the first devlog, I think pitcher plants or other carnivorous flowers could add more variety. Also, squid tentacles would be soooo cooool and would fit so well! Amazing update!👍

[@Landon-c9h]

Squid tentacles would make so much sense for a creature that burrows or an actual squid creature

[@TheSapling]

Pitcher plants are also there! I like the idea of tentacles too, without making promises :)

[@TealClaw2102]

:D

[@whitdent2031]

​​@@TheSapling If you do add tentacles, I think you should make them a bit like Serina world of birds tentacled bird tentacles, those work very well and don't look odd with the vertebrate body plan. You do what you want though. If you do add this, I think having like an initially octopus-esque mouth evolve from a beak would make sense, it enables both Serina stuff and octopus stuff. As I said before, these are just ideas, don't feel pressured.

[@vinsplayer2634]

Good job! Not knowing what to do next and performance were probably the biggest problems with The Sapling, and now they're both fixed.

[@Didomate]

WESSEL IS THE G.O.A.T!!! Bro that optimization thing is CRAZY!!!

[@marthasimwanza3280]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@Sal1va]

I feel like natural barriers would be super super interesting, perhaps there could be an island cliff type, or a rafting mechanic so that smaller animals that were pregnant or gravid would have a higher chance of getting rafted to an island they normally wouldn't be able to get to. And larger animals would likely be landlocked or regionlocked based off of certain things, this could slow down all of the animals spreading everywhere in a super cool way and allow for different regions to evolve very differently, and avoid getting certain species wiped out by a more efficient species that maybe lives on another island. I find that usually when I make a world with two different species one of them spreads out everywhere and the other is outcompeted almost every time so maybe giving evolution a chance for them to carve out a nieche before they get outcompeted would be a good game mechanic.

[@Sal1va]

OH NICE! i just saw the performance part! lol

[@codybeaver4076]

I have know idea if this is already possible in the game already but neoteny should be possible. EX: an organism that has an aquatic larval form and a adult land form, should be able to lose the adult form and retain the larval or juvenile aquatic features, and the reverse should be possible. A new species may discard its aquatic form and maintain, the land form

[@TheSapling]

It's not implemented at the moment, but (without making promises) I want this myself too

[@coryman125]

Every single update you mention for this game is exciting. I don't have much to add aside from "very cool, keep it up!", but I will post that anyways if only to boost engagement on the video

[@pepsiman9093]

Finally, the gaming update

[@lucashatton7640]

The sapling in 2050 : I added survival mode (indie devlog 52-13)

[@markcook4727]

Excellent devlog, I'm super excited for the new features and parts! Good job on the optimization improvement!

[@OilSnorter]

This is awesome man! This game has a bright future, I can tell

[@YNNVex]

Trust me man after watching all your past dev logs this is an amazing evolution simulator, and with all you're adding it's an amazing game too. Keep it up it's definitely worth it man

[@uiopgamer4647]

Performance is a huge W

[@nicholasoneal1521]

This is absolutely fantastic. I'm excited for the daily scenarios

[@ermerhgerd]

This game makes me smile. Thank you for making a very passionate in-depth evo-sim. Every update blows me away :)

[@Chareddragon]

Damn, I can't believe I missed the premier. Regardless I want to offer some ideas in regards to mushrooms. Since you don't want poop, when an animal dies mushrooms can grow from the carcass which aids in restoring nutrients to the soil. Something similar should also occur with plants, with a physical representation of a dead plants that mushrooms can breakdown. Finally, underwater variations of mushrooms and physical representation of flotsam detritus. Since plants originally evolved from marine algae, a large amount of organic material is needed. With the idea being detritus would come in from the oceans, mushrooms would grow from this and introduce minerals into the soil, spreading as they go.

[@TheSapling]

Thanks so much for your input!

[@pugtron]

I'm before it premieres, I'm guessing different biomes/soil types like sand or snow!

[@Chaostar765]

Were you correct?

[@pugtron]

@@Chaostar765 nope

[@mrmemes3887]

you’re game is genuinely amazing and it shows how to perfectly make an indie game keep up the good work!

[@KaAlKyGood]

This is gonna be one awesome update.

[@mlvluu9836]

finally save function best update ever

[@DogBat]

This is the best birthday present I could’ve asked for

[@arfur5696]

what about 1 million dollars

[@MaxReallyDoesntCare]

Happy birthday.

[@spidermonkeysaredabest]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY

[@DogBat]

@@arfur5696…are you offering

[@gallior7562]

Happy birthday, and to many more. - Gallior

[@sabretoothtiger4314]

This update keeps getting better and better!

[@dr4st1c5]

The more time passes, the more I am amazed by the development this game is taking, but even more by the fact that this mammoth work was done by a single person. This update lays the foundation for improving scenarios such as aquatic and aerial. Below are some things that would be very welcome for the future: - diversify the algae editor and connect the plant editor to allow switching between the two even in the sandbox phase (perhaps instead of adding the plant editor icon as a part) - as mentioned, having an editor for algae similar to that of plants would be very useful in the case of oceanic planets, where much (if not all) biodiversity is underwater - diversify the wings already present for advantages and disadvantages. I am mainly based on the fact that, if a terrestrial species has 2 legs, flight is not easily developed. It would be useful if, for example, the pterosaur-like wings allowed quadrupedal and 2-legged walking but with the impossibility of climbing. The bat-like wing allows climbing but is susceptible to lower temperatures. The bird-like wing no climbing or quadrupedal walking but high versatility for temperatures - in addition to the turtle shell, add crocodile-like osteoderms, perhaps less protective but with greater resistance to high temperatures

[@TheSapling]

Thank so much for sharing sharing these ideas

[@allanburns1190]

this man is slowly creating my dream game

[@tuckertechnolord6126]

More scenarios is probably my most wanted thing. I was so sad that you only added the bare minimum last update.

[@Dirteater123]

Optimization was the only thing stopping me from playing this game 24/7 , glad its being improved now.

[@nodolek]

I LOVE THIS UPDATE I CANT WAIT TO PLAY IT ALREADY

[@kenxdeath]

Amazing documentation. I love your series.

[@samueltrusik3251]

As if the other ideas in this update weren`t already crazy enough. What is gonna be next?

[@1000HR_Earthmover]

Gun update and the ball cancer update

[@Idont_eatcrocs]

Disease update

[@gsquared8730]

Unicellular update

[@The_Primitive]

doodoo fart update

[@ChuckJames-wj8vg]

Idea: Add more dinosaur or reptile like parts! I notice that in the game right now we only really have bird, insect and mammal parts, and another option would be fantastic as it would unlock much more possibilities, Example: A snake like mouth would deal the damage done by poison in plants! Or a crocodile mouth which would hold the prey still for a few seconds and doing a quite a bit of damage! Hope you like this idea!

[@crishark17]

Since you touched on the subject of "competing" with other players in daily challenges, it would be interesting if we could create an ingame profile. With name, photo (create a creature for it), experience, level, that kind of thing. As objectives are achieved in the game modes, we acquire experience and evolve our profile by unlocking rewards, such as music, artwork, wallpapers for the menu home screen, titles, medals and trophies, more customization for profile, cheats for the casual sandbox game mode, perhaps even creature presets made by you or skin textures for creatures, that sort of thing. This profile could have match record tabs according to each mode, recording time played, efficiency, number of life form, etc. This way you establish a greater objective in the game and create a form of comparison between other players. For me, what's missing in the game is this, more objectives, rewards and a less passive way of playing. The fact that you practically just watch the game ends up getting a little tedious over time. I loved the new updates. I can't wait to see the final version.

[@TheSapling]

Thanks for sharing this, it's very different from the usual suggestions I receive, so very valuable

[@josh8901]

It’s so much tun to see this evolving!

[@orionsmith782]

VERY POG didnt even know about this channel until i saw the link the steam page.

[@dontforgetyoursunscreen]

I've suggested this a year ago but again it would be interesting to be able to rain and lower the terain, volcanoes and meteors already do it so i pretty sure it could be implemented

[@NorthEevee]

This might be a bit random, but it would be cool to see a 'Sappling x Bibites' steam bundle once The Bibites fully releases on Steam. Both games have a similar audience and I think a lot of people would be willing to buy both in a bundle. You guys could call it the 'Evolution Bundle'. Sounds sick tbh.

[@ninjakiwigames5418]

Optimization, let's go!! Thank you!!

[@CaedmonOS]

That dinosaur-themed attractiveness part could also be used for thermal regulation.

[@GavinMakesVideos-xm7dd]

Future update ideas (maybe full game stuff) Instinct overhaul: -adds a function for seeing a pattern (like, see thin striped pattern, go away) -adds priority instincts (this is for if 2 instincts are triggered at the same time, like 2 different instincts are triggered at the same time, so you could choose which one should happen first in the instinct editor) -instinct food option for a specific food item (like if the diet has more than one thing selected or something. This can also be used for the priorities thing too) -instinct option to start flying Plants/algae stuff -the ability to place flowers, leaves, etc. on top of a stem of a plant or on the ends of branches -the ability to place fruit to hang down from the bottoms of branches -plant patterns, like how the animal editor has a trait for patterns -plant editor option for vines, like how you can have the globular algae in the algae editor -ability to choose different stem and leaf colors -the ability to make underwater grass -coral editor Animal stuff -more insect parts (legs, wings, etc) -armored trait, like how rhinos have that -more patterns -ability to change glow color (and maybe an instinct for light colors) -ability to change eye color -ability to make different parts of the animal different colors (like different leg color or parts of the body) Misc. stuff -ability to change the amount of rocks present on the world in the world editor -rock size slider -cave generation -planets can have moons (like the rings option) that change water level -manual terrain sculpting -patterns show up on animals in more places (parts of the body with parts like legs of mouths can't have patterns at this stage of the game) that's really all I could think of for right now. I know if you decide on this stuff actually being in the game it would be really hard to do, so you don't have to do any of this, it would just be like quality of life changes or whatever. The game right now is spectacular and has a whole lot of potential. I find myself captivated by how much is truly possible in this game, and I am tuned in for any new content updates and the full game itself.

[@PowerpixelYT]

i enjoy watching this youtuber

[@TheGamingRaccoons]

You’re pretty awesome dude

[@crazycatboysolomon7006]

FINALLY, OPTOMIZATION! I downloaded the previous (or well, current) update but just can't play it on my sh*tty PC. Looking forward to trying again once this new update is out

[@lelaleasl]

Moss and lichen colonises rocky terrain and creates topsoil, this then allows plants to grow. This is how rocky islands become verdant. I think this would be great for the game, in terms of inhabiting uninhabitable islands.

[@TheSapling]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge :)

[@SHAZZZZZA]

Community scenarios would be super awesome!

[@mozzinileonardo6290]

the tournaments might be a good idea for a third series other than the dev logs and the evolution simulated

[@homelesskoopa1308]

You know he actually cares when he tells prospective customers to buy it now, while it’s cheaper, instead of after halloween.

[@Woshelyw]

What Ever Is Wessel Stoop Is Cooking It Gonna Be Great! Also No Milkbug For You Milkbug Cult (Sent Out Flying Hunter To Hunt All Milkbug) I SHALL EAT MELON! (Eat The Melon Like a Man Who Eat Watermelon In No Time)

[@masonhunter2748]

Yes, you have gone to the right path!

[@Woshelyw]

@@masonhunter2748 Yup

[@nikolausatzl8922]

This is gonna be the best Update yet

[@jakethedog0623]

i love this new music :)

[@Anticlothingtankrounds]

The sappling, u should try to make a super harsh environment with huge herbevores and predators like dinos i think that would be cool

[@mitchl5220]

Amazing work man!

[@gayrurumon]

"Acceptable framerates" say no more, it's all I've ever wanted 🤯😍🥹🥳 Seriously though, everything you've shown from this update looks exciting and fun to play with, but the improvements to optimization are definitely the biggest and most impressive part to me. I'm lucky enough to be getting a new and better gaming laptop soon, but the fact that a game this complex runs (or even just walks) at all on my current shitty, busted up hand-me-down laptop is already a feat. I hope that this upgrade will mean that more people who don't have access to really good computers can play and enjoy this game, without the frustration of one of the main modes being borderline unplayable at times. Can't wait to get my grubby little paws on that beta branch on October 31st!

[@Pangolin-6312]

Cool

[@pyroteknik8415]

Sorry this isn’t too related to the video, I just had no other idea on where to leave suggestions. I’d just like to suggest an idea I had while playing through the new update, with all the arthropoid abdomens, mouths, and eyes, it feels very odd to lack any sort of arthropoid legs, fins, wings, or other such mobility body parts that are currently lacking in any sort of arthropoid insperation. Additionally, small bug from the beta, something about certain body parts causes a really weird bug, animal models get stuck in the sky when placing, and the organism seems to just… disappear.

[@TheSapling]

Apologies for the late reply, and thanks so much for your input!

[@The_birds_document]

I LIKE TS(the sapling)

[@erinkarp]

This is such a promising update!

[@randomperson21983]

Bibites mentioned 🔥

[@kapelutek5215]

I may be finally run this game with more than 10 fps on avrage after the update🙏🙏🙏🙏 keep up the work🏆🏆🏆

[@fernandovazquez1118]

Different colors for soil and sky is my humble guess

[@de-zo6ex]

I hope so

[@death_bull_7_428]

The update has like everything I wanted in this game! I don’t even really know what to say 🎉

[@erickmarin6147]

This game now has so many features you should dedicate a while to optimization and refactoring, I'd be very interested in seeing the nitty gritty of how stuff is optimized and refactored

[@zix2421]

5:27 the bibites reference! Love both projects, but I guess your more

[@thediscussion3517]

Holy shit, as someone who studies complexity science, this is actually insane

[@Tunlover110]

I love this game! My most successful species as of now is a fish named Eactys

[@Kv-2Heavy]

Are you ever going to add the evolutionary paths of spinal cords vs not having them or skeletons or exoskeletons?

[@tdz1889]

That's a good idea cuz we have bug mouths so why not have bug limbs and features

[@alexroy9912]

I think it would be cool to see burrowing animals in a future update being even smaller than most creatures and would add a lot more way for animals to evolve. I could see a mound being a sign of a burrowing animal and would stay within the said range of the burrow and for water creatures they could be crabs or bobbit worms like that could catch small animals that come too close.

[@TheSapling]

Without making promises, it's an idea I like too!

[@dzordzcwik1362]

Also tried to make land plants and algea compete with eachother in the shallow water which is possibile also thanks to terrain editor which can add land features to water and vice versa probably not intended but found it really interesting:)

[@Locusserpens-xv8vv]

I think it would be a good idea for when making the world that you can have a tool to build land and take land to build terrain that you like :)

[@carlosroura7581]

Maybe this is already in the simulation and I missed it in the previous videos, but: You could add a feature that allows the users to set up the density of the air. In the Earth, the composition of the gases in our air makes it about 800 times less dense than water, but in another planet air could be incredibly dense, for example it could be double that of the Earth, just 400 times less dense than water. That would make it a bit more difficult for land animals to move through it at high speeds, but at the same time it would make it easier for bigger animals to fly, since more dense air would be pushed under the wings Or, if you want to explore the extremes, you could setup the air to be super dense, about 1/2 or even 3/4 the density of water. That would make it extremely difficult to move on land but would allow certain animals to kinda "swim through the air", so flight would evolve naturally in some fish that would use their fins as wings

[@TheSapling]

Thanks for sharing your idea! This is the kind of idea that people love to talk about on the Steam forum, if you're interested :)

[@Amonimus]

Remember when in Spore you can upload your creations to the server, and in turn random creatures from other players would populate your planet?

[@IdioticDragon]

great, now we can do evolution simulated season 3

[@takenname8053]

Sapling Hardcore mode!

[@Pompy129]

What an update!

[@marthasimwanza3280]

4 more days until the new sapling update comes

[@marthasimwanza3280]

2more days

[@marthasimwanza3280]

It’s out but I’m late

[@tdz1889]

Ok so i LOVE the game like really but i want more camera types oike free cam or smth because the camera is so weird and glitchy so free cam would be a good fix also id like to have lil arms which can build stuff on the creatures like lets say i have human ish arms can build a little home or smth oh and caves would be a good idea ngl

[@tdz1889]

Oh and this game is VERY laggy and crashes a LOT so has anyone got any fixes

[@TheSapling]

Thanks for your feedback! Tomorrow's patch makes it a lot less laggy on my machine! Will be available to all players (not just beta)

[@tdz1889]

@@TheSapling ok ty

[@mitchl5220]

I heard it was guns... hell yeah!

[@masonhunter2748]

Wait, is he adding projectiles?

[@大樹松場]

Very nice !!

[@thatoneguy-l5e]

ive noticed a problem that makes predation very hard, its the fact that its color based. so if a species changes color the predators are likely to die out, as many players have noticed if they add in predators they almost always die out. maybe add two instinct to something like "an herbivore" "an omnivore" "a carnivore" "a smaller species" "a same size species" " a bigger species" i feel like these instincts would help predators continue to fight and eat animals without needing to only focus on species of certain color. for example and instinct for a predator could be like this: If sees A herbivore Go towards it If sees A herbivore Than attack (if close) this could likely help make predation more useful and less likely to flunk in the game, its your choice though

[@TheSapling]

Thanks a lot for sharing your insights!

[@BurntToast_xD]

You should add territories or smth like that

[@dr.garretsshow]

My main concern is the performance of the game, it can turn into slog in 10000 years. I hope you manage to improve it! Edit: holy hell, he read our minds! Thank you!

[@radar9643]

Omg, yesss 🥹

[@flechedesneiges5114]

So cool !!

[@jungcodex]

WOW awesome

[@justmarcoriginal]

Wow, it's absolutely astonishing how far this game has come, I personally came for the sandbox and " god simulator " part of the game but I will defenitely try out the daily challanges because they seem really interesting. I could have never tought of a better evolution simulator game, possible with todays technology than this game. I am also getting myself 64 extra gigabytes of ram so I can run sandbox on a larger scale because I could never get over the 20 milennia limit with my 16gb lil guy😂

[@looc546]

OK Mr Sapling Dev I totally rescind my previous comment. This is some of the best nature game design I've ever seen, and the scope / variety you're trying to fit in is really comprehensive. As far as making the sandbox creator less overwhelming - could the part selector be something other than a tree? Could tree be an alternate, fullscreen view to track progress in regular gameplay, then in the sandbox parts are selected from a matrix or dropdown list or something?

[@Leyva0scarVRL]

No, the tree works well enough

[@TheSapling]

Hey, thanks for your input, much appreciated!