A VERY STUPID RANT ABOUT REVIEW

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Daniel Greene

Daniel Greene

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@mms7151
@mms7151 3 жыл бұрын
This rant isn’t grimdark enough.
@tomswiftyphilo2504
@tomswiftyphilo2504 3 жыл бұрын
maybe the rant just isn't for adults
@SparkAce1
@SparkAce1 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously this talk isn't mature enough then
@Colaman112
@Colaman112 3 жыл бұрын
It includes torture (of books). It's definitely grimdark. /s
@DanicaChristin
@DanicaChristin 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😂
@sagitswag1785
@sagitswag1785 3 жыл бұрын
@@Colaman112 but a child did not die so it has no literary value.
@AmandaTheJedi
@AmandaTheJedi 3 жыл бұрын
'Okay, this is not a big deal' Video is 32 minutes long
@jessicamay5598
@jessicamay5598 3 жыл бұрын
Amanda, unrelated but it is your duty to hold Daniel to his promise of reviewing midnight sun, because that is a video the world needs!
@jessi4894
@jessi4894 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel: 10:30 "I'm done!" Me: ...There's 22 minutes left. Are you sure?
@starmoalitiny
@starmoalitiny 8 ай бұрын
@@jessi4894was just about to comment this LOL
@Micktrex
@Micktrex 3 жыл бұрын
The way Daniel physically treats his books is definitely grimdark.
@big_sis_moon
@big_sis_moon 3 жыл бұрын
Read this comment right when he threw Scythe
@carmeldavids8801
@carmeldavids8801 3 жыл бұрын
@@big_sis_moon Same. I just- He's understandably mad, but his books is not where he should be taking that out!
@psykedude
@psykedude 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you were exaggerating at first, then the horror started
@ChristmasLore
@ChristmasLore 3 жыл бұрын
It's just dumb. He's just doing it on purpose. The guy has changed so much. Getting big hasn't been good for him.
@malsummers6515
@malsummers6515 3 жыл бұрын
Successful booktuber privilege imarite?
@seanwade6074
@seanwade6074 3 жыл бұрын
There was no murder in this rant. Therefore, as an adult I cannot take you seriously. Grow up Daniel
@jameskilgour387
@jameskilgour387 3 жыл бұрын
Did you see what he did to those books. Honestly, it might be worse
@GullitaDK
@GullitaDK 3 жыл бұрын
@@jameskilgour387 don't forget that poor plaque.
@alexeng414
@alexeng414 3 жыл бұрын
What about books?
@mfbond13
@mfbond13 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah if I don't see bodies dropping every single second in the content I watch then they don't have any literary value you tell em 😤😤😤 /s
@hcstubbs3290
@hcstubbs3290 3 жыл бұрын
Upvoting because the goblin man told me not to.
@SnakeAndTurtleQigong
@SnakeAndTurtleQigong 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel with his therapist 1 hour later: Need to talk about anything? … No. I’m good.
@Litera_Trotter
@Litera_Trotter 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@braydenmunro2385
@braydenmunro2385 3 жыл бұрын
I hate movies, books and shows that think adult, mature and realistic just means more gore and swearing
@jacobmaxwell8386
@jacobmaxwell8386 3 жыл бұрын
as someone who plays videogames as my my main hobby, I cannot escape. the amount of times I've wanted something that isn't shallow, vapid, over the top violence after tons of reviewers say that its a mature story is overwhelming. Like the amount of people who praise grand theft auto 5 for its torture scenes over its tongue and cheek satire makes me depressed.
@ND-gm2vs
@ND-gm2vs 3 жыл бұрын
I've had this same fucking discussions with my now ex-gf soo many times, for some people the fucked up concept of general target of a story is so fucking engrained in their brain that they can't escape it. Ironically those discussions always ended up with grimdark vibes and attempted murders AND THAT IS A JOKE KIDS THAT STOLE MUM'S IPAD.
@Ghilannugs
@Ghilannugs 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmaxwell8386 is this the time for me to recommend Dragone Age?
@HeavyTopspin
@HeavyTopspin 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot gratuitous nudity! That was a running joke in our house, whenever we were watching a show on a premium cable service and suddenly for no reason bare breasts or butt filled the screen (including the requisite "scene which must take place in a strip club"), we'd yell out "It's not television, it's HBO!"
@Ghilannugs
@Ghilannugs 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeavyTopspin the way Game of thrones permanently damaged the idea of what adult television means
@viniciuscaparroz4444
@viniciuscaparroz4444 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel: gets angry. His books: "(Chuckles) I'm in danger"
@GullitaDK
@GullitaDK 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel : "I👏do👏not👏like👏talking👏to👏people!" Also Daniel: "if you're going to say stupid things, at least have the decency of not making me have to interact with people." 😂🤣 I'm just going to put it out there and say we need more "elitist-asshole"-Daniel in our lives. This rant was fantastic.
@ArolanTheMediocre
@ArolanTheMediocre 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was at this moment that I realized Daniel is my spirit animal.
@jellybuns5041
@jellybuns5041 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you. I've loved reading since I was a kid, but my boyfriend has always hated the idea of reading. I'd try to convince him to pick up a book, but he just wasn't interested. I showed him one of your videos. Something you said must have spoke to him and he decided to pick up The Shining. Well, he finished it and came to me and said, "Books are way better than movies! Being in the character's head is so cool!" He loved it so much, he picked up The Stand. Took him less than a month to finish and he loved it even more. Now, he's dipping his toes into fantasy with Mistborn. I just hope this message brightens your day and reminds you of the good work you do. I tried for a while, but I could never spark my boyfriend's interest with books. He watched maybe 2 of your videos and has seen the light. There are a lot of loud people out there who probably like to make your job annoying, but I hope this brings you joy. My boyfriend and I have our own little book club now and I couldn't have done it without you!
@artistryunicorn928
@artistryunicorn928 3 жыл бұрын
awww that's super sweet! I'm happy for you guys.
@connoromeara3116
@connoromeara3116 3 жыл бұрын
Dang... I wanna know what this video was that sparked his interest so I can watch it (rewatch it?) and hear what Daniel said
@skystopen7458
@skystopen7458 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel, 5 minutes in: that's it, that's the rant Also Daniel: continues ranting for 28 more minutes
@citizensguard3433
@citizensguard3433 3 жыл бұрын
"If you're gonna say stupid things, at least don't make me interact with people!" My favorite quote of the day 😄
@freedoughnut1833
@freedoughnut1833 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not one of those people Daniel is talking about but seeing him screaming at them makes me feel like when you’re at your friend’s house and suddenly they are having a fight with their mom with you just sitting there and listening awkwardly
@anthonycar5182
@anthonycar5182 3 жыл бұрын
Watching it at 2x speed I found really enhanced the comedic quality
@DuonDRaven
@DuonDRaven 3 жыл бұрын
Therapist: "So Daniel how was your morning?" Daniel: "Well I uploaded a 30 minute rant to the internet and beat the shit out of $300 worth of books in the process..." Love this channel XD
@VoorNuNogVerandern
@VoorNuNogVerandern 3 жыл бұрын
But he got that 300 back from the super chats🤣
@cookedghost
@cookedghost 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate title: "How to tell me you're a gatekeeping tryhard without telling me you're a gatekeeping tryhard" Also happy therapy Daniel, it does sound like you need it
@AaronSherman
@AaronSherman 3 жыл бұрын
It's not "real therapy" because it's not grimdark :) Very happy that anyone seeks out therapy when and if they feel it would help. Too many friends who have not done so to varying degrees of drastic outcome.
@lucere3674
@lucere3674 3 жыл бұрын
Daniels friend will never live this down in that friend group. I can already hear the group conversation now. "Remember that time you broke Daniel with a text?"
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm 3 жыл бұрын
True, I find a lot of stories with ridiculous amounts of gore and sexual content are very "edgy teenager angst" rather than actually adult.
@starsun6363
@starsun6363 3 жыл бұрын
*this*
@sirgoo9962
@sirgoo9962 3 жыл бұрын
People with swearing/violent/edgy = adult content opinions give me subduing rates of cringe
@TheRASDEL83
@TheRASDEL83 3 жыл бұрын
I love everything about this... * it's called "Very Stupid Rant" * it starts with " This is NOT a big deal" * at 3:05 the "Murder Murder Murder" is gold * at 13:30 we need this in more reviews of things Daniel does not enjoy * It's 30 min long video of Daniel just venting :P The only thing i don't like about this is that I missed it live :P
@elsv99
@elsv99 3 жыл бұрын
Eh. Its mid trash. Not grim dark enough. 7/10
@glassbakeware
@glassbakeware 3 жыл бұрын
"You made my friend talk to me" 😂
@bensilvers2241
@bensilvers2241 3 жыл бұрын
I love this my friend talked to me I’m angry
@citizensguard3433
@citizensguard3433 3 жыл бұрын
"You made my friend talk to me. Even my friends... I don't want them to text me too much." I have never related to a statement more than this...
@NikkeKretschmer
@NikkeKretschmer 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@teddyberserker
@teddyberserker 3 жыл бұрын
“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” - C.S. Lewis
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 3 жыл бұрын
@@calebmauer1751 He also did sonthing that could e interprented off snarky atheist stuff. Maybe hae was deeper than narnia
@jamesfrederick.
@jamesfrederick. 3 жыл бұрын
Bro that was so good I had to screen shot it
@teddyberserker
@teddyberserker 3 жыл бұрын
@@calebmauer1751 What does his religion have to do with it?
@dunndudebemelol
@dunndudebemelol 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I always think of. It's just silly, it's a desire to be seen as adult.
@alexisdumas84
@alexisdumas84 3 жыл бұрын
@@marocat4749 Judging by the arguments that come out of his "philosophical"/theological books, such as Miracles, he wasn't much deeper than Narnia lol.
@christianjones1889
@christianjones1889 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel: *holds up book* Me: “Don’t do it…” Daniel: *throws book* Me: “You monster!!!” Daniel: *does it again*
@remyblas
@remyblas 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel: *sits down to rant* Book on his shelves: "Oh, no! Not again!"
@RashidMBey
@RashidMBey 3 жыл бұрын
Today, the Greene Goblin has become... the Greene Knight, nuancer of criticism and beacon of genuine appreciation.
@RashidMBey
@RashidMBey 3 жыл бұрын
In all seriousness, I appreciate this rant. It's a lively reminder that all genres are valid and worthy of appreciation on a level that can appeal to all adults. A quality book articulates its points and themes well, and that's something not gated by or from adults or genre.
@vix86
@vix86 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to know why the silver play button has a nice dent in it. Watch this video 🤣
@daedricdragon5976
@daedricdragon5976 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel: "So we're gonna spend a second talking about it." Me: looks at 32 minutes "Let's gooooo"
@bart_ender6116
@bart_ender6116 3 жыл бұрын
The scariest part of this is how many books he is throwing.
@jellevanbreugel325
@jellevanbreugel325 3 жыл бұрын
which is probably the true sign of a mind spiraling out of control.......
@GullitaDK
@GullitaDK 3 жыл бұрын
@@jellevanbreugel325 lol, what? I genuinely hope this is a joke.
@mycenaeangal9312
@mycenaeangal9312 3 жыл бұрын
Someone made a comment about anger management lol. I feel like this was sorta fun angry? Like if Daniel were one of my friends talking specifically to me, I feel like I could diffuse this super easily. It feels non threatening and I think that's very much the key to it remaining amusing. I don't know if most people have experiences with the threatening kind (my upbringing maybe skewed my perspective on what's normal there) but if anyone is confused, I think that's the difference. I think it's also important to note that things you might think are harmless like destruction of property can be pretty scary for the people who live around you so that's important to think about.
@mycenaeangal9312
@mycenaeangal9312 3 жыл бұрын
@Anne Day Mhm. I laughed. I also thought it was a good springboard to talk about the subject. So I did. :)
@lizardlegend42
@lizardlegend42 3 жыл бұрын
I think David Mitchell shows this style of fun angry best.
@mischarowe
@mischarowe 3 жыл бұрын
He was smiling through so much of it so I'm not worried about his anger management.
@oscarbautista4156
@oscarbautista4156 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely hope this was him acting "in character", because if he is actually this childish, then no wonder why (Books with) Brittany friend-zoned him
@JB_exposures
@JB_exposures 3 жыл бұрын
the number of books being thrown genuinely physically hurts me
@Sir_Chimp
@Sir_Chimp 3 жыл бұрын
I was going say the same thing. I was so afraid the covers were going to be torn. 😥
@gurentgc3546
@gurentgc3546 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sir_Chimp this rant was grimdark
@jackc9175
@jackc9175 3 жыл бұрын
Eh let’s be real, Goblin Boi can replace any books he may damage in his vids…
@boryanakasabova5184
@boryanakasabova5184 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and feel that way on a deeply visceral level. I have books on my shelves I've read several times that look brand new. The way he throws books around makes me cringe.
@gurentgc3546
@gurentgc3546 3 жыл бұрын
@@boryanakasabova5184 understandable but those are just books.
@BamadeusTTV
@BamadeusTTV 3 жыл бұрын
Does this rant count as Grimdark by those peoples standards? cause you certainly murdered their argument
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 3 жыл бұрын
Not enough dead orphans.
@aprils9178
@aprils9178 3 жыл бұрын
Idk there is alot of book carnage.
@jarltrippin
@jarltrippin 3 жыл бұрын
First time I've ever heard Daniel drop an F-bomb. It suits him. As entertaining as it is seeing you get riled up like this, it also shows that you truly care about the genre enough to defend it like this. I honestly consider you one of the best things to happen to fantasy in the last ten years.
@michaelcopple1736
@michaelcopple1736 3 жыл бұрын
Literature is an art, not what the reader expects. Yes readers can desire certain things, but the ultimate choice belongs to the writer. If you don't like the damn book because it doesn't meet your expectations, put the thing down and move on to a new book. Daniel is making such a very great point here. It is also pertinent to say, if you don't like what someone is saying, move on. Daniel, your rant is well merited and has some extreme standing for all of us as authors.
@dartagnanjames8069
@dartagnanjames8069 3 жыл бұрын
"Hey, guess how I grew as an adult?" *Holds up One Piece* Hey! Me too :D
@maddu8437
@maddu8437 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the old “no deaths and gore = bad” argument. Personally I have more of a problem with the “this thing is a masterpiece BECAUSE it has a lot of deaths and gore”. Like, no? Just because characters die left and right doesn’t make it good story telling. I’d always prefer a well explained revival or fake-out death to an unnecessary death for shock value.
@pRahvi0
@pRahvi0 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you in this. There are two reasons for explicit depictions of gore or any other "adult content" as far as I know: 1) naturalism, realism, essentially just stylistic choice of leaving things unpolished, which may or may not enhance the themes and characters 2) porn These, of course, are not mutually exclusive. But I'd bet it's 9 times out of 10 just porn, i.e. cheap way to excite the audience, without the insight to really add anything else to the topics it deals with. And even when they do, I'm not a big fan of it. In fact, I often admire creativity in explaining the same things indirectly, in which some of the classics do - sometimes - a very good job. And just for the record, I've seen an unnecessary _revival_ for shock value. It was actually kinda impressing, not the least because I had never seen it before.
@firvantavan2793
@firvantavan2793 3 жыл бұрын
@@pRahvi0 Meh, shock value, death and gore can be entertaining as hell. Dumb deaths are annoying 100% of the time, of course, but that is another issue. Bring on the violence, I say. And don't be stingy on the horrific details 😁 I can't think of one damn example where gore and violence has harmed a good story. ^^
@pRahvi0
@pRahvi0 3 жыл бұрын
@@firvantavan2793 I suppose it's very much a matter of taste, whether or not you like the ugly details shown. I personally do not, most of the time, but I certainly acknowledge their potential. And it's not like I can't stand them at all, I just get a figurative hangover from such content very easily, after which point it _can_ harm my experience of the story.
@firvantavan2793
@firvantavan2793 3 жыл бұрын
@@pRahvi0 Ah, I see. I get what you're saying ^^
@big_sis_moon
@big_sis_moon 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite fantasy stories is the Netflix She-Ra reboot, it has amazing character work. This being a show that is virtually the OPPOSITE of grimdark. Thank you for the defense of lighthearted fantasy! P.S.: I also love grimdark stuff, WH40k is awesome
@tmntaddict
@tmntaddict 3 жыл бұрын
Very general comment: as an adult who loves The NeverEnding Story in book and movie format and who read The Giver in 5th grade, I say read whatever suits your fancy regardless of who it's intended for or if others say not "grimdark" enough.
@faust13301
@faust13301 3 жыл бұрын
Therapist: Show me where the grimdark comments hurt you.
@briancohen-doherty4392
@briancohen-doherty4392 3 жыл бұрын
*** Deeply personal thank you *** Today should have been my 6th wedding anniversary to my soulmate. My true partner throughout all time. Unfortunately she passed away a year and 3 weeks ago. But she got to see me enjoying your content when I started watching over 2 years ago and would often ask what I was laughing about only to hear me describe something you had just said :) She was an educator. Taught kindergarten, was a director for a child care facility... And is the reason the early childhood education program in Oregon was even put in the ballot to be voted on. There was another bill being looked at along with it, and it wasn't certain if either was going to make it. But she was the heart and soul of the company that was working with the minority non-profits of Portland and the school system for years that got it out together in the first place. Her passing put that bill up for vote & it passed. No matter what, millions of lives are going to be changed for the better because of the absolutely amazing human my wife was. And I want you to know that more than once you brought a smile to her face, even while dealing with incredible health challenges while succeeding in actually making this world a better place. And she would be incredibly proud of you right now
@hasanmahmood3155
@hasanmahmood3155 3 жыл бұрын
It's like saying adults can only watch films that are extremely violent lol
@kaylahouvenagle3866
@kaylahouvenagle3866 3 жыл бұрын
And many adults straight up don't like it... Which they ignore
@herbertthornton4476
@herbertthornton4476 3 жыл бұрын
Most GrimDark authors learned from the pros who weren't dark. Having Said that, the Brothers Grimm fairy tales are much darker thank Disney stuff
@pedrosernagiotto2577
@pedrosernagiotto2577 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel 5 minutes in: "So that's the rant" Me: "Huh, that was fast" *looks at the video timer, and see 25 minutes left*
@kayyoung3187
@kayyoung3187 3 жыл бұрын
Hey also some adults have PTSD and maybe they don’t have a good time reading Grimdark. That doesn’t make us non adults lol. I love watching reviews/discussions of Grimdark material so I can get some of the story without having a panic attack. But for real. Don’t insult people who want to have a good time reading a book even if it’s not your favorite genre.
@colina2768
@colina2768 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same thing. I would get panic attacks when reading Prince of Thorns and the First Law. It was hard for me to read about a world where it feels like there are no good people and the world has no hope. It just burned me out. After therapy I was able to read First Law but Prince of Fools still makes me uneasy.
@bishop_breloom
@bishop_breloom 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel I must thank you. You have taught me both through this rant and other videos that the most important thing to understand about literature is that everyone has their own taste and opinions, but those opinions don’t make my thoughts and opinions invalid. Thank you. Also thank you for introducing me to Discworld.
@Space_vampire45
@Space_vampire45 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel coming in with a belt must have exited somebody. not me
@charleypatterson9956
@charleypatterson9956 3 жыл бұрын
Right?! We need more of that.
@-lgoonareternall-3772
@-lgoonareternall-3772 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me neither
@atharvadeshpande4749
@atharvadeshpande4749 3 жыл бұрын
definitely not me
@joelleblanc8670
@joelleblanc8670 3 жыл бұрын
The content I need in my life
@Kasterwill
@Kasterwill 3 жыл бұрын
No comment
@Tinahgirl83
@Tinahgirl83 3 жыл бұрын
For myself, I read primarily for entertainment, but I am entertained by learning something, if that makes sense. I love classics, and I’m finally dipping my toe into sci-fi. I also enjoy fantasy, classic mysteries, middle grade and literary fiction. I find these things entertaining because I learn so much about human nature and humanity from reading them. I don’t know if this makes any sense. I think you can be educated and entertained at the same time, but our educational systems don’t teach us how to do that. They introduce things to us as though they are too complicated for us to understand or enjoy, which is off-putting.
@GlitchToph
@GlitchToph 3 жыл бұрын
I get what you mean, and I feel the same. The entertainment part I feel is more applied to authoritorial intent rather than your own, kinda. Marvel movies for the easy example like Daniel said, they're made and watched for entertainment purposes,... ...but The Green Knight (again, easy quick example) does not seek your entertainment, it wants to tell a different kind of story that won't try to keep you engaged by a regular stream of dopamine. You finding entertaining something that's not trying to be that (in this context) says a lot of good about your literary taste.
@mroloff
@mroloff 3 жыл бұрын
Your book abuse is Grimm Dark. I cried just a little with each throw. Besides the damage to my psyche your book maltreatment has caused, you are spot on.
@the_arora804
@the_arora804 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree with the education system thing. I got lucky in that I actually really enjoyed books like Macbeth, Lord of the Flies, Brave New World, and especially To Kill a Mockingbird, but I think literally all my friends suffered through the English classes when trying to answer the quintessential high school English class question of “what’s the deeper meaning here?” After freshman year, I can count on one hand people I knew who actually liked reading after that. I don’t think there’s anything particularly wrong with the exploration of themes, characters, and values that many school systems employ, but as Daniel said, there is absolutely no distinction between what you read for enjoyment, and what you read to learn about times, topics, themes, values, viewpoints, and subjects often times different than your own. Unless you get that one top tier teacher who understands what you’re going through, of course, but that’s not a reliable model to follow. EDIT: Small changes for clarity.
@tmntaddict
@tmntaddict 3 жыл бұрын
My 12-grade English teacher was OBSESSED with symbolism & we hated it. I also hated All Quiet on the Western Front.
@the_arora804
@the_arora804 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmntaddict Yeah I think focusing on analysis based on literary devices only tells half the story. The other half if the characters, the people you read about, or the people you literally experience while reading the book, and I think a lot of high school classes miss that point. I'm fairly certain it's because it's far simpler to write papers based on very well, almost rigidly defined concepts. On another note, I used to be a real ra-ra "war is a glorious journey!" kinda guy. The whole, kids went off to fight in 1914 cause they thought it would a "grand adventure". Then I read All Quiet on the Western Front. It really opened my eyes to the personal experience of war and what it does to all unfortunate enough to get caught up in it. I completely understand not liking the book though, it's not everyone's favorite cup of tea, and that's okay.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 3 жыл бұрын
@@the_arora804 Its interesting thats its from a german ww1 soldier describing the horror of wars and alienation and ptsd. I dont think it is meant to be pleasent and at best have gallows humor. Its probably still highly value if you hate it, but the teacher probably wasnt good at explaining its that, a ww1 veteran describing war and why its not good nor glorious and super damaging soldiers. And that htler even banned it because , well. Which should be the main point not symbolism.
@the_arora804
@the_arora804 3 жыл бұрын
@@marocat4749 Yeah, I can't speak to anyone else's experience with the book, but the book undoubtedly teaches some valuable lessons and has a very relevant message. Personally, I saw it in one of the classrooms and asked my teacher if I could borrow it because it seemed like an interesting book.
@tmntaddict
@tmntaddict 3 жыл бұрын
@@the_arora804 For me it's being force-fed books. I'm sure for many being force-fed anything doesn't work, but the strict impression I got in high school which may never really change was "we are requiring you to ingest the meanings of these stories which you will be graded on. Now do it!" School systems need to be taught flexibility with how students learn from literature. Even now, +20 yrs later, I still don't know if I'd re-read Grapes of Wrath, All Quiet, whatever else there was. I think I only mildly enjoyed the greek mythology since there was no deep meaning to pick apart.
@devildriverrule111
@devildriverrule111 3 жыл бұрын
This rant was pretty YA, it didn't remind me of a cannibal corpse album cover.
@thecompanion9657
@thecompanion9657 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, he sums up everything wrong with literary criticism since 1920. Bootiful.
@poodlemuffin
@poodlemuffin 3 жыл бұрын
Largely agree, but in respect of art films like the Green Knight, if they don’t want people to review them badly for not being “entertaining”, they shouldn’t market themselves as “entertainment “. For example, don’t put out a trailer that makes your film look like an action movie if you don’t want a disappointed reaction from action movie fans.
@claytonkoff7893
@claytonkoff7893 3 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. The Joker for instance is an Art film not an action movie but was marketed as such and a lot of people Review bombed it because of that.
@BlackXSunlight
@BlackXSunlight 3 жыл бұрын
Hard disagree. The team behind marketing strategies and editing trailers are 99% of the time completely separate from the big brains that birthed the piece.
@newdawn3301
@newdawn3301 3 жыл бұрын
I just love this guy his honesty holy shit and his energy is fun as fuck
@holdenhenderson8550
@holdenhenderson8550 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel! I teach English 9 and I agree with your point about not explaining to students that a text can be more than just for enjoyment. This is something that I have tried to get across to my students in the past, but because of your rant I will make sure to add extra emphasis to this point. I'm introducing the novels for this quarter to my classes this coming week and will make sure to spend time explaining this. Thank you!
@dougiethompson2822
@dougiethompson2822 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel: I need to do a rant Subscribers: Here is $100+ randomly
@jacobyoung9981
@jacobyoung9981 3 жыл бұрын
I was scrolling through the comments at the very end of the video only half paying attention to what Daniel was saying only to hear him shout “Jacob you have an assignment!” Thanks for the ptsd from all those times I procrastinated in school. Definitely needed that 😂
@deborahmadison6670
@deborahmadison6670 3 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how literally every talk ever can be for kids or adults depending on how it is broached… so like yes… rubbish. You are correct Daniel
@avataraarow
@avataraarow 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I find most grimdark far less nuanced and intellectually interesting than most non-grimdark works. There are lots of grim dark stories that are extremely nuanced and interesting, but a lot of them that I’ve read tend to end up being just a bunch of half baked nihilism to appeal to edgy teenagers
@thexyayxmaker
@thexyayxmaker 3 жыл бұрын
Found Daniel this year. He’s now very precious to me and needs to be protected! Thank you for giving me a laugh and good insights.
@ladyhoratia1709
@ladyhoratia1709 3 жыл бұрын
i appreciate you saying this because I read a lot of different genres including YA and hearing people say that's not "real" makes me feel bad. thank you for making this
@JamesI88
@JamesI88 3 жыл бұрын
I love a lot of classics even if I'm not "entertained" by them the same way I am with more modern books. I change my expectations and my perspective when reading classics and can always take away a lot of positive things from them, even if the premise or plot wouldnt be something I'd normally seek out l. Classic for a reason, I've learned.
@KMMHealy
@KMMHealy 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t even get me started on university level literary theory and gatekeeping through obtuse language. 🙄 Great rant! Thank you for the initial heart attack because I’m a new subscriber (with ADHD) and sometimes comment impulsively. 😅
@holybathook
@holybathook 3 жыл бұрын
Commentor: "I'm late whats going on?" Disheveled Goblin: "I'm yelling, I threw books, I damaged my youtuber play button."
@noamcohen7124
@noamcohen7124 3 жыл бұрын
Best instructions to a story i have ever seen
@h.c.8731
@h.c.8731 3 жыл бұрын
One of the main things we are taught as historians is that we can only look at, use, and/or critic something for its *intended purpose.* Always critic something for *what it is,* never for what it *isn’t* or what you *wish it were.* (Speaking to your rant on people’s critiques about the Green Night not being an entertaining movie, when that’s not its purpose.)
@soualexander6532
@soualexander6532 3 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time Daniel says "That's the rant!" as if it's over and you'll be drunk by the halfway point
@waltcruz1631
@waltcruz1631 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel: I’m about to say my piece Me: my one piece badum tsshh
@mikelegault9344
@mikelegault9344 3 жыл бұрын
“That’s the rant.” *checks timer* 25 minutes left.
@zopiranha3871
@zopiranha3871 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of anime fans who think that a lot of murder makes the anime 'deep' and 'dark'. Like bro, it's edgy.
@tygerchase9705
@tygerchase9705 3 жыл бұрын
I actually find that it's the other way around, it's happened quite a few times that people have downplayed great manga or anime by calling it 'edgy' I've heard it more than once in reference to Berserk or the Tokyo ghoul manga.
@IHaveNoFockinJeans
@IHaveNoFockinJeans 3 жыл бұрын
@@tygerchase9705 I liked some of Tokyo ghoul, but the amount of fighting in it irked me. I wished it would’ve explored some of the characters more when not in their heads in the midst of combat. Granted those scenes and episodes we’re good, I just wished for a bit more balance between fighting and more peaceful-ish exploration of character
@luqmanhakim6869
@luqmanhakim6869 3 жыл бұрын
Yoo what are those anime please?? I need to watch it and decide if it's dark enough
@IHaveNoFockinJeans
@IHaveNoFockinJeans 3 жыл бұрын
@@luqmanhakim6869 I haven’t seen berserk, I watched Tokyo ghoul on a pirating site but I think it’s on crunchy roll. Another one that’s on the darker side is devil man crybaby which is on Netflix
@KaiMFS
@KaiMFS 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you totally called it. I stopped reading in high school because I they gave me a slew of books I hated without context, like The Great Gatsby. I still dislike that book, and that was actually the one that made me walk away. In the beginning I liked what they were giving me, like Animal Farm and Of Mice and Men, but later in high school I was turned off to reading fiction. Now I'm a sci-fi author. The universe is crazy.
@cvs_en
@cvs_en 3 жыл бұрын
People ,forget that we have some ratings/genres to keep kids out of stuff that may or may not be too much for them. Everything is for adults=)) including Dora the explorer if you're into that shit
@senseimatt3097
@senseimatt3097 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel's therapist: You seem awful calm today... was today a little different than other days? Daniel: I, uh, let it out today.
@linnetwiddershins1983
@linnetwiddershins1983 3 жыл бұрын
“beCAUSE THERE IS NO MURDER, MURDDER, MURTHERRR!” *flailing intensifies*
@rachelb751
@rachelb751 3 жыл бұрын
I took two literature courses in college and it changed how I look at literature. I like the entertainment value but it usually goes deeper than that. I'm also lucky enough to have a friend on the same page were we buddy read and discuss the novels we read. My current favorite it Interview with the Vampire commenting on the human condition.
@ayajade6683
@ayajade6683 3 жыл бұрын
The books also have great commentary on sexuality at least before it goes off the rails
@EssentialTomodachi
@EssentialTomodachi 3 жыл бұрын
You really came in with some heavy energy with that belt. "I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed."
@V1zharan
@V1zharan 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in a weird spot where I LOVE video essays that dissect movies/shows/books and dig into subtext and themes. But, I almost never am able to see all of that deeper stuff as I'm experiencing new media for myself. I would say I go to media for entertainment, and them enjoy seeing what other people get out of it that totally went under the radar for me.
@cifge_404
@cifge_404 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought I would find some rando booknerd on YT coming unglued to be so funny but I did 😂😂
@ajinkyakhanzode890
@ajinkyakhanzode890 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished The Great Hunt. Such a huge step ahead of eye of the world for me and I really loved eye of the world!!! I know it's unrelated just couldn't hold it in I absolutely loved that book.
@tdpod6109
@tdpod6109 3 жыл бұрын
Saying something is not grimdark enough is like a horror fan saying if it doesn't have gratuitous torture then it's not good. Like. Jaynzus Crimbles. Dood.
@michaelvcelentano
@michaelvcelentano 3 жыл бұрын
I’m convinced that people who get like that are people who don’t like the idea of learning to be a better person through reading between the lines of literary allegory. Terry Pratchett’s books make you a better person, good grim dark even makes you face the cruelty of people so that we can recognize it in reality and avoid/fix it.
@TheNerdLounge
@TheNerdLounge 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel throwing books hurts my soul every single time...
@amitnagpal1985
@amitnagpal1985 3 жыл бұрын
Door behind a wardrobe that leads to a cold place with an evil witch and time dilation is also grimdark. An adult man with a snake’s nose who is obsessed with high schoolers is also grimdark. Daniel Greene making this 30 minute video about a non-issue because iphone 13 comes out next month is also grimdark.
@vortex_user2504
@vortex_user2504 3 жыл бұрын
I'm worried what your therapy was like right after this
@ryan1840
@ryan1840 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being the friend that made him post this rant saying he doesn't like talking to people
@cheese6575
@cheese6575 3 жыл бұрын
I like that even immediately following your rant, you were still respectful in how you disagreed with the commenter at 11:50 . I hope your day proves to be better than it started out :)
@alang8071
@alang8071 3 жыл бұрын
I heard something different at 3:45
@marijavancina9991
@marijavancina9991 3 жыл бұрын
The thing with education system is also that a lot of the time they are trying to make us read things that are not meant for the age group. I didn't enjoy it or understand the deeper meaning when I was 14. Some of those books are my favorites right now. Making us read those books without explaining a lot of things you can learn and observe from them when we're 14 turns a lot of people off from reading.
@krle24
@krle24 3 жыл бұрын
"I want you to think before posting a comment" Proceeds to record himself having a mental breakdown over yt comments. My man, you need to rest 😂
@FirstFallSnow
@FirstFallSnow 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope the friend who texted him doesn't see this.
@brexthompson
@brexthompson 3 жыл бұрын
my tldw of this is don't disregard something because it isn't in grimdark also articulate your opinions when criticizing something and analyze it if it's coming from your personal tastes and not from the actual quality of the artwork and what it's trying to achieve
@Evilanious
@Evilanious 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes people conflate 'mature' with 'not suitable for kids'.
@FlyteDanny
@FlyteDanny 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus, I need more "elitist asshole" breakdowns like these. Definitely grimdark
@jackwriter1908
@jackwriter1908 3 жыл бұрын
Going to the Restaurant and getting the Notification _A Very Stupid Rant_ from Daniel Greene, I thought „Damm it! Daniel Livestreams and I can't see it.“ Coming back from the Restaurant going directly to KZbin to see _A Very Stupid Rant_ uploaded 5 minutes ago, I think „Damm it! Why can't Daniel rant longer?! 30 minutes isn't enough!“ Thinking that you need Murder to be for adults is a rather strange thing to say anyway, because I would definetly not watch _Greys of Anatomy_ as a 10 year old child... Not that I watch it now, but I needed an example.
@corvusalbus7276
@corvusalbus7276 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel throwing his books gave me anxiety...don't hurt them; it's not their fault that people are stupid.
@NerdyPunk93
@NerdyPunk93 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend the stage musical version of the Hunchback of Notre Dame - same dope soundtrack (with extra dope af music) but it’s closer to the original story.
@sdstarr01
@sdstarr01 3 жыл бұрын
The only book that’s really grim dark enough is All Quiet on the Western Front.
@Bazscoobz
@Bazscoobz 3 жыл бұрын
Your thoughts on education system failing is so true. In high school my art teacher was a painter, that was his medium. My medium of choice was pencils. Instead of helping cultivate and enhance my skills with that medium i was forced to adopt painting for the exam portfolio pieces due to what i believe was not only a bias from my teacher but also from the examination board itself who apparently wouldnt give out high marks for anything that wasnt acrylic paints and it killed the class for me.
@azazelreeds
@azazelreeds 3 жыл бұрын
Oh this started out about grimdark? I dropped in when the rant turned into being about shallow reviews in general lol
@cakes_lollies9948
@cakes_lollies9948 3 жыл бұрын
I’m going to be honest. I’m so glad your called out the stuck up assholes that think they are better than others for this. Idec why you did this I’m just glad. Some people need to get that stick out of their asses.
@havokix
@havokix 3 жыл бұрын
Roid rage from the CrossFit 😂. Just joking, I feel the rant rage too, though I honestly had similar regressive thoughts to those dopes commenting those stupid comments, when One Piece started on the channel and told myself "dude you watch Avatar, read the hobbit and listen to The Barenaked Ladies, who you to do judge", and after your latest One Piece review I'm gonna get into the series. Seeing how much it affected you, giving you the feels, I'm like yes please, emotions please.
@rikkebay8548
@rikkebay8548 3 жыл бұрын
Me not knowing what grimdark was until now bc I had to look it up to understand what the rant was about 😅
@OtaconUCF
@OtaconUCF 3 жыл бұрын
Shit man, I've seen straight-faced comments that stuff like WoT or Stormlight are PG, I guess because Jordan/Sanderson don't go into enough graphic detail with the violence or sex. It's baffling.
@clairegetscrafty
@clairegetscrafty 3 жыл бұрын
This gets my goat every time!! I cannot comprehend people so desensitized from reading explicitly detailed graphic sex&murder that the nuance involved in crafting something as absolutely horrifying as maichin shin (to use a specific WoT reference) completely passes them over.
@ryguy845
@ryguy845 3 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to see a full video about 15:54. I struggle trying to convince my friends to read, and this is articulated very well.
@rat1223
@rat1223 3 жыл бұрын
"Some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again." -C.S. Lewis
@EssentialTomodachi
@EssentialTomodachi 3 жыл бұрын
The distinction between art and entertainment is really useful. I also think it's interesting that in some cases the two can each influence a viewer's perception of the other. Like as a creator I can look at a book and try to acknowledge that the story idea and themes were really good and normally would appeal to me, but the author's execution of craft is sapping my enjoyment by handing me some delicious ice cream in a leaky bowl. Or maybe a movie breaks a lot of "rules" of cinema but the story and voice of the movie are so chaotic and fun that the bad craft elements either fade into the background or somehow fit the vibe of the movie.
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