A MAX Injury Prone Wonderkid Squad | FM24 Experiment

[@Ameck161]

My prediction, due to injuries taking out starters, the managers will have no choice but to play every player, thus a more uniform development of the squad.

[@jayhuahua]

Not a bad prediction, quite accurate I think really

[@miguelquinto]

I have one for you, move the best "B teams" in Europe to another league/country and see how far they'll get and what difference will it make to the main club and country they're playing at. Btw, great content!

[@goldenflower5035]

Lovely idea!

[@jayhuahua]

This is a great idea, sadly a complex one that I fear is beyond my skills with the editor. I'll have a look though and see if I can work it out

[@dmur.]

@@jayhuahuaa way around it could be to just transfer the squad of the B teams to the teams you want?

[@jefft9426]

Keep up the great work, Jay! As a novice to FM24, your videos are really helping me understand the dynamics. Cheers!

[@jayhuahua]

Lovely to hear this feedback. I'll be honest though, as a seasoned FM player I'm learning just as much. My perception of certain things is changing the way I think, and I know I'm not alone in that

[@ewan6752]

Is the conclusion, injury proneness doesn't impact development too much, but if you have a whole squad you'll have too many injured players during games, that there is a risk you'll end up running out of substitutes and therefore your team won't perform.

[@jayhuahua]

I think thats possibly the takeaway from this. Interesting they did progress really well isn't it

[@handemhan]

Maybe it's less about ability and more about achievements. I.e. Jack Wilshere had all the ability in the world, but constant injuries meant be didn't play enough and his manager couldn't rely on him, so his career dwindled

[@umuterdonmez6995]

Wow wasn't expecting to see them develop so well, im not scared of this anymore thanks to you🙌Sugardaddy test, 4 identical teams, managers, reputation etc. with 4 different sugardaddy types

[@jayhuahua]

Yeah injury proneness isn't as scary as I thought either. Hmmm i have a couple of TV deal/Sugar Daddy experiments in the pipeline. I may visit this after though 👍

[@slotcarracing5302]

Never seen 'does not train' before. This has actually made me think its worth taking on the odd injury prone great prospect, just make sure I have a steady replacement on the bench every week.

[@jayhuahua]

I saw it on an experiment where I made a player play on until he was like 70 last FM... when I say that it sounds mental, but it was a fun video I seem to recall 🤣

[@randomname9949]

The good thing about this is that you got lots of players reaching a great CA, as the good players have a higher chance of injury and the AI coaches are forced to rotate. What i have noticed is that if a player gets an injury then that injury has a high chance of coming back, so even if a player gets only minor injuries he can still have a nughtmare

[@jayhuahua]

I think that's the key takeaway, recurring niggles is what constitutes being injury prone

[@acleedsunited]

This was an interesting experiment. It impacted them more than I thought it would.

[@jayhuahua]

The result was as expected for me, but their growth was surprising

[@eeeeeee3245]

‘does not train’ is specifically for a few days after he plays in a match hence why he still got some training injuries

[@jayhuahua]

Ohhhhh ok makes sense, kinda makes my little rants look stupid now haha. Oh well thanks for educating me buddy 👍

[@michaelfisher6745]

I think you should do dirtniness next, see if there is a major difference with the amount of suspensions

[@jayhuahua]

I love this as an idea. Think someone else suggested it too. There seems to be an appetite for it lol

[@raphaelfillos6120]

I'm really curious of the impact of violence/aggression/bravery on suspensions @@jayhuahua

[@danielharrison5415]

I think this shows that having a few injury prone players isn't too bad but having multiple in same positions is a bad thing. Especially goalkeepers as you mentioned it probably cost you and when looking through the schedule there was a match where your created goalkeeper got replaced by regen, so the other goalkeeper was most likely injured.

[@jayhuahua]

Yeah absolutely, but the fact they reached high levels of potential was very eye opening to me. Will be less afraid of injury prone players going forward

[@bxuzabc]

these are the best ive literally watched hours of your videos over the past couple days lol

[@jayhuahua]

Great to hear 👍 glad you are enjoying the vids. And lits of ads hopefully 🤣

[@steven5232]

Go on Ralph! It's worth watching 10 videos just to see him pop up as England manager once 😂

[@jayhuahua]

It happens so rarely now it's all the more special 🤣

[@maxosamor5701]

Someone said "A squad full of eden hazards"😭😭😭😭

[@jayhuahua]

It's not wrong 🤣🤣

[@aidengallagher6681]

It would be interesting to actually tally up the total injuries of both after youve done the 1 injury proneness video. Could see if injury proneness actually has as big of an effect as we think

[@jayhuahua]

Lol... what create a big excel and compare the time injured per player, then the trophies won? Ughhh the admin Aiden, the admin 🤣 i did think this too though 🙃

[@aidengallagher6681]

@@jayhuahua im sure one of the viewers is a spreadsheet wiz. Maybe they can help out

[@lyonluv9306]

bro you deserve so many more subs - Keep it up

[@jayhuahua]

🫡👍

[@tagteamchampions]

I wonder if there is a column you could have added into your squad view that would show days injured for the season (or something similar). Could have been useful. I'm still on FM17 so can't check myself. I know you used to get an end of season injury summary for the whole squad. Would be interesting to see how bad that was.

[@jayhuahua]

Unfortunately there isn't. That'd have been nice

[@sundwb578]

Can you do a wonder kid squad with 1 stamina?

[@jayhuahua]

Haha 😄 i am intrigued. I'll make a note 👍

[@jhplayz298]

Random one, but a squad made entirely of goalkeepers

[@jayhuahua]

2nd person to.suggest this today 🤣 sadly greyed out outfield players spawn and the AI uses them. Tried it last FM. Underwhelming sadly

[@lastsecondshot5779]

Another great video Jay! I thought that the injuries would really hinder their development like you did. Really interesting to see how surprising the results were Also just wondering, have you ever done a career sim with a keeper who’s a dead ball specialist? It might be interesting to see how many penalties and (maybe assists?) he’d rack up, if any at all

[@jayhuahua]

I did try I think last FM and it flopped and I never released it. I do like the idea, however I don't think assists register for GK in statistics because it is replaced by clean sheets

[@andreabalbo4888]

Very interesting, i didn't expect this situation, they are to fragile to show their talent. This team probably needs 11 substitutions per match to win something. What about a team with max dirtness and aggression trained by a coach with hard tackle tactics, we can see if red card are as influent as injuries were in this experiment

[@jayhuahua]

Love this idea 💡 👍

[@ruttedbobcat]

An Injury prone team playing Millwall in an important game..... I'm surprised it was just to two injuries

[@jayhuahua]

🤣🤣🤣 ahhh the Millwall reputation

[@eykinator]

Would be nice to have a team with perfect physios to help them, also does bad training ground = more injuries?

[@jayhuahua]

Interesting... i wonder if physios would help

[@josht1998]

KIDDERMINSTER!!!! LETS GOOO MY TEAM

[@jayhuahua]

Apologies their success was limited 🤣

[@josht1998]

@@jayhuahua don’t worry king I’m used to it

[@swestlad1983]

What if you had all left footers and all right footers? As we know right I the best does it have an impact??

[@jayhuahua]

I did an experiment last FM where I did left foot vs right foot vs both foot as an entire squad experiment. One footed players did better

[@mickmccarthy8219]

Imagine the suffering those regens went through with all their injuries 😂

[@jayhuahua]

And they weren't even paid well for it 🤣

[@CSisPriority]

i think the higher the league, more effect from injury prone

[@jayhuahua]

Really? I didn't think that made any difference, you could be right though as it offers better growth for wonderkids playing in a higher league

[@hjortn1]

i wonder if you made the same experiment, but without a planned move, and maybe lower ambition. How many players would retire due to injury problems?

[@jayhuahua]

I think they'd all be gone by 32, a handful would in their 20s as well I expect

[@hjortn1]

this gave me an idea for an experiment i might try, trap them in a league with only brutal players with no sportmanship :D@@jayhuahua

[@Anders-B]

I am going to assume you haven't, and if I could have been bothered, but wouldnt it be nice to have a little spreadsheet with all of the development levels per season per experiment to see which experiments were the best and worst Also, you could do the same experiment, but half the squad is on slightly lower potential, maybe max 165 potential and 1 injury proneness and see which players have the best careers within the same squad.

[@jayhuahua]

Haha i can't be bothered woth spreadsheets, leave that type of analysis to the goat of excel, EBFM

[@brittlediamond]

Honestly, if I was a great player in a 1st division team that is hurt 2 months every year because of my job, I'd just take the money I already made and retire, sounds awful to live like that

[@jayhuahua]

I know what you are saying. They never made much money sadly because I lock their contracts low so they'd have to go and get real jobs... imagine that as a part 2, just import them all into the sims or something 🤣

[@brittlediamond]

@@jayhuahua poor pixelated guys :(

[@catl9282]

YES RALPH CHECK TY

[@jayhuahua]

Ralphs number 1 fan

[@catl9282]

@@jayhuahua I think I'm the only fan 😭

[@Chengyuan79]

Sorry, Buddhist Uposatha days for the last two days, so no entertainment for me (vow #7) ... was looking forward to this video and finally watched it. The findings are surprising, yes, but yet when i think about my own squad, the findings sort-of tallied ... OK, my Milan has 1b in the bank because i am as stingy as Arsene Wenger and prefer to pick up bargains. But, well, bargains came at a ... price. They usually "doesnt like big matches", or you would realize that they are "High" or "Very High" to injury proneness, indeed. Had a rare 5* SC who had High injury proneness, and for once sold a player at his peak (he didnt do well in CL finals. "Like big matches", but 6.5-ed them. The other SC "doesn't like big matches" and get to play because 1st guy was Injuried (ha), and scored and got us a rare CL win.) The 5* guy ended up in Southampton 2053, and singlehanded won them the EPL. I was like, wait a minute, you weren't injuried? He played 50+ matches for them. Damn. Next season, Man C offered 228m POUNDS for my Very High injury proneness Winger, but I refused to sell. Sure, he would have an injury later like every season, but ... half the season gone, and he had performed well as usual. So from my experience, the odd Injury Prone fellow is definitely fine.

[@jayhuahua]

Thats my takeaway but 228 million? My biggest sale is 200 of alex scott on my southampton mini series last year. Never have I considered keeping someone injury prone when offers that good come in. He must have been some player

[@Chengyuan79]

@@jayhuahua i did regret not selling him, but also is contradictary-ly happy to have kept him when he had already scored ~10 half the season gone. Do have a wonderkid rotating that LW position with him. Maybe I will sell next season at 28yo, if Man C 2055 is still keen. 😅 P.S. 200mil is still A LOT of money (and POUNDS at that). No human is worth a country's GDP, however much Sepp Blatter tried to spin it as "art".

[@jayhuahua]

Fingers crossed they come back in for him 🤣

[@Chengyuan79]

@@jayhuahua think the ship has sailed ... but like what certain managers had said, "I am a football manager, not a bank manager". Already have ~1b in the bank. If he keeps on having those 7.8 ratings and 10 - 20 goals season, I might even extend his contract to 33yo~! Am hoarding many wonderkids and loaning them around. Either-footers are just so hard to train ... anyway, just S/L-ing the academy kids. This year, I had to choose between loading one 5* kid, or loading TWO 4.5*-ers. Guess which route I went? 😅

[@blobfishking941]

Bath beat rivals Weston Super Mare 0:1 today. Though we have dropped out of the playoffs......

[@jayhuahua]

Safe from relegation though?

[@blobfishking941]

@@jayhuahua Surely

[@MorganDzn]

Russ penn getting sacked early on due to club form, fm getting more and more realistic

[@jayhuahua]

The managers can hold them back in these experiments. That is the biggest issue with lower league sides

[@MorganDzn]

@@jayhuahuayeah I can imagine, never realised the impact of managers at clubs until unai emery took over Ajax in our online eredivise save and took the title off three human players😂 russ penn not long got sacked due to harriers being bottom of the national league

[@EditsbyM]

imo these would be much more interesting if the players had names.

[@jayhuahua]

I hear that, however it makes it harder to check in on players in charts internationally and also making 20 plus names per experiment would be long. At least this way it's easier to absorb any info as you know instantly which players are in the experiment

[@EditsbyM]

@@jayhuahua I thought as much, I'm just speaking from a viewers perspective, and one that doesn't actually play the game at that. I mostly watch the individual player experiments because of this.

[@jeffhogg4297]

I wonder how many games they finish with less than 11 due to injuries.

[@jayhuahua]

It'd take a hell of a long time to collate that info

[@dot2562]

goalkeepers maybe.getting replaced with outfield players costthem.do one with a team of goalkeepers 😅

[@jayhuahua]

I think I tried this on the last FM and the squad gets a load of greyed out outfield players and they just play them sadly. Great idea, just difficult to execute

[@Ravenblood21]

Ah yes, the Chelsea experiment.

[@jayhuahua]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Anders-B]

Alan Hansen will like this experiment... "You can't win anything with kids" Kiddy are crap.

[@jayhuahua]

Certainly not injury prone kids

[@timmoore8623]

Should you not pick teams that play the “right” formation for the players. These managers playing wing backs is killing some of them

[@jayhuahua]

That's part of the fun 🤣 what would I have to complain about if the stupid AI wasn't retraining a CM as a wing back?

[@pingu2]

a team of 22 reece james

[@jayhuahua]

Are u saying this is that, or you want that as an experiment 🤣

[@mimistak]

Pure stupidity to make this 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@jayhuahua]

Welcome to the channel 🙃

[@timmoore8623]

🤕🎉❤

[@jayhuahua]

🤣🤣

[@timmoore8623]

@@jayhuahua a team full of “monsters”? Everyone over 6, 3? All can head and jump and they will “grow” into the individual roles. Think of the corners 🤔🤣😊

[@carsonafrin3923]

say niggles one more time bro

[@jayhuahua]

Did I say it a lot? Hit me with a niggles counter