Halloween Ends - How to Ruin Horror | Anatomy Of A Failure

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2022's Halloween Ends continues the return of Michael Myers from 2018's Halloween and 2021's Halloween Kills. They even used the Filmento idea all the way back from my video about first entry, in which Michael Myers shouldn't be only an old man in a mask but more of an idea that can spread and corrupt. Awesome! Unfortunately, that's not enough to save this movie, because it stumbles into a couple horror pitfalls which make it not scary. A horror movie where the horror doesn't work! In today's Anatomy of a Failure, let's see what those pitfalls are so that we can avoid them in our own horror scripts.
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Halloween Ends (2022)
This is Laurie Strode’s last stand. After 45 years, the most acclaimed, revered horror franchise in film history reaches its epic, terrifying conclusion as Laurie Strode faces off for the last time against the embodiment of evil, Michael Myers, in a final confrontation unlike any captured on-screen before. Only one of them will survive. Icon Jamie Lee Curtis returns for the last time as Laurie Strode, horror’s first “final girl” and the role that launched Curtis’ career. Curtis has portrayed Laurie for more than four decades now, one of the longest actor-character pairings in cinema history. When the franchise relaunched in 2018, Halloween shattered box office records, becoming the franchise’s highest-grossing chapter and set a new record for the biggest opening weekend for a horror film starring a woman. Four years after the events of last year’s Halloween Kills, Laurie is living with her granddaughter Allyson (Andi Matichak) and is finishing writing her memoir. Michael Myers death scene Halloween ends bad movie garbage movie everything wrong with halloween ends full movie watch online free 4k clip hd best moments halloween ends kill counter michael myers death laurie vs michael myers halloween ends explained ending all kills compilation honest trailer halloween ends box office flop reaction review mistakes hasn’t been seen since. Laurie, after allowing the specter of Michael to determine and drive her reality for decades, has decided to liberate herself from fear and rage and embrace life. But when a young man, Corey Cunningham (Rohan Campbell; The Hardy Boys, Virgin River), is accused of killing a boy he was babysitting, it ignites a cascade of violence and terror that will force Laurie to finally confront the evil she can’t control, once and for all.
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Halloween (2018)
Director David Gordon Green’s slasher film is a direct sequel to the 1978 film of the same name. Four decades later, survivor Laurie Strode (Jamie Lee Curtis) braces herself for a final confrontation with serial killer Michael Myers (Nick Castle and James Jude Courtney) after he escapes from confinement while being transferred to a maximum-security prison.

[@Filmento]

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[@oksanapashenko]

Will ever be The Last Of Us 2 failure or perfection?

[@jiri6691]

@@oksanapashenko Please dlo Terifier 2!!!

[@HorrorbleCWalt]

Would you consider doing the Candyman remake?

[@DougieYT]

When I watched Ends in Theaters I was absolutely dying for Filmento to rip into this movie😂.

[@linternamagica100]

I think your critique about the lack of scare at the beginning was unfair, after so many sequels we know why we are here; They tried something different but it was impossible, I think, to actually make these sequels work.

[@billybadass3056]

oh yeah also... I guess this dude wasn't aware but the director specifically said this wasn't meant to be a horror but a love story infused w/horror..... and THIS is Why it FAILED

[@billybadass3056]

@@mossturtle625 did I stutter??

[@alwaysbored1700]

@@billybadass3056 nope its just like, wtf it was?

[@Gu3ssWhatsN3XT]

I think there were many factors outside of just that that made this and the franchise fail but for sure that concept was a terrible idea especially given the history of the characters

[@billybadass3056]

@@alwaysbored1700 yeah the director was a true dumazz for going that direction

[@evandaymon8303]

Honestly very first film should just been one off and done but like typical 80s slasher and movies. Money was goood and they need to ruin what was a perfect story

[@jbdxiii]

Let's also not forget the part where Corey out-wrestles Michael, you know, the freakishly strong, bulletproof psycho, and takes his mask. I got a good belly laugh out of that one.

[@andrewmatthews5278]

Someone said Michael let him beat to infect evil.

[@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer]

Especially after Michael had killed the mob single-handedly four years ago. Having Corey do him dirty like that just felt like elder abuse.

[@phrike7588]

@@andrewmatthews5278 If that was the case, he could've just handed it over.

[@timblom7364]

It's very clearly shown that Michael is not as strong as he used to be. They strongly imply that Michael's power is being passed to Corey. I think this is a really cool concept, turning Michael Myers into flesh and blood, in my opinion this makes him more terrifying, because he's actually desperate to kill, not just indifferent to his victims

[@rpg1497]

@@timblom7364 yeah but that idea doesn't work in a timeline where we were JUST showing him being a supernatural character. If they wanted to make this mostly shit film, then they should've just done it as an offshoot that was mostly about Corey with maybe only one scene with Michael Myers, named it something else, and then concluded the trilogy in a different film. This movie doesn't work with any of the other films on such a level that it's actually astonishing and makes it almost impossible to believe the same person was part of all 3 films.

[@DOOMStudios]

I’m actually disappointed that Laurie and Allison just completely forgotten about Karen. Like as if there was no grief for her.

[@EskChan19]

It's also just very out of character, in the last movie she was so concerned about Michael Meyers that she prepared even though everyone thought he was dead. Then he returns, confirms to her that he is still alive and even more dangerous than she thought, kills someone super important to them, and that somehow makes them go back to a normal life without a worry? What?

[@blaineishere3851]

It’s been four years, they make a point of showing that Lori has her as her lock screen, and they make a point of showing that Lori gave her parents’ wedding rings to her and they are an important part of her character design. There’s plenty there.

[@rufescenteagle7299]

Who's Karen?

[@justarandompepe8961]

it hs been 4 years, they aren't going to be grief stricken and broken. its normal to be living normally after that much time has passed. though they could have had a moment or 2 in there showing their grief, i agree with that.

[@justpeachybaby5929]

Laurie didn't even mention her in the end. I was expecting a massive showdown with Laurie n Micheal. N it lasted around 3 minutes lmao. They portrayed Micheal as a weak old man. Yet in previous he literally picked up n killed victims with 1 hand, man what a flop

[@jeremy144713]

My BIGGEST problem with the movie is that the trailers lied to us. They implied that Michael and Lowry would be the center of this movie, culminating in a final showdown but what we GOT was a weird RomCom movie where this sad kid goes on a killing spree, beats Michael myers up with little effort, and then Michael and Lowry have a glorified cameo with a showdown at the end.

[@guibox3]

I know. Absolutely insulting to the fans of the Halloween franchise.

[@jesseramirez9062]

@Zombiechris this comment literally makes no sense in the context of his post.

[@jesseramirez9062]

LAURIE

[@jeremy144713]

@@jesseramirez9062 don’t judge me 😂 I didn’t remember how to spell her name.

[@gustavofring9769]

@@jeremy144713 you mean "Laurie"

[@MurasakiTsukimaru]

"The memory of him will fade" she wrote in her book about the story of Michael Myers. Man, imagine 44 years ago you'd see Michael Myers overpowered by a guy who gets bullied by band geeks.

[@bomes2084]

power hierarchy Michael < Corey < band kids

[@mikealangeloy]

​@@bomes2084 I think you meant Michael < Band Kids < Corey

[@pacoramon9468]

So Lory was paranoid for 40 years for the small chance Michael escaped but the moment Michael escaped and killed Lorys family she finally stops being paranoid?

[@eimran1178]

THANK YOU

[@chasehedges6775]

Halloween Ends is indefinite proof that usually the first installment of a franchise is always going to be the best.

[@erikbihari3625]

Yeah, that movie is a legend for a reason!

[@themoviefan]

Very true

[@josephsalmonte4995]

That sentence makes no sense lol. But yeah, the original was brilliant

[@jumpkickman1993]

You mean first installment of a remake or like in Star Wars when they just continued the Skywalker story

[@chasehedges6775]

@@jumpkickman1993 ?

[@cylondorado4582]

Michael Myers is a great case study. The ratio of how paper thin his premise is to how many lousy cash grab sequels they got from him is truly impressive, even compared to a lot of more modern dumpster fire franchises.

[@circa1919]

Well the interesting part is that you can have a paper thin villain, meaning you have very little information on them, which adds to their mystique and makes them interesting. The problem however is that people assume that there IS more information there, and if you make further installments you have to pay off that assumption. With each passing installment where that isn't paid off or at the very least isn't addressed in a satisfactory way, the more it becomes apparent no thought was put in. A lack of thought vs. a lack of information are very different things when constructing your villain

[@josesosa3337]

It is very impressive how they stretch this franchise even though Michael is flat, in behavior. I very much prefer chucky or scream.

[@scorch2155]

I'd say his premise is more supposed to be a force of nature type character which you can't really javelin if you give them more human like effects. He is an unstoppable killing machine who cannot be reasonsoned with, has a single goal and can't be understood in the way we do other people like a tornado

[@cylondorado4582]

Yeah, Halloween 1 was great because it was so simple. And every sequel hurts that premise by explaining more of it, which John Carpenter knew, which is why he was drunk when he wrote the second one. It’s literally the second one and it’s already a cash grab the writer didn’t even want to make.

[@geechyguy3441]

Not just Halloween, Friday the 13th (Jason) and Nightmare on Elm street (Freddy Krueger) are more or less in the same boat. I cant help but compare it to the MCU, it starts out so great because the original premise was very successful, and the hype at first for horror movies was great. But then slowly over time they just dont stop pumping out sequels and eventually it just finds itself in a shit show AKA Phase 4 or all the useless sequels for these horror movies. On a side note though, even though they were shit at the very least I'd actually want to watch them all because they provide some fucking entertainment, I dont feel inclined to watch anything on Phase 4 and I am yet to.

[@averagecarpentryskills7148]

You're totally right about the kid falling over the railing making no sense. There's an episode of an American reality t.v. crime show called "Forensic Files" where a killer tried to make it look like his mother-in-law fell over a railing while carrying a vcr up some stairs but the experts showed that she was too short to go up and over the railing with the vcr without breaking the railing.

[@bancho9898]

I find it baffling how Halloween Ends had four writers and this was the best they could come up with.

[@jasoncaetano9708]

That's usually how it goes, having one writer with consistent vision and plan is preferable to having a buck of writers fighting for the spotlight

[@senny-]

@@jasoncaetano9708 Exactly. I once co-wrote a story for a fan game. Without telling me, the other writer finished the script all by himself. When I tried to suggest stuff, like "How about we do something like this?", he blew up and went mad. I even said I liked his script, which I genuine did.

[@astrograph7875]

jesus.... FOUR WRITERS??? How did not one of them look at the final script and think "Hey... uh... this kill doesn't make sense. Why did Michael lose to a teenager? How did he lose to a 60 year old lady?"

[@cinder7258]

@@senny- Fan game vs Movie. Very clear contrast.

[@kyotheman69]

any movie has that many writers is bad sign, it end up like shit

[@UnclePhil1112]

Jamie Lee Curtis wasn’t kidding when she said this movie was going to piss a lot of people off. This movie had So much potential, only for it to be squandered. Such a shame

[@AlmostParadise_RK]

And I still don't understand how that is acceptable to everyone involved. Is "It's going to piss off a lot of people." really a good goal when you're making a movie? Especially a franchise movie?

[@buddatree]

@@AlmostParadise_RK for some reason thats just how it is now. She was probably referring to the fact that the movie features two "strong" female leads. Because hollywood thinks that fact alone makes movies worth watching now

[@UnclePhil1112]

@@AlmostParadise_RK especially something that’s supposed to be your big, finale, climatic showdown of a movie.

[@alaynajohannsen]

😅😊 CC v. V mom Nvm

[@buddatree]

@@alaynajohannsen i think your cat got to your phone

[@viljamtheninja]

What bothered me about this film was that basically every character was just unreasonably awful or stupid. The townspeople's hatred of Laurie didn't make a lick of sense; it could've worked but it was always on such flimsy premises that they essentially blamed him for Michael Myers, because she... teased him? What? And how stupid was Allyson to believe the child killing murderer over her mother? The guy even told her he'd killed someone, clearly referring to someone OTHER than the child he'd already accidentally killed, and she doesn't even ask about it and it's not brought up again. I find it impossible to sympathize with this characters or the stakes that the movie is trying to build when everyone acts like an alien.

[@TRG_R17]

Facts

[@WZ4RD3]

Do you seriously wanna talk about stupid ? Did you not see how they reacted in Halloween kills ? You wanna talk about nonsense ? How tf does a trained girl like Karen only stab Michael in the back of the neck ? And that “mob” was full of weak mfs . Let actual boxers in there someone with martial arts skill they would’ve easily took out Michael but the whole Michael Myers shit is fucking stupid to begin with it was cool in 1979 they shoulda let it die after the 2nd one and did they anthology of ideas . Not best this dead horse for over 30 years

[@eliasrodriguez1419]

Laurie is her grandmother, Michael killed Allyson's mom at the end of kills.

[@Nictofobia1976]

They make stupid characters so you don't feel sorry for them when they kill them, it's not new but here they took it to another extreme. They want you to feel sorry for Allyson when the doctor didn't give her the job as a nurse, but she doesn't deserve the job, she couldn't check if Cosey was still alive and decided to leave the house without trying to do anything. In a situation like this she couldn't do much for the adrenaline of the moment, but she didn't even check his pulse, she didnt even call the 9-1-1 or for help, she just left the house and moments later returns to save her grandmother from Michael Myers.

[@KeraClappedYou]

@@Nictofobia1976 It’s a movie dude. You can’t even form proper sentences so I wouldn’t really regard your opinion or analysis very highly anyway.

[@Matt-zu2lu]

What people don’t understand about Halloween is that the main thing that makes the series so good isn’t the scares but the suspense, you don’t need to scare the audience every 15 minutes in a Halloween movie, you just need to make them feel uneasy, that why Halloween opens with Micheal Myers escaping the asylum, why H2 opens with us seeing that Micheal survived and that Laurie got sedated and why the opening scene in H4 shows us that Micheal is still alive and that when he finds out that he has a living niece his first response is to start murdering people. Halloween is always at best when the audience knows as soon as the movie starts everyone is in danger

[@AliRadicali]

For some odd reason, sequels to slasher movies seem to forget that suspense is much more important than having a constant stream of scares and kills. A guy with a big knife running around and stabbing teenagers isn't really that scary; the formula only works if the movie gives us characters to care about and time to start worrying that something is going to happen to them.

[@otallono]

Too much man, all you have to say is 'It was bad.' From the very beginning when you're wondering the whole time how a kid can fall over a railing taller than he is, and the rest of the movie is now meaningless, that's bad. I guess stupid people will overlook obvious things like that. Still bad.

[@otallono]

@@AliRadicali There was no suspense.. that's the point. We know what you're saying.

[@Kenny-ep2nf]

it's tense

[@Spartan11117777]

Bro them building up Michael Myers as immortal against Bullets and them skipping 4 Years and he’s not powerful anymore. It’s kinda a bummer cuz it does make it all go away that Michael is a MF-ing Apex Predator, the sense that a something as deadly as a Sabertooth or T-Rex is on the loose is gone.

[@wadetisthammer3612]

13:53 - This part really ticked me off. Not only was the movie inconsistent with the previous film about Michael Myers strength it was inconsistent with itself! And of course, enervating Michael Myers needlessly reduces the tension for the final showdown at the end.

[@vinjass]

Laurie when Michael has been locked for 40 years without even moving out of his square in the prison: Real shit!!! Laurie when Michael is on the loose after killing like 30 people including her daughter: I think I'll go live a peaceful suburban life

[@donlibby7195]

Exactly. 40 years of PTSD from one night in 78, then, Michael still at large after a massacre in Haddonfield, and the death of her daughter and son in law...Laurie decides to be Betty Crocker in this town that has nothing but bad vibes for her and her granddaughter.

[@The_Electric_54]

In the same fucking town may I remind you.

[@gamingraptorpro1800]

Dude I can't belive Halloween ended today, I was so looking forward to getting candy.

[@IndigoPhoenix21]

Ends is giving fan fiction energy. It's a dead on arrival concept. The franchise takes a lot of time trying to rationalize Michael, to uncover the sources of his power and evil, and within this trilogy, there are multiple answers. Demystifying a supernatural being robs them not only of their power within the story, but their power over the audience. By the end of the movie, both Michael and Corey are reduced just being some dudes, the legacy of this franchise nerfed to "it's just the mask bro". I always thought that Michael needed the mask in a figurative, self-image sense, not in the literal, it gives him power sense. At the core of horror is mystery, when it's gone, the story loses its appeal. The director said that he always envisioned Michael as being nothing more than a man, and on top of that not aligning with everything he's survived, I just don't understand why he'd want to do that. You start asking questions like "wait, does Michael eat, what kind of things does he eat, does Michael sleep", things that take you out of the world because instead of fearing the unknown, you're analyzing and trying to connect that world to yours. And yeah, ordinary people can be scary, but before this movie, Michael was never an ordinary person. I guess what I'm saying is that instead of being some guy, possessed by evil in some way, I think Michael is at his most interesting when he is simply the evil itself. We don't know how it happened, we don't how to stop it, we don't know if there are more like him out there. There are a few cool scenes in this, but overall, this is easily the most disappointing movie in the series. Yes, more than Resurrection. We knew that was gonna be bad lol.

[@macemurphy]

See this i really resonate with. I fell in love with the Halloween movies because Myers is such a simple terrifying monster. He is pure unstoppable evil. He isn't lawful evil, he doesn't plan, he doesn't care. He is just a force of nature that obliterates everything in his path. I was so excited because the last two movies seemed to be really hammering home that Michael was basically just an animal going home. Then they threw it all away. I was hoping Laurie would use the fact that he is an unthinking monster to lure him into a huge trap, drop him in the shredder, entomb him in cement, cut his head clean off. I don't care. Just make it clear that Michael will not be stopped until the poor corpse his soul is reanimating is finally annihilated...

[@jeffalexgreco]

To be fair though in the original Halloween Michael was just a person. That version of Michael is scarier to me than the unstoppable tank he became in H4-Resurrection.

[@Gu3ssWhatsN3XT]

I can accept him as just a man but if that was his vision then he’s either dumb or a terrible director because if that’s what he wanted why did he even bother showing the audience Michael 4 years before the movie starts taking out a mob with no effort? Kind of dumb if you ask me when someone makes a statement like that only to literally open the movie up with a scene that goes in the completely opposite direction

[@onikin]

@@jeffalexgreco to be fair, in the original, Michael was "just a person" who was shot *6* times in the chest and fell off a balcony. And then immediately disappeared.

[@DoctorBiobrain]

I saw another video quoting the director saying he wrote this at the same time as the previous movie and it was intended as a contrast with the violence in that one. That probably made more sense in his head when he’s experiencing both movies at the same time but doesn’t work if you’re watching them separately.

[@TimeBomb014X]

And I can tell you that line is utter bullshit, David Gordon Greene had no plans for this trilogy. They made 2018 with no idea of there would be a sequel and when they got the greenlight, Halloween Ends was meant to happen the same night as H2018 and K Kills. So pure bullshit on his part

[@BreathingAir]

Nailed it Dude. The truck chasing those 2 girls and they run in front of the truck, oh man, rookie script-writing.

[@slimmccoy8863]

Must be proud alums of the "Prometheus School of Running Away"

[@cinder7258]

@@slimmccoy8863 Except trucks can turn... It can follow you, at least with this the best decision would be to get out.

[@slimmccoy8863]

​@@cinder7258 Had they gone left or right (or better still, split up), the truck would NEED to turn. Running straight makes the killer's job easier. I know, "when you're in a horror film, you make bad decisions" (thanks Geico)

[@otallono]

@@cinder7258 Except, not really, they can only follow an open path big enough for them to fit, a person can run in between smaller spaces. Not sure why you're trying to argue against the fact that everyone knows that it is cliche (probably one of the biggest ones in history) to have someone running away, straight, in the same direction of travel of a vehicle they're running from instead of simply running off the path. It's an understatement to say it's not original.

[@TRG_R17]

@@cinder7258 Last Time I Check Truck Are Slow So Turing Into A Different Direction Would Make The Kids Live Longer

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

I feel this movie could've been saved if we just intercut the extended opening with Micheal in the storm drain killing the hobo or some kids playing around so we get the idea that Micheal is an evil monster in a cave properly conveyed. Intersperse those scenes in the opening and you keep the audience on edge and it starts meaning something when Corey starts "feeding" his enemies to Micheal and we get the impression that Micheal isn't just sparing Corey or letting him beat him up randomly- that he is deliberately "infecting" him with evil. Show that Micheal is still a threat. It would also emphasize the difference between Micheal's killing of anyone unfortunate enough to cross his path versus Corey's killing of anyone who wronged him or his lover in some way, which should ultimately have escalated until he's killing for pleasure and for the sake of killing and killing innocents once the "infection" has fully progressed. Hell, you could have him start to stare at his knife instead of the victim as he reaches that point of absolute evil.

[@DougieYT]

I swear, it’s always the deleted scenes that are always better than what we actually get on-screen.

[@nyctophobia4573]

Very interesting concept. Thank you for sharing.

[@coldbeing5420]

Or let's not have a love interest? Or better yet a michael myers movie without michael myers? lmao

[@GoblinArmyInYourWalls]

@@DougieYT blame share holders

[@kolonarulez5222]

Your idea adds so much! I was so upset the hobo was just "Oh yeah Michael, the one this film is supposed to be about? He been chilling in the drain over half the runtime."

[@YNOTSWRLD]

I’m telling you that “you’re dead too” line took me out of the movie so hard the first time watching 😂. I was like huh? Are they working together? But nah she’s just not very smart 😂

[@Gu3ssWhatsN3XT]

Yeah that was one of the worst lines of the movie. You can tell whoever wrote the script was shit

[@TheCykodude]

Watching this movie in theaters I was sitting there like "I want all of these characters to die like there isn't even suspense right now" the whole time I thought they were going to go like the daughter and new guy joined the killer side and hunted what's her face for the finale and I thought that was going to be so cool and then they just flopped entirely on it.

[@The_Boys_Archive]

Did you just call Laurie Strode "what's her face?"

[@TheCykodude]

@@The_Boys_Archive Ya, her character was fantastic in the original Halloween but now is not worth remembering the name of.

[@MumRah357]

@@TheCykodude Unbelievably L take

[@TheCykodude]

@@MumRah357 legacy characters can't just be npc's waiting for shit to happen to them and still be considered good. Sorry you disagree with that but that isn't an L take

[@MumRah357]

@@TheCykodude Laurie literally doesn't stand around waiting for shit to happen? She has moved on. She has unshackled herself from the trauma that she carried for 40 years. She is sparking a new relationship. She's writing her memoir. Life goes on. If anything, the one that stood around just waiting for shit to happen was Michael Myers. Also, the mental gymnastics that require for you to go from a character that you deemed "fantastic" in one installment 40 years ago and then now has no importance to the plot, so much so that you forget their own name is beyond ridiculous. Sorry, but yours was indeed an L take.

[@lukesball1]

That "you're dead too" line, was the most unnescacary death since Rose didn't share her bit of driftwood with Jack.

[@TimeBomb014X]

What I hate the most about Ends is just the missed opportunity to make this whole trilogy take place one a single night.

[@myellatorres2110]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!

[@deopproductions3535]

That was the original plan

[@defenderofminorities3056]

I think the issue for me with this film was that when that child got yeeted down the stairs and cracked like a ice cream cone, it had me dying laughing and the film had just started.

[@codrelentlessone6508]

Yeah 😂😂I couldn't tell what happened I had to rewind it so many times because it looked akward😂

[@Sunzovia]

Lmao I just barely managed to not start laughing after seeing that

[@thestooge200]

Don't forget the whilhelm scream!

[@zacbendable6346]

I busted out laughing in the theater it was so ridiculous

[@alexthrailkill]

I’m still trying to figure out how he got over that rail, like I’m fairly certain he was shorter than it and the rail didn’t break.

[@tadochov]

I mean, this should have been a spin-off. It would have been cool for Michael to take the back seat while we can explore how he corrupted the town and we can have a great character study of Corey. if Michael just slightly interacts with the story or is not in it at all, it doesnt matter. they can then even estabilish that "healing/getting stronger by killing" that was super vague in this one. it would make sense that Michael somehow finds this one out by killing 1 person, and then goes out for a final killing spree in an actual Halloween movie. and then they can do the final showdown in H4, that can really be about Laurie vs Michael (or town vs Michael. just something where Michael is actually the main villain and is in the movie). but having him in his final movie for like 5 minutes, while also getting beaten in a hand-to-hand combat by some random dude that was unable to defend himself from some marching band bullies, and then losing yet another hand-to-hand combat with a 60+ yo lady, was just so weird. and yes yes, I know it is Laurie, but in Kills, he easily obliterated an entire fire department, and later an armed mob of 20 people. NOBODY should be able to beat him 1 on 1 in a fair fight, not even Laurie. I like that they actually tried to do something new, but then again, fans expect some kind of a movie and default should be to give fans what they want. if they wanna reverse people's expectations, they need to be damn smart about it. this was not it...

[@gerardhill7264]

My thoughts exactly

[@sofakingonmynuts1438]

Im surprised they didnt make laurie black

[@mike91mdk45]

If they hadn't pulled the bait and switch with promising one thing and then delivering some halfway, disjointed amalgamation of that and the corey cunningham show, it might have been better received

[@tadochov]

@@mike91mdk45 ye, that's my problem as well. they knew what people wanted, which they showed in the trailers, but they delivered something else entirely. this is why I would make Ends a spinoff (sort of like Season of the Witch), and then make an actual Halloween Ends with Michael (like Return of Michael Myers was had they not screwed it up with H5). in any case, they knew what people wanted and made it completely different on purpose and lied in the process...

[@risinggael1685]

@@mike91mdk45 im getting mgs 2 flash backs with raiden and solid snake... They wasted this oppertunity of master and student...thats were i thought it was going... Honestly they need to redo this movie...were michael has a protege and this starts off another trilogy maybe laurie and the grand daughter filling in loomis's role but now hunting michael and corey as they go on killing spree's from town to town...were corey becomes more like michael....michael wasnt scary because he was evil...he was scary because he was souless and this gave him his strength of relentlessness because just didnt care at all no feelings... so if we got to see corey head down this horrorific path of eventuall murder with no motives....just killing out of instict and not of reason...literally reverting to the reptilian part of our brains...were he is killing not for emotion or fillings...but just perpetual motion...killing to just keep moving... hence why when trapped in the asylum house he just stays still but when free out of that place he just kills as he keeps moving forward towards things that are familer to him...not out of feeling but just out of familerarty of knowledge of what and who he knows, pragmaticly...this is what michael transfers to corey that way of empthy existance of perpetual motion killing whats in front of him as he moves...and a primal kinship between them of that hollow souless empthyness born in michael made in corey...

[@tobyrightenger9748]

I love the writing technique in horror movies where bad people are introduced, then when the main threat occurs, they’re the most dependable, and change their personality almost completely so they can be more 3 dimensional and you feel like you’re in a more grounded movie.

[@kopanomoss5752]

what movie has tried that?

[@aliresd]

@@kopanomoss5752 One I can think of, that's not the best case for what he's talking about, in the new leatherface movie the guy who they labeled as a racist hillbilly helps the main girl hide and when he's dying to bubba he reaches out his keys for the girl to take. Subversion of a characters first instance is definitely a strong writing technique for sure cause it makes you feel more for that character, cause that scene makes you feel terrible for the guy and makes you think about you also judged him quickly as well. Bad movie but it was my first thought haha.

[@EGRJ]

@@kopanomoss5752 Dawn of the Dead 2004 had a jerk security guard, but he decides to be nicer to the survivors at a certain point, and SPOILERS . . . sacrifices himself to give the other survivors a better chance.

[@gabrielsabinodepaula2129]

The original Night of the Living Dead's Cooper

[@franklinstine4544]

@@aliresd random aholes calling somebody a racist for no reason is a bad example of being bad and turning good. That's just the other characters being dicks

[@Jawunleashed]

14:02 "You could argue that I'm just nitpicking. But I could also argue that you're just inhaling copium." LOOOOOL

[@boneman9751]

My creative writing teacher brought up how this movie is an example of how movies promote violence because people were complaining that micheal wasn’t killing Like. No. People are complaining that a whinny teenager, who gets bullied by kids and preteens, befriend the monster who has been living in a *fucking sewer* (the man who will kill anyone for no other reason than he wants to), before immediately turning around and apparently over powering said monster (mind you, a man who can pick people up with 1 hand). He then takes his mask to go kill the main girl who also tries to kill herself for some reason.? Then Michael then shows up again and then gets over powered by a 70+ year old woman

[@WZ4RD3]

Annnnnnnnnnd? Michael is literally the same age as Laurie . And on top of that Laurie trained to fight him her whole life so she’s not jus some 70 year old woman . She was in athletic shape . She was training . She could kill him in so many ways it’s insane . This is a Laurie who literally practiced shooting guns all day everyday for 40 years . With an accuracy that is insane . So no she’s not jus some 70 year old . She is very smart , calculative , and strong for her age . Besides the point why are y’all bitching so much you didn’t see him kill but the whole last movie he went on a straight killing spree . You Halloween Stan’s are worse than Eminem Stan’s

[@boneman9751]

@@WZ4RD3 did you even… like, read what I said? No one is bitching that we didn’t see him kill, that’s literally the point of my comment😭 We’re complaining that Michael Myers could *life grown ass people up with 1 hand* and then got overpowered by a 70 year old woman. I don’t know why you brought up her shooting ability.? What the fuck does shooting having to do with your ability to overpower someone? Just because I’m a better shot than someone doesn’t mean that I can beat them in an arm wrestle. Or what about the fact that you don’t see many 70 year old bodybuilders. The older you get, the more your body deteriorates, aka, no matter how much you train, your body is still gonna break. Here’s a tl;dr in case what I said was too hard for you to read (obviously an issue because you completely missed the point of my whole comment): *the incarnation of evil got bitched on by an old lady*

[@TOM-ro7rt]

If I was getting accused of being a fucking murderer and getting constantly shat on everyday I would be mad, especially getting called a pedo, michael transfered some of his evil in corey by looking in his eyes and he has been killing periodically not consistently which he needs to do to be unstoppable LIKE STATED IN HALLOWEEN KILLS, it also helps that its been a day after michael killed that girl which seems to be the time limit to his power, not to mention corey also has a part of Michael's evil, Laurie wants to kill herself because she drew Allyson away and that was also a ploy to get corey to the room, the do it part is mirroring that part in Kills where Allyson tells Karen to stab Myers, also she's a 70 year old woman who's in great shape, you guys had no problem with her in 2018 kicking his ass but now you do? Doesn't add up

[@boneman9751]

@@TOM-ro7rt 1. Micheal transferred some of his evil.? What.? It’s like curse all over again. 2. Micheal made his first kill at 6, didn’t touch a soul for years, and showed up on Halloween a beast. Even if you count the 3 or so people before the rampage, micheal had slaughtered an entire town before disappearing into a *fucking sewer.* he had managed to loose all his evil power in just 4 years. It was dumb in kills and it’s dumb now. Killing to increase your power, that sounds like something out of the thorn trilogy 3. Seeing Laurie over power micheal was always dumb, but at least before she used mainly her intelligence to beat micheal, never holding him down against a kitchen counter

[@TouchscreamPresents]

@@WZ4RD3 and Michael is practically a supernatural force with strength of multiple men? It's just a bad movie my dude 😎

[@DeniseFaraday]

I rewatched Halloween 3 Season of the Witch again last night, as I normally do every Halloween. An underrated classic that is finally getting the kudos it deserves decades later.

[@MikeSpicyWinner]

Well said, Halloween 3 is under appreciated.

[@chrissgchriss]

We need a proper sequel to just that storyline. Season of the Witch 2. Where they try to rule the world again, but no one buys mask!!! Oh well, let's plan for next year. And this keeps going...

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@MikeSpicyWinner I agree the issue is they marketed as a Michael vs Laurie in trailers But the difference is Halloween 3 didn't ruin Michael Myers nor Laurie and made a pretty good horror film that had a good romantic plot too

[@Author1959]

After suffering through “Kills,” and “Ends,” I am terrified of how they’ll handle the new “Exorcist” trilogy that’s coming.

[@mike91mdk45]

Well, regan and father karras will probably be relegated to side characters while everyone's favorite burke dennings will get the most screen time and focus, giving insights into his origin. The final confrontation might include the evil spirit getting caught in ray stantz's ghost trap. Roll credits

[@truthboy2164]

forreal

[@LARA-sg4bt]

Why was kills bad again? I never saw it as bad lol

[@caldw615]

I think if the Corey story was made into maybe a 2-3 part mini series set between Kills and Ends without him ever finding Myers weakened in the sewers early in the story it could work. Like the whole idea was he was a monster created from the hysteria of the town itself, something far bigger than Myers' actual influence. Have Corey still slowly descend into the psycho he becomes as a result of the environment being so toxic towards him. The mini series could end with him fighting Laurie/Allyson and leaving badly injured THEN finding Myers in the sewers where Myers kills him and THAT awakens Myers killer instinct again which would lead into a new Halloween Ends movie focusing on Laurie and Myers final confrontation.

[@Gu3ssWhatsN3XT]

That’s actually really close to what I was thinking. Myers doesn’t make an appearance but Corey goes on to keeping his legend alive by becoming a copy cat killer in a way only with him to be killed off by myers at the end with him returning

[@caldw615]

@@Gu3ssWhatsN3XT I think it could draw an interesting paralel to Myers too on the nature of evil. Michael as far as we are lead to believe had a fairly normal childhood with a family who loved him until he eventually snapped one day and murdered Judith. There's hints saying he was a quiet kid sure but not totally mute and they never go into detail about if he ever had some sort of traumatic experience or came from an abusive environment to trigger his murderous intent. Michael wasn't turned evil by circumstance, something at his core was just fucked up and inherintly inhuman. Corey on the other hand seemed like a mostly nice normal young man in spite of his weirdly protective (possibly incestuously abusive) mother. He only got as bad as he did because the whole town villainised him for the accident and he internalised it. Eventually letting the hatred for him consume him and making him turn full spree killer in a sort of "well if they see me as a monster I'll just become one" sort of way. Obviously Corey is still messed up for choosing to go down that path but he would have otherwiss probably lead a normal life if it wasn't for the hysterua surrounding his accident and Myers' previous murders. Is evil something truly inherant waiting to be drawn out by someone's surroundings? Is it something only created when the bad actions of others have an affect on the innocent? Or is it something that is so deeply rooted that even in a loving/caring environment it can still leak out eventually like with Michael? Or perhaps it's a combination of both on a spectrum.

[@christscrackers647]

Your sense of timing with this video is absolutely impeccable Filmento. I was just about to watch this movie, then you come in and explain why it's dogshit. Seriously, GOD tier timing right there.

[@DougieYT]

I pray you didn’t make the mistake me and my brother made and went to see this shit in the theaters with your hard earned money.

[@christscrackers647]

@@DougieYT Nah I was about to watch it on streaming at home. I don't give my money to movies that I know aren't going to be good. XP

[@DougieYT]

@@christscrackers647 Christ, thank goodness, Halloween Ends is just something you’d throw on if u wanna pass time, not a movie worth diving into or paying attention.

[@tvbuu]

Lol

[@julius-stark]

I understand the "they tried something new instead of the same old thing" argument even though they just stole off of Friday the 13th A New Beginning, and I like the idea of the evil in Michael being transferred to another person (NOT like Jason Goes to Hell), they just did it all wrong. If they had set up this Corey character earlier, at the very least in Kills, and ditched the love story parts, I think it could have worked. Red Letter Media even had an idea where after Michael's body is crushed Corey sits up and is suddenly alive. I would have dug that, but they just handled it all so poorly.

[@nerychristian]

They also stole it from one of the early Nightmare on Elm Street movies. The one where Freddy possesses/uses a young guy to kill people in his school.

[@TimeBomb014X]

Well they didnt set Corey up in Kills because he was never part of the plan and was included in the story when theu changed their minds about making the new trilogy take place on a single night

[@julius-stark]

@@nerychristian Nightmare 2 was a little different as it was still technically Freddy doing the killings In Friday 5 it is legit a dude dressed up as Jason pretending to be him, but also with another character who survived a Jason encounter thinking he is becoming evil like Jason with a girl who likes him. Much closer in plot to Ends.

[@nerychristian]

@@julius-stark Yes, true. But technically, you can say that since Michael Myers had a psychic connection with Corey, it was Michaels evil energy that was compelling Corey to kill. I think both of those movies show a young kid experiencing the mental anguish of seeing himself fall deeper and deeper into darkness. And not being sure who is really doing the killing.

[@malygos9301]

Na don't disrespect new beginning like that they set up roy and his kid as an actual surprise. Halloween ends just gave Corey mm powers lol

[@yummyteeth7021]

What aggravates me is when people are like “it’s trying to be like Halloween 3 season of the witch.” No it’s not. Season of the witch didn’t build up the “end” of Halloween. Only thing it showed in the commercial was Michael vs Laurie. They literally lied and wasted everyone’s time and money if I’m being honest. The first 2 was so promising though with a lot of flaws still it was looking like a promise end just to give everyone a damn twilight movie remake. Absolutely hated Allison, how does she grow up, living with Laurie, losing her mom but she acts more in high school now then when she was actually in high school?! They managed to make Laurie look so stupid. She lost her daughter if anything she should be more pyscho. Or if anything have her TRYING to move on from it and act like everything’s fine but she’s dying inside. Small stuff like smiling acting like she’s fine but a single tear leaves her eye. Or she leaves to go to another room not like she’s in freaky Friday. I shouldn’t have to think of other movies while watching a Halloween movie and that’s all I kept doing. And it’s suppose to be the end to beat it all

[@CrackedPropane]

Yeah that’s my main argument to the season of the witch comparison. I read an interview where the director says “I never intended to have it be a show down.” but his trailer editors sure did.

[@davahn122]

Pretty obvious it was leaning towards season of the witch with the homage to the font.

[@HoshMyTots]

YESS 100% AGREE DUDE, i was FLABBERGASTED to see Laurie move on easy peasy instead of crack down and somehow devote even more of herself and her life to killing Myers, I was expecting Halloween (2018) levels of kick ass times fucking 3000 for what is supposed to be the final movie and this was just an enormous disappointment i dont even understand how someone can fuck up a film so bad

[@han-df9mw]

No, it’s like season of the witch because it attempted to be different from the formula in some way or another. Whether it’s done good or bad is irrelevant to what it’s trying to be.

[@mikelhendrickson5119]

@@han-df9mw it's not though. Season of the witch wasn't well recieved but it was written well. This film is the exact opposite. Written poorly and badly received. Just because it references H3 doesn't make it similar in execution.

[@CarloisBuriedAlive]

I hate that this movie is getting credit for being “different” when we’ve had multiple Halloween movies that changed core elements of the story while still maintaining an intimidating and dignified Michael (whether people like Curse or RZ’s Halloween 2 or not, they are absolute departures that actually stick by their decisions), all of the Corey elements are almost directly lifted from Christine, and the movie doesn’t fully commit to these “risks” because the character is killed before the climax. He was an hour+ of buildup for a five minute payoff and then he’s written out of the movie like he was never in it. There are parts of the movie that are enjoyable, but it was a terrible way to end the trilogy and it deserves every piece of criticism it receives. The Halloween elements are poor and the “new and different” elements are an illusion. They didn’t know what to do but knew they had people’s money. In an alternate universe, this basic plot line is used for the middle movie and a movie more like Kills is the grand finale, with both Michael and Corey on the loose (instead of the other escaped mental patient) and Laurie and Allyson are hunting their respective boogeymen as they have separate killing sprees. You have Michael return to full power, Corey gets to actually become a second Shape, Allyson becomes more important, and you blend the old and new generations together. And knowing Jamie Lee Curtis….I knew she wouldn’t die lol. She got to be morally right in all 3 movies, she knew what everybody else didn’t, she got to call them all “sheep,” and then she kills two “Shapes” with almost no problem. Curtis is all about Curtis lol.

[@arandomcommenter412]

quirked up white boy with a little bit of swag busts it down sexual style.. is he goated with the sauce??

[@GingerZombie29]

Also, different doesn't mean good.

[@michaelsinger4638]

Yeah sometimes you have to understand WHY people go to see these types of movies.

[@thesnipingspider3852]

I like it but I think it shoulda been like Corey is more a puppet in the kills with Michael literally being the main killer. Have Michael kill the kid and push him in the beginning and the. Have Corey think if seeing Michael isn’t even real. Have Michael be his plea for insanity and then he meets him blah blah blah. But after Michael kills the cop Michael becomes the main villain and kills everyone with Corey assisting and watching and learning. Have Allyson listen to Laurie which is weird how she turned but ig. Then Final act is just Allyson vs Corey and Laurie vs Michael but Corey lives and then new franchise or some shit. Or kill him and they go on surviving and walking into the sunset.

[@lordofthesithvader9430]

Thank you. People keep applauding it for being different yet it doesn't even deserve it. Everything in this film just feels like watching a bad fanfic. I honestly rather have your idea, or a safer film with a good payoff to the franchise than this shit.

[@susragejr477]

Karen's death is still the most unneccesary death I've ever seen in a horror movie

[@somerandomperson5473]

True I thought it would lead into the next movie with Laurie being angered and quickening the stakes and causing the conflict with Michael to grow but no she dies and is forgotten in 10 seconds

[@clarencegutsy7309]

If you ask me a truly great Halloween film should feel like you're playing a morbid game of Where's Waldo. Part of what made the old Halloween films fun was to look in the background to see if you can find Michael lurking for a moment before disappearing which tells you he's there but doesn't tell you when he's going to strike. That is what builds suspense. Unfortunately many sequels since then have decided Michael should just walk up and begin stabbing with no real build-up to it.

[@valeriebreidenstein8362]

I agree with you. Which is why I don't understand the hate H4-H6 PC get, even though those sequels did it too, even if Michael didn't have those moments as often as in H 1978. H5 does the things H 1978 did. And people hate it because of some things that aren't even that bad, instead of being happy for a decent sequel. Examples: -Rachel's death (no one acted that way when Alice died in F13 part 2's opening scene) -Michael crying (showing emotions doesn't seem to be something that people want to see with Michael, even though those scenes make sense in the context of the timeline) -The Thorn-symbol and the man in black -Look of Michael and the Myer's house -Tina being anoying The last decent sequel that makes a good Halloween movie is Halloween 6 Producer's Cut. The movies after that didn't feel like Halloween movies at all. H20 was more of a Scream movie, DGG's Michael is the Jason of Halloween without his morals. (You don't even have to talk about Resurrection. And RZ's Halloween: either you love it or you hate it)

[@clarencegutsy7309]

@@valeriebreidenstein8362 I'm gonna be honest, I kind of liked the Thorn cult thing. Maybe it's because I grew up as a kid in the '90s so hearing about bizarre Satanic cults felt very current and all the shock reporting or documentaries they'd play on TV at the time made that whole thing seem terrifying. H6 itself has a very great atmosphere to it and I'd even say Michael felt at his most evil during it. It has that gritty '90s darkness you can't replicate these days.

[@valeriebreidenstein8362]

@@clarencegutsy7309 I totally agree with you there. I love H6 (Producer's Cut) (my favorite Halloween movie) and I'm still sad that they scrapped the already planned out (real) sequel H7. The movie would have had such a great story and good characters. Hopefully they one day decide to bring the real H7 to life. Also it was nice to know more about Michael and his power and it makes me feel sorry for him and his family, that they had to suffer only because of stupid Wynn and his followers.

[@indecisiveidiot7334]

the part about hated horror made me think of a moment from @CinemaSins Everything wrong with Halloween 2007. "So far, Michael has only killed people we wanted to see dead anyway. You almost kind of root for this crazy bastard".

[@joanpita6544]

You just vocalized my thoughts about this movie with precision and entertaining examples. This channel is one of my favorites, I have learned so much over the past few years

[@anvos658]

I have to agree a horror movie is massively hurt when the victims end up feeling like a morality play, instead of you actually feeling like your horror villain killed an innocent, or at least somebody the plot gave you reason to care about. When you don't care you've made a slasherflick/snuff film, about revealing in the blood and gore.

[@nu-metalfan2654]

@Anvos. Well Halloween is a Slasher movie. Most Slasher fans prefer to revel in blood and gore, just look at the movie Terrifer and it’s new sequel. When Terrifer came out it was a breath of fresh air to see a Horror movie that’s about blood and gore again, we hadn’t seen that since the Saw franchise was at its height. However some Slasher movies are more than just Slasher movies, Halloween and Scream come to mind, it’s more about suspense and character building in those 2 franchises.

[@Chuck_EL]

I remember the "doucebag asshole protagonist" horror trope era in the mid 2000s and early 2010s If the leads are insufferable assholes no matter how brutal or graphic you make their deaths (which is a shitty plot device they use because they think the audience will feel bad ) people will go "oh that's brutal " not because they cared about the asshole/bitch protagonist, because the scene was brutal that's it I won't name the movies but that's literally the response and "yea it's brutal but they deserved to die "

[@christopherfeeney1962]

Or what about how Laurie all of a sudden is just fine, and ACTUALLY is CELEBRATING Halloween???!! I mean.... completely unbelievable

[@MegaMan-bs3oy]

After Michael was crushed all they had to do was cut back to the house have the dead guy sit up play the theme cut to black. They blew it.

[@RogerCombo]

Or at the very least have Michael grab Laurie right before the grinder turns on.This movie sucked.

[@Filmento]

That's really good.

[@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer]

Why though? One of the things I liked about the movie was that it had an actual ending. No ambiguous “to be continued”

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

@@RogerCombo That would've been terrifying, she dies in front of everyone as they both go into the grinder, then it cuts to Corey rising up with the Halloween theme *credits*

[@viljamtheninja]

@@NewOrderOfAlexandria Now that I would've loved.

[@slendertv3616]

On the topic of the second point, the “horror” that Halloween Ends presents would work a lot better if Michael Meyers was the main character of the movie. Something similar to Joker where it shows the victims in a negative light to where we don’t turn on him. But since Michael Meyers is not the protagonist but in fact the villain, the scenes fall apart.

[@suzanneclark7706]

Once I heard about Halloween ends, I thought they were gonna Star Wars the franchise

[@Canalus]

Actually, having a "genre thing" happen every 10 minutes of runtime sounds like a pretty reasonable rule when writing any genre film.

[@EatTheMarxists]

I took my daughter, a 22 year old Uber-Halloween fan, to see the film on opening night. She, somehow, liked it. I was so bored that I was checking my watch every few minutes. How anyone on God’s green and blue earth thought that turning a Halloween movie into Grease would be a great idea is beyond me.

[@RpgBlasterRpg]

Imagine losing to a old woman instead of dying to an angry mob

[@kinggalactix]

At this point, I want an analog horror movie.

[@yeyewhatever4851]

So how come Laurie is so paranoid when Micheal is in a metal hospital, but finally calms down when Micheal is on the loose out there some where

[@scumknight6074]

I will say this again, and I’ll say it again. I have never felt so much pain watching a movie. It’s not even funny bad, it’s just not fun to watch. I fell asleep for 20 minutes until I heard a Michael jumpscare.

[@ChackV1]

Ive been a fan since I was 3 I thought the cut off tongue on the vinyl was funny and the ending fight was dope, the only part that bored me was the Laurie and frank relationship, the soundtrack keeps me entertained because I am obsessed with the themes due to my autism, the kid at the start was inflicted with micheals evil but he killed that kid so it got back to him I had mixed feelings About the movie when I saw it in dbox but liked it on rewatch because I hate these characters so much and watch them get brutally murdered is so fun, and the relationship between Allyson And Corey is realistic you can fall in love at first sight and Cory wasn't involved with micheal yet shes seems to like the danger, what I waited for was the kills mostly and I liked that the cop was the redhead who bullied Lonnie on the night of 1978, I didn't really care about micheal it's a corey movie its a nod to Christine John carpenter helped make it and was on set too, I like the idea of people being able to be like micheal because we've had to many micheal movies I want more halloween 3 type movies, the visuals were amazing too Lori gets to be more like her 1978 version all nerdy and stuff again I found the tits joke funny I liked nick castles appearance this movies what the original halloween 4 by John carpenter was gonna be, I'm sure people will hate this now and like it in the future like with never three because I'm Autistic to argue against me would be like talking to a brick wall lol

[@androssteague]

I can't shake the feeling that the filmmakers of this franchise looked at Filmento's 2019 video and said hey we should do just that. Filmento should get some sort of credit.

[@judsongaiden9878]

The "Curse of Thorn" story arc made the most sense. Michael (or whoever else) being a vehicle for a demon summoned by an ancient Celtic curse ties everything in with Samhain ("SOW-when"). Or at least good enough for a pop culture franchise (maybe not so much for history buffs interested in real ancient Celtic culture and their festivals and whatnot). Halloween 3: Season of the Witch was the most authentically Halloween-like of all the Halloween movies, the story being built around the real psychopathic purpose of Samhain, including brutal child sacrifice. 1:41 No Evil Dead 2 reference?! Denied! 11:38 Also, why the blood? That's not 100% medically accurate. All the damage would be internal. People think about forensic details nowadays. How would Columbo write a scene like this? Well, he wouldn't, but that's beside the point.

[@noahletourneau6221]

Your probably the only person that likes halloween 6 and season of the witch

[@judsongaiden9878]

@@noahletourneau6221 I don't think I've seen H6. It's not my favorite "franchise" (I hate that word). I'm more into Evil Dead, Phantasm, and Full Moon movies from the '90s. Do you...like...Trancers?

[@noahletourneau6221]

@@judsongaiden9878 You talked about the curse of thorn story arc which is in H6

[@judsongaiden9878]

@@noahletourneau6221 Oh, right. I get all the numbers confused, partially because movie people can't count. James Rolfe is right. Movie series should be numbered logically and consistently.

[@josephsalmonte4995]

The original Hallowe'en was a masterpiece. The slow walking unstoppable killer, the spine-chilling soundtrack & Jamie Lee Curtis ❤️

[@kendomyers]

Hallowe'en? Why the ' ?

[@liamcollinson5695]

I cannot believe how bad they ended the Halloween film series. I even watched them all ( except season of the witch) and instead of being hyped at the end I was reminded that Halloween was good at one point which just made the whole thing worse

[@marq_8976]

"It's pretty damn cool but it's not scary." That's exactly how I would describe this movie, and it was good enough for me. It was like serial killer simulator where I got to experience what it's like to just kill everyone I don't like for a while.

[@aliminator1310]

It's always a good day when Filmento uploads! ☺

[@mr.lightzplease9366]

The team rocket call out for both Michaels had me laughing so bad. Im subbing to you now

[@SunnyDay_77]

I really wish this movie had kept Cory alive, like a new Michael. It would've been a great way to keep the franchise new and alive while still being able to keep its iconic character. I personally was really into the movie (with a healthy serving of suspension of disbelief to get me through) up until the very end, and I was super excited to see a new Shape. There really isn't a way to keep this saga alive organically now, so I wonder what they'll do next.

[@pad4637]

The Corey and Mike duo killing scene has one of the best songs for the scene, I don't know what it is about it but it gives me goosebumps.

[@drsodiumchloride5041]

I loved this movie, had me laughing from Mike Jr. Wrestling his dad to Michael Myers hanging out with pennywise in the sewers

[@levan3534]

I'll add one more thing here. The whole Michael not being just a person but and idea of evil or the shape if you will, is a decent plot-point to explore and it has always been around in this franchise so it only made sense that they finally fully went for it here, however the problem with that concept for me in Halloween Ends was the way the new killer was introduced and portrayed. In my opinion it went completely against the whole shape of evil idea by getting us to know this character as well as their exact facial features. It would have been hell of a lot cooler and it would have made much more sense to me if they had focused on Michael completely once again but at the end they could have hinted that sooner or later, somewhere that same evil could possibly be reborn in a different family, different child but same evil, same face (or no actual face for that matter) that would also have served as a perfect setup for potential sequels as well. Moreover, the new killer was way too emotional for the Shape and that whole tacked on fake love story was absolutely misplaced honestly.

[@LordStarscream100]

How was it so hard to make a Halloween movie with Michael Myers? Were they competing with Season of the Witch? EDIT: “It was different, you have bad taste” … lol. I appreciate the film trying something new. Doesn’t mean Michael can’t play a big role. His role in a big final showdown was heavily promoted. “Go watch any of the other films” … not an excuse for why this timeline’s finale sucked.

[@EddieSpaghetti555]

There are already 12 of those and you can go watch them whenever you like.

[@LordofSadFac]

Halloween was originally planned as an anthology of movies each centered around Halloween, thats why Season of the Witch has no Michael Myers, but people wanted more of him.

[@neonicon8500]

This movie was the interesting one. You just have bad taste. At least they did something different besides the same boring formula every other Halloween did. This is the best timeline with the most care put into it.

[@GE0333BU]

@@neonicon8500 Sorry, Cupcake. The overwhelming majority of fans feel this movie is s POS. It's just a bad movie

[@panduvandal]

@@neonicon8500 or it's just bad

[@eddieford9373]

The best murder in this movie was the franchise it killed.

[@themyersfan57]

Resurrection: Am I a joke to you?

[@winry2357]

I love your mention of how often you should be scaring your audience. I used to listen to horror novels for fun, but then I started getting into the newer novels and none of them were scary. The one that made me give up on the genre, I was 3 hours in and only 2 mildly creepy things happened. The author had talked more about modern politics than the ghost. He was lucky I gave him 3 hours. I tried deleting that one from my library entirely, but I still can’t figure it out on audible, but I left it with a 1 star review and ripped into it. I don’t watch entertainment to be told how I should think on political issues. I may go back and listen to Amityville horror again, that was good. Or Turn of the Screw. Horror should be scary, not boring.

[@winry2357]

@Fairfax I remember enjoying the Resident Evil books when I was a teen. I haven’t read tons of horror, the two mentioned above are really good. I find Stephen King to be way overrated, I haven’t finished anything by him. I liked Dracula, but that one is older and more difficult. If you’re down to try manga, Junji Ito is the best horror creator out there, in my opinion. I love Sensor and Venus in the Blind Spot. Anne Rice’s Witching Hour is pretty good, too. Horror has never been my genre of choice, but when I do choose to pick it up, it’s gotta keep me on my toes or it’s going to be put back down.

[@TheToaprimezilla]

I agree with you on how a kid who isn’t that much taller than the railing falling over it. He’s like a head taller than it, and Corey is shown to be twice as tall as both the kid and the railing. I mean why would he be standing behind the door as it’s being kicked. It would have made sense that when the he was hit by the door, the force from being hit was enough to push him back against the railing that he broke through it which caused him to fall to his death. That is a major inconsistency.

[@FlippinGurtrude]

The first movie you were routing for Laurie. In the last you're routing for Michael. I'm actually sad he's dead now.

[@Dullfang2]

I feel like if Corey had been a minor character in the first two movies, like maybe he was troubled but still cool and in the background (the babysitting death accident already happened, I don't how or when but something like that). Then it would be revealed in this third movie and we finally find out what was wrong with him and then the story begins, also the granddaughter would have already known him so the romance wouldn't have been so out of nowhere

[@Noperare]

Laurie been paranoid and preparing to fight Michael at any moment for years just in case if he ever escapes. Now that Michael is on the loose and Laurie knows, she is living her best life with absolute no worries.

[@timothynovelo7569]

The DJ’s assistant is the character I was rooting for the most.

[@darragh2511]

Am I right in thinking that was Diana 'Darcy' Prince from the last drive in with Joe Bob?

[@AudicyVEVO]

I left the movie theater so mad I spent money to see this movie

[@kakashikage9483]

I was really hoping Michael was going to go supernatural in this movie. Like, not full on ghosts, ghouls and goblins, but something that could still feel grounded in the world it’s in.. maybe like a Demonic possession. Wether you believe in them or not, there have definitely been recorded events of things like this happening, so it wouldn’t feel too “out there” and it doesn’t have to be a lot, maybe he just actually talks in this one, and his voice sounds like multiple voices speaking at once, something creepy, and alluding to ideals, but never actually coming to an absolute conclusion, because I think it’s better to leave the mystery of him unanswered, however, you could still reveal some things

[@Dres2000]

You should do a comparison between JW Dominion and Halloween Ends. To see which movie is the worst and why it happened

[@scarletkingdom2359]

Both made by universal…

[@LordofSadFac]

Outside of both being totally unnecesary sequels that forgot what their movies were about, i dont see much comparison between them.

[@spinosaurusstriker]

@@LordofSadFac both shit on their stanched rules from their universe

[@drivingwithcoolcody]

JWD I had the smallest semblance of something that might resemble fun... A tiny, microscopic amount. Ends had a great first 5 minutes, and after that I was gobsmacked at how atrocious it was. I don't think you can compare garbage... It's just garbage.

[@MarvinPowell1]

Jurassic World Dominion wasn't that bad and could've easily been fixed had they just merged the pilot's story with the legacy characters' story and dropped the stupid locust plotline, instead of trying to make them two different movies that converge into one for plot convenience. I think Filmento even said that in his video.

[@jaredwatt8769]

Been a Halloween diehard as long as i can remember but this one made me turn my back on the franchise. Streamed at home and i walked away several times

[@bengilhooly3616]

This was basically Jurassic world dominion. It was set up to be something specific and went a completely different direction. Dominion was set up to be about dinosaurs after they're released into the world but ended being about genetically modified locusts. This movie was supposed to be the final confrontation between Laurie and Michael Myers and then Michael was barely in the film. While it was still technically their final confrontation, my other point still stands

[@lordscorch1128]

At least the dinosaurs appeared throughout and did their thing: eat people. Halloween Ends was a love story about a guy named Cory who gets bullied by tiny little band students.

[@mike91mdk45]

THIS. My thoughts exactly

[@DontMessWithCaesar]

The cheerleader from Stranger Things is definitely an example of a character you only see for a few minutes but already have a connection to and fear for them before they get killed off. Even the writers regretted killing her so early in the season.

[@NomisArchives]

I've actually started working on an edit of this film where you are unsure if Corey is actually the new micheal or not, completly ambiguiety for the whole film even the end.

[@TimeBomb014X]

Why put more effort than the actual film makers?

[@NomisArchives]

@@TimeBomb014X I like editing and hope to become one in the future so it's just good practise for me

[@TimeBomb014X]

@@NomisArchives well my dude good luck to ya hope you drum up some business because you put more effort and care to editing HE than the people paid to make it

[@NomisArchives]

@@TimeBomb014X thanks BoJack. Hope some people will actually watch it

[@TimeBomb014X]

@@NomisArchives well Ill give you a sub for when you drop the video I'll give it a watch, maybe you csn make Ends bareable for a rewatch

[@xcellentcreations3312]

This is like making a Friday the 13th movie without Jason Voorhees! Wait....

[@Tattletale-Delta]

lmfao ikr. It's like saying the first one wasn't a good movie. It was. It just wasn't a good Jason movie.

[@TimeBomb014X]

For once, Halloween ripped off Friday The 13th

[@caldw615]

They did it twice. Part 1 had his mother as the killer and Part 5 had a paramedic who's son was killed decide to don a Jason mask and start killing people.

[@yoda3341]

@@caldw615 at least those movies were somewhat decent

[@xcellentcreations3312]

@@caldw615 that's what I meant, mainly for the 5th one

[@HoshMyTots]

I'll never forget the gut sinking disappointment I felt leaving the theaters when I saw this movie. I was expecting Laurie to snap and devote even more of herself and her life to killing Myers after he killed Karen, like full on Halloween (2018) Laurie but on crack cocaine or some shit not a fucking pie burning grandma blogger. I was honestly expecting Laurie to end up sacrificing herself to finally get Myers killed too like she lets him grab her so she can drag him off a cliff with her type of death, then maybe Corey and Allison assume the roles of the new Myers and Laurie some shit like that-- MAN I'm just so annoyed cause there was so much potential and things they could have done and I just feel robbed I honest to god feel robbed I'm so bummed man what a garbage final movie.

[@TonyGunk23]

The idea of Michael Myers being a mantle and not a person is interesting, but it’s like ghostface from scream and they didn’t know how to execute it correctly

[@Demsky83]

How the hell did he fight off a whole mob twice in the last movie and fall victim to one man in this one whose bullies are high-school band members.

[@freddiemercury2075]

When I was watching this movie I had to pause the movie twice just to be sure I was watching the right movie.

[@ericthomas6726]

The Witch isn't scary in the traditional sense either; this movie wasn't about jump scares, it was about an idea and characters.

[@chrisville004]

I don’t understand how it’s so hard to make a good movie without especially when the frame work is laid out for him

[@heatheraucoin5832]

Halloween Ends was a letdown. But I will say I was surprised that the elderly lady that saw her husband getting stabbed with different knives lived as well as Julien, I liked him he was funny and cute (looks like my nephew). The Halloweens that occurred in “2018” I liked the characters bc they were relatable and grew to like them and hope they don’t die. For example, the babysitter and Julien; him witnessing his favorite sitter getting killed, and trying to warn the boyfriend to run, it felt real. In Halloween Ends, you could tell the characters getting killed “deserved” it, so it was like WGAF about them. I felt HE had so many questions unanswered and such as Ben Tramer. I wanna know who he was, how he looked, and was he still alive in this time line universe? Corey’s relationship with his mom was weird, no back story. How is MM still alive and (from what we can tell) hasn’t killed anyone since 2018? Why did MM take an interest to Corey and tag teamed?

[@chrisandrews397]

I'll never forgive them for making Halloween 2018, one of the best horror movies I've seen in YEARS, only to fuck the entire thing up by drawing it out for money. I absolutely refuse to forgive them for this.

[@DougieYT]

And some people were complaining about Kills, at least Kills had Michael Myers doing what we know and love him for, Halloween Ends was just terrible.

[@kainkong274]

Exactly! Halloween kills had evil dies tonight saying but honestly that’s the only negative, the kills, mask, loomis and michael were actually in it and was all fun. Much agreed mate

[@DougieYT]

@@kainkong274 Exactly, besides the annoying Evil Dies Tonight crap, Kills was a pretty solid movie, it’s basically a modernized version of the 1978 original with the only major differences being is a much higher body count and a modernized world much different from when Mike first emerged.

[@kainkong274]

@@DougieYT facts, happy Halloween

[@DougieYT]

@@kainkong274 Same to you to brother, Happy Halloween 🎃🍁🔥

[@mike91mdk45]

The characters in kills largely helped him out with plot armor though lol. Their terrible decisions. But yes, brutal michael is GOOD 👍. Better than weak, side-character michael

[@Bobby_Hall]

I think the weirdest part of this movie is that Laurie doesn’t react at all when she sees Corey wearing Michael’s mask. She should’ve been surprised by it and tried to find out where he got it since that could’ve lead to the capture of Michael. It’s also weird that Laurie and Allyson don’t talk about how Corey and Michael showed up at their house at the same time. Did they think that Corey and Michael were killing together? Did Laurie suspect that Corey stole the mask and Michael just wanted it back? Or did she think Michael wanted revenge against her? It’s just strange that the characters don’t talk about any of this. Also, it’s baffling how there’s no mention of Laurie wasting forty years of her life thinking Michael was planning to get her. When Hawkins told her in Kills that Michael didn’t care about her, she barely reacted to that and there’s no mention of this in Ends. I thought that would’ve been a major focus of her character, to realize what a terrible mistake she made.

[@fatjoe460]

Totally unrelated but went through the Anime Attack on Titan recently which has a fair amount of horror in it. Don't find the horror scary for myself but to the characters in the story I legit feared for their safety (and felt sorry for their untimely deaths). The writer put a lot of effort in the series getting you attached with not only the main (and supporting) characters but even the minor characters whom are more likely to be killed horribly. Something these people who make these movies long forgotten how to do.

[@thisismyrealname3471]

Imagine if directors, writers, etc looked at Filmetos videos. Countless movies would be saved from critical and financial failure. I just finished his Thor love and thunder video, Marvel could use the talent 🤡

[@IAMTRASHMAN267]

I like what Halloween Ends was trying to get at. I just think this needed to be set up earlier in the trilogy to really send it home. It feels like a tacked-on idea when it is introduced in the final entry in this trilogy.

[@benjaminaltube8731]

Gotta love the tonal differences between 2019 filmento and 2022 filmento

[@jspaceemperor420]

I've always hated the depiction of love/attraction (only because it's never been depicted correctly) in movies and Corey and Allyson are a prime example of that

[@sanna9062]

Why do you think it wasn't depicted correctly?

[@jspaceemperor420]

@@sanna9062 They immediately fell in love once they met, no awkward stage no trial stage That's not how relationships work in the real world, unfortunately love at first sight is a thing Hollywood has tried to pass off as a normal thing for decades despite the scientific fact that it's not possible

[@Conner_A]

Idk if im reaching, but i think the new Halloween trilogy is supposed to be an allegory for abuse/generational trauma, which would explain cory in the movie Edit: one thing i would do to make the opening scene better is i would have it established that Corey was part of the mob that hunted Michael, and he was a survivor of the final fight because he ran away, and when he is locked in the attic, we could have a hallucination of Michael slowly approaching corey to justify his fear due to his ptsd from fighting michael

[@CoachBibbs]

My wife and I literally checked the timestamp ant it read roughly 39 minutes before we even saw Michael

[@KEVCRABSTM]

Halloween Ends was down right awful, and DGG will probably do the same thing with The Exorcist. I have no faith in his horror film making skills. Halloween 2018 started off so well, but, half way through Kills it was going down hill (mob scenes/poor ending), and Ends was a complete cataclysmic catastrophe (the worst in all horror)! Michael Myers deserved an epic final film, final act, and even the advertising/marketing for the film alluded to an epic conclusion. All we got was Old Man Myers in a small bit part!

[@Jose-se9pu]

To be fair, 90% of slasher movies dont do horror, they do gore porn.

[@anecro]

Yep. This is why I (as not a follower of the Halloween series) actually found it enjoyable. I'm there to watch cool kills and the movie delivered. Plot and characters were stupid but in my experience that's just the way it is with these movies lmao, I'm not going to watch a slasher for any of those 2 things.

[@giiavvana]

this movie is still trash regardless 😂

[@predator7939]

You mean like sexual violence?

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@anecro It took the majority of the movie to deliver on like 3 decent kills lmao. You might as well just watch the Terrifier movies in that case

[@michaelsinger4638]

It’s so baffling that they decided, in the final film in this trilogy and JLC last time playing Laurie, to sidelined the established characters and make some random new guy we’ve never seen or heard of before the focus? Also Laurie feels very OOC here and I HATED how her granddaughter was written.

[@MonkeyKingsformerroomate]

The railing thing isn't nitpicky I thought that too. Wondered why they didn't break the railing. Even if that wouldn't make sense either really. Kid wouldn't be heavy enough to break through the railing also. He'd have to be hit really hard to get thrown with enough force to break through and at that point the hit would probably have killed him.

[@slimmccoy8863]

The parents seeing their kid hit the floor was the only real horror in the scene. Too bad physics took the weekend off.

[@MonkeyKingsformerroomate]

@@slimmccoy8863 I actually laughed when he bounced. Not sure what that was about.