A Second Press? The RCBS Summit!

[@jmflying]

Summit press used for Summit Press is used for expanding in this video

[@ronsmith9228]

2 press advice excellent, I run RCBS Rebel and a RCBS Partner next to it. Resize case with 10 second dwell while running a case through a expander die, lube a new case and repeat. Trimming is done separately on a Lyman trim express. Bullet seating with Wilson in line seater… thanks for the inspiration Keith!

[@salparadise5448]

Since 20 years I am into lean management. Absolutely satisfying to see how you balance your process. Kind regards from Germany 🇩🇪

[@larryreinke6136]

I use a Forster Co-Axe press and I'm very happy with it. I'm retired so I have time on my hands, I don't need to spend money chasing rabbit holes. But I can see if I had a full time job maybe this would make sense.

[@dogbone1358]

I’ve had an RCBS Summit press for years. I love it. I got it because I watched a KZbin review that compared it with a number of other more expensive presses and the concentricity of the summit was the best.

[@wahuuka1]

What process are you handling with the Summit in this scenario? Getting necks right with a mandrel?

[@jmflying]

Summit Press is used for expanding in this video He added description in the video info

[@maurygold74]

Sac does have mandrel built in. Yes they’re pricey but single stage mandrel and size is awesome

[@davecollins6113]

I like using more two or three presses, it does speed things up. I can adjust to suit as I please.

[@michaelpistone8235]

I use the Summit as my bullet seating press - of course I run the RCBS MatchMaster Comp. Seating die Great little press that I can quickly and easily mount / dismount on my reloading bench.

[@gstyle2654]

I've got an RCBS rebel i use with a universal decapper. I can really get to flipping the light handle and ram when i get in a groove. I then use a Rockchucker Supreme for sizing. Great stout press for the step requiring the most force. And finally i use the Summit for bullet seating. I bought it knowing it has a weak point, if used for sizing healthy sized brass repeatedly. But it's a great press, and should i ever push it to failure, we fan boys already know of the RCBS customer service.

[@schuberthunt2]

Did the same thing with the same press last year! Works great for me.

[@flooded3456]

I have used 2 presses for some time. First press FL sizes, then goes into press with expander, then to rcbs brass prep station brushing neck and cutting inside of neck (for cases my henderson wont reach due to not enough expansion under pressure yet), then to my Henderson for inside outside and neck trim. Each sized case stays in my sizer for enough "dwell" time while performing the other steps. Then to the tumbler for 2 hours. Prime and rexpand neck just before powder and seating. I find assembly line type operations makes the monotony part of this not so boring. The older I get the more I am eying a Dillion automated. :)

[@Iscariot18]

The Summit makes for a fantastic auxiliary press, I use it for everything *other* than resizing, which it's quite poor at, what with a couple of issues i've had. Hopefully you've got the upgraded model with the newer bolts. The old bolts were threaded too long/shoulder too short resulting in the threads coming into contact with the soft casting resulting in imprinting and damage. RCBS will send it for free if needed.

[@francoisdavel1786]

Mr. Reloading Lean Six Sigma 😂

[@johnny30806]

I use one press for everything. Cant beat Lee products for the money.

[@misterlewgee8874]

I used an old old Lee challenger that was given to me..sloppy ram.....had some great results with it with Lee neck collet and seating dies... Then I got excited about the sloppy ram and got a redding big boss.2....anf lost the ability to feel when neck collet used...and squished a few mandrels. The Lee neck collet die and seating die are floating...I'm pretty sure...and Lee said the slop doesn't matter cos it locks up...I thinks.. Now I neck size with Lee hand press.. Was looking at the Redding version of that Lee press...a huge ram....for extra rigidity and less run out...😉🤷😏

[@johnny30806]

@ why on earth are you still next sizing your cases? You only need to bump the shoulder back 0.002 of an inch with a full length sizing die to get better accuracy.

[@thepracticalrifleman]

I have like six or seven presses. I may have a problem.

[@philipng6598]

I like the fact that summit press have little to no slack. My cases have 0.002” runout or less using it I guess that’s why you use it with mandrel expander

[@michaelmcdonough7946]

Did I hear you right, that you had a press mounted upside down for bullet pulling? Could you show how you do that?

[@bitogre]

This video is the first I have heard of "dwell" time during the reloading process. Can you provide more information on why you have a dwell time in your reloading process? What benefit does it have?

[@jeffmiller2433]

I use dwell time as well. Just 3 seconds and only for my Redding body dies. I find it helps get more consistency. My neck sizing is done with a Lee collet die, so it’s two handle presses for each case ( 2nd at 180 degrees, so no dwell time needed. )

[@cw2a]

Love mine!!

[@CS-xg2xh]

I re-watched the work flow several times but didn't hear you say what the Summit press does. I'm assuming a mandrel die?

[@peterconnan5631]

And in addition to the above question, what lube are you using, and how and at what point in the process are you cleaning it off?

[@whliving]

@@peterconnan5631 I believe he normally sprays a few shots of Dillon case lube in a ziplock bag with his brass and then agitates the brass with his hands followed by dumping the brass into a pan to allow the alcohol from the lube to flash off.

[@peterconnan5631]

@@whliving i thought it was Hornady's 1 shot? Will have to go looking for that video again, but also it might have changed in the mean time?

[@whliving]

@@peterconnan5631 he mentioned it in another video and hearted my comment above. So yes, it is Dillon. You can also make your own which is less expensive and easy to do. It’s merely lanolin and alcohol. I forget the ratio, but there are videos on KZbin.

[@airenthusiast2000]

​@@whliving 10:1 99% isopropyl alcohol and liquid lanolin

[@ProjectArms4719]

Has anyone tried using a progressive press to speed up your process?

[@dinoc.5537]

Once you have your process dialed in, you can move it to automation if it makes sense. Automation is a trade-off like anything else. It isn't always the right answer, but when it does make sense it us usually a slam dunk for time savings... with batch size usually being the driver.

[@ThinkSoberly]

I was looking for part two of your video on an annealing 2 years ago and how it affects accuracy. I couldn’t find it so just wanted to ask how do you feel that annealing your brass affect your accuracy or what is the good of it? In your opinion… thanks

[@Central_Desert]

Would like to know your thoughts (video) on barrel fluting Vs plain barrel. My barrels are fluted for appearance sake only. Cheers Martin.

[@winninginthewind]

I don't have any experience with fluted barrels. Sorry!

[@rak7101]

ALLCON - Summit used for Mandrel r/

[@rak7101]

What is the Summit used for? Mandrel?

[@winninginthewind]

Correct

[@pevelyhomeowner327]

So the 10s dwell to reduce spring back because it not freshly annealed?

[@Whocaresnoone69]

My summits shell hold is not in the center at all. Have to turn the shell holder to the right to help with runout.

[@Mykaelous]

What is the 10 second dwell for?

[@winninginthewind]

It prevents me from short-stroking the press more than anything. There is also some anecdotal data that suggests it results in slightly reduced variation from the sizing process.

[@Mykaelous]

@@winninginthewind So I assume you drop the press lever to seat the bullet and then let it sit for 10 sec as you do other things, or do you hold it down for 10 sec to fully seat the bullet?

[@winninginthewind]

@@Mykaelous No, I only use dwell with sizing. Seating is done on an arbor press in my system.

[@pjjd65]

I use multiple progressive presses to speed up my handloads..

[@deanokyritsis]

Just run a turret press with 2 dies

[@twofast1234]

Mine broke while resizing my 2nd 6.5cm case. 😅

[@sheldon_n]

Great video, spoken like a man well on his way to a Dillon progressive press. :)

[@richardfitzsimmons5244]

Now just grow another set of arms, and double that effiency

[@thetexasrat]

Please make a comment as to just what the operation is that you use the summit press for and then pin it please.

[@winninginthewind]

Added to the description.

[@guybalasso3682]

I find it to be a very poorly made press, but in saying that RCBS made things right