A Good Day to Die Hard - Analysis - What Went Wrong?

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Chris Stuckmann

Chris Stuckmann

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@PaulMcElligott
@PaulMcElligott 9 жыл бұрын
The great thing about John McClane was that he was the antidote to all those invincible 80s action heroes. He was human, vulnerable, and relatable. This McClane was one of those 80s action heroes he wasn't supposed to be.
@DatsWhatXiSaid
@DatsWhatXiSaid 9 жыл бұрын
Each Die Hard movie not only had a defined villain, but a defined setting. DH1 - a skyscraper DH2 - an airport DH3 - a city DH4 - a country DH5 - ??? They should have made "Olympus Has Fallen" the DH5 movie. That way, again, McClane could be thrown into a plot against his will, the setting would be very defined. We'd be back to a building, but a famous and high tech building. And the villain in OHF, Kang, would have been perfect for the DH series.
@Kasino80
@Kasino80 9 жыл бұрын
Olympus has fallen is a great Die Hard movie
@JohnCharrington
@JohnCharrington 9 жыл бұрын
Kasino80 cracked?
@anikmonette2140
@anikmonette2140 6 жыл бұрын
That's What Xi Said I bet it was the original pitch for the movie, and decided to do the father/son bullshit in Russia with a nuclear menace intrigue...
@JohnNewton27
@JohnNewton27 6 жыл бұрын
I have a headcanon that John Cale from White House Down is John McClane’s illegitimate son. I think he got drunk one night while he and Holly were separated, and hooked up with Cale’s mom.
@night-seeker666
@night-seeker666 4 жыл бұрын
A commenter once said this is like the scale getting larger and larger, and that Die Hard 5 SHOULD have been either the Continent or the World.
@MegaCrocosaurus92
@MegaCrocosaurus92 10 жыл бұрын
The Unrated version of Die Hard 4 was a hundred times better than this film. Why does no one mention that cut ever? That was the cut that was intended to be released in the first place but was switched at the request of the studio.
@metsjets333
@metsjets333 10 жыл бұрын
To be honest I thought PG-13 Die Hard 4, was 100X better than the fifth one.
@jamesmors9912
@jamesmors9912 9 жыл бұрын
It's never mentioned, because that cut isn't much better. It had a couple F bombs ooooooohh watch out now.
@SB992REBORN
@SB992REBORN 2 жыл бұрын
It's on 1080P and Blu-ray right now so just watch it people
@SB992REBORN
@SB992REBORN 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmors9912 no watch the theatetrical then unrated..... you'll see bigg difference
@deathgaming7408
@deathgaming7408 8 жыл бұрын
When i first click this i thought it was Cinema Sins lol.
@rickycollins7723
@rickycollins7723 6 жыл бұрын
XD Same
@dylankaiser5546
@dylankaiser5546 6 жыл бұрын
me too lol
@GingerZombie29
@GingerZombie29 4 жыл бұрын
@DillyDyson007 I had to unsubscribe from cinema sins, because it became fucking annoying. It's just "that's racist" on *EVERYTHING*
@danielhathaway1498
@danielhathaway1498 4 жыл бұрын
People who hate cinemasins are just too goddamn serious. Its obviously meant to be taken light-heartedly. I mean, Honest Trailers can be just as pedantic, but they're still hilarious (or at least they used to be). Ditto, CinemaSins
@oops6876
@oops6876 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Hathaway Honest Trailers is actually funny. And they don’t get all defensive when people call em on their bullshit.
@_Master_Wolf
@_Master_Wolf 9 жыл бұрын
Die Hard: Fucking Awesome. Die Hard 2: Cool. Die Hard: With a Vengeance: Fucking Awesome. Live Free or Die Hard: Fucking Epic!!! A Good Day to Die Hard: I fell asleep. Never finished it. Never will. Literally pointless.
@oliverhayhoe
@oliverhayhoe 9 жыл бұрын
I'd call 1 Fucking epic and Live Free fucking awesome myself
@michav3231
@michav3231 9 жыл бұрын
silentwolfSW97 Yippee ki-yay
@_Master_Wolf
@_Master_Wolf 9 жыл бұрын
Oliver Hayhoe Epic is more large scale and big action scenes - Die Hard 4. While awesome is cool and fun and humerous - Die Hard.
@oliverhayhoe
@oliverhayhoe 9 жыл бұрын
silentwolfSW97 Oh ok.
@orinanime
@orinanime 9 жыл бұрын
+silentwolfSW97 DH - 9.9/10 DH2 - 5/10 DH3 - 9/10 DH4 - 8/10 DH5 - 2/10
@Kokombads
@Kokombads 10 жыл бұрын
Die Hard 1: A Bank Die Hard 2: An Airport Die Hard 3: A Whole City Die Hard 4: The Whole Country I was expecting The whole world to be in danger in Die Hard 5, perhaps Die Hard 5 should be Armageddon though
@mr.midnight5632
@mr.midnight5632 9 жыл бұрын
Die hard 1 is a skyscraper.
@theojkk5298
@theojkk5298 10 жыл бұрын
I am the only one who really liked Die Hard 4? that movie was fun as hell.
@khrisscortez
@khrisscortez 10 жыл бұрын
*_4 and 5 are good for me, but personally liked more 4.0_*
@stevenjohnson7442
@stevenjohnson7442 10 жыл бұрын
Of course your not the only one! Its liked by many and highly rated.
@ultraguy8771
@ultraguy8771 8 жыл бұрын
+TheOjkk Currently a 7 on IMDb so no.
@neilbean488
@neilbean488 5 жыл бұрын
I love A Clockwork Orange
@Selrisitai
@Selrisitai 5 жыл бұрын
Watched 4 again recently and it is either my favorite or second-favorite Die Hard. It's consistently entertaining and there's just nothing I can do about it. I'm very particular with the movies I like. I only like maybe 40 movies in all, ever? But Die Hard 4 is one of 'em. In fact, I used to say 2 wasn't very good, but last time I watched it, it was far more entertaining than I'd remembered. Five is shockingly, strikingly, even _impressively_ awful.
@kevincheng81
@kevincheng81 8 жыл бұрын
Curiously, the disaster of Die Hard 5 made me more desperate for a sequel. I mean, it just can't end like this!
@twmcgraw3035
@twmcgraw3035 8 жыл бұрын
Well, we aren't getting a sequel exactly, but a prequel is in the works which is supposed to be set prior to the first film even though that was the John McClane origin story...
@kevincheng81
@kevincheng81 8 жыл бұрын
twmcgraw303 I'm optimistic that they'll change their mind, franchise stretchers nobody wanted didn't do fabulously in 2016, they'll see sense.
@jarosbodytko6462
@jarosbodytko6462 8 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they'll get a good actor to play a young John McClane. Bruce Willis turned the character into an icon, it should be done justice.
@cadethumann8605
@cadethumann8605 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Cheng What I tend to do with bad followups is basically pretend the story is not canon to the original.
@cadethumann8605
@cadethumann8605 7 жыл бұрын
***** Strange. I don't recall or see my comment referencing the Alien movies. Still, good for you that you liked Alien 3. I didn't and in my mind, the story concluded with Aliens. Then again, that's just my opinion. No disrespect to yours, my good person.
@ArmidaMusic
@ArmidaMusic 10 жыл бұрын
Die Hard: Awesome! Die Hard 2: Very Good. Die Hard with a Vengeance: Awesome! Live Free or Die Hard: Good. A Good Day to Die Hard: ... WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THIS PIECE OF SHIT?!
@YungM.D.
@YungM.D. 2 жыл бұрын
Die Hard: McClane is utterly desperate to save Ellis’s life from Gruber. Ellis, a man he doesn’t like and thinks very little of. He is visibly shaken when he hears Ellis killed over the radio. Die Hard 5: McClane, after running over civilians and wildly shooting bazookas in the street: “I’m on vacation!”
@abramsullivan7764
@abramsullivan7764 Жыл бұрын
What
@jacobhaimovitz4326
@jacobhaimovitz4326 Жыл бұрын
A Good Day to Die Hard the hugely highly terrible forgettable infamous unpopular uniconic unsuccessful action/adventure film sequel to the highly hugely beloved/popular famous/legendary iconic unforgettable timeless classic global cultural phenomenal blockbuster smash hit action/adventure film series Die Hard Film Tetralogy/Quadrilogy lost the highly hugely important good message from the main protagonist John McClane both caring about & protecting good people from bad people and in A Good Day to Die Hard John McClane the main protagonist does not care about or is protecting good people from bad people and John McClane was kind humble respectful polite in the first four films but in this one he is extremely selfish self-centered rude disrespectful mean impolite
@VladiSSius
@VladiSSius 7 жыл бұрын
I refuse to acknowledg that Die Hard 5 exist.
@WH250398
@WH250398 7 жыл бұрын
You also refuse to acknowledge the e in acknowledge exists lol
@bulbies3010
@bulbies3010 7 жыл бұрын
VladiSSius I refuse to acknowledge that proper grammar exists.
@tonykoslowski5010
@tonykoslowski5010 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think any Die Hard fan acknowledges this movie exists.
@night-seeker666
@night-seeker666 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonykoslowski5010 There was a 5th Die Hard movie?
@scottknode898
@scottknode898 3 жыл бұрын
I know your comment is 4 years old but I agree as I am big fan of the original Die Hard and the sequels Die Hard 2 and 3. I have seen them many times and I am only 34 years old. I have seen Die Hard 4 a number of times but own first 3 on dvd. I have only 5th one once and never again.
@hunterkiller1440
@hunterkiller1440 11 жыл бұрын
It'll be funny if Chris presented this video while he was wasted.
@annonymousmaniaciii
@annonymousmaniaciii 9 жыл бұрын
"I'm not one of the people who debate about Die Hard 4 being ruined by its PG13 rating." How I feel about Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.
@thephantomseb
@thephantomseb 9 жыл бұрын
Die Hard 5 great movie. I mean it was directed by John Moore that guy who made the great Max Payne movie. (everything in this comment was sarcasm).
@night-seeker666
@night-seeker666 4 жыл бұрын
But that would mean- but then you- *-head blows up-*
@joshmcdonald1510
@joshmcdonald1510 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't even finish Die Hard 5. The first half of the movie was too painful for me to even finish the film. It is no doubt the worst film of the franchise & it was a disgrace how they butchered the character of John McClane.
@scottknode898
@scottknode898 2 жыл бұрын
I only watched it once and was done with it and have seen the first 3 many times as my favorites especially the first and second Die Hard. Die Hard 4 was not terrible was not one of the best but seemed Willis still was in it and not phoning it in like his most recent movies.
@ThomasTHEONEANDONLY
@ThomasTHEONEANDONLY 3 жыл бұрын
This video still holds up after almost eight years.
@rvzuidema
@rvzuidema 10 жыл бұрын
Die hard 1 was great Die hard 2 was realy good Die hard 3 was olso realy good Die hard 4 was nice Die hard 5 was a waste of my time.
@stevenjohnson7442
@stevenjohnson7442 10 жыл бұрын
Yep! Perfectly summed up.
@mrn7356
@mrn7356 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry buy die hard 4 was an abomination. Cops read Miranda rights and arrest bad guys NOT murder them leaves bodies behind and get praised. The villain was so weak. What was the reason for kidnapping the whore of a daughter?? How did he teleported to Virgia so so fast.
@Friedphesh
@Friedphesh 4 жыл бұрын
Die hard 1=One of the best action movies of all time, amazing Die hard 2= Pretty good and enjoyable Die hard 3= Second best in the franchise, amazing Die hard 4= Meh, fine I guess Die hard 5= Bullshit
@RanaRandom
@RanaRandom 4 жыл бұрын
@Cheetah NassBacke Should be called *Die HardCORE* (my version of Die Hard 6, if that ever happens)
@dong.corleone
@dong.corleone 4 жыл бұрын
@@RanaRandom Die Hard: A MASTERPIECE Die Hard With A Vengeance: A very UNDERRATED sequel Live Free or Die Hard: Sure it's PG-13 but it's still a fun flick, and to me is the TRUE END to the Die Hard series Die Hard 2: Ehh, not as fun to watch as 1,3, or 4 but it's still a solid flick Die Hard 5: PREFER NOT TO TALK ABOUT, This movie does not exist. Also, I thankfully ONLY own the first four films
@darthwolf2592
@darthwolf2592 7 жыл бұрын
my ranking: 5. Die Hard 5 4. Die Hard 4 3. Die Hard 2 2. Die Hard 3 1. Die Hard
@zakbrandsinc
@zakbrandsinc 5 жыл бұрын
DarthWolf Spot on
@hemanair2828
@hemanair2828 5 жыл бұрын
That is my exact same ranking
@Friedphesh
@Friedphesh 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I 100% agree.
@nozieyusof9148
@nozieyusof9148 4 жыл бұрын
1:1 2:3 3:4 4:2 5:5
@Alexanderzx360
@Alexanderzx360 10 жыл бұрын
It's just like Rocky V, I hope they fix it on a Die Hard 6 like they did in Rocky Balboa
@jakesweet1000
@jakesweet1000 10 жыл бұрын
or they can cut their losses and not make another sequel
@Locadel2003
@Locadel2003 4 жыл бұрын
And then die hard 7, with Oscar nomination by Bruce Willis like creed for Stallone 😂
@akosleoszilagyi2529
@akosleoszilagyi2529 4 жыл бұрын
Or John Rambo after the awful Rambo III.
@WH250398
@WH250398 4 жыл бұрын
@@akosleoszilagyi2529 And then they proceeded to shit on Rambo with Last Blood.
@akosleoszilagyi2529
@akosleoszilagyi2529 4 жыл бұрын
@@WH250398 Rambo franchise from worst to best: 3,5,4,2,1
@ActivistParrot
@ActivistParrot 9 жыл бұрын
When diehard 4 came out I questioned the rating. I mean it's John McClane. At first I thought the PG-13 rating took away from his character. After I watched it my opinion changed. Live free or die hard was awesome. That's why I agree that ratings don't mean anything
@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502
@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502 8 жыл бұрын
+ActivistParrot Unless it's Deadpool Deapool really needed the R rating.
@DogWick
@DogWick 8 жыл бұрын
I liked how it let a younger audience know the charm of the die hard movies.
@StraightEdgeKnight19
@StraightEdgeKnight19 4 жыл бұрын
This video used to be called “Everything wrong with Die Hard 5”
@scottianson384
@scottianson384 4 жыл бұрын
There are only 4 Die Hard movies.
@amirgarcia547
@amirgarcia547 8 жыл бұрын
Daemn. This would definitely go on a top ten movies that ruined the franchise list.
@seventyeight3452
@seventyeight3452 9 жыл бұрын
Well you can say John McClane is UNBREAKABLE!! I am so sorry.
@doritochipgamer474
@doritochipgamer474 5 жыл бұрын
Seventy Eight you remind me of when Bruce Willis actually cared.
@ambroseburnside1950
@ambroseburnside1950 4 жыл бұрын
No he’s Crazy Steve
@paytonsapp6011
@paytonsapp6011 7 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who who thinks that the writer, Skip Woods kind of looked like Mickey Rourke in that picture?
@shawn4585
@shawn4585 4 жыл бұрын
Same 👍
@ChrisStuckmann
@ChrisStuckmann 11 жыл бұрын
Ha! Terrific comment.
@night-seeker666
@night-seeker666 4 жыл бұрын
...what?
@avanishdutta2658
@avanishdutta2658 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with Die hard 5 was the over top action and misinterpretation of John Mcclane. John Mcclane isn't some superhero with powers. He is a regular guy, a man with a family, a retired cop. He is now getting old. So this is the perfect oppurtunity to show his vulnerability. Show us his struggles, his injuries, he gets shot, he limps, he uses bandages to heal his injuries. He intimidates the bad guys, he makes them angry, annoyed and wish that they die. He is ahead of them. He doesn't get time to rest. Show the vulnerability of the hero. The action must be grounded. Not some kind of over the top truck chase, but a car chase. He doesn't know he is followed, but when he does, make him feel the tension. He is afraid that others may die because of him. That keeps a good die hard movie, a die hard movie. A great plot must be there. I don't know why, but studios today don't emphasize on the fact of having a great action screeplay at their hands. For die hard 6, have david leitch direct it, and have a great writer attached to it. No shaky cams, No quick cuts. Good ol' wide shots, and time for film to breathe. Then only will it work.
@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502
@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502 8 жыл бұрын
8:35 Thank God somebody has finally said this, a hero is not interesting unless we can believe he can get his ass kicked at some point. The Bride in Kill Bill almost got killed several times and she only defeated her oponents after they had given their fucking best and Ash Williams, as badass as he is, spends a huge chunk of the Evil Dead movies running away from something before he gets to shoot some deadite in the face which adds tension to every scene they're in.
@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502
@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502 8 жыл бұрын
***** The really injured part is always up for debate (See John McClane literally being nearly unable to stand at the end of the movie or Ash Williams cutting his hand) and I agree we deep down know the hero won't be killed, not only in most movies but also in most novels, but good action movies can make you let go a bit off this fact and make you feel tension and root for your guy to win.
@Deadgod91
@Deadgod91 8 жыл бұрын
+Arturo Casab Ash Williams gets beaten, tortured, his wife turns into a deadite & he have to kill her, then dismember her later, his hand gets possessed ,then he to have to lop it off, even himself gets possessed & entire movie he gets tormented. But the scene where he gets his chainsaw hand, whole build up to it , its music & that one-liner "Groovy" ,IMO it's the most badass scene in any horror movie. As a kid, i was used to watching protagonists in horror movie gets tormented , scared to death, always running away & it made sense since you can't punch ghosts or demons but it was first time i saw a guy fight back; it was just refreshing & incredibly awesome to see a horror movie guy turn into an action hero & kick some demon ass.
@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502
@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502 8 жыл бұрын
Deadgod91 Never saw it that way, but it's quite true now that you mention it.
@TheKersey475
@TheKersey475 10 жыл бұрын
Some ideas to potentially fix Die Hard 6: -Bring the setting back to Nakatomi Plaza -Make the villain a Gruber (Hans's son played by Daniel Radcliffe?) -Bring back John McClane's "every-man" status by making his age a factor -Go the "Last Cruade" route and cast Clint Eastwood as John McClane's father. -Recast John McClane's son (maybe with Channing Tatum?)
@Kokombads
@Kokombads 10 жыл бұрын
well, like I said, DH1 was a bank, DH2 was an airport, DH3 was a whole city, DH4 was the whole country, so DH5 should have been atleast a whole continent or the whole world IN DANGER
@johnheed8933
@johnheed8933 10 жыл бұрын
Not Daniel Radcliffe? How about Benedict Cumberbatch? He is way more sinister. Just look at Star Trek Into Darkness and his performance as Smaug in the Hobbit movies. Now he would make a great Gruber. And, he could have a kick-ass henchman, perhaps played by the Rock maybe, kinda like Karl was to Hans.
@Kokombads
@Kokombads 10 жыл бұрын
what about Kristen Stewart as a recast for his daughter?
@Justice237
@Justice237 10 жыл бұрын
TheKersey475 That does sound good, but something tells me that if they did do that, critics would play the 'rehash' card. Don't get me wrong, making the villain a Gruber in Die hard 3 did work amazingly well, but maybe bringing it back to Nakatomi Plaza would make it seem like a rehash, unless the terrorists were intending to commit a completely different crime, or in a different way. Maybe Hugo Weaving as the villain? He would be a great one, he scares the living daylights out of me in every movie I've seen him in - and that's including Proof!
@Justice237
@Justice237 10 жыл бұрын
I'll be looking forward to it
@Eisenbison
@Eisenbison 8 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis. This review reminds me very much of the Plinkett reviews of the Star Wars prequels, not only in it's style, but how well it's able to analyze point-by-point what the movie is missing, what it did wrong, and why this movie doesn't live up to it's franchise. Good job!
@Chromosoner
@Chromosoner 9 жыл бұрын
I remember going to see this opening day with my friend, and she came out really liking it whilst I was livid. And after I talked about what had happened and why I hated it, she wound up agreeing with me and turning against what she had seen as just a film she enjoyed seeing things blow up in but couldn't really follow the plot. One of my biggest peeves about what they didn't get about McClane is how it's a constant running theme of this film how he isn't affectionate, and "not a hugging family" and all this machismo b.s. ...pretty sure one of the first things he does the second he gets a chance in the first two films was running into the arms of his wife and smother her with kisses and just holds her because it's what he needs right now... yeah that sounds like a man who hates affection.. Also followed up by his constant shouting of "I'm on vacation!" ..no you're not! You're there to watch your son's trial! If it was on vacation then you'd have just gone there and decided watching your son get the death penalty would be the best start to a nice week off!
@boab69y2k
@boab69y2k 10 жыл бұрын
I think they rated it R because its rubbish lol
@colleenking8568
@colleenking8568 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I’m your analyzation videos really deserve more views. I love hearing your thought process on this. Thank you for these!
@Justice237
@Justice237 10 жыл бұрын
Rotten Tomatoes ratings: Die Hard: 92% Die Hard 2: 66% Die Hard 3: With a Vengeance: 51% Live Free or Die Hard: 82% A Good Day to Die Hard: 14% Need I say more?
@skuzad25
@skuzad25 10 жыл бұрын
That's any path of Hollywood action sequels. The first one being the best (Die Hard), the second one not as good (Die Hard 2), the third one being not too bad (Die Hard 3: With a Vengeance), a completely unexpected comeback good film (Live Free or Die Hard), and then a piece of dried up dog shit typically found under a couch (A Good Day to Die Hard).
@Justice237
@Justice237 10 жыл бұрын
You think? Mission: Impossible: 61% Mission: Impossible 2: 57% Mission: Impossible III: 70% Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol: 93%
@transfrmpnguinz
@transfrmpnguinz 10 жыл бұрын
AdoreSinging394% Gotta agree that MI IV was much better than the original trilogy. Everything about that film was just fucking brilliant.
@Justice237
@Justice237 10 жыл бұрын
I've only seen a few scenes and it looks really kickass
@filmsagainstempires1388
@filmsagainstempires1388 10 жыл бұрын
That is so bizarre because Die Hard 3 is one of the best in the series, in my opinion even better than Live Free or Die Hard. I think it is the second best one.
@bryanramirez1858
@bryanramirez1858 10 жыл бұрын
This guy... This guy gets it.
@chucho35pewdsmiester78
@chucho35pewdsmiester78 4 жыл бұрын
They should have replaced the son with the daughter character from 4. Maybe she got involved with some bad ppl. Would’ve been much more interesting.
@dooml0r
@dooml0r 9 жыл бұрын
So John Mclane became Bruce Willis in Die hard 5?
@callumbrown5375
@callumbrown5375 9 жыл бұрын
I try to forget this movie
@thecollector427
@thecollector427 3 жыл бұрын
Try Hard
@barrydalgarno6564
@barrydalgarno6564 9 жыл бұрын
Can I just say that while I can see why 1, 3 and 4 get a lot of respect ( and rightly so ), I honestly don't see why 2 is ranked so low. I really like it. Nothing was ever going to beat the first but considering how bad sequels to great action films can be ( I'm looking at you, Speed 2 ), Die Harder is actually pretty damn entertaining. And for the record, I want the sixth and final film to be about McClane taking on a gang of terrorist nuns and to be called Old Habits Die Hard.
@sashaking1115
@sashaking1115 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I LOVE Die Hard 2!!!!!
@jaimonjohn2516
@jaimonjohn2516 Жыл бұрын
Now years later It's sad to remember die hard series didn't end on a high note but hey on the good side people started to appreciate die hard 2 & 3 more
@GetToDaChoppa-k5r
@GetToDaChoppa-k5r 9 жыл бұрын
Bruce Willis is a total sellout. He willingly embarked on a doomed venture with two hacks, and took his awesome Die Hard series to the grave. Shame on him!
@tommym7626
@tommym7626 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed. What a tool
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but no matter who much money we make, if they offer ANY of us millions to do a shitty movie, we'll be accepting that offer. ANY OF US.
@SmartSmears
@SmartSmears 7 жыл бұрын
I dunno, Steve Carell turned down Get Smart 2 until the script was better
@G-Blockster
@G-Blockster 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite Die Hard Movies are 1, 4, 3, 2....... and 5 is a distant last place. If you hadn't shown a still of the villain, I never would have known it. I guess that's the definition of "forgettable."
@levarmitchell3962
@levarmitchell3962 8 жыл бұрын
Behind Enemy Lines was good though.
@hoogerman8
@hoogerman8 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah what is up with that movie? A shitty writer and Owen Wilson as an actually believable dramatic action hero? Geeze, the guy's 'comedy' sucks balls but apparently he can pull off the dramatic action hero schlickt pretty well.
@foopa777
@foopa777 7 жыл бұрын
I love hating this movie.
@PKMN37
@PKMN37 9 жыл бұрын
As you said, the hero needs to have vulnerable moments. Even Superman (though I'm not a big fan) has had these in his many incarnations. Invincible heroes are boring. Hollywood needs to remember this.
@MovieManiacX
@MovieManiacX 10 жыл бұрын
"He may be an alien who came to study our reaction to ruined franchises." Hahahahaha that was great!
@Howizzie
@Howizzie 10 жыл бұрын
One day I decided to go on KZbin to see a review for a movie that was coming out, your video was at the top of the list, I don't think I have ever laughed so hard at your videos, the hilarioucity reviews are gold. You have inspired me to post videos about things I am passionate about as well. Thank you,
@pushon10
@pushon10 9 жыл бұрын
God I hate this movie.
@ivancorredera4241
@ivancorredera4241 9 жыл бұрын
Blame the director. He's the culprit. And Hollywood.
@tonykoslowski5010
@tonykoslowski5010 7 жыл бұрын
+Ivan Corredera Don't forget the writer.
@zimnyman
@zimnyman 9 жыл бұрын
I am so happy that I'm not the only one who enjoys Live Free or Die Hard. You're the best, Chris Stuckmann.
@volleygirl8799
@volleygirl8799 10 жыл бұрын
100% accurate! This movie causes me physical and mental pain and was immensely disappointing.
@XARIER39
@XARIER39 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy that you are so genuine. It is refreshing.
@andyb2341
@andyb2341 7 жыл бұрын
if he would instead have made a video of "everything right with Die Hard 5" then this video would only be seconds long. would have saved some time
@orinanime
@orinanime 9 жыл бұрын
I agreed with everything you said Stuckmann! I said basically the same in my review a while back. Didn't even know about your reviews until yesterday. Binge watching now!
@thebatman4279
@thebatman4279 10 жыл бұрын
Film was crap, tagline was genius. 'Yippee-ki-yay mother-Russia'.
@_Digishade_
@_Digishade_ 9 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, I think I'd actually like to see a Die Hard 6, with John just being a retired cop trying to live out the rest of his life. Maybe he runs into some trouble at a local bank while trying to resolve an issue with his social secuirty deposit or his pension or something. Maybe Sam Jackson's character from 3 makes a cameo, or Reginald VelJohnson shows up again. John gets into fights. Things explode I'd like to say that 5 ruined this franchise and that we'll never see another one of these movies ever again, but we all know Hollywood is retarded and they're going to regurgitate this kind of pointless drivel at us until Bruce Willis is dead (and then they'll just CG him into the next one,) but oh well. I can dream. Fun fact: My Father actually met William Sadler (Col. Stuart from DH 2/Death from Bogus Journey/A great actor from a ton of other pretty great movies and TV) one afternoon at an utterly massive swapmeet/yardsale-thing in New England, many, many years ago. He walked up to him and said, "I loved you in Lethal Weapon." Mr. Sadler was quite polite about the whole thing, but damn, we've never let him live that down ever since. The funny thing was, my Father was totally thinking Die Hard 2 at the time and that other film just came out instead. The poor guy. :p
@13Sol46
@13Sol46 8 жыл бұрын
+Digishade Watch film called "16 Blocks". It's about "John just being a retired cop trying to live out the rest of his life."
@ronanmagee7557
@ronanmagee7557 7 жыл бұрын
Are we not going to mention that THEY WALKED INTO FUCKING CHERNOBYL WEARING ONLY LEATHER JACKETS!!
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 5 жыл бұрын
Rian Johnson "Hold My Beer"
@Eqvil
@Eqvil 8 жыл бұрын
Chris, you are brilliant, and because of that, you can do better than "nucular".
@jarosbodytko6462
@jarosbodytko6462 8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. If you wanna sound dumb, say 'nucular' :D To be clear, in no way am I saying Chris is dumb.
@second2none914
@second2none914 8 жыл бұрын
Eqvil nucular is mostly how it's pronounced in the uk
@Eqvil
@Eqvil 8 жыл бұрын
Second2none Even if the whole world pronounced it like that, NUCLEAR CANNOT be pronounced NUCULAR and end up correct. :P
@itsbreadbin
@itsbreadbin 11 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your analysis videos, subscribed.
@LawoftheLandPA
@LawoftheLandPA 8 жыл бұрын
Nu-clear. NU-CLEAR. NOT Nookular. Geez.
@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502
@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502 8 жыл бұрын
+LawoftheLandPA Hey, leave Chris Luthor alone.
@rilluma
@rilluma 8 жыл бұрын
lol nope.
@ResidentReveler
@ResidentReveler 8 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Zod's.....
@neverlng
@neverlng 7 жыл бұрын
Nu-cle-ar. NU-CLE-AR. NOT New-cleer. Jeece.
@pimnijsten9007
@pimnijsten9007 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, writer Skip Woods is Bruce Willis' personal writer/assistent. In 'A three evening with Kevin Smith' Smith talks about his time on the DH4 set, including a quote by Woods that there are 20 writers on the movie. So this should clarify why Woods got to (co-?)write DH5; he's been a personal friend and collegue of BW for years. You should go and check Smith's skit out, Chris, because it's a really funny anekdote. Hope this helped.
@seventyeight3452
@seventyeight3452 9 жыл бұрын
This isn't made by cinemasins *ding* but still great video.
@sanyadek
@sanyadek 9 жыл бұрын
+Seventy Eight So sin removed, right?
@seventyeight3452
@seventyeight3452 9 жыл бұрын
sanyadek Its a sin on Chris
@nurse425
@nurse425 4 жыл бұрын
It was nice that they released an R rated version of Die Hard 4.0
@derajnitram1882
@derajnitram1882 9 жыл бұрын
This movie was horrible, and I mean horrible, I'm a huge fan of Die Hard, but as big of a fan as I am, I cannot forgive this hunk of garbage. John McClane is no longer a guy concerned with protecting the innocent, now he's a guy who punches someone because of a language barrier? I couldn't believe that scene, because it goes against everything that John McClane as a character is. Killing bad guys, and being a smart ass to them sure, but hurting civilians? come on! This is a bad film in every sense of the word, nothing redeemable about it, the plot is dull, the action is clunky, and the characters including John McClane are atrocious.
@artit42
@artit42 9 жыл бұрын
The first Die Hard that I slept watching it.
@thephantomseb
@thephantomseb 9 жыл бұрын
Shion Wataritsuki me too man the movie sucks :D
@YouKon95
@YouKon95 9 жыл бұрын
While I watched this movie, in the scene where they drive from Moscow to Ukraine (I think it was), I had to check how long that way was. It's quite a long time since I saw it and don't remember that much, but from Moscow to that place in Ukraine would take half a day to drive. It seemed like they drove for like 2 hours, and I don't think the car they drove was full of gas.
@fANYA_KOPlan
@fANYA_KOPlan 9 жыл бұрын
YokonAA Exactly. And yes - Chernobyl is in Ukraine, and I'm not even sure if creators of the movie were aware of that. Those two would have to cross the border for that trip.
@brianmorash3962
@brianmorash3962 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Chris, and I totally agree with your points here, especially the fact that McClane now seems to have zero fucks now when it comes to protecting civilians and how the Die Hard 5 villain was beyond abysmal. But curious, in your other video detailing how well done the villains of the first 4 Die Hard movies, why do you feel the Die Hard 2 villain of Colonel Stewart to be only” acceptable,” compared to the villains of - DH 1, 3, and 4? I mean, personally, I felt the DH-2 villain of Colonel Stewart, a former US Special Forces military officer gone traitor to be a pretty bad ass villain. Colonel Stewart of Die Hard 2 was a cold, ruthless, and scary psychopath willing to do just about anything to reach his goal. Stewart even coldly and purposely directed a 747 of civilizations into the concrete, killing them, without batting an eye, and smiled, sadistically enjoying himself while doing so. Also Stewart is the one villain of the Die Hard franchise who’s plan came closest to working. If McClane hadn’t lit that fuel trail on Stewart’s escape plane at the last second, Stewart’s entire plan would’ve succeeded, as he and his mercenaries would’ve escaped to freedom. So while not as awesome as Hans Gruber, Colonel Stewart of Die Hard 2 I thought made a very effective villain, equally good as Simon Gruber of DH-3 and Thomas Gabriel of DH-4.
@totalpartykill999
@totalpartykill999 4 жыл бұрын
almost forgot this was 7 years old.
@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841
@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841 3 жыл бұрын
Same here bruh
@MrEniro123
@MrEniro123 10 ай бұрын
The short answer to that question. Everything
@yakuza01
@yakuza01 8 жыл бұрын
Timothy Olyphant's character was memorable? Really? I would have used a pic of William Sadler instead. You could even make an argument that he did the most fucked up thing out of all the villains in the franchise (crashing that plane).
@twmcgraw3035
@twmcgraw3035 8 жыл бұрын
I think Timothy's character was pretty memorable. He was a different kind of villain for a Die Hard film and he had some pretty good one liners.
@yakuza01
@yakuza01 8 жыл бұрын
twmcgraw303 I don't even remember half the time that he played a Die Hard villain and have to be reminded of it. Shit, I don't even remember his plan outside of involving hacking. The one thing I do remember is that he just felt like a very weak villain to me. McClain just had such an easy time getting under his skin, even his daughter was not scared to talk shit to his face. You just never felt any level of threat with this guy.
@jarosbodytko6462
@jarosbodytko6462 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's true that he was easily irritated and didn't seem imposing, but he wasn't afraid to put his threats into action. He was not the villain who only threatens to pull the trigger, he actually did pull the trigger. But yeah, he was a different type of villain and that's why he worked for me. Him being a cyber terrorist and very familiar with technology while John McClane pretty much hates anything more complex than a toaster created a very interesting dynamic for me.
@hoogerman8
@hoogerman8 8 жыл бұрын
I like that Olyphant's character was more hands off. He wasn't a military type so he had to rely on his goons his smok'n hot girlfriend and his tech support to get by. He had to connive in a way that was different from previous villains and he was no less effective or menacing. The biggest problem with DH4 is the scenario. A compelling one at that especially given how real it is but it's like they tried to wrap a die hard movie around it and the two just aren't exactly chocolate and peanutbutter if you catch my drift.
@yakuza01
@yakuza01 8 жыл бұрын
Jaros Bodytko But wouldn't Colonel Stuart (William Sadler) rank higher in that respect (about going through with his threats?)? He killed a bunch of people (what's the capacity on a 747?). I mean, he killed a little girl if you think about it. He might be the most despicable of all the Die Hard villains, including the Gruber brothers.
@neil9251
@neil9251 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing die hard 5 in cinemas as my first movie and thought it was average at best. I just finished watching all 4 other movies on Disney+ then rewatched 5 again and completely agree with everything in this video. 1: Classic. 2: Decent Standard Action Movie 3: Awesome 4: Good 5: Should never have been made.
@joeyjerry1586
@joeyjerry1586 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, the die hard movie are on disney+?
@Zer0Hour17
@Zer0Hour17 9 жыл бұрын
Has Jai Courtney ever been in a good movie or delivered a good performance? This was terrible. The Terminator he was in was terrible. The Divergent movies are garbage. I, Frankenstein is a mediocre action movie at best. Same for jack Reacher. Yet he keeps getting work. Now he's in Suicide Squad and that is by far the biggest worry I have about that movie.
@ultraguy8771
@ultraguy8771 9 жыл бұрын
+Zer0Hour17 Jack Reacher was great IMO.
@feathermanr7577
@feathermanr7577 9 жыл бұрын
Watch Spartacus, he was great in that series long before hollywood fucked him up.
@Inyourhollproject
@Inyourhollproject 8 жыл бұрын
Jai Courtney was actually okay in this movie, There are a few scenes where your actually can buy that it's his son. Just the whole "he's a spy" back story is bs and over the top. Example is when they figure out how to get into a building their dialogue back and forth where great. Everything else about this movie was fucking terrible, I am a huge Die Hard fan I grew up on them and I own 1-4 on bluray. Fucking pissed me off that they might of killed a franchise with this movie I am in hopes we get another Die Hard With A better director I don't know what the fuck the studio was thinking.
@Tyler.0v
@Tyler.0v 8 жыл бұрын
he wasnt bad in terminator, just... average
@lawlietjayson963
@lawlietjayson963 8 жыл бұрын
+Zer0Hour17 He was good in Jack Reacher. That's about it.
@BOOMDADDYSTRIKES
@BOOMDADDYSTRIKES 4 жыл бұрын
Bro I’ve been following you for almost your entire KZbin career and I’ve been binging your reviews recently....and I’ve come to realize that you haven’t reviewed Live Free or Die hard? Maybe I’m blind but I went through your die hard reviews. If you haven’t I’d love to see you do one. Awesome job as always!
@arish_xo
@arish_xo 4 жыл бұрын
For thos who watched brooklyn nine nine Jake:its going to be alright..dont worry. Charles:but jake,you said the same thing about die hard 5!! Jake:oh no...its not going to be alright
@Valelacerte
@Valelacerte 4 ай бұрын
Apple TV offer a deal on all 5 Die Hard movies, but the fact that I remembered nothing about Die Hard 5 dissuaded me from going for it. There were a lot of very unnatural action scenes where John McClane’s mouth or face were not visible and yet we heard him shouting and cursing. I did wonder whether some of the loss of John McClane’s personality might have been due to early signs of Bruce Willis’ cognitive problems as well as poor screenwriting, direction and production. After all, when Willis’ early retirement was announced due to aphasia, it was also revealed that work colleagues had been concerned about his decline for years.
@joshualopez311
@joshualopez311 10 жыл бұрын
A-team wasnt that bad its a good time no alcohol requiered at least But the rest of the writer films NOOO
@Vujnovic634
@Vujnovic634 4 жыл бұрын
Die Hard 1- classic Christmas movie Die Hard 2- a good sequel Die Hard 3- the best one Die Hard 4- okay, I guess And that's it. They stopped making after the 4th one.
@lukeschroter9276
@lukeschroter9276 4 жыл бұрын
DHWAV is not better then die hard
@Vujnovic634
@Vujnovic634 4 жыл бұрын
That's your opinion.
@lukeschroter9276
@lukeschroter9276 4 жыл бұрын
Vujnovic634 I know it’s my opinion and I really liked Die hard 3 it’s actually awesome and I totally respect your opinion 😁
@robtardedllama323
@robtardedllama323 11 жыл бұрын
For some reason these in depth analysis videos are the most interesting movie reviews to me, but few people seem to do them often. Obviously they take more effort to make and I don't want an analysis of Piranha 3DD, but on major film releases, I wish you would do this more often, it was the Prometheus and Drive video that got me to subscribe
@ericberghorn8987
@ericberghorn8987 4 жыл бұрын
This is such an awful film, aside from all the technical flaws and terrible edits, there's no heart. It's hard to enjoy a film when even the actors look bored beyond belief. Id really like to see a well written sequel to put the series to rest, but it really doesn't seem like Bruce Willis has any interest in revisiting the role (or really any others, he's looked so bored for awhile) so even if it was an impressive film, I wouldn't want to see another performance like this. It feels so phoned in. Oh well, they were fun while they lasted and we got some really good films.
@NormalLee67
@NormalLee67 8 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this video shortly after it came out. Weird that I'm just now re-discovering your channel.
@tobyroyson9336
@tobyroyson9336 9 жыл бұрын
they need to just end the franchise already Willis has gotten too old anyway.
@arbhall7572
@arbhall7572 9 жыл бұрын
+Toby Royson that and he really just dosnt give a fuck anymore.
@sintech
@sintech 8 жыл бұрын
+Arbhall McDougall He probably should pair up with Danny Glover and spits out "We're too old for this shit" every now and then
@aryankaushik9346
@aryankaushik9346 8 жыл бұрын
+Arbhall McDougall I think Willis stopped caring after die hard 4 and looper... And some parts of 4 were questionable.
@MrGonzo-xj2wk
@MrGonzo-xj2wk 6 жыл бұрын
Too old, as well as greedy and lazy!
@Lilianamarie999
@Lilianamarie999 5 жыл бұрын
Alan Rickman and Jeremy Irons are cousins IRL Two best villain accents ever.
@alexsc7187
@alexsc7187 10 жыл бұрын
In Skip Woods defence Swordfish is a pretty good film. Well thats what I thought anyway it has problems but still pretty enjoyable. Im not defending Die Hard 5 just saying that Swordfish isnt that bad.
@AlexAceves1994
@AlexAceves1994 9 жыл бұрын
I consider Swordfish as my favorite guilty pleasure movies of the summer.
@Godsoe
@Godsoe 6 жыл бұрын
The A Team was pretty good as well. Totally underrated
@SPEEDPAINTER1
@SPEEDPAINTER1 6 жыл бұрын
I was one of the concept designers of Live Free or Die Hard. Glad you liked it. Worked really hard on that one!
@DOA220
@DOA220 6 жыл бұрын
16 blocks should've been the plot to Die hard 4!!
@mantistoboggan5171
@mantistoboggan5171 4 жыл бұрын
on board for the first 15 minutes..........what an endorsement!
@yohanalexander2850
@yohanalexander2850 9 жыл бұрын
Great analysis Chris. I felt something ( or everything) is lost when i saw this movie, and you can describe them well. Just an idea but I hope you can make an analysis video about comparison between Guardians of Galaxy and Jupiter Ascending. Both are space operas and filled with over the top ideas, but you can see how different the audiences responded to those movies.
@bongobingo3967
@bongobingo3967 8 жыл бұрын
KZbinr steals other KZbinr's title DING!
@StudioLPSproductions
@StudioLPSproductions 11 жыл бұрын
I like how you talk & explain. Your arguments are true. I agree. Well done "ChrisStuckmann".
@TheBookOfBryan
@TheBookOfBryan 10 жыл бұрын
For as long as I still have Die Hard 1-3, I don't mind seeing that beautiful bald fuck, flipping the bird to exploding helicopters in unnecessary sequels every few years.
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 7 жыл бұрын
5:44 "He may be an alien who came to study our reaction to ruined franchises." You know what? That would actually make a better-than-average premise for a movie. Sort of The Producers meets E.T.
@nicklockk
@nicklockk 9 жыл бұрын
Where are the "Ding's"?
@bdr113080
@bdr113080 9 жыл бұрын
I agree, i LOVED the Die Hard movies, I thought Live Free or Die Hard was going to be a let down but that movie was awesome! Seeing how they did so well with LFODH i really went in to the theater so excited to see Die hard 5 and thinking I was going to be telling all my friends how great it was. I left the theater let down feeling let down and never talked about the movie with anyone.
@kevinkwok3460
@kevinkwok3460 8 жыл бұрын
Wait This isn't CinemaSins
@GingerZombie29
@GingerZombie29 4 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness.
@night-seeker666
@night-seeker666 4 жыл бұрын
@@GingerZombie29 I second that.
@danielvelker619
@danielvelker619 4 жыл бұрын
What’s even more pathetic about this movie being rated “R” is that the unrated version of “Live Free Or Die Hard” has more F-Bombs then this movie. Live Free Or Die Hard’s unrated cut has 30 uses of the F Word while this “R Rated” Die Hard movie has only 15. Wow!
@ScrapComputer
@ScrapComputer 11 жыл бұрын
Whats the background music ? Can some1 pm me a link/name thanks :)
@chosenArchitec
@chosenArchitec 4 жыл бұрын
7 years & nobody told you the track?
@mariusarnt9443
@mariusarnt9443 4 жыл бұрын
@@chosenArchitec Lol
@ngcebokhomo957
@ngcebokhomo957 3 жыл бұрын
Let me know when you finally find out 😂😂
@iainjames03
@iainjames03 Жыл бұрын
Just some of the stupid things in this movie (besides the action - cos that's ridiculous from start to finish): John hijacking a flatbed truck _to chase after and try to get the attention of his son while his son is being chased by mercs._ John thinking something is fishy about the daughter _with zero evidence_ None of the goons spotting Jack's knife _even though at least one goon is behind him AND John keeps glancing down at it_ A helicopter pilot _being able to spot two people running through a dimly lit building and tarp-covered scaffolding SO accurately as to be able to follow them with a mounted gun, only to give up and fly off as they become sitting ducks in a dumpster._ The baddies all wandering around Chernobyl in _full hazmat suits_ while John and Jack just load up with some light body armour _and a leather jacket_ That _needlessly silly key_ to open the vault The baddies have a magical spray that _renders highly radioactive weapons grade uranium completely safe in an instant (and presumably, by extension, makes it totally useless, too...?)_ It also somehow renders _THE ENTIRE SITE OF CHERNOBYL_ radiation-free... The secret end-villain shoots a guy in the head at point blank range _and then calmly shoots his body FIVE MORE TIMES as it lies there on the floor_ The main merc's men decide to switch to help the secret end-villain _immediately as soon as their boss is killed_ The secret end-villain is able to synchronise a call to his rival _at the exact moment a hired assassin comes in to kill him_ The daughter and her henchmen open fire on John and Jack with automatic weapons _while daddy is right there in front of them_ The daughter just _straight-up kamikazes a helicopter_ into a building.
@jamesmors9912
@jamesmors9912 9 жыл бұрын
Die Hard 5 is dead to me. And I still can't figure out why so many people like Die Hard 4? It wasn't an absolute train wreck like number 5. But it is a huge piece of shit. Someone actually did ask me to explain the plot of that one to them. And what I came up with was: A bunch of NEERRRDS! Hired gullible NEERRRDS! To steal computer programmy thingy mabobs from I don't know or care. And then Mcclane goes to save a NERD! from the other NEERRRDS! Then they fly to an even bigger(and actual) NERDS! House for exposition. Then they go to a power station for reasons? And fight some more NEERRDS! And then they fight the last NERD! And Mcclane's daughter falls in love with his sidekick NERD! The end. Also, I just remembered how utterly confusing and illogical it was that the French speaking NERDS! Were speaking French to the English speaking NERDS! And vice versa, throughout and they understood each other? Huh.
@wojtek5385
@wojtek5385 5 жыл бұрын
Well, new technologies and devices were always a part of Die hard films - the screen in Nakatomi lobby ('cute toy'), and the computer genius opening the vault for Gruber, the tech guy-sidekick in Die hard 2, alarm system, Simon's traps, and Samuel L. Jackson as an electrician/store owner in Die hard 3. In Die Hard 4 they got into the first row. It was a completely new type of danger that McClane faced. And I loved Gabriel's line how outdated McClane was for him. The idea with 'nerds' (by the way, a little more respect for these guys would be advisable) speaking French and Italian was an obvious callback to henchmen speaking German in previous movies. And there was the same problem - 'Shoot the glass' had to be said both in German and English. I really liked part 4 - it fits perfectly to the style of previous films, refers to them (elevator shaft, tunnel, walkie-talkies), has the most intelligent and unexpected use of 'Yippie kay yay' line, and still delivers sth new. + Lucy McClane was fantastic. And of course, part 5 is terrible.
@McCelt81
@McCelt81 8 жыл бұрын
3:38 Polish Subtitles - WOW, that's something i did NOT expect to find here :)
@bazantsaq9439
@bazantsaq9439 4 жыл бұрын
yeap, noticed it too:)
@doritochipgamer474
@doritochipgamer474 5 жыл бұрын
Remember when Bruce Willis cared about his roles. He is caring more these days with David Dunn and Death Wish.
@rodwooz
@rodwooz 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your opinions on this crappy sequel! I also felt the script lacked winks to previous films! For instance, McClane constantly mentions being on vacation, but misses an opportunity to say that "making fists with your toes" can relieve jetlag. It's minor, given the horrible filmmaking, but it shows even more that the studio just didn't care.
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