A Transit Line that’s a Roller Coaster

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@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I kind of love that I accidentally stumbled into the coaster enthusiast community. Felt like I've learned a lot from these comments!
@TheLoooorrrrreeeeax
@TheLoooorrrrreeeeax 8 ай бұрын
Thoosie and partial transport lover here, I haven’t even seen the video yet, but I just know this will be the best!
@AMPProf
@AMPProf 8 ай бұрын
UMM Soo now we need the b story.. Tokyo ??
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
@@AMPProf check out some older videos!
@LeafHuntress
@LeafHuntress 8 ай бұрын
What's really funny(for me at least) about that is that some of the roller coaster companies grew out of companies that originally laid mining track, so it's from freight railways to theme parks to public transport. :-)
@Foxy_AR
@Foxy_AR 8 ай бұрын
„Transit rollercoasters“ that sounds exactly like something I would do in RCT2 😂
@thealmightydoge5653
@thealmightydoge5653 8 ай бұрын
This is quite an interesting story. Pennsylvania actually experimented with this sometime in the 1800s. It was called the Mt. Penn Gravity Railroad, and it was essentially a railroad thrill ride that people thought to be a Rollercoaster. It used Shay steam locomotives to pull the train up the mountain, and have an operator uncouple the coach from the train and that same operator would rely on gravity to take the coach back to the foot of the mountain, with of course them controlling the coach's brakes.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
That sounds fun but mildly terrifying!
@NickBurman
@NickBurman 7 ай бұрын
The Mt. Tamalpais & Muir Woods Railway in California worked on the same principle. Trains would leave Mill Valley (NWP connection) behind Shays (and a Heisler) and climb up to the summit of Mt. Tamalpais. There the locos would cut off and the cars given a shove to head downhill by gravity under control of a brakeman on the branch to Muir Woods. The locos would come behind at a discreet distance. Coming back, the cars would be hauled back to the summit, then let down by gravity back to Mill Valley.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 7 ай бұрын
@@NickBurman I remember reading about both of these two unique tourist railroads online.
@Zenit_Bourg
@Zenit_Bourg 8 ай бұрын
You explained it very well! I hate when municipalities waste money on unproven tech but by no means it is a reason to stop pursuing said tech. Maybe it just haven't meet it's niche situations yet like how ropeways were only useful in mining quarries before adopted into ski lifts and then mass transit in South America A novelty ride at a zoo is a perfect testing ground for gadgetbahns and honestly roller coaster based train is just sick.
@matty2128
@matty2128 8 ай бұрын
I am excited to see if it counts as a credit in the coaster community.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
We should start a poll
@mt_xing
@mt_xing 8 ай бұрын
American Coaster Enthusiasts would say no because their definition of a credit explicitly excludes anything designed for transportation instead of amusement. Of course, no one is under any obligation to follow ACE's definition of a credit, and indeed most enthusiasts I know do not.
@B4DF0RCE
@B4DF0RCE 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA pls dont start another culture war branch. our society is already in shambles enugh.
@Coasterpostalt
@Coasterpostalt 8 ай бұрын
@@mt_xing I'm curious what ACE would think if some one (or probably entity) decided to build a true B&M hyper that had two different stations which you had to get off at.
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 8 ай бұрын
It's always been a bit curious to me that the upstop-wheel/guide-wheel technology that roller coasters have had for over a century doesn't get used in transportation to prevent derailments. But, of course, it has many drawbacks when applied to transportation: these wheel assemblies are more complex and generate more friction, they can't use conventional track, and they make switches very bulky and cumbersome, because conventional railroad switches don't work--you have to swap out a whole section of track. So it makes sense that this would be used only on a very short-range line that practically is an amusement ride.
@PiplupJames
@PiplupJames 8 ай бұрын
Slowest roller coaster? LETS GO!!! (I thank you for using my videos and would glad to help you out anytime. -Jamie “PiplupJames” Battle🐧)
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great footage!
@PiplupJames
@PiplupJames 8 ай бұрын
You’re so welcome 🐧
@Poison_Eevee
@Poison_Eevee 8 ай бұрын
Downhill and powered by gravity? Its a credit.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
In English please
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA What he means is: _„When counting the number of rollercoasters I've been on, this _*_does_*_ count as one.“_ 🚈🎢✅ (There are _Coaster Counter_ applications we enthusiasts use to keep track. Me? I count my rides on _Nemesis_ using a simple four-wheel combination lock. Oh and that reminds me, I need to buy a new lock... 😉) (And - Somewhat disturbingly - This has just made me realise that _Nemesis_ now bears the dreaded *UKCA* mark... 🎢🇬🇧🔥😳)
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Ahhhh, thank you so much. I am woefully unaware of coaster jargon
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
A credit for sure!
@PiplupJames
@PiplupJames 8 ай бұрын
Yep. Coaster credit is mainly an enthusiast term of how many roller coasters someone has been on. As of 4/17/24, I’ve been on 316 coasters with the most recent at Six Flags Fiesta Texas, called Dr. Diabolical’s Cliffhanger.
@nicolasblume1046
@nicolasblume1046 8 ай бұрын
Next up: An actual Rollercoaster using BRT
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Yet another example of something BRT would be bad at
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 5 ай бұрын
Oh, the tracks on the cobra roll are closed for repairs so you're going to have to transfer to a free shuttle bus through that section.
@milliedragon4418
@milliedragon4418 8 ай бұрын
That's actually pretty smart * roller coaster tracks being used as transportation, you know especially for a small area like this you don't really need traditional rail anyways.
@ArrowDynamics88
@ArrowDynamics88 8 ай бұрын
With the ever-changing coaster technology, this could definitely be an economically viable solution for many shorter transit lines. I've actually had this thought for years but I just envisioned normal coaster trains running along side interstates, lol.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
That could work in the Rocky Mountains! Gravity, do your thing
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 8 ай бұрын
Same-Same! As someone grew up watching and riding the Mindbender at WEM here in Edmonton, I always wondered if this technology could be adapted for local PRT use... The answer is 100% I love it!
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 8 ай бұрын
I always wondered if roller coaster tracks could ever be designed to be used for mass transit. Good to know I wasn't the only one and in fact the answer is overwhelmingly, YES! Very very cool! Maybe this is a solution to adding more last-mile transit from LRT or RT stations... I know Singapore does this in their New Towns where you get off the main train and transfer to your neighbourhood station via an automated PRT line. Now that's living in the future!
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I am so curious to see what happens with this. Looking forward to trying it out.
@Skip6235
@Skip6235 8 ай бұрын
I’ve often wondered if roller coaster track technology might be useful for lines that require many twists and turns due to complex geography. Obviously the turns can’t be as intense as on a real roller coaster, but could you design the banks and grades such that the ride quality was pleasant and not much beyond 1G, and would those curves be tighter than traditional heavy rail or metro curves?
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Perhaps paired with some really good tilting technology. It certainly could decrease the loading gauge required in tight spaces.
@arsenicCatnip413
@arsenicCatnip413 8 ай бұрын
as a railfan AND an enthusiast this is really cool to me!!!
@Mike__B
@Mike__B 8 ай бұрын
I remember back in the day with the Roller Coaster Tycoon games, I did exactly this, instead of using the boring slow train ride to move people from one half of the park to the other I just used a roller coaster with a LIM launch.
@The_Untitled
@The_Untitled 8 ай бұрын
"What do you do for work?" "I drive a rollercoaster"
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
They’re gonna need to invent a new kind of license
@rikkichunn8856
@rikkichunn8856 8 ай бұрын
I've been reading about a certain politician who is currently on trial--and is falling asleep in court! Just the kind of person we don't need driving a transit rollercoaster!
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 8 ай бұрын
There are a few very old roller coasters that have a brakeman riding on the train--the most famous is probably Rutschebanen at Copenhagen's Tivoli Gardens. They're of a variety that is so old they *don't* have upstop wheels gripping the bottom of the track.
@ChillaxeMake
@ChillaxeMake 8 ай бұрын
Rutschebanen at Bakken has a brakeman, and many other roller coasters, too.
@lylelanley18
@lylelanley18 8 ай бұрын
Actually, the correct term for someone that operates a roller coaster from a 'panel' is called the 'driver', not to be confused with a brakeman that rides on the older scenic railways as noted below.
@mm-yt8sf
@mm-yt8sf 8 ай бұрын
it coasts! it rolls! it's a "roller coaster". finally a ride i wouldn't mind 🙂 next achievement, sleeper roller coaster cars
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Soon we’ll enter into the world of luxury “cruise” roller coasters.
@rikkichunn8856
@rikkichunn8856 8 ай бұрын
The dining car would add the challenge of keeping your meal down!
@history_leisure
@history_leisure 8 ай бұрын
The Dr. Suess area at Islands of Adventure in Orlando has a trolley ride, but uses powered coaster technology from German manufacturer Mack Rides. Blauer Enzian at Toshimaen in Japan, Max + Morritz at Efteling in the Netherlands, and Thunder Run/Aplen Express at Canada's Wonderland being examples
@history_leisure
@history_leisure 8 ай бұрын
I would take the "trolley" ride here maybe as a better gauge than a monorail: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jovYpqqsYtNlrbcsi=QLRV_wrFLXV3ZOv_
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for lending me the footage today!
@lylelanley18
@lylelanley18 8 ай бұрын
What a nice way to discover they passed on my monorail bid.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Even bad news hits different when it's wrapped in that signature Trains Are Awesome package
@lylelanley18
@lylelanley18 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA Yes it does, it hits much better. By the way, Thom, let me be the first to welcome you to the coaster enthusiast community, awesome peeps like you are always welcome!
@ToaOfFusion
@ToaOfFusion 8 ай бұрын
Do-dodonpa may be gone but at least we have the Ueno Zoo rollercoaster coming soon
@bareth_
@bareth_ 8 ай бұрын
When I was living in Tokyo in 2019, I remember being so disappointed after learning that they were closing down the monorail. This is such a relief!
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised too! Though time will tell if this thing can take over the same place in our hearts as the monorail had.
@7DenshaMaster
@7DenshaMaster 8 ай бұрын
Honestly think this could potentially be a low cost solution for small scale cities that want rail transit. It sounds good on paper but the real test comes in execution.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Glad there will be an example we can learn from!
@brianhubert8418
@brianhubert8418 7 ай бұрын
Another advantage I see for niche applications would he how miminal the elevated guideway would need to be for steel coaster track.
@brandoncole5533
@brandoncole5533 8 ай бұрын
Never expected my train and rollercoaster fixations to cross ngl
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
How amazing that it finally happened
@PaulSchaffert
@PaulSchaffert 8 ай бұрын
Roller coaster track has gone through significant innovation over time and is optimized for durability, cost efficiency, elevated installation, and compound curves. It's an intriguing choice for specialized or small-scale transit systems, especially if the spare parts can be readily obtained off the shelf. Newer coasters even have automatically operated points (switches), so traditional transit features can be integrated.
@brimbles4999
@brimbles4999 8 ай бұрын
honestly extremely smart, like it still keeps a "gimmick" i guess you could say BUT the parts to maintain the technology are extremely standardized as there's many roller coaster companies that specialise in this type of equipment even if the carriages are vastlly different. reminds me of how very mountainous cities in south america utilise cable cars to get between towns, as despite sounding gimmicky isn't too crazy as many companies already specialise in the equipment when it comes to ski resorts and other times of tourist attractions (i mean tokyo has a few cable cars as well)
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 7 ай бұрын
I remember reading and hearing that at least some lines of the London UndergrounD have the stations placed uphill of the main tunnels to help with acceleration and deceleration as well, which is an interesting design choice. Some other subway systems may also be set up this way.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 7 ай бұрын
There’s one station in the Netherlands, Rijswijk, which is the opposite of that, and as a former regular user I’ve always wondered why they designed it so poorly.
@Luke_Starkenburg
@Luke_Starkenburg 8 ай бұрын
This is really cool! I am not a fan of the concept of cable propelled trains, but for such a short distance, it seems like it would be appropriate use of the Doppelmayr systems.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I wonder what the propulsion system will be
@ck4426
@ck4426 8 ай бұрын
That’s so awesome that this train is going to replace the monorail!!! I hope you can ride this once. It’s ready to roll. That would be awesome!!!
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I’m sure I’ll find my way over there again someday
@nickclark2278
@nickclark2278 8 ай бұрын
Intamin have a monorail/transit division
@samuelitooooo
@samuelitooooo 8 ай бұрын
Now I have to know: Is this a credit? And what will the block zones be like?
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 8 ай бұрын
Can't say if this'll be a „tick“ on Coaster Counter or not...But given the way the existing Schwebebahn worked, the _train_ is the token for the block working. 😉
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I had to Google what credit means
@PiplupJames
@PiplupJames 8 ай бұрын
For those who are unfamiliar, a block zone is…watch El Toro Ryan😅
@arsenicCatnip413
@arsenicCatnip413 8 ай бұрын
for those of you unfamiliar, a block zone is a section of track which only one train may occupy, at the end of the block zone is a method to stop the train. this is the safety system that prevents roller coaster trains from colliding into each other.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
@@arsenicCatnip413 there will only be one train on this line
@Fireball_
@Fireball_ 8 ай бұрын
Well it's not a roller coaster but it's closer to being one than most trains. We gotta call up intamin to make one
@MrCateagle
@MrCateagle 8 ай бұрын
Downhill run could do some regenerative braking.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I’m sure they’ll find ways to make this thing’s footprint as small as possible!
@MrCateagle
@MrCateagle 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA I am certain they will but I can see them applying useful technology to make it more efficient. Regenerative braking with a EMU makes where the power is fed back into the system makes more sense than the regenerative braking on diesel locomotives where the power is dumped as excess heat.
@jusjetz
@jusjetz 8 ай бұрын
Roller Coaster Transportation? Now I’ve Seen Everything.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Like that guy in the curious George movie
@ParticleBeamLeonard
@ParticleBeamLeonard 7 ай бұрын
About a decade ago, I had a dream that the Link Light Rail in Seattle was a roller-coaster with a giant loop and I was too scared to ride so I broke out of the train before it entered that section.
@Tomneom
@Tomneom 8 ай бұрын
From What i can see, this appears to be manufactured by intamin! (A Rollercoaster and Monorail manufacturer) The Track Type matches some of their newest coasters, and the monorail carts also match, so it's pressumably a prototype by them.
@BAKU2K2
@BAKU2K2 8 ай бұрын
It would likely be made by Senyo Kogyo, they have developed a roller coaster transit system in conjunction with the University of Tokyo called the "Ecoride." The concept art shows a very similar track type to what's in the video.
@LGVRhin-Rhone
@LGVRhin-Rhone 8 ай бұрын
@@BAKU2K2 indeed it will be manufactured and operated by senyo kogyo.
@michaelb9629
@michaelb9629 8 ай бұрын
That sounds exciting! I never thought there would be a replacement either after the monorail left that zoo. It looks like it’ll really be interesting from what I can tell.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I wasn’t expecting a replacement either!
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 5 ай бұрын
Earlier this summer, I saw the disused tracks and stations of the Ueno Zoo Monorail. No sign of the new construction yet.
@rikkichunn8856
@rikkichunn8856 8 ай бұрын
Sometime around 1900, in Mill Valley, CA the Mt. Tamalpais and Muir Woods Railroad ran a scenic line up to the top of Mt. Tamalpais. When you were ready to come down, you boarded the gravity cars! The operator had nothing but a hand brake to control the ride down the mountain. Whee! The next step, of course, is to combine the rollercoaster technology transit line in the zoo with the Washington DC Zoo's O Line. Imagine, a zoo rollercoaster operated by orangutans! That would be really exciting!
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like fun!
@ashermccready
@ashermccready 8 ай бұрын
that is possibly the sanest thing the mount tam RR ever did
@notmuch_23
@notmuch_23 8 ай бұрын
Kind of reminds me of Nevermore Park, a RollerCoaster Tycoon Loopy Landscapes scenario with a roller coaster as a transport ride.
@Luke_Starkenburg
@Luke_Starkenburg 8 ай бұрын
I was really disappointed when it closed also, and I had no idea they are replacing the train until your video!
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
To be fair, I don’t think they initially said they were going to replace it. This announcement took me completely by surprise.
@n7-leto960
@n7-leto960 8 ай бұрын
WOW! Finally, a public transportation system I am 100% in favor of! And another coaster credit to boot! I wonder how it'll rank in terms of stats among other coasters.
@Techno-Universal
@Techno-Universal 8 ай бұрын
The new trains look quite similar to the Tangara trains in Sydney that are EMUs that entered service in 1988 and were designed by a Japanese company in collaboration with the Australian government’s department of engineering known as COMENG.
@CubeAtlantic
@CubeAtlantic 8 ай бұрын
Tokyo & Japan trains are legit psychedelic & nice to probably ride/pilot :D
@philrabe910
@philrabe910 8 ай бұрын
There is a BART connector to Oakland International Airport that is this. It is cable driven which is also fun. But expensive. It was half a billion dollars whereas an aerial cable car system would have been around $60M. It looks really cool and is earthquake resistant. (as would be a cable car)
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
It’s slightly different, the Cable liner technology that it uses has wheels on the top and side but not the bottom.
@whophd
@whophd 7 ай бұрын
Wow that design looks a LOT like the 1988 “Tangara” for Sydney Trains, in its original paint scheme. Just a baby version.
@vsetfortysevenproductions
@vsetfortysevenproductions 8 ай бұрын
1:15, is it me or does that "monorail roller coaster" sorta remind me of the Sydney Tangara trains (more specifically in the original liveries), except it's way smaller, and it's a "rollercoaster".
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
You’re not the first to notice it!
@Thommygun-qv7um
@Thommygun-qv7um 8 ай бұрын
I like that idea! Most cities would have just used some kind of a bus!
@teecefamilykent
@teecefamilykent 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant video.
@MJTacay
@MJTacay 4 ай бұрын
That's cool 🎉 Thx for sharing ❤
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios 8 ай бұрын
How the cars are powered will be interesting. It would be cool if it starts by engaging a chain to climb up a hill and then coasts into the station. But instead, it will probably have some system for powering some of the guiding wheels with electric motors.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I bet they’ll use a cable of sorts. Or a battery.
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA A cable would be simplest. But the key advantage is that roller coaster track and wheels are pre-engineered. This could be the start of a revolution in low volume public transportation.
@wiggetman
@wiggetman 8 ай бұрын
if ur from Tokyo ur english is extremely good, this vid is also pretty cool
@GobbiExists
@GobbiExists 2 ай бұрын
I mean, Japan does have the shinkansen. Trains are just roller coasters but actually useful so maybe those trains could go fast. If they can make trains go so fast that I can’t even remember the number, they can certainly make this train fast.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 2 ай бұрын
Trains and roller coasters use very different tech tho
@aikohikari6587
@aikohikari6587 8 ай бұрын
If it counts in coaster count, I am definately booking a holiday to Japan. 😁👍🏼
@georgeadams1853
@georgeadams1853 8 ай бұрын
Speaking of monorails, have you visited the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal and the H-Bahn in Dortmund and Düsseldorf?
@Trainsaregreat365
@Trainsaregreat365 8 ай бұрын
I love the video as always thom you always upload interesting videos
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much
@dutchmeikuh8822
@dutchmeikuh8822 8 ай бұрын
Great idea 😁
@zacharycleary3692
@zacharycleary3692 8 ай бұрын
This is the weirdest transit system that I have ever seen, coming from someone who has experienced riding Rollercoasters from Universal Orlando Resort to Cedar Point(a.k.a The Rollercoaster Capital of the World ) to Dollywood , I am wondering how that transit system is going to work with Rollercoaster track rather than traditional steel wheels on steel rails
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 8 ай бұрын
Not really a gadget bahn as it's within a private venue and presumably you have to pay to go into the zoo to use it and zoos aren't cheap!
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
It’s public, run by the city government (the zoo and the train). And it’s not expensive at all!
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 8 ай бұрын
As a longstanding rollercoaster enthusiast, engineer, and member of the RCCGB, I can see *exactly* why Tokyo Zoo would choose this option. Aside from the inherently better safety compared to conventional rail technologies (Rollercoasters are - By design - Virtually impossible to derail 👍) rollercoaster tracks are easier to form to and design around the terrain that the Schwebebahn (Monorail) follows, may not require evacuation gangways (If the train can roll safely to the lower station from any point), and at lower speeds rollercoaster wheels are extremely quiet (Especially the softer rubber types this'll no doubt employ) which will reduce animal disturbance and improve welfare. 🚟🐼👍 Personally, I've often wondered why rollercoaster technology isn't applied to mass transport applications...And now somewhere is _finally_ trying it out (And - As always - 🇯🇵 was one of the first on this!) it might open the floodgates for the adoption of similar systems in the future! 👍
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I’m happy to see so much positive response to this project!
@readmedottext
@readmedottext 6 ай бұрын
reminds me of when NASA almost chose a roller coaster for the launch escape egress system for what would have been the Ares I (now SLS) / Orion launch tower.
@Papershields001
@Papershields001 8 ай бұрын
Oh man! I went to the Ueno Zoo in 2015 and didn’t take the monorail! I wasn’t as into transit back then tho.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Sad! Hopefully you’ll ride this new one if you get the chance!
@thomash2806
@thomash2806 8 ай бұрын
Didn’t they get in touch with Wüppertal about suspended railway maintenance?
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Very different tech
@mibnsharpals
@mibnsharpals 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA I think the question was whether they could preserve and modernize the old railway.
@ЦзинКэ-ы5х
@ЦзинКэ-ы5х 8 ай бұрын
Which is rather strange. Japan has it's own monorail rolling stock manufacturers. There are also manufacturers in Korea and China, not so far away.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
But none were remotely similar to the one in Ueno Zoo
@ЦзинКэ-ы5х
@ЦзинКэ-ы5х 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA IMHO it still would be cheaper to retrofit existing infrastructure to handle modern monorail rolling stock.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
@@ЦзинКэ-ы5х but the companies that could retrofit this line don’t exist anymore
@ЦзинКэ-ы5х
@ЦзинКэ-ы5х 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA I don't think so. Hitachi Rail would see no problem updatimg\upgrading the line. There are also quite promising chinese suspended monorail systems, Wuhan's Sky Train is one of the latest. It's just a question of how much you're ready to pay for it.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
@@ЦзинКэ-ы5х but basically they are retrofitting it. The people who actually know the finances have decided this is cheaper. I trust them.
@OfficialSEIC2K6
@OfficialSEIC2K6 8 ай бұрын
Roller Coaster Transit Train. Wow.
@iO-Sci
@iO-Sci 8 ай бұрын
Wow ! it looks serene and a oldest sci-fi rollercoaster. 우와 ! 그것은 고요하고 가장 오래된 공상과학 롤러코스터처럼 보입니다.
@history_leisure
@history_leisure 8 ай бұрын
Apparently Gerstlauer, a German manufacturer known for coasters with beyond vertical like Takabisha and TMNT: Shellraiser (technically the same, but the latter is fully indoors and took the steepest drop record by half a degree) have a very small coaster model where you put the child (up to 88lbs/40kg) in a car and then the parent dispatches the ride. RCDb doesn't list a top speed, but they are only like 6ft/2m tall and 75.5ft (23m) long. I'm sure Airtime Thrills probably figured it out in his prime ride time video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2K4f42bo8emodUsi=QmIJQB9_ZH5Ug55T
@S-CB-SL-Animations
@S-CB-SL-Animations 8 ай бұрын
I'm friends with Jamie Battle!
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Nice!
@S-CB-SL-Animations
@S-CB-SL-Animations 8 ай бұрын
​@@Thom-TRA Thanks!
@Lorellian
@Lorellian 8 ай бұрын
With the speed with which roller coasters are constructed, it’s actually surprising to me that their tracks aren’t used more in transit. Imagine if one of these could fill a temporary gap while tracks are being rebuilt, or provide temporary mass transit to a major event like the olympics. Or maybe even use this track tech to add a mass transit connection across an existing bridge without adding much weight, wind stress, cost, or taking away lanes.
@rikkichunn8856
@rikkichunn8856 8 ай бұрын
Given the slow speed at which American transit and commuter rail lines are typically constructed, maybe roller coaster technology has a lot to commend it! On the Chicago CTA Red Line, the most exciting part of the ride is entering the subway from the north. You go down a slope, then around a 45 degree curve as you continue descending into the subway. The speed used to be controlled by the motorman on the train, guided by the signal lights which featured a distinctive yellow over lunar white indication. It was exciting--almost like a rollercoaster! Maybe stodgy commuters would pay higher fares to ride a rollercoaster to work!
@b43xoit
@b43xoit 8 ай бұрын
The very reason this is a plausible engineering solution that can plausibly come in at a low enough cost for building and for maintenance is exactly that it is old tech.
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath 8 ай бұрын
The obvious format would be an endless loop otherwise you'd need 2 vaguely parallel tracks with switches at each end \m/
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
It will be a single track line
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA if it's a single end-to-end run, that raises questions about how kinetic energy is absorbed at each arrival zone - an endless loop makes it all so much simpler \m/
@amadeosendiulo2137
@amadeosendiulo2137 8 ай бұрын
If a gadgetbahn is meant to be a gadgetbahn there's nothing wrong.
@dave11686
@dave11686 8 ай бұрын
Very cool
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@tspryaviation
@tspryaviation 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully they reuse tbe old and iconic musical horn from the old monorail. It wouldn't be the same zoo without hearing that tune
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
True. They use that horn on many JR East Limited Express trains too.
@daylightdaylight6612
@daylightdaylight6612 8 ай бұрын
In Wuppertal in Germany they have it since 1901
@mibnsharpals
@mibnsharpals 8 ай бұрын
Yes, that's what the old railway was like. But now it's not a real single-track railway, but a very slow roller coaster. So it's a completely different technology.
@daylightdaylight6612
@daylightdaylight6612 8 ай бұрын
@@mibnsharpals what you mean? The railway in Wuppertal is still the same.
@mibnsharpals
@mibnsharpals 8 ай бұрын
@@daylightdaylight6612 OK, the old train is based on the same system as in Wuppertal, the new one is not. Ev. I misunderstood you. I'm just wondering why they don't simply overhaul or modernize the old railway.
@tymccarthy9661
@tymccarthy9661 8 ай бұрын
I have also wondered what the "L" would be like if it was a roller coaster. If you got on at O'Hare how tall would the lift hill have to be to get you to the Loop? I know the math exsists, if only I knew a Mathematician in real life.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
lol that would be a pretty tall deep!
@Colonel_Kitty
@Colonel_Kitty 8 ай бұрын
Who is manufacturing this?
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I believe they kept the names anonymous
@BenriBea
@BenriBea 8 ай бұрын
if they don't add a loop de loop they're cowards
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Turns out priority seating and loop de loops are mutually exclusive. Who woulda thought.
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA Not _absolutely_ mutually exclusive, provided the train always goes through it fast enough to guarantee 2,5+G in every wheelchair space... ♿🎢🙌😁👌
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 8 ай бұрын
10 Print _„Welcome to the Tokyo Zoo rollercoaster!“_ 20 GoTo 10 😉
@shawnd-v1660
@shawnd-v1660 8 ай бұрын
Oh god it's a worse version of a Tangara. Which makes sense because they were designed in Japan
@LeonCornelll
@LeonCornelll 8 ай бұрын
Train look like Tangara
@JomirBrands
@JomirBrands 8 ай бұрын
Me in RCT2 😂 (I mean it)
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
You should do it!
@JomirBrands
@JomirBrands 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA Already did hahahaha
@CraigFThompson
@CraigFThompson 8 ай бұрын
Such a "roller coaster" exists in Las Vegas, NV....
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been on all the hotel trams in Vegas and they use different technology.
@CraigFThompson
@CraigFThompson 8 ай бұрын
@@Thom-TRA The one connecting the Excalibur hotel to other venues is based on roller coaster technology.
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
@@CraigFThompson close. That tram uses Cable Liner technology. You’re right that it has both top and side wheels to guide it. But it does not have the bottom wheels that roller coasters have.
@repulser93
@repulser93 8 ай бұрын
You grew up in Tokyo? Were your parents military or diplomats?
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Neither
@railfandepotproductions
@railfandepotproductions 8 ай бұрын
*new technology
@Dolcevita_bakes
@Dolcevita_bakes 8 ай бұрын
I don’t know when everyone’s excited about this is absolutely horrible terrible awful and maybe not for humans, but it is for the animals all these people on here claiming to go to zoos because they love Animal so much if you loved animals so much then you wouldn’t go visit them in a concrete prison behind bars, where they don’t belong animals that are wild like this belong in the wild they were kidnapped, and they were dragged into this facility that basically is a glamorized prison for innocent Beings. They don’t deserve it means that and everything indigenous ripped away from them all their natural habitat taken from them and put in a profit, making facility not a rescue not rehabilitation center just a place for people to days and staring at these animals all day long that don’t belong there. Animals are extremely intelligent creatures probably more Simmons at this rate. If they can talk, they would tell you that they don’t want to be there. They’re meant to live in the wild and they were ripped away from their natural habitat. Forced to live in this horrible facility and probably force breeded program so they can make more animals so they can have more animals Concrete presence so they can stare at them more and make more money now to make it worse they’re gonna roller coasters that will literally traumatized these animals even more so because they were allowed so now they get to listen to these horrible roller coasters going around them all day long something they will never ever listen to if they were living, where they were meant to live zoos are disgusting. There are no better than Seaworld. If you loved animals have a boycott this horrible place never visit them ever again shut them down and boycott them. Animals don’t belong in concrete prison zoos!
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Two things: -You clearly don’t know what kind of zoo this is. -You clearly didn’t watch the video, otherwise you would know they’re not actually building a roller coaster. I knew there would be some animal rights “activist” here at some point. Do me a favor: unless you care as much about incarcerated human beings (who don’t get any of the care these animals do), stop bothering me about it. I might go to the zoo today just for you.
@Kafj302
@Kafj302 8 ай бұрын
I am like number 508
@Thom-TRA
@Thom-TRA 8 ай бұрын
Quite the accomplishment
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