A Random Convo About Church

[@AHeapOfSalt]

I found a church last year after not going for YEARS. Now I’m there so much, and am always one of the lasts to leave. This community has impacted my life in such a large way; it’s such a blessing to experience the love of Christ with people that love Him just as much as you do. If you haven’t been in a while, please do not forsake the assembly. There’s a reason we need each other. Join a church, and serve, and commune with the body of Christ. It’s vital

[@Fe24Nom]

❤

[@tinicoleofficial]

I love to hear this!❤️✨

[@kenalek]

I have the same story to share, mine happened this year and God oh God... it's been amazing❤

[@kap849]

Same here. I think I spent all my free time at church from Sunday service, discipleship classes, evening prayers, Bible study, at some point I began to question if one can do too much church. But I found so much joy in being in the presence of God with other believers!

[@AHeapOfSalt]

@@kap849 there’s nothing like it! I was just telling my Dad, it’s legitimate fun for me to sit around with my brothers and sisters in Christ and hear what God is doing in their lives and how He’s speaking to them through scripture. Truly, to know Him is to love Him, and I don’t want to ever experience life without Him again.

[@briiSkii]

Charles Stanley is another. He was the first non charismatic preacher I listened to and I actually started to LEARN something 💕

[@robinwade8141]

Charles Stanley definitely left a mark on mankind. He was on point and the thing that I liked about him most is he NEVER brought politics into the pulpit. I think that is my biggest pet peeve about how ppl use the pulpit to get their agenda’s known. I’ve stopped listening to two pastors that I like that have sound doctrine (it’s unfortunate too) because they brought politic into their messages. Our political system is definitely set up by man even though they can’t do anything without God allowing it. But voting is personal and to me and should remain personal. Because I study the Bible daily, when I hear a pastor continue to misrepresent I stop listening to them. My husband and I are trying to find a church now because I feel it’s important to be present. But I do attend a Bible study weekly, have a prayer partner and listen to strong teachings. I think we just have to pray for repentance for ppl that don’t share the true gospel because we all are fallen and for sure need Christ. I think sometimes it’s pride but only God can correct that in ppl, but prayer goes a long way.

[@Vhhandle]

Great man of God🙌🏾

[@ShamirYukno]

Same! RIP to him. I am grateful for his teachings and the many devotionals on the bible app by him.

[@ShauntalCC]

Amen

[@tpisbrave1135]

Agree💯

[@lamontedwards9293]

I feel finding a community is easier said then done

[@tinicoleofficial]

It can be rough, but we have to look at things logically & from God’s standpoint. Is the Gospel being preached? Does the church emphasize on discipleship & evangelism? Is the worship genuine? Too often we look at things from an emotional standpoint, myself included.

[@dave-giveusfree-evans1068]

It seems like folks think we haven't tried. There are so many places of hurt... And now to be told that its mandatory! Church drama! Large churches are loaded with hurt people that hurt people.

[@BrandonLadelleTV]

“He didn’t die just so I could learn about me. He died so that I could know God”. Jackie Hill-Perry 2023 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Sheesh 😭

[@Meliro73]

Tony Evans is solid! His ministry has helped me to spiritually mature!

[@tinicoleofficial]

He’s a really good preacher

[@ladylucia85]

Yes! He is the only online preacher I watch. His teachings are biblically sound & he's unafraid to share all parts of the bible.

[@aubrie_morgan]

To each his own.

[@deewilson9952]

​@@ladylucia85I like his daughter, Priscilla shirer. She's good as well.

[@Proverbs_8_feeds_my_soul]

@@deewilson9952I had no idea she was his daughter!

[@jenniferlouis677]

Tony Evans, Charles Stanley and Chuck Swindoll, these 3 men has fed me, cause me to grow and hold on to God for all times.

[@sade_8637]

Yess❤. May I add Adrian Rogers (love worth finding) to this list!🙏🏾

[@tanyahylton3354]

SAMEsies!!! I grew up on them! Now Andy Stanley is added to the mix.

[@HaleemaMcCree]

They go so deep, so fast and with so much conviction, wisdom, grace, and TRUTH! I appreciate their pure ministry unto the Lord.

[@gavinrhughes4712]

YES!!!

[@Apologeticsnoapology]

I really appreciate this. Became a Christian 4 years ago and I’ve been hurt by some Christian’s I saw as mentors. Decided to go to church for healing and it was all worth it. My relationship is closer to God and I’ve learned what forgiveness meant. People please go to Church. If Christian’s have hurt you please know that God did not. He will restore you! Also pray for those who hurt you and also pray for yourself to not hurt others as well.

[@georgeloveofg8192]

I love you guys no cap. Your layout of expressions of the church and all there in are reasons I like and dislike consistently attending. Your conversation encompasses the package of love God love community but the best balance is to locate a decent building to visit and clear balance online. Thanks for helping.

[@TheSpiritSword]

I struggle with going to church because I feel like people in church are sooooo fake!! I know dudes in the streets with more integrity then anyone I ever met at any church I ever been to. But when Jackie read Acts 9:3-6 It really hit me hard. I love y’all ❤️

[@tamikalove2658]

The Body needs you and you also need the body we 😍 everyone in the church is not apart of the body just like every street guy don’t have integrity. Grace & Peace be multiplied🙏🏾

[@carmencarter844]

That’s the enemies way of keeping you out!! God said that people will cast out devils in my name but they never knew me. People can operate in a form of Godliness but deny the power of God. God wastes nothing if it’s enough to get the 100 fold He will allow it

[@TheBenitaAngela]

That one scripture will get us every time. It’s okay to be frustrated with your fellow Body when we act outside of what God desires of us. But remember, it’s HARD out here being a believer in a broken world. I also gotta add, dudes in the streets are generally operating in an illegal space. Which means they are also operating in deception, off bat. While their standards or codes of conduct might be something they “honor” or abide by- it’s easy because it’s worldly/ flesh-based- and inherently wicked (saying wicked sounds so churchy, but 🤷🏾‍♀️). We, the Church, are held to a higher standard, where we, every day, every minute have to operate outside of what seems natural to us (and sometimes the world around us). It’s hard. We be sucking at it ALL the time. All of us. Every day. And in the Church, that trying is exposed to your peers at a different level. I say that to say, try not to compare the natural deception of the world to the vulnerability of The Church. You’ve got this cause God has got you. Walking with you-- and, honestly, showing you areas to pray about. Cause The Body of Christ really do be messy. Lol

[@LadyK4233]

There’s FAKE people everywhere love. I’ve experienced this in my own Family etc. Jesus isn’t fake. I remember reading in the Bible how he was very honest with people especially the Pharisees and they hated it. 😊😊😊😊

[@lelo46]

That’s crazy because it’s FAKE folk in the street. I’m from Chicago so, Naw, it’s more fake ppl out here than if I went in the church. If I’m being real.

[@BrandonLadelleTV]

“The Bible points to a person, and that person is not me” - Preston Perry 2023 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mckeesc]

First of all, I would just like to say that I love your podcast and I’ve learned so much from listening to you. There have been times I have literally been driving in my car and pulled over to write something down that you said. Y’all touched on something today that I see a lot in my own community: Consumer Christianity … how many people bounce around looking for the trendiest church, or the most entertaining pastors. I think we should all pray for wisdom and discernment, and seek pastors and leaders who point us to Jesus and speak the Word first and foremost. If they aren’t teaching scripture more than anything else this should be a red flag. We need to get away from going to church with an attitude of selfish fulfillment and look for churches that are building us as disciples of Christ. Y’all touched on this so eloquently today. I think this is an important conversation to keep having. Thank you so much for your ministry and using your gifts to teach and guide us!

[@valeriejairosi]

I was just talking about consumerist church (I said capitalistic church) the other day - but from a different POV. How unfortunately a lot of church leadership will invest in discipling a congregant only if there's a return on investment. For example, "I will teach you to read and interpret the text so you can join the pastoral team or lead a sector of the church", but not necessarily because they want that congregant to grow and mature in their own walk with Christ. This podcast definitely humbled me though. For so long I thought it was Godly to point out all the flaws in church, but I seldom did anything about it or even prayed fervently on it.

[@shanaparrilla978]

I go from church to church to find the opposite of that church is not about trendy music and sermons but about truly transforming lives towards Christ

[@tinicoleofficial]

Yesss! Speak on it!🗣️ it’s a problem when people are more focused on the entertainment of the pastor more than the Word of God💯

[@missrhonda8891]

This makes me think about itching ears! I also believe that the “boring” preaching teaches discipline, and reveals things about where you are in your flesh and spiritual walk in Christ. The same for listening to gospel music. It’s like are you really able to worship God or are you in your emotions. Again this is my own personal perspective via the things I myself encountered. This conversation really blessed me. I enjoy these kinds of conversations.

[@JG-id5vi]

Yea, I remember Fracnis chan talking about someone complaining to him how they "Didn't like worship today" and he was like " That's OK, we weren't worshipping you." That's always stuck with me now when I hear people complain about worship they fear of the Lord comes. It's nice to have skilled worshipers, but that's not always possible. At the end of the day, it's about our hearts.

[@BunmiAdejimiE]

I can relate to Preston on Tim Keller. I started listening to him again a few months ago and I have never understood the gospel and salvation better. Praise God for his life.

[@taebrown384]

Tim Keller is my favourite, he really had a teaching gift 🙌

[@Tyasiaaaa]

When I first came to Christ I was absolutely against being apart of a church because of church hurt and pride tbh but TODAY 👏🏾 I absolutely love my local church and I can’t even imagine where I’d be in life, spiritually without them!

[@dominiquedavidson568]

I left my the catholic church 9 years ago and haven't been to an actual church since. I came back to faith in 2018 and have been reading and studying the Bible ever since and growing my relationship with Christ. During the pandemic I turned to the "mega" churches online and I do see now that most of it is motivational speaking. I know God commands us to have fellowship and we were not meant to follow Christ in isolation. I have felt the loneliness since my family doesn't have strong faith and I have few friends who share the love of God like me. Last week I found a church close to me and I plan to try it out Sunday! Im really excited and hopeful but I also have some anxiety about going alone and making friends. Im shy and Im not the best at initiating conversation. Please pray for me that this is a good fit and that im finally able to find friends and a community. I am so happy God led me to this channel, it has really impacted my life. its so refreshing to find people who can preach the word of God but keep it real about how hard it can be as a Christian in todays age! God bless y'all!

[@lisaburke7506]

If I could give advice on visiting churches that has helped me in the past, it sometimes helps to reach out by email in advance and to speak with the pastor or an elder. That way should you go in person, it isn't a "cold visit" but a "warm" one where someone there already knows a bit about you and why you're there. You can also ask questions in advance and know a bit more about them, and in speaking with you they may think of someone they could connect you with so that you don't feel like a complete fish out of water.

[@tinicoleofficial]

@@lisaburke7506that’s good advice💯

[@myrajohnson1523]

I pray you find your purpose in ministry there. Be strong (in the Lord) and you will find a good church home. Everybody needs 3 good homes! Your home, a church home, and a heavenly home. Blessings always ❤

[@shaquillekiragu]

This is great advice. Thank you sister 🙌🏿

[@nchandler9416]

Hi, just curious to know how the visit went and if you've found a church home

[@kingdomaviana]

With the Perry’s has totally changed my life and my relationship with my husband. Thank you so much for y’all’s marriage and just zeal for the Lord!❤️🔥

[@samukelongwane7412]

I'm 21 years old and I'm still in university. I've been church hoping for so long since being here, and I just pray that God leads me to a local church that I can be a part of. The issue that I have is that I often feel ignored or left out in a church I'm new at. Everyone usually has their cliques and I guess my social anxiety doesn't allow me to connect with them. But through prayer and God's will, I won't give up trying.I'm all the way from South Africa by the way 🇿🇦

[@jennysteward1675]

Know that you are not alone in that. It’s tough out here trying to get incorporated into the church, especially when there are cliques.

[@zonella]

exactly its so easy to feel left out!!

[@antoinettegeorge855]

I thank God we were able to still seek God's face in the confines of our home during the pandemic. My husband preached to family each Sunday leading back to the Churches reopening.

[@MzCrayKray]

Just watched your video about the humanity of celebrities. It's so hard to not look at yall as our friends. I feel like yall sitting on the couch chilling talking about lifes important subjects. Yall are so cool, laid back, funny, and relatable. A lot of us are missing this in our christian circle.

[@brandyfriend221]

Right??😂 I already told them they my best friends in my head.😂❤

[@tinicoleofficial]

So true!💯

[@shaloma.4039]

Dude only 1:30 in and I’m CRYING at the Whitney Houston impression 😂😂😂

[@NBnNC]

Hebrews 10:25 “Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”

[@mizndmi8703]

I’m musically inclined, and I’m extremely sensitive to sound that i become overstimulated when things are off. The church i attend, the worship team is so amazing that I feel every moment, and I bawl my heart out every service. The pastor’s messages and deliverance are great, and I learn a lot from the services. His voice though, has a particular tone that is sharp to the ear and without soft contrast. Almost like nails on a chalkboard for me for some reason. I feel bad for feeling that way. I always see it through because it’s not about me; I came there for Jesus, not my comfort. I just feel bad for thinking those thoughts about the pastor at all though.

[@nayathomas8863]

Oh my gosh! I can relate to this. Is this called something?

[@daniellewardd]

There’s a pastor I used to watch on KZbin. His stuff is good but I couldn’t stand his voice so I stopped listening to him 😅.

[@SloansAbroad]

Asking for prayer. My husband is a believer but is against church attendance because he thinks they're all corrupt. I miss community so much.

[@xxjanai]

As someone who has found you guys in the last year or so, I feel like y'all need to do a "get to know us" podcast. You drop bits and pieces from your past in every episode but would love to hear a timeline. Walk with god from the beginning, meeting each other, your "careers" and what has brought you to this point of recognition

[@abbeyabernathy1606]

As a woman 31 in the Midwest it’s almost taboo to still be single. I appreciate the acknowledgment and compassion.

[@tinicoleofficial]

Right bc it’s so easy be in a relationship if you’re willing to compromise & not wait on God

[@JG-id5vi]

In massachusetts, it's the opposite. People married with more than 2 children are almost looked at like parasites. (From the world, not the church) When I was married in my early 20s, people thought something was wrong with me.

[@jazujesus]

I heard this couple of years ago: for the church to become yours - you have to find a need and start serving

[@BGS4L]

18:23 - 18:48 THIS PART💯💯 I went through my journey during the pandemic seeking a community but found myself believing in prosperity gospel instead of the LORD’s GOSPEL. I’m still learning and getting there. I felt discouraged after finding out how much I was deep but with the help of this podcast, praying and learning to read more of his word : I’m getting there🙏🏽 Thank you Lord for your patience and guidance ♥️♥️

[@ramonabridgett9058]

Shout out to Eric Mason from Epiphany Fellowship here in Philadelphia ❤ phenomenal teacher preacher and pastor.

[@inokerogoyawa]

He is that dude !!

[@marlanacherry3201]

RIP Tim Keller. He truly helped me to have a solid foundation in my relationship with God. Great talk today!

[@Queenlikesoul]

34:45 I was saying to my friend that God is really calling us to the carpet right now about being disciplined and discipled. It’s important to be aware that even leaders are sheep to a point

[@lisaburke7506]

There is a video on YT made by a Catholic content creator that was on how the protestant notion of worship isn't really worship. As he explained himself, I started to understand what he meant. In many non-denominational/protestant churches, "worship" is synonymous with "music". Recently, I had the chance to visit an orthodox church, both out of curiosity and out of a desire to better understand my brothers and sisters in the faith from other church traditions. It was during that entire 3+ hour long service that I truly began to understand what that creator meant. The collective chants of scripture professing the tenets of our faith, the prayers for the global church and the orthodox priesthood for fidelity to the teachings of Christ, the collective prayer for the forgiveness of sin, the sing-song chants of praise and glory to the triune God, and more. In that moment I felt what I experienced was true worship. I have so many questions following that experience like why more non-denominational churches do not include prayers for fidelity to the word for church leadership as part of their regular service? Why don't we collectively profess the tenets of our faith, especially if we are "seeker friendly"? If someone unfamiliar with Christianity had walked into that orthodox church, they would leave knowing exactly what it is Christ taught and the Church practices because it is laid out plainly. In most modern protestant churches that I have attended, it's "worship music --> announcements --> teaching --> closing prayer -->fellowship, maybe". And Sundays are centered around the teaching, which isn't bad, but could risk becoming a glorified extended Bible study with a mini concert at the start. It would be nice to hear thoughts on how to bring more worship into the non-denominational church that extends beyond music.

[@noble604]

Thank you for your thought provoking comment. May I suggest we keep in the forefront of our minds what biblical “worship” actually is? Perhaps it would help us to spend time with The Lord searching and researching the scripture on the meaning of worship, where it’s mentioned in the Bible, how it’s expressed and what are we commanded to do with it. Wor(th)ship is declaring the *worth of GOD our Father through the gift and might of JESUS. If a church service Is about our collectively voicing our prayers and needs, speaking our faith to The Lord, declaring our commitment to Him, as well-meaning and obedient as that iis, is that “worship?” Is that declaring the magnificence, worth, glory, majesty, power, dominion that all belong to Him... and to Him only? It might be helpful for us to understand what “wor(th)ship” is to express it in the highest, holiest way.

[@lisaburke7506]

​@@noble604 I encourage you to attend an Eastern orthodox church, as you misunderstand my post. I do not want to misrepresent their practices (again, I was only a visitor). However, what was performed in their service can be mistaken for nothing other than worship of our Heavenly Father and worship in the highest and holiest way. Peace to you.

[@derickaah]

“Stained God’s carpet” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@arielprivott844]

I’m only 17 minutes in but this conversation has made me SOOOO thankful for my church home! I love those folks😂😂😂😂

[@tinicoleofficial]

Which church you go to?👀

[@sharitastinson109]

A much needed conversation! Minute by minute, both of you are giving great examples of what is needed in the body of Christ. One key takeaway for me was the importance of discipleship! I grew up learning that salvation is free, but discipleship cost everything. This conversation is EVERYTHING! I am grateful for true teachers like you both, you are relevant to the Kingdom!

[@alyssakalette]

Jerry Flowers Jr. of Redefinedtv is one of my all time favorite Pastors. A voice for this generation, just like you Perry's.

[@HisGraceAndMercy]

Chuck Swindoll/Alistair Begg.. Two of my favorites.. Both solid teachers🙏🏾

[@CED.Dweller]

This was a beautiful moment. I, too, was healed from church hurt through God connecting me to a different church. Years later, the Lord led me back to the church where the hurt began to close the circle on that hurt. Thank you for following Holy Spirit’s leading in this conversation (and that magnificent prayer!).

[@rachelmutambara7587]

the color palette of this video is stunning. visually beautiful AND the word is good. I love it here.

[@AngelicWomanofGod]

Great discussion! 1. Never Forget Jesus in Our Teachings whether pulling from Old or New Testament. 2. Never Forget the Church is God's Bride and being a part of the Body of Believers is important. 3. Sit Under/Follow someone that points you to Jesus. ❤🙌🏽

[@ramonabridgett9058]

Charles Stanley was another great teacher.

[@moet131]

One of the best!!

[@ChildofGod98765]

I trust in God and keep faith even as I struggle to take care of my children and myself. As a single mother things are so hard on me. Both of my sons are autistic I’m overwhelmed. God please hear my prayers. I’m constantly struggling to buy groceries and constantly struggling to pay rent and now that I’m home schooling my sons I’m struggling to buy their school supplies. I’m so ashamed and overwhelmed so please be kind. I choose to have faith over fear as christians that’s all we can do. No matter your struggle, we can turn to God. He knows us personally and can give us strength to overcome our challenges. Heavenly and merciful Father, I come before your glorious throne today, in humble adoration please help me overcome my struggles and my constant fear of homelessness. Walking with faith is all I can do! ❤

[@ms.g4197]

I pray Jesus brings you peace. May you feel his presence daily 🙏🏽 ❤

[@comeclowe]

19:00 Good point Preston! Thank you for saying this. I’ve experienced this for so many years. 19:25 🙌🏾

[@bridgetwilson9599]

"God will use what hurt you to heal you" -Preston When Preston said this I was rocked to my soul. I have been praying over the intimacy in my marriage. My husband was SA'd from the time he was a toddler to a young teen. Since having our son I can't be intimate with him without thinking about this and how evil lust for the body is. Preston's simple statement even though he was talking about church hurt hit me so deeply and answered my prayer. The thought that God can use our covenant intimacy to help heal this part of him is such a gift to me. Thank you guys for what you do. It is such a blessing!

[@patriciaarrigoni3221]

YOu are so correct, Jackie! You are right on with social media is making it hard for the local pastor. I am having a hard time finding a local pastor that has the kind of teaching I have gotten from people like you, Tony Evans, Levi Lusko, Franis Chan, etc. It makes it hard to listen to someone that isn't on that same caliber.

[@1990imthebest]

I love their relationship so much 😭😂😂🙌🏾🫶🏾

[@tinicoleofficial]

Same🥹 it’s encouraging

[@InSubmission]

I’ve been a Christian for a while now as I came to Christ around 18 years ago, and my experience with 90% of churches is that community didn’t play a part in it. Everyone smiled and gave high fives at church but during the week you heard from no one and then it was rinse/repeat on Sunday’s. When my son was born for example, no one was there for us from the church, even though we attended a megachurch at the time. In fact, I had more non Christian friends because to me and my family, they showed more genuineness than Christians in the church. My personal opinion is that it’s mainly because of familiarity within groups or “cliques” where Christians didn’t want to open up to newer people (as opposed to staying in the comfortable group they grew up with) is because it was a lot of work, at least this was my experience with most Christians. I’m now attending a church with my wife and children where we are blessed to have some community in the church, but the sad thing is that it took going to many churches in order to find a church that we could have community with. So I’ve written a song about it called “Community”, and here’s a link to my music video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZTThJl8o62LjKssi=iUSWrmkv-aKVE4R7 I’ve also explained the meaning behind my song “Community” in a video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn60eIamd6uSeM0si=Fo7zupKQYifq1t6H

[@Justchillinfornow]

Tbh until the church becomes a real family willing to lay down our lives for one another (1 Thess 2:8, Phil 2;17, 1 Peter 4:9, ), many people see it as nothing more than a social club thrown in with some preaching and worship. About 23:27- there are people who are coming from a whole family where they are the only believer and they are losing everything in terms of fundamental support. They look to the church, but many times its run more like a self-interested business. Then they walk away disillusioned. Thank you for approaching this with a nuanced understanding and the prayers at the end. Bless you both for the work you’re doing.

[@Algorythm-C]

This is amazing dialogue. I love the dexterity of the Perry's faith talk and walk in God. Much love salute. Greater Deliverance in Inglewood CA is an great place to grow. Shameless plug. Lol

[@StrongHer40]

All of this 🙌🏽!!!! I am so glad you two are talking about this. I leave a church that only preaches their opinions for the first 30mins and only 5mins of the Word. But thank God I read my Word, I pray and I am round people who are grounded in their faith. The church is for the sick not to be entertained ! I need Jesus the Lamb and Lion because life can be HARD. Thank You Father 🙏🏾

[@almacosta5229]

I started a virtual Bible study group and we’d meet twice a week, fast together, pray together virtually. We’ve done this for the past three years. Each one of us felt we grew so much. We are still doing studies virtually but meet on Sundays for service. God has been bringing people to service who have been giving there lives to Christ!! We are in awe of what He is doing!!!!

[@rayzay-3659]

The Perry couple is so in depth in conversation and insightful with explanation of God's Holy Word. They are both wonderful and intelligent to view!!❤❤❤. They are great students of God's Word. They represent truth, authenticity and modern about the millennial church and lifestyle of post pandemic Christianity ...Love u both 😊

[@shaneepatrice456]

Thank you for that prayer. I’m currently at a church I want to leave that Good hasn’t released me from. Thank you. 🙏🏾 51:24

[@dl2310]

I watch Pastor Tony Evans as well. Pastor Paul LeBoutillier of Calvary Chapel in Ontario Oregon who is a phenomenal teacher of God's word. Very thorough.

[@sugarplum019]

It’s amazing to me how you both are amazing God is amazing When I almost lost everything (by mistakes through my addiction) I remember telling my mom I was getting “help” from everywhere and none of it was directly from scripture or God in fact all of it was outside of God so My mom would pray for me and with me I remember being lost it was horrible I’m so grateful for God saving me and my family we are all together happy God bless you both always Thank you

[@clamb6525]

I'm glad that she said this because I've been frustrated about the GOSPEL NOT being preached!!!

[@moonriversteph]

“Ya’ll treating me like Im a leper because Im not married.” As a single mom who attends a church she enjoys but finding it hard to connect with others because of where Im at in life is a real thing. But Im encouraged by this conversation to look at the church as who Jesus identifies with, as his bride so I need to offer more of myself to it. Regardless how out of place I feel, I know I have something to offer and eager to learn. Jackie you a real one thinking of those who are looked over young and old. 🕊️ God bless you both.

[@latarshiayoung7517]

This is such a well needed discussion. I always say that every sermon should be connected to the gospel. From Genesis to Revelation, it's all about Jesus!!

[@katrinamiles9675]

Yes, Dr. Keller: The Meaning of Marriage and The Reason for God!

[@TonyaWuzHea]

Yesss random church convo. 😁 You ever hear people say, “You said it” “But you were thinking it” 😌 Love the dialogue as usual 🥰

[@angelslovelybraiders2366]

“Teach you how to look for God when you’re by yourself”💯💯💯

[@ArtaviousCrooms]

Their teaching and ministry always bless me. I love the truth, humility, and grace that is always poured out. I think as far as their conversation about the preachers who give "both" John Bevere is a wonderful example. Interesting enough, their podcast is a great example of focusing in on the truth versus entertaining the body and shows that the truth can be and is the most captivating thing.

[@SFANIEL1]

Excellent instruction - criticizing the church is criticizing God's beloved bride. Good word. Pray and seek how I can help vs. separating myself from the body that I am a part of. Great correction. ❤

[@CandaceLeAnne]

This random conversation was one of the richest conversations on the topic of the church that I’ve heard. The body is perplexingly complex and yet each joint (member) supplies. I absolutely love both of you testifying to the answer, which is to find Jesus at the root of all things underpinning corporate worship. What he came for. What he did. How he acts and what he leads us in doing and being for his glory. Who we belong to and the inheritance in Christ Jesus that we have. THANK YOU 🙏

[@aishagarcia5844]

Worship is for no other reason than to worship God. No matter how it sounds to us listening. Ive heard of musicians and singers who are not even believers in Christ Jesus that perform every church service because they are employed by the church. Sometimes we focus on the entertainment aspects that church has become

[@tinicoleofficial]

This!🗣️👏🏾💯 I see both sides of it, but genuine worship is the most important thing

[@godsgirl9497]

I think there’s also a problem with mega churches that have sound teaching and great worship teams but lack in community.

[@rachellewilliams6258]

That was so good Preston! People want to be entertained instead of straight Teaching without all the extra. Give me Jesus and the Word without fillers most of the time. That’s enough for me.

[@turquoise2833]

Thank you for this discussion. I was very shallow in the Word. My last church read the Bible, but didn’t encourage us to read it, just to show up at church. All heck was breaking loose and I didn’t understand because, I went to church. I left that church. Not until Covid did I study my Bible daily, pray and fast and allow the Holy Spirit to teach me the truth of God’s word and about the fruits of the Spirit. Now I’m in a Bible based church that encourages us to read God’s living word for ourselves, and rely on Jesus to be our Savior. Yes it was God who told me to connect back with the church and he showed me who his people are.

[@christinepatmon511]

This conversation is critical. The importance of the church/temple is shown all throughout Scripture. In the Old Testament, God provided very detailed design for the temple. He was detailed about everything, including making Levites the priests, the offerings, the clothing to be worn. During His time here, Jesus spent time in the temple from His youth through adulthood. He was at the temple when His parents "lost" Him. He reserved some of His harshest words (i.e. brood of vipers) for religious leaders and showed physical anger at wrongdoing in the temple. It's safe to say, God loves His places of worship. But it's the 1st place we will leave if hurt or witnessing something we don't like. I have been guilty. Today, I refuse to leave what God loves, which in essence blames Him for the actions of people. Thanks for the convo Sis and Bro Perry!

[@staceystevenson6206]

Why do I love this podcast so much? Why does it bring me so much conviction and point me back to the almighty God ?… yall Bom low key

[@bthechurch7877]

I am praying for God to connect me to a place that points to Jesus and He alone. When I was released by God from a church I then hunger and craved for a Christian community who loved God so much that I ended up in a very cunning and deceiving cult....now I got all that mess to deal with. Thank you Lord for knowing who YOU are and for pulling me out. I DO NOT want to do this of my own EVER AGAIN, and I am terrified of ending up in the wrong place again. Please pray for my ear to hear God and where He leads me. Thank you!!

[@two_of_four_sisters]

Saw this episode and binged all of the chapters in 2-3 days! Yo! AMAZING! It was beautifully put together! 💯❤️

[@robinpeters9066]

Amen!!! You said why are we here in the pew if the pastor doesn’t have time to get to the scripture. Then it’s not a sermon it’s a good feeling speech but Gods word just took a back seat. Watered down faith. I try to be very selective about who I listen to because it’s all about God, Jesus and the word not making me feel good. Which is why I do listen to you both. You are word grounded and biblically sound, yet no matter what we as the people have to be in the word ourself to know we are hearing truth!!! Thank you guys for being true

[@MimiDione]

Wow this is so good. I have always had a problem with Christians who fight against the church and I have asked God how to deal with that and how to pray for them. Today I understand from this podcast that their lashing out is a cry for help and an outward expression of their hurt and it is my duty as their sister in Christ to love them and pray for them instead of being irritated and exasperated by their outbursts. Thank you so much. I have been healed from this podcast because I was truly frustrated by people who say they love Jesus but are persecuting him by talking against the church. I now realize Jesus is not persecuted by them, he hurts alongside them and he wants them made whole and restored. They are still a part of his body. They are just wounded and hurt. I now know how to pray and love them. Thank you.

[@danescabaez2896]

I enjoy listening to Skip Heitzig, the way he breaks down the word and has been doing so for over 20 years. It continues to point me to God and see things differently with more meaning and understanding.

[@african4eva]

Ohhhmygoshhh, lol!! STOP PLAYIN' WITH ME BOBBY was on repeat before I finally listened to the rest of this video. 😂😂😂

[@sianafrank2326]

Every episode is always amazing !! Jackie I felt that fire girl lol I get so annoyed with the motivational speaking trend in the churches today that strays away from God purpose of having His Word here in writing for us. But side note “google : what is exegetical” 😭😭❤️

[@jenniferrogers3735]

Thanks for the range of topics in this podcast. As another minister of God's word often says "rhymes and riddles" is what comes from the pulpit and not the word of God. Loved the way you both emphasized JESUS!! Keep lifting His Holy name

[@jimmypugh6784]

One of the most powerful podcast I’ve watched!!! Whew!!!!

[@25447carepear]

17:49 -17:56 YAAASS! Preachers are more into being clever than theologically sound.. This is why I can't sit in a church for 5 to ten minutes and know at " the warm up," whether I'm going to stay or not. I wish Lisa Fields invited y'all to " Courageous Convos," in D. C. at the end of the month...

[@seanmurray4808]

Great discussion...I like what you said, the message must always point to "JESUS". Amen. Love you guys, you're awesome.

[@LivingProof98]

35:22 My pastor say this often: "how you want to go to heaven and not like church?" With what you said about God delighting in a local body gathering together made me think of that and I think that's true. In heaven we gonna be singing God's praises, in the presence of God together.

[@adrianoedwards2440]

I was introduced to Jackie on a Jude 3 project video and found her very insightful, powerful, and articulate. I have since shared Jude 3 and her to some of my circle. Now bring introduced to the both of you through a video you did with Dr. Eric Mason, I have been pulled into "With The Perry's". Continue to let your light shine that people may see your good works and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

[@stephanieevans9206]

Praise the Lord Jackie and Preston I think you young people are phenomenal. I really admire your passion for Christ. And your leadership ability and that is esteem role models you are for every young married Christian couple. I really touched on that speaking in tongues I was at this apostolic Church years ago you have to read some of testimony

[@dejamayfield3400]

Before you said his name, I was thinking of Tony Evans!!!! He is a Bible teacher. When I was in my beginning stages of learning God again, Dr. Evans really was good for me.

[@leonardodias7466]

I needed that. Recently witnessed terrible things of my leaders, I just wanted to give up. Like Peter, it feels like Jesus is calling me to Him at the waves, outside of this "boat" that is full of true disciples/brothers that I love. But there's the fear of the waves (uncertainty to find a new church), or that the calling I'm hearing is just a delusion, like the disciples thought when they saw Jesus over the waves. I'm waiting for direction. 50:53 Preston literally prayed for me. And I'm thankfull for that. God bless you!!!

[@YEM8991]

Super excited and happy for you Maya and your new bundle of joy 😊. God bless you and your family. Welcome to the world Ezra ❤️

[@radiofalcon3993]

Made me look up Tim Keller... and I enjoyed him and will continue to listen to him

[@angelslovelybraiders2366]

WOG!!!! Jackie!!! You just said a mouth full 18:50!!! The thread!!!🏃🏾‍♀️🏃🏾‍♀️🏃🏾‍♀️🏃🏾‍♀️🏃🏾‍♀️🏃🏾‍♀️🏃🏾‍♀️ My God, my God!! You put it in words I could not explain it!! I’ve send leaders become idols base on this rather they intentionally did it or not!! And I agree... this is a huge problem 💯

[@demarkestbrooks7896]

I was really challenged during the pandemic, because I went from going to church ⛪ every Sunday, bible study on Wednesday and having that connective fellowship, and when the doors closed it was like a culture shock. I'm third generation COGIC (Church of God in Christ) so I was excited and anticipating going back to church as usual. I think adjusting to having church differently was tough

[@LuxeHery]

This was absolutely timely. Since leaving my home church it’s been a struggle bc of all the things talked about and more. But I hope to find a solid church. Loved this episode. Thank you guys ❤️🙏🏾

[@angelslovelybraiders2366]

It make me wond up too!! That’s the prophet in you Jackie!!!

[@choonamizinga9415]

My home church here in Zambia 🇿🇲 Victory Bible Church ❣️ Bishop Cyrus All the pastors and reverends worship team and the youth fellowship we have Everything is amazing I love how they teach truth and point me to Jesus Also they are not afraid to speak truth(no matter how controversial it is) and to rebuke us when we are wrong Not forgetting they lead by example They live what they reach It's amazing There's love all around too I feel at home when am at church I'm always looking forward to go to church Not forgetting Apostle Joshua Selman I love how profound that man is in his sermons I've learnt so much transforming truth from there❤

[@staciegarcia7021]

👏👏👏 that explains why when I was about to get beaten and I stood up boldly they suddenly changed they minds and sat back down even tho they had the strength and the numbers to do so "something stopped me, even tho no one had ever stood up to us "

[@christinaazuma2680]

Yes, I agree so much about what you guys are saying. It bothers me so much too Jackie because people need to be delivered and healed.

[@ritjakozonguizi3077]

Jacky that scripture you share in Acts 9, got me in tears! Soo good! Man I love the church.

[@_Barberbaddie]

I like this!!! Mrs Perry you saying things that everyone thinks but doesn’t say especially on a public platform. And Mr Perry you are giving a solution and understanding. I like how Mrs Perry you brought up friends who are in the word. Cuz I’m sure a lot of us feel like “ i watch KZbin, i got friends, why do I need church.” It’s so real yall. Church is a whole entire topic that a lot of ppl struggle with but it’s still a place for communion, worship and fellowship for the body of Christ. Thanks 🫶🏾

[@kimberlyrose0671]

There was so much good stuff in this random convo! One thing I wanted to AMEN is that God will use people to help you get over people hurt . I was attending a PWC and God led me to pray for a woman at the alter. Afterward she told me that she hated Black people bc of her ex-husbands treatment of her. She knew God had led me to her bc of what I prayed. She was thankful to God that He used me, a stranger, to heal her from the burden of hate!😊

[@APlll]

Yes to Tony Evans! So good, he made me like church 😂 OCBF has what you all were talking about with good worship and great preaching

[@EvinNazya]

“If you don’t have time to get to the passage, then WHY ARE WE HERE” loooool literally.

[@comeclowe]

26:25 😮 oh my God! Thank You 🙏🏾

[@comeclowe]

I been knew.