A71 Okay, so one more foundation layer before the big superstructure layups. Arete Supercar project.

[@Splitfinger709]

Get the engine running, you might have to make modifications to the engine bay. And if you had it painted, you'd have to paint again.

[@THESLlCK]

True

[@beobe99]

My first thought as well! You want all engine work done prior to painting, nothing worse than having to be extra careful around fresh paint.

[@ervinrivera5285]

Run the engine first and then paint. Keep up the good work.

[@cybertree]

I agree with 90% of the comments that engine first is *smarter* , but I'm with the creator on this one, motivation is important. I just finished resto-modding my 1969 bronco, and I made the "hasty" decision to paint it baby blue with white accents before the new transmission was even in, and it *supercharged* my passion for the project. Before I painted it, I was sort of in the mindset of just getting it done decently and quickly so I could drive it. But seeing it as the beauty it was to become, I really started to put my heart and soul into it. I even color matched most of the hardware and brakes and interior pieces. Although I had to be extra careful and use a blanket to work on the engine bay, the feeling I got seeing it first thing in the morning far outweighed that small nuisance, and I think that transferred to the project. You can always fix a scratch!

[@adderson400]

I think you should get the engine running. I love your project keep it up..

[@user-fl1jv9cv7z]

Yeah its definitely got me like wow and I wish i could

[@JamesCairney]

You could give the bodywork a coat of primer, that way people can see the car in something other than bare fibreglass and you don't need to worry about scratching a nice paint job, because you won't have done one yet, good compromise, I'd say. (And "bridging solution" sounds better than slurry, although it's not quite a bridging solution, but shsh, nevermind that)

[@noanyobiseniss7462]

Thats what we used to do but i think these days primers are not supposed to sit before base/clear but i'm sure someone more knowledgeable on the matter will chime in.

[@davidlarsson4198]

You're truly inspiring with all the knowledge you seem to have :). With that said, I would like to see longer videos overall. I don't know about what others think but I would totally rather have one video every other week that is a bit longer and shows more progress instead of short ones every week. It feels like the fun kind of only gets started in every episode before it ends. Keep up the inspiring work you're doing.

[@BuilderCreator]

Noted! sometimes I worry about boring people with endless stretches of the brush going back and forth. Perhaps a comedy routine whilst I work?

[@davidlarsson4198]

@@BuilderCreator hehe that would be great also, but I mean you can still skip the repetitive parts, but would love to see more content in the episodes, maybe wait yet another week before publishing a video (two weeks apart) and you'll have more to show I mean. With that said, I will still hang around to watch your videos, I'm just saying I want MORE! :)

[@paulbull3765]

When you fire it up for the first time, and hear it whisper “drive me” ……..all the other tasks, will feel as exciting as a first date. 👍🏻 Fantastic project my friend, I bet you dream of sharing the exhilarating experience of driving with friends and family when it is complete.

[@BuilderCreator]

I'll be glad when it just rolls without skates underneath. Ha!

[@fredrikhumlehagen9903]

Probably smartest to finalize the mechanical build before paint, but it’s the body stuff I’m most eager to see.

[@DavidGuyton]

How about something between the engine and the paint.....those custom hinges you are building! I am excited to see how those will work.

[@MisFakapek]

I agree with David - that sounds like something functional and pretty

[@bobdavis3389]

Me Too ! Thinking about those doors too .

[@ekim000]

The car is looking epic. As much as I'd love to see it painted up and pretty if it were my decision I'd sort the mechanicals first. There are bound to be issues or little accidents and buggering up a mirror smooth panel is soul crushing.

[@j.m3457]

Every other youtuber does them engines. Your bodywork magic is the essence of this channel. So it's a no brainer; do the body.

[@DLR-gz6tv]

I've been watching and admiring the progress of this project, you may say living vicariously through these videos of the things I wish I could do. That said... a coat of paint would really be a motivator!! I say Paint!. I'll be waiting..... Thanks!!

[@cewood]

Would be great to hear the engine running

[@Donald.W.Rissler-ARTS]

I think your at a crossroad where impatience could cost you alot of lost time in the future. My personal experience building showcars has proven that I have made this mistake tooo many times. I look forward to seeing what choices you make, but here is my 2cents>>> Get the chassis and running gear worked out before any final aesthetic choices, then finalize the engine and its cooling/lube systems. Then finish exterior panel mechanicals such as hinges and fasteners followed by mocking up the interior and fixing major panel gaps...... Now you get to put primer sealers etc before drive testing. Only when you finally get an OK on the shakedown do you jump into the aesthetic pool of finishing the project.

[@chariotrider4656]

Do what you want most! I'm enjoying your journey of creation!

[@andywaugh4165]

I get the inspirational power of a peak at its potential with some paint,doing only mundane necessities can be bit of a drag,it’s a friggin big job mate ,what ever is good for you!

[@kroderi]

Just here for the ride, enjoying the content and do what you want , we will be here along the way.

[@gerardorosario9013]

Love what you are doing with your supercar

[@teemuhokkanen7509]

Engine running first. After painting you have to start being more careful to not harm it

[@spiritzweispirit1st638]

Smart Thinking!💪🤖👍

[@thebirdhasbeencharged]

This is my goto now that Project Binky is a few episodes away from ending. Love it.

[@BuilderCreator]

Now if I could just get a partner and a dry British sense of humor, I could take a large group of their following. Ha!

[@thatmiata_guy]

Definitely get the engine running. Can’t wait to hear it run after seeing it in person a few months back! Great content as always Jay. Looking forward to hearing it run!

[@BuilderCreator]

I will let you know the day and you can keep your windows open that night and hear it growl from across the valley! ;)

[@oikkuoek]

First the basic bodywork, then clean the shop. Then all the electricals, interior, doors, running gear, brakes, steering. Then clean the shop again. Then finalize the engine, test drive, tweaks, suspension, allignment, more testing. After a couple of inevitable fires and fixing those firehazards, you are ready for final disassembly and paint.

[@BuilderCreator]

At least the fires shouldn't spread after all the shop clean up! Ha!

[@Harikarikillboy-fs5vl]

I went back to the first episode and started watching from there…after I watched this one. (I’ll be seeing every one of em for sure) the power plant you chose is gonna make that car a rocket!

[@daveffs1935]

I'd advise you to finish the enginerding before you start tarting it up. Never know where you're going to need to drill a hole or trim a bit to fit.

[@wskroll]

It's an incredible build! I've really enjoyed watching the epic progress of one determined and very talented man. We're all looking forward to the finished coachwork BUT it is time to finish the running gear. Bring that baby to life!

[@billybowbob2071]

I like the translucent appearance as it really helps to see the amount to work and the process that goes into this build. Paint or primer will make things seem too complete and take away from the actual build attention I think. Seeing the engine run will be inspiring and provide additional motivation for you and the viewers continuing attention

[@bumfie]

Always look forward to these updates .. Thanks again great work . focus on the engine so that you know everything has enough room when its running then finish off with the body

[@scottwhitten5089]

This is an incredible project. I appreciate the want to see it in paint. However, I believe that bringing the machine to life mechanically brings you closer to completion without fear of damaging finished surfaces.

[@DraGma]

Great progress! Paint the beauty first and the rest of the project will be a breeze!

[@THESLlCK]

paint comes later, the engine needs to be in place first

[@myopinion69420]

nice work. I think working on the engine/driveline is probably the best choice, get that all finalised and working, last thing you want to do is get into a 'finshed' state, just to realise you have overlooked something on the mechanicleside and have to start cutting/modifiying the shell.

[@davntelisha19]

Dam man you have a lot of hours in that car im just surprised how you find the energy man at your age too not to insult you but your very inspiring to me man you have done it and I love your channel you show us whats good and whats not ive learn a little by watching you thank you keep up the great work man stay bless

[@BuilderCreator]

A lot of hours, Yes! But, when you are young and have small children that time gets devoted to them and the family. It's us "older" guys that can devote more time to projects and business! Thanks for following the build.

[@samlindberg6931]

Projects like this never end. There is always something else left to do or add too. 😓😀

[@93terranossa20]

Eu sou brasileiro, e acho muito top o seu trabalho, nao perco um video seu

[@BuilderCreator]

Obrigada. Fico feliz em tê-lo conosco nesta jornada.

[@LUCASxBlackMechx]

Nice to see more fellow brasileiros here

[@bakerrv]

Looks like a dream coming to life! Paint or running engine, hard decision. Kinda like what came first the cart or the horse, I'm thinking the horse, lets here that engine running!!! Cheers Jay!

[@criticalmass181]

I reckon you'd be best off getting to undercoat, then start on the engine. You'll get to see a change but not so much that you'll cry if you need to modify anything. Up to you, though. We're but an audience. If it were mine, i'd want to see the real shape, without the opacity.

[@lvn968]

Car is becoming indestructible ! You better choose what your preference has: if you're comfortable with it, it will be benefiting for the process

[@jeffreymills2738]

First time I’ve commented on here - but I’ve watched all your videos. I say let’s get the mechanics working! I love the chassis work, but I wanna hear the 1J running! Also thanks for the quick reply to my email a week or so ago, my buddy and I started our own 1J adventure this weekend, so excited!

[@BuilderCreator]

Alright! this weekend was the day!!!

[@JoelKSLC]

Always appreciate your videos, well done! I’ve been using microspheres and resin on one of my projects and it’s worked very well. As far as what to focus on next, I vote to get the mechanicals running then focus on finishing the body.

[@sergiopereira1696]

yes, Jarvie. great job. congratulation.

[@viz_2847]

I really would love to see the engine running. 👍

[@pauloluciano1358]

Esse projeto é simplesmente incrível

[@jondolfen7044]

IMHO, I'd finish the structural bodywork and then shift to getting it to a rolling runner. Paint and bodywork may be compromised as you work through the mechanicals and its easiest to make changes prior to paint. As a compromise, you could switch it up on the interior and focus on this for the "pretty part" while you work on the mechanicals.

[@deeplato5647]

*GREAT EPISODE* Maybe a Tag Team... If you have a buddy that can work on engines, that effort does not seem to require the designer builder knowledge to progress on body and paint. Maybe some of it in parallel.

[@frenchcannuck]

Personally I would do the paint at the end just in case it gets damaged while doing other stuff on the car. Great work as always, can’t wait for the next video.

[@direktoraizen5456]

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, I BELIEVE IN YOU

[@mikeleonard8031]

I learned a lot about fibreglass and I thank you for that but I think everybody is waiting for the start up of the engine which is nothing new but it is dragging out too long now. Thanks for a great build.

[@generally_good_guy]

I would love to see some paint on it. Thanks for another good video.

[@spiritzweispirit1st638]

🇺🇸So Very Inspirational and Meditative!💪🙂👍

[@emanekaf4107]

epic project!!!!!!!!! Im not sure what comes first, the egg or the chicken.... but i got a man crush on you, wooowoooooo, lol amazing work!!!!

[@chrisrawle2967]

Getting running. You may find some issues on test drives that you need to resolve before paint

[@corporalclegg914]

I’ve been patiently waiting to hear your exhaust!! quite patient

[@BuilderCreator]

Yeah! I had better get on that before the raging fans become just RAGING! Ha!

[@corporalclegg914]

@@BuilderCreator - I’ll bet it’s going to sound amazing. that was one of my favorite things to see come together in this project. I think it will purr, then roar when prodded.

[@huzeff]

A car should be a machine moving under its own power primarily and just then a work of art, I definitely suggest to work on the mechanical side first and leave the paint job for the end. As an icing on the cake... Also, as many mentioned before - working on the power-train and suspension can cause (intentional of accidental) "modifications" to the body...

[@KyberJedi]

I would love to see a shade of color on the car as well, but if it were me, I would worry about messing it up, scratching or damaging the paint while still wrapping up all the other bits and bobs. So, as much as I would love to see color, I would say wrap up the mechanics and perhaps move towards a sort of interior design. That's just my two cents. Love the content on both the Arete and Leviathan. It looks like so much hard work but I completely look forward to all your updates and videos. Best of luck to you.

[@christopheouvrard8548]

+1

[@billmeldrum2509]

I think it’s more practical to get the engine up and running before paint. This advice assumes that there may yet be tweaks to the body around the engine compartment. Just my opinion. 🇨🇦

[@maximiliambrostrom158]

I would like to see that paint you talked about! Get the artist in you going! Keep up the good work!

[@zipgunII]

II would wait on paint and get the mechanical stuff working. Reason being, you might run into issues with the design (clearances, fitment, airflow, cooling, etc.) which, if you did start doing paint/finishing, would require you to take another step back and make structural changes, which of course would require you to redo the paint and finishing again.

[@sfcoawol6273]

as someone that does bodywork and has done restorations the paintjob should be the very last thing you do, you would be surprised at how many ways you can damage a new paintjob

[@larrysorenson4789]

Ok. The gallery says mechanical. How about a compromise? Bonding primer tinted red, yellow or dark gray and full mechanical completion to a running and rolling chassis? 😃👍

[@TT.357]

I noticed the lack of room between the trans tunnel and the door and was wondering if you had seats picked out. If not, my best suggestion is the Recaro seats from an Evo 9. They are a slightly prevalent seat swap for the C5 corvette, which has a notoriously narrow seating area. They’re leather with an alcantara/microsuede center section, and they are well bucketed, but comfortable. They also have harness slots from the factory, and being stock seats, they can recline, and they’re crash tested. Final point is that they’re Recaro seats, which are very nice, but these aren’t super expensive. Just my thoughts.

[@BuilderCreator]

The seats will be built in as part of the structure; at least the lower lumbar section. The upper (thoracic)area will hinge to allow access to storage, engine management electronics and heat/AC ducting. Pedals and steering wheel will adjust for driver changes.

[@DoughnutBoardingBros]

Love the progress! Keep it up!

[@BuilderCreator]

How is life? Got that new garage set up with printers?

[@DoughnutBoardingBros]

Life is good! Garage is for cars. I made a maker space in one of the bedrooms though! Offer still stands if you need anything printed in plastic, resin, or metal :)

[@BuilderCreator]

@@DoughnutBoardingBros May take you up on that! Little side job needs a good high resolution resin printer! (and capable hands operating it!)

[@Jmdeclue]

I am with you on getting to paint, the body is the work of art. The engine would be great but who hasn’t seen an engine build? The body is the one-off main attraction as far as I am concerned. I also know I will probably be in the minority. 🤷‍♂️

[@Stoneface_Garage]

Jay, I say get it to primer to protect your work so far. Then get mechanical full function done. That way you can road test the vehicle with at least some protection on the fiberglass fabrications - dirt, wet, UV.etc

[@thecalipercnc2800]

Yes make it run because i feel the inside of the car is little small so maybe you will need to re do something before you paint Amazing job and i wish to see this project completed and running soon

[@FergusPol]

I think you need to finish the structure and get the doors to latch. Add the glazing and mock up all the interior architecture, pedal box, ip, wheel and seats to check entry/stress and basic user ergonomics from the driving position.

[@pw443]

have you thought about running some carbon fiber tow from left to right in order to decrease the the torsion in the center of the chassis

[@BuilderCreator]

Next step is to put in a lot of unidirectional fiber at a 45deg. across the floor and underside for torsion stiffness. Should be a video in the next few weeks.

[@Teritius]

Put it on its wheels first. The rolling chassis, then the motor, and do the paint last just in case the intake system or an unforeseen situation requires you to change the bodywork.

[@noanyobiseniss7462]

Actually I'd paint it after all the road testing incase you end up taking out a pole! :D

[@matthewchamberlain2464]

As much as I would love to see it become pretty as soon as possible, I am also opposed to rework, and doing work on a finished surface presents the risk for rework. I don't know how much detail you are going to do in the engine bay, but If you are painting at all inside the engine bay, I would definitely do that before I did engine work, just to avoid interference issues. If it were me, I would paint the inside of the engine bay and cab, do engine work and cab work (seats, upholstry, etc), then exterior paint. and final fit, trim, and detail work.

[@Dmitro_KAVO]

Today is a day))) love from Russia!

[@berthelmantel5043]

Run baby, run!

[@psibitful2]

That new paint might look great, but imagine what you'll need to keep it pristine as you tackle the engine

[@mycool8980]

I'd love to say get it closer to paint but getting it running may change the form for function ya know. Sooo yea go for paint you can always cut it up later n redo stuff lol.

[@lowellgutknecht6234]

Maybe I am thinking to far ahead but where do the cupholders go?

[@respectall4551]

I miss " today is the day" 😁

[@guillo88]

body!! progress on the bodyyy!

[@GotMilkRS13]

I’d try to get it to run and drive before paint, because if flaws show up during the process of getting it running you can make changes to the structure without having to paint the car again. Once it’s running and driving properly I’d disassemble it and get it painted

[@justar6865]

Great vids

[@andrewkazanova5751]

when the day of days you make this beauty care make a ride

[@davidorbell5803]

i would like to see it as a rolling chassis ready to test drive

[@abdush-shakoorabrahams4326]

definitely let the engine start running,not that my opinion matters but i just think it would be a privilege to listen to that 2jz start up and idle with the whole mechanical and technological differences.

[@aanshusingh8618]

really excited to see it running @your instagram follower!!

[@michaelmoore1403]

Get the body fab all sorted the mechanical stuff can wait.

[@MAXXY2148]

Will it have cup holders

[@christopherleveck6835]

Looking back at older videos, still trying to catch up because I just found your channel not too long ago. I'm building my own car as well and I'm curious why you aren't using any carbon or kevlar? I plan to use all three as I'm familiar with most of the strengths and weaknesses of each material having built high performance (read strong and light) rc sailplanes for almost 40 years.... (holy crap how old am i?)

[@SteveDave]

He did a whole video explaining why a month back i think Edit: titled "is carbon fiber worth it?" 2 months ago

[@christopherleveck6835]

@@SteveDave fair enough. I didn't look hard enough. Thanks. I'll get caught up before I ask anymore dumb questions....

[@BuilderCreator]

40 years? didn't RC controls have tubes and rheostats as the electronics back then. Ha! ;) Thanks for watching- ther are no dumb questions.

[@alessiocarlevaro6934]

did you make the hinge for the rear cover already? i was interested in seeing how you would do it but i didn't see it in the previous videos i binge watched

[@BuilderCreator]

Still in the works. Just need to do some casting to produce the two main sections.

[@wesgyver]

Get the engine running first. Paint will be exciting, but working over the fresh paint is way more stressful. It looks great by the way!

[@limitlessbuilds]

I’m partial to getting it fully functional before paint. Don’t want to do that twice if you need to make changes

[@dave5833]

Thanks for the Video!!:)))) have you kept track of the hours in your build??

[@BuilderCreator]

Keeping track . . . ."I'm up to "a lot of hours" now, with only a few thousand to go. ;)

[@georgeplaxton3067]

Did hot exhausts and fuel lines come into the equation

[@LuvMyGT500]

Personally, I think a running/driving car is more important that it’s cosmetics, not to mention you don’t want to potentially damage the finish while wenching on it after it’s painted.

[@aaronmayon1990]

A bit of both maybe engine one week and structure the next. Keeps everyone happy

[@christopherleveck6835]

Have you ever used a hot wire foam cutter?

[@BuilderCreator]

I have a hot wire, but this urethane foam creates toxic smoke and enough people complain that I'm already minimalist on personal protection. Ha!

[@ioiwut4874]

i honestly don't know which way i'd wanna see the project go. paint, engine, idc if you just wanna install 12 cup holders lol. joking aside i really can't choose which [of the two] i wanna see most.

[@playdav485]

hi i think the focus should be to make sure it runs and drives before finishing the design just incase there is something that needs to be changed

[@Bultish]

how come cut out foamcore to then fill with foam? Did i miss something there? thanks

[@BuilderCreator]

We had to get a fiberglass matrix connecting the two sides together. Now we have two skins with a webbing between. Sorry, sometimes I get caught up in telling you what I am doing rather than why I am doing it.

[@charlieg9559]

I would absolutely finish the tub and body 100% before moving on to mechanicals.

[@bobdavis3389]

Definitly get it running and driving before paint !!

[@ThePreverbial]

You should defo get the mechanics all sorted, ideally to the point you can drive the car around, you never know what body mods will be needed until you get to that point. One problem with many super cars is, they are crampt and often angles the occupants.. It looks like you might struggle with these problems too. Great project but if you were doing it again, I think you should consider making the whole thing wider.

[@BuilderCreator]

If I were doing it again I wouldn't make it wider, I would take the money and buy a little vacation home in Maui. Ha!

[@ThePreverbial]

@@BuilderCreator But then you would be sat in your vacation home, whiling away the hours thinking, I wish I was busy building something in my workshop🤔😁

[@markscully2342]

how much does the tub weigh it looks to be extremely rigid?

[@BuilderCreator]

Will do an official weight soon, but it feels like 130 lbs or so at present.

[@SteveBueche1027]

Get the mechanicals running. You need them dialed in. Check for body flexes and what not. This the body can be tweaked before it’s too polished.

[@DeeperImageAutomotive]

My vote goes to the engine running, but I won't complain if you chose to go for paint lol.

[@bradmaas6875]

My first thought was paint, but then I considered any changes would require more paint. Since the engine hasn't run yet, but it should be fine, if it's not fine then more changes may be required. Get it running, final answer.