A Touch Of Retro, And A Whole Lot Of Cool! San Martin Retro Review [ SN004-G / San Martin '53]

[@chrissearle23]

Thé first watch I’ve been seriously tempted by for a couple of years.

[@tyelwell9]

Shane, so many other reviews on KZbin are just spec sheets. Thank you so much for providing honest critiques and true commentary on the watches you review. Cheers!

[@AliasEveWatches]

I've been thinking a lot about this watch for the same reasons: the vintage look, below 38mm, and the San Martin brand.

[@AlexanderB.]

Hi Shane, I absolutely agree with your conclusion. This is a very well made and very appealing little watch. If it had snowflake hands it would actually make a decent Tudor Blackbay homage. It would be even better if the bezel wasn't shiny, i. e. if they used a brushed ceramic bezel insert. Cheers!

[@WristWatching]

San Martin has confirmed they'll be releasing a BB58 homage with snowflake hands. You should wait for that!

[@fr0d0scious]

@@WristWatching Wow thankyou for that. Exactly what I wanted to know.

[@vamheredur413]

@@fr0d0scious You can take a look at the San Martin BB58 homage in the TaoBao app. (literally AliExpress with a Chinese layout) it was something like 940 Yuan (±100) which is like ~150 USD. But I guess it would be in the 200-250 USD price category on AliExpress.

[@AlexanderB.]

@@WristWatching Actually I do! ☺ Thanks for the heads up

[@andrei-cosmin.popa85]

@@vamheredur413 have you ever purchased from that website? I was considering that website as an aliexpress alternative, but never had the courage to register 😂

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

I recently got one of these myself. Absolutely loving it... Apart from when it came to removing links. That was a pain in the arse.

[@deanmignola5448]

Wow! I have the San Martin Sub homage V2 and absolutely love everything about it. I didn't think I would ever need a real sub or another sub homage. This watch is just stunning! And you get that San Martin quality.

[@Ktrb]

I bought v3. Spectacular value for the money. It's at the level of Steinhart for half the price. I only had to polish the crown on my own as it was extremely sharp. I bought it out of curiosity thinking I will sell it after a few months. Now I wear it more often than other watches.

[@NathanChisholm041]

Seriously? The same subs repeats regulated over and over! Next week SM releases a new sub homage!!

[@Dizzywind]

Good job of breaking down all the components of this watch. You might just be the David Attenborough of watch reviewers.

[@RelativeTime]

As always, thank you. I know he has a newer documentary out, I need to watch it.

[@davidbarclay3651]

I ordered mine. I have a few Dan Henry's and some real vintage pieces from Timex. This one just fits perfectly in my collection. I love your videos. Soothing voice over and great photos and editing. Real class

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! It takes time to put all of these together, but I enjoy doing it.

[@crespohuerta]

Own watches that are 20 times the price of this one, and i am completely in love with this San Martín, awesome watch

[@thebaldwatchcollector]

Oh my some of the finest videography and that's certainly helped tweek my interest in this brand and model

[@Andrew-J316]

Nice watch! Very nice with the Sailcloth strap! Thanks for review!

[@RelativeTime]

That sailcloth matched it perfectly.

[@knowyourhistory]

I love the new case size on this. I wish they'd make their pilot and 62mas homages with the same 38mm.

[@WillyMcCoy50]

Fantastic shots and cool narration. I have been on a 38-39mm diver jag lately. 2 Aquascaphes, one Odyssea and one Méraud Bonaire. I ordered a San Martin with a custom dial. I got the flight numbers of FedEx cargo planes and have been tracking my watch from China to Alaska to Memphis and finally here in Seattle. Should be here tomorrow. I had them print Bu Aero U.S.N. (Bureau of Aeronautics United States Navy) instead of the marvelous San Martin script.

[@robertuskoppies444]

Excellent reviews, great camera work and a cool voice....keep up the good work!

[@Unwoken_European]

I was always a fan of the 2 watch collections. Dress watch + universal watch (mostly divers). 38mm is the perfect both both of those watches classes.

[@ZROLLERZ]

Great review as always. Got this watch a week ago. So comfortable, looks great. San Martin does pretty good work imo.

[@RelativeTime]

They really do.

[@Laz_Arus]

Totally agree with you on San Martin's quality to price ratio. I have their SN038-G (Marine Master 300 homage) and couldn't be happier with it. I doubt anyone would be disappointed buying a San Martin.

[@ericwhitlow7364]

Agree about the crown. Maybe SM etched in? Or unsigned.

[@vamheredur413]

San Martin is the Patek Philippe (My heart says Vacheron Constantin, but Patek is arguably better) of AliExpress watches whilst beating Seiko with their competitive prices. Absolutely brilliant.

[@nicks8026]

Let’s not get carried away here. San Martin makes cheap knockoffs. Are they good at it? Sure but that is as far as it goes.

[@chasfoster9895]

@@nicks8026 Cheap knock-off sounds watch snobbish. One mans cheap is another man’s affordability

[@youraveragepasser-by7367]

@@nicks8026 homages aren't knockoffs

[@Stevenhufnagel]

@Nick S For the majority it makes no sense to drop 5-15k on a legacy brand when under 1k a fairly good repro is available.

[@chrisb5986]

Damn, on the sailcloth with the gilt stitching, that is sharp! Steinhart makes a very good piece, with a regulated ETA 2824. I have had two, and they are worth twice as much.

[@matthuckeba8749]

Any idea where to get a strap like that?

[@bifflee3603]

I think the case back is like that to emulate the original it is homaging, also they also offer up engraving if you so wish

[@RelativeTime]

That could be. I wonder how much they charge for that. Might be fun to make up some watches for the channel.

[@bifflee3603]

@@RelativeTime it's not very much I think around $30

[@ianmarshall3633]

Great review as usual Shane. The watch looks good as well. I think it would have looked better with a gloss black dial to match the gloss black bezel insert or a matt black insert to match the matt black dial. Either way works. Also, I noted that the lume on the handset does not quite match the lume on the indicise. Have you had a look at the Tisell Vintage Submersible? It's a great looking watch at 39mm and great value for money. I think you will like it.

[@exploringhistory5796]

Good video! You’ve brought up some points that other videos lack. I’ve been considering this watch for a while now. I’m thinking of the version 3 black dial with the pencil hands like the original. There’s a sale soon on aliexpress (4/25). $221 plus an additional discount for U.S. buyers. I may just have to pick it up for that price. Thanks for your informative video! 👍🏻

[@cecilyau4440]

This is my current favorite watch on AliExpress. Incidentally, I heard through Gary at ILW that San Martin is going to use this watch as a base for a Tudor Black Bay homage, which looks even better! You might have to review that one on your channel as well 😉

[@jonathankowalsky3143]

Please tell me more about this blafkbay homage ! Any date of release?

[@cecilyau4440]

@@jonathankowalsky3143 Hey, Jonathan. I’ve only seen pics of this. Have no idea what the timing is. I’m going to be keeping a close eye on San Martin in AliExpress. Maybe it’ll be released at their anniversary sale in March? 👍

[@jonathankowalsky3143]

Please share the images with us brother

[@RelativeTime]

Good to know. Shouldn't be too hard to do, mostly a hand swap.

[@vamheredur413]

@@jonathankowalsky3143 You can take a look at the San Martin BB58 homage in the TaoBao app/website. (literally AliExpress with a Chinese layout) it was something like 940 Yuan (±100) which is like ~150 USD. But I guess it would be in the 200-250 USD price category on AliExpress.

[@1959Berre]

Lovely watch. I certainly like the warm goldish glow, so much cosier than the hard b&w contrast on other homage models. Today, Oct 24 (2021) it is on sale: $ 238.

[@drzaius844]

Hey Shane, would you tell me where you got the strap at 0:17 that would be awesome with bronze cases.

[@RelativeTime]

I got it off watchgecko. They were out for a while but looks they have them back again. www.watchgecko.com/zuludiver-marine-nationale-nato-watch-strap-burgundy-white

[@matthewhill3996]

Get the black bay 58! You won’t regret it. The 39 mm by 11.9 thick is just sweet on the wrist. Just a lovely watch. The watch in the vid looks like such a bargain quite honestly

[@fr0d0scious]

Really great review, stacked with personal opinion. A benchmark for other KZbinrs. I totally agree with the Black Bay comparison. I even asked San Martin it they'd fit snowflake hands. They declined. I'm slightly torn about the Black Bay but this watch has me hooked and I'm trying to resist.

[@dparis2172]

I'm honestly surprised that they don't already have a direct BB58 homage on offer.

[@andrewd7586]

I bought this model just before Christmas & I love it! I have 3 other San Martin’s & nothing comes close for quality, durability, accuracy & price. My only niggle is the bracelet. I just cannot get the exact fit, hence I swapped it out for a NATO. Oh & it does come with a sapphire crystal. 👍🏼😎

[@teamhonn]

Great job presenting this watch as always

[@derekhicks8250]

Your macros are awesome. I have 2 San Martins, they're awesome...looks like this will be my third. All thanks to your macros lol.

[@janihellberg6911]

Bought this some time ago and you definitely get your moneys worth. I haven really got any experience with these kind of watches and I bought this kind of a fun thing becouse I could get my name on the dial but once I got it I'm suprised of the quality and finishing. Of course the movement is what it is. I'd prefer higher beatrate. And I have to say the customer service was asome.

[@thistleclockworks1292]

One of my favorite watches in my collection. You touched on two of my minor complaints: The hands and the movement. I’m tired of seeing Mercedes hands everywhere more than seeing NH35/36 movements everywhere. I’ll be opening mine up and swapping out the hands for old radium-lumed pencil hands and putting in an NH-38. While that’s now a move I’d recommend for everyone, it’s also not a reason NOT to buy. Meaning: buy this watch. The size is great, the look is great, and it pairs with so many straps. I’ve put it on the OG Bond for a “Diamonds Are Forever” look and was pleased. But I keep coming back to the bracelet. I have nothing else like it and it’s great. Wonderful review. I would like to see your take on the GMT.

[@denniskwok7613]

Great review. Are you able to tell me how small the bracelet is able to be sized down to?

[@berare777]

Best review about this model. New subscriber here.

[@treehugger3615]

Can you review their Radiomir homage the SN-081?

[@PaulewingStHelens]

This is one my favourite of the homages. Very close to the 6538 bond submariner. 38mm is just right for that style in my opinion. Most watches back then were probably smaller than that. Great review of a smashing watch.

[@daynevickers1079]

Great review! I'd love to see a review of the GMT version. Ok, I recently received the 'Leather' dialed version of this watch. Although I love it, it came out of the box with a terribly gritty crown action (YN55 mov't.). Also, the bracelet, while absolutely stunning, is virtually impossible to size without a third hand to use (or without damaging it)...oh, and it will pull some hairs if you have them. I'd rather see this watch with the no-cost option of an oyster style bracelet, such as is on the SN006. And oh yeah, might as well add add snowflake hands, silver-applied indices/bezel with BGW9 lume on the dial. Oh, yeah, that'd be a winner!

[@SilverSergeant]

Nice watch. Great review, as always.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! How's the orange Aragon?

[@SilverSergeant]

@@RelativeTime It should ship in about a week.

[@auttiebarnard7691]

I have one and love it, respects from South Africa, sword hands would have been great I agree

[@ElijsDima]

One of these is on its way to me right now. Quick note about the bracelet, this new version has a better (or at least different) endlink; the V1 endlink had an odd ridge in the middle, this V2 has a nice round midsection. Iirc the very earliest V1 bracelets also had only the out-poking "rivet style" screws, even on the last bit, unlike the flush screws used now; that's what really f-ed up the microadjusts.

[@gimbydude491]

I do like the “retro” looks (colors mainly I guess), and I actually like the contrast of the finish between the dial and bezel, I think the combination looks great together. It was interesting your comment at the end on the BlackBay. I was thinking the same thing...😂

[@kermitage]

Very nice watch, wish it had a date window though (preferably at 6 c'clock, with black date wheel and numbers of colour that matches the indexes).

[@sokalifornian]

The bezel seems to have changed. It is easier to read and has better contrast. Do you know if this was recently changed?

[@RelativeTime]

I got it earlier this month, so I guess things could of changed. Yet as far as I know this is the most recent version.

[@WaitingforUlcers]

Great review. I'm new to the channel and really appreciate all the effort you put into production and focusing on the watch. I gotta say, I'm tired of faux aging on lume. I recently got a Phoibus Proteus, and got so tired of looking at yellowed indexes I got rid of it. I don't know what it is. I think if I spend that much on a new watch, I want it to LOOK new.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks and welcome. Takes time to get all the different shots and strap changes, but I think it helps people evaluate the watch better.

[@ozludo]

It's a nice watch, but I wish they made an OVM version with swords, NH38 and this insert. The Steinhart OVM sword hands look *great* but the aluminium insert is disappointing and no one seems to make an alterfnative with a ceramic insert.

[@porschephile2k3]

+1 on the NH38. If they make the change then I'll buy this watch.

[@ozludo]

@@porschephile2k3 take a look at www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002027613494.html - different hands & date at 3 with a cyclops, but similar colour and an NH35. I'm not sure if the watch Shane reviewed here is currently available- the links go to a different one now.

[@porschephile2k3]

@@ozludo thanks but I do prefer the no date look. The NH38 is cheap and should've been a no-brainer, but it's probably a MOQ thing on the movements.

[@johnmuthan286]

Thanks for this great review, as always with your work. Totally agree with the sword hands, wich would have been better for me. Also disappointed with not using the NH38, which wouldn't have cost more but would fit better with the no-date configuration. Otherwise it is a great rétro diver.

[@anj4de]

As a James Bond fan I really like this one very much. I am tempted to buying it. I already have the Phylida james Bond watch from the latest movie...one from the 1st movie would for sure make a very nice ensemble...

[@japd7897]

0:10 What happened to that bezel?, I see it all black ...

[@RelativeTime]

I usually shoot stuff in a dark room with a couple of studio lights. That one is really reflective ceramic and the markers look like reflected silver. So doesn't do well in that environment. Not a lot of contrast, and if there is nothing for them to reflect back, they get washed out.

[@japd7897]

@@RelativeTime I thought It was a modification 😇.

[@amphibian200]

I would be very interested in seeing your review on the San Martin Vintage GMT. Apparently the movement is a clone of the ETA 2893 so it has a proper GMT jump hour unlike all other GMTs I have seen on aliexpress.

[@manfre6167]

Can you tell me how many mm is the dial?

[@RelativeTime]

Sorry. I sold this one to a viewer, so I can't check.

[@ustradingdiary]

Apart from this watch. Do you know of any alternative 38mm diver with similar pricing

[@RelativeTime]

Well I belive San Martin now has a Tudor looking version, but otherwise I don't know of anything else quite at that price. Closest I can think of is the newer SKX013 Homage that Marc from long Island made. Which is still not bad for $300. longislandwatch.com/islander-automatic-dive-watch-isl-63/

[@domokun938]

what's the minimum number of links on both sides with all the links removed?

[@RelativeTime]

The minimum number is 3 on each side. For the record, I have 5 on each side, and I'm on the furthest out micro adjust for my 7" wrist. Hope that helps.

[@domokun938]

@@RelativeTime thanks!

[@RaphaelRousseau]

Such a pity San Martin chose the NH35 instead of the NH38, but I guess they stock NH35A in huge quantities. I have the Phoibos Proteus you were showing; its lume is really really poor! Overall, this San Martin is really appealing, with the same dimensions as my Exciton that suits my slender wrist perfectly! Its retro feel is really tasteful to my eyes!

[@RelativeTime]

How do you like the Exciton? Heard good things about it.

[@RaphaelRousseau]

@@RelativeTime I'm really excited about how it came out! In fact, in such projects, buyers like me are not "just buyers", Gary managed to bring us in a journey where we were involved in the adventure. It goes further than an act of buy. So, I'm extremely happy with the Exciton but it's not "any" watch that I bought... Moreover, it's an edition limited to 100 pieces with a nice certificate of authenticity... The second watch of this nascent brand has begun. It should use the same case, different bezel, hands & dial. An engineer bracelet is under design. The movement should be the same Myiota 9015. The watch should launch on Kickstarter in the coming months. Reviews of the Exciton on YT are from reviewers that are also parts of the project (like me) themselves. So, not really objective but their personal involvement is also a good sign ;-)

[@bijakbijak4024]

I owned one but the bracelet twin screw design is my hate. So hard to size if its get stucked. So tiny to hold both screw driver to remove the screws. Ditch it, i prefer normal screws.

[@RelativeTime]

It can be a bit tricky, you almost need a third hand at times. I think the screwdriver they sent might be a little too big too. So I wound up using a couple of mine.

[@boston961]

I'm really torn between this and the steinhart , unfortunately I can't afford both . Would you say the quality of this piece matches a steinhart ?

[@RelativeTime]

It’s been a while since Ive seen a Steinhart in person, but I’m going to say it’s close. It might depend on if the steinhart you are looking at has applied indices, where as this one doesn’t. Otherwise the biggest difference will probably be in the movement. As Steinhart will have a high beat Swiss movement for a little bit better sweep.

[@watchalot919]

Good point about the bezel, a mat version would like nicer. UK prices must be different. The Steinhart is only an extra £100 here, and has a Sellita movement.

[@NathanChisholm041]

These are $237us the Steinhearts are closer to $600! not even close...

[@watchalot919]

@@NathanChisholm041 Yeah, this may be about duty and carriage. A basic Steinhart over here can be got for about £350, which is $480. By the time we pay duty and carriage on a $237 watch from China, it will be close to £250 (343 usd)

[@NathanChisholm041]

@@watchalot919 How much duty do you pay? We in Australia get charged 10% so $30 on say a $300 watch?

[@watchalot919]

@@NathanChisholm041 The duty on a watch from China that cost $300 is $60.72, meaning the total cost is $360.62. We also have to pay the same duty on the carriage. In brief, it's a total of about 25%

[@NathanChisholm041]

@@watchalot919 I forgot to say if I use DHL and it's $25 it's an extra $2.50 or 10% on top. WOW, 25% you guys pay extra? I remember when there was no charge but local business started complaining about losing business so they introduced the GST. Cheers

[@dunderhay9169]

Good looking and good value watch. I'm with you on the hands though and not a fan of homages so not for me. Great review as always, thanks 👍

[@zulu6ix290]

How’s the water résistants (for real) also they do custom logos

[@RelativeTime]

They say they can do custom logos and dials. I think it's about $30 a watch. As for water resistance, for any brand you never really know until you first test it. So it's hard to say for certain. That said, I haven't heard anyone complain about San Martin, and from the build quality I wouldn't hesitate going swimming with it myself. In fact I would if our local pool want still closed from the rona.

[@c.w.9615]

My Seiko Sub, the SKX023, is also 38mm, which is very charming. I think 38mm should be the smallest a diver should be for a gentleman, but I would very much appreciate 39mm instead. Thanks for the review.

[@NathanChisholm041]

What if you're not a gentleman?

[@c.w.9615]

@@NathanChisholm041 Then a smaller dive watch would be fine.

[@erickm6134]

Been following these San Martin above and of course there GMT is awesome looking also. The GMT béseles lumes also. You should one the GMT version.

[@andrei-cosmin.popa85]

Solid watch! Next, they will release a 40mm BB58 homage, in both color combinations 😎

[@RelativeTime]

Very cool. I'll ask the guy I've been talking to on their website. Maybe he has a good idea when it's going to be released.

[@rumatadestora]

I like this watch, but kinda wish it had a better movement than just NH35 (maybe PT5000)

[@RaphaelRousseau]

I fully agree, I really wonder why higher end watch brands stick to the NH35 instead of opting for movements like the PT5000, more in keeping with current state of the art...

[@rumatadestora]

@@RaphaelRousseau the main factor here, as I see it, is the price of the movement - NH35 costs around 30-35$, while PT5000 is almost twice that. But here with this San Martin I think they just cut costs for more profit, because for 240$ they could well put PT5000 inside. Chronos does that for a similar price, why can't San Martin?

[@RelativeTime]

I think part of that is it's a movement that a lot of people trust, plus keeps the price down. Which I think was more important a few years go. Back then it seemed like if you spent over $100 on an Aliexpress watch you were nuts. In fact I remember some comments saying just that. Although now a few brands, like San Martin, have developed a big enough reputation that people feel confident spending that much.

[@josemartinjuarezvargas8523]

I kinda wish it had an aluminum or stainless steel insert (even if it's inferior to ceramic)

[@RelativeTime]

That's always been the debate about them. There is more value when there is, but a lot of people don't like the glossy ceramic finish.

[@steve69chevy]

It almost looks huge glad it’s a 38 And no date

[@eliakuiper4266]

I like it a lot. Would prefer a mat aluminium bezel and 40mm but otherwise great. I have just got the Invicta 1953 with pencil hands. It's more my budget. But I would like the San Martin too

[@steve69chevy]

The blue one sure would look cool if the bezel was darker

[@pimeye]

Why do I think this and the Tudor BB58 look better on non-metal bracelets/strap?

[@RelativeTime]

Not sure, but I think it does too.

[@NathanChisholm041]

@@RelativeTime No way! Waste of time getting it just to take it off its bracelet!

[@MilatovichFamily]

You forgotr to say it is actually homage watch to Sean Connery bond rolex submariner 6538. :) But love the review and considering buying one. :)

[@jayh549]

The watch looks great but those hands are a deal breaker for me. I just don't like them at all. However, I do like that bracelet. Great review as always. Keep up the fine work. Cheers!

[@AnthonyStara]

Very nice watch!

Heh - you could say the case back was being authentic to the original 😊

[@RelativeTime]

Very True.

[@dparis2172]

I also see this as something of a homage to the BB58. If your interest in one is piqued you should check one out in the metal if you haven't already. I didn't like anything in particular about the BB58 when looking at it online so I dismissed all of the hype surrounding it. That was until I happened to walk into an AD and saw one looking striking on display. I took a closer look, tried it on and basically fell in love with it. Great proportions and restraint in the design (unlike the Omegas in the neighboring case). I've even come to accept the snowflake hands for what they are (the increased legibility claim is legit).

[@RelativeTime]

I was actually thinking of getting one last year, but then the Rona shifted some priorites around. So later this year I might look into it again. If nothing else I should go check them out to see the blue and the Gilt versions in person.

[@dparis2172]

@@RelativeTime Definitely worth the time and effort to check them out. The store I visited also had a previous gen BB58 also, but it was noticeably thicker and did not appeal as much on my (7") wrist. This might be a good watch to review, even though it has already been reviewed forwards and back, it may expose the channel to a wider audience.

[@andrei-cosmin.popa85]

@@RelativeTime The bb58 has great proportions and classic (sort of) look. And it has an egg timer! The only thing I would complain about would be the lack of on the fly adjustment on the bracelet. That and the fact having female end links makes the watch head slip downside, if worn a little loose. Also mind the fact those 72 hours of PR are actually closer to 2 days, unless you wax the dolphin every day. Regardless of the cons, it's my everyday watch.

[@dparis2172]

@@andrei-cosmin.popa85 "What the hell are you doing over there!?" "Uh, just keeping my watch wound, honey."

[@kristapsziemelis]

Strangely, Aliexpress companies quite often struggle with logos and have mix and match...

[@alexprendido2023]

Thanks for the video

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks!

[@johnkollias6782]

Definitely a nice homage to the Rolex sub. I think a miyota 9015 would have been a better movement. It's much better than the nh35 and a high beat to boot. I doubt if it would have increased the price too much. Good video.

[@waris3732]

NH35 is about $35, miyota 9015 is around $100.

[@jwags24]

Change the bezel insert and change the hands to the original submariner type and we have a win.

[@WillyMcCoy50]

The size is great. I distance myself from the now-a-go-go modern 42-44mm dazzlers. Just give me the goddamned time.

[@Curmudgeoned]

Nice watch. Great review. Just a shame it doesn’t have pierced lugs, after all it is supposed to be retro.

[@NathanChisholm041]

So lug holes make it retro?

[@aussie8114]

Very nice looking but I like quartz watches.

[@wristcandy5451]

I own one and love it. Fotina markings are warm and boxed sapphire great

[@ragnarone5409]

nice size

[@zillsburyy1]

their flieger has best lume ever

[@RelativeTime]

They usually do a great job, so in this case I'm thinking it's the choice of the Old Radium. It doesn't have quite the staying power of the normal C3 paint.

[@domokun938]

The second hand pip is too big and is too distracting

[@markphillips2072]

As far as the brand and there quality and price there a no Brainer . I'm looking for a Captain Willard homage and out of all the choices in this jonera think there the best and worth the few extra dollars over some of the other homages.

[@Laz_Arus]

hey Mark ... be sure to check out the SteelDive SD1970 if you're looking for a Willard homage.

[@markphillips2072]

@@Laz_Arus differently

[@bondpit8750]

‘Their’ and ‘Genre’ -sorry, couldn’t help myself. 😀

[@markphillips2072]

@@bondpit8750 I know think I'm smarter than I really am lol

[@ojsimps701]

Slab sided wonder if original had move bevel or polishing to squidge the case abit

[@educarmar]

Why the seconds pip is so big and out of proportions? The logo font is ridiculous - just saying. ;)

[@RelativeTime]

MIght be wrong on this, but I think the second hand is in keeping with the original subs. Modern ones seem to have shrunken the lumed lollipop, but the old school ones look like it's about the same size as one of the hour indicators. www.esquire.com/style/mens-accessories/g34645853/bobs-watches-iconic-hollywood-auction/

[@educarmar]

@@RelativeTime You are right, there are some vintage rolex with a massive and disproportionated seconds pip, probably they must have thought that understanding at a glance that the watch is still running must have been important for divers. Nonetheless, aesthetically it is a flaw - that is why probably this feature was very short lived. In a watch equipped with a movement that can deviates between +45 / -35 seconds per day... probably is as important to keep track of where the seconds hand is ;)

[@arcaine101]

Speaking of Black Bay. San Martin now has a Blackbay homage. Lol

[@RelativeTime]

So Ive heard. I think they got enough people asking for it, they just gave in and made one.

[@arcaine101]

@@RelativeTime try to get one in for a review if you can please.

[@RedWolfRedWolfRedWolf]

When did Patrick Bateman start doing watch reviews?

[@RelativeTime]

Right after I got my new business cards.

[@RedWolfRedWolfRedWolf]

@@RelativeTime 🤣

[@NathanChisholm041]

Taking the bracelet off to put a boring rubber strap on should be a crime!

[@rafaelalbarracin9278]

Estimado, lo felicito por la forma elegante que tiene para realizar las reseñas. En cuanto al reloj hay un detalle que deberían corregir en el dial en la indicación de 200 m que es el signo = que tendría que ir a la altura de la m. Saludos👍

[@juniorjohnson5961]

If it had a different hands I would be interested Mercedes hands belong on Rolex or Mercedes cars

[@juniorjohnson5961]

Im still looking at this watch and discovered you can get this watch with pencil hands .

[@daleschmidt7157]

I like.

[@HVG67]

I was thinking: "Hmm yet another Chinesium watch." But San Martin seems to be mostly ok compared to others.. now if they make one like the Invicta 1953 with a better bracelet, sapphire and ceramic bezel insert, I'd be game!

[@Crazy09starkillor]

This does have a wayyyy superior bracelet, domed sapphire and ceramic bezel insert tho?

[@JayJohnPaul]

I own both... The Invicta 1953 feels like a $10 watch when compared to this bad boy.

[@Crazy09starkillor]

@@JayJohnPaul hey its you 😂, what's up my man

[@JayJohnPaul]

@@Crazy09starkillor Ayyyyye! I wanna buy another dive watch 😳

[@Crazy09starkillor]

@@JayJohnPaul who doesn't man

[@clintlanier8534]

Just wish it were 40-41mm and 47-48 lug to lug

[@stevefox8605]

Not a fan of the submariner design(hate mercades hands, swords or snowflakes would be so much better) , & 38mm is too small for me. Do wish more divers didn't have a date, & like the colourscheme tho. Cheers mate 👍🏻

[@timmcdonald5335]

For me too small and not a fan of the rivits on the bracelet.

[@ojsimps701]

Retro genghis div watch all props to the great wall of China nh35 meh!

[@martinbacon6904]

This seems to be pretty much a BB58 rip off. Even down to the bracelet which is often the most negative point of the 58.

[@RelativeTime]

Well it's more an homage to the first subs of the late 50s. Which in a lot of ways is what the BB58 is too.

[@tomasinacovell4293]

I wish it wasn't fauxtina, or the propriety ceramic bezel insert that's really an insult to the original and is out of place on this, plus no pierced lugs, that alone would have been better than the stupid features?

[@samteks125]

Wow, continuing the channel-crossing hate. Makes one wonder what the SN004 did to you that it deserves such a harsh reaction.