A Zionist Jewish Rabbi's Perspective on the War in Israel-Palestine: Rabbi Hanan Schlesinger

[@chad_stew]

I'm so thankful for all of the interviews provided by Preston on this topic. I have not seen anyone else offer such balance, breadth and depth.

[@moyergirl4886]

I am thrilled to have something so profound, educational and compassionate to share on social media. Thank you both!

[@MarikaMoonPie]

I am glad I landed on this video. It has been very confusing for me because everyone wants to take a side and only want to share one side of stories and not listening to the other side. Which didn't make any sense to me. I am glad to find people who can listen and see views of both sides equally. We need more people like him to move forward to end this conflict. I think if we can sit and talk and listen to each other without any violence it would be win win for both sides. Thank you Preston for the hosting.

[@lbamusic]

An Iranian friend of mine told me that there were about 100,000 Jews living in Iran in the 1930-40s, next door to his town. They have never left but the community has grown smaller as Elders have passed away, and some younger Jews have moved away.

[@lordfedjoe]

And those Jews are Persian Jews. But now they have all moved to Palestine to claim the land. Jew is a religion, just like anyone can be Jews. Just like anyone can be Christians. There are Jewsish Arab same as Jewish Europe and Africa.

[@GrannyRalls]

Yet, Israel's the only place that claiming you're a Jew gets you free land to settle some of which already have homes on them including homes that belong to Palestinians but no worries! The IDF has settlers backs, provides them with arms and in fact many settlers are in the IDF.

[@GrannyRalls]

No comments allowed?

[@lrwsf1]

Not European Jews

[@blakewidmer]

Thank you so much Preston, you continue to find and give platform to voices we rarely hear. Bless you! This was so helpful and hopeful to me. I just listend to "On Palestine" by Israeli historian Ilan Pappe along with famous Jewish American intellectual and MIT professor, Noam Chomsky. Wow, so enlightening. We must shift from the "fool's gold mirage of a '2 State solution" and in earnest recognize that the only path forward is a "single state from the river to the sea" that provides equal dignity and rights for all of its citizens, regardless of religion, ethnicity or language. Yes it is messy, but reconiliation and sharing with our fellow humans has never been easy. But it is worth it. My Rabbi said "it is better to give than to receive"

[@westyso.cal.8842]

“All of it’s citizens?” Yes, a very tall order indeed. I am genuinely curious if there is the expectation that Jews are included and welcomed in a future “state” in the eyes of the Palestinians.

[@blakewidmer]

@@westyso.cal.8842 yes a tall order indeed. it's what should have happened from the beginning. politics and world war 1 really created unique factors. anyways, from the most thoughtful voices I've heard from stakeholders, yes, both jews, muslims, christians and even atheists (who live in the land) should be welcome as citizens. asking for a 1 state solution, from those that I understand at least, is not a request to "rid the land of the jews" but rather for all image bearers of God to be given equal rights and dignity in a state that does not bias or treat better persons of an ethnic or religious identity.

[@westyso.cal.8842]

@@blakewidmer Sounds wonderful. Almost how the Bible describes the “New Jerusalem” and the 1000 year millennial reign of Christ upon the earth. May His Kingdom come. 👑

[@greendude27]

amen!

[@shoshanakirya-ziraba8216]

That the people who, according to polls, still think October 7th attack was a good are going to give a Jewish minority democracy.

[@jenna2431]

What about 4,000 CHILDREN murdered by the IDF? What did they do?

[@GrannyRalls]

Can't believe since you posted your comment the number of verified child deaths is over 15K and that's not including the thousands missing & assumed dead under the rubble. There will be costs & consequences to our entire humanity for decades to come as a result of our not being able to stop this Zionist cult that we in America allowed to commit this genocidal ethnic cleansing that we've supported since 1948. Sickening.

[@briannes.5943]

Okay here we go. I really like this balanced approach and perspective, it helps people understand that there are two reasonable perspectives on the different sides. But I don't think there is any legitimacy to taking land from people because of your beliefs and identity tying your ancestors there. This all happening mostly in the 20th century is baffling to me. Borders existed. Centuries of family history in the land. And if it had all ended with Jewish people legitimately buying land in Palestine because they felt tied to the land and were going home, fine, but that's not how it happened. It became occupation, colonization, displacement, abuse, murder. So while I think there is a lot of balance in this conversation and it is helpful to learn about these perspectives, it is also extremely important to see that a person's belief that they belong somewhere their ancestors lived 2,000 years ago doesn't give them the right to go occupy and take someone else's land. My grandmother was Cajun, aka Acadian. Her family had been forced out of Acadia in the great expulsion. Acadia no longer exists, it was previously in what is now Canada/USA. I my grandma and our family had absolutely zero right to go back to that area and claim ownership. And that expulsion happened from 1755-1764, so 250 years ago instead of 2,000. Just as an example.

[@GrannyRalls]

ABSOLUTELY 💯 PERCENT ACCURATE.

[@jillchristine1561]

Great interview. Thank you for addressing current issues in a balanced manner. 🙏

[@sheilabright2091]

That was beautiful. Thank you so much! Going on the website and supporting this work! 🙏🏻🌺🙏🏻🌺

[@m135b]

"We have to find a way to fit two truths into one heart." What a line!

[@jo7246]

What two truths? The guest said the area was conquered thousands of years ago. How can you conquer an area if it is already yours? And what gives one conquering group more right than another conquering group. He does not answer the question who were the original inhabitants of the land before monotheist religion (before Judaism existed). That area has had many groups live there at the same time and not simply two groups. By the guest's standard of truth, the multiple groups that lived there 2,000-3,000 years ago should have equal claims to the land if this is the measure of truth. Yet this is not the case. Imagine how the demographics would change around the world if the standard is to reclaim land once occupied 2000-3000 years ago. Why should this measure be made for one geography and not for all the geography of the entire world. By this standard, the United States would not exist.

[@bohickity]

The Lakota Sioux want Denver Colorado back, good luck with that. I blame Great Britain, they sold the same plot of land to two groups of people.

[@jo7246]

Information on the Nakba is not hard to find. Zionists militias massacred Arabs and forced them off the land.. Villages were burned. The information provided by the guest is inaccurate. There was no peaceful settlement or takeover of the land. I would encourage viewers to research and learn about this topic. The guest is presenting a sanitized and ill-informed version.

[@SharonKohring]

I'm very late to this "party", though a party it is not! I've recently been listening to every interview you've done on the situation in Israel/Palestine and this is the first moment that actually brought the tears that had been hanging around inside my eye lids for so long. This -- “I don’t know anything about them, I’ve never met them, I’m afraid,… they really don’t really have a human face… I am undone by the fact that I can talk to them, that they have a story, that they are human beings.” That is the whole thing in a nutshell, I suppose. Every struggle across the globe that is based on an Us vs Them mentality is due to this reality of a complete lack of contact and connection with "the other". Thank you, Preston Sprinkle. A quick glance at your podcast topics would make one think you might love "stirring the pot" but I believe you are reaching at least one actual goal -- breaking down the "us vs them" divisions through proximity and conversation in order for us all to become true Kingdom people, people who look and sound and ARE increasingly more like Jesus.

[@tosin8401]

I feel like everyone that cares about this issue should listen to this interview

[@lordfedjoe]

Another fellow Nigerian listening to lie

[@patrickmiller9030]

Preston, this was a great conversation, thanks for having him on. A very balanced perspective.

[@anqilarana9651]

Thank you for this interview. It was so enlightening. I respect the fact that he took the step to engage in this process of dialogue, listening and discussing. I hope and pray that this situation gets diffused and peace comes to that land and both the people of Palestine and Israel accept each other as inhabitants of the land and are treated equal. The leaders like Netanyahu have to look at this and approach this with a spirit of reconciliation.

[@pennymacias5702]

Another great interview!

[@mathateuo1653]

Great interview and so honest and transparent.

[@lbamusic]

Excellent interview - I learned a lot.!! thank you!!

[@LisaDunleavy-qf4wk]

Truth can get ugly

[@FreebornLivingWoman]

Have we all forgotten ..... We are guardians of the land, air and waters ...... NO ONE OWNS ANYTHING !!! We have been gifted this blessings from our creator 🙏💖🙏

[@awife7581]

This was so far your BEST interview on this matter. Showed both perspectives. Great conversation. I pray for God to work and bring peace to both nations and that they would come to know Jesus who is the prince of peace.

[@juliegathman2923]

Agree! This rabbi is very organized in his thinking, thus his explanation is very clear, as well as incredibly humble.

[@GrannyRalls]

Every Muslim I know also knows and respects Jesus. In fact Jesus is referred to at least 90 times in the Quran & Mother Mary is highly respected in Islam with an entire chapter "Mary" devoted to her in the Quran.

[@timewaster1737]

We Jews are part of a people yes, but not a "nation", and not all of us support Israel at all.

[@edres7563]

It's possible for some people to feel like they are not a nation, for example if they dont know about history, or if they reject the nation they are born into, but that doesn't mean that there is no such thing as a nation. Two things can be true at the same time.

[@IRVIBENYEHUDA]

EREV RAV!

[@rollingknuckleball]

"A Jew is only a Jew because of his religion" - Rav Saadia Gaon

[@timewaster1737]

@@rollingknuckleballI agree it should be yes. But we are othered by other people. If I am an ashiest (which I am), a nazi would still consider me a Jew. So i cannot escape it

[@NikaSun54]

U are supposed to be a kingdom of priests. N spread the Torah. Sadly Zionism destroyed those goals.

[@markbeeksma8035]

Thanks so much Preston. Great interview. I am curious what Hanan might say about whether Christians and Jews can co-exist and flourish together in the country of Israel. After all, Christianity is a Jewish sect. It's founder is a Jew from the tribe of Judah. I believe that the Romans made Christianity less Jewish, but many Christians are returning to their Jewish roots, without becoming less Christian.

[@FreebornLivingWoman]

Please evidence your "beliefs" as facts 🤔🤔🤔

[@xanatax1844]

It’s basically the same religion, 🤯 Israelis don’t seem to know, don’t seem to see it, and that’s one of the things frustrating Muslims. Kinda like saying Catholics are Protestants are 2 separate religions. Kinda very true, but also kinda missing the point. 🤷‍♀️

[@xanatax1844]

like it or don’t … Hamas is acting like this is the Crusades, & trying to treat Israelis the same way Salah ad-Deen dealt with barbarians sent by the Vatican. 🤷‍♀️

[@jeffreyontheway]

I met him a year ago!

[@butterfliesinsidemj]

Nearly 3000 views and only 58 comments. Is YT suppressing/canceling comments?

[@GrannyRalls]

Absolutely 💯 % accurate! They certainly are mine dependent of course on what words I use.

[@Skidkid]

1:00:55 There you go.

[@CFCMahomet]

I believe that the Elvis Inn still exists.

[@israelsilva9750]

You cannot impose your beliefs upon others, you have no claims to the land just because there were kingdoms of jews more than 2000 years ago. You must obey International Law, which is secular. Your beliefs are your own. This whole thing of Zionism would just be irrational, if not for the Holocaust and the Stalinist purges. That's the only way I understand Zionism.

[@GrannyRalls]

Why are my comments being censored when I'm not saying anything offensive unless you consider factual statements offensive.

[@1541965]

Why don't you talk about the illegal settlements built on Palestinian Lands in West Bank? Why don't you talk about how they humiliate Palestinians on Israeli checkpoints? Why don't you talk about the United Nation resolutions that Israel don't comply with such as 1947 resolution 181 (II), partitioning Palestine into two States - one Arab and one Jewish - the independence of the Palestinian Arab State continued to be unjustly obstructed and the rights of Palestinians “flagrantly denied”. resolution 194 on Nov. 1948 The right of return of Palestinian refugees to Palestine? Resolution 242 in 1967 the illegal occupation of Israel to Palestinian Lands in West Bank? Resolution 904 in 1994 Protecting the Palestinians in the occupied territories from the Israelis after the Ibrahimic Mosque massacre? Why you are not talking about Dec 30 2022 United Nation Resolution against Israel at ICJ. 87 Country votes in favor including China and Russia against the illegal settlement and illegal occupation of Palestinian Lands and the Holy City of Jerusalem. Why don’t you talk about The UN Security Council, for its part, responded to the Israeli decision to annex East Jerusalem, by issuing Resolution No. 478 on August 29, 1980, which included non-recognition of Israeli law regarding Jerusalem, and called on countries to withdraw their diplomatic missions from the city. Also Resolution No. 15/36 on October 28, 1981, declaring that any changes in the Jerusalem area are illegal and against international law, and that such actions are an obstacle to achieving just and comprehensive peace. UN Resolution 2334 issued on December 23, 2016, confirms that Israel’s establishment of settlements in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967 - including East Jerusalem - has no legal legitimacy, and demands that Israel immediately stop all settlement activities and not recognize any changes to the June 4 borders. /June 1967. UN Resolution in 1974 says in point #5 The Palestinian people have the right to regain their rights by all means in accordance with the United Nations Charter. It affirms the right of the Palestinian people to independence and sovereignty and the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and the right to return to Palestine. After signing the Oslo Accords on September 13, 1993, the Palestinians promised by Israel , USA, EU, Russian and UN that the eastern part of Jerusalem would be their future capital, and the Palestinian leadership confirmed its firm position many times by saying, “There is no Palestinian state without East Jerusalem as its capital in accordance with the resolutions of international legitimacy and the peace initiative.” Arabic". Even the official American position supported the international position on occupied Jerusalem, which appeared in an American message of reassurances to the Palestinians in October 1991, in which it stated, “We do not recognize Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem or its expansion of its municipal borders.” Russia confirms that it recognizes West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and East Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine, which was reconfirmed by a source in the Russian Foreign Ministry in December 2017. However, the US Congress reversed the international position on October 23, 1995, when it issued a law stipulating the transfer of the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and the necessity of recognizing “Jerusalem as the capital of the State of Israel.” I wonder Why are you playing the victim role? Israel always victimize it self ? I'm Palestinian and Israeli are killing us since 1947 and we never heard you talking about it and condemn Israel for killing innocent Palestinians. Why you speak about the reaction of the innocent Palestinians tortured daily by Zionist Israeli but never speak about the action of Israeli illegal occupation of Palestine that bring such reaction? Please come to Palestine and see for yourself how they treat Palestinians and tortured them. Please we invite you all to come and see the truth by yourself. why can't UN stop Israeli Zionist killing innocent Palestinian Civilian mostly Children and women for 75 years? Why UN can't punish Israeli Zionist for violating more than 70 UN Resolution but destroyed Iraq for violating couple of UN Resolution? UN should ask the west why you consider Ukrainian defending their lands against Russian as freedom fighter but you consider Palestinian defending their Land against Israeli as Terrorist? Do the Palestinian have the right to defend themselves because you always say Israel has the right to defend itself? Do the Palestinian have the right to defend themselves when Land was taken from them Homes were destroyed when daily innocent civilian Palestinian children’s and women were killed Palestinian homes were confiscated and demolished by Israeli and when UN Resolutions on Torture on ethnic cleansing against the Palestinian in Israel failed and so many other UN Resolution against Israel failed. did the Palestinian have the right to defend themselves when Israel Turn on and off Electricity stop the water stop food stop fuel stop medical Aid put Gaza on the biggest open-Air Prison for 16 years long long before October 7 attack by Hamas? You can’t say open Air Prison because you go to prison if you did something wrong. It is the biggest open concentration camp in the world. if you claim Israel has a "right to self-defense" then shouldn't you also acknowledge Palestine's right to armed struggle against the occupying power? Armed resistance against the occupying power is a fact that is acknowledged by international humanitarian law conventions. You are so ignorant about the facts on the ground. Hamas was born in 1987 and Zionist Israel been killing innocent Palestinian Civilian since 1947. Palestinian since 1947 were crying to the world shouting to people like you to UN, EU, USA, Russia, China, .... etc. to help them and to stop the massacre of Palestinian by Israel Zionist. Where were you from 1947 until 1987 when Israel Zionist killed innocent Palestinian and still killing them until today? No one helped the Palestinian or listened to them. Nobody cares about them for 75 years. Palestinian decided to stand up and defend themselves and on 1987 after they lost hope from the entire world to save them Hamas was born as REACTION to the ACTION of the Israeli Zionist against innocent Palestinian. Hamas is REACTION for the illegal ACTION of the Zionist Israel. What Hamas did in OCT 7 is happening to the Palestinians daily since 1947 for 75 years. Where were you and why you didn't condemn the killing of those innocent Palestinian for 75 years? What Hamas did is REACTION of the illegal ACTION of Zionist Israel. The ACTION is the illegal Occupation of Palestine by Israeli Zionist and the violation of more than 70 UN Resolution by Israel Zionist. End up the illegal ACTION of Zionist Israel they will be no REACTION. The Problem with the western Media you do condemn the REACTION of the Palestinian and forget about the illegal ACTION of Zionist Israel.

[@greendude27]

I really like Rabbi Hanan's approach. It is pointless to fight and argue over who has a right to land. At this point we need to accept the reality that both peoples need to coexist and live peacefully side by side as one nation through reconciliation!

[@GrannyRalls]

Reconciliation would mean honoring Palestinians right to return which was guaranteed to them.

[@repilot]

Excellent!

[@bobtaleberg]

If the jews can claim the land of palestiniane because they claim they were there 3 thousand years ago even thought those jews left or reverted to islam.than its only fair that America be returned to the native Indians, and Australia be given back to the aborigines.

[@julieoxenberg5621]

Sounds good to me. Over 60% of Israelis are Arabs btw. 20+% Arab Palestinian and 40% Arab Jews (Jews from the Arab lands including Palestine and ancient Israel). Less than 40% of Israelis came there from having been in the diaspora in Europe.

[@rollingknuckleball]

@@julieoxenberg5621 Actually the genetic heritage of the Palestianian people shows strong links to the ancient Canaanites, which precedes the advent of the Israelites in the Holy Land. Also, the Israelites are ethnically Iraqi. Abraham was from mesopotamia.

[@stellabrown909]

Okay my question to the Rabbi is, why did the Jews leave the Middle East in the first place? What happened? Did they have a war between them and the Arabs?

[@ichthys4396]

In 132 CE, a man named Simon Bar-Kochba led a Jewish revolt against the Romans. After the Romans put it down, they dispersed the Jews from the land and the emperor renamed Jerusalem Aelia Capitolina.

[@lordfedjoe]

Jew is a religion, not a nation, race or ethnicity

[@edeancozzens3833]

It seems to me that "settler" means thief.

[@FreebornLivingWoman]

Only 44 comments and not that many more thumbs up at 74. Seems YT doesnt like healthy discussions.

[@JingleJangleJam]

There's a lack of legal and political consideration of Palestinian's economic insecurity that would come from throwing them off land without realistic prospects for establishing a new grounded, free and balanced life. It sounds as though the cost of giving a Jewish people their homeland's freedom has been to strip away the freedoms of others. Jews could still settle, and live their, while not taking away Palestinian's freedoms, but it would take a far more left-wing Israeli government than what current exists, which seems unlikely because of a brainwashing of a far right-wing supremacity movement that has racial feelings of superiority to arabs and has no interest in securing or protecting Palestinian freedoms which is unlikely to make them less peaceful, while blaming their hatred of Jewish people on an irrational desire to annihilate Judea rather than a feeling of emnity from deprivation of their freewill by them.

[@ZenatiOmar]

Israel is a land of contradictions Its secular and claim the land on theological arguments Thats like i claim to be a Biologist and start talkin about Adam and Eve

[@rollingknuckleball]

Its as the joke goes, most Zionists dont believe in God but they believe God promised them the land

[@ellenekebede4727]

Its one of the oldest written books

[@dgjesdal]

I like the idea of two true “experiences”.

[@melray5001]

He forgot to mention Palestinans were nomatic and that when the Jews who had lived and developed the lands and built the temples for thousands of years were mostly thrown out by the Romans they renamed the land of Israel/Judea Palestine after the Phillistines who were a great enemy of the jews...

[@leonardoarmandoiarrusso1225]

"He forgot to mention Palestinans were nomatic" - what is the difference if they were in the very same territory in the last centuries? "and that when the Jews who had lived and developed the lands and built the temples for thousands of years" - we have few references/sources about "jews" (not only) and in a lot of cases the torah is improperly used as a source. You are referring to the development of the land, etc. but it SHOULD make no difference for the last century since the international laws profoundly changed the int. situation after WW2, otherwise we should go back in the ages to determine who is the legit owner of a land or another. Btw we have scarce and not very reliable informations about almost any population in that period. Nobody could use such arguments to justify anything, nonetheless any subject would be justified to cliam the land. "were mostly thrown out by the Romans" - as happened several natives thrown out of what they've decided to be "their land", including the native americans, as the canaanites wiped out by the israelites (as reported in the torah, if we want to follow a non historically reliable source), etc. So, what's your point? "they renamed the land of Israel/Judea Palestine after the Phillistines who were a great enemy of the jews..." - but the "philistines", that are NOT the current palestinians as the israelis of the past are NOT the current ones, were not the only "enemies" for those populations. Except your probable idea to find a made up reason... What's the relation with what is discussed in the video?

[@butterfliesinsidemj]

If you do not believe in the scriptutres I guess nothing makes sense.

[@rollingknuckleball]

Take a DNA test, go on

[@greyskeptic3961]

Best Zionist take I've heard. I wish more of them held these views and struggles.

[@mariemabed]

A jew is a person who believes in and practicses the religion of Judaism. Israel owe to be the country of its inhabitants equally, including the autochthonous people, not for jew only.

[@magentaorchids]

The greatest day in Jewish history ( creation of a Jewish state ) coincided with the worst tragedy ( catastrophe or Nakba ) for the Palestinians Dear God…………

[@MuizzyGo]

If we recgonize a two state solution than we are telling the natives of the land MUSLIMS .We are doing nothing but following the BEFLOUR DECLERATION. The land is called BALAD AS SHAAM which is not just the zionist problem but it is also ,JORDAN,SYRIA,LEBANON,IRAQ and Saudi Arabia and Egypt.Parts of those countries are a piece of what is called PALESTINE in ISLAM its called BALAD AS SHAAM.

[@margaretk.haydon3137]

Why must identity be so imbedded in externals? This is tribal thinking.

[@nicolaasmalgas8348]

People have eyes and can read...this guy really is trying very hard to spin the history

[@nicolaasmalgas8348]

Is people really believing these nonsense?

[@westyso.cal.8842]

Wow! Preston, I Don’t think we’ve ever seen so much hate-filled discourse and comments for any of your shows before. You have really managed to stir up a hornets nest with this discussion. Clearly many of the people that listen to your show are quite bitter, resentful, angry, ungrateful, unloving, and noticeably unhappy. Is this what you mean by having “curious conversations?” Just an observation...