A Neighborhood With Character - Cabrillo | Cities Skylines #13

[@zacharysheamills]

FYI, members of the Sequoia family of trees (Including redwoods), grow in VERY specific microclimates. Redwoods, Sequoia Sempervirens, are only found in coastal groves with relatively high elevation and moderate rainfall. What we know coloquially as Sequoia, Sequoiadendron Giganteum, are only found in extremely high, westernly facing mountain slopes in the Sierra Nevadas! love the episode and the story you're telling with this series/city!

[@ParkerJonesmtb]

A mine museum would be a great addition to go along with the lumber mill; look up Brittannia Mine Museum in Squamish BC

[@ashleyhamman]

A point about the NIMBYism and land values from what I have seen: They don't want property values to go down, but they also don't particularly want them to go up if it means higher taxes and more noise, of course forgetting that cities aren't noisy, cars are, and that higher taxes tend to provide better services per dollar. They like "being out in the sticks" while having urban comforts, which in general is the paradox of suburbs.

[@GeneralGoosey]

Absolutely love how you're tackling NIMBYism. I can't speak for the rest of Europe, but the term NIMBY is gaining prominence in the UK (even though we don't say backyard). Often it's tied into debates about the Green Belt - a late-1940s policy designed to prevent urban sprawl. A lot of the outer London communities now, for example, have to either build up or build out to meet housing needs, and both are vigorously opposed. So yeah, definitely a real issue here.

[@charlienorthover1702]

I mean there 100% is validity to the NIMBY argument. Specifically in smaller UK towns and cities. Estates are thrown up with poor craftsmanship and a load of people are just chucked there. There's no sense of community. I used to live in one of these thrown up estates. It's actually really pretty, it's called Coopers Edge. But, it's so fucking depressing.

[@harryneale2228]

​@@charlienorthover1702 social housing recently has poor craftmanship because it is it is given to the construction company who will do it for the cheapest, which usually means low-skill, low-wage immigrant, labor, especially around big cities, I work in the construction industry (electrician) and when we are first fixing social housing the craftmanship especially the plastering is awful. Unfortunately, if we keep our net migration level at 300,000 a lot of whom are coming over for family or low skill work thus needing social housing and keep over-relying as an economy on an ever growing population then the greenfield sites are gonna keep getting built on and the countryside will keep shrinking.

[@charlienorthover1702]

@@harryneale2228 it’s just funny to me. Because all of these areas will stagnate and turn to shit like the older areas of deprivation. It’s just sad. Because at the end of the day it’ll cost more money to fix the issue than to make sure it doesn’t appear in the first place.

[@jimothy9988]

@@harryneale2228 Or instead of blaming people moving over here to reunify with their families or better themselves our ire should be focused on the actors which failed to build social housing for decades or sold off our existing stock and let these contractors get away with poor quality construction.

[@harryneale2228]

Jimothy 99 not blaming them at all mate, I’m blaming our immigration system for creating the never ending supply for social housing.

[@kadebyranddefunct2903]

Another aspect of NIMBYism is that it is often so tied with racism. Obviously not all NIMBY arguments are racist, but very frequently the concerns boil down to not wanting “those people” to move in. This is especially true with arguments against public transit.

[@LMC2009DOTA]

In Rio de Janeiro NIMBYism is very tied with racism. The biggest example I can tell you is that people from Leblon and Gavea (high income neighborhoods in Rio) always opposed the construction of a private Stadium by Flamengo, something around 20k seats. Then a new indoor sports arena project (a partnership between flamengo and McDonald's) for 4,5k seats was also heavily opposed and always the same argument: "we dont want these kind of people around here.

[@keilanwinston9100]

This was used alot in the south of the us back in when segregation first ended

[@biagio014]

Some types of developments bring in large numbers of lower income people who bring crime with them it’s not racist at all to want a safe neighborhood

[@biagio014]

obviously sometimes it is tied to racism but this is an example where it isn’t

[@foodforthegods]

17:00 hit me like a brick. What a shot!

[@molybdane7240]

Time to do a little devil's advocate on the nimby phenomenon. I think that in the example that is given in this video of nimby-ism, a major cause is probably a lack of confidence in either the local government, developers, or both. I can imagine that there are cases in which inhabitants allowed for some increase in density, only to end up fighting city hall and others in decade long legal procedures after the plans for those fourplexes turned into 8 stoy apartment blocks. Remember, these might be the same pleople that you so admired when they participated in the highway revolts.

[@shaddythewiz3836]

ik for example in New York city i want increase density it make sense but they don't do that they just build luxury or "affordable housing "(not really affordable even for the Middle class) that are 8 storys next to a Victorian house that could of easily been converted into a duplex or triplex or more. it makes me mad. and don't get me started on try to price out people who live in those neighborhoods or force them out sometimes illegally. like I'm lucky my local neighborhood council is strong because they been try to do thing that would hurt our neighborhood like destroy the park that kids play in to build luxury apartments .

[@shaddythewiz3836]

but I would like to say some neighborhood like to use it for bad for example there are neighborhood that reject bus lines in the city cuz they don't want "those people"here referring too black and brown people .

[@Blyton1985]

very true. once you have your own property, paid for with your own hard earned money you think differently.

[@commonisekaihero4745]

I get what you're saying. An area where I used to live did a build up. The buildings where only four stories high but a lot of people in the area believed they lost out on views and stuff (In this case they didn't but they still made that argument)

[@ButzPunk]

Nimbyism is a thing where I live, in Australia, too. The local council of the suburb I grew up in was so opposed to upzoning, the state government had to step in and literally force them to accept the current (new) zoning scheme. There's now a bunch of medium-density flats/apartments and townhouses springing up along the major transport corridors. It's cool to watch the suburb grow and change in real time, and nice to have a glimmer of hope of one day owning a place in the neighbourhood where I grew up.

[@jonathanroutledge5610]

Might be a controversial take, but my issue with redevelopment or new homes being built is at the moment too much is handled by private developers with no oversight after the building has gone up on who can live there. Take my neighborhood in a large Oregon city (not Portland). A bunch of very attractive, well designed townhouses were built on some old disused commercial lots. A square was redeveloped for food carts and a community space. Its really lovely, but the houses built there are ridiculously expensive. They sell for $600k+ in a neighborhood that is already getting more and more expensive to live in. It was the perfect opportunity to build homes that look the same from the outside, but maybe are divided into more units, maybe a few apartments, so that the price could be lower and lower income families have a chance to live in a lovely neighborhood. Instead, rich, older people have moved in (which this neighborhood already has lots of). I hardly ever see kids going into the homes. Developers want to squeeze as much profit out of a piece of land. Allowing duplexes, fourplexes, apartments etc to be built is brilliant, but we need regulations to make sure developers don't just take it as a free pass to fill neighborhoods with expensive condos and townhouses.

[@commonisekaihero4745]

It could be an Australian thing but often or not those same very expensive houses are also built with money saving in mind. A lot of building materials have become very flimsy lets say and although the walls on the outside are strong the inside is very light, very hollow and not worth the money that comes with a "modern" housing development.

[@Sebman1113]

I’d be a street car suburb guy since I would mostly want a single family home on a street with mostly single family homes but I’d want to be able to walk down the street to a corner store or to a vibrant street not far with light rail access.

[@baronjutter]

Here I am at 2am on a Thursday night watching skylines videos.

[@Adrian-qi1hv]

Potentially interesting build: under construction HSR; new station and maybe the skeletons of some viaducts under construction in the outskirts of the map

[@phillyzfynest7]

He is too close to the coast and too far north for the California HSR project.

[@zenfer]

Should there be architectural standards on new duplexes and small apartments? Or even on single-family homes. Here in South Minneapolis, we've had a flood of new development and teardowns of little 50s homes replaced by new suburban-style homes and some multi-family, but much of it is objectively hideous.

[@PresCities]

Form-based code is something I'm actually in favor of. It just needs to be written by good urban designers.

[@samueldickson969]

Trees make everything look better. I love the variation of trees used as well. Keep up the great work!

[@teepicgamer73]

Great video, as always! I think a great museum idea could be something involving the fishing industry or maybe one of those old settlers re-enactments

[@abagailgoff9020]

I live in South Carolina a few hours away from Charleston and it’s (as I’ve been told) a hot debate whether higher density should be allowed because of historical houses and such. They definitely won’t let anything be torn down, so developers have gone around it and turned current classically Charleston homes into multi-family homes where the house is split into two or three etc units based on floors. Even that is a hot topic for locals even though their sight lines are being preserved as well as historical foundations. Guess a few walls being replaced is still too much, and as a history lover, I see both sides. Interesting to see overlap with bigger cities, though Charleston is still quiet huge both in the history of the US and in exports (giant port city).

[@cougar_mountain]

Love the mill set up. I was happy to see it in your list. Loving the city. Hope to see some rural stuff soon.

[@AaronSKZ]

I live in the Salt Lake City metro area and we have some horrible NIMBY’s. The county wanted to build 4 small homeless shelters spread around the county and people lost their shit. It showed how selfish and prejudiced people are. The shelters would have max 200 people per location and two were designated just for families but people complained about property values and said it would turn their neighborhoods into dirty vandalized crime pits. There was one town hall meeting that made the news because people were so extremely vitriolic. They were screaming and cursing the organizers out and someone caught it on video. It was absolutely disgusting.

[@Blyton1985]

nontheless it's a fact that if there is a homeless shelters near your property the value of your home will go down. I won't go so far as saying that the neighbourhood will become a crime pit but property value will decrease. If you buy something for say 250k, you wouldn't be to happy if it's value would go down to say only 180k after a bit. 200 people is a lot, and I've made the experiece that just a few bad apples can do their fair share in doing a lot of damage.

[@AaronSKZ]

@@Blyton1985 I know but they weren’t going to build them in the residential areas on residential streets, they would be near the commercial areas so the affect on property value I would think isn’t going to be huge. It’s still a legitimate concern though I understand that. However the major point is just how incredibly horrible the response was. Like it wasn’t just a debate and negotiation. People were shrieking and screaming the most disgusting things. That’s the major issue. If you want the shelter somewhere else that’s fine but you don’t need to be a shit human being about it. I thought the locations were bad because they weren’t located near transit. The Salt Lake valley is not built for people without cars. So putting the shelter in places not near the light rail line or major bus routes is incredibly stupid.

[@discomforting_thoughts]

In the suburb I live in there's no single family home zoning (I live in Europe and I think no country here has strict zoning rules) and indeed I can confirm that property values haven't gone down as the density increased. If anything real estate prices increased because now there are more shops, reastaurants and public transport stations in the neighbourhood.

[@pauljarski7977]

Let me share another set of supporting argument for duplex/triplexes/fourplexes that you can use in the future so you don't feel like you're repeating your same core arguments as much. I became more aware of these types of supporting arguments when I began following the Strong Towns blog a decade ago. 1) Big apartment complexes do add density but they a lot of capitol to fund and a more corporate structure to operate. This scale presents a barrier of entry to the housing development market. The small-time local developer doesn't have the means or funds to compete for projects of this scale. These apartments instead end up being driven by national or regional developers rather than local developers. The construction profits and ongoing rental profits then get funneled out of the community. If instead the block had duplex/triplex/fourplexes it might achieve a similar density but the profits of the local rents might be more likely to stay in the local community among a series of small time landlords. Keeping these dollars local will make the local economy more resilient. 2) When neighborhoods age and change a big apartment complex is not adaptable. It declines and then either a new corporate owner buys and rehabs or the property goes steadily downhill. If instead the block was a series of duplex/triplexes/fourplexes over time different properties on the block will change hands. Some will be well maintained and some will decline. But the important thing is that the level investment to rehab or even adapt a given duplex/triplexes/fourplexes property to a new use would be vastly less capital intensive than doing the same to a large apartment complex. The ability to rehab/adapt these properties on an individual basis will make the neighborhood more resilient in the long haul than if the entire fate of the block was wrapped up in one building owned by a large out-of-state developer. Having said all this - It is still very valid to have hi-rise apartments in the downtown core near transit. But once you get to further out neighborhoods where land use is moderately compact walkable single family the plan to upgrade the infill density should first explore duplex/triplexes/fourplexes on existing lots rather than assembling numerous lots to build large apartment complexes.

[@archontiverius]

My favourite personal encounter with NIMBY-ism coming from Australia was when I was with a client who turned around to mention a 6 story apartment being built down the road saying that it "ruins the areas village charm.". In an area characterised by generic suburban sprawl, while the road outside my office was visibly gridlocked for the entire meeting.

[@jsnD_1]

Loved that ted talk about the flags

[@subjectc7505]

I been to the Coke Cola Factory in Atlanta, it was really fun. We got to see how Coke was made, we got to create our own and try different types of soda from different parts of the country. You could do like some old soda factory that was turnt into a museum as well.

[@awesomepilot7567]

17:02 looks like some streets you would see in Vancouver!

[@therealdave06]

I think NIMBY is sort of a concept in Europe, but I always associated the term more with, for example, people who are for renewable energy but don't want a wind farm being built within a few km from their home or in the UK people supporting more high speed rail to cut emissions but not wanting HS2 being blasted through their towns and villages.

[@ApollonDriver]

Some night/sunset shots would be amazing for the cinematics alongside with day shots

[@bertbertsonson]

How about a railroad museum similar to the The Real Nevada State Railroad Museum?

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Or even the California State Railroad Museum in Old Sacramento. Loved to go to that place as a little kid.

[@Diana-le7oh]

I love this series so much. Honestly it reminds me the most of Oakland but I really like that.

[@BattleshipOrion]

A C44-9W for switching (Approx 8:30)!? No no no...that hurts my eyes, replace with the SD40-2 prop, or any of the retro prop packs GP38-2s. As for the living museum thing...any steam programs, or rail museums with active restorations on locomotives, cars, etc, a working coal/ore dock, or an abandoned mine?

[@PHX787]

Good talk about NIMBY. a good balance that's required but at the same time it's something to consider for people who've occupied these neighborhoods for years. I live in Tokyo, and one of the biggest "NIMBY" things has been the expansion of Haneda Airport. They're worried about the new arrival routes into the north-south runways being too loud for these rich neighborhoods (when in actuality these routes are used because it's a safer arrival into HND) so there's been a massive debate there for a long time

[@kaiserteddie9564]

wasnt there a major riot involving this airport in the 80s

[@E.Higginnss]

Can confirm that NIMBY is definitely a concept in the UK. It’s gaining more popularity around Greater London and surrounding high wealth counties.

[@alec347]

Love it! A tiny detail that might be fun for some of these hillside neighborhoods would be something like the walking path/staircases in the Berkeley hills people put in during the streetcar era to help people walk down the hill. You've probably seen them if you've gone north of Vine street, they usually are signed like the east-west streets they connect to.

[@PresCities]

Yeah, definitely should add these. Thanks!

[@sdunn3318]

While I find your commentary on NIMBYism great, I fear that it doesn’t address the financial realities that come with “upzoning” and increasing density in many places, especially suburban and smaller cities and towns that are gaining population or just maintaining population across the USA. More often than not these days, the COL (cost of living) in a neighborhood getting developed or gaining density increases the cost of rent in that area and the surrounding area because the “market rate” shifts up. The cost of mortgages and of property taxes in those areas also begins to inflate when you add in new and expensive -plex housing stock over a period of time. This is largely due to much of that development being done by those already with lots of capital to put towards developing, and who will ultimately squeeze dollars out of those communities that won’t go back into them. We are already beginning to see denser built-to-rent single family and multiplex neighborhoods cropping up across the US. This kind of development isn’t for the consumer, as much as it’s advertised as a win because you don’t have to worry about maintenance, and it’s more flexible for those who don’t want to settle down and set roots yet. It’s predominantly for developers and those seeking passive incomes off of working people from all income brackets, but mostly working folks with high incomes. Outside of all the big major metros, where some jobs offer wages that can manage the changing prices, much of US is contending with ever increasing costs of living due to both a squeeze on housing availability and new housing stock being only affordable for the upper income brackets in those areas, lower income folks who are willing to fork over 50%+ of their pay for rent/mortgage or have 4 roommates in their 30s and 40s, or for commuters/new residents that couldn’t find anything cheaper closer to where they work. These new housing prices can mimic big city or just outside of city costs, without the services and wages in that region to follow. The economic fallout from this kind of development when unchecked and when it doesn’t allow for very affordable routes to home ownership or apartment ownership/renting or housing co-operatives can hollow out communities in major ways and push middle and low income folks who’ve been living there onto the fringes or into worse housing situations. I agree that we have to develop and improve our housing stock in much of the US, but we have to do so in ways that are friendly to the average worker and the already existing communities as well as new folks seeking to call it HOME, not predominantly property developers, property speculators, those looking to secure passive incomes off workers, and cities who aren’t going to be upset at the suddenly higher property taxes.

[@PresCities]

Yes, I completely agree. I mentioned that the working class folks in Lower Covelo have also opposed development for a long time because of this. And we MUST combine new development with inclusionary zoning. Just trying to address one issue at a time.

[@func8211]

@@PresCities You've listened to too much hipster planning bullshit. You just want to repeat everything NJB has told you without consideration for logistics or economics.

[@Wizard__OW]

I love this comment, spoke exactly what I was thinking. We’ve had quite a number of attempted up-zoning developments in the south suburbs of Chicago and the points you made exactly define what we feared here. Families out here want to stay settled and secluded, we don’t want to be urbanized.

[@teosoto0360]

if theres a valley u should make like an east bay / central valley suburb, like Brentwood antioch tracy and mountain house; are all master plan suburbs

[@toasttoast7489]

The problem I have with certain apartment buildings being built where I live ( in the UK) is that in the city developers often build more and more flats on small plots of land in already densely populated areas,(places with terraced housing and tenements) while out in the suburbs they continue to build spaced out estates of large detached houses. Which isn't fair on people live in inner city or more urban areas. It is important to have mixture of density, but I can see why people protest.

[@jonathanroutledge5610]

Are you going to build a neighborhood or area that has become a place for homeless people to camp or congregate? During the pandemic lots of cities have designated spots for people to set up tents, but continue to do "camp clearances" in places people "shouldn't be". I'm interested to see how that darker side of living in large West Coast cities will be handled in place like Cabrillo.

[@PresCities]

At some point, yeah

[@dreeco1762]

California has a lot of mixed income, unlike most states, you can low income mixed with middle income, & high income.. people don’t understand that, I went to school that was like that

[@bobbyggare8364]

I come from Europe and I do not understand the term up zoning, What is it?

[@PresCities]

Allowing people to build denser development on a plot of land

[@bobbyggare8364]

@@PresCities ah thanks.

[@davidatkinson89]

In terms of a museum- how about a distillery or vineyard?

[@ミッドナイト-y4j]

Very beautiful, keep doing it. I'm following👍

[@Critical_Hit]

A lot of older suburban houses in my home city of Oslo are big houses with multiple apartments in them, often 2 or 3 in one house. I think US could have used a lot more of those kind of houses.

[@PHENIXXCREATES]

Those cinematic shots are just amazing. Just when I thought I finally got my cities graphics looking awesome and realistic . I see these.. and think "well... crap"

[@dreeco1762]

Will the city have an beach ?

[@SaturnFN1]

yo idk if ur gonna read this but i remember you from when you use to make minecraft graphics you were insane bro

[@TenuousGamingYT]

Hey, what are you running for a computer for CS?

[@jeremycarroll3927]

Do you place hospitals etc?

[@newpractice]

loving this series and the social commentary aspect... wondering what the rent is like in one of those painted ladies by the train tracks 👀

[@PresCities]

$6000, pay up

[@newpractice]

@@PresCities 😬

[@gamingwithbella6342]

Best video ever love your content

[@blujitsu2180]

No city should get to have so many cool neighborhoods with things going on. I don’t think I agree with the people saying Cabrillo is Portland in CA purely because it has so much of its own going on. It’s more dynamic than that.

[@feyss3]

I live in the city that gave its name to Brusselization. I understand NIMBY phenomenon at 100%.

[@Thatsoausten]

i’m from portland and i think you should look into kings heights - it’s my favorite in the city

[@darrennormand7996]

Are you gonna fill in the empty spaces in Morgan and down town

[@davwekamel3289]

looks great!

[@calebv9307]

allowing triplexes and 4plexes does help with affordable housing, but what about real regulated govt subsidised housing? (also rent control???)does Cabrillo have a mandatory minimum of affordable units that need to be built in housing developments, like in new york? also, does Cabrillo have a housing authority, I think it would be interesting to build a slightly rundown towers in the park style 1960s development close to the downtown. keep up the great work!

[@dlwatib]

W don't do public housing in towers in California, except for some midrise towers that the Navy built in San Diego.

[@vladimirgunnar7015]

It looks so nice

[@that1amusement718]

If I were living in a suburb with my house, and the develops came and said they were building "The Projects" in my neighborhood, I would protest them too. I wouldn't want an apartment complex that attracts criminals in my neighborhood either. However, we should better plan areas for residences that have jobs, because just placing an apartment smack in the middle of a neighborhood will be competing too much with others for jobs, and some would resort to crime as to supplement a paycheck.

[@AodhMacAuliffe]

They usually don't build those huge projects in the suburbs, it'd probably be duplexes or townhouses.

[@that1amusement718]

@@AodhMacAuliffe I agree, especially for those type of housing it would be more out of the way. However, I know someone who had a very big new house built, and the city built these shoebox homes next to it. They didn't even need a garage cover, just a small home. Essentially a ghetto was placed there because the city council thought they needed more "affordable housing". In reality however, the city council members always seem to place these less desirable neighborhoods as far away as possible from where they live, yet force other citizens to live with it.

[@kevinschaeffer9432]

Imagine thinking that apartments "attract criminals."

[@func8211]

@@kevinschaeffer9432 Imagine thinking gentrification is bad.

[@kevinschaeffer9432]

@@func8211 I know right, kicking poor people out of their houses is the best.

[@lukaslyngas1805]

18:27 What is that biker doing? 😂😂😂

[@tiegewastaken]

who else remembers falcon falls?

[@PresCities]

me

[@alexn6060]

From Auckland, New Zealand, and NIMBYism is a real issue here too. Similarly to the US, NZ is a young country, therefore what we consider historical is somewhat laughable to someone from Europe, say. That said, we have many suburbs with beautiful, tree lined streets with Victorian villas and commercial buildings which would be a shame to dilute too much with new development. Especially as we lost lots of our finest examples of "historical" architecture during a high-rise boom in the late 80's, and subsequently. However, there is plenty of areas around and within those suburbs that are absolutely ripe for development yet proposals still come under fire from the NIMBY brigade. We are lucky that the attitude around density has changed significantly over the past decade - partly due to congestion and the realisation that effective public transport requires denser population centres, partly a shift in public policy - but it still occurs and often with the most bizarre objections 😂

[@robininthecity8814]

It’s all about the the biggest investment many people will ever make losing money. In the US, Property values go down as density goes up.

[@tobydissel]

European here, sadly we also have NIMBYism. Sometimes they have a point, but more often than not they do not but still get a platform in the media and can influence over politics

[@ApollonDriver]

The issue nowadays is that a group of people want nothing to change, and another group wants to change EVERYTHING. Both groups without a sense. And the people with sense and wants something in the middle is low in numbers.

[@AodhMacAuliffe]

That's just ignorant centrism. One side continues to think housing is nothing more than a way to make money, while the other wants to help people buy houses under 100k for a small apartment.

[@ApollonDriver]

@@AodhMacAuliffe I'm not talking about houses only, I'm talking about EVERYTHING and NOTHING. And in this context, the people that wants everything to change aren't the people that wants to give people affordable houses as these people want to do that while not changing the area in a ridiculous way.

[@AodhMacAuliffe]

@@ApollonDriver That's normal though. Cities and blocks change all the time due to either human or environmental factors. Resisting such change is stupid and reactionary. The good of the people is more important than someone's housing value.

[@func8211]

@@AodhMacAuliffe Anti centrism usually comes from terminally online reactionary socialist and commies who have no appreciation of nuance.

[@AodhMacAuliffe]

@@func8211 >reactionary >socialist I don't think you understand what either of those words mean. Having affordable housing and realistic zoning isn't socialism. Look at the Netherlands or Japan, they have much better city planning than the US/Canada and neither of them are socialist.

[@kaiserteddie9564]

maybe you could buid some public housing like actull public housing like in singapore

[@fzerox3663]

How are we on Episode 13 already?

[@huuphuc333]

Hi Pres. Can you build a city japanese style?

[@TfromJkl]

NIMBYism is very much an issue around all around Europe (altough less in the former communist countries, where it could definitely be beneficial). For example, here in Finland, a sole NIMBY individual or NGO without a relationship to the neighbourhood in question, can stop projects on their tracks in limbo for several years without ramifications. Even the term NIMBY is recognized and used in many non-English speaking countries since 2010s, beyond uban development / urbanist geeks, who first encounred it in mid-2000s.

[@TheMagnificentish]

Are you going to plop encampments? They are part of the housing fabric of the Bay Area, unfortunately.

[@tgutz7019]

I watch these videos to get my fix of skylines cause I’m too dog shit to actually build something like this

[@gearandalthefirst7027]

"The ultimate californians" *californians have entered the chat*

[@keilanwinston9100]

Can we get a sports team like baseball or football

[@SaltyPO]

Speaking as someone who has owned his home since 1988, and has seen its worth drop by $40k in the last ten years while my taxes keep going up - guess why? A new development of condos and 4-plexes that are mostly rentals. Some look like absolute trash as the transient renters dont care if the place looks like crap because they have no real ties to the area. You lose $40k and tell me how YOU feel about it after. Im with the nimbys, thank you.

[@tbestig4164]

If you’re going to treat a house like an investment you need to be prepared for the value to go down from time to time.

[@SaltyPO]

@@tbestig4164 I've lived here 33 years, it's hardly a flip and dump investment property.

[@tbestig4164]

@@SaltyPO Then why are you upset about the value going down?

[@SaltyPO]

@@tbestig4164 if you can't understand why I'm upset I've lost value and my neighborhood now looks like shit, then I feel sorry for you.

[@tbestig4164]

@@SaltyPO Angry that your house won’t magically increase in price forever and angry that poor people are living near you You didn’t lose 40k, you spent money to buy something 33 years ago and still own it.

[@MatthiasPowerbomb]

"These historical preservation 'pretexts' are really hurtful." Wow, man. This kind of crap is the reason I typically watch your videos with the sound off. And when I don't, you're usually right on time to remind me.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

You must be fun at parties...

[@MatthiasPowerbomb]

@@dragonbornexpress5650 More fun than the guy lecturing everyone about something they didn't come to the party to be lectured about.

[@unfvzedmak]

This is the same crap that is happening in my city people are resisting growth by attacking developers for wanting to build new building in downtown and get mad when a developer want to build some apartments on an empty lot in a historic neighborhood which in my opinion makes a beautiful mix and trying to convince city commission to ban highrises and it’s absolutely annoying to see these people trying to prevent growth thats part of the reason we are overlooked by major city because these people don’t want new venues and buildings to be built when we have the opportunity to grow quicker than we are right now

[@goldfishkaden1539]

Pres I don't think you have to establish where it is because technically the area doesn't exist??? so it doesn't have to be an area it can just be inspired based on an area

[@holdenellis1395]

N ot I n M y B ???? Y ????

[@teepicgamer73]

Back Yard

[@holdenellis1395]

@@teepicgamer73 ty

[@ikarosouza9505]

Just imagine making it illegal to develop what's probably the the best type of zoning for a neighbourhood. No one would be that dumb right?

[@jeremyketz8862]

In other words you want to take good neighborhoods and turn them into crap, with people who don't give a damn about taking care and responsibility for their homes so neighborhoods remain safe, nice and healthy. The problem is not people who have worked hard for their homes they have, it is those people who want to take what is not theirs, the real problem is not neighborhoods with good bones; the problemis our horribly high taxes in California and those who wantto take what others already own. This is the worst video you have ever made, ridiculous.

[@anthonyg7584]

bruh nimby moment 🤣

[@phillyzfynest7]

Would you like some cheese with that wine? 😂😂😂

[@archontiverius]

Ah yes, because owners of new flats or townhouses totally don't have a vested interest to also keep the areas they live in safe, nice and healthy. /s

[@seanjankowski9016]

I agree completely. Happening in rust belt cities to a horrible degree as well--old beautiful and diverse neighborhoods (a la streetcar neighborhoods) turned into literal slums. And to address Liam's point, they fail to acknowledge that in many neighborhoods these old homes are not owned but rather rented out by slum lords for cheap, which just exacerbates the problem. Their interest is not in the neighborhood, but rather their profit.

[@archontiverius]

I mean fair. But there's a difference between mass real estate developers demolishing perfectly fine townhomes to build investment properties in the form of 20 story condo towers for people buying their seventeenth house to rent to the less financially fortunate, and desolate unused plots being repurposed into developments that match the areas style and the needs of the locals. The failure seems to be more zoning looking at it from an outsiders (am not American) perspective. Any new development in my town is effectively mixed use, and has to follow height limits and be a similar architectual aesthetic to the areas original buildings. I can walk past a 3 story apartment block made last year, and it'd look no different to the naked eye to something made in the 30's except maybe that it has more (see, any) parking.