A Look Behind GTA 5's Weird Gameplay Design

[@justGesha]

Few useful links to mods I used and one source of info: gist.github.com/justGesha/037c850f1b38acaf94e90b28138c931f Posting it here cause barely anyone reads the description anyway 😅

[@Laminity]

Great, thanks!

[@Albertrossy]

the police are good at getting you in that 7/11 rooms inside even if u hide in the back room

[@audi_5]

I've never, and I mean NEVER seen a pedestrian stealing a car.

[@Joepage69]

It’s the algorithm that cares about your upload schedule not people, people care about the quality of your videos. It’s people that come back and watch your videos each time.

[@Joepage69]

The algorithm can only put your video in front of random people. That is the only power it has over you.

[@muhammadfadhilnurhafizwang7932]

I find it baffling that they replace crouch button with a "stealth" button but they only allow us to be stealthy on certain missions, while on any other situation, killing one NPC will alerts everyone in the area of our position

[@unocualqu1era]

Wait until you find out that in RDR2, a masterpiece in many ways, has a stealth crouch button that has absolutely no purpose: if you fire an arrow or throw a knife, everyone and their mother will spot you and start shooting. And yet, it works with animals... and in some missions. But not against NPC's in freeplay. WHY?

[@fredster594]

​@@unocualqu1era Tbf, at least RDR2s "stealth mode" is crouching.

[@AverageAlien]

Ok cool the rest of the game is perfect so what

[@kontenterrorist2449]

Stealth makes the rest of the GTA5/RDR2 movement system look non-clunky in comparison. It gets even worse in GTA Online, where stealth approaches in certain heists are so RNG-dependent it's not funny anymore. And yet Rockstar North had shown itself to be fully capable of creating a stealth game: Manhunt.

[@Mewtwo_150]

@@unocualqu1era Why? Because you killed someone in a public area! If you kill someone in the forest or something, nobody will notice it was you (if it's a group, they'll look for you but won't know it's actually you)

[@JayTeeAyy]

If a tree falls in the forest and no one around it hears it, did it make a sound? Well yes, the police in GTA 5 did, and they will give you a 6 star wanted level

[@justGesha]

💀

[@ketaminepoptarts]

unrealistic, everyone knows that trees are completely indestructible in gta 5

[@manboy4720]

illegal forestry is a very serious crime in los santos.

[@KaitouKaiju]

Whoops, we don't even have 6 star wanted levels anymore

[@FurryWrecker911]

But 6 star wanted levels aren't a thing in GTA 5. It's the only one where the cap is at 5.

[@DarkViperAU]

Great video man! Especially the editing, learned a lot of interesting stuff. 7:22 If you get out of your vehicle in some place crowded and hang around, someone can eventually get in it and drive away. I think police can steal vehicles if they lose their car in order to chase you down. There is also the random event where the criminal points a gun at you and steals your car. I wouldn't consider any of these to be 'random events' like what you are asking after though, so yeah I don't think I have ever seen it either.

[@nlrenzo9432]

Mister viper himself

[@nlrenzo9432]

Matto !!! how ya doing..?

[@placeholder7852]

I'm so happy you saw this😍

[@bikerlad3138]

It’s like online when you steal a car and get a bounty straight after not sure why they implemented that feature

[@bmprimer7809]

jesus 9 mins ago

[@shizumeru_]

10:53 When GTAO brought out vehicle exports, I swear this modifier was ramped up. This is because your payout is dependent on vehicle health, so more crashes=less money=higher chance of buying shark cards

[@michaelstraw4230]

Nah I remember playing GTA V when it came out on ps3 and cars would still literally go on the wrong side of the road to hit you

[@KingMacintosh2]

@@michaelstraw4230 They do in OG story mode as well. In fact at least on PC, it's gotten slightly BETTER, NOT worse. The op is conspiracy-theorizing that a game that frustrates people is leading them to buy microtransaction services, which the reality is most MT services are purchased by NEW players, almost always one time to jumpstart their experience.

[@KingMacintosh2]

@Belarusian Barbecue Enjoyer Conspiracy hive-minded Gen Z BS with zero basis in reality. The peds basically turn without looking and, in story mode, are good at actually following traffic lights, which the player is most usually going to run. It is there to cause random crashes, and is on purpose to add to the element of frustration and ridiculousness that LS has, in comparison to the real life LA. Also it was been explained that the direction NPCs dive in to AVOID you when you GO AT THEM HEAD ON is simply the OPPOSITE direction they first spotted you flying at them at, not the best direction to avoid you. Also, poor hardware like console or AMD is going to make the experience worse. While the converse conspiracy is that GTA IV is MORE realistic, this actually proves that GTA V is more "realistic" (which in some regards, it IS). And cutting people off is very common in the West coast. However, nothing holds a candle to how bad the NPCs can drive in GTA IV. In V, the mechanics are at least alerted so if you run into them or they into you (rarer), and you don't die, then they stop and basically make it easy for you to steal their car.

[@KingMacintosh2]

Well, it wasn't.

[@carcrashjayson]

Confirmation bias

[@coralimes3074]

one weird thing ive noticed about gta 5 is that police seem to just be constantly aware of your exact location at all times. for example, if you hide in a spot where you would never be seen no matter where they looked, they walk straight towards you and jump right in as if they already knew you were supposed to be there. the same happens during chases, theyll always spawn right next to you as if they know where you are, even when theyre supposed to be searching for you

[@HeadHunter697]

Which is such a far cry from GTA IVs police, where if you hid cleverly enough, the police would search your surrounding area, going into alleyways and such but wouldn't find you and eventually give up, but police in GTA V know exactly where you are no matter how good you hide. You could be on top the Maze Bank tower and they still come and find you.

[@oddballskull1941]

You can literally watch them spawn in if you skyfall on 5 stars

[@coralimes3074]

@@HeadHunter697 ive had police literally climb into hiding spots that they shouldnt even know exist after theyve completely lost sight of me, they genuinely just go directly towards you. theyre not even trying to hide it

[@cupcakecomrade2378]

its a "scent feature" (Cause apparently they took the meaning of dogs being police officers too litearlly) if you hang in one location for too long they will all IMMEDIATELY be directed to your exact location, its like 30 seconds of hiding. its so stupid, whats the point of trying to hide when they'll instantly know where i am BECAUSE im hiding

[@nickrustyson8124]

Not true actually, you can hide in a lot of locations in GTA 5, it's more so when you're out in the open or when they're next to you they notice you

[@catstation2]

V is such a bizzare entry in the franchise, yes it's probably the most iconic and to some, the best one. But damn some of these development choices kind of ruin it a little.

[@justGesha]

Right? Somehow it's both technically superior and 'mechanically' inferior to everything before it. I can't quite explain it.

[@kontenterrorist2449]

@@justGesha They toned down the car and ragdoll physics yet somehow managed to make movement feel less responsive than it did in San Andreas or IV.

[@Sanjay-fg8qh]

@@justGesha I don't know, If it's true or not, but some gta players said that the reason gta 5 has inferior mechanics compared to gta 4 because they had tone a lot of stuff due to hardware limitations of PS 3 and Xbox 360. R* traded good gameplay mechanics and AI for big open world and graphics.

[@Mewtwo_150]

@@Sanjay-fg8qh Rockstar toned it down because people complained about it too much Your friends call you too much? Let's dumb it down! It's completely optional now! The driving feels like driving a tank and a boat at the same time? Let's make cars actually responsive and turnable in corners! Ragdoll physics? They didn't look natural, let's make it more *realistic* Yeah as much fun as GTA IV was like 15 years ago, it's completely outdated compared to most things from V. (Also do NOT mention the story. Both of them have their ups and downs, but are both good and bad in their own ways)

[@heavenlanes5598]

@@Mewtwo_150 I always felt like V was developed based on fan feedback. You always exit the car after turning off the engine regardless if you press or hold the enter button since players would always turn off the engine in IV for some reason.

[@troxx2393]

V's map always did feel a little lifeless and i never knew why, this makes perfect sense as the reason

[@NotUp2Much]

It's lifeless because over half of the map is an empty stretch of land, not many interiors, and generic npcs at every corner. In other words, it's an open world game.

[@MikyleY]

@@NotUp2Much yeah, even compared to some of the older gtas, the map is may be huge but completely devoid of any interiors or unique places/activities

[@troxx2393]

@@MikyleY I often find myself getting on online for 30 minutes then leaving because theres just so little to do outside of heists and grinding the same cargo over and over,it doesnt even pay off cause theres nothing to do with that money except pvp in public lobbies.

[@kontenterrorist2449]

@@NotUp2Much RDR2 is even emptier than GTA V yet that map feels much more lively. At least it doesn't feel as dead as Metal Gear Solid V's map (brilliant game despite that flaw)

[@Mewtwo_150]

Honestly every GTA game has this problem. Probably because once you finish literally everything there's nothing to do. So you're now stuck on an island in the middle of the ocean with a bunch of lifeless NPCs

[@GameSourceGTA]

animals reporting crime is crazy 💀 this video is already a classic, excellent work!

[@goatslayer3160]

I mean Franklin can talk to dogs, why can't cops?

[@agrippa2012]

Oblivion had the same problem with horses. Players could be reported for stealing horses by the horses themselves 😅

[@OGuiBlindao]

Cow: "MOOO MOM OM OM MOOOO" Cop: "He did what? CALL THE FUCKING MILITARY!"

[@LHGaming25]

The lack of gang violence among street gang members is also what I noticed while playing GTA 5. Back when I played GTA 3 I remember how there were separate territories for each gang and there would be shootouts starting if they cross the territory For example If you brought Leone mafias near the Triads then they would start gunfight or fist fight with each other it was hilarious to watch just stand there and watch all the rage on street between different gangs I hope they bring something like this back in GTA 6.

[@migueeeelet]

Something I always find amusing in San Andreas is when a ballas in a car would accidentally cruise into Grove territory, and the grove members would start shooting at the car or run to pull the ballas out to kill him. Happens a lot in the frontiers between territories.

[@nameynamename3758]

​@granttodd3118i guess the point is each of the gangs went soft and are less violent. they refer to the 90's like those were the crazy days

[@Deivid-bn6yw]

It’s weird because the factions in the game are coded to attack each other but it’s something you have to force the game to do itself. If you go to LS while Martin Madrazo is hunting you, when his hitmen spawn you can just drive to grove street and the NPC’s will start attacking each other, but it’s not a dynamic event in the game it’s something you to go through the effort of creating yourself which is such a shame 😊

[@SL4PSH0CK]

me guessing for its scale, putting all the details from its predescessors would be demanding on hardware resource. remidns me of even opening interiors and adding business mod in GTAV tanks fps

[@AE_FILM0]

ngl, i do think gta v is pretty good and all, but rockstar really did make some pretty strange decisions when developing it. like, aircraft in the game actually have some pretty good deformation. however, you mostly never see it because planes will explode if you even nudge something slightly. stealing the large jet from lsia is incredibly challenging before getting a hanger, because taxiing means that a police car or two will probably run into your landing gear, which pretty much means instant death. and can i talk about the explosions? explosions honestly feel so much less powerful than in gta iv. gta iv had massive explosions with flaming flying debris, it’s awesome! not the case in v, helicopters will have one tiny explosion and then just fall down split in two, it doesnt even look destroyed. even sa was better than that, when helicopters were hit with an rpg, they would produce tons of smoke and explosions, they would start tumbling down, then when they hit the ground there would be tons of explosions and an actual destroyed looking helicopter, with so much fire surrounding. gta v plane crashes also suck, if you nosedive into terrain you will legitimately just stop in place and explode in the most nonsensical areas. the cockpit? wings? vertical stabilizer? why didnt the entire plane explode? honestly probably would have been better if they split all the main plane components (wings, horizontal and vertical stabilizers, fuselage..) then split those parts into fragments that would either just be gone or intact depending on where your plane crashed. anyway, great video gesha, welcome back!

[@EBTS-3]

Yeah exactly, in GTA 4 you could break off the tail section of the Annihilator and continue controlling it in a new way before crashing, it 5 the whole thing just goes *pop*

[@Mewtwo_150]

Bro what do you mean the explosions don't look good in GTA V E&E gave them 3 more particles

[@vl2796]

and its the same old explosion effect for all of them

[@AE_FILM0]

@@Mewtwo_150 i didnt say they didnt look good, just that they felt so much less powerful than those in say, gta iv. i also dont play e&e, so.

[@AE_FILM0]

@@EBTS-3 lol i love doing a trick where you bash the maverick’s tail on the building and just fly while it’s hopelessly spinning. like the big tower in broker to the airport, very fun lol

[@garvy_]

It always shocked me how GTA 5 downgraded a lot of GTA 4 mechanics :/

[@iwtdl_]

Don't forget that GTA V originally released on the PS3 and X360. Compromises had to be made.

[@garvy_]

@@iwtdl_ I mean, they kept on milking GTA 5 so they could have easily added new gameplay mechanics for new generation hardware

[@fredster594]

​@@iwtdl_ I think the biggest problem with GTA V is that it got released on the Xbox 360/PS3 to begin with. If the game launched with the 8th generation of consoles, then mechanically GTA V would not be as strange and unfinished as it is.

[@iwtdl_]

@@fredster594 That's true. I love GTA V but it would've been great if they delayed it by one year to release it onto PS4 and Xbox One. The game would be a lot better.

[@doppelminds1040]

The Skyrim treatment

[@The_Isaiahnator]

Your frequent use of examples is what elevates this from an opinion piece to serious criticism. Good vid.

[@whatever57010]

03:06 is also supported by specific audio files made for these crimes

[@aiber3303]

The intentional crashing could be the game trying to slow you down so that you don't outrun the level loading/ LOD change. But there's definitely an argument to be had in Online; in the import/export missions to be exact, where every dent is accounted for, the driving of the AI is just brutal.

[@Chick2106]

​@@narutosenpai7017no its not

[@Jaymez2012]

Man, I haven't played GTA 5 since 2016 and I still remember how annoying the traffic was in that game and how it felt like NPC would intentionally try to crash into you. My most vivid evidence of this is when you're getting ready to cross an intersection and a car would significantly and not-so-subtly speed up and slow down just to cut off your path through the intersection. That shit never failed to piss me off. So, I'm glad this video confirms to me that I wasn't crazy about it all those years ago.

[@OGuiBlindao]

So true, you can be driving perfectly, and then some random npc teleport in front of you and stops you, even more annoying if youre trying to do sell missions, running from the cops, gang members, etc

[@monkeyconta]

@@OGuiBlindaoexactly when i’m doing vehicle cargo missions there’s ALWAYS an npc trying to hit me. once there was a bus that came full speed in front of me while i was crossing an intersection and i lost like 3k value of the car

[@yume5338]

This video made me realize just how ambitious GTA 5 was and how much content was likely lost to lack of resources or time. It looks like the game was supposed to have so, so much more, just like GTA 4 did. Makes you wonder how much content we saw in the GTA 6 leak will even make it into the game, if they don't scrap everything because it got leaked.

[@krishiebobbybill3209]

The world needs you to remaster GTA IV like how you did San Andreas. You're a legend and we love you man 💕

[@krishiebobbybill3209]

@Trevorpool rob didn't do it while keeping original vision the main priority

[@ronyx69]

I think it would be wise to wait for iCEnhancer 4.0 to get its final public release for that.

[@UltimateSpiderMan]

@Trevorpool it's catsmackaroo not rob

[@UltimateSpiderMan]

@@ronyx69 and revive

[@headshotmaster138]

Digging the emo pic. Reminds of the 2000s when it was trending.

[@DukeWooze]

The AI can also change their rate of fire for some of the guns. I've seen them use AK's like miniguns and pretty much almost kill me from full armor in a single burst.

[@NewRodin]

That's especially annoying during survivals, causing a minigun burst to be an instant death in a higher wave. Also really, really noticeable with those damn Merryweather dudes, who also take around 10 headshots before they finally die (they don't even wear helmets like, ever!)

[@DedAlexFive]

They also somehow always hit you in the head when doing that

[@zephyrprime8]

GTA online very noticeably boosts the stats of enemies especially in newer updates.

[@xannymanny9754]

Bro don’t get me started on Motorcycle gang members with uzis. Them things are straight laser beams. They’ll snipe me out of a helicopter in one burst

[@DukeWooze]

@@xannymanny9754 Gotta be quick to take out those guys. Usually a burst will throw them off the bikes. But yeah it's wild how accurate they are.

[@mrjayden585]

Awesome video. Been working with the in-game files modding and im glad someone realized at 11:00 the SWAT AI is broken af inside interiors. There are interior flags put in the game which if removed fixes the AI, not sure if its an unfinished feature or what but its fixable.

[@justGesha]

Thank you! But quite the contrary actually, I should be thanking you because your SWAT Interior Fix is where I first learned about this bug. Thanks to that mod I was able to film the intro for the NOOSE sequence. I've also linked it in the pinned comment.

[@SpaceMonkeyBoi]

Funny enough, GTAs drivers are pretty realistic. Most people in my area don't even seem to comprehend what a turn signal is.

[@sman14GTA]

In regards to a civilian stealing a vehicle, it does happen in GTA V, but feels more like a scripted function to clear the road and save memory. Leave a car in the road, let it block traffic and cause congestion and a random ped will take the car and drive off. The thing is though, it will be a random ped of any kind (not even a criminal ped) that takes off with it.

[@justGesha]

Interesting, I somehow have never seen that happen despite having played a ton of GTA 5. That's the thing with the random events in this game, they are so freaking subtle that you don't even feel like they make a difference to the game's world.

[@UltimateSpiderMan]

​@@justGesha gta 5 is generally lifeless

[@Nonamesplease]

I’ve had an box steal my car during a mission and drive off with it. I had to chase him down kill him and get my car back. It was actually cool thought because I had a tracker of him on my mini as it was my personal car.

[@ChancellorCarmine]

One time me and my friends we're in a session together and he began moving in his terrorbyte. We didn't notice anything cause none of us were near him until we heard him ask "Who's in my terrorbyte?" none of us said yes and eventually he got out and found out that some AI woman got into the driver seat and began driving around.

[@Nonamesplease]

@@ChancellorCarmine lol 😆 honestly I was so dumbfounded when it happened to me. Its pretty cool tbh that something so random can change up the scenario in a mission.

[@BDozer666]

A game with a ton of potential that due to laziness and or intentional bad design ends up being far worse than previous games. What a shame.

[@NBA_Lucky]

F are u talking about? It's literally the greatest game of all time

[@aquaxyston]

@@NBA_Lucky All time? That very questionable

[@BigPSFredo]

Oh, just like GTA IV?

[@TheAandJStudio]

​@@NBA_Lucky Its really not homie

[@ONomeManeiro]

@@NBA_Lucky April Fools was 2 days ago. But seriously, it was the greatest game of the X360/PS3 era. And that's it. You can't keep a game from that time running for 10 years with half assed QOL updates and still call it the greatest

[@ajorsomething4935]

What really sucks about the broken stealth is how many missions have a "stealth option" but make it impossible to actually do it. Like putting in way too many npcs so you cannot sneak past them, or just randomly breaking your cover for no reason. Also, I am certain that enemies in online have way better health and aim than ones in single player.

[@titanusgodzillaa4274]

stealth in online gotta be the worse, 1 npc sees you and everyone immediately knows now

[@DedAlexFive]

I can solve the "online enemies having better aim than the player" mystery for you: sometimes they shoot their weapons faster than they're supposed to so that you'll take much more damage in a shorter amount of time. Im sure you probably played Survival back then and had an enemy melt your health bar in a second. Well, thats why. Might be a tinfoil hat conspiracy from me now, but Im pretty sure they did it so that it would take people more time to complete missions and events online, pushing you towards Shark Cards to skip frustration. A common mobile gaming tactic.

[@hub_1.15]

That is a well known bug where an npc with an automatic Weapon empties their whole mag in around a second with perfect accuracy It happens all the Time in older missions but seems to be way less frequent in new ones

[@SL4PSH0CK]

seeing how Rockstar mastered scripting, theyre being lazy i guess(?). was online like that since its given to make the the game more grindy and make the game longer, same time as speedrunnin misisons give less reward for shark cards

[@doonishsan]

The deformation is still in the game but it's hard to get it to work now. You need a huge vehicle to be able to deform a small vehicle. Like one of those construction vehicles.

[@PuffedMuffin]

or a tank

[@thatspella]

You need strong impacts to achieve that, like hitting an object at very high speed or smashing the car with very heavy vehicles.

[@bbuny10]

Plus I love the armor but I hate how it kinda takes away from the deformation of crashing and whatnot

[@EBTS-3]

If you hit the same spot on a car with the Atomizer gun you can get some surprisingly good deformation without exploding the car. Its still as good but needs a lot more impact now and the mid section doesnt bend, they have the density of scale model cars

[@Mewtwo_150]

Every car added before last gen (PS4/One) has intense deformation depending on the impact. Starting with Freemode Events for some reason, Rockstar decided to low the intensity of the deformation. Leading theory is copyright but I highly doubt that.

[@relewave]

if i'm not mistaken, the pedestrians reporting crimes feature is probably an actually finished feature from GTA: III that was cut during the development processes. according to erorcun, if you commit a crime in that game, pedestrians will reach the nearest pay phone and report the crime they just witnessed and the game will give you a wanted level. it's fun to realize this feature is actually properly done this time but only after 12 years... or not.

[@RayGun4200]

Interesting seeing you here

[@relewave]

i love this guy man, what do you mean

[@RayGun4200]

@@relewave fair enough I was just watching the vid scrolling through the comments to find you lol

[@relewave]

glad to see a friend 'round here

[@matushka__]

The report feature is in all HD games since IV.

[@KodeKun]

Nice vid! I also discovered that in GTA V cops actually know where you last were for 20 seconds, it seems like it should be impossible but they always find you, meaning you should either hide in a hard to access spot or keep on the move.

[@goldbullet50]

You just have to change your hiding spot more than once, or steal a car, or go to a bush. It's a race against time, and every time you change your hiding spot, you are buying yourself more time, until the wanted level disappears.

[@KodeKun]

@@goldbullet50 I know it’s just that seems kinda rigged cause imagine you sit there thinking you’re safe but the cops come out of nowhere and you get shot in the head they should at least make it more subtle

[@zephyrprime8]

At least in GTA online, the cops always know where you are even if they don't see you. You can move as far as you want with the cops not seeing you, even if you're hiding on the other side of Los Santos from where they last actually saw you, they will still approach the location you're currently at. Like, if you're last seen at the casino and then go hide at the construction site, the cops will drive to the construction site and walk on foot to exactly where you are.

[@mab_8731]

Your videos are actually quite well made, I love the editing and effort. Keep it up, I didn't expect to stick around for so long on a seemingly random video :)

[@winlover37]

I've been waiting for someone to make this for YEARS. I felt like I was crazy when I tried talking about how broken/non-existent stealth is in this game. Not a big deal on its own, but the heists that use stealth are the most inconsistent and annoying missions in the game. Great video!

[@notashw1n]

holy shit I've always wanted a deep gameplay analysis of something about GTA V and here we are, thanks for your work

[@conflictkid0x16]

I’m glad you mentioned gangs and the lack of involvement in story and actual fighting

[@BilinmeyenBey]

For those who want to say that they're not random events, here are some more random events that occur in SA: Police chasing an Criminal Car, Police chasing an criminal on foot, Pedestrains talking randomly without knowing the other person or knowing the other person (this is the most random one because the talk always changes and response is random aswell), Removed but existing in a buggy state is the Street drunks have their own special animations and features, Police Helicopters flying over the city that is going for some kind of crime we don't know.....

[@markl5998]

I assume you mean san andreas

[@CinematicSeriesGaming]

High-quality video. Great job!

[@sentinel06]

The king has returned

[@goofygoober2382]

The car cutting you off can be really funny sometimes. Once i was driving down the highway in first person and basically reached an off ramp to exit the highway to somewhere. I remember the NPC infront of me just going spastic and swerving right to left until it crashed into me. I really wish I was recording that.

[@theraiden1018]

How is that funny? It’s a stupid thing to intentionally put into a GTA game where 99.9 of players are speeding

[@infernoing1884]

10:50 As far as I am concerned, this didn't use to be the case until the Vehicle Cargo Missions were added. Rockstar felt that delivery and source missions would be too easy, so to chip away at player's profits, they made cars swerve into you, so you would be forced to pay for repairs. I think that to keep parity between Online and Story Mode and to avoid raising suspicions, they chose to change both traffic systems and rewrote the game code

[@justGesha]

Yeah, I've seen people mention that it's far worse and more prevalent during Import/Export missions.

[@BDozer666]

Nah, there's a video "The most horrible police AI ever in GTA" showcasing this stuff happening back in the 360/PS3 days.

[@floorballl_]

@@BDozer666 Yep. But of course it's easier for people to go "brrr rockstar shark cards greedy" rather than thinking critically

[@YoungBasedChefBeezy]

@@floorballl_ now hold on, that doesn’t mean the argument has no merit because it does. A lot of gameplay tweaks and changes are definitely made with the intention of making the game tedious and pushing card sales. To believe otherwise is just… smooth brained tbh

[@the_motherfucker]

@@floorballl_ I've been looking for a new job lately, what is the payment like at Cockstar?

[@naswadkristhianson4358]

Never heard of your channel before but your quality, effort, dedication and much more has left me more than impressed! Keep it up!

[@skeet1144]

Wish you covered the npc random rapid fire bug + 100% accuracy

[@ControllerAkimbo]

This!!! They are able to insta laser you at full health and armor and kill you within seconds

[@AinzOoalGown2138]

​@@ControllerAkimbo that's just online, and it's not a bug either, Rockstar intentionally made it that way

[@madmann5872]

@@AinzOoalGown2138, yes it IS a bug. It's even in rdr2.

[@AinzOoalGown2138]

@@madmann5872 if it was a bug they would have fixed it long ago

[@madmann5872]

@@AinzOoalGown2138 yeah no, they only fix money glitches

[@Waffles_Syrup]

My theory on intentional car crashes is that they happen to slow the player down so that the map has time to load. Since it was released for ps3/360, if you went too fast on the road you could start running into map loading issues where the higher LODs didn't have enough time to load in.

[@ControllerAkimbo]

Hey gesha great video, I'm so glad you did tis as this game has some incredibly baffling game design that has just been ignored and instead praised, this doesn't even begin to scratch the surface, of NPCS with laser aim, aimbot etc

[@showbizcec4985]

This is really interesting stuff! I really hope the next entry in the series has much more realistic driving and car damage mechanics and the cops are much more realistic.

[@ginomctony6773]

I freaking KNEW the other drivers were out to get me when I'm flying 200mpg down the highway

[@escrows]

7:35 Pedestrians can in in fact steal other pedestrians vehicles, as well as your own if you carjacked them. DarkViperAU covered this in a facts and glitches series video. Basically, in any car that has 2 pedestrians in it, you can make the passenger get mad at the driver, run around the car, and carjack them lol. It's pretty funny to watch honestly.

[@Justin_Joy]

Gta 4's vehicle handling was horrendous, especially with motorcycles since they slide too much.

[@sircharcoalthegoat]

Things I noticed about GTA V's AI, both playing it and reading the files: • There is a small chance a jumbo jet will crash when entering Michael's safehouse. • When entering any safehouse, the chance of a spawned police chase increases greatly. • Wanted level thresholds are determined by a numerical meter, which resets when you die/lose the cops. Taking down helicopters gives the highest value to the meter. In this way it is possible to get 4 stars and have the dispatch send out NOOSE for punching someone if you're bordering the 4 star threshold. • NPCs in an area will have different 'moods', making them more likely to run away screaming or to simply speedwalk away if you are insulting them. • NPCs outside restaurants, bars, and landmarks are typically more aggressive if insulted and are more likely to fight the player. • Homeless NPCs walking on busy streets in richer neighbourhoods have a higher chance of being aggressive then when found elsewhere, like underneath the Olympic freeway, but only if you insult another NPC near to them, which usually is what results in aggression. Which is also true for my previous point. • All NPCs have recorded dialogues for different actions (greeting, agreeing, dismissive, telling a story, making a comment, threatening, insulting, etc.,), though you will never hear some of these without using mods to change the behaviour (female NPCs will basically never fight you unless glitched). When walking past two or more NPCs, they are programmed to either argue, with one 'winning' and the other walking away, with the winning one using the 'victory' dialogue, or one will simply tell the other stories or make a comment, the other NPC will play the 'agree' or 'dismissive' dialogue randomly.

[@nickrustyson8124]

Bit of a correction with the Female NPCs not fighting you, the rural female NPC you see in well the rural parts do have a chance of fighting you if insulted

[@pawemisztal3941]

@@nickrustyson8124 Also the female bodybuilders in the open air gym next to the Vespucci Beach will fight you if insulted or attacked

[@Salty_Wasser]

I believe the reason jumbojets explode outside Michael's is due to the pilots' despawning but not the planes

[@RobVice]

Really well done video! And gosh I just hate that intentional car crash thing so much

[@noahbender2147]

Need a pt2 this was very interesting and damn right the NPCs intentionally try to wreck you in my experience it's so blatantly obvious they made it like that pretty annoying

[@itsmehere1]

My man cannot upload such a banger like this and have the upload schedule he has, I NEED MORE, THIS WAS SO GOOD...

[@lucidlocomotive2014]

In GTA IV the “writhe” thing was so much better. It was actually permanent and they wouldn’t die unless you shot them continuously or shot them in the head. Otherwise they would writhe and try to get up occasionally and switch the side they are laying on and they would give voice lines begging for t their life and eventually sometimes they would get up and start limping away from the scene, or an ambulance would take them and drive away

[@LUXXEN-yx9hv]

so it’s unrealistic ppl get shot will die soon

[@meade5837]

Just found this channel but your editing style, writing, and content is top tier. Hope you make videos more frequently

[@GabeSlayer]

7:28 I remember that actually happened to me in GTA Online. I was doing the Tequila-la-la MC mission and I once I got out of the bar, I saw an NPC stealing not my car, BUT MY FUCKING HELICOPTER LMAO

[@ravysel1258]

Wow, what a beautiful cinematic shots!

[@raresage.]

Intentional crashes in GTA V are way less bad than they were in IV. At least those could be somewhat realistic as indecisive drivers changing their minds. But in IV driving over the bridges at high speeds would oftentimes result in every car swerving as hard as they could into the player direction. It looks unnatural and is so annoying. I don't understand the questionable design choices that plagues some of these games

[@BDozer666]

That's only on one bridge and that's because of the train on the tracks beneath it.

[@raresage.]

@@BDozer666 okay but that one bridge and i got real beef

[@L0C4L]

I was watching police chase a random pedestrian in GTA v on the Xbox 360 and I stopped traffic to watch. Next thing I know the dude being chased robs me for my bike and I was so caught off guard I didn't even chase him. The only thing I could think of was that it was somehow another player. It was the only thing that made sense to me, especially seeing as my only other GTA experience before was GTA IV and even though I never got far in it I'm fairly certain no random people ever robbed the player for their car.

[@L0C4L]

Also if you block a car from getting away and take a passenger out the vehicle the passenger will then steal the vehicle they were just taken out of and drive off. Robbing their friend and or family member they were riding with.

[@Billioncompany786]

Looks likes they didn't got the time to work of those stuff and thought to leave it as it is because they thought that they are not important things that will affect the game. Although they brought back those details in RDR2 which makes me believe that they will fix those issues in GTA 6

[@conemen1]

i just peeped this and your SA mod video and i wanna say one thing to you: you have a very effective understanding of how to utilize camera angles. i love it

[@aves4270]

I’m so glad this video was made. Gta 5 did enough to depart itself from what made rockstar titles unique. The game is so streamlined and player focused that nothing ever happens that isint predetermined. Once you finish the main story, it’s over. The world of Los santos stops being a world. It just becomes an interactive simulation of Los Angeles. A good game should put the player in a living world that exists outside of you. Not a world that revolves around the player.

[@titanusgodzillaa4274]

its literally still a unique rockstar game, it just doesnt do it as good as the others.

[@Foxfire_forty-nine]

You could say that for any of your other Rockstar titles. Vice City Liberty City Stories, IV, San Andreas

[@the_motherfucker]

@@Foxfire_forty-nine IV and San Andreas have flaws with that aspect too, but they're still good at that for what they are, and better than V at that aspect too. Surely they could've expanded on it with V Vice City is from the early days of the series and LCS is a low budget spinoff for a handheld console, if the latest game in the series, and also the highest budget game ever made can't beat them, then that's not a very good sign, is it?

[@MohammadOmar-k1h]

in terms of random events , Watch_Dogs 2 feels more alive. All the NPC's seems like they have a life of their own.

[@catsmackaroo]

Awesome video bro, bro!! Such a unique style & topic. 😇

[@justGesha]

Thanks, my homie 🤟

[@erykzysk3330]

Yoo it's cats

[@BlazingOwnager]

You actually knew some things about GTA I didn't, and that's rare (like the rooftop deformation thing!) Subscribed.

[@thedrbat9572]

I'm glad you made this video, the first time I actually played GTA 5 for myself was back in 2021 and I've only been watching videos of it since 2013, before 21, I played GTA 4 like crazy and the older gta games aswell, so when I played GTA 5 for the first time, all I could think was how crazy different it is from every other GTA game, from music in the background, to health system, to the removing of crouching, to the 5 stars instead of 6, the special ability system, the rectangular hud, the weapon and radio wheel, all just soooo weird to a classic GTA player, personally I think GTA 5 is a freak accident, it has such a different formula from the other GTA games that I bet if it wasn't for GTA online, it would be remembered as a really weird and insignificant GTA game.

[@croc6105]

Least retarded comment in this comment section. You're just another one of many biased fanboys that tries to make a distinction for this game when it's basically the same formula as the rest, several of the aspects you mentioned are more or less the same as basically every other GTA game and it's funny that you mention 4 which was criticized for the same thing back in the day, the thing is that that game was less of a GTA Game compared to the rest, 5 went back to the original direction of the series.

[@hicarodestrui]

Killing two random guys in the middle of desert in meelee, and earn 1 police star, were a thing that KILLED my immersion in this game. Since I knew that this happen, I start to see the police in this game with another eye (And in not a cool way) It still, the best game that I played, but there's a lot of room to improvement in the next game.

[@HaircombMan]

I don't think I've watched a GTA V video which actually shows the code in the game as evidence. Much more refreshing from the bunch who speculate.

[@daveynorton]

Exactly. Thats what made me click on the video.

[@amiramri3032]

I'm pretty sure once you reached 4 star wanted they increase cop accuracy even more

[@Sheep506]

9:57 do the NPC’s drive into you at higher speeds because Franklin has the slow time ability?

[@Lighthouse29501]

Watch dogs have a perfect stealth system that i would love to see in GTA it even have an amazing future called realistic difficulty u can access it of course in the difficulty settings it make the stealth even more better i highly recommend watch dogs for stealth lovers or if u want GTA but in a realistic logic

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

I thought nobody would bring this up. This is the biggest game of all time and barely anyone understands how it even works behind the scenes. Very peculiarly.

[@winterbeat13]

Very well edited and extremely informative. Thank you. That was a great video.

[@taquito_de_agua]

8:55 Oh, so that's why I crash so much. I thought I was a shitty at driving

[@buscadiamantes1232]

The intentional car crashes thing made me hate those driving NPCs so much, I sometimes ended up getting out of the car and shooting at whoever decided to switch from lane 1 to 7 because they saw a fast shiny car closing in to them. Like seriously, it's not even fun

[@imembridibuddha]

4:20 the color filter and hitmarker the second someone decides to die (especially without you even moving and shooting) is so cringe.

[@ItzYinzburgh]

well done video and it was in da vinci. great vid man!!!

[@callbettersaul]

Amazing video. Knew 90% of the things brought out, but still enjoyed it a lot. Good job! By the way, whatever57010 has a couple of videos of NPCs driving into him. A few clips there would make anyone 100% sure, that they indeed do it on purpose.

[@justGesha]

Thanks! His videos is where I actually saw the intentional crashes thing for the first time.

[@manvendrasingh299]

Glad that you're back :D!

[@Wertyber]

crazy to see how unfinished 5 really is

[@mario-mx9dm]

Please make more videos like this! I love seeing these types of analysis videos and this one is specially great, so please continue doing this kind of stuff! Me and a lot of people would appreciate it, I bet haha

[@NOT_____LATE]

I believe that the NPCs desire of cutting you the road might be something coming from the old-old gen versions of the game: possibly because at higher speeds the map would load slower and this wouldn't allow you to see the unloaded textures, by directly blocking you.

[@thirdhandlv4231]

Yea they do this in SA too, but from further away which is good as they change lane in about 1 second.

[@integralcialbay4633]

Happens in GTA 4 too

[@3headedsnake388]

@@integralcialbay4633Yeah I recently replayed GTA IV and was getting demolished. I feel like they do it really aggressively on the upscaled xbox version, hahaha they swerve to change lanes like they want insurance money

[@Squareheed]

After almost 10 years of GTA V I have noticed that the game is really unfinished in a lot of aspects and other things like the writing/acting of certain characters is just horrendously corny or bad altogether. But with the next GTA game taking so long to release, it gives me hope that all of the shortcomings GTA V has are rubbed out and the next entry to the series is as absolutely perfect as it can be.

[@Sharkmonger]

GTA V's traffic has a few issues that cause them to constantly jump in front of you. Rockstar never properly coded in the right of way for left turns - traffic will stop to allow left turns into Chumash's side roads for example, meaning that left turners will just blindly cut you off. There's also a vastly simplified movement system when traffic is outside of a specific distance threshold, which is why traffic sometimes just changes its mind when you're approaching an intersection and gets in your way. There's also seemingly weird scripting to allow things like right turn on red, and poorly mapped out traffic routes (which can be seen with mods) cause traffic to erratically move into turn lanes, and take absolutely nonsensical paths through intersections. The wide triangle intersections you see throughout Blaine County are really bad offenders for this. I think it's poor NPC/pathing design that causes so many of the collisions that people blame on the NPCs being coded to get in your way... aside from the traffic that rushes into intersections to block you, that seems to be totally intentional lol.

[@Samira_xp]

7:38 I have actually seen pedestrians steal vehicles both in GTA 5 and GTA online, but that required me to steal a vehicle first, exit it and stay near it for a while, after some time, a random pedestrian would run towards the vehicle, enter it and escape

[@abhinavkumarmishra5760]

Yesterday, I was playing as Trevor driving near the hills of Vinewood and a blue dot appeared on the map. I thought it was a random event so I stopped. However, it was a pedestrian that jacked my car and drove away😂. I’ve played the story mode 6 times with ~75% completion and it was the first time I saw something like this.😅

[@justGesha]

I guess it really is a rare occurrence. Still hilarious tho 😅

[@kontenterrorist2449]

this was super common in GTA 3/VC and I'm glad they brought it back

[@alejandropulidorodriguez9723]

This kind of gta v content with this level of production is almost never seen, so you have a new sub. Great job boss!

[@the-golden-duck]

HE IS BACK!!!! THE LEGEND

[@dubsdd2678]

Terrific vid, love these sorts of deeper dives

[@lolmetaknight]

Many peoples are calling GTA V's stealth a joke but I disagree, jokes at least have meanings.

[@amiramri3032]

No wonder when i kill Hikers in Mount gordo, i always get a wanted level, god damn bird

[@teorhus]

These are interesting finds, also thank you for explaining everything!

[@ZoofyZoof]

There's something missing from the video I'm upset wasn't mentioned. You cannot hide from police. It literally doesn't matter where you go. Hide in the most ridiculously hidden area possible - at least 1 officer will slowly walk to your direct location and find you.

[@BDozer666]

There's another old, long ass video that showcases it called "Grand Theft Auto V (PS3) - The most horrible police AI ever in GTA" Just skip to 17:08 if you do watch it as anything before that is either re-mentioned later in better detail, nitpicky or was also a thing in older games.

[@JaCrispy3060]

The tiny details like these make the difference between a great game and a perfect game

[@botlinemiami]

Hey dude, the whole segment with like the NOOSE Edit was sick!

[@dauzlee2827]

Npc injured and wasted system are also a downgrade compared to GTA 4 or even GTA SA. In GTA 4 when you hit npc with melee or gunshot on body parts until health goes zero, the npc will lie down appeared to be dead but actually still alive, and will wake up and run away albeit running injured. Npc will only die when, beaten too many times, headshot, burn alive etc. In GTA SA, it is almost the same except paramedics will arrive and revive only for those who "killed" by gunshot on non-head body parts, melee, run over by cars, probably explosions that don't decapitate the head. Paramedics cannot revive npc who are killed for the same reason from GTA 4, and obviously you can't revive people with severed heads. In GTA 5 this feature seems to have disappeared, and while there is paramedic, they are useless, they do nothing, they come just to observe the killed Npc and then return to hospital once they are done. This system fortunately reappears in Red Dead Redemption 2

[@thehorrornoobs5481]

I won’t forget the time I was on my bike next to a cop car and they suddenly just started shouting me lol

[@goat3096]

Great video. Please make more of these 🤲

[@user-xo3jw3hc6d]

GTA 4’s SWAT has tactics and charges

[@meowxgamingstuff]

Ah yes, quality content as always.

[@mrkinghimself9412]

Bro imagine being reported to the police by a cat 💀

[@senorlechuga8832]

I knew it. I knew something was off in the way this game worked. Replaying some old games I'm impressed at all the details, especially with the 3D era games. Burglars can actually steal your car in all games, and in GTA3 they even steal money off you on foot (and you can get it back too). Good citizen bonus in VC, pretty much everything in San Andreas... even VCS has gangs fighting against each other and taking their businesses. And you can see them in the middle of it sometimes. I just don't get why they downgraded this game so much. Also cars exploding upon landing on the roof. One of the dumbest things in this game by far

[@titanusgodzillaa4274]

old console limitations

[@Legion849]

@@titanusgodzillaa4274 Ok fanboy

[@hub_1.15]

​@@titanusgodzillaa4274no it aint lmao every other gta got 90% of these things great and all of them were on worse hardware

[@yoda3795]

It's annoying in every GTA that if you commit a crime with no witnesses you can get immediatley a wanted level and the police knows how you look like, what vehicle you use even if you are out of nowhere.

[@arandominternetperson4462]

13:30 So now I understand why on PS3 you can flatten cars with the tank but not on PC

[@victormartins01]

this man knows how to use directors mode