A second look at EA'S WRC

#simracing #easportswrc #rallying
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Well, as promised, I will find out weather or not EA's WRC has improved since i reviewed it in December

[@sbsimulators6913]

Hey everyone Just leaving a comment to let you all know that codemasters have released version 1.7.0 of this game. I can happily say that my stuttering performance is now at a minimul for me. Playing this on medium graphics with fps cap set 120 and texture filtering set to performance in Nvidia control panel seems to be working for me.

[@FOREST10PL]

There were no handling/FFB changes. Anything you feel is placebo.

[@sbsimulators6913]

Somebody mentioned in the comments that it might be a few updates to the firmware of my Moza wheelbase which could have been why I was feeling a difference. Still I like the game more then I did at launch

[@FOREST10PL]

​@@sbsimulators6913 hey, that's great! I was not bashing you at all btw. I too thought the game was handling weird at launch but there was a bug that turned on assist even if you had them disabled. This massively affected the handling.

[@samwch16992]

I just went and did the same Vitova stage + same Puma Rally 1 car as yours and I don't have any stuttering. I already have my FPS limited in Nvidia control panel long ago due to my freesync monitor so maybe that's why I didn't have stuttering issues. I did turn down the car reflection and mirror settings down to medium and have DLSS on at quality with 60 sharpness.

[@sbsimulators6913]

Might be just me then so. Just for further context. I'm on a GTX 1660TI GPU along with an AMD ryzen 7 cou. I'll keep on tweaking it until the stuttering is resolved for me

[@samwch16992]

@@sbsimulators6913I'm on a RTX 2070 Super GPU with a Ryzen 5 3600. I also tweaked my settings further after reading suggestions online. Anti aliasing at High, DLSS on Quality with sharpness at 60, Car reflection and Mirrors at medium as before. Shadows at medium. Crowds at medium, Dynamic objects to High or below, The rest on Ultra/High depending on your available resources. And it goes without saying I have the FPS limited inside Nvidia control panel. Hope you can get your stuttering fixed.

[@sbsimulators6913]

@@samwch16992 Thanks Sam, I appreciate that. I really want to like this game in its current state. But until I can resolve the stuttering it's really hard to do so. I'll try your settings on it and see if that will work

[@samwch16992]

@@sbsimulators6913Glad I could help. My experience with EA WRC has been decent so far. I was there at the beginning when the game launches as I had Xbox PC game pass active and I have 5 hours trial of the then newly released EA WRC. I had owned Dirt Rally and 2.0 as well as WRC 7 9 10 and Generations so I have pretty high expectations for this game, and as we know it's release state is pretty crappy. While my stutter is not as bad as the ones I've seen others had it's still enough to dissuade me from getting the game. Then in the recent Steam Spring Sale, the game is on 60% discount, so I was tempted and gave in. I bought it but didn't put much time in it because I was busy with another game (Cyberpunk 2077) until now. I ran it with all settings at high at first, the game runs far better than my experience in the launch days but it's not as smooth as I liked it. Now after tweaking the settings, it's still not 100% buttery smooth, but is playable 98% of the time. I did some stages in Monte Carlo, Japan, Central Europe, Oceania, Portugal, Italy and the game is very playable. While the game doesn't look that great compared to Dirt Rally 2.0, which is the benchmark of modern rally games. It beats the WRC games by KT Racing hands down in terms of the sound department. The car modelling is also far better compared to KT racing's WRC games. Take a look at the cars in WRC Generation in the showroom, the lighting is bad and the model looks flat, especially the older WRC cars like the Subaru Impreza.

[@Shinobi117]

Question. Does your degree of rotation match your moza wheel? I have the r5 and despite calibration and software setting to 540 the game only gives me 200 in the degrees of rotation. So it feels weird because the animation doesn’t match my wheel. I know you play without the in game wheel but figured I’d ask. Maybe it’s a bug?

[@sbsimulators6913]

I've raced in normal cockpit view with the wheel in front of me a few times, but I don't recall experiencing that on my version of WRC

[@Shinobi117]

@@sbsimulators6913 I got it figured out. Set software to 540. Then in game calibration step 1: full lock clockwise step 2: counter clockwise to -34 or -35 just between. So weird but it works. Having a blast. Thanks for your response. Subd

[@stefanocanonica519]

I find driving is good on soft grounds but on tarmac feel wrong, i have a freeze frame every 15-20 seconds and it’s very annoying, in 4k max settings I drive at 80-85 fps with dlss off. Frequent crash to desktop both in race and in menu. 4070ti and 13700, cammus 15nm.

[@diegogolfhotel]

this is good to know, i was considering buying this game with my 4070ti but if the performance is still bad i guess i'll wait

[@ejqr68]

Great video! Enjoyed it a lot! I'll hopefully get to try this game if it ever gets VR.

[@sbsimulators6913]

It will be nice if it got VR, but Im not worried if it doesn't since we have Dirt rally 2.0 and RBR rallysimfans plugin since both of them have Vr

[@user-jx9nu1nu5n]

@@sbsimulators6913 just been announced today for end of april... final date to be confirmed.

[@sbsimulators6913]

@@user-jx9nu1nu5n Okay nice. Let's hope they actually implement it well.

[@YBFocus]

Stuart they haven't made any changes to the physics or handling?

[@sbsimulators6913]

Well I thought I felt a difference in handling when I looked at it the second time. I might have gotten a little too enthusiastic in certain parts of the video

[@YBFocus]

@sbsimulators6913 I think it felt fantastic from the outset, the notes are far more comprehensive too.

[@sbsimulators6913]

@@YBFocus Well each to their own as they say. Personally while I still prefer Dirt 2.0 over this. I still respect the game for what it is now compared to when I first reviewed it

[@10weslleynereu]

I think Dirt 2 stages were a bit too generic and I missed it a lot. This game solved it and with good handling and ff. At least we are not bound anymore to wrc gen (great stage but VERY BAD handling)

[@TheSoftCopofficial]

I can confirm, the patches did indeed change the handling model. very slightly but noticable.

[@BGP369]

"Dont Cut" .... proceeds to massive cut.... "oh the rock!" haha classic

[@sbsimulators6913]

HAHA yeah. That's what I get for not paying attention there 😅

[@mrelwoodgames5971]

Interesting review. An EA/CM representative commented on Discord that there haven’t been any changes in the physics or handling. I haven’t noticed any either. Maybe you just want to like the game more now?

[@sbsimulators6913]

Okay I'll be honest I wasn't aware of the comment the EA representative made on discord so I'll put my hand up and say my bad on that one 😔 But yeah, you're right in saying that I do enjoy it more than I did when I first reviewed it.

[@sbsimulators6913]

Hi all, Just leaving the fix I found for my stuttering issues in EA'S WRC steamcommunity.com/app/1849250/discussions/0/3975051032852511787/ While it didn't work out well for me, hopefully it will work better for you. I'll still keep on trying to fix stuttering in this game and I will accept any help here in the comments Other then that, my advice for this game remains the same. Buy it on sale if you can, or fly all the way to Finland to buy it for €5 euro cheaper instead 😂

[@LJT9393]

Or VPN switch yourself to Argentina and buy it for $5

[@sbsimulators6913]

​@@LJT9393You know what. I think I'll do that 😂

[@LJT9393]

@@sbsimulators6913 lol I have a buddy that does that. He’s also super techy and set up his own network at home (still uses a local provider but has superb firewalls and defences against breaches and that).

[@Ohlukei]

I play sincd release day and did not notice visual changes or changes in the driving phsics. Unllike Dirt Rally 1.0 the EA WRC cars can't drift through corners. Whenever the car sbould go into the drift it feels like someone hits the front brakes: the back turns round even further but the car will not get around the corner.

[@sbsimulators6913]

That's why I like Dirt 2.0 and 1.0 more than EA'S WRC. I find the physics and the handling on different surfaces feels better and more realistic imo

[@Ohlukei]

@@sbsimulators6913 "Dirt" and "Dirt Rally" are two different game series by Codemasters. The Dirt games were very arcadey and not always fun to drive. Dirt Rally on the other hand was quite good to me too except that with Dirt Rally 2.0 they removed the ability to drift through corners as it was in Dirt Rally 1.0. 🙂

[@playstationracer67]

Great video. Like dropped.

[@sbsimulators6913]

Thanks mate, much appreciated

[@tuliothales81]

It's unbelievable that a game from 2023 has graphics from ten years ago

[@RST9413]

Graphics is really good. In videos look little bit bad but i try it myself and is looking nice.

[@hayerenders4576]

​@@RST9413it honestly doesn't look good at all. If the performance was smooth. Sometimes the cars even look rough in the sort of garage / menu screen 🙈

[@ThisRandomUsername]

That tarmac really looks way too loose. Tar shouldn't allow much slip angle before you lose a lot of traction. It almost looks like you're floating when you turn without it gripping or making the tyres squeal.

[@sbsimulators6913]

Yeah I'll be honest, I'm more of a circuit racer then a rally racer, so I didn't think about that Tbh

[@RiC3R69]

Best Sounding Rally Racing Game

[@pl_AceKe3pr]

I had no experience at all w this title before the April3 1.70 release, so.. rose-colored glasses for me. same R9 wheelbase, rtx4070s @5760x1080, dlss3 on may be why I get single stutter, didn’t have it before the switch. I don’t see where physics was addressed in the 1.60 or 1.70 release notes, but I have had a few wheel hub driver updates from moza that are soo good that I even picked up nord.for acc on april1. Wrc, imho improved 2.0 except in establishing a career mode and pavement grip. Oh, soundtrack rocks almost. Ty will try the control panel fps 120 suggestion and or mirrors etc.

[@sbsimulators6913]

Okay well I'm glad to hear your having a better time with EA'S WRC then I am ATM. I'll keep tinkering with the settings and see what I can do to resolve the stuttering for me

[@racinvr]

Pretty sure no physics changes have been made since launch. FFB can make it feel different, perhaps a wheel firmware update caused the changes you perceive

[@sbsimulators6913]

Yeah another commentator here mentioned that someone from EA said that no physics changes were made. Nevertheless though, I do find myself enjoy EA'S WRC more then when I last reviewed it in December

[@racinvr]

@@sbsimulators6913 Yeah i think it is a great game, good fun but has its flaws like all the rest

[@sbsimulators6913]

@@racinvr I agree for what it is, it's a good game. I never once said in this or in my honest review that it was a bad game. I just felt it was a little bit of a downgrade from dirt rally 2.0. But that's just me, not the game

[@richardoliveira153]

Or maybe he was One of those who had the assists bug that would Turn the assists on in Race even tho people turned it off. When they fixed that bug a lot of people thought they did something to the physics.

[@sbsimulators6913]

@@richardoliveira153 I'll be honest. I wasn't aware that this bug existed. I hadn't played EA'S WRC since December so I imagine alot has changed since then

[@johnbush8254]

I'm on PS5 i haven't experienced any stutter

[@taxi615]

I've been playing since launch and never seen stuttering like your having and I'm only on a 5800x3d and 3080ti using high graphics on triple 1440p

[@sbsimulators6913]

Glad to hear you're enjoying the game. At least more than I am ATM. I will keep trying to fix it for me to see if I can enjoy it more than I am right now

[@taxi615]

@sbsimulators6913 it's a shame that this happens to you

[@sbsimulators6913]

@@taxi615 I know, and I couldn't agree more with you, but I'll keep trying to fix it for myself and see if I can find a solution to it

[@hayerenders4576]

I never had it stutter as bad as you had. More the Unreal Stutter magic what it does in a lot of games with Unreal Stutter. At least it doesn't have the Unreal Memory Leak problem, or it doesn't tell me it's the reason why this games crashes from time to time. Hopefully Codemasters will go from Experimental Beta to Open Beta 😂 . At launch it was alpha state

[@sbsimulators6913]

Well fortunately a patch update was released fixing the stuttering for me, just shortly after the video went up

[@hayerenders4576]

@@sbsimulators6913 that's good to hear. For me it still feels they did a quick update on Colin Mcrae rally 2 😂 . I just don't like how the new game looks.

[@hayerenders4576]

@@sbsimulators6913 that's good to hear. For me it still feels they did a quick update on Colin Mcrae rally 2 😂 . I just don't like how the new game looks.

[@Markalot284]

Bought it this week and got a refund after 1h. Its such a let down after playing dirt 2.0.

[@sbsimulators6913]

I agree, while I like this game better then I did before. I will still take dirt 2.0 and RBR with the rallysimfans plugin any day of the week

[@Silentpartner2176]

Those handbrake turns are sad, the game limits sliding so much it’s like a train simulator. Please don’t overhype things to get views. In DR2 you could slide for days.

[@sbsimulators6913]

Just giving my honest opinion at the time of recording the video, wasn't over-hyping anything. I even mentioned the game up until recently, has stuttering issues on various stages

[@Silentpartner2176]

@@sbsimulators6913 How could you have a positive experience with this game at time of recording, when you played DR2 before? It’s a horrible downgrade in almost every way from DR2.

[@sbsimulators6913]

@@Silentpartner2176 I think your missing the point here. Yes I agree, EA's WRC is a huge let down compared to DR2.0. Which I have mentioned here in my actual review that I made prior to this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYaViGCVfrOBiZY What I am saying is that, while I am having a better experiance with it then I did before I would rather play DR 2.0 over this still. I think I mentioned that near the end of the video

[@FlameBot]

The graphic is quite worse on 1080p60. Please do less compression next time. It's sooooo blurry

[@sbsimulators6913]

My bad there. I had that issue for a while now with Vegas magic. It's bean something I've bean trying to resolve for sometime now

[@ittybitbobo7657]

Mine has no shuttering at all

[@sbsimulators6913]

Okay fair enough. I'll keep trying to fix it for myself then

[@joejoe2658]

more better?

[@sbsimulators6913]

For me at least I believe. I'm enjoying it more than I did at launch

[@martineering.evoluzione]

This is a rally parody game that have nothing to do with the reality or sim. Go for RBR at least is much more better game with some mods and without spending a millions for production and false hype. Codemasters they never made any good sim game so far.

[@rebeexi_e3962]

My game never stutters like urs

[@sbsimulators6913]

Good news now. A patch was released recently that fixed alot of my stuttering issues. It's still there, but it's fairly subtle now

[@rabmccudden683]

Shit dude, ur as bad as me 😅. Jimmer spoils us with his flawless stages 😂

[@sbsimulators6913]

In fairness though, I'm more of a circuit racer than a rally racer. 😂 Luckily though, I don't mind because I don't take rallying as seriously as circuit racing 😂

[@rabmccudden683]

@@sbsimulators6913 I’d be better on a track myself sir. Just love a bitta sliding on gravel for the craic

[@sbsimulators6913]

@@rabmccudden683 Same here. I just like sliding the car around corners while rallying, especially FWD cars 😁

[@PureGames...]

I wonder if EA can do anything right ever?!?

[@sbsimulators6913]

Well I mean, as much as I hate them, they seem to have published a semi decent rally game. It's still plaguing with issues. But better then the usual slop I suppose