A Modern Dreamcast Controller - Retro Fighters Striker DC Gamepad Review!

[@Madlittlepixel]

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[@__babyface]

@MadLittlePixel Why didn't you get the wireless Dreamcast controller? What? No Sonic Adventure 2?

[@Htl3648]

Just shell out s bit more and get the ascii pad. One of the best fighting pads around.

[@3ambreakbeats977]

Madlittlepixel great video as always

[@3ambreakbeats977]

Enrique I didn’t like it I like my Saturn to dc adapter though

[@dances_with_incels]

Do they have a Bluetooth version?

[@pastelalice4850]

Personally I always loved the Dreamcast controller. Was always comfortable to me. My only complaint on it was the analog not having some type of rubber coating on it like most controllers today have. My thumb would slip on it a lot. Still love the look of this controller. I loved the ones they made for the N64.

[@nutz4gunz457]

Been waiting since 9/9/99 for this.

[@RikkiSan1]

Seems like a good controller personally speaking I never really had issues with the default Dreamcast controller and I'm a bit of a purist.

[@droids75]

Hey more power to you if you dont mind the original. But personally I cant stand the stick or d-pad on the original controller so this is a welcome change that I'm glad I backed

[@violenthell]

I just got an old new stock Dreamcast controller, and it feels pretty fantastic to use; the buttons and analog stick feel super tactile

[@totophi]

My major issue is the “edge” of the rear grip curves compared to modern controllers. I had owned PS1 and Saturn by the time I found my DC, and those edges hurt my hand after half an hour.

[@hondamanvtec2894]

Fighting games on Dreamcast is played with arcadestick controllers All the other games the orginal controller was good

[@CardboardSliver]

After a while the stick did get uncomfortable. I added a bit of padding to mine, and it's been amazing.

[@MisterKee]

It looks fine but I'm waiting for the Retro-Bit 6-button controller.

[@tubinonyou]

I'm waiting for the Retrobit as well. Super excited for the 6 face buttons. I will be purchasing one for the DC and one USB for Redream.

[@trevorunderwood3652]

The only reason I’m buying the RetroBit version is for their Dreamcast wireless receiver, so that I can use my RetroBit wireless Saturn controllers on the system instead

[@benjamintorresprufstudent422]

@@tubinonyou or just get 2 dreamcast controllers and 1 dreamcast to pc adapter for ur controllers

[@tubinonyou]

@@benjamintorresprufstudent422 i didn't realize that was a thing. I'm thinking of grabbing the Mayflash.

[@vicior55]

Exactly. I'm waiting 6 buttons and 2 analog sticks

[@EEVOL]

Are we going to overlook the fact that his Dreamcast isn't discolored off-white like 99% of the consoles today?

[@Madlittlepixel]

😲

[@dreamcastfan]

My Dreamcast is really yellow... but that’s because I put a clear yellow case on it. 😁

[@FavianTubeX]

Is there a way to restore the correct color when there's discoloration like that

[@pacmanweeee]

@@FavianTubeX google retrobright

[@FavianTubeX]

pacmanweeee thank you

[@marklechman2225]

Great controller, I've got one and would recommend it to any DC fan. The only issue I have is that when the jump pack is inserted, the controller pulls down a bit in the back, whereas the OG controller felt more balanced in your hands when loaded up with a VMU and a jump pack. If they would have built the rumble feature into the controller that may have helped alleviate the problem. I feel they missed an opportunity by not doing that.

[@ZeniusFox]

I need this in black. Gotta have it match my Sega Sports Edition DC.

[@SamuelSarette]

They make it in black and other colors now

[@ZeniusFox]

@@SamuelSarette lol I wrote my comment 8 months ago chief. At the time, there was only white.

[@ShinGoukiSan]

I like everything about it except how far the VMU sticks out

[@rustymiller9555]

Tien_Gouki me too I wish they would have made the VMU sit flush. All they would have had to do is make the plastic slope over it the VMU. It’s a small detail but still a little disappointing.

[@onetwo6039]

Do your rumble packs work on it? I got the mad catz and they don't work on this controller but they do work on a original controller. 🤔

[@Elysianshadows]

Dreamcast developer here... I literally ONLY bought this controller because the VMU sticks out! You know why? In disassembling the VMU bios and doing work on an emulator, it has been discovered that the VMU is actually returning the button states to the Dreamcast's Maple protocol status queries!!! I'm actually going to use these as expansion buttons in our homebrew game and engine!

[@ShinGoukiSan]

@@Elysianshadows Nice!!!

[@AlexvrbX]

If they were going to attempt to "improve" the DC's controller, they should have used a d-pad more like the Saturn's. Especially at that price point.

[@albey1816]

Absolutely! - Should have just used a Saturn-style D-Pad.

[@sladejosephwilson2300]

That would have been perfect

[@poncho828]

That's what I was thinking

[@AlexvrbX]

@@AnarickTheDevil I'm not sure what you mean. They copied the Dreamcast controller pretty closely, with only minor tweaks. If you see him hold it and play street fighter, placement isn't an issue. My point was the main thing on the DC controller which desperately needed improvement (especially for those used to Genesis/Saturn controllers) was the d-pad. Just copy the Saturn's pad 100% and you're golden. Then again, ANYTHING is better than a PSX controller's d-pad from that same era. I don't know if you've playing fighting games on a first gen PSX controller, but the d-pad was more like d-buttons. It was trash. The only other thing I'd have done with a DC controller is add back in buttons where the "C" and "Z" were, and map them to the triggers. This would make arcade ports like MvC 1 much better, without needing the expensive arcade stick. They would have to carefully place everything so you can reach them all, and make sure they're not too crowded otherwise FPS like MDK2 would be tricky.

[@ColpoRosso]

Very cool! Loving the all matte plastic. They should make an USB or wireless version for PC Xinput with the added thumbstick and thumbstick buttons

[@DontPaniku]

I wish they would of asked for feedback before they started designing the controller. Why doesn't it have six face buttons?

[@CAPCOM784]

That is the perfect question.

[@Madlittlepixel]

I mentioned this to them a while back, if I recall it was something maybe in the future they would do and that they wanted to stick to more of the original style for this release.

[@tempanon8672]

@@Madlittlepixel I'd gladly wait and pay maybe an extra ten bucks for a six button layout controller. It'd be marginally cheaper than getting the DC's arcade stick.

[@noneed4me2n7]

Techni Myoko I second this as the original ones cost an arm and a leg. Sadly there's a bunch of games that would've benefited from that control scheme. Only Virtual On supports this setup I think.

[@HouwariAttack]

I’d like if they did a saturn style controller. Kinda like the Ascii pad ft

[@Orpheusftw]

I was waitin' for you to review this one. I'm eagerly awaiting mine to ship, so I'm glad you liked it.

[@droids75]

Dude I'm so excited for this. I backed it day one and I cant wait to get it. I've been wanting a dreamcast controller like the brawler 64 for a while

[@TimDavis77]

Hearing the praise of this controller makes me relieved that I backed it on Kickstarter. Eager to get mine!

[@KingNothing100]

Definitely going to get one of these, got a Terraonion Mode ordered for my Dreamcast so once that's in and I'm using this controller, will be excellent.

[@billy-waynejeffcoat4828]

I remember preordering this, I hope they hurry up and ship mine

[@swoodtek]

RGT85 said Sept-Oct release date when he announced it. I'm patiently waiting for two of them lol

[@RonkeyRong]

This was a great review. I was reluctant to get it because of the high cost but now after your review I'm gonna pull the trigger on the pre-order

[@Metaphor9696]

Finally you get to show it. I just saw this on Castlemania. After all the other upgrades I did to my Dreamcast, this is a must have for me

[@FidFighter]

Amazing to see this controller did justice and listening to feedback shows the love for the community. Looks economically well designed like most of their controllers.

[@lee5111]

Dreamcast needs a controller with some type of duel shock lay out. The right stick could mimic the abxy buttons for games that use them for movement directions such as unreal.

[@FunkyPertwee]

Really could have used a 6-button layout even it included duplicate triggers.

[@dapperfan44]

for what reason? that's for arcade pads.

[@TheSynrgy1987]

@@dapperfan44 6 button layout is just nice for fighters, much prefer it over L + R bumpers or in as well as L + R bumpers like the Saturn pad.

[@SaraphXIII]

I agree. Since they already duplicated L+R they should have just made it a solid 6 button layout with triggers instead of the L1+R1 type design they have here. The main reason why we wanted a fighter pad was for Capcom arcade ports.

[@mazor13]

@@dapperfan44 Serioulsy? No. No its not. Why would your limit inputs. Its easier to use 6 face buttons and using ex with the shoulder and face combinations. Having a duplicate of face button makes it closer to having a stick. You clearly do not understand fighting games. I personally use a hitbox now a days but when i was at home on pad preparing to goto the arcade I always liked more options since i only have 1 thumb on the buttons. On stick i have multiple fingers. Retro Fighters. :D its in the title lol.

[@dekuskrub2154]

@@mazor13 Assist calls in Marvel 2 are also incredibly awkward on the 6 face button layout

[@arfink]

One thing about the DC controllers is, they're hall effect, so they will never wear out. Not that pots are a real issue, but the original DC controllers are really unique that way.

[@stabinghobo57]

I don’t know, I like playing my original hardware with original controllers or updates to the originals like the Retro-Bit controllers.

[@TacticalPower88]

Something like this is more like an evolution to the orginal concept than a complete departure from it. Not too different from what you are used to besides it fitting better in your hand, the thumbstick not destroying your thumbs and the Dpad being easier to use.

[@stabinghobo57]

Yans Arcade: in an update, I’m talking about a wired controller becoming wireless. My problem with the Retro Fighter controller is the drastic change of shape and feel of the original Dreamcast controller, I have the same opinion on their N64 offering as well.

[@BMR86]

man! so cool you post this now! i placed my order for my retro fighters striker DC game pad back in February, unfortunately the shipping date was pushed back from mid april to mid may due to covid 19, they actually replied to my tweet when i asked why i hadn't received mine in the mail yet! so cool i can't wait to have mine in my hands! and yeah it was 60 bucks so it better be premium!

[@scalliano]

All I want is a third-party DC or N64 controller with a duplicate thumbstick on the right-hand side for FPS aiming. Even if it means having to move with the D-pad. That middle prong on the N64 pad was there for a reason...

[@josephhuffman2757]

There's always things you can think of to further improve these kinds of controller updates but it still looks pretty awesome.

[@mtshark7]

Awesome review Ron! That controller looks amazing 😀

[@thegenerousdegenerate9395]

So THIS was the big secret you couldn't show us on your previous dreamcast video! Sneaky sneaky Ron! Lol

[@joshjhutton]

I bough the Retro Fighters Nintendo 64 controller. It was a game changer. I love to play N64 games now.

[@felynx5428]

I've been waiting for this one!!! I saw you had the beta controller on your desk on one of your past videos!

[@gettin_lit6594]

Sweet about time someone redesigned the DC controller

[@JokoOG3]

The L and R triggers both broke after a week of playing Jet Set Radio with this controller. The company is replacing the controller for free, so do they have great customer service. The plastic is not strong at all on these triggers, so be careful!

[@kolibri5523]

when I heard about a new DC controller, I expected soo much a controller with 2 analog sticks which could be used for 3d games. I mean, with proper configuration I'm sure this can be mapped to a keyboard/moouse configuration and make games such as Q3A or Outtrigger so much nicer to play

[@thefifthdoctor6780]

I love mine (got 2) couldn’t resist!

[@Alexander-ix2jp]

Great controller. What I'd like to see now is a new vmu with a colored and led backlit display.

[@slamjackson2137]

Great review! Backer here, always thought the DC controller was pretty cool, but I got hit with some major cramps this past time around playing fighting games. Looking forward to getting this!

[@rustymiller9555]

Aesthetically the only issue I have is the VMU doesn’t sit flush in the controller like the original. I know it doesn’t hinder performance but it would have made the controller look sleek. I’ll pick it up soon probably.

[@thereturnticket]

Just wanna say that I've been really enjoying your content during the quarantine period. Doing some good work dude.

[@Sinn0100]

Whoa there man, the Dreamcast had a fine controller when it hit. If it had two sticks it would have been one of the greats. Especially if the sticks would have been slightly off center like the Xbox 360/Xbox One/Xbox One X. I don't care for the way the VMU sticks out of the top of the controller. I'll tell you this...the packing looks really clean. I might have to snag one for my Dreamcast in the near future. As I have two different Dreamcasts, I wonder if they have a black one as well. I have a standard white launch September 1999 model and a black *rare Sega Sport's one as well. I wish Sega made a black non-sports package version.

[@kdkseven]

I only just recently picked up a Dreamcast, and i gotta say the controller is really awkward to hold. It has a weird angle to it where your wrists are turned at a sharp angle. Played Rayman 2 for just an hour and had to give up. That was about a year ago. So glad i'll finally be able to get back to it whenever my StrikerDC shows up.

[@honeypower]

Dreamcast was a fighting game (in particular 2d fighters) enthusiasts dream come true. The controller was terrible though it's so true. Not only were the triggers horrible but it only had 6 buttons! Many benefited from 8, such as super street fighter 2 turbo, alpha 3, third strike etc etc. This definitely seems a worthwhile upgrade if the d pad is solid.

[@thirdworldrenegade]

But you can't actually map the triggers to anything, can you?

[@pwnswoggle]

It looks all good but I have no idea why they didn't put 6 face buttons on there.

[@MrSolidtiger]

I got one coming. I’m using the ASCII Saturn Style controller for my fighters, but I can’t wait to feel this one in hand.

[@rynomclaughlin1595]

I bought the N64 Brawler64 controller they made and loved it, I don't see the need for the Dreamcast to get an "upgrade" though

[@mikel6989]

i can't wait to get mine, they should be shipping them soon

[@8KilgoreTrout4]

Good review man. Now I want one :)

[@DJ239]

This'll be the perfect Power Stone/ Shenmue controller.

[@CorbininJapan]

Love this!!!! Thank you for showing it off!!

[@BryanTrustyChannel]

Freaking awesome new Dreamcast pad! It's a good time to be alive for gamers. I can't wait for the retrobit controllers for the DC to hit. I'm really enjoying the Saturn pad from them! This looks nice too.

[@hiawa23]

Waiting for my new Kickstarter Striker controller to come in. Looks awesome.

[@JetteroHeller83]

I also ordered one of these. Can't wait to get it.

[@FavianTubeX]

I wish they incorporated the rumble internally in the controller to save people time and money in finding those rumble packs. Maybe version 2 of this controller?

[@Tongster84]

Nice I backed this one can’t wait for it to arrive

[@FinalManaTrigger]

Ah you genius, genius man. I was wondering how this controller would handle on SFIII: 3rd Strike at the beginning of the video, and you read my mind.

[@JC-jj1xm]

This is awesome! Getting it just for Airforce Delta. Only having the two triggers and not a secondary set made flying expert rediculous, so you had to play novice, not allowing the plane to yaw or spin.

[@FavianTubeX]

What a beautiful little system, Sega's swan song

[@Manatarms25]

Sweet ! I love this hopefully they also consider a USB version!

[@hectorleon465]

The last time i bought a controller, was the NES retrofighters controller LOVED IT! But it suddenly stopped working in a years time.... It did come with a rubber keychain of one of those guys.

[@BurgerKingNationalist]

I love the DC controller. Comfy af.

[@KrystoHartge]

As soon I get my job back I'll buy it for sure

[@vmguedes]

Big cord so no problem with it. It was about time someone took care of it coming out the wrong way. About the 6 button issue - I don’t think it is the Dreamcast way of playing street fighter for example. We can play street fighter on many other systems with different controllers. I think it is only meant to improve on the original and respecting it at the same time. Great Job! Great Video!

[@JulianWiersbitzki]

Can't wait to get my two controllers! go go go!

[@noneed4me2n7]

I ordered one based off your review. Wish there was a discount code but it costs what new controllers cost so it's fair.

[@4ArchieLee]

Since we're talking fightersI think you should of went to control settings to show the additional two buttons added to confirm set up.

[@bluespinewood6304]

Woah this how controller looks like? Its amazing!

[@TampaTec]

Earned 👍. I love the Dreamcast and controllers, love that window. Atari 2600 and N64 are bad controllers but switch Joy-Cons are kinda worse unless you' got tiny hands. ✋

[@eskimojoe6564]

Your Dreamcast is so minty the controller makes it look a lot more modern.

[@izzymaedavidson1974]

I hope they make a PlayStation/ PS2 controller.

[@rustymiller9555]

Isaac Davidson I hope they make a ps3 controller!! DS3s are super hard to find a real one that still works.

[@lunitaproductions8290]

I personally want for a Bluetooth receiver

[@natevirtual]

I think retrobit is working on a controller with that feature, but they use the original controller design, I like this one much better

[@lunitaproductions8290]

@@natevirtual well mainly i want to use my PS4 controller and Saturn Bluetooth just for the fighting games, my Xbox one controller for any other games But i truly want it cuz the original controller wire is short

[@natevirtual]

@@lunitaproductions8290 theres also the option of getting the retrobit controller extension cable. I got 2, they're pretty good

[@DarDarBinks1986]

I'd rather have a wireless version. Controller cords are so 1999. Wireless is the future, people!

[@dudeguy7347]

Wired is better. No latency and no worrying about charging it or throwing batteries away

[@kdkseven]

It would cost a third more. Wired is ok with me.

[@sladejosephwilson2300]

Wired is better. No latency issues.

[@TheEarthRealm]

The only way it could get any better is if they remove the two buttons near the screen, and add a second analogue stick to the lower right-hand side beneath the four face buttons. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@drew8235]

Glad there are other options but I'm not sure I could ever use anything but the original controller. It's such a fantastic design and it's still one of my favorite controllers of all time, even with its issues. =P

[@TheEarthRealm]

Same! Also, what would these L and R shoulder buttons even do...? 😅

[@Macmittens411]

The Orginal DC Controller was great!

[@kdkseven]

I only just recently picked up a Dreamcast, and i gotta say the controller is really awkward to hold. It has a weird angle to it where your wrists are turned at a sharp angle. Played Rayman 2 for just an hour and had to give up. That was about a year ago. So glad i'll finally be able to get back to it whenever my StrikerDC shows up.

[@jedimaster12100]

This is cool. I hope they order one in the future that's wireless and has six buttons.

[@kevin_lee_music]

As someone who loves the original, Im more excited for Retro-Bits honestly

[@TheGameBeaters]

It’s doesn’t seem too much different from the originals other than they cut some of the fat. Well and the wire position in a better place. Seems like a great option if you’re in the market for a 3rd party DC controller.

[@Madlittlepixel]

Its definitely similar in design to keep it as close to what people remember using as possible, but this design is definitely a lot more comfortable to hold and those additional shoulder buttons help a lot.

[@timothyhagan2579]

The dreamcast controller does not need any type of re-imagining, and dare I say that it was the inspiration for the XBox controllers which have evolved into what some people believe are the most comfortable to use controllers ever made.

[@LARGEMANNN]

This is an awesome looking controller I need 2 of these ASAP Rocky ....

[@BLKBRDSR71]

I only wish they made these wireless. Good review, I might pick one up.

[@stizzo135]

3:07 Wait, this comes with TP!?!? BRB ordering as many of these as I can afford!

[@richardg5301]

The trick to doing circular motions on the original dreamcast d-pad btw is to keep the tip of your thumb in the center of it. Otherwise, it'll dig into your thumb real fast. No clue why they did not keep the sega saturn d-pad. Even this Retrofighters one, why not have the Saturn d-pad and 6 face buttons if you're going for a whole new design?

[@CHMernerner]

And now I want a original dreamcast pad styled modern controller....(two sticks)

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

I'd like to see them design an altered Gamecube controller with a bigger d-pad and a proper C stick, but without the drawbacks found in other third party controllers. And also have it USB compatible, so it can work on platforms like PC and Switch!

[@sladejosephwilson2300]

Same here

[@Fille-lj1qv]

i also backed thhere dc controller,can't wait to test it out once my mode's are here.

[@michaelpope3880]

Even though 6 button configuration would be nice this still is a great looking controller

[@pdraggy]

Buy it for the functionality, most excited for the Toilet Paper!!

[@FavianTubeX]

If they're going to add buttons that were never there I would love a second (right) analog stick for those FPS that used the 4 face buttons to move. Im thinking Quake 3 arena right now but maybe there were some other games that could benefit from a second stick that could be remapped?

[@hvskyline1368]

I’d love to see something like this for the original Xbox

[@Evixyn]

I am glad that you enjoyed the controller as I was looking to get a few more controllers myself 0/

[@scottythompson940]

cool video tech talk madlttiel pixel

[@TheEarthRealm]

So wait, what does the L and R shoulder buttons actually _do_ then...? 😅

[@BigSnipp]

I loved the DC controller, except for one thing. The D-Pad hurts your fingers after a few hours of playing. I'm looking forward to this. Thanks for the review, MLP.

[@gustavojoserodriguez7475]

I Love the Original DreamCast Controller is comfortable.

[@sophiafortyfour]

A six button version on the face would be rad!

[@MrMegaManFan]

Ooh. I've been looking for a new Dreamcast controller. This could be it!

[@firesonic1010]

If they're nodernizing the DC controller, why didn't they put rumble motors inside the controller? That seems quite dumb.

[@foch3]

I have one on Order, but I would have liked it if the cable color matched the original.

[@Dimensiom]

I received my StrikerDC today and the first game that I tried with it was Pier Solar and the Great Architects. And it was a disaster. The D-pad would just *stop* after a few seconds and I would have to release and press again to keep things moving. A standard controller did not give me this issue. I thought that perhaps I had a faulty unit, but then I tested RE2 and RE:CV and I had no problems. In RE2 I was able to start a new game and easily weave between zombies all the way to the police station. I am concerned, but given my observations I suspect that Pier Solar itself has some odd issue.

[@Madlittlepixel]

Havent heard that issue. I will test it out on mine later when I have a chance.

[@keenanwilkie7607]

@@Madlittlepixel Just did some more testing on fighting games (SFIII:3S, SFA3, MvC2) and had no issues. So far Pier Solar is the only problem game. I am curious as to whether anyone else gets the problem.

[@ZombieDawg]

I don't think I've ever used a DC controller without the Jump Pack installed. I take it the Retro Fighters doesn't have rumble built in?