A Zigbee Hub - With Matter & Thread?? The ZemiSmart M1...

[@simplelifesg3459]

Thanks for the review . One question - I presently have several Tuya Zigbee devices already setup on a Tuya Zigbee hub in the Smart Life app. Would I need to re-setup every device so that I can use them with the Zemismart M1 hub and HomeKit ? Thanks in advance.

[@homekitnews]

Hi, unless there’s an option in the Smart Life app to replace one hub with another in one sweep, you would have to add them individually to the new hub.

[@nova730]

I bought Zemismart M1 matter hub. And want to see if it is compatible to any zigbee devices. I have two Zigbee 3.0 devices, Sonoff Human presence sensor SNZB-06P and ZBMINI Smart switch. both of them are not compatible or I can't manage to pair. Does anyone try to connect any zigbee 3.0 devices?

[@The-Cat]

This is the problem with smart home shit. They claim compatibility so you buy it and then yta find out it's only compatible with newer shit. Super annoying

[@homekitnews]

@The-Cat could you provide an example of this that happened to you? I’m curious as to what happened.

[@tzetv]

I have this working with Clipsal wiser mechs (zigbee) however frequently have the matter devices disappear from HomeKit. Anyone know how to stop this?

[@tzetv]

Has anyone tried this with Clipsal Wiser Dimmer mech into HomeKit?

[@videonisse1]

Interesting! Does anyone know which SoC the ZemiSmart M1 uses?

[@Max86421]

Matter smart devices save Apple HomeKit 💯

[@MiguelAngeloDornaes]

Pelo o que pude ver nas especificações técnicas, o modelo com bateria tem a mesma força que o modelo que utiliza fio, 1 NM o que muda é a velocidade em RPM ( rotações por minuto ) e também wats de consumo. Você encontrou a informação que o motor com bateria é menos potente ?

[@homekitnews]

Hi, even though they both have the same torque, the rated power on the battery version is listed as 5W compared to 12W for the wired model.

[@joaovaloisef]

É possível comectar o Hub (bateria, Powerbank, etc.)?

[@homekitnews]

It’s possible, but not a good idea.

[@BYangH2Biology]

can it work in reverse bringing any homekit devices (not just matter) into smartlife?

[@homekitnews]

@@BYangH2Biology no, as the Smartlife app isn’t a HomeKit compatible app.

[@BYangH2Biology]

@@homekitnews thanks for the quick update.

[@viniciusgf]

can I use Alexa Echo Show as a Matter Controller to add the device to homekit? Or do I still need to buy an Apple TV or Homepod to work with homekit?

[@homekitnews]

Each Matter ecosystem requires its own Matter Controller, so if you want to add any Matter device to Apple HomeKit you would need an Apple Matter controller.

[@shellking41]

Hi, soo if i want to use the nanoleaf lamps i need an matter hub , like this? If i pluged in the zemismart m1 than the thread network will work? Or i need another divice also?

[@homekitnews]

If you want to use Nanoleaf lighting products that use Matter (Thread or WiFi) with the Tuya platform, you can use this hub to do so. If you want to add the Nanoleaf lights to additional platforms, you should still be able to use this hub as a Thread Border Router, but you would still need a Matter controller for those additional platforms.

[@leryeo]

will it work with the blind driver by zemismart?

[@homekitnews]

As long as that driver uses Zigbee or Thread, then yes it will work.

[@leryeo]

@@homekitnews if I was just to buy the zigbee hub, would it be better to plug in the hub near my router or I can plug it in from another room?

[@homekitnews]

@ it requires Ethernet, so as long as you have an Ethernet port in one of your rooms (connected to your router) then it shouldn’t matter. However, the hub needs to be within Zigbee range of your blinds.

[@leryeo]

@@homekitnews I wish to buy the roller driver and E1 hub from Aqara. The blind is on the 2nd floor so I'm not sure where the optimal place to plug in the E1 hub? The router is on the ground floor.

[@homekitnews]

@ the ZemiSmart roller driver will not work with the Aqara E1 hub.

[@mikaildewadaru]

so does it mean if I have Apple Homekit ecosystem and I want to control my devices on samsung phone as well, I can use this hub? I use aqara on my homekit , and my aqara hub is matter enable. I still confused in what functionality of this hub. I try to add my aqara hub matter qr code to samsung phone (smartthings app) but it says I need hub to use matter device.

[@homekitnews]

This gateway is primarily designed to provide the role of Matter Controller,,along with a Thread Border for the Tuya ecosystem. it’s also a Matter enabled Zigbee Hub, so Tuya or ZemiSmart certified Zigbee devices that are added to this hub, will also be exposed to other platforms if you add the hub to those platforms using Matter. You need a Matter Controller to be able to use this hub with SmartThings. You need a Matter Controller as part of your SmartThings setup in order to add any Matter devices. The SmartThings Station is a Matter Controller, amongst other things, and the latest SmartThings Aeotec hub should have an update to make it a Matter Controller. It can seem complicated, but if you don’t understand, feel free to ask more questions.

[@Kozaki1]

nice to meet you! If I use this hub, can I use HomeKit to control Tuya compatible devices other than Zemismart products?

[@homekitnews]

Hi, any devices that work with this hub need to meet 3 basic criteria - they’re Zigbee devices, they are Tuya ‘certified’, and they belong to a device category that is supported by HomeKit or Matter.

[@vnckd5504]

How can i know the Tuya ‘certified’ and they belong to device category that is supported by HomeKit? @@homekitnews

[@homekitnews]

Tuya Certified devices will show as such on the packaging. As for supported categories, Apple shows on their website which categories are currently supported, but if you want to know about a specific category, you can ask me if you want.

[@Itshaysus]

Can i pair my tuya wifi to it, or only zigbee?

[@homekitnews]

WiFi devices don’t need a hub, but if they’re Tuya Matter devices, then a hub like this would be required for use with the Tuya platform, as Matter devices need a Matter controller for each platform they work on.

[@berniesmith3092]

Is it me or is this all quite hard? With a home that is uses Alexa and Lightwave as well as Tuya devices, getting something so they all be used through Alexa seems impossible. Will this device enable me to use the Tuya wall lighting touchscreens? but I assume not a chance with the lightwave and alex yet?

[@berniesmith3092]

I spent a load of money on a homey but then they dropped the lightwave integration so I got rid of it, perhaps I need to revisit that?

[@homekitnews]

Hi, if the Tuya touchscreen is ‘Tuya Certified’, ZemiSmart state it will work with this hub. I don’t use Alexa, but I assume that features beyond the basic switch function will not be exposed directly to Alexa, so setup for other devices to be controlled through the switch (curtain motors, fans etc) would have to be set up in the Tuya app first. The hub uses Matter, but if the switches aren’t supported in Alexa this way, you can still add the hub using the old ‘skills’ method, which connects your Tuya account to your Amazon Alexa account. As regards LightWave, I assumed they work with Alexa, but only through their own Lightwave bridge.

[@stuartdole6644]

I have a "Threadless" home - older Apple HomePods and TV - and need a Thread Border Router to control new NanoLeaf bulbs - which require Thread. So far - a couple of days - I haven't been able to setup a Thread network with this thing. Using the "Smart Home" app that gets loaded from the QR code in the instructions, I can get a page that shows the hub as working. But trying to add a NanoLeaf bulb I get the "Thread Border Router Required" message. So - is this NOT a border router after all? If it is, I'm now clueless as to how to enable that. Sigh.

[@homekitnews]

Hi, it definitely has a Thread Border Router, but let me look into it further and get back to you. I don’t have it set up at present, but I’ll do some tests and let you know. Just one question - are the Nanoleaf bulbs HomeKit over Thread or Matter over Thread?

[@stuartdole6644]

@@homekitnews Hi - thanks! The new bulbs are replacing older NanoLeafs that are before Thread - only WiFi and BlueTooth - that seem to have failing power supplies. The new bulbs are Thread only - no WiFI? - and the box says "Matter Smart Bulb". So I'd guess it's Matter over Thread. (I can access the new bulb and control it with the "Leaf" app over BlueTooth, but can't add it to HomeKit/Apple Home - runs into the "Thread Border Router Required" message.) (I also get that funny message about the door lock, even after the firmware update.)

[@homekitnews]

@@stuartdole6644 ok, so the bulbs are Matter over Thread, so that’s good. Are you trying to add the bulbs directly into the Home app? Have you added the ZemiSmart hub to HomeKit too?

[@stuartdole6644]

@@homekitnews Hi again - I *think* I added the hub into HomeKit - I added the room where it will live, then boinked the "+", and scanned the QR code for the hub - HomeKit thinks it's a "bridge", which seems hopeful. It doesn't show in the room in HomeKit's room view. And adding a bulb, it doesn't see the Thread Border Router and fails. Or maybe the border routing isn't active in the first place? The "Smart Home" app shows the basic M1 router, but adding a sub-device fails - the app seems to get stuck. Sigh. Time to cook dinner...

[@homekitnews]

@stuartdole6644 ok, the M1 is indeed a bridge, but the Apple Home app won’t show it in the room, which is normal. If you want to double check that it’s definitely there, on the main Screen of the Home app, tap the circle in the top left corner with three dots, then select Home Settings, and from there select Home Hubs & Bridges, and it should be listed in the room you chose. Assuming the Thread Border Router function in the M1 is up to the current Thread spec, it should be accessible for use within Apple Home, but I’ll look into this further and get back to you.

[@calvincai5628]

Can you please tell how can I add this hub to smartthings?

[@homekitnews]

Which SmartThings hub do you have?

[@calvincai5628]

@@homekitnews 2015 v2. Do I need buy a samrtthings station before I can add it?

[@homekitnews]

@calvincai5628 assuming the hub you have is capable of working with Matter or updated to do so, you should simply need to add it via the SmartThings app and scan the Matter QR code.

[@calvincai5628]

@@homekitnews error code 39-517

[@williampennjr.4448]

must have been updated because Amazon now does support zigbee.

[@willito6969]

Can I replace a zemismart hub for a matter zemismart hub?

[@homekitnews]

Generally speaking, yes. It ultimately depends on what your plans are, so if you can tell me, I might be able to give you a more detailed answer.

[@willito6969]

@@homekitnews thanks! I want to connect zemismart switches using zemismart matter hub instead of zemismart hub, so in the future I can connect more matter products

[@homekitnews]

@@willito6969 the new Matter gateway still uses Zigbee, so you should have no issues adding ZemiSmart Zigbee switches and other devices to the hub via the Tuya app. If you’re using Apple Home, just be aware that some device categories are still not fully supported, but generally speaking, as long as the devices are Tuya certified or ZemiSmart’s own brand, you should be ok, with regard to exposing them to HomeKit.

[@willito6969]

@@homekitnews nice! I actually only use apple homekit! Is the best 😊

[@willito6969]

@@homekitnews really appreciate your answer, have a good one

[@Liquid_Snake]

Samsung Station still nowhere to be found in EU, come on Samsung, just take my money! :

[@nefariou5]

Shame it's not poe edit: sucks that it doesn't work with amazon alexa. hope you do an update if it changes

[@homekitnews]

I’ll check for you later regarding Amazon support, and let you know here.

[@joaovaloisef]

The Matter scenario is dead. No updates Limited support or no products. It promised integration with "everything" but that is not the reality.

[@calvincai5628]

Hi, I successfully added the m1 hub to Smartthings. However, the sub-decides connected to m1 are not shown in smartthings. May I please ask do you know what’s wrong? Thanks

[@homekitnews]

Which devices are they, and what brand/kind are they - Zigbee, Thread or something else?

[@calvincai5628]

@@homekitnews they are all Tuya Zigbee device such as two gang scene switches, motion sensors.

[@homekitnews]

@calvincai5628 the first question then is, did you add the hub using Matter? Additionally, it might be hard to tell if you don’t have the packaging for any of these devices, but only ZemiSmart and “Tuya certified” Zigbee devices will be exposed to some platforms. If any of these devices are ZemiSmart, it’s possible that SmartThings doesn’t support the particular category via Matter yet. I know that wireless buttons/switches are not supported by Matter at present.

[@sojirou]

I have a similar issue with this hub and the Zemismart 4 gang scene switch which had worked with their HomeKit hub i.e. switches not exposed to HomeKit. After some searching on their shop, I noticed they list the wall switch as one of the supported devices but not the scene switch. So maybe support will be there in time.