A Quiet Place - How to Ruin Fear in 7 Seconds

A Quiet Place finally released on digital download and blu-ray, and turns out it is a good movie. Unfortunately, it's not really a horror movie and definitely not truly as scary as it could have been -- because of one single moment.
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[@nazgardthecartographer6172]

The sequel is going to be named "loud place". It's going to be about peaceful monsters hiding from that woman with a shotgun.

[@NurseOrysia1]

Lmao

[@ruffuls4212]

So that was a fucking lie

[@ethansmith2360]

Doom music intensifies

[@birb125]

Ngl, this man predicted the sequal

[@entool7]

And everyone knows there's nothing more lethal in american movies than a pissed off mom with a shotgun.

[@rollingkirby]

“How to ruin fear” “Film perfection” *Visible confusion*

[@ctrl_x1770]

They perfected the art of ruining fear

[@holdencross5904]

@@ctrl_x1770 and set a new bar for the level of fear

[@LordSplynter]

I mean, the movie was pretty good

[@rollingkirby]

@@LordSplynter yeah

[@drained_yayo]

So it’s a failure at horror but a masterpiece at being a movie

[@superfire6463]

I could see them showing that scene in broad daylight being a way of showing that you are never safe. Wherever you are, if you make a sound, you are dead......so a thriller, not a horror....

[@shealupkes]

Less the scene more that particular shot

[@wibblewobble1566]

I feel really annoyed with the fact that, come on, none of the characters have to fart, or sneeze or snore

[@Nick_CF]

@@wibblewobble1566 and no one in this nightmarish reality has night terrors and ptsd freakouts. Scream in your sleep and your are dead.

[@wibblewobble1566]

@@Nick_CF yea it’s not like they would have nightmares about their dead family member or them scary monsters

[@werecoth]

@@Nick_CF more like the people who had those are already dead and those still alive are jaded enough with their reality, that though devastated, it doesn't reach that level.

[@zer0sum642]

"The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown." -H.P. Lovecraft

[@blackjack5167]

@GodlessPeaceSign lmaooo

[@schizosnake]

@GodlessPeaceSign nword man

[@criticaloma5842]

Or you get scared cause you know too much

[@allgameriot1291]

why did i read that as 'the oldest anarchy server of minecraft'

[@philcollinslover56705]

@@allgameriot1291 bruh hahaha 2b2t

[@SpottedHares]

Horror is fear, thriller is tension. Fear requires the unknown , tension requires the know.

[@satriadicky3732]

@ sometimes pain bring pleasure too

[@satriadicky3732]

@Aspire sadist too

[@tendericed2749]

@ well yes you are correct but in Films we are literally watching snd not directly experiencing it, automatically giving distance to the situation showcased and security to us, the viewer, that we are save. This ultimately makes it more complex to trigger the right reactions in the audience

[@DrMontgomeryMontgomery]

Sounds cool but in practice this isn't true. Your fear of the unkown is perhaps one of the strongest fears we can experience but fear of what is known to come can be torturously scary nonetheless. Fun fact: the fear of being tickled is actually a stronger sensation than actually being tickled. Without knowledge, I don't even think you'd be scared at at all.

[@angelman906]

@@DrMontgomeryMontgomery yes, I remember when my family would just put their hands near me and I would fall down laughing; our brains are fucking weird.

[@EeDog2]

bird box is a perfect example of why you still need to show some of the monster, leaves blowing around gets real old real fast and isn't scary

[@eljonny659]

The intent was to be a horror though, which made it suck. It tried to be A Quiet Place but blind, but didn’t write a good enough film

[@surprisedchar2458]

Bird Box is literally just The Happening but with an even more questionable cast.

[@michaelhixson6939]

so true, felt very subverted by the nonexistent monster. It was very similar to the Shamalan movie about plants causing everyone to scuicide.

[@brandonfoley7519]

Some, just a hint Like a shadow

[@timothycarter5871]

Here comes Char! With a film critique. I wonder if Amuro has a rebuttal.

[@tanuki2898]

I dunno, it's a common trope for the monsters to only be out at night, and for you to only be vulnerable in the dark. I think it's a scary thought that the monster can get you no matter how bright it is outside, no matter how safe you feel.

[@bladabladabloo]

That doesn't mean that they had to show the monster.

[@dingfeldersmurfalot4560]

I agree. Lots of movies have monsters in the daylight.

[@AIIXIII0]

@@bladabladabloo yup. Daylight or not.. they can just cut to the clip when the boy got tackled from John's view. That would've been awesome. The thought of "What killed the kid?" will loomed.

[@guragurashaak7383]

@Jess yeah good job calling a person names because you disagree with them instead of actually making counter arguments to prove that they're wrong

[@swinelias]

@@guragurashaak7383 who?

[@ryanlahart534]

The creepiest scenes of the movie were when the girl never knew the monster was there because she was deaf. That movie was masterful in building tension.

[@griffinkelley8785]

Quiet place: the day the military apparently took a break

[@danielbras9753]

In the movie, they actually show a newspaper saying that the US military got defeated!

[@josephrobinson6171]

Daniel Brás Yeah but the idea that a military that already owns shit tons of sonic weapons and armour piercing weapons loses to some fast listen-y bois is just not believable within the context of the world presented in the movie (our world)

[@danielbras9753]

@@josephrobinson6171 tbh I think it would be possible, you don't really know how many aliens there were in the invasion, and they didn't know the weakness of the alien, so they wouldn't know how to kill them in a easy way!

[@lordvoldemort1561]

@@danielbras9753 There are several hints like that hidden in the movie. You just have to look closely.

[@lordvoldemort1561]

@@josephrobinson6171 They had no idea what their weakness was to begin with? It's not like the Military sees them land and goes "okay, time for our supersonic weapons". And they wouldn't be like "let's test our sonic weapons on these freaks", either. They tried the basic stuff first, and while they did, they were quickly eradicated, because the Monster were fast, agile and the slightest noise triggered them. So, imagine being that Monster and what an entire Army of people shooting at it would sound like. That's right : Like free manslaughter.

[@likethemovies8991]

The thing is, this movie isn't really about the horror. It's a survival movie, not a horror movie.

[@mathewclaveria7657]

Did you missed the part of the video where he showed articles claiming that the film was the scariest horror film and he said that he disagrees with them?

[@Mr.Scott86]

@@mathewclaveria7657 those are articles, we all know how "journalist" can be plus there is a difference between horror and thriller, I don't disagree with you I'm just adding information

[@T_E_G]

@@mathewclaveria7657 Your profile! X3

[@sheepy1568]

Actually john krasinski said it was mostly a family movie

[@Valkbg]

@@Mr.Scott86 Your information was useless.

[@ooofyikes7253]

This movie provided me the best cinema experience I have ever had, the fact that an entire audience unanimously decided to not dare make a noise during the silence is why I respect this movie and it's concept so much Good film, 8/10

[@vyor8837]

and then you consider that if a gunshot can render humans deaf... what would it do to something even more sensitive?

[@teddanville6996]

@@vyor8837 and then you should consider rewatching the movie, cuz what give you the idea that the monsters are afraid of loud noise? What they afraid was the loop noise created by the hearing aid catching the radio transmitter in the room in the last scene. Ever go to a karaoke and point the microphone toward the speaker and it makes a really high pitch sound? That’s what the aliens are afraid of.

[@vyor8837]

@@teddanville6996 It wasn't even fear, that was a physiological reaction of *extreme pain*.

[@codylawson1257]

Best experience you've ever had.... 8/10. Wtf does it take to please you? lol

[@ooofyikes7253]

@@codylawson1257 wouldn't you like to know

[@TheSilliestWilly]

The one thing I will say in defense of that choice is by sticking with your "It Follows" analogy. The reason that "It Follows" falls apart during the beach scene is because when the monster finally catches up to the protagonist, we see that all it does is punch people and throw chairs. That is not scary.... however Here, in "Quiet Place," the danger that these creatures represents is unmistakably established early on. They don't punch or throw chairs. They don't do something like capture and take people back to some sort of hive or ship, where there would be the possibility of later rescue before that person is killed, or impregnated, or fed to the queen alien, or whatever. With these creatures, if you make noise then it is instant and certain death. While spoiling some of the fear of the unknown, this effectively raises the stakes and makes it clear that this isn't the typical horror movie villain that stalks his prey and only strikes from the shadows when a character is alone. Instead, these things just immediately and violently kill anyone who makes noise, day or night, adult or child, alone or in a group. Also, without pausing the film, the thing flies by so quickly that it didn't entirely spoil the monsters for me because I think that is different than when we get a good, in focus look at them later with their massive jaws and weird faces. Just my two cents anyways

[@donniehollingsworth1611]

Exactly, I’m real time it is just a flash in the screen you’re like what was that… plus most horror movies show the monster…it’s not seeing the monster as much as when will it appear what is the plan why is it doing this still all unknown

[@delilasloan8914]

I thought it follows was creepy..when it showed the monster would fuck you to death, violently while looking like a zombie demon that took over a person..the girls leg broken on the beach and that boys mother violently attacking him and raping him so hard it tore his body apart The guy here forgets those scenes..it walks to you slowly and takes it time and will hit you but that is all leading up to the violent fucking...and To me, that was really scary. Lovecraftian monsters do not scare me that much..but if course being stabbed to death would be scary.

[@meisterwu8922]

100% agree. Also that scene was LOUD (at least in cinema) further obscuring your sense of vision as to what exactly got him. Yes we technically saw it in its entirety. But from that point onward did we all really know precisely what it looks like? Aside from long arms and brownish color? Thinking about this i'd say it's a massive counter argument against this entire video. Having a creature fully shown but STILL not 100% knowing what it looks like, just because these things are that fast.

[@thepoliticalstartrek]

I think the bigger problem is the CGI removal of the creatures mustache.

[@AngeliTomato333]

Yeah, but at least the movie make up for it by the De-aging CGI they done to the younger child I mean just look at the kid he looks so young.

[@MissMedeiros]

LOL

[@alexceous]

what about the dog? that actor did a great job with that makeup!

[@2Siders]

I was the 400th like on this comment _FeelsGoodMan_

[@Shakiahjprod]

Ikr so obvious. The whole movie I couldn't stop looking at it

[@spamlord3531]

i remember that moment when the boy was killed my girlfriend started laughing hysterically. i think she might be a psychopathic killer

Perhaps she's the same as me, when my friends screamed, I just laughed, and one of them elbowed me for that. Been having like that whenever there's a scary scenes or jump scares in horror movies since high school. My brain's defense mechanism... I think?

[@kfcisntindians5079]

I'm Sorry for Being Kind Probably because this whole movie is a joke.

[@dutchvanderlinde5218]

Kfc Isn't indians lol you are a joke

[@kfcisntindians5079]

Joel Miller If you honestly think this was a good movie you have the attention span and intelligence of a fucking goldfish

[@dutchvanderlinde5218]

Kfc Isn't indians you dont have very good taste ill tell you that

[@roobaby40]

"You didn't put a silencer on the shotgun" ~ COD player

[@zer0theassassin60]

Filmento: how the quiet place ruins fear in seven seconds Title: film perfection Me: Confused confusing confusion

[@22damian93]

Man the Keemstar cameo killed me...thank you for that!

[@xara505]

The most horrifying monster of all!

[@ImpossibleIsNothin]

What's the name of the song that cripples Keemstar again?

[@holyralface019]

ImpossibleIsNothin search this: “you reposted in the wrong neighborhood” you’ll find it

[@priscillacofield6620]

No it killed the kid

[@07citychamp]

Bruh I can't fucking breathe

[@calebalwayswill7423]

"oh God, he...~THrEw ThE ChaiR At HeR!~ That cinema bit had me dying

[@AlessandroMarques95]

Not the hair dryer!

[@tam2237]

Caleb Alwayswill “NoT tHe TyPeWrItEr!!!”

[@udontfeelsogood9037]

NoT tHe ToAstEr! oH mY gOd

[@udontfeelsogood9037]

I cAn'T tAke ThiS aNymOre

[@T_E_G]

@@udontfeelsogood9037 same tho

[@swuq5396]

"It punches people" shows scene of dude getting thrown multiple ft

[@jackalope2302]

It's one hell of a punch. He took a body shot from the Predator

[@lando7278]

I’m not saying he doesn’t know what he’s talking about but the movie wasn’t meant to be solely about the monsters but was more about the love of the family and the scene where Boe dies and the later scenes of the entire family grieving was meant to show how much they loved him tying into the theme familial love. Still I respect his opinions anyways

[@tokisugar]

I dont think he was critizizing the scene in general, I think he was only referring to that one shot.

[@loogi_101]

I don’t really think that was the point of the video here. He didn’t say it was meant to be a horror movie, but rather was only saying why it *wasn’t* an effective one, in response to those who were saying that it was a horror movie. He was just addressing the monsters in regards to them as elements for the purpose of horror, and dismissed them as not being effective in their purpose as a source of horror. Please, I do not wish to be rude whatsoever, but I think you may have just missed the point. But I, personally, found the movie to be but an ordeal. I just couldn’t bring myself to care about the characters at all... :/

[@AIIXIII0]

He said it is a great movie and this video is for those who categorised it as horror. That's all.

[@imhappy._.]

They fucked knowing these monsters exist. Let that sink in lol

[@EskChan19]

None of which he even remotely criticized. Have you watched the video at all? He outright states the movie is good, but he only explained why this movie is a thriller and calling it a horror movie is plain wrong. That's all that is to it. When someone tells you that Lord of the Rings is a Sci-Fi movie, do you think saying "Actually it's a fantasy movie" means they think the movie is bad?

[@christoskoukas8856]

In your whole video you talk about "fear of the unknown" and i agree that it makes for a way scarier movie but by showing us the monster from the very beginning it indicates that the point of the movie aren't the monsters and how scary they look but instead about the family, how they have adjusted their lives to survive and most importantly the love that the father shows towards his children especially at the end where he saves them... Anyways those are my thoughts

[@toasingtoast2034]

Totally agree. This isn't a jump scare horror movie where they hide the monster so the people can get jump scared by leaves hitting the ground for 90 minutes. Its about the family and the monsters are there so that there can be conflict and tension

[@Dananator101]

Yet it's a horror film and not a character study....... Btw; I would love a character study film in this universe, but that's not what this movie is.

[@toasingtoast2034]

@@Dananator101 you dont need jumpscares to be a horror movie

[@Dananator101]

I know that, I hate jumpscares actually (oh, btw, this film had some. don't act like they aren't in there)

[@toasingtoast2034]

@@Dananator101 never said there weren't jumpscares, I just said it wasnt a movie that was only scary because of the jump scares (the movie It is a good example of just jumpscares)

[@Egenix52]

I think the point of the entire film was not : fear the creatures in the shadows, but fear the noise you're making, fear your habits of loosing focus and making noise. If anything, the movie was closer to a post-apocalyptic world (kinda like it comes at night) than cloverfield.

[@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw]

Exactly

[@ikilltrees666]

Isn’t this actually post apocalyptic? I mean aliens have taken over Earth right? (I haven’t seen A Quiet Place yet tbh) just askin

[@Egenix52]

@@ikilltrees666 It is post apocalyptic but not an horror movie is what I was trying to say

[@ikilltrees666]

Egenix52 cool beans, makes sense. I’m going to have to watch this one ASAP.

[@kidlitfanful]

@Zygy __ Seriously, I never realized how LOUD Peanut M&M's (my usual theater snack) are until trying to eat them quietly while watching this.

[@FurryEskimo]

I haven’t seen the film, but seeing the monster doesn’t remove All the unknowns. Most of the film is fear of what will happen, if they’ll be caught, right?

[@dingfeldersmurfalot4560]

Yes. Also whether their wayward daughter will get herself or all of them killed. Or their baby. There are so many way to get caught.

[@AIIXIII0]

I mean, it will get scarier with the unknown element. He's just pointing out why it's not an effective horror movie rather a good thriller.

[@codybrumley80]

I mean they should’ve used if not fear of the unknown, the fear of what the monsters can do. The “exposition” white board was great foreshadowing but if we got more showcases or stories about what actually happens when you get caught other than just a really loud WHOOOSHHH. It’d also be a better or scarier movie

[@imhappy._.]

If you consider the fact that they fucked without protection, in the middle of this monster alien invasion, it kinda ruins the movie lol.

[@AshwiniR.007]

The monster will catch them. take them home. Give them monster energy drink in part 2.

[@littleredruri]

I don't get why everyone's saying "I wish they didn't show the monster" and "if they never showed the monster the movie would be so much better", as if the shot was long enough for you to even process the shape of the thing at all on a first viewing. For me at least, it was too quick for me to know what the monster looked like, therefore it's not a problem.

[@whitefanful]

You may not get a fully detailed view but on my first view I saw the shape of the body, the way it moved, the way it attacked, the general color, size, and sound. which takes a good chunk of the unknown about it away.

[@gokulsiriah1079]

No one said you should never show the monster, his point is that you should not show the monster right at the beginning of the movie

[@nobody4248]

The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown” -H.P. Lovecraft

[@franciss.6525]

wasn't he really racist

[@meatballdoesstuff5673]

osiris just because he was racist doesn’t de validate his point and it doesn’t erase the fact that he wrote all the horror books that he did

[@meatballdoesstuff5673]

osiris like Walt Disney was a racist but does it erase the fact that he literally started disney?

[@dustyfella]

@@franciss.6525 Like it was terribly uncommon to be racist in the early 20th century

[@Jalmerk]

osiris He was pretty racist, but he also changed Horror and Sci-Fi writing forever.

[@bucket1442]

3:36 My sleep paralysis demon just got a shout out. so proud of him right now.

[@zer0sum642]

Mine is an old woman. Guess she didn’t make the cut.

[@drsipp407]

I get sleep paralysis often, but thank god I don’t see any demons. I just get scared because I can’t move

[@agavesauce]

@@zer0sum642 bro, i completely understand if you dont want to talk about it, but can you please elaborate on that? I've heard several people say that they have an old woman that comes and sits on their chest. thankfully i do not experience sleep paralysis, so could you please explain what the sensation is like? again i completely understand if you dont want to, im just curious lol

[@jarlbalgruufthegreater1758]

@@agavesauce idk if mine was an old woman, but a woman with curly hair in my doorway for sure. I couldn't move for like half an hour then finally could go back to sleep. Only occured me in my parents house and only like 3 times. You are half asleep and your body already made the hormones that restrict you from moving while dreaming and you dream too (these are the demons) but you are aware. Its just a bad experience nothing more

[@agavesauce]

@@jarlbalgruufthegreater1758 so after you were able to go back to sleep with ease? like the woman went away and you weren't scared or were you definitely scared but just too tired to care?

[@TG-wg4tw]

I’ve to disagree to you guys on this, the monster isnt required to be always hidden in order to be scary, it’s how you build up the interaction between it and its victim. The only thing you have to do is put yourself in the victim’s shoes, to feel their emotion, their bond to each other then the fear to loose their love one to that freak from outa space, feel the hopeless thought that flash through their mind when their children was taken away from them and (at that point in the movie) they can’t do anything about it. I’m not so good at express my thought, but that’s pretty much how I think.

[@kardnails8729]

Filmento has a point. What you explained makes for a very good thriller scene, but not so much a horror one.

[@axessenter]

just the way he said:"Not the Typewriter!" like it was actually emotionally hurting him to watch it fall into the pool had me dieing XD

[@YouFightLikeACow]

I wasn't terribly scared, just on the edge of your seat tension the whole time. It was a solid enjoyable movie.

[@adamgray1753]

I agree with you, Victor Chang, but what I don't agree with you is near the end of the movie. The father kills himself for no reason whatsoever. The mother becomes a mighty Mary Sue at the end of the movie. The two children are very stupid most of the time. They ruin so much of this movie outright through their stupidity. This is the unfortunate price of involving children in a horror movie. Children are either POSes who deserve to be torn apart the in-movie monster(s) or act so stupid up to much of the time whereas they seriously detract from the plot, and/or tension of the scene(s) they're involved in. It's also immensely terrible that this movie was based on what I've been told many times on an excellent sci-fi book. The studio executives butchered the author's book enough so they could steal everything from the author with impunity. Typical Hollywood BS right there. If this movie had stuck to it's source material this movie would of been effin' fantastic. Otherwise this was a movie with tremendous potential that got The Last Jedi treatment.

[@themonkeyshead7520]

Adam Gray 1st off no the Mom wasn’t a Mary Sue and 2nd off yes the kids were dumb. They were kids

[@jayjaygolden5123]

Victor Chang idk to me edge on the seat tension /is/ what i qualify as terifyingly scary. Jump scares and gore and obvious visible monstrosities arent scary. Just annoying, gross and often boring

[@Colby-1997]

+Adam Gray This movie is based on an original screenplay and is not an adaption of any novel... I have the original PDF of the screenplay.

[@HowlingFlames]

Adam Gray funny, you're not even name dropping the book. What is it?

[@ro_the_lion]

A Quiet Place isn't treating its monsters like lurking supernatural creatures like many horror films do. It's treating them as an environmental hazard. As a well-known part of the scifi landscape that has to be dealt with on a day to day basis. It has more in common with a zombie apocalypse movie than any of the creature-features you mentioned. It's not cast-against-monster, it's cast-against-world. The entire world has changed. For this reason, it's important to fully see the creatures, to understand the math of their reality. The mystery isn't the creature. That's besides the point.

[@LipyBigPP]

Ro the Lion the point was that it’s labeled as a “horror” movie when its not a horror movie

[@night1952]

Can't agree. Zombies are scary because there's too many of them, so you have to show how many there are, but a monster like this that can overpower by itself a large group of people doesn't need to be shown. That's why Alien is horror while Aliens is action. They could have made this scene show how scary the monsters are because they're everywhere without showing them and with barely any changes: Since they're on a bridge, the monster could have attacked from below without being seen instead of just running around like any wild beast.

[@ro_the_lion]

I see what you're saying, but consider that this scene doesn't happen in isolation. There are too many of the creatures, that's why the ending is so terrifying (if you get into the minds of the characters): even though they can take down one creature with modern technology, the oncoming throngs are almost certainly going to annihilate them, despite the fact of a final 'badass pose' before the cut to black.

[@night1952]

This scene doesn't show how many there are either, you can understand that they're all over the world because of context, also you can show how many there are without showing them. Again, with having one right below the bridge (and maybe adding some not so far noises from other monsters nearby) you're telling the audience they're everywhere. They don't need to rush where you are, they're already there.

[@ro_the_lion]

"They don't need to rush where you are, they're already there." I like that. Though if they were indeed everywhere, as in crouching in every corner, this would be a very short movie! But as you say, yeah, contextual clues are very much relied upon. My main point stands, though, that it is not, in this case, criminal to show off the beast early. Hitting the point hard that they're an ever-present threat, that's more important than the exact shape of the thing. (Especially since they are engineered to be at least partially realistic predators and not supernatural apparitions)

[@Sousabird]

My problem was with how powerful the creatures were, and how they could hear basically anything, I didn't believe that the family didn't just get murdered when it heard them breathing a few feet away from the kid it just killed. You just have to forget their abilities to make it work.

[@bobbyhillthuglife]

yeah that kind of bugged me throughout the movie. they can hear certain things but not others even if they are at the same decibel level? it is inconsistent and just seems to be made to suit what the plot needs at any moment

[@blepies1692]

@@HelghastStalker idk... it seems like the monster prioritizes the most loud noise at the current moment.

[@PhantomMattcraft]

Could be about frequency levels (monster can only hear a certain range). Tho, sounds like that wasnt established in the movie (never watched it).

[@brettb.7235]

Fear of the unknown isn’t the only kind of fear…if someone holds a gun to your head you’re going to be afraid…seeing the monster doesn’t eliminate fear when the monster and what it can do to your family is genuinely terrifying…

[@amerikaOnFire]

I usually agree with your assessments, but on this one I think I will have to respectfully disagree with this particular movie. By showing the creature, in broad daylight no less, was 100% intentional and not a mistake by the director/creative team. Since you know from the start what it is and what it does, you won't be disappointed with the final reveal in the end AND you focus entirely on the family rather than always wanting that monster reveal payoff. Your brain gets used to how the monster looks, how it strikes and you also see how quickly it can act and how dangerous it is. So throughout the whole film the family gets to be the star as opposed to the tension/monster reveal getting to be the star. Also, I love your videos!! I've been catching up and you do a simply fantastic job of not just breaking them down and giving your opinion, but opening the door to conversation about multiple viewpoints and meanings within movies. Thank you for all your work and insights!

[@samwillett6950]

It definitely was intentional to give focus to the family, yes. But it also definitely made the movie less scary. So he's not wrong. So depends on what you want from your movie

[@jamesesparza6893]

not to mention this is not exactly a horror film as much as it is a drama in a sci fi post apocalypse scenario.

[@agasttyadixit09]

When you make a video entirely for money: giving your shit opinions that you are aware of. 10 min video for 7 seconds clip with clearly no idea what you're talking about

[@ourson66]

agasttya dixit, dude ok so you disagree. Do you have to post on every discussion thread the same bs just basically saying the same thing? Sheesh!

[@ceb4007]

agasttya dixit dum dum

[@TerminalNostalgia]

The thing that really bothered me about the scene is how dumb the kid was. He was young, so I accept that he didn't fully understand the situation, but think how much stronger and more realistic the scene would be if: The kid turns the toy on. He doesn't expect the loud sound. He flinches, drops it at his feet. The audience hears it clatter as the family turns around. The kid looks up at his Dad, frightened. His father's expression and him running back terrify the kid. He's frozen in place (or maybe takes a couple of steps back, but still remains near the toy.) It cuts between the father and the terrified boy as the sound of the boy's panicked breathing grows louder and louder until it's the main thing we hear. The boy mouth 'Dad!' The monster slams into him (but cut so we don't get to see more than a slight blur/slashing limb. Cuts back to father.

[@jinkstacks4830]

Terminal Nostalgia Yeah, I thought it was so awkward the way they made that. A solution like this would have improved the story a lot in my opinion. That scene kind of left a bad taste in my mouth right from the get go.

[@TerminalNostalgia]

Jinkstack S I think it's probably because realistic reactions make or break a scene in a horror movie and having the kid completely ignore the expressions and reactions of his family (that would still have been at least in his peripheral vision while playing with the toy) just didn't make any sense. You can convince small children that fantasy things, both wonderful and terrible, exist, so with all the proof about the monster, the child had every reason to understand sound=big scary monster that will eat you.

[@Rysuko1]

I agree, making the character so emotionless and not understanding the consequence of it's actions made the moment weaker to me. As young as he is he should had understood the implication.

[@johnfisher1846]

Also its set up in the first few minutes of the movie that the kid doesn't really understand whats going on, its beyond apparent the kid just doesn't get the gravity of situation they are in, so I cant understand why the parents WOULD STOP WATCHING HIM. He clearly doesn't know the danger of making noise so why the hell wouldn't the parents keep him in line of site at all times such as walking in front of the mom so she can keep an eye him, they are the worst parents ever! and this is an issue in the movie as a whole, every character just makes astonishingly bad decision's seemingly just so that they can be in danger so the movie has conflict and progression.

[@nreeldeep1]

@@Rysuko1 You sound stupid. He's a kid. If kids were able to understand the implications like adults they wouldn't need parents to take care of them. They'd be living on their own at 5 years. Were you allowed to stay outside by yourself after midnight when you were five? Were you allowed to cook when you were five? Were you allowed to choose to drink or smoke when you were five? There's a reason why kids live with their parents until they get into their teens: THEY'RE STILL LEARNING TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THEIR ACTIONS. Smh

[@citruscrown4940]

I disagree. The we barely see a glimpse of the monster at in that first scene and it sets up an important factor. Sight doesn't mean much. It is the noise. A gun is no less scary even if you can see it on screen and neither is a shark. The movie's greatest strength and something that sets it apart from others is that it quickly lays the majority of its cards on the table. The fact that you can see the gun, the shark, the monster, but can do nothing about it once it strikes, is the scary part. The movie creates the deepest fear without using the usual tactics like hiding the monsters appearance or facts about them. Instead it gives the characters and us a huge amount of information with which we can try to think of how to survive. Its the prime example of show not tell and that it's strength in horror. You see a blind girl and you instantly see hundreds of ways that puts her in danger, makes her dangerous and the strengths it provides. I got more fear seeing the womans pregnant belly for the first time than I did in any jump scare of another movie. The movie's fear isnt drawn from the monster itself but rather everyday things. It takes things that we take for granted and puts them in a situation where they are deadly. I feel that the fear it creates is more intimate than any horror film ive seen and the way the characters are often within feet or inches of the monsters only adds to that. It wouldn't be the same if they suppressed the monsters appearance and they simply dont need to. There are so many delicate peices being balanced to make this movie feel so intimately scary and I feel like hiding the monster would feel cheap in it's context and take the focus away from the sound which is the centerpiece of the whole experience to add some cheap tension of "how does it look like tho?"

[@randolph84brown]

preach!

[@samfeels5608]

Nice

[@iphito7539]

nice

[@nbucwa6621]

So well said!

[@Usario321]

Exactly, that scene was one of the best of the movie, you wouldn’t expect the youngest kid to die like this… it’s very powerful, and we barely get to see the monster, we get a glimpse of it and that’s it, which is much better than covering it with rocks or a tree in front of the camera…

[@julianjpantoja4603]

I get his point, but the fear of the unknown is more related to a specific kind of horror, lovecraftian horror, or cosmic horror. Not seeing the creature here works as it’s established the monster does not have a specific form or shape, it’s all up to interpretation. If the monster is scary, and you can see it all the way through, the movie looses the element of surprise since the very beginning, but can still make up for a scary movie if the monster shows something that will maintain the audience in terror. The *It* movie understands this as the clown changes shape according the the kids fear, but still fails to scare as he doesnt bring much else to the table. My point is, when writing a monster, you have to give him sufficient characteristics and aspects that will maintain the audience thrilled, maybe add something new once in a while. The first Alien movie is a good exemple of this. You can see the monster pretty early on, but the acid blood, the double mouth, it’s ability to survive everything is what keeps the tension going. The moment you think you know about the monster, the movie throws something new to destabilize the audience

[@BlueGuise9]

That's a very interesting point! I'm making a note of that!

[@DashawnLoves]

I get the "audience discovering the monster as the characters are" aspect. It's just that can be very messy in writing if not taken in moderation. You still have to set ground rules for the visible monster. It's still physical so of course there will automatically be limitations vs cosmic horror where the limitations are almost non-existent or if there is, it isn't within reach of humans. If we followed your logic, it would ruin the fear/thriller aspect of the story, because at that point just adding whatever to the monster to be more scary, just ruins the realism that horror movies based themselves on

[@julianjpantoja4603]

@@DashawnLoves i understand adding stuff for the sake of adding it is pretty pointless. When writting cosmic horror, your monster has near unlimited power and is practically unstoppable. That is why it is important to state what your monster *represents* before stating what it looks like. That way, the audience has a reason to keep watching the movie. Otherwise, if the treat is unimaginably enormous, people will loose interest pretty fast. I totally agree with you, you gotta put some limit to your monster. Again, in the *It 2* movie, Pennywise is considered to be this unbeatable entity, but then it was mentioned it could be defeated and had been defeated before. By setting limits to your creature, you make it more "realisitic", but by setting limits and new abilities, you get something unexpected without being too overboard. In the end, the nerd club defeated Pennywise, but at a high cost, the life of their homie. (I dont particularly like the *It* movies but i thought it was a good example)

[@jafd239]

Both "It: Chapter 1" and "A Quiet Place" sort of set up their monsters the same way. We see them in the first scene murdering a child just cause. A lot of horror movies suffer from the trope of kids being kind of invulnerable (or they're dead before the movie starts), so killing off a kid right away lets the audience know that the monster will kill anyone as soon as the moment presents itself.

[@DronesOverTheMoon]

movie still shitty tho

[@leonthesleepy]

My only problem with the movie is the weak ending. That shotgun cut to black was so strangely cheesy

[@GurrenLagann98]

I personally enjoyed the cheese. For an overall bleak movie, the shotgun pump was rather hopeful.

[@leonardofarias8843]

Wyatt Townsend We already knew how its was going to continue they cut away you know why

[@bwhite8187]

Nah. Perfect way to end it. Hopeful and kick ass

[@EliTheGleason]

that was amazing, 2 hours of debilitating pain and stress, and then that one, beautiful fuck you to the monsters

[@chesterpanda]

That shotgun pump was a sound of hope, before the shotgun was a last resort that had to be loaded under a blanket. Now they have the advantage and can save themselves and possibly their neighbors as well.

[@philboom9136]

John Krasanski did it purpose. He wanted the audience to concentrate on the family not on the threat. People's minds wouldnt be with the family during the following scenes. They would be guessing what the monster is and what it looks like. This movie is more a psychological horror movie. It's about what people would do for they're family and children. The only fear the audience is suposed to share with the family on Screen is the fear to lose on of them. This Story could work in many different stories But John used this already existing Story to write a Script about a movie in which a family is trying to stay alive and each member has it's own demons and fears he/she has to overcome.

[@rikaardyyz3039]

Exactly it was plot development to add the strain to the relationship between Father and the daughter who doesn't think she will ever be forgiven for giving him the toy, as LOVED the latter scene where he signs " love you always " or similar just before his own sacrifice 🤗

[@Dananator101]

If it was supposed to focus more on the family rather than the monster, it would've been a character study with horror elements rather than a horror film that tries to make you feel for it's characters (i.e.: what most films should strive for, not just horror films).

[@devOnHoliday]

Never thought of it as a horror movie even before watching it. It was more of an art house film to me.

[@kait112]

I’m a mom. The absolute terror of losing my child this way is enough to make this a compelling scene for me. I was focused on the family and their struggle more than anything. Being a parent can make you realize your absolute worst fear is something happening to your kids

[@gamemations5066]

nah

[@rosyfeather468]

I love how you changed the names to a cloverfield place and it punches

[@sharkentist1232]

The reason the movie was actually scary for me is that I missed the start

[@smellybuttbread]

Then you wont understand why his points are wrong.

[@coconutwater7017]

that keemstar thingy scared the shit out of me

[@leviiathan9733]

God Himself lool

[@thelastfeelbender]

God Himself Why have you abandoned us?

[@blazeiscool65]

9:26

[@tomdaniel872]

LETS GET RIGHT INTO THE NEWS

[@jamstonjulian6947]

It Punches. Stephen King meets Steven Seagal.

[@NPC-nn4qe]

I'd pay to see that shit!

[@gentlemen.7621]

I found reading the backrooms wiki more terrifying.

[@funkydanieluk]

A monsters that has great hearing, attacking them with sound is literally the FIRST thing I would try. How can no one have come up with it before?

[@eeeee6431]

A typical Fortnite channel should have the required volume of screaming.

[@humbertocobian4740]

How much sound would you need to make it incapacitated. If you fuck it up then all you've done is attracted a bunch of them. Not everyone has huge speakers and static to fuck up their sense of hearing.

[@WhatAreYouBuyen]

Everytime a new horror movie comes out, someone gets paid to say "it's the scariest movie ever"

[@folo4352]

Lmao that's so true like how a movie comes and they say "number one movie in America"

[@bradleybrad398]

”The best animation youve ever seen..” *proceeds to show footage of food fight*

[@feckinace4987]

XD

[@youling_fozer7855]

WhatAreYouBuyen "I lIkE tHE emOJi MOvIe... AnD i ThInK Its THE BeSt MoViE EveR ._."

[@youling_fozer7855]

They paid me with a donut... That is the value of that film :v

[@bobbyellis5006]

I don't see this as a horror movie at all, completely agree with you on that. This is definitely more a of a thriller. We don't walk away thinking that this is a possibility. We don't go to bed at night wondering if we might wake up to alien creatures trying to kill us in our beds. Also, I'm glad you mentioned "It Follows" because as soon as you said the "fear of the unknown" because the creature itself is perfect for a horror movie. Unseen by anyone outside of the victim and we never figure out exactly what it is, with no motivation.

[@yosam1ty]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Did you ever see Lights Out? It certainly wasn't the greatest horror film, but I did find myself worrying that the monster would appear in the corner of my room when I turned the lights off.

[@bobbyellis5006]

I actually think Lights Out deserves a lot of props in that the characters were actually intelligent and made decent decisions, unlike a lot of horror movies. It may not have been the scariest or best written horror movie out there, but not once did I find myself saying "that character died because they did something really stupid and they deserve it."

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

LOL totallly a thriller

[@maximeteppe7627]

what"s interesting about "it follows", as well as "blink", the famous doctor who episode, is that it relies on cinematic language for it's core concept. Namely, the background of the frame, in the case of it follows. Whenever you have some perspective, you are looking for "it" to enter the frame, usually by moving slowly from the back. The movie makes you worry about long static shots, the same way Blink makes you afraid of cuts and reaction shots. It's a way to design horror uniquely suited to the moving image by using cinematic language not only as a way of presenting the horror, but as a way of being part of the horror.

[@stephenbrown2512]

Bobby Ellis I didn’t like It Follows at all, it was never scary at any point, it was an interesting concept but it just didn’t work as a horror film much, that was more of a thriller. With A Quiet Place, I was tense throughout the film and definitely one of the best horror films in recent times.

[@sajohnson09]

This definitely wasn't a horror movie, it wasn't a thriller either, it and it's sequel are really just sci fi movies with a bit of tension.

[@aidangordon2713]

True, but it is admittedly a _very damn good_ sci-fi movie with a bit of tension. Anyway, what do you think Krasinki will direct next? I think I read somewhere that Ryan Reynolds is going to be involved...

[@purplecoffinman8510]

The reason the monster is so scary is *because* it's shown at the beginning in my opinion. The fact that that monster was able to get from a place presumably so far away from the main characters to Beau before Lee sprinted a few hundred meters at a pretty fast pace is what makes the monster so lethal and as a result, creates fear for the family of making any kind of unnatural noise, and by extent the audience feels that fear and tension, when for example, the mother (I forgot her name) steps on a nail, or when she's giving birth to her new child.

[@benjamingejman8512]

The reasons you gave are not arguments to show the monster. You can tell the monster is fast without that one shot that fucks it up.

[@crazay3983]

I still think the iphone's price tag is the scariest thing ever

[@skadi6750]

Honestly I am more scared of people who actually believe they need the newest Iphone:-D

[@COhlen]

@@skadi6750 I only use apple because its my most trusted brand and its what ive used for a long time now. I'm using and IPhone 6 lul

[@lucaguida4286]

@@COhlen sarcasm right?

[@donpepe8440]

I'm more scared that people actually think apple is good

[@pirate_flop2988]

CRa Z Ay 1000 dollars for an android with a better camera and FaceTime

[@FugiYo]

"Don't show your monster until the end because it's downhill from then." Me: Bird Box

[@mathewclaveria7657]

or..... the entire concept of the bird box monster was stupid.

[@doomzillaX25]

www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/bird-box-fans-scoff-at-movies-unseen-monsters-after-they-are-revealed-on-instagram/news-story/faa2946f8822b3a634a903b3537cab24

[@erikho6936]

@@doomzillaX25 oh, I now understand why they all killed themselves, their all bald babies!

[@xdbetyar]

I thought this movie was bird box. I tjought it was the same exact thing until now

[@heavenlyderpfowl1180]

Have you seen what the bird box monster would have looked like

[@InfiniteEscuro]

Honestly, I think the biggest problem with A Quiet Place (beyond ruining the Fear of the Unknown) is how hyped up the monsters are as being basically absolutely invincible, only to be as easy to dispatch as any other living breathing creature when their armour is out of the way. Despite the fact that they apparently don't eat, can easily survive virtually any environment, including space, and weren't even bothered by re-entry on a meteor on top of the actual impact with Earth. I would have personally preferred and adored the ending where we see the mother kill one of the monsters, if only it just kind've... got back up. Missing a head or not, probably healing as it went; if it doesn't need food, energy, air, so on and so forth, then realistically speaking, if it's already such an impossible being, why not just make them actually impossible? Immortal, and undying? Sure, no room for a sequel, but it would've also in that one moment explained through showing, not telling, how these things honestly wiped out the entire world, given how loud warfare would be and how much that SHOULD have interfered with them and forced their armour open, like the hearing aid blast at the end. But yeah, you're perfectly correct; A Quiet Place straight up isn't a horror movie, it's a tense monster thriller. I don't see any other way of looking at it.

[@samuelbutton7185]

I wouldn't say that the movie was aiming for fear of the unknown, I thought it was going more for a feeling of paranoia. Everyone thought the aliens were unbeatable, that once they had you in their sights, you were done for. And they detect you through little noises, leaves crunching, humming, things like that. You're able to do that stuff in everyday life without consequence. But in that world, innocuous noises are a death sentence, you have to be overly aware of your surroundings and movements to not make a sound, 24/7. You see that sense of paranoia when they hear a distant roar, and they all pause, not making a single movement. That's why the dad liked going to the waterfall, because he could relieve himself from the constant sense of paranoia he had to use to keep him and his family alive.

[@lotusluminance5872]

"It lifts up your hair and it *punches.* " Plot Twist: The entity in It Follows is an enemy Stand. Edit: The JoJo levels in the comments are over 9000 and still rising, please send help guys

[@theterminalstupidityvariet1629]

Yo... is that... a .....

[@thekraken1909]

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[@lost7149]

*WWWRRRRRYYYYY*

[@thekraken1909]

@@lotusluminance5872 You'd think I meant something else. But it was me, Dio!

[@pacoramon9468]

Jason Vorhees is a hamon user.

[@dinsism]

A Quiet Place is a really well crafted film, was not scary for me personally, but was suspenseful all of the runtime

[@wu1481]

Dankest Media Group It's more of a Sci-Fi movie

[@eli3silver]

That the perfect way to describe it honestly. Not scary, just suspenseful.

[@NinjaTyler]

eli3silver which is good as that was the point, focus on the tension and keep you on the edge constantly, knowing what can happen but unsure when it will occur

[@unibrowmexican9001]

Dankest Media Group same here.

[@krusnamrvica7209]

July 2th 2021,almost 3 years have passed and you're still working, just continue on pall, you deserve respect from all of us

[@john_reese]

The biggest problem I had with this scene is breaking my suspension of disbelief. After months of surviving the threat, how would you let a child that is known for not following rules/understanding the situation enough to behave, lag behind the group like that ?

[@vanyadolly]

I feel like even in our world without alien monsters you wouldn't leave your toddler walking at the back like that. Especially on a bridge! Children wander off and trip over their own feet.

[@tobiassanders9455]

simple: hey, daughter, you're responsible for taking care of your brother while we go home. it's time for you to learn responsibility. *daughter fails at her job like humans do; unfortunately, this one cost her brother his life* no suspension of disbelief required.

[@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892]

People need to know the difference between thriller and horror.

[@gagecole4913]

There is a difference, but A Quiet Place is horror. It was marketed at that, it's what the creators intended, and it's the biggest source of themes. You may think it fake to be scary but that doesn't mean it isn't horror

[@notahotshot]

@@gagecole4913, strangely enough it doesn't matter what the creators intended. They did in fact make a psychological thriller.

[@gagecole4913]

@@notahotshot No they didn't. It is a horror film, was made to be that, succeeded at that, and was accepted at that. It is certainly not a psychological thriller at all. Psychological implies mental illness, delusion, or some other way of warping the mind, hence the name. A Quiet Place is a monster horror film that uses suspense to attempt scares.

[@riswald2723]

@@gagecole4913 first, no it is a thriller it does not matter what they meant because if that were true i could draw a bannana say i meant to make it an apple and it's now an apple, second, psychological does not necessary mean mental illness.

[@notahotshot]

@@gagecole4913, so what you're saying is that you have no idea what you're talking about. Good we cleared that up.

[@hridaymehta77]

Do you know what monster behind the door means? Stephen King does this often, he builds up and up and up and when it's finally revealed either its great but mostly the build-up makes the ending generic. Too much build up can backfire...especially when the monster is one-dimentional.

[@yaboiguts1887]

Hriday Mehta yup, the best parts in his books are where the protagonist is kinda figuring out what the threat is. best example of this is probably Salem’s Lot, where Ben is always doubting Matt by thinking he’s paranoid or senile, yet trying to believe him until he sees a vampire himself

[@andreashort310]

I don't think King is a good example. As an intuitive writer, King is naturally bad at writing endings, since they're not planned.

[@21minute]

I only read one of his books (IT) and I find its ending to be really satisfying. I have Misery on my bookshelf just waiting to be read. I'll see if that's great as well. On another note, I liked the Netflix adaptation of Gerald's Game but I heard quite a lot of negative reviews of both the film and the book.

[@sadman7021]

misery is great, and geralds game is a bit boring at times, but meh

[@morphman86]

King's main strength is that he keeps the big baddie hidden from everyone for most of the story. His main weakness is that he keeps it hidden from himself as well, and that shows. When he finally gets to writing about the big baddie, he just throws whatever comes to mind at the time. So never ever read a King novel thinking you'll get a great payoff. The satisfying part of a King novel is never the payoff. It's the characters and the buildup and everyone's reactions, both during the buildup and right after the payoff. The payoff itself is just there to facilitate the story, drive it forward. Thinking back, I can't even remember what the Tommyknockers were, or what actually made the Buick drive itself or what made the Mangler evil. But I remember what the characters did, how they reacted and how it felt reading about them during dark and stormy nights. And THAT is what fear of the unknown is about. THAT is what the monster behind the door means. THAT is how you do a mystery box (yes, we have to throw in a jab at Steven Moffat while we're at it, thinking he invented the trope :P ).

[@harrisontyrrell7636]

I love the the keemstar gag at the start... Laughing my ass of right now.

[@fortunatecookie]

Counter argument to the whole “never show them during the day” thing: Candyman.

[@Veins1]

Love your channel. But Tremors was a good example of the effectiveness of revealing your monster in broad daylight. I'm tired of movies that are too dark to see anything and they use cheap camera tricks to obscure everything. Knowing what the enemy can do is far more interesting to me. Thriller and Horror is hard to tell apart sometimes.

[@distantsea]

Predator also works in this way

[@ulrichweiss9912]

I don't consider either of those to be horror films.

[@SaintSC05]

Tremors is not at all a horror movie

[@bluesloth4142]

How about the THing?

[@vee1267]

Bluesloth “The Thing” is actually a pretty interesting example. It shows it’s monster right at the end of the first act, then preserves that sense of “fear of the unknown” in a different way. Instead of playing on that fear by hiding what the monster looks like, it does so by hiding WHO the monster looks like. Who’s been infected? Who’s human? Who’s five seconds away from mutating into an alien beast that’ll eat you alive? Who can you trust? The film forgoes uncertainty of what the creature is, in favor of good ol’ paranoia. Alien does something similar; shows the monster at the end of act 1 with the chestburster scene & then leaves you anxious about WHERE the monster is - it could be right above the characters and they’d have almost no idea because it’s hiding out in the ventilation system.

[@drunkyteddy7407]

''The fear of the unknown is terrifying'' Fuck, now Prop Hunt in Garry's Mod scares me ''Is that a prop or a person? OH GOD HE'S A SAUSAGE''

[@sergeantwrath5497]

Gmod prop hunt just got real

[@itsnotpaul8548]

I mean it's gmod shooting a raptor being ridden by an anime horse girl with a pickle Rick bazooka is basically normal

[@OverlordGezora]

“It’s sad that the dad wasn’t as fast as keem. He could’ve gotten a headstart and saved the kid. But sadly the monster is mutated keem”

[@krazna1302]

I just watched it and you are absolutely right. I was never scared but i felt the tension. I also think that the sacrifice the father makes is a bit cliché, so I would have change that. It was not a bad movie overall.

[@doepuffs1648]

The reason they showed it at the beginning is because they wanted to establish 1. They are not to kill kids/characters off. And 2. The monsters aren’t the main focus, it’s about a family that has to navigate through having the monsters in their lives but the monsters aren’t the main focus it’s the family. Also the whole build up thing is a bit overused and isn’t always a satisfying reveal.

[@omegastar19]

Your second argument is not actually relevant. Revealing the monster at the start is not necesarry to put the focus on the family.

[@TabroArma]

@@omegastar19 yes it is because You are not thinking about what the monster is. You are thinking how that family tries to survive such a powerfull monster

[@scottwild4200]

If you NEED to show the monster/villain to draw focus on your protagonist/family, you need to learn how to story tell. There are plenty of horror films that put the focus on their characters/family sans revealing the monster/villain too soon or too much. It CAN be done! It's basically the equivalent of cringy dialogue between characters to establish they're actually family/related--e.g. "I am your brother/sister" or something to this effect. We have to be TOLD characters are related rather than be SHOWN. In this case, the family could've been shown walking, their faces full of woe, maybe one of the parents is holding tightly against their chest an item belonging to the dead boy, covered in blood, and every now and then, somebody looks back over their shoulder, we see the boy's body. Basically, body language!

[@yourarseismine1016]

@@TabroArma A good movie doesn't make it's audience focus on just one thing, this scene was unnecessary.

[@henrymcbark7337]

@@knight.99 Would be cool as hell to see the early days of the monsters appearing.

[@Maximalistcollector]

movie: make a scary monster Flimento: wrong, you're ruined the movie

[@a_pufferfish3468]

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[@Artizap_]

A_Pufferfish *you’ve

[@salerac6496]

@@Artizap_ Thou hast*

[@Artizap_]

Ryan Martin There we go

[@tanocastro1739]

@@salerac6496 ah, a man of culture

[@leftyouemptyheanded9215]

That's why bird box is such a good scary movie is not like the scariest movie but just that you can't see the monster you fear the unknown

[@NINJA4AMERICA]

Suspense flicks gotta have a different category from Horror. The anxiety this movie builds throughout the movie is amazing.

[@CrystariumNet]

I agree, scary isn't the right term. On a slightly related note, being that this is a thriller I had my butt cheeks clenched so hard had I put a lump of coal up there id have the objectively best diamond in the world right now....

[@thatsnotgonewellatall5517]

i mean how can any films be scary. its not the unknown. its a film it aint real so how can you fear it

[@basiljohn3953]

@@thatsnotgonewellatall5517 That's a good question. Why do we cry or feel emotions of sadness when developed characters in stories die? Why do we feel so relieved when the main character survives when we think they won't be able to? We know these characters and stories are fake, but then why can they cause similar emotional reactions to real life events anyway? Someone should research it.

[@thatsnotgonewellatall5517]

@@basiljohn3953 I've thought about it and I think I know why. To your subconscious in film and book is the same as reality. It can differentiate between the two, I think this for two reasons. One the power of dreams,we know they ain't real yet they can induce so much emotional turmoil. Secondly also connects to that and it's the grip the human imagination has. It overrides the logic centre of our brain during entertainment and dreams. This can even extend to day dreams. This is why less imagininitive people aren't as effected atleast from my experience. Real life things actually affects me less than things I know aren't real.

[@sigmacademy]

That's some hard core compression right there, friend? What do you do to create pearls? ;P

[@dxshawn532]

@@thatsnotgonewellatall5517 well said i agreee especially the last few lines i think that's why some people don't enjoy these movies as much especially the last few lines, people who are imaginative have a higher level of immersion yeah yeah that's ball i can say right now yeah yeah Sorry if you cant understood what I'm saying im drunk out off my mind's

[@dougersonify]

I know the mystery is usually horrifying. BUT honestly me knowing that there’s unstoppable creatures chasing me and knowing what they do and what they look like DOESNT MAKE THE THOUGHT OF GETTING TORN APART ANY LESS SCARY

[@cbabygags2553]

Yeah this video he made was so poorly done

[@MoLetalis]

He addresses this point as well in the video. You don't need to see the child literally be torn apart in order to know the monster can rip people apart. Without that one second of a jumping monster, the scene would still serve it's purpose: the child is stupid, the parents are stupid for leaving their child so far behind with a toy that makes noise, and there is something horrific in the trees that responds to sound. It's just his opinion, and I share it. I've seen countless horror movies and it are usually the ones in which you don't or barely see the actual threat (until the end) that stick with me the longest. I liked this movie as well, but I didn't think the monster looked anything scary at all.

[@arattactician5697]

It's scary because you don't exactly want to die, as mentioned quite a bit in this comment section it's a basic survival trait. You are still scared of the unknown. If you knew exactly what comes after death if anything and what it feels like to be torn apart and how long it takes for you to pass out and die. It wouldn't be scary. The fear of unknown is EXACTLY the *THOUGHT* of getting ripped apart. It's the WHAT IF. As I said, if you had this magical knowledge about everything, every little detail about what was to happen and there's no changing it, you wouldn't really be scared. You cannot be unafraid of the unknown, there's always something you do not know or are uncertain about. It's how we are.

[@eljonny659]

Especially with the screaming dude. I was panicking so hard because they were in real danger, and hard no way of fighting back. As scary as the unknown is, knowing you can’t fight back is scarier. Once they got a solution at the end, it was scary because they were still working it out and still could’ve died. If they were to make a sequel, which would be cool, it could be a horror. It’d be like a zombie survival film. The aliens are just a plot device at that point, and you have to find new ways of making things interesting (finding other people, finding out how to win the long game, raising a baby in the apocalypse, etc). But in this singular film, everything imo is perfect

[@AlquimistEd]

@@arattactician5697 This kind of thought process that just reduces every single horror down to simply fear of the unknown is really annoying.

[@eyeshut]

Couldn't agree with you more! This reminds me of the movie Signs. I can't remember what genre it was marketed as, but I can certainly remember the fear and tension that was present throughout the whole thing...until the last act when the alien was fully revealed. As soon as we saw the creature, all sense of dread completely disappeared. But Signs did do a really good job at playing with the unknown - the kitchen/pantry scene, the "there's a monster outside my room" scene, and towards the end when the family was hiding in the house as the aliens attacked. That house/attack sequence was a great example of just using sound to keep you on the edge of your seat, and most importantly, still fearing the unknown!

[@hanselfinn8946]

If only the angle when the monster catch him is this and then cut back to the parents and when we see it again it's just gone leaving only the toy or something

[@laurene988]

I don't know, I think the scene is scary too. It shows how fast and deadly the threat is. One noise and its all over. You can't outrun it, definitely can't fight back (that thing is the size of a van- good luck avoiding its reach too with those long ass arms). Really it's hopeless. What can you do other than try to avoid it? Kinda makes the danger feel hopeless and insurmountable. That's scary in its own way.

[@eljonny659]

Exactly. Felt the same way with the scene of the screaming dude. Was left petrified because I knew the ramifications. They were screwed. Or at least should’ve been. But I felt like they were going to get eviscerated. I thought they had zero chance (apart from being a film and usually the good guy wins, etc). Despite knowing what the alien looked like, it didn’t change the fact I was terrified for them. Same with the bathtub scene. I thought. If the alien actually got to her, and it was shown on screen, I would’ve screamed in terror. But they didn’t. They built up the tension. Although it ended “calmly”, it still terrified me for the time she wasn’t ok. Tension and knowing you’ve basically got no chance but to hide and/or basically pray nothing happens. Hope that nothing happens

[@LiquidOzelot]

I get you point but I disagree. I think like the video says that without showing the alien that scene would work better. It will show how fast and deadly the alien is. Is like the first kill in Jaws. But sure the film still works perfect.

[@velkylev4217]

It would be better if we didn't see it . We would still understand and see how fast and dangerous they are , but without seeing the monster you would have your imagination going crazy trying to imagine how it looks . Once you see the monster ,your experience is 50% worse.

[@dyveira]

Against a creature that is only dangerous because the script says so. In real life these things would be dead inside of a month.

[@RL-lc3md]

@@dyveira explain

[@ToastyTstdToast]

God I had forgotten how horrifying that pig mask from saw was, I got chills when that popped up on screen.

[@juliapalos2077]

Masks are horrifying. If you google "victorian halloween costumes" you can see children with the scariest (and cheapest) masks ever. Thank God is not like that anymore.

[@dimitrescu182]

As creepy as that was, The Babadook's face is much more terrifying for me.

[@breadmann9600]

b r o t h e r ?

[@ToastyTstdToast]

@@breadmann9600 i just laughed my fucking ass off

[@butterfriedtoast7659]

@@ToastyTstdToast I have found my people

[@rodolfoleal7295]

I just discovered your channel, and man, what a great sense of humor!

[@TheClassof_1992]

Spielberg is a master at hiding his monsters until the end. Jaws, super 8, Close encounters of the third kind etc. Only in et he shows him early as he is a main character but still introduces him in a mysterious way.

[@jasonalen7459]

7 seconds into the video Sees Filmento logo on face "Yep, that's how you ruin fear in 7 seconds"

[@MaxMiesen]

I feel like the movie's intention wasn't to be a horror film though...

[@Gruseppe]

Max Miesen what was it supposed to be psychological?

[@MaxMiesen]

It's categorized as drama/thriller

[@didiogamer1744]

Yeah i think Filmento got the wrong idea about the beginning of the movie and despite what he says about the fear of the unknow being true, i think A quiet place in order to work u needed to know what was happening, otherwise the movie wouldve been just bad. If he were talking about the NUN i would tottaly agree, but this being about a QUiet Place i think he didnt got the essence of the movie at all.

[@parkchimmin7913]

Isaiah Gutierrez Wouldn’t say that it’s psychological either. Seems more like a thriller/action movie.

[@antinym7722]

no it was

[@paugirones6083]

Maybe they could have replaced the shot of the monster with a POV shot of it attacking the child. That way, you only have a brief idea of what it's capable of.

[@carpetedshower9016]

Not seeing the monster is what makes The Thing so terrifying. Especially since it isn’t an entity, but an infection that takes control of the host, and even they don’t know they’re infected.

[@nerulon089]

Well the only thing that ruined the movie was the last scene where a simple gun can kill the monsters.... I mean don't tell me the military got destroyed... Just imagine those really scary spec ops teams with their super hightech weapons and vehicles.

[@COOOKINGSKSK]

Nerulon Skyven it has armor, if it gets exposed to high frequency sounds will expose weak spots to shoot at. The military didn’t know that its weakness is high frequency sounds so the military was defeated

[@nerulon089]

@@COOOKINGSKSK You honestly believe that the smartest people in the world didn't think about that ? You can't be serious :D

[@COOOKINGSKSK]

Nerulon Skyven they died

[@jennianking84]

@@nerulon089 That's what I thought. They know the creatures have supposedly amazing hearing but don't think to try bombarding them with different frequencies? Also, what's the deal with the creatures? Do they just have super good hearing? If that' s the case, how do they manoeuvre so fast around non-moving objects? Looks more like echo-location, but if that's the case they don't need you to be making noise to know you're there.

[@lund5869]

They would not have a chance

[@zeusy6138]

i think you've completely missed the point of the film. the horror comes from the fact that at any given moment, even though you can't see or hear it and even though it might not be near by, all it takes the slightest noise and you know the alien will be right next to you within seconds. the opening scene showcases his perfectly. the child's toy is making a loud noise and right away the mother covers her mouth and begins weeping, because she _knows_ exactly what's about to happen. also horror ≠ terror. what you describe in this video is terror. horror: seeing a bunch of rotting corpses (especially of people you know) milling about listlessly. terror: hearing the moaning and groaning of the aforementioned corpses without knowing where the noises are coming from.

[@TheRealChrisTDH]

I can’t help but disagree with you. When the monster was attacking the kid, the creature was so obscured and blurry that you never got a good look at it. You also mention that “Now we know what the monster does, it stabs you.”, but the creature could’ve just as easily been grabbing the child, and the fear of the unknown is still there.

[@sir_prize_ma_the_farcar4547]

Nah You are Wrong Here.

[@wyntryx7977]

@@sir_prize_ma_the_farcar4547 and how exactly? chris makes good points, while you literally gave no evidence against his argument. nothing to back up that claim of yours. so how exactly is he wrong, my good sir? or are you simply following the video with no evidence of your own?

[@wave6604]

Sir_Prize_Muthafakka to back Chris’s comment, when I watched the movie for the first time it was indeed too fast and in the moment blurry. And I thought the monster grabbed him to go somewhere else and eat the kid in a very vile matter.

[@winston280]

but at somepoint you know every thing about the monsters. You know that the only way to survive is to avoind noise, you know what the monsters looks like etc. so i very much dissagree with you

[@duncanschwebel7264]

how is it obscured, it's full daylight and on screen for about a second. Slightly humanoid, on all fours and long arms. And when it swiped it's arm at the boy it was not being gentle to me it looks like it definitely killed him.

[@chikkinator]

I think that showing the monster was a good choice. That is all.

[@somerandomguy167]

*monster kills the youngest child* Jim: *sighs and slowly turns to the camera*

[@adrian___6326]

I love how I watch this at 3am and he pulled up some creepy photos that scared the shit out of me thanks filmento

[@alecdickens1042]

6:53 I see it plain as day, sir. Children in a horror movie.

[@user-mp8wy8lp4y]

I think he meant the monster

[@user-mp8wy8lp4y]

@Dragongamer 7 yeah, real damn scary

[@BlueGuise9]

I have to disagree. Though 'The Unknown' as a concept is a truly terrifying tool - simply concealing the monster/killer does not necessarily make it scarier. Our minds will fill in the gaps and we will likely reach the same conclusions based on what we have seen before; Movie monsters often look alike, the masked killer is always a man etc. This actually makes 'The Unknown', 'Something Familiar' (which is obviously less scary) UNTIL the reveal, when we're given the chance to be surprised! This was demonstrated to me by 'Andy Muschietti' who showed me that I could be afraid of things I never would have imagined, suggesting that our imaginations can only take the fear so far.

[@Reclusive247]

I don't agree at all. The 'never reveal the monster trope' has become trite and expected. Some of the best monsters are revealed and the fear comes from their unstoppableness or that they can strike at any time. Jaws being a good example of the effectiveness of revealing your monster.

[@milboxr9772]

Jaws is the exact opposite of your point

[@Reclusive247]

jaws is revealed very early on, when brody is chumming the water.

[@NFCloud]

All i'm gonna say to people who agree with this video and disagree with this is to watch CinemaWins video on this and rejudge it with two perspectives. CinemaWins' Video : kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKLZcnSumsqpmNE Edit: Link doesn't take you to the middle of the video.

[@NeverwascooL]

Jaws is about a normal creature that exist in our world. What makes things scary is your own fear building it up. I've always wanted a horror movie that ends with the monster not being defeated. The Jeepers Creepers movie was good when the two sibling are being stalked the whole movie and in the end one of them is still taken. The creeper is not stopped and it is more unnerving knowing that thing is still out there lurking vs protag kills it

[@zephyrbernier1858]

But also pulling something like this off (jaws didn't btw) is a lot harder than never revealing what the creature/thing is or can do. A better example of revealing the monster is the Halloween series with Michael Myers.

[@hongquiao]

you know what would've been much more effective?... If instead of SEEING the monster leaping at him, we HEARD the kid screaming!

[@bloodlesslegacy5002]

or It just does a cut away, showing a close up of the father's worried face, as it takes his child, not showing the creature at all.

[@MrBmantheman]

SugaryAshes Or (and excuse my pleb opinion because I'm just your average movie goer) it does exactly what it did in the movie.

[@literallyglados]

TheDemonologistsHandbook no that's lame.

[@Markieray]

@@MrBmantheman Seeing the kid get OOFED by a cartoon wasn't very scary to me.

[@ZaLewdWarudo]

@@MrBmantheman glad you realise you're a pleb and your opinion shouldn't be taken seriously.

[@the_jdb3351]

When I first saw this movie, I walked away with nothing but love for it. The ending got me hyped for Part 2 and hopefully it still comes out in theaters

[@rajyavardhansingh4491]

Both movies are fantastic imo.

[@tobiasgrauer8617]

You have such a great sense of humor. Every single Video is a really awesome.

[@caina5658]

You highlight the "big flaw" of showing the monster in bright day at the beggining of the movie, but in this film i don't see as a problem because the atmosphere is enough to keep you in the edge of your seat. Like in Alien, you have a situation almost impossible to scape as even the monster is shown to you early in the movie the fact that you are traped build the tension and the fear, same with A Quiet Place

[@donquesewilliamswilliams3497]

Alien is the perfect example of a monster done right

[@jakemurray2595]

@@donquesewilliamswilliams3497 that is an opinion

[@donquesewilliamswilliams3497]

@@jakemurray2595 But there are facts and science on why it is

[@jjdmadn2425]

Idk if alien pushes your point as it is often cited as an example of why hiding the monster is better than showing it all the time.

[@BlueGuise9]

It was the same with Pennywise from IT. He was pretty much always seen in broad daylight. Concealing him would have made him LESS scary.

[@soccerscoutsbdtm9164]

"Don't show your monster until the end because it's downhill from then." Huh Didn't feel like it was downhill from then.

[@cyruskarloff7219]

Difference between HORROR or THRILLER. Just his opinion. I agree on the grounds that if the Monster had acted the same way at the begining of the invasion, the army or someone would have figured out how the Monsters worked. Just my opinion.

[@syntext]

That was the scariest scene in the whole film though. I was concerned for the mom when she was alone in the house but not nearly as much as when I didn't know what was coming out of the forest. The more I saw the monster the less scary it became, and the less I identified with the family the movie was trying to focus on.

[@jamesesparza6893]

Yeah you know that scene in aliens when Dallas gets taken out while in the air ducts and the Alien is shown in full view, the movie was all down hill from there, FUCK ALIENS and their lack of horror cuz they showed the damn monster.

[@skullcrusade3436]

@@jamesesparza6893 Dude, I don't think its a good idea to reveal to the internet that you fuck aliens and abstract thoughts. I mean I get that you're mad, but fucking abstract concepts are usually on the weird side.

[@jamesesparza6893]

@@skullcrusade3436 I get it, not funny but I get it.

[@knightwolfpro4494]

Reminds me about "Signs" a great job was done hiding the aliens throughout the entire movie, at best giving us a very blurry image at one point. Then at the end in the house, the alien looked so fake, so much like a rubber suited man that it ruined the tension the rest of the movie created.

[@v10l3t40]

The idea you brought up about the fear of the unknown also fits into movies like Annabelle: Creation, when you see the monster, it doesn't make the creature as horrifying compared to when it was in the darkness

[@puzzled_pelican3626]

The reason why I think "The Thing" from 1982 is the perfect horror movie is because of exactly what you said. You never know who "The Thing" is until it presents itself at the perfect moment of tension. Being in a confined unescapable space with something that will strike at any moment and not knowing who you can and cannot trust is a nightmare.

[@Vampiresquid007]

The thing i hated most is that in a situation like this no parent or family member would leave one of their youngest unattended and left behind like that.. I mean wtf your supposed to stay quiet as possible and the only ones to make the mistake is one of your youngest ones..

[@EskChan19]

Yeah, it's pretty stupid. Anyone in that situation would make damn sure that kid doesn't have something to make noise with. Especially with how long the way home is, and we're supposed to believe that a family that survived this long wouldn't even LOOK at their own child even just once when leaving the looted store, all the way to home? The kid was openly carrying that thing.

[@costaliberta5969]

holding a big toy

[@bwmanhath3770]

@@EskChan19 I think the dad though the batteries were gone, cuz he took them out before...

[@nbucwa6621]

@@meriwilliams1217 yes. the sister was supposed to be watching him. that's why she feels so guilty later on.

[@carealoo744]

When you watch for the movie for the first time, you don't get to see the monster long enough for it to even register in your brain

[@martinbowmanvlogs1319]

Didn't expect to see you here lol

[@EksaStelmere]

That's the best way to describe A Quiet Place. It's a thriller, not a horror film.