A REAL LOOK AT GRAPHENE vs CERAMIC COATINGS + ArtDeShine Graphene Coating Reviewed!

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Hey guy's, just wanted to add a note here that the ArtDeShine graphene coating used in this video is now about two formulations old and according to the brand's reps and other users/reviews the current formula is much improved which I think is great to hear. New technology always has a learning curve and I'm appreciative of brands that take that leap to help further the detailing community and all the amazing products at our disposal.

[@gabrielpauloignacio9170]

This is the only detailing channel I know that performs tests and comparisons comprehensively and factors in every possible case scenario. From the user experience up to the proper curing time, real life tests under Aussie conditions, chemical resistance tests, multiple test panels with different layers and configurations, logical explanations and unbiased opinions, etc. and many more that other channels don't do. We really appreciate your hardwork, Sandro. We love you man, I'm your number 1 fan here in the PH. Thank you for this video.

[@eareeyesee3290]

I agree. This channel is my favorite out of all the many others.

[@bosoares]

Nice job, Sandro. Definitely made me happy I chose UK 3.0 to coat my car with a few months ago. I find that UK 3.0 topped with Gliss V2 is plenty slick and works great.

[@samster978]

how are you not more popular than some of the other detail channels!? Your comparisons are concise and on another level compared to more 'popular' channels such as Pan and Apex detailing

[@jayandran2007]

I been detailing cars for the past 12 years now. False marketing is the main issue here. Over hyped product strength and false promises lead to customer’s disappointment and lost trust. I have tested almost 50 different brands of ceramic coating throughout the years but to be honest non of it come close to what they describe. End of the day whatsoever technology that you use it’s not permanent solutions! The car owner need to take some responsibility to maintain their vehicle. As a Detailer you have to be sincere to your customers whenever you presenting the solutions.

[@emanuelestrada8320]

It will be interesting to see how the technology develops, if it's as good as CQuartz UK 3.0 from the start, imagine when graphene matures as SIO2 did, the coatings will be awesome

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Me too, and time always tells!

[@barrycook8116]

I am actually very disappointed in how this Graphene coating performed since UK has been out for a while now. It kind of tells me they still have a very long ways to go since it’s not even out performing UK. Since technology has changed a lot expected no excuses from Graphene type coating and my guess is they really didn’t do much in depth testing before releasing it. They need car craft to do their testing for them.

[@WaxMode]

Another masterpiece Sandro! Perfect visuals, concise conclusions based on observable factors, awesome editing to pull everything together for the viewers. Thanks for sharing your extensive testing and experience with these coatings, and packaging it all together so seamlessly so that we can observe exactly what you are. Your work is truly invaluable to the community.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Thank you, it’s really kind of you say and much appreciated!

[@qrtrscale]

WaxMode and this channel are the top two when it comes to this content 👏🏽

[@bryanpieper2333]

Great video Sandro. The only interest I’ve ever had with a graphene coating over a ceramic coating was because it is supposedly better with water spotting issues. As you and many other KZbinrs have shown, the claims are just not accurate at this time with any of the brands I have seen tested. I’ll continue to hold off until claims are proven accurate.

[@DavidC1]

ease of application is something i really need....i live in a very very very humid and hot environment in south florida...and even easy to apply ceramics flash very fast....so theres no way im touching this graphine.....ill happily stick with car pro cquarks uk 3.0....love the results.....love the gloss and hydrophobics....plus a brand that stands behind their product.

[@Jeff_Seely]

Well knowing that it is three times the cost of a known, easy to use, durable, and beautiful ceramic coating, I strain to see the value. 3.0 is on my friend's car and he absolutely loves it. And his paint work is quite nice. Thank you for another great and thorough comparison.

[@functionaldoc5054]

Sandro great review the best level headed real world opinion on the internet. Thanks for your great review.

[@groundcontrol6876]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: “graphene” coatings are just high end ceramic coatings with an RGO additive just so they can slap graphene on the label and milk the hell out of the hype it’s been on for quite some time. If tech giants like Panasonic have been having trouble with the technology in its solid form even with their advanced facilities and manufacturing processes, what makes you think the detailing industry could just put it in a bottle in liquid form and have it be stable and apt for such a niche automotive use? It just doesn’t add up. It’s funny, if you’re objective/skeptical about this people get mad at you and/or call you a hater. MARKETING 101 Edit: small spelling error

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

There’s always a lot of strong opinions around anything new, but I appreciate you sharing you’re thoughts which everyone should be able to do!

[@groundcontrol6876]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Yeah, regardless I’m gonna try out the new graphene coating from Adams. I’m already bored and wanna polish my car again as it’s been 1 yr since I polished and put UK3.0 on it and it’s still performing like day 1. I believe the Ethos and Adams coatings are the same as I think they’re both blended by B&B but only the manufacturers know that. The adams coating seems to be SLIGHTLY more hydrophobic than CQUARTZ and I just like trying new products.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Let me know how you go!

[@artdeshine7067]

You are right that reduced Graphene Oxide (rGO) is used as an additive in a silicone polymer or composite just as SiO2 or TiO2 is used the same way. These products are widely misunderstood as graphene, TiO2 or SiO2 based when really they are used as additives for enhancement of certain properties. Even more widely assumed is the coating is a "1 atom thick layer of graphene" which really isn't what Artdeshine is trying to make or market as that will not give us any beneficial function we need. That is what many electrical companies are doing as it gives them electrical conductivity and sensitivity. We need not that refinement of rGO or even pure graphene. And Artdeshine do know how to disperse rGO into polymeric matrixes. Artdeshine's Nano Graphene Coating is not termed ceramic because the percentages of SiO2 which the term "ceramic" came about is very low. Most of the components are silicone polymers that are cured to be softer and more flexible as compared to hard like you noticed in the applicator cloth. Hardness does not determine how durable or abrasion resistant the product can be (Artdeshine does make hard ceramic coatings too). Abrasion resistance mostly comes from how much friction is produced by the surface, more sleek less friction less chances of marring. More about why rGO is used in the product. It is a fact that rGO helps with anti-corrosion and in the polymeric matrix it has shown capabilities in IR transmission tests to lower IR absorbance. This is an indicator of lower thermal absorption which we know heat is a very strong catalyst in chemical reactions with contaminants that causes etching.

[@groundcontrol6876]

@@artdeshine7067 Thank you for your useful post :)

[@TheCarDetailingChannel]

I've been looking into Art Deshines line up of coatings for my Grand Cherokee. I'd get the whole meal deal with the Graphine, wheel coating, leather coating, and glass coating

[@doughope761]

Great test & review, thank you. I just did my first graphene, with Adam's Graphene Ceramic. It does flash very quickly like the ArtDeShine but it was not difficult to level out, even if it dried a bit. The gloss and slickness and hydrphobics are impressive, and if it's no better than a consumer-grade ceramic, that's ok by me as I picked it up for $69; not much of a premium over most ceramics. If it performs better, great.

[@HoosierDaddyDetailing]

Excellent information on testing as always. Thanks for sharing your insights.

[@jhonnybfmv]

If this product can be put side by side to something that cost 4 to 5 times less and not be a clear winner in most categories I dont get why anyone would buy it. Might as well spend those 280AU$ on a ceramic coating and get your moneys worth

[@tomasaro4910]

Had to check my box with Artdeshine as you said any instruction wasn’t in yours? In my box from Artdeshine I also had the copper Artdeshine Nano Graphene card, some stickers BUT also a instruction book how to apply the coating. In it the instruction was application guide, curing, usage/storage. The instruction was easy to understand and follow.

[@Tony_Seed]

Graphene coating is ceramic coating with a little bit of graphene powder mixed in to turn it dark in color but physically does nothing, your just getting the results of the ceramic coating, maybe they will get better over time, but the platelets don’t line up or do what their supposed to do at a nano level...yet

[@simplecardetailing6238]

Before I watch I’m so happy , I really do respect you and for me you my role model in this business.

[@7071t6]

Mate your the best Sandro, cant wait till we see just how it long lasts and when you test the 303 graphene review and tests? OMG almost $300.00 dollars for something which has no instructions from the manufacturer and not even on there own web page, is like totaly unprofessional, even the cheapest car care products out there like cheap as microfiber towels and its manufacturers has details of how to wash them properly,. :) Sandro quick question mate car p[ro's reset car shampoo does it have restoring wax's built into it, so that if you have a coating no matte what it is like ceramic SIO2 based or any hybrid wax or nano tech it helps bring it back when you use it right, at least that's what the web page about the products states?

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Thanks, but no, Reset has no waxes or sealants in it, what it is is an intensive but pure car wash soap that helps strip off contamination that can inhibit a coatings performance.

[@e.jackson250]

Because there doesn't seem to be any advantage to the artdeshine graphene coating, why would anyone in their right mind dish out $280 dollars for this product? Not me for sure!

[@artdeshinepoland1191]

Our comments: 1) we always recommend apply two layers 2) about application : we got better results with this way of application : apply - buff dry towel (not damp towel like a first buff)- buff damp towel - buff dry towel 3)about water spots: your test is extreme and are not in the world any coatings that can resist stains like yours. But water spots which we have problem in classic daily car, than ADS NGC offer a lot of % better effect like ceramic coat, see our test: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4eXgH5od8Stf5I 4) you use first version NGC , actually version i better to apply and better chemical resist [sorry about my English ]

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Thanks for sharing and I think it would be great to put those recommendations and instructions in the box to guide the user to the best possible results, but like I mentioned in the video I did several diverse tests off camera before making the video which is what I based my conclusions on.

[@artdeshinepoland1191]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing NGC is coating dedicated to acredited instalers and all acredited installers everyone should be trained in application and theory , and they no need instructions in box but in actually version v2 in box ADS added application brochure and product characteristics .

[@danniecarmona2509]

I checked the price of the Graphene compared to ceramics and this Graphene is way overpriced. Adams Graphene is probably just as good but about a quarter the price

[@MikeGDetailing]

Thanks for the video. Your results chemically line up with my testing of SPS graphene over the course of a year against other ceramics I clouding Cquartz UK 3.0. The initial performance is great but just as you noted once that shield is pierced it degrades rather quickly. We shall share if graphene has the staging power or if it will just be a fad.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Thanks Mike, I appreciate you sharing you’re own experience and results as well!

[@nickstarz9316]

I agree you cant go wrong with the ck . Bang for buck is just where it will be at for some people unless your a pro.

[@moesif]

BIG YES! graphene aka biggest fake news to date😂🙏

[@albertstef9350]

HI Sandro. Good review mate. You are years ahead the other in the industry. At least Forensic and Pan looks like kid garden kids compare to you. I am a great fan of yours advices and technique. Even so the test might be a bit unfair as Cquartz is already at version 3 which means has great improvement and Artdeshine is a bit younger and only version 1 if i am not wrong. As well, I did not thick Artdeshine was projected as product to be left unwashed for a month. Would be fair to compare same version of the products. I am afraid you will not like me anymore when I say that your video might impact the development of the graphene as you criticise the product, the sale will drop and will be a lack of development. We should all participate to encourage the product especially for Artdeshine which I have seen is making efforts to deliver beter products. Personally I will buy their product and send them the feedback so the next version will be beter. Is a win win for all of us. Give a fair chance to other product not only Carpro. As well you seems to be revenging for the price you bought and maybe no free item and made a video against it. Influencers are all the same

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Everyone should be able to voice their opinion and as long as the comments are respectful I’m happy for you to voice yours and I’m certainly not going to start disliking you because we have potentially diverse view points. There’s no possible set of tests I could do that wouldn’t make everyone happy, try making and posting a video yourself and you will see that when some people don’t like the results they then like to dismiss or question your process or even integrity. Just say Artdeshine did amazingly well in this review, would you have had the same reaction and questioned the testing methods the same way? If you’re being honest the answer is no. It would be so much easier for me to do some half arsed testing and just jump on board, but is that what you really want? And is that why you watch my videos? I understand that you’re a fan of Artdeshine and I saw some great performances and potential there. Yes the testing was extreme, but it was equally extreme for all the coatings. I’m a fan of new detailing technology, but if you just praise and accept what your told about a newer technology rather than test it out and question it for yourself, that helps no one and actually hurts it in the long run.

[@albertstef9350]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Indeed I am a fan of ADS and to a fairness. If is not much to ask maybe you can repeat the test when they release the improved version of the product ? I am a fan as well of new technology and I am keen for development and graphene have a great potential to use it for the future.

[@harrym.3703]

what . Co UK ist better in Video and you buy it für 60 euro. Aert de Shine is toooooooooooooor expensive

[@stardoll11mega]

Regarding graphine vs ceramic you have chosen for test the most expencive graphine please use glassparency or adams graphine bouth maching ceramic coat price at list in USA.

[@imdeplorable2241]

This is the best, most honest description of these graphene coatings that I have seen to date. For that reason, I have subscribed. So, my decision? First, I will not be buying Artedeshine due to its application difficulty. I also feel that it is overpriced. Second, until the graphene coatings industry improves their delivery medium, I will not be using any of their products. I'll just have to wait for the chemists to figure it all out. This honest detailer helped me make those decisions. Thank you, sir. Well done.👍

[@marcusbarnes5929]

Have you tried NXTZEN professional graphene ceramic coating? It's made in Australia..

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

No I haven’t and I didn’t know it was made here!

[@asalouros]

Sandro, great video. Excellent comparison. If you haven't seen it yet check out Chicago Auto Pro's in depth review on the technology and chemistry of graphene coatings. Confirms everything you have said. Interesting stuff.

[@CornettoGospel]

Great video as always Sandro. I don’t know how an RRP of $280 can be justified based on your results, but I guess that’s what “boutique” brands do - nice packaging, slick marketing, large price tag!

[@GBBangin]

I believe the biggest difference in expectations between the graphene ceramic coatings and the previous SiO2 coatings is that the graphene ceramic coatings are supposed to retain less dust due to its anti-static properties and to keep the car's paint / surfaces at a cooler temperature, which would obviously be better to protect cars in hotter climates. The hydrophobic qualities and gloss factor are essentially the same. I've used Adam's Graphene Spray coating and Adam's Ceramic Boost spray coating, and performance wise they are nearly identical. Just like with any other detailing job, it's more about the prep work with the wash, decontamination, clay bar, and paint correction prior to applying the coating.

[@Autofinezja]

Tricky application but outstanding results. Uncommonly slick - can confirm. Art De Shine looks like a performance coating to me but we will keep an eye on it .Love both products

[@paulgyro]

1) The Artdeshine NGC is a single layer coating system. A second layer will not stick. 2) Artdeshine provide a level that is a life saver! 3) Insider trick is you can prime your application pad or the paint with the Artdeshine Graphene Detailers for a much easier application. Key here is a light priming with the detailer. NOTE: Point 1 and 2 are public info and provided by Artdeshine. #3 is insider. Also remember you are comparing a flagship professional coating to a customer level. Pro coatings are normally much less forgiving in the installs.

[@RedPillAlways]

Graphene hasn't been out that long in the US.. I Used NanoBond Diamond ceramic hard coat 2x as a base and well rounded Ceramic spray toppers and that does real good in protection and water beading.. now I have seen some graphene sprays hit the market not too long ago like 303 products graphene spring and Adams graphene Coating in spray.. but for me that technology is too new and to unproven for me.. I mean it is graphene oxide which uses distillates to help it bond to a coating.. but does it really do that much more protection in water beading then I high concentrate SiO2 coating like NanoBond or that quartz ceramic coating he's using.. I'm not so sure. Now I'm sure giving time that grabbing sprays will advance and maybe come much better than ceramics and much more durable for longer-lasting effects.. but for me it's just too new.. I do not go off buzzwords I go off Proven real world working products.. that is funny though that he did that with the cloth cuz I did the same exact thing with the NanoBond and another High concentrate SiO2 coating I was trying.. The NanoBond won coming out rock hard on the applicator cloth

[@KevinBoutin]

I sincerely appreciate your commentary and thorough review here. I know graphene is not ready yet and I am happy that we can find your reliable and insightful take on it. People are just impatient in general and it's truly difficult to know, when the next graphene-oxide coating releases, if it's matured and actually superior.

[@chadj8349]

I agree with you the technology is just not there yet. True graphene is very expensive and is only one atom thick. These new products are (in my opinion)are graphene oxide mixed with a carrier or transfer solution. So basically a ceramic coating with some graphene oxide mixed in.

[@williambrewer855]

You probably watched Chicago auto pros

[@chadj8349]

@@williambrewer855 I watched that one as well as several others including ethos, adams and ammo nyc. Also the typical google search. What’s your opinion on graphene?

[@artdeshine7067]

You are right that reduced Graphene Oxide (rGO) is used as an additive in a silicone polymer or composite just as SiO2 or TiO2 is used the same way. These products are widely misunderstood as graphene, TiO2 or SiO2 based when really they are used as additives for enhancement of certain properties. Even more widely assumed is the coating is a "1 atom thick layer of graphene" which really isn't what Artdeshine is trying to make or market as that will not give us any beneficial function we need. That is what many electrical companies are doing as it gives them electrical conductivity and sensitivity. We need not that refinement of rGO or even pure graphene. And Artdeshine do know how to disperse rGO into polymeric matrixes. Artdeshine's Nano Graphene Coating is not termed ceramic because the percentages of SiO2 which the term "ceramic" came about is very low. Most of the components are silicone polymers that are cured to be softer and more flexible as compared to hard like you noticed in the applicator cloth. Hardness does not determine how durable or abrasion resistant the product can be (Artdeshine does make hard ceramic coatings too). Abrasion resistance mostly comes from how much friction is produced by the surface, more sleek less friction less chances of marring. More about why rGO is used in the product. It is a fact that rGO helps with anti-corrosion and in the polymeric matrix it has shown capabilities in IR transmission tests to lower IR absorbance. This is an indicator of lower thermal absorption which we know heat is a very strong catalyst in chemical reactions with contaminants that causes etching.

[@yowiesan]

Absolute beast of a video Sandro! That ending, Nv Pro doing its magic! Hurry up Melbourne and open your borders so I can come do a NV certified class with you Sandro!

[@stephenbissett3280]

Really good video. I have been looking at the NV EVO hybrid coating and it also uses graphene but it gets so many good reviews.

[@brandonkoke5158]

Fantastic footage. Very solid review...very impressed.

[@xenomorph800]

Does the graphene coating protect against scratches etc aswell?

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

It can certainly help in mitigating scratches like almost all paint protection products but it won’t eliminate them.

[@MrKennyanders]

We need a coating that can be done in the driveway without a garage

[@MuahMan]

It's kind of lame that neither of them really helped prevent water marks. Still have to wash it just much as much as a regular wax or sealant. Mind as well stick with the spray-on coatings.

[@brentthedetailman2228]

you should try the v3 nano graphene from artdeshine.. I love it

[@livinthedublife]

Hey Sandro is Carpro gliss v2 even worth applying over 2 coats of cquartz 3.0?

[@craig.encinitas]

For me, yes. I parked unknowingly next to sprinklers. The water spots baked onto the side of the car facing west in the hot summer sun. The dried spots washed right off with CarPro reset and a soft wash mit. Gliss totally worth it.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

I’m still yet to try Gliss V2 ... I know I need to get around to it!

[@HyperSlayer72]

Hello Sandro, super glad to see you got your comment replies back. That was thousands of comments. Got a few questions if you don't mind. 1 - From my research NV Snow is the only wash I know of that is ph neutral with no gloss enhancers or wax. Its currently out of stock in the usa. Do know of any alternatives? 2 - My car is now ceramic coated (cquartz) and i'm considering using a ceramic infused wash. The main thing going through my mind is whether using a ceramic wash on my glass (coated with nv glass ceramic) could mask the effectiveness of my glass coating. What do you opt for currently with maintaining ceramic coatings ( ph neutral washes, carpro reload, carpro reset, ect) 3 - After loosing my mind until 11pm cleaning interior glass, I generally feel that compared to nv clarity and a few other streak free cleaners nothing removes residue better than pure IPA. Have you had the same experience?

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Thanks and my older comments are gone for good but I can still make new comments moving forward. CarPro Reset has no enhancement additives and it’s also great maintenance wash for coated cars. Ideally it’s really best to stick to pure car wash soaps as hydrophobic additive ones can mask the superior behaviour of your various coatings. I tend to use Nv Boost a lot and it really seems to play well with the paint and glass coatings with no issue but Elixir could also be another good option. Cloths are also extremely important when cleaning glass, to make sure they are super clean and only used for glass but I personally have great success with Clarity and Eraser, but it you feel a straight IPA solution works best for you I’d just stick with it!

[@johng753]

In the USA it will cost you $220 USD to purchase ArtDeShine nano Graphene coating , including freight cost from Canada. CQUK will cost you $55 and is frequently discounted as low as $41.25. So ArtDeShine is at least 400% more expensive than CQUK. ArtDeShine claims this product has a high resistance to water spotting. Thanks to Sadro’s excellent comparison testing we know this product does not deliver on its claim. Case closed.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

That’s makes it more expensive in the USA which is really surprising as we usually pay more for products in Oz, but UK 3.0 is about $90 AUD but it comes in a kit with applicator, cloths and Reload.

[@indyrock8148]

That little bottle of expensive liquid. Absolutely guaranteed I would knock it over and spill half or my wife would put it somewhere undiscovered for the next 2 years.

[@chadrandolph9874]

Hey Sandro! Graphene someday may be the King of the hill....but not today! 😎 Like you said, some manufacturers are rushing to get a product out there that has the buzz word Graphene on it. That’s a label and level that has to be backed up with ‘High End’ results to withstand the scrutiny that YOU will put it through. 😂 If they would have came out and said this product was a ‘top of the line’ si02 coating it still wouldn’t have took top shelf. 🤔 1) Anything NV 2) Anything CarPro 3) Does it matter...😁 Great video Sandro! Appreciate you and your thorough knowledge of all things detailed 💯💯 Good day mate!

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Thanks Chad!

[@stitaniumrumble7171]

Graphene will definitely be the next hype marketing product. Adams is advertising their’s heavily. 303 also came out with a spray on, wipe off, graphene coating and it’s already sold out. Thanks for the hard work Sandro! Guess we should really pay attention when CarPro, Gyeon and Gtechniq start pumping graphene products. A Gtechniq higher up is part of a detailing Facebook group I’m in and he claims they’ve tried messing with graphene but unable to produce anything better than what they offer.

[@stitaniumrumble7171]

@El Stormbringer honestly Sandro is the only detailer I’ve watched on KZbin that I trust to review products. I watched that Apex detail video and when I saw him apply the spray to a car that was already fully corrected and coated I shut that shit off.

[@lonefgc4508]

@El Stormbringer to be fair, that was the Zymol graphene spray that failed after the first wash test. Brian’s review of the 303 graphene spray received a passing grade though.

[@TheAverageJoeX]

@El Stormbringer that wasn't the 303 brand graphene spray coating, it was the zymol brand.

[@macallanvintage]

One of em is actually a China-made coating and repackaged elsewhere in Asia.

[@FrankGutowski-ls8jt]

Buy some graphite lock lubricant in a hardware store. Spread the powder on a clean glass surface. Use another piece of glass or razor blade to really force it on. See if it’s hydrophobic compared to untreated glass.

[@albertstef9350]

This is old news. You are way behind times. They have version 3 now which is way better than all other brands which copied from Alfred.

[@nasdoc1]

Wow man! Your comparisons and tests are at another level. Amazing!

[@gqneon]

This was the first real side by side review I came to and you did a fantastic job. Thanks for being so neutral and thorough!

[@on-site4094]

I believe Graphene coatings are @ an infancy stage I'll wait

[@rajivkishore]

Thank you for the video Sandro and yes I too emailed you asking your opinion on the graphene coating trend couple months back. I guess they are still not upto the mark from the results in this video. Also I really appreciate you compared it with Cquartz as it's my favorite coating for its value and performance.

[@stefaanC]

I dont understand you say there are no instructions how to use, the instructions of the ardeshine graphene coatings are more than 6 months on line for download see link : www.artdeshine.co/support. it a great product , i used first the leveling coating and a day later the graphene coating and i t works great , i am not a proffesional detailer , but i whant the best for my cars and far so is this the best product i ever hat . it makes your paint trim chrome super slick ! only how long it last i dont know time wil tell .

[@peterholmes2089]

Thanks for your efforts on testing these for us and honest opinions.

[@nicorallysport]

Hello sandro. Is the harder the applicator in Sweden, the stronger the coating ?. Because I tested CQuartz lite Vs a new cheap amazon coating 2020 (19.99eur or 33 $ aud for 50ml ~1,7oz), the fantastic xml superior crystal ceramic & Graphene Coating (9H +). Yet cheap but the suede with the fantastic xml coating is hard as wood! 😱😮😮😮, compare to CQuartz lite which already had very hard Sweden, the xml is a crazy thing !. It must be very concentrated in Sio2?!(I don't think it is very concentrated in graphene because the liquid is not very dark). It announces a duration of 180 days and more, but I think it will go well beyond. It would be more like 180 washes, maybe a mistake on Amazon. With a chemical resistance test (meguiar's apc, meguiar's super degreaser, ipa, etc.) it beat CQuartz lite and even CQuartz lite + gliss! 🤔. Although I prefer real stress testing, letting time do its job. Just one layer makes good sheeting and beading while 2 layers makes excellent beading. It would be nice if you gave it a try to see what you think. Otherwise, do you think graphene which is supposed to be magic and more of a commercial thing than anything compared to ceramic coatings? Thank you in advance

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

That’s quite interesting and thanks for sharing! There’s a lot of factors that go into creating a good ceramic coating and harness is definitely one of them but there’s always a lot of other things I look for like gloss, saturation, hydrophobicity, chemical and environmental resistance and very important to me is the application and user experience. I think time will tell whether graphene is going to be better than what we currently have, but it’s also important to note that ceramic coatings are also going to get better so it will be interesting!

[@nicorallysport]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing I noticed it darkened the paint well and a nice shine! For the price it looks good.

[@mitchellpaterson7062]

@ car craft auto detailing Have you considered re-visiting this coating as this was the v1 artdeshine and they have improved A lot now with V2 and The newly released V3 also now there is an Australian distributor with a lot more reasonable price 50 ml bottle for only $220 aud

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Yes I’d be happy to revisit it, there’s a lot of new ceramic/graphene coatings I’ve got on my list to try and I’m happy to add them to the list and give the newer versions a go in due time.

[@mitchellpaterson7062]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing i’m going to test out the new V3 on a brand-new Kia this weekend hopefully it is good and lives up to its expectations

[@mitchellpaterson7062]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Just thought I would update you on the ART DESHINE V3 nano graphene coating . Wow is it a breeze to apply I don’t know how they did it as it is like baby oil in the bottle it is basically nearly temperature and humidity independent and very forgiving in terms of leaving high spots will wipe down a long time after if you miss one and it feels smoother than a baby‘s bottom looks amazing as well now just to wait to see the long-term testing cheers Mitch

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Fantastic to hear mate, I’m glad it all went well!

[@mitchellpaterson7062]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing thanks I was thinking you will have to make a new slickless test for this coating catch a gecko and see if it can run across the bonnet lol 😂

[@sunmode3205]

Sandro, this is the best comparison video between graphene and ceramic based coatings with great background music.

[@ldtriton]

Background music was 💯

[@peterjurenovskis5933]

I really enjoyed the information and comparison you provided. It seems that everyone is testing their coatings, whether it be graphene or ceramic, based on gloss enhancement, chemical resistance and of course ease of use. Part of the benefits touted by these products is the resistance to swirls and light scratches. Has anyone devised a test for this? It would be great to add to the testing process when comparing products, but I’ve never seen anyone do this. Keep up the top notch work!

[@naelmeri3727]

Hello there Sandro, first I want to tell you how much I love your videos. Second, can I get a recommendation on a good water spot remover? Can you please make a video? Thanks and I hope you and the family stay safe and healthy.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

I appreciate it mate and hope you and your family are also doing well! I’ll try and do a video on it in the future, but the one I used in the video is great, and CarPro also updated the formula of Spotless recently and it also seems to work so much better.

[@saulmtz7309]

Theres a popular ceramic coating called avalonking, have you considered looking into that product?

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

It’s not sold here locally

[@rideinstyl]

Thanks for the detailed information. Why do I know graphene has much more flash time and easy spreading as compared to ceramic coatings?

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

I think it’s just a newer ingredient that still needs more development to get those things right.

[@sergeyrudnitskiy7579]

Great thanks for time, own products, samples and the great job! Nice to see the result Sandro and have the correct information about the product and comparison!

[@7071t6]

Sandro mate IMHO till a SAE/or ASTM standard is applied to all car and transport clear / commercial paint sealants is applied you can only rely on people such as yourself doing these fantastic reviews and tests , real world tests showing what and how good or bad the products tested full stop, theres SAE/ASTM tests for oil/coolants and other products to make them up to a standard that every oil manufacturer has to meet to achieve various ratings for those products, but nothing for the car detailing or care care products around the world, i have only found one products which CLAIMS its real good and used by aircraft manufacturers to help seal the aircraft paint, which is permaguard, yet perma guard and mercedes AU own web page about the products shows no ASTM approvals or tests to make sure its approval for automotive paints? heres permaguard own web page and no ASTM no listed at all, no CASR approval no and i used to work for the aircraft / aerospace industry and i can say this, unless theses a CASR approval number which you can easily check by going online or even calling CASA who is the australian governing body for everything airworthiness for running a aircraft large or small in australia, but nope i could not find any ASTM or CASR approval for permaguard, its not to say that the products is not good in fact the opposite, its like anything as long has it saves money for the operators and will not affect the OEM top coat of the paints used in aircraft manufacture and maintenance of those painted parts then its up to the owners of those aircraft to make a decision to use it or not to use it? Basically as long as the company adheres to the CASR 145 plan for maintenance and get an approval, then its really saying that you can use or sell your products for the use specified ie: Your claim is that it will protect the OEM painted surfaces of aircraft paints currently used in various aircraft manufacturers paints and sealants, ie: clear coats on OEM Aircraft paint that it basically? EG: PPG Aircraft paints are specialised paints due to the nature of aircraft aluminum used in the manufacturing of aircraft AIRBUS,Boeing and Other Manufacturers of military aircraft etc etc. :)🏎🏎🏎✌👍👌🙌😊

[@CandyflossCottonCandy]

27:53 sheeting so good.

[@larryisaac8988]

Comparing Apex Metal Oxide vs. System X Max

[@mattbonnell7023]

Your reviews are second to none. Keep up the great work.

[@Rolls87]

Any feedback on NXTZEN Graphene Pro vs Opti Coat plus? I’ve been quoted both and the nxtzen is about $140AUD more. Worth it?

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Unfortunately I don’t have any feedback to offer

[@Rolls87]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing thanks for the quick reply and your honesty!

[@Mr7141983]

Look like the no-coating line looks better than the other with coating.

[@xebid077]

Hello. I am new to car detailing world and want to enter it and start a new venture. Can you please recommend with which brand should i be associated with? I have picked a few. G Techniq/Gyeon/Modesta/Nasiol. Let me know others as well. Also, what are brands like turtle wax, Adams,303? Do they only sell wax and sprays or do they have complete coating ranges as well? Please do reply.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

There’s really no right or wrong choice, just what appeals to you, what’s available to you and best suits your budget and needs. I’m not completely sure about everything those brands offer with coatings but I’m sure if you do a little research the info is there. My advise is don’t get too caught up on brands and products, but focus more on a business plan, marketing strategy, customer service and practicing your craft to build and improve your skill level.

[@thomasemerson7257]

nice... and I like the tune at the 16:40 mark...

[@refinedcardetailing]

Love your work Sandro and have watched all your reviews just about. Did you happen to get your product of artdeshine graphene from ZAS? They have lost their supplier role for artdeshine, the new formula of Artdeshine NGC is $220 for 50ml and has very very in depth application information and is not a consumer base bought product its 'professional only use'

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Thanks and that sounds like a great improvement on both price and kit!

[@refinedcardetailing]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing most definately, the new formula is a lot less grabby on application aswell, the formula you have used is reccomended to use the levelling solution with as this new formula it isnt required and levels out quite nicely. Itd cool to get your thoughts on the newer formula at some point :)

[@coolwrld302]

I certainly agree that the graphene side did not really stop water spotting. If you freeze the video and look at the dry panel after the pre-soak at 10:18 and look where the top spot lights are on the panel on each side there is definitely still significant water spots. Then if you freeze the video and look at the dried panel again at 10:50 after the contact wash in the same 2 spot light areas there appears to be significantly less spots remaining on the graphene side than on the ceramic side.

[@superiorautodetailing]

What brand water spot remover was that? You said it's good for coatings... but still acid based.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Nv Car care Shift

[@Dortch3]

Sandro, thank you for your time, effort and candor here...your industry conclusions are spot on.

[@arnenuggat]

Is this version of the ArtDeshine V3 ? Or is it an earlier version, so the V3 is better ?

[@jmirsp4z]

just got home from coating my 205 gti at workplace on a weekend... i guess it's time to watch more detailing videos :D

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Love the little Peugeot hot hatch, legendary car, can’t remember the last time I saw one!

[@jmirsp4z]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing mine is a '89 1,6... all original except for some weird 90's alarm system left by the previous owner.. wanted one since i was about 14 when i first saw some group b rally videos.. about 15 years later i finally got to buy one..definitely a keeper..

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Yes keep it, they are so rare and iconic!

[@jmirsp4z]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing very much planning to.. living in Finland i only drive it in summer... as a daily driver i use a honda beat all year round :D

[@gambietti]

Fantastic review Sandro. I have had a lot of clients request Adams graphene for their cars. At about $80 it is a good price point and results in gloss, hydrophobic abilities and slickness, it is hard to beat. I would love you to test it. Thanks!

[@ntartaris]

Well done, yet again, Sandro. You're the only detail reviewer that I can trust, that doesn't bow to promo code providing commission getting, nor afraid of telling people the way a product is and fuck the manufacturer's feelings. Having said that, I don't know your background or affiliation to Waxit, but I notice there seem to be a bit of Nv product promo here and in many other of your videos, and some footage I've seen of you seems to be done at the Waxit premises (correct me if I'm completely wrong here). So I feel there is a little bit of vested interest there. Having said that, I do see the Nv range as bloody brilliant and haven't been able to fault their products. Thanks again, for an informative video, mate.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Thanks, and discuss my detailing journey and relationship with waxit in the tour of the shop video below if you’re interested kzbin.info/www/bejne/g33daZWFj7CSd6c

[@ntartaris]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Thank you mate, and that was an awesome and humbling video where you open up to your followers. I wish you nothing but success, Sandro. Like you, I've used Waxit for many years and can't wait until Melbourne is opened up so I can drive there and pick stuff up, instead of getting it delivered! In fact I just got 4L of Snow+ delivered today. Looking forward to your next videos mate.

[@DavidC1]

after 2 years surely you will want to top up gloss.....so whats the point lol

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Yes! That’s something I’ve mentioned quite a lot in past videos that even if a coating can technically last 5yrs and beyond, the chance of the paint looking even remotely as good as it did on day one is extremely rare unless it’s a garaged weekender - in which case I’ve had 2yr ceramic coatings last 5yrs in those more forgiving situations.

[@DavidC1]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing bingo

[@paulgyro]

Say, what type of test panel are you using in the video?

[@falcon0351]

So in the end Sandro after a thorough going over with that chemical-the NV was unfazed and the ADS was totally gone!! I think it’s time you tried ADS ‘s V111 ..easier to apply with the same if not better slickness,and appearance.Nice work Sandro.Thankyou

[@1996Che]

Hey Sandro, can you do a video on Kisho Coatings

[@thephantomarse8525]

Wow great level of detail in your tests and its so nice to get an unbiased review Just subscribed 👍

[@1kontrabida]

Was looking for more info on Artdeshine and thanks for doing some side by side comparison...Im a skeptic on the graphene tech and ceramic coating ive also been doing some testing for a couple of years now mainly for cars being daily driven and never see a garage, ive used low to high priced ceramic coating along side graphene coating, ceramic spray coating and NV Jet + Boost on the other panel and so far the ceramic coating although still there but barely and adams graphene coating and ceramic spray coating are good about 70% intact and not surprisingly NV Jet +boost were keeping up with the ceramic coatings after 10 months of application. And the main culprit of the degradation is the early am morning dew + morning sun why? because ceramic does not like water and the sun this is where Graphene and other ceramics that have titanium dioxide really shines out. Hence Im as slowly transitioning to the NV care care flat form and graphene tech.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Thanks for sharing you personal experience here, appreciate it mate!

[@1kontrabida]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing No bradah thank you for sharing and comparing different products, The versatility of NV care and resiliency is what makes it unique besides the ease of use and i agree a little product on the pad will not only work well and streak free. I also applied for the pro level coating and cant wait for the announcement on when it will be out here in the US.

[@autoinfinitydetailing8382]

Great video... Keep up the good work sir 👍

[@뿌에에에엑]

Thank you for your high quality reviews. One question regarding art de shine nano graphene. If buffing is performed after applying the coating, stains and residues will not be removed from the entire application surface. Buffing with very high force will remove the stain One thing I noticed in your video was to buff it right away with a slightly damp towel. Will this help remove stains and debris? I am wondering if there is any adverse effect on the coating layer.

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Ideally you shouldn’t have to use water or a damp cloth to level down or wipe a coating as it may reduce it longevity, but without a damp cloths it’s just too difficult and potentially more aggressive on the paint to level this coating down, but water should help remove any streaks.

[@뿌에에에엑]

@@CarCraftAutoDetailing thanks a lot, have a nice day

[@waynedharsan5288]

There’s the problem at 9:15 you can clearly see you didn’t level out the Graphene as the glide marks are very visible . By not levelling out you don’t set up a proper mesh could be why you got all those water spots . All the black cars we do never have water spotting .

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

It sounds like you’re having success with this coating which is great, and I understand based on a couple of comments that you don’t like how it performed or how I evaluated it in this video - which is also fine! My testing was thorough, it was many many tests that I worked very hard to produce and went well beyond the footage of this video. I hope you understand that I’m not new to coatings - ceramic or graphene - with ten years plus experience with coatings, I do this for a living and I stand by my results, which I hope you can at least respect, rather than just try to pick apart, but that’s also your choice 🙂

[@allandekoning4734]

As always, best in the business Sandro! True honest results 👍🏼

[@HorsepowerAddiction]

Great video. Nice tests. I have Mayvinci C16 ceramic coating on the side panels of my car AMG E55K for 2 years now. I had Carpro Quarts UK 3 on the bonnet, roof and boot. The Quarts lasted 8 months. The Mayvinci is still performing like day 1. I now have Ethos Graphene Matrix Coating on the bonnet, roof and boot. Like your test the Graphene seems to be behaving better with the water than the Quarts as it's early days. The graphene appears to be performing similar to my Mayvinci coat but seems a little better than than the Mayvinci in the beading and I had no water spots after rain. The rain was mixed with ash as we had back burning. The Mayvinci cost me 500 aud dollars. The Graphene 160 AUD. I did it this way to see which product outlasts each other as the Graphene is supposed to last for five years and the Mayvinci 3 years. Time consuming test but it will tell the truth.

[@qrtrscale]

Very good, glad you’ve exposed the water spot performance between these two. Thanks Sandro, another worthy vid! You and others are helping these manufacturers to recognize the consumer worth of their products, or better, to improve their products further to match the premium price.

[@qrtrscale]

Also ... great sound track!

[@atalayo3o0o]

That very last treatment and wash off was very confusing: one kept the water on for a very long time, or repelled water very slowly(ceramic i presume), one rejected instantly... hmmmm... i don't know what to choose after seeing that.

[@jackbaldwin2135]

Can you please use System X ceramic coating? I’ve got to do a two day course to be able to use their stuff and want to know if it’ll be worth doing or I’m wasting my $2500 and two days of my time ?

[@Steathl]

Hey mate, me again! I suggest you try ethos graphene coating. Big hype around! And it's like $100 usd. I have seen videos but I have not tried it. Same with 303 graphene

[@CarCraftAutoDetailing]

Ethos isn’t available to me in Australia, they actually reached out to me months ago and said they would send me a sample but never did, 303 graphene also isn’t in Australia yet.

[@HorsepowerAddiction]

I have the Ethos Graphene Matrix Coating. Currently I have Mayvinci C16 ceramic coating on the side panels of my car AMG E55K for 2 years now. I had Carpro Quarts UK 3 on the bonnet, roof and boot. The Quarts lasted 8 months. The Mayvinci is still performing like day 1. I now have Ethos Graphene Matrix Coating on the bonnet, roof and boot. Like the test in this video the Graphene seems to be behaving better with the water than the Quarts as it's early days. The graphene appears to be performing similar to my Mayvinci coat but seems a little better than than the Mayvinci in the beading and I had no water spots after rain. The rain was mixed with ash as we had back burning. The Mayvinci cost me 500 aud dollars. The Graphene 160 AUD. I bought it from the US. Application of the Ethos was easy. I did it this way to see which product outlasts each other as the Graphene is supposed to last for five years and the Mayvinci 3 years. Time consuming test but it will tell the truth. The Graphene is great so far but time is the factor.

[@spartan7686]

Chicago Auto Pros reviewed Ethos.... tldr: very underwhelming