Do Christians Have a Theological Obligation to Support the Modern State of Israel? Dr. Gary Burge

[@shelleythomas1046]

This video needs to go everywhere fast, please Lord make it so. Amen

[@D.Martin-qp2ez]

Amen!

[@oceanfroggie]

Thank you for helping clarify my thinking on this difficult matter.

[@MohamedZainudeen-c5w]

There's no holiness in perpetrating the genocide.

[@Lisaann7]

What a great discussion. I have been struggling with this. Raised in evangelical circles. Finally some biblical clarity. I will definitely be studying more. Thank you so much!!

[@JamesMorris-l8b]

Not clarity. God reminded Israel in Jeremiah that the Covenant was made with Israel and is everlasting. You can't cherry pick scripture to make an argument. It was foretold Israel would return. It is foretold a war is coming. Then it is foretold they will turn their hearts toward God. Then 144 thousand virgen men will be sealed and proclaim the Gospel of Christ.

[@JamesMorris-l8b]

To deny the plain truth of scripture puts you in the camp of the apostate church.

[@Lisaann7]

@@JamesMorris-l8b read Hebrews and let us know lol

[@Invaderman440-pn7nb]

User-x3. The prophecied remnant return or "back in the land" concept is the foundation of the modern day "Israel". The largest problem with this, is that it doesn't match any of the accounts in Scripture, such as Isaiah 2, 11, 35, 43, and 60, Zechariah 2 and 10, Zephaniah 3, Micah 7:15, Amos 9, Joel 3, Matthew 24:30-31, Mark 13, Luke 17 and 21, and Revelation 20. All of these passages refer to Christians, and say "saints", "elect", etc. New covenant believers. Isaiah 43 and Mark 13 refer to how believers come from all 4 directions for this supernatural gathering.

[@JamesMorris-l8b]

@@Invaderman440-pn7nb This wasn't the first time Israel or Israel to be was removed from the land then returned. However Ezekiel 37 matches exactly to 1948. Also the Ezekiel 38 war is coming together. It's not there yet but it is miraculously close. God's word is always correct but if scholars disagree. Well it's not the first time scholars / Religious leaders have been wrong.

[@ortizlydia22]

The conversation most American Christians don't want to have!!!!! This was on point!!!!

[@johnnymonoxide9220]

True... aside from Christian Zionism which has roots in the Scofield bible ( financed by Wall Street financier Samuel Untermeyer), how much is anti-Muslim hatred one of the primary reasons for support of Israel among Christians? It's maddening to see Protestant churches putting up Israel's flag as it bombs Baptist hospital killing 500, mostly women and children.

[@westyso.cal.8842]

Indeed. The university’s have become left wing indoctrination centers where young impressionable minds are filled with radical ideologies and taught to hate America and Israel. You are so correct that many Americans aren’t willing to examine the actual facts and have those conversations that challenge all the lies and half truths that they are being fed in the realm of liberal academia.

[@anilmendis7994]

What the point?

[@benjaminguilatcoiv]

The modern country 'Israel' the name that it has taken upon itself is a lie. The modern 'Jews' the identity that their fathers generations ago have taken upon themselves is stolen. For many generations they have been born into a lie which along with most of this world they have come to believe is true. For we are born into a world wrapped in lies. We live in a world of big lies and sadly many have come to believe these lies as truth.

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[@sandracoombs2255]

This was a terrific conversation. Thank you both so much. 😊

[@ileneyadegari8055]

I never believed that the scriptures told us to support the state of Israel our loyalty is to God not a land or a people.

[@victorravenstein6902]

Israel is a people not a place

[@D.Martin-qp2ez]

You were correct all along.

[@D.Martin-qp2ez]

@@victorravenstein6902 Correct!

[@kevinwilliamson4626]

True Israel is everyone that had genuine faith with the one true God and the coming Messiah in the Old Testament and everyone that has faith in the one true God and Jesus the Messiah now. We didn’t replace the true remnant of genuine believers before- we joined them. Hints the olive tree. There’s not 2 olive trees.

[@D.Martin-qp2ez]

@@kevinwilliamson4626 Well said. There were never 2 olive trees. I think that sums up everything.

[@renelaunstein1517]

Thanks for so thoughtfully explaining how thinking and studying can be a way to understand and learn the meaning of "love your neighbor" when it seems so confusing in our world today.

[@gabrielalexanderkhoury73]

Palestinian Christians are the first Christian community in history. Now Orthodox, Protestants, Catholics and Armenians. Please listen to them and hiow they have suffered under Israel.

[@naaodey7896]

What about the 12 apostles, and the early church? Majority were Jews. Jesus told his disciples to preach the gospel, starting from Jerusalem.

[@adambrownhussein6525]

​@@naaodey7896Being a Jew is STRICTLY of faith and NOT race or ethnicity. There are Arab Jews, Persian Jews, Ethiopian Jews, ethnic German Jews, ethnic Polish Jews, ethnic Russian Jews etc.

[@wolfsheepclothing]

@@naaodey7896They became Christian at Pentecost. They were born Jews but they spread the msg of Christianity, therefore they’re Christians.

[@Invaderman440-pn7nb]

Naaodey7896, the were Jews, as in circumcised, but when a person becomes a Christian, following Christ replaces former ideologies. We don't say that someone is a Christian Muslim or a Christian Hindu. Messianic Jew is a misnomer to get Christians to worship the whole scam. Judaism is an ideology, not an ethnicity. It is weaponised as an ethnicity, but Der Judenstaat, and all of the other works of the Zionist Congress who founded Israel, make it clear that anyone who calls themselves a "Jew" is a follower and promoter of the Zohar. Ben Shapiro gave an angry short speach about how it has to be just an ideology. Today, it is mostly Japhetic people, but the narratives sell the project to Americans claiming some type of Abrahamic connection. If you read the Zohar, you can see how the Babylonians stole Abraham's identity and used it perversely for pagan and occultic humanism. Throughout the middle ages, most Abrahamic peoples turned to Islam, and are still there today, being wiped-out by Japhites that are as white as I am. Abraham would never stand for that, and He will be coming with The Lord at His return after the scam is a smoking ruin. Isaiah 34-35, Joel 3, Ezekiel 9, Daniel 7:25-28, Daniel 12, Amos 9, Revelation 16-20, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 17 and 21.

[@JamesMorris-l8b]

@@gabrielalexanderkhoury73 The so called Palistinians are realative newcomers. Read the book "From Time Immemorial" it covers the History of Muslim - Jew conflict from the beginning. Also covers who lives where and who comes from where in the words of the Muslim leaders in charge of the land Briton called Palistine.

[@claudettewisdom8664]

Thank You Jesus! This is Christ centered mindset! Blessings!

[@bobmcgraw]

Thanks again, Preston (and Gary) for giving us theological insights into how we should think about this question. My understanding continues to fill out.

[@kkm0202]

Thank you for these conversations!

[@danieltrueheart]

Wow just powerful I just started paying attention to this conflict with the news and my heart is grieved at the suffering and confused as to the perspectives of Christians which I find cruel tbh

[@D.Martin-qp2ez]

Yes. We are all grieving at the suffering. All of these wars could have been prevented. Your suffering will push you to pursue Christ Jesus. We are told to worship Him in spirit and truth. He never told us to land worship which is idolatry.

[@5YEARS4FRUIT]

@@D.Martin-qp2ezexcept He gave them that land.

[@tmilholin7552]

Not according to scripture they don't the only Obligation we owe to them is prayer they accept the Messiah

[@maisoonafaneh7831]

We owe to Jesus to go and spread the good gospel to all people. And this is the scripture!

[@ridetotheright1]

On your show the other day, I loved the quote from your guest "we await the new Israel, we don't create it." While I pray for peace for Israel, my understanding of the Israel we await is it comes down from the sky as the book of Revelation says when it describes the return of Christ. As well, this new Israel is a place for both Jew and Gentile as through Christ we become Abraham's seed. I find it fascinating that Christians think they can tempt Christ into returning sooner by trying to fulfill the interpretations of prophecy through the mind of John Nelson Darby. I wonder one day as the tribulation plays out and believers aren't swept away in a rapture if this teaching will cause people to lose faith. After all, multiple times in scripture, Jesus himself says the non-believers will be swept away and the believers are the ones in the end who are left behind to celebrate with their King.

[@lrwsf1]

Lol, like a filthy Christian is going to be raptured. You nuts are certifiable.

[@livingstreams4677]

Very important discussion for the Church of Jesus Christ who have been massively deceived by the theology of Darby and Scofield

[@Plisken65]

Don't be deceived by this antisemetic replacement theology.

[@D.Martin-qp2ez]

You are correct!

[@basharzori]

Always top-notch interviews Preston. Thanks for all of your productions.

[@JnstBrimstone]

Before wrestling with the question let me help with the answer. Nope, there is no theological mandate for Christians to support Israel.

[@theLORDGod_G450]

Hi, great platform! If you have not already had Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship in Kilaspel Montana, on the show, you might truly enjoy his message on this topic. He is NOT 501(c)(3) And is NON-Denominational so is able to speak boldly.

[@Geraldine452]

I have been struggling w my faith, and opinions around me, since Oct 2023 Found Chuck Baldwin who's teaching made me breathe again. Many thanks for your discussion🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@kennethyakovac665]

One of the best brief and concise analyses of this issue on KZbin, and I say this having followed this subject for decades.

[@shelleythomas1046]

Thank you. Yes and amen. At last someone speaking that it takes TWO parties to abide in the agreement to make the covenant still valid. As a spiritual house Israel is destitute.Jesus Saves and can and will save all individual Jews who call on him.

[@blackdogleg]

The only way is through Jesus Christ. Period.

[@donnasheppard7371]

God bless you Sir this is as clear as day!

[@lrwsf1]

The situation isn’t complicated to understand. People make excuses to keep from having an opinion.

[@fuikayesoong7089]

Evangelicals spend a lot of time denigrating other people's religions rather than focusing on their own scriptures. Breathing evangelical air that citing a singular political view makes it a very sus 'religion;. thank you!

[@lorenrosser9702]

This is really good! Thank you for having this conversation!

[@ProdigalClay]

Yes! Excellent content here! Thank you both.

[@janetwebb1507]

CIRCUMCISM OF THE HEART

[@koko2bware]

You nailed it...!!🤣

[@darrenmcharg7731]

Thank you for this discussion.

[@Selahsmum]

so so helpful, Drs. Thank you.

[@sojournerabroad]

Thank you for your broad interviews on this subject! you have made my learning much easier. Is it possible to download the transcript?

[@GarrettBradfordTX]

God bless you brothers

[@edeancozzens3833]

Awesome. Thanks so much.

[@nikan2269]

Can we have a contextual and in-depth explanation of ROMANS 9-11, and what is meant by "all of Israel will be saved" in chapter 11?

[@blakewidmer]

Jason Staples has a book coming out in a few months, please see some of his online writings and pre-order his book.

[@matthewbraynimeth2796]

Indeed, and all of the Old Testament is the Jews breaking God's law. God's covenant stands without the actions of mankind. His promises to the Jews are never broken.

[@nikan2269]

@@blakewidmer thank you for the suggestion. I will look into it.

[@nikan2269]

@matthewbraynimeth2796 @matthewbraynimeth2796 His covenant with Abraham will never be broken. Jesus made it apparent to the pharisees that not everyone who claims genetic lineage of Abraham...are of Abraham. The seed of God's promise is received by faith and "circumcision" comes by faith. it stands that all Israel (those who truly are Israel that believe in Christ Jesus) are saved. He is calling all people to Himself from every tribe, tongue, and nation who become grafted in the lineage that comes by faith... Abraham's lineage. Well.. I leave it at that. Romans 9:6 (ESV): 6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel... I am more so asking how Romans 11 should be understood contextually. Hope that makes sense. 🙏🏼

[@lindaarendt496]

I would recommend John Stott’s commentary on Romans. His teaching on 9-11 is the most complete and clear I’ve read. He presents the ideas of different theologians, not just his own. It’s a very good resource and easy to read

[@jjjutika2594]

Excellent Preston👏👏👏

[@bozach99]

Preston, Gary I am writing as the death count in Gaza is over 37,000 and counting. Thank you so very much for this expose, clearly there is so much more to analyse and discuss. From a Christian perspective, the wonderful reatlity of Christ and the Gospel and its universality is the hope one clings on to - in this world going mad. I have travelled to Israel twice and have jewish friends who are totally secular. Thank you again.

[@JamesMorris-l8b]

@@bozach99 It does not matter if all are secular. God's promises still stand. When this war works it way to the war described in Ezekiel 38. The result will bring their hearts back to God. Then after the Rapture. After the tribulation. We will return to fight the armies of the Anti christ at the vale of Maggido. Then the blood will flow 5 feet deep.

[@Invaderman440-pn7nb]

User-xv3, since Gog of Magog comes to fight after the tribulation and after the 1000 years of Satan locked in the pit, that has nothing to do with the current dominion of Europeans and their land grab. Ezekiel 38 shows Gog of Magog coming against a different Israel "dwelling without walls, bars, or gates", and Revelation says that He comes against "the camp of the saints", so at least 1003.5 years from now. For what is there before the camp of the saints and the time, times, and an half, see Daniel 7:25-28. Sounds like the Austrian who named himself "given by god" Netan Yahu. Granted it was Nathaniel who did the self-aggrandizement for the rebranding effort. Daniel 7:25-28 KJV - 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. 26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. 27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him. 28 Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.

[@JamesMorris-l8b]

@@Invaderman440-pn7nb Ezekiel 37 Describes the return of Israel after years of being spread through out the world. This is the beginning of the last days. Also told as the budding of the fig tree. Ezekiel 38 is the war where six nations including Gog and Magog attack Israel. Sound familiar. Watch the news. During that war when the world turns it's back on Israel. Then God destroys Israel's enemies with fire and ice. Then Israel turns their hearts toward God. But before Israel makes the I'll fated deal with Anti Christ the Rapture occurs.

[@enkaiscott]

Great discussion. I covered Joshua chapter 10 last week in great detail as I do, will take three weeks to get through it. Now Joshua had defeated at least 10 Canaanite kings by this time and battled the foes of Israel the foes of God right up to Gaza. Note, right up to Gaza. Joshua never defeats Gaza. Neither do the Judges, nor do the Kings. Gaza is not conquered by Israel. So if any Christian claimed Gaza belongs to Israel, tell them we have 5000 years of recorded history screaming the opposite. The dividing lines of this debate are a lack of scholarship, a lack of moral objectivity, and a lack of love for our neighbor as ourselves.

[@CrowneofBeautyFromAshes]

thank you 🙏 for this powerful push back...this will blow the lies out of the water 💥

[@douglasjones2814]

Thanks for a good exploration of a very important topic. The apostle Paul’s radically Christocentric approach exposes the two god approach of Christian Zionism which imports an alien “God” with a character that is, in many respects, diametrically opposed to the character of God revealed in Jesus. Once again, thanks.

[@johnpinckney7269]

good grief read romans 11

[@douglasjones2814]

@@johnpinckney7269 have done and did PhD research on Romans 9-11. It does not support Christian Zionism!

[@garycartwright8488]

Thank you both for a very enlightening conversation. From it I have found 2 very basic truths (1) The overall story of both the old and new covenants is the restoration of God's plan for his creation. We should be evaluating all of Scripture back to that fundamental truth. Genesis 1,2 describes creation as the building of a temple and the creation of the care taker of that temple as one who is created in the image and likeness of the creator. Genesis 3 then tells why God's plan goes astray because the care taker decided that he was equal to the creator and that ended the natural relationship between creator and care giver (which we describe as the sin of Adam). The rest of scripture is about the restoration of that relationship which is finally described in the Revelation to John in chapter 21. Truth #2 (for me) is the rebuilding of the temple is the temple of the Holy Spirit inside each one of us as we are encouraged to live into the likeness of the Image that we were created in order to reclaim our original vocation as care givers. all the rest are details of that story.

[@johnpinckney7269]

That all sounds good but this viewpoint just ignores vast expanses of Isaiah, Ezekiel, Zechariah, Zephaniah......

[@TheWidowsOil]

I am a white Christian born in South Africa, I am now in my fifties, so I remember apartheid well growing up. The way I have heard the situation described in Israel, esp the marriage laws and laws about beaches, is exactly what apartheid was. I do not appreciate what the ANC party of Mandela have done to South Africa, though, and my concern is once some peace settlement is made, more decades upon decades of heartache and destruction will ensue for both Jews and Palestinians, as is the case now in South Africa, where now everyone suffers even a worse situation than before.

[@aldelacruz4224]

One problem which needs to be solved concerning the term Jew of today. In 70AD, the Temple where the genealogy of all priesthood was totally destroyed, cannot be found anywhere. There are no Jews today. Since YAWEH promised to totally eradicate national Israel, why do we keep using the term "Jew". They are Kazarian, migrated from Greece and embraced Hebrew religion.

[@arttyree4504]

US is an outlier because it has an outliar--dispensationalism.

[@timswauger9245]

Great discussion, though it would have been interesting to hear responses to the other side of the question: do Christians have an obligation to support Palestinian state-hood and their right to defend their homeland. It seems that when people lay claim to Christ, the NT is clear: claims to land rights are superseded by Christ's claim on the believer, since the believer now has a "better & lasting possession" (Hebrews 10:34). Being dispossessed of land is better than being unfaithful to Christ's call to love enemies, overcome evil w/ good, & bless not curse. From Christ's perspective, both Israeli & Palestinian need his New Covenant to transform their mindset.

[@monab27]

Christians should stand up for justice, is it just to be forcefully expelled from, confiscate and demolish your home, your farm land, your sources of water and livelihood just because you are a Palestinian.. By the way, Israel has forcefully expelled the Palestinian Christians as well as the Mulisms. So for all those, who try to explain the root cause of this conflict as age old religious between jews and Muslims it is not. They (the european colonial settler zionist) wanted to clear out the land from its natives. So this conflict is not ancient, it started at the turn of the 1900's and the events that led to the establishment of IL by the UN. The zionists displayed the Palestinian natives of the land regardless of their religion. Both Palestinian Muslims as well as the Palestinian Christians were expelled and dispossessed..and well as got their own Palestinian jewish communities,and jews from the wider middle east displaced and brought them to the newly established (illegal) state. Read Avi (Abraham) Shlaim's book 'I'm and Arab jew'

[@Plisken65]

There is no Palestinian "homeland".

[@timswauger9245]

@@Plisken65 only if you believe there is no American "homeland"

[@collectiveconsciousness5314]

@@Plisken6570 A.D. happened for a reason.

[@jeffreywilheim5970]

Or you just need to learn what is and isn't any of your business.

[@fuikayesoong7089]

I am sorry that I never saw this until Gaza happened. But it is sad that it has taken so many lives and atrocities being exposed for me to realise this. Just tragic - even for myself. More should speak up more.

[@maisoonafaneh7831]

Such a grabbing conversation! How awsome are God’s people! How awsome is our God! Free Palestine!

[@santaclaaugustin1460]

Thanks Preston.

[@dhe777]

The land promise was fulfilled in the Old Testament in the Book of Joshua Chapter 21, It was lost due to the iniquity of the Jews. The promise also included "eternal possession" This obviously does not mean contiguous possession The eternal possession comes with the 2nd Coming of Yeshua. 1948 was a fleshly satanic inversion of Biblical Prophecy, driven by a Mason lead England.

[@yungb254]

Don't forget the Rothschild family.

[@NEOM6736]

Excellent talk!

[@annablackburn5474]

Thank you so much!

[@hixadam1]

Great conversation I will definitely read the book. I just wish I knew about the video when it came out

[@SeenAndKnown]

Even though the Scripture is a prophetic Word you don't read it as such and are arguing against this truth in its everlasting context; it never stops being prophetic. Including in an ultimate end of the age context with Israel being redeemed. Supernatural it is.

[@simpinainteasy680]

Do you think you owe support to People running an Apartheid State, People that would segregate you as a Christian to a lesser status?

[@Plisken65]

Do you owe support to bloodthirsty terrorists who vow to wipe Israel off the map?

[@Manhua328]

if one is slave minded, then yes, they will support the oppressor no matter what.

[@johnpinckney7269]

The fact that you call Israel an apartheid state is just slander against a very decent country and noble idealistic people who are faced with daily horrors beyond comprehension. They continue to be beloved for the fathers' sake.

[@Manhua328]

@@johnpinckney7269 ROFL. biggest joke i heard

[@johnpinckney7269]

@@Manhua328 You believe lies most likely. Do you know there are many Arabs in the IDF?

[@danielg7868]

Excellent interview

[@lindaarendt496]

Thank you so much for this timely, comprehensive teaching that the Church needs to hear. I’ve been so discouraged since this war started b/c the churches haven’t spoken out. I attend a Reformed Presbyterian church but suddenly I’m surrounded by Christian Zionists that pray for Israel. I think they have been influenced by another CA pastor/author who claims to be a Calvinist on the East coast and a dispensationalist in his own church in CA. I love my church but have not ruled out looking for a new church home.

[@graceyenne4497]

Try Eastern Orthodoxy.

[@danielg7868]

I am Reformed Presbyterian as well and have similar experiences.

[@michiganyes]

@danielg7868 and @lindaarendt496, do you mean Reformed Presbyterian as in the RPCNA? I attended RPCNA churches for a good number of years, so if that is what each of you mean, I'll find it interesting and cool to see RP folks listening to Theology in the Raw!

[@danielg7868]

@@michiganyes yes, I attend an OPC church. I haven't listened to this channel much but found it as a result of Gary Burge. Since October I've found Gary to be a voice of reason and Biblical truth on this topic.

[@danielg7868]

@@graceyenne4497 can you provide a good title of a KZbin video which explains the beliefs of Eastern Eastern Orthodoxy

[@repilot]

Please correct me if I heard Gary wrong…he said 80% of Israeli Jews are secular? 40% is a more accurate number, it has everything to do with defining secular… Forgetting the theological arguments (which are numerous), I’m looking for the Lord Jesus to return, not to rapture, but to rule and reign. If we evangelicals took the time to learn how the Orthodox see the Land and end times these would be moot discussions. Our western minds are corrupted! We think we are so smart, so wise…

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

No, it's 80-some percent according to polls that were done. I read this myself too. Furthermore, polls also showed that the single most defining thing for their entire identity, as self reported, was their belief in the big H hoax, not heir religion.

[@BertGraef]

where will He rule and reign from? They didnt want Him back then,, and they still dont. What makes some of you think He is coming back with the magic wand and those antichrists (1 John 2:22-23) will accept Him 100%? The entire nation is going to have an aha moment, courtesy of Zech 12:10?? All these are their own fables. They couldnt stand HIM for 3 years. I dont think they would tolerate HIM for 1000.

[@JoshBransonPhoto]

Answer. No.

[@dhe777]

The Value of a Human Life, Human Spirit was set by God as the Blood of Christ. To kill to obtain land is to say that Land is more valuable than the Blood of Christ.

[@willytangkere5784]

Thank you very much, that more Christian will learn and understand and make their mind,John the Baptist said behold, the lamb of GOD WHO take away the sin of the world, do we need another redeemer? , do we need red heifer for sacrifice ?

[@urbanevintner105]

“ ‘The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you reside in my land as foreigners and strangers. Throughout the land that you hold as a possession, you must provide for the redemption of the land.” ‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭25‬:‭23‬-‭24‬ ‭NIV‬‬ “And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.” ‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭18‬:‭28‬ ‭NIV‬‬

[@Mariamblu]

As a Muslim I thank you for this podcast.

[@PietGrobler-dt1ce]

Evangelicals 1918-1929 heavily influenced by dispensational theology.

[@edeancozzens3833]

Some sanity. What a breath of fresh theologically and biblically correct thinking.

[@BertGraef]

Dispensationalism is a failure that makes out the Nazarene to be a failure, and therefore God has to send the "proper" Messiah and hence, that ridiculous theology makes theChrist rejecters right after all, after 2000 years, and even God was wrong with Jesus, the first time. I toss all that back into the sulfur pit it comes from. Hal Lindsey and Haggee and so many others have done a lot of damage.

[@curtpegram5305]

Excellent conversation. It would help attention to your guest if we didn't have to contend with a moving head and upper torso on a split screen. And, please tell us: What is it with the baseball caps and podcasters? Hey! Why not turn it around backwards and put on a catcher's mask? I use captions because of hearing loss, and watching the video becomes tedious and a source for headache and eye strain. Thanks.

[@rbayat108]

Elephant in the room: the muslims (Arabs) in the region are also of Abraham's bloodline. Furthermore the Muslims also believe in the immaculate birth of Jesus, but the Jews do not.

[@meecha59]

lol...good point

[@shelleythomas1046]

Jesus told the unbelieving Jews they would not see him again until they say blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. All of Israel being saved is jews and gentiles world wide who believe in Jesus. For God so loved the world...

[@shelleythomas1046]

Abraham saw the future saw a heavenly city heavenly kingdom built by God Forever. Praise God.

[@ireneusjustinpolicarp8628]

Right, ascension of Jesus to heaven opening the gates of the new Jerusalem.

[@debravictoria7452]

Just found your channel. Will subscribe & check out more videos.

[@gordonhuskin7337]

what does the talmud say about Jesus?

[@Hello-ig1px]

who cares, only anti-semites bring up the talmud.

[@skylark...]

very blasphemous things!

[@lrwsf1]

Nothing good.

[@SpotterVideo]

New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below? Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. The Apostle Paul warned against using “genealogies” in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the KZbin videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

[@BertGraef]

The King seems to be Netanyahu, according to Baptist and Pentecostal eschatology.

[@jeremiahl.a.3343]

Jesus is the Israel of God (Exodus 4:22, Hosea 11:1) Because of this, the gentiles who believe in Christ are now citizens of Israel (Ephesian 2:11-13, 19) Just because someone is a physical descendant of Abraham does not mean they are of Israel (Romans 9:6-8) Jesus told the Jews who didn't believe in him that they were not of God, Nor Abraham, but of their father the devil (John 8: 39-47) The things we saw in the old testament were just shadows of the realities we live in now (Hebrews 10:1) The realities are found in Christ (Colossians 2:16-17)

[@888WulfDog888]

God can raise up descendants of Abraham out of stones!

[@elizabethbillingsley5534]

This is amazing information! He hits the nail on the head. Jesus interrupted everything!

[@janetwebb1507]

Lord Jesus Christ brought the NEW COVENANT ..The NEW & EVERLASTING COVENANT.

[@peggystevens9502]

I believe the Bible. Have you read the Bible. It's the go to book for all who call themselves Christians. I believe God and He says this is His land and He gives it to whom He has given it. I hope this is what all Christians no matter where they live or their ethnicity. The history of the Holy land did not begin in the last 500 or even a thousand years. There was no colonialism. The Jews were returned to the land G❤od promised to them. God took the Jews from Egypt into that land. Through their own disobedience, they were exiled out of the land. Archaeology is discovering the truth of this land and it's supporting the biblical narrative. Jerusalem is the city of three religions: Judaism, Christinanity and Islam. If people did not teach their kids to hate one another there could be peace. I now know there will be real peace until the Prince of Peace, Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus Christ) returns. I read the end of the story 😉

[@michealmagagula6701]

So,where does all these place Jonathan Cann and the many books that draws parallels between what is happening in the ‘state of Israel’with the biblical eschatology?The stuff he expounds on is very convincing,at least to the unschooled in the Scriptures.I was almost persuaded until I engaged myself into some serious study.

[@Haliwax88]

Confirmation bias of headline theology mixed with sensationalism. I.e. reading fulfilled Biblical prophecy into things that are happening now, as if our generation is so special.

[@inTruthbyGrace]

Right!! Are you grafted into Jesus bc He is the ONLY vine that matters!!! Psalm 80:8 You brought a vine out of Egypt.You drove out the nations, and planted it. .. John 15:1 Jesus "I am the vine" this was a great discussion.... a very simple google search reveals that the motto of Mossad is. בתחבולות תעשה לך מלחמה no matter how they spin it, plugged in to Google translate= "deceit is essential in warfare"

[@bobbyguzman3058]

Easy answer: no

[@Hello-ig1px]

liar

[@bobbyguzman3058]

@@Hello-ig1px ?

[@Hello-ig1px]

@@bobbyguzman3058 you are a liar

[@shelleythomas1046]

Jewish people ,God bless them, have had 2000 years to receive the gospel just like the rest of mankind, plus Old Testament first hand.

[@shelleythomas1046]

I have learned that the Scofield Study Bible is part of the many pieces of this ideology of Zionism which is really not that old. Thank you Dr. Burge will be praying for you. Your are fighting something huge. God be with you every step.

[@gordonhuskin7337]

read what they say about Christ in the talmud brother

[@melray5001]

And the truth is Talmud is just commentaries and those things always change because the analysis of the Torah changes from year to year & evolves with the faith..Im not sure exactly what you're referring to but as far as I know there's nothing about Christ in there since the talmud references the 1st 5 books of the Torah and even if there was something about jesus which there isnt..it would have been subject to that time it was analyzed..Jesus was a Jew and he was a high priest and the basic tendence of Judaism is completely lost in Christianity which is a religion that was created by jews as well..

[@shelleythomas1046]

@@melray5001 Jesus created christianity not Jews.

[@gordonhuskin7337]

@@melray5001 Lying practitioner of the talmud on display here folks. We all know what it says about Jesus in there, LIAR. It also not only allows lying to gentiles about the talmud, but it demands you lie to them about its contents. Your lies won't work here

[@asitis9402]

I agree ☝🏿

[@eKoush]

in short: NO

[@Alpheccca]

For a comprehensive understanding of Zionism suggest reading: Christian Zionism: Road-map to Armageddon? by Stephen Sizer

[@fabiolahook8877]

RE: world falling apart but "don't worry about it", Jesus did say 'let not your hearts be troubled', wars, rumors of wars, etc.

[@heritageresearchcenter8970]

You mean HELL. No one understands "hades". Yet even a six year old understands "hell".

[@johananswedlund7149]

As doctors in theology please explain to me how all the promises given to Israel are now spiritual and given to the church while the curses are now guven to the Jews. When you finish those theological contortions tell me how the prophecies for Messiah have been fulfilled literally while the ones for istael are all allegories.

[@GeorgeBayer-su9tk]

Here is a start: all of the promises of God find their fulfilment in Christ. 2 Cor 1:20. Those in Christ are co-heirs with Christ Rom 8-17. Those who deny that Jesus is the christ are liars and antichrist 1 John 2:22. Does this help?

[@meecha59]

you are conflating "the jews" with Israel. You are REPLACING Israel with "the jews". Jesus Himself excommunicated the jews from Israel Luke 14 Matthew 21 Revelation 2:9. The curses are covenantal. Paul considers his past in Judaism as animal poop; Paul says he LEFT Judaism Galatians 1:13. Un judaise yourself

[@savedbygrace1578]

Excellent George!

[@johnsomebody1753]

I count myself as a refugee from an Eastern Mystic, guru cult, 39 years ago. During my escape, I reacted vigorously towards, "Christian", then Crusader mentality, which merged completely with Zionist mentality. Learning how to think again. So now I can't understand how, "Christians", and, "Jews" can believe themselves to oppose the, "God" that Jews believe in, who is also supposed to have exiled, "the", Jews, from the land, that's been Occupied by imitation Jews for 75 + years. BUT W O R S E than that, isn't the Messiah, supposed to be preceded by an imitation Messiah, so does that mean those supporting Red Heifer sacrifice are actually devotees of the "Anti-Christ", and does all that seem like a script from a, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", where devotees of a demon, try to summon some entity instead of waiting patiently like they're required to, and lead the world to the edge of destruction ?

[@johnpinckney7269]

Sadly, I would say these gentlemen convey no evidence of struggling with many of the prophets, no sleepless nights trying to imagine Ezeliels temple. Ezel temple is irrelevant to them.

[@emilesturt3377]

Jesus is the third temple

[@nicolaasmalgas8348]

Everything Gary said is correct. Why is it so difficult for Westerners especially white people to get this fact that Israel is an apartheid state? Racism; nothing to do with guilt.

[@777thetruth2]

The “promise,” was CONDITIONAL, and Israel turned their backs on God, over and over and over again, so the covenant went to the Gentiles in 34 ad, when the Jewish Council stoned Steven to death!

[@lynnlosie]

God bless you, Gary!

[@SaMaria1405]

Wish the Christians in the West would stand up for their Christian brethren in the East

[@naayou99]

Question: sons of Abraham, why is Ishmael excluded?

[@granthodges3012]

Calvinists who advocate the replacement of Israel by the Church lack curiosity. I'll prove it. I challenge y'all to read Romans 11 and substitute "The Church" for every reference to Israel as a noun or a pronoun antecedent. You won't do it; because you lack curiosity. Read it and post here if you did it and what you learned.

[@Invaderman440-pn7nb]

I challenge you to justify the name "Israel" that the (mostly) Germans gave their project. You're using a false dichotomy in your query. Start with Theodore Herzl and read Mauschel, Der Judenstaat, and the writings of the other founders. Also worth reading their main holy book, the Zohar.

[@granthodges3012]

@@Invaderman440-pn7nb So I take it you didn't do the Romans 11 challenge?

[@biblicalworldview1]

I struggle with this one. Yes, God gave Abraham the land from the Euphrates to the Mediterranean, and Abraham was the father of both the Jews and the Arabs (Ishmael). However, the promise was through Isaac and then Jacob, and to both, God repeated His promise of the land. Modern Israel exists on less than 1/10 of the land God gave to Abraham. So some of this just doesn't seem to be accurate.

[@westyso.cal.8842]

You know your Bible and you take it literally. Good job. That is likely why you struggle with believing this other narrative.

[@rosemerrynmcmillan1611]

No as Christians we are not obliged to support the political apartheid, fascist State of Israel. In the New Covenant Israel are the people of God who profess Jesus Christ as Lord and thats the Christian nations of the world.

[@roywhite8504]

Matthew 21:42-46 [42] Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: “‘The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? [43] Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. [44] And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.” [45] When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. [46] And although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet.

[@BertGraef]

One of the most powerful verses in the New Testament. A verdict upon the Pharisees, and they knew it. They would be destroyed. The Stone was set to crush them. What the rabbis did after the temple fell and the Stone crushed the Pharisee sect should be of no concern to us. We should not bless such a system, for St John warns that those who do, God will require it. 2 John 7-11

[@Jess-wtf]

Thank you so much for this ! ❤God Bless you

[@John17.24]

I am completely on board what is being said in this video and that understanding has been mine for years. Even so, can someone give me the context of Zechariah 12:1-3 please? I still find that passage difficult to understand.

[@BertGraef]

Not hard at all to understand the prophecy. If you look at it through the gospel of Christ. Instead of that foggy sorcery and kabbalistic deception of 1948. And they do use sorcery. Believe me. They do. Paul knew it well even in his day.

[@BertGraef]

You never justify that religion. Never ever. That religion put its own word above Gods word after the temple fell. They have zero validty in Gods eyes. Why would God honor such a blasphemy against His Holy word and his SON?

[@Over-for-now]

Hagee is wrong because he thinks God is pleased with Israel today. Israel is in darkness temporarily but God has a chosen remnant of Israel THAT God will keep HIS promises and everlasting covenant with

[@Invaderman440-pn7nb]

Yes, Ezekiel 9 describes them and the man in linen's task. Daniel 12, he says how long it takes, and Daniel 7:25-28 shows that it exists up until the time denoted in Daniel 12. The remnant comes from all over the World as Isaiah 11 shows, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Africa, the islands of the sea, etc. Isaiah 11 calls Christ's formation "the second time", and describes the first formation of Israel coming out of Egypt as well. Zechariah 10, Zephaniah 3, Micah 7:15, Isaiah 2, 43, and 60, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 17 and 21, and Revelation 20, show His gathering and Millennial Reign with Satan locked in the pit. He will send His angels to gather His followers from the four compass points, or four winds as Isaiah 43 and Mark 13 show.

[@paulbechtel6437]

Can anyone catch what he says at 23:24? "He says sons Am I right? "He says sons outright?" Thanks

[@mariospontos5096]

There are two extremes to this issue. Here , I see the opposite extreme of dispensationalism. So extreme that even to deny that the gathering of the Jews back to their land is not a fulfillment of prophesy!!! Jesus Himself prophesied it Luka 21:24!

[@Invaderman440-pn7nb]

Yes, at His return. He returns with all the saints of heaven. See also Mark 13, Matthew 24:31-31, Isaiah 2, 11, 35, 43, 60, Zechariah 2 and 10, Amos 9, Ezekiel 37-38 (dwelling without walls, bars, or gates), Revelation 20 (camp of the saints). These passages all show Christians, not Japhetic Europeans pretending to be "Jews" building something before Christ's return. For that one, look at the preceeding passages to the ones that I gave. Also Daniel 7:25-28, Daniel 12, Ezekiel 9. These show that it only exists up until the "time, times, and an half" (teibulation), and is destroyed by the man in linen (sounds like Michael), and 5 earthly leaders. Christ's 2nd formation of Israel is the only one in Scripture, after the first one which was the coming out of Egypt. Isaiah 11 details both, both with a parting of the Red Sea.

[@meecha59]

When YOU see Jerusalem surrounded by armies???? sounds like 70AD. who is the YOU in Luke 21? Its not you and me is it. Jesus is talking to the disciples ...not you. Did the Roman armies surround Jerusalem? YES. Did you? NO? Whats the times of the Gentiles? Try Daniel 2? Babylon,Assyria, Greece, Rome......then the Kingdom of God. Jesus ascended. He is King. The Kingdom has come. The times of the gentiles ended when Rome fell.

[@mariospontos5096]

@@meecha59 Rome fell after centuries Jesus was ascended. And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. When the times of the Gentiles are fulfill Jerusalem will be not trampled by Gentiles and the Jews will not be captive in all nations. When Rome Jerusalem was still trampled by Gentiles.

[@RotuaRatnawati]

People share their EXPERT Line of Covenant is God adopted them as His covenant with limited time ?? Or everlasting ? My Grandpa favorit preacher and Bible study was Chuck Missler and Derek Prince both of them becomes my favorit too.